You. RFN, 2014
High time we put the last years' thread to bed and started one for THIS year!
But the year has just star... Hey, who the hell stole January? :eek:
My wife took this shot of me last week. We were at a hotel near Istanbul on the Marmara Sea and I was shooting the sunset.
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i wanna be chrisinhouston when i grow up
except i wanna be jimincolorado or jiminkeywest depending on the season
Ohhhh......you look great! And that's a really nice hat, impressed!
Beautiful, Chris.
And Limey, or should I say agent 007½, stepping off the Orient Express is a swirl of mist and fog... glamorous. :thumb:
My wife took this shot of me last week. We were at a hotel near Istanbul on the Marmara Sea and I was shooting the sunset.
You know...your life is way, way more interesting than...well...almost anyone's.
Ohhhh......you look great! And that's a really nice hat, impressed!
Seriously nice job!
i wanna be chrisinhouston when i grow up...
Nope. He leaves the country too much. I ain't leaving the country. He do take some wonderful photos, though.
I want to be Ed Hochuli.
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Limey, you are gorgeous! I love the hat, but I love your style and sass even more!
Thanks everyone. Ortho -the sass goes all through me, but the style stopped at the neck. Sloppy joe and jeans most days!
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Limey, I love the hat & the devilish look. You are a woman of mystery.
Chris, I love your exotic travels and photos. I'm green with envy
The benefit of going into and out of the wilds of South London (for Uncle Ted's funeral) is that the trains and the Tubes are empty.
Hi Sundae! I like these pictures. You look good, and the settings are great!
PRETTY! !!
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The benefit of going into and out of the wilds of South London (for Uncle Ted's funeral) is that the trains and the Tubes are empty.
I don't understand. Are they empty because no one goes to South London because of high crime or something?
:lol:
Could be, could be!
No, it's because of the time of day and the time of year.
The Tube carries tourists in central London pretty much all year round and round the clock. But less in January and very much less the further you come out and therefore the emptier the Tube gets.
I know, I lived between Walthamstow (Victoria line) and Leyton (Central line) for years. And worked in North Acton - the other end of the Central line.
Cherry gets to sit down. Train fills up. Repeat as necessary.
Train empties out. See previous.
Cherry gets out and everyone else getting out is going to the same place.
Same in reverse except everyone else has already left the train and isn't coming to my house.
Elephant and Castle is the terminus of the Bakerloo line South.
And we were heading South at about 11.00, and coming back at about 15.00. Not working hours.
ETA we were moving very slowly because of Dads.
In the Tube photo, we were first on the train simply because everyone else had jumped on the previous one. He had one of his "turns" at the top of the stairs. We were not going to rush. And being the terminus, we ended up with about six minutes to spare before we departed. Hence my posing.
And in the escalator photo we were behind everyone else coming off the train. Same reason.
MTP you look as beautiful as always.
at about 11.00, and coming back at about 15.00. Not working hours.
11 & 15...Isn't that 11am, & 3pm? That sounds like prime working hours...I'm confused (and easily so).
I think she means "not rush hour."
:blush: Yes, thank you.
I originally wrote something about commuter hours, then changed it without checking for sense.
Indeed they are prime working hours. So all the little workers are safely tucked away working, rather than on the Tube
sundae and mtp on the same page. that made my day
Since Sundae asked for pictures (that's my excuse)....
Happy New Year!!
Beautiful, Lola! Sarge may just explode!
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Ha Cha Cha !!!!!
Verry Nice Lola !!!
Hi Lola
Looking good! Are you in Viet Nam RFN?
Hi Lola
Looking good! Are you in Viet Nam RFN?
Thanks. What makes you think I'm in Vietnam from looking at that picture? I'm curious to know. RFN I'm in Texas. And yes, Vietnamese Americans still wear traditional long dress on special occassions. Today is Vietnamese New Year so I wore it to go to temple.
Happy Chinese New Year! Agnes is soooo excited for Year of The Horse.
...What makes you think I'm in Vietnam from looking at that picture?
I've thought about this reply for a while now. Not because I don't quickly see the features that seem out of place for that region but that I don't want to be insulting or critical. You're a pretty gal and you look great in both of the photos.
Here are the items that look very similar to what I'd see here in the Philippines. In some cases at the house that I'm living at the moment.
The concrete block house instead of wood, tiny plastic chairs, trees very close to the house instead of at the perimeter, cement blocks used as a wall to rest plants on, concrete flooring is different shade as if it were cast in stages instead of from the same batch of concrete ( from a mixer ) and plastic milk carts and bins.
Much the same as seen here. And, may be very common there in Texas too.
I'm sorry if my question seemed rude. :blush:
I didn't mean to come off defensive. I was really curious. The first thing that came to mind when you asked if I'm currently in Vietnam is that my place must look ghetto. I asked my sister if it looks ghetto and she said no, so I wondered what was it that made you make that question comment.
First of all, I live in an apartment complex, not a house. That's why the wall is concrete. Also, that's why the trees and plants are in front of the home too. This complex is old, so part of the concrete in front of the home has sunk. When it rains a lot, there would be a large puddle in front. Therefore, new concrete has been poured so that water would run away and not settle and perhaps run back and flood into the apartment. As for the small chairs, the front of the apartment is narrow. You see that window? About 2 feet more to the left and we're into the neighbor's side, and one foot to the right is the front door, as you can see. Also, we don't want big chairs to cover the window so when I open the windows they may block the wind from coming in. And as a confession, someone threw those chairs out and my mom dragged them home. So, I didn't really choose small chairs on purpose. As for the cinder blocks used to rest the potted plants on, I don't know why my mom did that. She elevated most of the potted plants in front our the apartment. For some, I think she wants to give the pots space to drain rather than laying them on the ground. Over time, those places on the ground become dark from water stain? :shrug: I don't ask my mom about her actions because she often would feel that I question her intelligence and get defensive. Although we've been in the States for almost 39 years, my mom is still very conservative and "Vietnamese." We still use celsius rather than fahrenheit. We use both solar and lunar calendar. Although my mom would sometimes use the American measuring system, she still refer to the metric system. And for the milk cartons, etc., that's my mom. She does stuffs like that, which I don't understand. :sigh: When I try to buy, say watering can and such, she calls me wasteful. So I let her do whatever she pleases.
Okay, so there you have it. :D Now, I gotta go beautify myself and go out to have some fun. It's still New Year, and we still celebrate it for 3 days as if we're still in Vietnam. :celebrate:
By the way, I don't think your question was rude, so no worries.
Ok Lola, tell the truth! You are 16 years old. You don't look a day older. I think your long dresses are beautiful, but can't you slip in a few bikini shots please? Pretty please with sugar on it?
Wow, this year is off to a great start. Secret Agent Limey shots. Cute MTP and her puppy. Sundae in a beautiful black dress sporting a hot figure. Now we have Lola. I think I'm hyperventilating
Since Sundae asked for pictures (that's my excuse)....
Happy New Year!!
Dayum woman!
That white dress is
working!
:heartpump
Cousins came over. Played adult version of board game. We finished 7 bottles and half a bottle of rum in the sangria.
I am buzzzzzed!
Ok Lola, tell the truth! You are 16 years old. You don't look a day older. I think your long dresses are beautiful, but can't you slip in a few bikini shots please? Pretty please with sugar on it?
I may think about it if I do even wear a bikini. But since I don't, sorry :-P
Pics of you without the bikini are OK too!
Ha....I don't do birthdays either. :-P
Me this morning! I'm thinking of growing my hair out but I already want to cut it.
Your short hair looks cute.
MTP: Once you've got your hair really short, it's hard to grow it out. Took me years to finally grow my hair down to my shoulders. Anyways, it's still too cold to cut your hair that short! Brrrr....but then again, there are lots of nice hats and scarves out there. :D
This was this afternoon. The rear windows of our Prizm are all seized in place, so I took the door apart and greased up these gears on the hand crank and lubed the window tracks and regulator arm pulley in its track.
I stuck the camera in the door to see what was in there, and look! There I am!

Did you find Prisoner Zero?
Did you find Prisoner Zero?
Hahahahahaha. Excellent.
Took me a moment.
Me, last night after dinner. The car had been brushed clean before leaving the house, all you see accumulated during dinner.
Picture by Twil.
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I made a hat too. Hatscarf. Scarfhat. Or something. I made it.
I suspect I need someone to give me a line on photo editing apps that will resize things easily ...
Hehehe....scarfhat looks nice...you look skeery. :-X
I love these self made hats and scarves. Way to go, wolf and limey!
Me, last night after dinner. The car had been brushed clean before leaving the house, all you see accumulated during dinner.
Picture by Twil.
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You gots a swoosh on yer bubblegoose!
I like the colors on the scarfhat.
Hahaha, I seen Glatt's brown eye.
Gosh V, I forget between the looooong gaps between photos what a stud you are.
And Wolf - you look wonderful, but do you really wear the scarf that long?
I imagine you bundle your head up in it more, given the ridiculous temperatures you're living through right now. Mad yarn skills though.
Enough. I'm getting sick of this snow.

That's right, let Polar Vortex know you're cross... maybe lift one eyebrow a tad, just one. ;)
Carruthers and me, earlier today.
Oh, that's awesome. Good to see you both.
Hiya glatt. sorry about ur weather.
Hiya Sundae! Hiya Carruthers! so nice so see such happy smiling faces. Watch out for glatt, he's sick.
Carruthers and me, earlier today.
Aw that's obviously fake. Two Brits with straight, pearly white teeth? :haha:
Pics and it did happen! Nice.
I've been really having fun with some of my editing software. I mainly use Adobe Lightroom for initial non destructive editing. But I recently got some new programs. One is by OnOne Software called Perfect Effects 8 and the other is by Topaz and called Simplify.
So I took this portrait my wife took of me awhile back as we waited to board a plane. You can see we were at gate B1 in some terminal. Anyway, the metadata says it was taken at 1/15 of a second so I am surprised it had any sharpness. But my wife likes the shot and asked me to make it into a portrait for her to have. I used Lightroom to turn it to B&W and played with some masking and vignetting to get the background to go down to black and did some burning and dodging just like in the darkroom days. I saved a few versions. Then I took it into the Simplify program which has all kinds of artistic effects like watercolors, painting and pencil sketching filters. So here is that version.
I kind of think it has a Karsh like feel to it. I think I am in my Hemmingway phase of life.
Oh man, I can tell that canary's a goner. :lol2:
Love the hat.
Oh man, I can tell that canary's a goner.
I feel like I oughta get that, but, I don't.
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Nice pic, and effects, Chris, as always.
I need to work on the floating head thing, I'm still experimenting with the masking tools and the vignette tool.
Aww....Glatt, you must be really unhappy. Your usual smile has turned upside down.
Sundae & Carruthers: Great to see youse!
Christ: Nice!
Mum, Dad and me out for a curry last night.
Nothing like a curry to warm you up on a cool night!
Haircut... haircut...
(playground chant, usually when a boy has a savage new cut imposed by Mum)
But yeah, new cut, slightly amended colour/s.
Splendid job!
Both cut and colour suit you Sundae.:thumb:
Sundae, you look gorgeous. Proper bonny, that style.
Lovely, Sundae!
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Speaking for 'Merica, you look great as always Sundae!
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Blackbeard, Bluebeard, and Yellowbeard's younger, less famous brother, Halfbeard.
Sundae: You look good in any haircut, girl.
Grav: erm.....uh.....Got bored shaving midway? :p:
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How did your other half a beard grow back so fast? Did you rub fish assholes on it?
Looks like a nice location.
Some nice pics here. :) Chris, I like the third one the best. Sundae, I love the colour and cut of your hair. Looks great. Grav...what can I say. You have a nice car. hahaha
Check out the Products You Never Knew Existed thread.
Fish assholes?
Check out the Products You Never Knew Existed thread.
Yes, that was the reference. I thought grav would pick up on that. Still no explanation for The Amazing Fastbeard. Does facial hair grow that fast? Could be, I wouldn't know. ;)
That's a month of beard in that last pic.
I have little girl beard.

Me, dad, brother. Sunday at my sisters house
Oh CRAP The Helm Clan is back togather !!!!!! ;)
Looking pretty sharp Jim! So is your brother (just quietly). Your Dad looks like an old softy. :)
Oh CRAP The Helm Clan is back togather !!!!!! ;)
Yeah, man. It was really good to hang with pop for a couple days.
Great pix. Y'all look so happy.
Your Dad looks like Stephen King would've looked like if he hadnt fallen out of the ugly tree.
Dad does resemble Stephen King.
How old are Dad & Bro?
73&37
A palindrome
Dad used to be a dead ringer for Nick Nolte. That picture doesn't really convey his look accurately. He's still solid and strong at 73. Just started talking about selling his Harley. My family gets old. I hope to have him around for a good while yet.
I hope you do too, jim. My dad is 75...will be 76 this year on my birthday (yes my birthday...we share a birthday.) He's very vital, can't sit still for 5 minutes...he's more active than I am. He's great.
Your brother is almost as handsome as you. :)
A photographer came to the firm last week to do portraits for the phone list.
Here's my old portrait, taken by an HR intern with an old digital camera maybe 10-15 years ago.
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And here's the new one, taken by a pro.
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I hadn't had a real portrait taken since high school, I think, so I contacted HR to see if I could get a high resolution copy of the image, and they gave me the photographer's email.
I shot him a friendly email asking his prices, and he said that for $50, I can have a 1350x1800 jpg for my personal use.
How offensive would it be if I tried to talk him down? It would be nice to have a high res version of the portrait, but $50 is about five times too much, IMHO.
I'm assuming he got paid a fair rate to come to the firm and set up his stuff and take all these employee pictures for the phone directory. There was no attempt made to sell us prints as we were getting the pictures taken, so I don't think prints were ever meant to be part of the income stream. I know he's a professional, but my kids' school pictures are similar and cost around $40 for all the prints you would ever want. And he wants $50 to locate the file, attach it to the email and send it to me. No prints at all.
Opinions, please. Foot, I'd be especially curious for your opinion.
Do I politely decline, or do I counter offer?
I guess that he wants to get rich today.
I've talked to Rich, he's completely hetero.
His price makes it seem that he's deliberately discouraging individual requests. He knows this is just a whim; because, it's not a portrait of you in a business suit and he's probably not set up to handle whims proficiently. He's giving up any future revenue on the image (maybe you'll become famous/infamous someday); so, if you simply must have it, ask him if he offers a corporate discount and hope he takes the hint. Maybe he'll take pity (if business is slow).
I've talked to Rich, he's completely hetero.
I don't think this guy is hetero. His mannerisms were a bit gay, and I think he was flirting with me a little.
As he was snapping a few pics of me, he said I should be an actor. And then he clarified that I should be a character actor. And in his email reply today he said he remembered me and hoped I wasn't offended when he complimented me. Maybe I looked offended. I don't think so though. I was just grinning for the camera.
Maybe he tells everyone they should be character actors. :lol.
Anyway, I suppose I should reply to him. I like the corporate discount idea.
You don't think you can duplicate that portrait?
You need a diffuse light source, a camera, and a tripod. Keep your fifty bucks.
$50. isn't that much, really. Sure there's his time finding the file, but there's also the fact that the picture looks 10^9 times better than a selfie. He has to buy gear, now more than ever since cameras don't last 50 years any more. (side note: my buddy's Canon 5D just shit the bed, some chip/sensor related nonsense and to fix it would be almost as much as a new camera ~3,000) In the case of film, I have 70 year old cameras that take perfectly fine photos) Then there's all the frigging softwares, updates, computers and all that other crap that also constantly needs to be replaced (Unlike my 1952 Omega enlarger which still makes excellent prints)
And once he gives you a high res image, that's it. You can copy the shit out of it and print off a trillion copies and give them to every body you ever saw and he won't see another dime from you. Essentially, he is selling you the negative for $50.
But as my dad used to say, "It's a good deal if you get the thing you want at a price you are willing to pay." But then, he was in the advertising business.
My Dad used to say "A good deal is a state of mind."
Oh, an re: the school portraits, there is no comparison. Those businesses hire anybody to shoot the photos according to a set formula with provided gear, no skill required other than having your own transportation and the ability to move the kids along and get it done and get the f out of there. Two schools per day or find another job. Oh, and the pay? About $10 an hour.
I get what you're saying, Foot.
But Glatt is essentially asking for something the photographer has already done and been paid for. And it wasn't a personal portrait, where he was able to choose clothes and angle and background.
A nominal fee is fine, but £25 (ish) is high.
To me it seems like charging people to take food home from a restaurant. The restaurant have to buy in doggy bags or cartons and they pay for them. But the larger cost is for the produce, the cooking and the staff and that is taken into account when they set the menu price.
But then I work in retail, and I hear customers say "just" and "only" every working day without considering the actual cost of their requests. So I accept I could be wrong here.
It also seems like if I were to pay $50, I should get the original image, not a medium sized jpeg. What he's offering me is smaller than the images my 7 year old consumer grade camera produces.
This guy is a pro, and he deserves to eat, but there is no way I'm paying $50.
So he gets nothing. Or do I insult him by giving a counter offer and then he might get something.
Have you ever haggled, foot? Have you heard of other photographers haggling? It it offensive, or all just part of business?
It depends on how it's done. I had a client hire me to shoot a bunch of work by an artist for their product. The artist wanted to piggy back on the client's job without asking the client, essentially, she'd get the benefit of the images without having to pay other than her offering me the cost of film and processing.
this was just one of too many duplicitous things she'd done in my presence and I told her to fuck off.
Another client (The first and last wedding I ever did or will shoot) asked for the negatives after being told explicitly and in our contract that the negatives were not for sale. After dealing with her breaking at least three other terms of the contract, I lost it with her.
There have been other times where I've given people freebies because they were polite or good clients or I was in a good mood.
You could make a counter offer, but you have to remember he is going to spend time sorting through his files trying to find the picture, this could be instantaneous if he is organized or time consuming if not. It breaks his workflow and may be an annoyance if this is not how he is set up to work. Every minute he spends dicking around with a jpeg for you is a minute he's not billing 200 an hour. Consider that he may be doing you a favor even responding to you because he liked you.
Personally, I wouldn't try to talk him down any more than I'd try to talk any other professional down.
As for your comparison to the file size from your point and shoot and his camera, it has nothing to do with pixels. Kind of like saying that you and Barry Bonds are the same height so you should be as good a ball player as him.
Most importantly, Sir, we're not the taco stand
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Thanks.
I told him that it was just too much for me and that even though I liked it, I couldn't justify spending so much.
I didn't ask for a discount. We'll see if he even responds.
That's how I'd play it. He might have thought you were going to make a trillion headshots for your nascent character actor career, in DC, that hotbed of film making...
If I reeeeeally wanted that particular photo, I'd offer him $25.
So he replied asking how much I would be willing to pay, and he explained that it's an unusual situation because the firm already paid him. But that he normally charges $200 for individual portrait sessions. And he pretty much made all the points that Foot did.
I was pretty surprised at how much he wrote. It was a really long email for somebody dickering over some fraction of $50.
I said I valued what he did, but the picture was only worth $20 to me. And I hoped that I wasn't offending him.
He hasn't responded yet. And $20 is even more than I wanted to spend, so I'm cheating myself. I should have offered $10, since that's about what it's worth to me.
Interesting negotiations over nothing.
Maybe he thinks you're coming on to him and are willing to barter. Let's see if he suggests further negotiations over dinner.
Foot's points are valid BUT he has already been paid for the work. All those points should already have been taken into consideration when he priced the job. he's milking it. It wasn't a portrait session. How many images did he take to get that one? the price should reflect the time and effort it will take for him to find the file (?convert to appropriate format), and send it, plus a bonus in appreciation of his artistic talent because you wouldn't be interested if it were a crappy pic, but HR would still have been satisfied.
Personally, I wouldn't try to talk him down any more than I'd try to talk any other professional down.
This.
There are people who try to dicker over everything. Not that they can't afford it, or don't think the product/service is worth it, they just like the game. I've seen a guy talk a tour guide down from $25 to $15 then give the guide a $20 tip.
Personally I never try to talk a pro down, I either give her the $5 or walk away.
*snort*
I never would have made it under a barter system. "How much is that pack of chewing gum? 100 bucks. or my right arm? Well, um...ok."
My Dad used to say "A good deal is a state of mind."
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Maybe he thinks you're coming on to him and are willing to barter. Let's see if he suggests further negotiations over dinner.
Or trade for a modelling session.
I haven't heard back from him. I guess when I told him $50 was too much, and he responded, offering to negotiate, he didn't like my $20 offer.
Oh well. It's a relief, actually. I think $20 was too much for a medium resolution digital image that he was already paid to make.
Can you get the already paid for image in file format from HR?
I posted it above. That's it. Low res.
not sure if this will last or even work.... but... i was bored. so... time lapse glatt:

Cool! Makes it look like I haven't changed much at all.
Cool! Makes it look like I haven't changed much at all.
That's because you haven't changed much, basing on those pictures.
Cool! Makes it look like I haven't changed much at all.
That's because you haven't changed much, basing on those pictures.
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Doh! Well, if you put the posts together....:nuts: Dude, I'm so freakin' tired. Earlier I was at the office registering my mom for a medical procedure when I suddenly blurted out to the lady, "I need a massage." She looked at me surprised. I told her I know it's weird to suddenly say that to a stranger but I'm so tired. She laughed and said she's been there. I made that post a bit later while waiting for my mom. See, that's my excuse, hihi. :p:
Do you think I have changed a little bit??
I didn't recognize you. You look more like Rich Levy.
Grab a glass of tea and you're Uncle Si!!!!
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That beard deserves a salute!
Nice to see you (under all that winter coat).
Grab a glass of tea and you're Uncle Si!!!!
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I have to admit Si is my hero. LOL. I think I am beginning to look more like an ewok
So, Sarge, you want to grow a beard or you're just not shaving for a reason? Just curious.
He's preparing for the role of Santa Claus. He takes Secret Santa quite seriously. Have you been a good Lola Bunny?
I've been a very good bunny. :yesnod:
I've been a very good bunny. :yesnod:
I'd like to play Santa and climb down your chimney;) Honestly, it is due to some issues related to my medical problem. Hard to explain in such an open forum
Ahhh....okay. Well, throw on a red suit and you'll be just like Santa!
I might as well come out and admit it. I'm transgendered and working hard on living my new life
I've been a very good bunny. :yesnod:
I'll bet you have...;)
I'd like to play Santa and climb down your chimney;)
That didn't come across creepy
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I'll bet you have...;)
That didn't come across creepy at all.:lol2:
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If Grav makes a comment about it, the other comment must've been of sexual nature. I thought Sarge meant he wants to come visit me. :-P
You're adorable.
Be it a compliment or not, I'll take it as one, hehe.
Oh, he wants to come visit you.
Yay! Sarge won the Eurovision Song Contest!
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Yay! Sarge won the Eurovision Song Contest!
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I am so happy and plan to devote my first love song to gravdigr. we're planning the music video now and I don't know if I should wax or not for my thong shots
Sarge I think you look splendid.
And you must be in a happier place than you were for a while; there was a time you wouldn't even post photos here.
Yay! Sarge won the Eurovision Song Contest!
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I saw that pic! :lol2:
I am so happy and plan to devote my first love song to gravdigr. we're planning the music video now and I don't know if I should wax or not for my thong shots
Don't tease me, you sexy pandabeast.
I might as well come out and admit it. I'm transgendered and working hard on living my new life
From panda to.... ewok? ;)
From panda to.... ewok? ;)
the military industry complex are developing a new super soldier.
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Glatt: That is super cool. Looks like lots of fun too. And I like the way you say, "Yeeah!" :D
Glatt, Glatt, Glatt of the Jungle
Strong as he can be
Watch out for that tree
Glatt, Glatt, Glatt of the Jungle
Lives a life thats free
Watch out for that tree
:haha:
Now THAT's sexy: glatt ziplining through the forest. Can I help you comb your hair? ;)
Seriously, cool stuff, glatt. My brother and sis-in-law went ziplining last weekend in hocking hills. Imma do it this summer sometime.
glatt, that looked great!!
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Yeah, is right!

Mertyle beach, SC.
Kicking off vacation the right way. Rum punch by the pool(s).
Getting ready to go have a nice seafood dinner with Dorothy Mantooth, and NEVER call her again!
JimHelm can haz bukkit!!!!
If i drank something that came in a bucket, they'd need to pour me into one!!
I'm sure it's just the reflection of the sky in your eyes, but we just watched "World War Z" last night and they gave the zombies those same pupil-less eyes. Took me aback for a moment. But zombies never had such an adorable hairstyle, so I knew it was all safe. :)
I'm sure it's just the reflection of the sky in your eyes, but we just watched "World War Z" last night and they gave the zombies those same pupil-less eyes. Took me aback for a moment. But zombies never had such an adorable hairstyle, so I knew it was all safe. :)
couldn't have said it better. !!!
This was me last night. I was out with some girlfriends. Had a lovely time.
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Happy, pink, and plenty of both. Excellent.
Yeah, it was a birthday party for a girlfriend. We happened to be sitting under a pink neon sign. I liked the effect it gave the picture.
Someones been using too much Melange.
Thanks IM. I am slowly growing my concave bob out again. Almost there now.
Griff, what is melange?
Melange is The Spice ... the drug that alters reality and permits space travel in the universe of Arrakis, the only planet where it exists. Everyone wants it. Few have it. Gross, disgusting beings fight over it. Unfortunately, giant lethal worms and intransigent indigenous peoples refuse to cede ownership; thus, wars.
You know ... like oil.
Thanks IM. I am slowly growing my concave bob out again. Almost there now.
Griff, what is melange?
Seriously, I like the way it lays. You have gorgeous hair! I have thin hair and I would love if it would look like yours...but it ain't meant to be. You're a pretty woman. :)
Thanks IM. I had been to the hairdresser that day. Actually she was sitting next to me when i took that selfie. She was helping me perfect the duck lips pose. Haha
RF few weeks ago. I'm going to cut my hair soon so I thought I'd put up a before picture. The second picture is when I went to the beach...haha.
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Melange is The Spice ... the drug that alters reality and permits space travel in the universe of Arrakis, the only planet where it exists. Everyone wants it. Few have it. Gross, disgusting beings fight over it. Unfortunately, giant lethal worms and intransigent indigenous peoples refuse to cede ownership; thus, wars.
You know ... like oil.
Very well put!
Lola - you are such a beauty. You kill me wearing so much clothing at the beach...........sigh
I can't believe you'd cover up almost entirely Lola! Kinda seems like not really getting into the whole swing of beaching to me. Is the water always murky like that?
Places like Corpus Christy are always breezy and one can get wind chafed. People in the background are covered up too.
I'd still like to see more skin;)
Is the water always murky like that?
Texas beaches are gross. Often you can see the oil tankers on the horizon.
Griff, what is melange?
Melange is The Spice ... the drug that alters reality and permits space travel in the universe of Arrakis, the only planet where it exists. Everyone wants it. Few have it. Gross, disgusting beings fight over it. Unfortunately, giant lethal worms and intransigent indigenous peoples refuse to cede ownership; thus, wars.
You know ... like oil.
Very well put!
orthodoc ftw. It was directed at the pupiless lady before Ali in the thread. The Spice changes eyes to look much like Subdae's in that pic.
Places like Corpus Christy are always breezy and one can get wind chafed. People in the background are covered up too.
I don't wear coverups like that, but I'm often tempted. I HATE applying sunscreen. I'd rather put on a goofy suit than wear sunscreen.
Ali, I first read that as growing out your concave boob again, and that set me wondering all sorts of questions.
Haha..nice. dont have them though. Just a new do.
Texas beaches are gross. Often you can see the oil tankers on the horizon.
I can't believe you'd cover up almost entirely Lola! Kinda seems like not really getting into the whole swing of beaching to me. Is the water always murky like that?
Yups, the water is rather nasty. :p: But hey, who cares, we had fun. :D The water was cold and the sun was hot, burning hot after standing under it for a while, as a matter of fact. So, exposing all my skin except your private parts wasn't my idea of being at the beach. I like the feel of the waves, the cold water, the open air, and just having fun. This time, someone brought an inflatable raft and that was a whole load of fun.
Places like Corpus Christy are always breezy and one can get wind chafed. People in the background are covered up too.
I heard the beach down in Corpus Christy is really nice and clean. The only problem is that it's a 3 hour drive from where I live. If I were to drive 3 hrs each way, it'd have to be a weekend thing. To waste 6 hrs travel just to go to the beach is not worth it for me.
I don't wear coverups like that, but I'm often tempted. I HATE applying sunscreen. I'd rather put on a goofy suit than wear sunscreen.
For me, it wasn't a hassle to put on sunscreen. I reapplied 4 times to all the exposed skin areas, which wasn't much in the first place. I just didn't want to get skin cancer. My skin is pretty sensitive and the sun easily (quickly) brings out the age(sun) spots on my face and arms. I understand how wearing a bathing suit to get a nice tan and not have all those nasty sand get on the clothing could be wonderful and more of how going to the beach should be, but I guess my health is more of my concern. Besides, wearing rash guards doesn't hinder my fun one bit. This one time at the pool, I saw this white lady wore a long sleeve rash guard and swimming shorts. I guess there other fair-skin people out who need to protect their skin too.
In response to Sarge, I just bought myself a long-sleeve rash guard. Wait until next time I go to the beach, I'll be even more covered up. :D :lol:
Although I'm not too concerned at the moment, I don't want this to become cancerous. And my left arm used to be clear but now it's full of spots. I don't want it to have more spots or have the spots to spread.
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Never cut your hair short again
Never cut your hair short again
I agree!!!
Okay, stop perving over Lola's hair. Herverts.
Some of us have it shorn short so we can be ready to go out a few minutes after sex.
Take two bottles into the shower? Yes please, one white one red.
Although I do agree with them little Bunny. If I had your hair (your face, your looks, your figure etc etc) I wouldn't have it cut. Too beautiful.
Do I look smug in this photo?
I think I do.
It's not even a flattering angle. But it is my birthday so you have to be nice to me.
While I was off at my job interview (I got a new job! expect me to tell you in every thread) my Mum went to a little independent shop to buy me a brooch. I don't do brooches. I tole her so. I dragged her across the road to say I din't do brooches but if I did I'd have that one. It wasn't a hint - her coming up here was my present. I dragged her to look at baby clothes and in estate agents windows too and I have no expectations along those lines.
Anyway, she remembered, which makes it the most precious brooch in the world. AND it has a little loop set into it that allows you to wear it as a necklace. So I promptly did.
See why I look smug now?
Sundae, dear, you look absolutely gorgeous with your short hair. I wish I could pull off short hair like you. And my smile, can't compare to yours either. Just flash that smile and you look fabulous in any angle. Congrats on your new job. I'm glad your mom made your day. And that brooch, beautiful. It makes a really nice pendant.
Sundae - you are radiant! Though I am concerned because gingers have no souls :) Baby, you don't play second fiddle to anyone in the looks department.
LB - I am very, very concerned about the moles you have. Please for the sake of your health, undress and photo yourself. If you post the pics and do so regularly, we will be able to catch any changes to them. I am only thinking about you as a medical professional.
LB - ...undress and photo yourself. If you post the pics and do so regularly...
Oh, please don't do that. I spend too much time fapping to the internet as it is...
LB - I am very, very concerned about the moles you have. Please for the sake of your health, undress and photo yourself. If you post the pics and do so regularly, we will be able to catch any changes to them. I am only thinking about you as a medical professional.
You want pictures of my moles?? I will search for them and take pictures for you, Sarge. ;)
You want pictures of my moles?? I will search for them and take pictures for you, Sarge. ;)
dog gone it, woman! i'll never get anyplace. Don't laugh at my clumsy attempt below. I've been taking internet classes.
Bạn là hoa đẹp nhất mà tôi đã từng nhìn thấy. Người chiến thắng trái tim của bạn sẽ là một người đàn ông may mắn.
I've been taking online classes too! [COLOR="LemonChiffon"]At being a smart ass...[/COLOR] Có cách nào để các nhà ga xe lửa? Cả hai đường.
Khu lady vườn của tôi đang là destroted bởi nốt ruồi.
Khu lady vườn của tôi đang là destroted bởi nốt ruồi.
Google Translate's offering: 'My lady garden area is destroted by moles'.
Worryingly similar to Monty Python's 'My hovercraft is full of eels'
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You want pictures of my moles?? I will search for them and take pictures for you, Sarge. ;)
I think he's more interested in the surrounding area.
dog gone it, woman! i'll never get anyplace. Don't laugh at my clumsy attempt below. I've been taking internet classes.
Bạn là hoa đẹp nhất mà tôi đã từng nhìn thấy. Người chiến thắng trái tim của bạn sẽ là một người đàn ông may mắn.
Awwww.....you're super sweet. Always have been. Thank you. :hug: :hug: :hug:
I've been taking online classes too! [COLOR="LemonChiffon"]At being a smart ass...[/COLOR] Có cách nào để các nhà ga xe lửa? Cả hai đường.
Ha....funny man. :D
Khu lady vườn của tôi đang là destroted bởi nốt ruồi.
Google Translate's offering: 'My lady garden area is destroted by moles'.
Hahahahha.....I hope that's what you're hoping to say, Sundae, because that's what you said. :p:
I think he's more interested in the surrounding area.
Well, just white skin. What's there to look at? :nuts:
Me as of Wednesday (I think)
My first chance to post it though.
Welcome back, Sundae!
What a way to spend a week.:eek: I'm sure you'll agree with that sentiment.
How are you feeling? On the mend, I trust?
Bit of a bruise on the hand, isn't there? Ouch
Glad you're feeling well enough to post. I hope it doesn't hurt too much to laugh, like I did, when I saw your pose. This is what came to me:
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Hahahah. Clever.
My Mum used to be a phlebotomist btw.
I hope you're well, Sundae. You look good
Don't get sick again, we worry and stuff. Just say NO to being sick.
Dana and I chose the photo as the one which best showed the yellow.
I certainly didn't expect compliments (she tried to talk me into a more flattering one!)
I'm feeling much better now (said in a Mischa Barton way)
No, really - I'm much better than when I went in. Can't say I'm 100%.
Hahahah. Clever.
My Mum used to be a phlebotomist btw.
Paging Dr. Acula...
Me and Elspode, RFLast night
Me RF yesterday. We drive onto the beach, but the rules are that you have to be "actively fishing". We do not go to fish. In fact, yesterday was a surprise 50th birthday party for my brother in law. I threw in my line with weight and treble hook - no bait - and a little later, people were yelling that I'd hooked something. It was a fighter, but I got it in (hooked on the shoulder), and then had to do something with it. Luckily another guy had the tools to de-hook it, and we very carefully threw it back.
Careful...that's how the Crocodile Hunter died!
This was me on Thursday.
I just saved you $6. Now you don't have to ride the Giant Dipper in Santa Cruz.
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Me and Elspode, RFLast night
I finally figured out what it takes to get him to my place. Classic cult films outdoors in my back yard! It was wonderful to finally meet Syc face to face, and also his lovely wife Michelle. They are just as groovy in person as they are online.
Didn't we used to have a "how many Dwellars have met in person" thread? If not, we need one.
Didn't we used to have a "how many Dwellars have met in person" thread? If not, we need one.
How about
this one??
I finally figured out what it takes to get him to my place. Classic cult films outdoors in my back yard! It was wonderful to finally meet Syc face to face, and also his lovely wife Michelle. They are just as groovy in person as they are online.
I knew elSic looks familiar. It's Sycamore. :-) Now, if only I could remember his real name. :-( Sorry, I'm lousy with names.
Sorry, I'm lousy with names.
Me too Honey Bunny!
Ha! Dude, my name is right there. :p:
Great to see Syc, Spode and Spex - and all on the same page!
And now I''ve seen Glatt's woodie [heheheh]
Two and a half Dwellars.
And me on the train home after a lovely afternoon with Dani.
Two and a half Dwellars.
And me on the train home after a lovely afternoon with Dani.
And Carrot is thwarted in his bid to become the Yorkshire Area Photobomb Champion of the Year.
Better luck next time, old chap.
Very nice! I love these GTG shots.
Just cut my hair... Sorry, LJ. My hair will grow back. :D
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I like z short hair !!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !!!
Bunny, you go girl.
You could get a grade 1 (dunno if that translates) and still have the same gorgeousness.
Seriously, that's gotta be better for you in the summer heat, right?
I'm still yearning for locks that long, Lola ... you're beautiful!
Once my hair grows beyond its current ridiculous length/appearance, I may post something again. Meanwhile, such gorgeous pics, Sundae and Dani! :)
It's still cool, some would call that still long. Did you save what they cut to auction off?
It's still cool, some would call that still long. Did you save what they cut to auction off?
I would donate it but they dont accept dyed hair. So I just threw everything away. If it's a bob, then you would call it a long bob. Technically, that is considered as medium length. My hair was a few inches shy of touching my waist, so I guess some would call this short.
Took this as a before pic before I head off to the salon this afternoon.
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Just cut my hair... Sorry, LJ. My hair will grow back. :D
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You look much younger. It looks nice and soft.
In still mad at you though.
Hi monster!
Seriously though, that news photographer isn't going to win any pulitzer prizes for that boring photo. People walking into a door off in the distance. Hidden behind a pillar and trash can.
Snuck in? Don't they know your the star, the engine powering the organization, the music director and glasses chooser? They should be showcasing you. :crone:
That tiny young thing with the tanned and toned thighs?
(and no I don't mean any of those huge swimmer boys young enough to be my offspring)
Looking damn good, Monster.
You need your own spread in the Ann Arbor version of Hello.
"Monster and Her Sporting Family Relax in Their Spacious Holiday Home with Banana Lady" (saves having to clean- we know celebs lie anyway)
"Can Still Say 'Harry Potter' Like Professor Snape"
Hi monster!
Seriously though, that news photographer isn't going to win any pulitzer prizes for that boring photo. People walking into a door off in the distance. Hidden behind a pillar and trash can.
It's a still from the new swimmer-pron movie 'Behind The Beige Door'.
Dude those boys are 13-17 and two of he swimmers that day were my kids.
It was 92 degrees marshalling the 9/10 kids today, but at least most of them are shorter than me.
Wow, the Cellar ladies are looking great! How did we manage to score so many hot women on this site? In my redneck tongue, I'm trying to say you all look gorgeous
Dude those boys are 13-17 and two of he swimmers that day were my kids.
I'll stop trying to be funny.
If I offended you I sincerely apologize.
You have to know I was joking. Did you really think I really thought they (you) were shooting a porn movie?
I'm just gonna shut the fuck up for a while.
Again, sorry.
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I'll stop trying to be funny.
If I offended you I sincerely apologize.
You have to know I was joking. Did you really think I really thought they (you) were shooting a porn movie?
I'm just gonna shut the fuck up for a while.
Again, sorry.
Geez, grav, I never got this lovin' from you ... don't you dare shut up or go away. I depend on your humor here to get me through the pennsyltucky bs when it happens.
Damn the haters, post that humor!
I thought Monster had house-broken Gravdigr a couple of years ago....... I guess he'll have to stand in the corner again. They keep making me put my nose in a circle on the chalk board.
Grav, you can stop trying, but there will always be some who laugh at you anyway. ;)
I didnt think what you said was offensive anyway fwiw.
If I offended you I sincerely apologize.
Oh shut up. Monster's a sharp cookie, and playing the offended card to a T. Don't fall for that shit, man. There's nothing wrong with you or your posts. :headshake
I think the jury may still be out on the former...
;)
That's me - the gray hair in front - at my new job. :)
It really is VERY nice. I certainly never expected to be pimping weed for a living, but I have to say, I'm LOVIN' it. :D
To a person, the staff, management, and owners are all outstanding human beings, and our customers are nearly giddy with joy. Finally, a job that's fun, working with and for people I genuinely like and respect, selling top-notch products to people who just can't get enough. FUCKIN' DREAM COME TRUE~!
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Glinda - are you having problems with the illegal aliens overrunning your town?
Glinda - are you having problems with the illegal aliens overrunning your town?
Not that I know of . . . in fact, I haven't heard a thing about the issue at all!
(To be fair, I haven't been watching the local news of late - too darned busy!)
It really is VERY nice. I certainly never expected to be pimping weed for a living, but I have to say, I'm LOVIN' it. :D
To a person, the staff, management, and owners are all outstanding human beings, and our customers are nearly giddy with joy. Finally, a job that's fun, working with and for people I genuinely like and respect, selling top-notch products to people who just can't get enough. FUCKIN' DREAM COME TRUE~!
:joint:
:thumb2: Very nice to meet you! :D
Oh come on, Brian Budz - President. :lol2:
Hope it stays what you want, for as long as you want, Glinda. :thumb2:
Saw this in a UK newspaper the other day.
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I have Glinda envy
Me too.
It really is VERY nice. I certainly never expected to be pimping weed for a living, but I have to say, I'm LOVIN' it. :D
To a person, the staff, management, and owners are all outstanding human beings, and our customers are nearly giddy with joy. Finally, a job that's fun, working with and for people I genuinely like and respect, selling top-notch products to people who just can't get enough. FUCKIN' DREAM COME TRUE~!
:joint:
That's awesome. really.
congrats!
Glinda, I've heard there have been a lot of glitches with the setup up there compared to Colorado. How has it been in your experience so far?
Oh come on, Brian Budz - President. :lol2:
I swear to god, that's his
real name (really and truly)! It's like his parents
knew . . .
Hope it stays what you want, for as long as you want, Glinda. :thumb2:
Thanks. :) It's a little crazy now, because we don't have a steady supply of bud yet. The state just issued grower licenses in mid-April, so the supply is pretty spotty right now. Give it another three weeks when harvest time kicks in, and we expect to have a regular stock of 100-150 strains all the time.
In the meantime, everyone's taking it one day at a time. We had another crazy day today - got a few pounds in overnight, and out the door it went in 3.5 hours. :cool:
Glinda, I've heard there have been a lot of glitches with the setup up there compared to Colorado. How has it been in your experience so far?
So far, except for the lack of a steady supply of weed, it's going really well. We use a
software program that's connected to the state's database, so everything that comes in and goes out is automatically recorded to the state's satisfaction.
Here in WA, there is no open bud anywhere in the store. By law, growers must have their bud tested by the state and all THC and CBD levels must be documented. Then, growers are required to package (heat seal) the bud in whatever increments they want, and affix labels similar to the one seen in the image posted by Carruthers, noting the strain, the weight, THC and CBD levels, moisture content, lot number, and so on. When it arrives in the store, it's already a done deal - no measuring, no trimming, no nothing by any of us. We just put the packages in a bag and send the customer on his merry way.
Our store has also worked all taxes into the price to come up with an even number, to make it easier for buyers and staff. For example, today we were selling 2 grams of various strains for $40 total - that includes all the taxes (State Liquor Board [which oversees all MJ sales] as well as sales tax). So when we say you can buy 2 grams for $40, it's actually 2 grams for $40. The only other store in the area doesn't do this (and they charge a lot more, too - in general, what we sell for $40, they sell for $60).
Those prices are expected to come down soon, though. Right now, the grower can demand pretty much whatever price he wants. Soon, the supply will catch up with the demand, though, and prices will drop.
ETA: Edibles aren't on our menu yet. The state is still working out how they want things to go. The other day, the state decided there would be no candy edibles (lollipops, gummy bears, etc.), so it's probably only going to be baked goods, oils, and tinctures. Looking forward to the day they decide what the heck they're doing and let
us know!
Take heart in they haven't said you can do such and such, then weeks later say no, we changed our mind you can't do that. Oh sorry, the lobbyist for somebody important was on vacation when we made that ruling. Now the money and labor spent on making it happen a waste, plus it's now stuck in the customer's mind it's reality. In other words, it could be worse. :D
So it comes out to about $600 for a legal ounce of marijuana?? Note for legal purposes in MS an ounce of marijuana is 30 gm instead of 28.6 gm.
I'll stick to my whiskey/moonshine. It is a whole lot cheaper.
Sounds like it will work out in the end, Glinda...for EVERYONE! :joint:
I posted how I wanted to try some pot and blah blah blah but I lost it. :neutral: Anyways...as Sarge said, I think I'll stick to my liquor. Cheaper. :D
The finer things in life, although they can be free, are usually not the cheaper things.;)
The finer things in life, although they can be free, are usually not the cheaper things.;)
Hehe....Yups. For example, good liquor ain't cheap either. :p:
there ya go Dude ,
Chillen like a Villen !!!
Glinda! You rock! Good to see you.
glatt...it has to be said. You have very knobbly knees. :)
Glinda! You rock! Good to see you.
Thanks, IM! Now that my life is sort of stabilizing with an actual job, I'm feeling like it's time to reach out to old friends and catch up.
In my absence, I've been equally much too busy (scrambling for any little odd job that comes along and working my ass off for next to nothing, hocking jewelry, posting
for sale ads on Craigslist, holding yard sales, etc.) and far too depressed to post much.
But during that time, I've lurked occasionally and thought about the Cellar and its
outstanding collection of interesting, clever personalities often. Particularly over the course of the last few months, because . . .
[SIZE="5"]I HAVE A NEW COCK!!![/SIZE]
Please say hello to Norman. Norman Cocks. He's a Silver Gray Dorking. *
snort!* Unusually high in entertainment value and oddly suitable for mass Cellarite appreciation.
:cool:
Hi Glinda! All sounds pretty cool. And there's nothing quite like a nice new cock after all :)
So it comes out to about $600 for a legal ounce of marijuana??
Yeah, it's nuts. But you have to remember that the law applies a 25% excise tax at each level of the system: from producer to processor, from processor to retailer, and from retailer to customer. In addition, local retail sales taxes apply. That's a mighty heavy tax burden.
We're buying the stuff for $6-7 per gram right now, but that's going to drop a
lot once (1) currently licensed growers start harvesting, and (2) the state issues more growing licenses. Right now, there are only about 80 licensed growers; there are another 1800 on the waiting list.
Still, regardless of the price, people are more than happy to stand in long lines for it. Our primary clientele is baby boomers who have't smoked for decades and don't have their own connections. For these folks, even if they wanted some bud, they wouldn't know how to go about getting some, and the whole "it's illegal!" aspect generally stopped them in their tracks. But now that it's legal, they're coming out of their self-imposed pot prison and into the light!
THANK YA, BABY JEEZUS!!! :thumb2: :jig: :fumette: :beer:
I've never smoked it. Though, I hear it does work well in some PTSD studies. Lookout for that rooster! They are the most evil & spiteful creatures in the world. When my daughters aren't around, I have to wear a motorcycle helmet and carry a tennis racket for protection in the back yard. I swear, one day I will get my revenge on that rooster
Hi Glinda! All sounds pretty cool. And there's nothing quite like a nice new cock after all :)
See?! I KNEW you lot would take Norman to heart! :D
I've never smoked it. Though, I hear it does work well in some PTSD studies. Lookout for that rooster! They are the most evil & spiteful creatures in the world. When my daughters aren't around, I have to wear a motorcycle helmet and carry a tennis racket for protection in the back yard. I swear, one day I will get my revenge on that rooster
Oh, I've had my share of cocks that were complete dicks! :rolleyes:
Since then, I've wised up. Instead of just letting young chickens grow up pretty much on their own, when they're very young you need to hold and cuddle and carry them (especially the roos) around with you ALL THE TIME whenever you're in the chicken yard. Once they know you're their friend - and that you're
their boss whenever you're in the chicken yard - they don't usually come after people.
Usually. ;)
I'm the only one Red attacks. I think my youngest daughter could sit there and pluck out his feathers one by one and he would be happy. The kids say when I'm fighting with him, he thinks I'm doing a wing dance.
I hate roosters, squirrels, and humming birds. Can't forget the spiders either
Is there no cock whisperer that could show you how to dominate your cock? Put your knee on its chest and get all up in your cook's biness?
You're supposed to essentially ignore roosters. It's when they get habituated to handling and/or pushed around that they get dangerous.
So, in other words, if you handle your cock too much, it might go off? Got it.
I recently met someone who buys his supply wholesale through some sort of channel for $275. / oz.
A bunch of different flavors, apparently.
Oh, and Glinda? Nice cock! (The two words you don't want to hear in the men's room)
So, in other words, if you handle your cock too much, it might go off? Got it.
zactly
You're supposed to essentially ignore roosters. It's when they get habituated to handling and/or pushed around that they get dangerous.
Add to it Red is about the size of a small emu. After the tornado destroyed the coop, he hides in trees and on the roof waiting for me to walk outside
We had a rooster who was quite nasty. I used to just sink the boot in if he tried it on me, but my boys were small when we had him and they kept getting scratched.
He tasted quite good.
Yeah, two of my former roos turned ugly on me, but I never got friendly with either of them when they were chicks. The two I've had since then got a lot of attention as chicks and turned out to be very nice roos who never gave me or my neighbors (they care for my birds when I'm out of town) a bit of trouble.
It also depends on the breed. I can tell you that Americauna roos are real shitheads; leghorns and dorkings, not so much. :)
"Dorkings." *snicker*
My cock has been getting up at 5 as well... :eyebrow:
Truly though I may have to put the bastard in the freezer.
My cock has been getting up at 5 as well... :eyebrow:
Truly though I may have to put the bastard in the freezer.
dang. aren't you worried about frost bite? i'd have to stand on a ladder to be able to do that. my fridge is on the top of the refrigerator
Hesitating to join this convo,I have to ask ... beyond dorkings, are there any poultry breeds where the cocks actually protect their hens and aren't total dicks? I don't even care if they're protective; I can deal. I just want the cock to be a dick to the threat that matters. (Okay, this is an existential question;never mind.)
I'm looking at Jersey Giants and Ohio Buckeyes. Giants for the cocks and Buckeys for the hens. We have some ground predators here, nothing terrible so far; but we do have hawks and turkey vultures. I'm thinking that a Jersey Giant cock would be a match for most threats, and the Buckeye hens would manage in our climate.
A hawk might not take a large rooster, but it will still take the chicks. Thats the problem my father has. He keeps his chicks caged till they are at least pullet size.
I could keep the chicks protected that long ... I have a very nice enclosure that I used for kittens; could work well for chicks. It'll be all my show, though, no one else here is interested. Still - I may give it a go.
Hesitating to join this convo,.... I just want the cock..... I'm thinking that a Jersey Giant cock would be a match
... Quoted selectivity here for maximum comedic value...
Did I mention that I live in jersey?
Hesitating to join this convo,I have to ask ... beyond dorkings, are there any poultry breeds where the cocks actually protect their hens and aren't total dicks? I don't even care if they're protective; I can deal. I just want the cock to be a dick to the threat that matters. (Okay, this is an existential question;never mind.)
I'm looking at Jersey Giants and Ohio Buckeyes. Giants for the cocks and Buckeys for the hens. We have some ground predators here, nothing terrible so far; but we do have hawks and turkey vultures. I'm thinking that a Jersey Giant cock would be a match for most threats, and the Buckeye hens would manage in our climate.
Just about every breed of roo is going to be protective of his girls, to some extent. It's hardwired into them.
As far as being friendly/non-aggressive to humans, Dorkings are at the top of the list, and I've heard good things about Brahma, Cochin, Buff Orpington, Black Australorpe, and Silkie roos (and
bad things about Rhodies), but keep in mind that chickens, just like dogs and cats, have their own personalities. And, just like dogs and cats, they way a chicken is raised can have a lot to do with how it turns out - the more time you spend with them, the more you get them used to being picked up and held, the less trouble you'll have in the long run. (This is
particularly important if one of your flock should escape the fencing and you have to chase it down!)
In general, Dorkings, Orpingtons, Australorpes, and Americaunas are very mellow breeds.
I could keep the chicks protected that long ... I have a very nice enclosure that I used for kittens; could work well for chicks. It'll be all my show, though, no one else here is interested. Still - I may give it a go.
If you've got a good enough enclosure, you don't really need a cock at all. Hens lay eggs regardless. Do keep in mind, though, that the ratio of cocks to hens should be at least 1:15 (1:20 is better). Cocks are literal fucking machines (*
grin*), and they can be
very hard on hens if the ratio is too low.

The youngest and I RFlast month.
Glatt - you are downside up.
Looks ok on my phone, but tapatalk often acts weird.
Good to see you, classic.
You both look good, classic and glatt ... and if one or other of you appears upside down/downside up, after all, we're all in orbit. It's all good.
Hey. Look at that. I'm upside down.
Careful, You're gonna spill your wine
I took this pic of Sarge on an incognito recce yesterday evening behind my house when he wasn't looking! I've had it ID checked by Sundae - she swears it's accurate.
that is great!!!!! It looks just like me
Not RFN, sometime in the not too distant past, but, it is me:
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Grav, your legs are very white.
Glatt, you'd like to have very pale legs too?
owwww gravdigr - do you have any pics of your toes squishing strawberry jam??/
Grav, your legs are very white.
I'm very white.
owwww gravdigr - do you have any pics of your toes squishing strawberry jam??/
No, but, for a price, we might work something out...:rolleyes:
You ain't posting on Craig's List, are ya?
I don't know if I was more scared of the horse or the eagle!
wow. I've never held an eagle, let alone done it while sitting on a horse
What a wonderful picture!
Horses and birds of prey are guaranteed to attract my attention.
Next time, please find a Labrador to go with it and make it the perfect photo. :thumb:
Limey you look gorgeous!
Very impressed at your outdoors deriring-do.
Good job I'm not competitive, because the best I can do is geese and pigeon-minions. And possibly mounted on Carrot. And then Dana would have to kill me.
She shall be Queen! And Pope!
Epic is as epic does
Epic is it!

I don't know if I was more scared of the horse or the eagle!
Very Putin-esque! Shoulda took yer shirt off.:p:
:thumb:
She shall be Queen! And Pope!
Nope, that would be a demotion.
Print up a few pocket size copies and if anyone give you any shit just whip one out and say, "Hold my horse... and Eagle". :haha:
Limey you look fab but I think your eagle is eying your horse! :eyebrow:
Limey, are you off to menace some serfs?
Awesome pic :)
Dan - Wow is that a real bird?
Dave - Yes Dan, It's an Eagle.
Dan - No its not its head isn't white.
Dave - Yes it is, it's just a different kind of Eagle.
Dan - Whatever, that is still freakin awesome.
Dave - Thats also the woman who knitted your winter gloves.
Dan- The ones that Say DAN & PKA?
Dave - Yes Dan, those...
Amazing what the damaged brain retains ... can't remember an hour ago sometimes, but Limey and the gloves ... You win!
Thanks Classic! Say "Hi!" to Dan from me!
And RF last Sunday. Dan & I have been volunteering at the Eagles home games for a couple years now. We got to go last Sunday on a last minute cancellation...
And RF last Sunday. Dan & I have been volunteering at the Eagles home games for a couple years now. We got to go last Sunday on a last minute cancellation...
Dan - Wow is that a real football player?
Dave - Yes Dan, It's an Eagle.
Dan - No it's not, its face isn't black.
Dave - Yes it is, it's just a different kind of Eagle.
[/going to hell]
Ah, I slay me...
RF this morning.
Got an early-ish start and it was sprinkling off and on, so the trail was much emptier than usual for a Saturday. Billy Goat Trail. Great Falls National Monument, MD side of the Potomac.
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@ Classic: that's a lovely shot of you two. God, can you ever see that he's your son lol.
@ Glatt: Nah man, totally CGI - admit it, you's surrounded by green screen
(looks awesome. I'd love to walk around there)
thanks all.
[/going to hell] Clod, follow me - I know a shortcut!
Looking good Glatt. Any shrooms in your travels?
Yes! In fact there were some really nice shrooms, and I actually remarked to my son that it would be cool to know which ones you could eat, and which ones you couldn't, because if the ones we saw were edible, it would have made a nice meal or two.
The idea of foraging for dinner appeals to me, but the knowledge needed seems so vast and difficult to acquire that I don't feel motivated to start.
We should talk offline. Get the Audubon book. ($20.00) and I'll give you a couple/few/several you can't screw up. Doing the spore prints is pretty cool too.
In the mushroom dept, I stick strictly to the morels (dry land fish).
Eat these fellas sliced, fried in butter:yum::
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Don't eat this fella, though:headshake:
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That is a false morel, and some people can eat them with impunity, if prepared correctly. Some people get deathly ill, even if it is prepared correctly.
Toxins remain, correctly prepared, or not.:greenface
selfie from a couple days ago.
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hahahaha
ah, no
This time of year, the sun comes through the front window at an angle and time of day that lets me witness a slowly traveling dispersion of sunlight, refracted through the corner of my fishtank.
I watched the pretty colors on the floor and thought it might make a fun selfie. I was right, I did have fun. :)
Here's a shot of the floor, and a wider, brighter shot of the floor for context. I'd thought about putting it in the what is this thread, but ... meh. :)
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Yeh, Grav. We don't get many morels up here and they are typically pretty small.
Looking good "V"
From my company picnic, me, my buddy Cathy, my boss and two gals from the HR dept. I look like I photo bombed them...;)
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From my company picnic, me, my buddy Cathy, my boss and two gals from the HR dept. I look like I photo bombed them...;)
hahahaha. Excellent.
Dana I had my two fingers behind my boss's head but I decided against it :angel:
Hi Dave missed seeing you post, glad you are back :)
Here's a familiar face RF this afternoon. I got the pic via text and Cherry asked me to post it and says Hello!

Great to see that smile again, Cherry! :):):)
:thumb:
you look great!!
thank you (Sundae and limey) for checking in.
About an hour ago.
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Oh yeah. Its sort of fun for a change. :)
Ripley's got a real Winona Ryder vibe going on. Nice job, Jim.
Nice pic Jim. y'all look happy. :)
Your kids are way too cute! And your woman, too!
Love the smiling faces.
Nice pic, Jim. Great to see everyone looking happy.
Thanks! My brother had the camera. He's funny
Now the question is, who farted in that pic? It could be anyone but I'm saying it's one of the girls, James' smile is much too broad to have dealt it... or is it?
I'm popping in to say high. I've been "laid up" for awhile, been in and out of the VA with my feet and leg. I'm using a cane now, but hopefully it is only temp. This is my new look for Halloween. I'm practicing my crazy old coot look. :D
Sorry to here that you have been feeling bad. We will be praying for you also.
I forgot the other pics. Yes, I have a chicken that lives under my beard and roosts on my head. lol
Now the question is, who farted in that pic? It could be anyone but I'm saying it's one of the girls, James' smile is much too broad to have dealt it... or is it?

Great day for pictures. You guys look good. Even in the scowling second pic.
Wow. Kids looking soooo grown up now! Awesome pics Jim :)
@ Sarge - dewd, you is so rocking that beardie look, innit.
yeah, these are a couple of the shots we all took for my mom and dad. my sister's and brother's famblies all wearing black shirts and blue jeans.
There were so many fuggin gnats out that we may have to re-convene for a do over in 2 weeks.

That is a fucking brilliant photo!
The kid on the far left - he has such an adorable smile! Like, you couldn't look at him and not find youself smiling back.
Jim, you've got about five months tops before your son is taller than you lol. I love the way you can still see the kid even as the adult starts to show through. They look happy, healthy and confident.
Also - the bald chap - woof! Very handsome.
Lookin' good, Sarge! A kinda combo of biblical and eccentric!
And wow! All those Lumbergenes. Or Lumberjeans. Scary! But cool, too!
Sent by thought transference
Sarge - you're just getting a start for Santa early ;)
Me, RFThis summer. Mug shot for my employer.
I forgot the other pics. Yes, I have a chicken that lives under my beard and roosts on my head. lol
Sarge, dude, you look totally blissed with that chicken on yer head.
I gotta get a chicken. And put it on mah haid. Under my hat, of course.;)
I love the chicken, Sarge. And the beard!
Lookin good Ortho! Actually you are looking wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than good. ;)
I told my boss that it seems I photoshop well. He laughed and laughed. ;)
Nice mug shot, Ortho!
Nice mugs make for nice mugshots.
I told my boss that it seems I photoshop well. He laughed and laughed. ;)
Add because of that, you'd be an asset on brochures to drum up funding. ;)
You're understandably all stressed about these board exams, but in spite of self doubt and attempted spousal sabotage, you've got this.
Boy Scout camping in the Blue Ridge this weekend. They convinced me to be a leader, so I'm an Assistant Scout Master for the troop now.
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That's some steep terrain.
That's some steep terrain.
fixed. stupid tapatalk.
I started to say they were in good hands, but...
They convinced me to be a leader, so I'm an Assistant Scout Master for the troop now.
Gotta be careful. Just one bite, and they'll turn ya. (Wish we had a zombie emoticon...)
(Wish we had a zombie emoticon...)
Oh god yes!
I think I just had a geekgasm at the very thought.
<<<--- Still think orthodoc is a total hottie...
RF Last Monday.
You hairy-faced Fargon, you!
This is probably gauche, but I couldn't figure out how to d/l the video, so here it is linked from FB.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152572262747917
Yes, it is sideways, and yes...I am being thoroughly groomed by a cat.
Elspode: It says either the video has expired or we don't have permission to view the video. And yes, I logged in but still got the same message.
Oh, hai!
There you are. You must taste salty or something.
Hahahahaaaa! Love that. Only one of my cats will do that, but only after I eat Cheez-Its. lol
Domino does this pretty much daily. We raised him on a bottle from the age of one day, and I'm fairly certain he thinks we are members of his litter, or his parents...so we get groomed.
Elspode: is that your way of getting out of taking a shower? Haha....
Playing around with my nephew. He wouldn't let me bite him. Haha...
I got the eyedea for this costume from an old post, I think by Bruce, of halloween costumes in the 30's. I started it a year ago and then hit a snag and let it drop. My kids were pushing me this year to finish it so I did, putting the final touches on at the 11th hour. This is me RF last night.
What's under that coat? :eyebrow:
What's under that coat? :eyebrow:
The biggest bottle of Visine you ever saw!
I learned how to tie a couple special knots in an arbor rope today so you can climb a rope into a tree.
The knot is tricky at first, but I got the hang of it. It's called a Blake's Hitch. And there's another hitch for your feet to rest in. You sort of inchworm your way up the rope, alternating the knots you slide up while you rest on the other knot.
Kind of cool that I got the rope up there, tied the knots and did the climbing myself in this set of pictures.
A friend took these for me, but only gave me low res copies.
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Shouldn't that be the other way up? You know, hanging like a bat. ;)
Shouldn't that be the other way up? You know, hanging like a bat. ;)
Now it looks like she uses too much hair spray.
RFYTD at Jen and Mats wedding , the photog is short , i look like a Fn GIANT !!!
Zip, you are a giant among men. :thumb:
Thanks, Classic. Can't seem pix while browsing on my phone. :-/
zip, that is a nice looking family right there! Congratulations!
Glatt: You have such fun! :D
Zippy: I dont think it's cuz the photog is short. You look much taller than others next to you. What's wrong with being a giant? You look great!
Lookin' good Zip! congrats.
Good looking fam there, Zip.
He looks tall cuz Marines just stand taller.
[Size=1]Oo-rah![/Size]
Sunday Sundae

Hi Sundae!
Lookin good, happy!
good to know you got my back, bro.
Sheldon's got your back. :unsure:
See Sundae, same old, same old. :D
good to know you got my back, bro.
Jus' having a li'l fun with ya...:comfort:
Me and my new winter hat.
Is teh awesome. I love Green Bay. They're my number 2 team, behind Da Bears™. I've been with them both since I was about 9-10.
:devil:
Hey Sundae. You sure are looking good. I love your hear that color
Couple weeks ago with my GF & my sons. I just missed getting my daughter in the pic as well.
Nice lookin' folk, right there! :)
I don't think you've ever posted a picture of your lady before, classic. She's hot!
This is a frame of a video taken when I visited my brother in the summer, but I took the screen cap when I was cleaning out my phone just a moment ago, so it's arguably RFN.
We were playing with a
high powered LED he got, and I was holding the 36 volt conductors to the LED terminals to get it to light up. It was kind of bright. Imagine this in a flashlight? You could build a flashlight for it that took 4x9 volt batteries. Almost 8000 lumens, compared to most flashlights that have about 100 lumens.
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I don't think you've ever posted a picture of your lady before, classic. She's hot!
She
is a looker. What she doing with
you?:eyebrow:
Almost 8000 lumens, compared to most flashlights that have about 100 lumens.
Be the most hated son of a bitch in the campground. :haha:
It would be like carrying the sun in your hands.
Zip, you are a giant among men. :thumb:
Holy mackerel! Just how tall are you zip?
Holy mackerel! Just how tall are you zip?
Wouldn't it be funny if Zippy is 5'2". :p:
here's the dweller heigh thread, looking at it, I think more men than women answered
t
http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=28512&highlight=tall+dwellarsY'all are looking good. Here's one of me from a few days ago. I cut my hair and shaved my beard.
sarge, why must you sit on a throne of lies?
LJ - I really don't understand what you mean with that statement
Nice lookin' folk, right there! :)
thanks
Lovely photo!
thanks
I don't think you've ever posted a picture of your lady before, classic. She's hot!
I agree wholeheartedly
She is a looker. What she doing with you?:eyebrow:
I. have. no. idea. I ask myself that almost daily.
Here's one of the professional pics of my whole brood (is that right?)
Damn glatt - you made the microwave go dark.
Classicman - That's a great looking family. I know you must be very proud.
It was a quiet day at work. The optician brought out his party glasses, and I thought they look fun.
The optician? Does he sell them, or just wants to be ready in case a party breaks out?
Thanks for fixing the pic, Bruce. Those belong to his wife. She got them at a party or something like that, I don't remember exactly what he said. He was just showing them for fun.
thanks
thanks
I agree wholeheartedly
I. have. no. idea. I ask myself that almost daily.
Here's one of the professional pics of my whole brood (is that right?)
Such a beautiful family. So happy, so damn good looking. Professional, eh? Just curious, how much did you charge the photographer?
Oh, I see... you were just filling in for his wife. :bolt:
Lola B - you are so cute it hurts
Oh, I see... you were just filling in for his wife. :bolt:
No...:smashfrea
Thanks, Sarge. :)
As for everyone else who've posted your pics....you and your family look great!! :D (I know, I'm sorry for posting in this seemingly insincere way. But I really enjoy your pictures. :) )
Classicman - That's a great looking family. I know you [Strike]must[/Strike] should be very proud.
Fixed it.
:thumb:
You guys look awesome and this picture is awesome
why thank you :) and happy birthday.
Flipping heck Monster.
We finally get to see where the kids got their genes from.
Hawt on both sides.
Looking quite distinguished.
Now you've done it, you're officially part of the world's big problem. :haha:
Very stately! This picture makes me happy. Did everyone get to pose with the judge, or was it a casual request?
Congratulations! You two look very distinguished. I'd totally let you in, if I were a border guard.
Looking good...wow, that is really cool. Congratulations to you and beest!
Congrats to you both. Welcome aboard.
yes, everyone poses with the judge one way or another :eek:
Beest looks properly unimpressed.
Exam
(oh, wrong thread, ne'ermind)
Not me, not RFN, but, I saw Sarge the other day...
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looks like two's day from here.
whoa.
In my defense I was quite cold, hence the posture.
Had I realised the effect it had on my titties I certainly would have changed my pose. And you know I'm not usually shy in that respect, it was just a (rather big) surprise ..
just remember this next time you are posting in the NSFW RFN thread mkay?
Not sure how to take that...
Do or don't?!
I will regardless.
Cos I got a lovely (faux) fur collar. So there.
Don't? What are you kidding us? Of course Do, that's a given. :haha:
Derr. Did you think I was saying you shouldn't pose exactly like that sans the top? Me?
Yeah. I hate looking at huge boobs pressed together invitingly
Oh yeah.
Get it now.
Derr.
And ta.
That's his game face. He's looking at his fantasy roster. I see fear in his eye
He's looking at my 'normous rooster.
You don't have to be gay to recognise cock envy when you see it.
ETA the photo of me on the carousel is in a completely different thread sorry.
Back in the spring, a photographer visiting my work took a nice portrait of me for the firm's phone list, and when I asked him if I could get a copy, he wanted $50 for a small jpeg. That was too much, I thought, and we couldn't agree on a price, so we each got nothing.
So
when I learned that there was an artist who wanted to sketch portraits of people on post-its to include in a book, I thought that might be fun. He was doing a
kickstarter, and for the $25 level I would get a portrait. I was in! I took a bunch of selfies, chose my favorite one, and sent it in to him.
That was in October, and I forgot all about it until I got a stiff cardboard envelope in the mail yesterday. There was a thank you note inside, with my post-it portrait stuck inside the card. I'm pleased with how it came out.
That phone list photographer wanted $50 for attaching a file to an email, and this artist only wanted $25 for a real drawing, and mailing it off. This is such a better deal!
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A-ha, he did a good take on you!
Bu.... but... he gave you a crew-cut. :haha:
I can recognize you, so I'd say he did a worthy job!
yep. The little square post-it.
Want one, want one,want one.
Of me, natch. You being happily married and all.
Seriously though, that's special. Like put on a business card special.
Big likes from me. But to be fair you didn't exactly fall out of the ugly tree.
In fact I can't think of a Dwellar who did. Except LJ's brain. And I'd still jump his bones if it wasn't for Amanda .
You should take a selfie with the drawing of your selfie.
Glattception!!
...But to be fair you didn't exactly fall out of the ugly tree.
In fact I can't think of a Dwellar who did...
There's a reason there are no pictures of Bruce.
:stickpoke
Incorrect.
I just can't find it.
And I just like to tell you you're incorrect.
You should take a selfie with the drawing of your selfie.
Glattception!!
Why not? My vanity is happy to comply.
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There's a reason there are no pictures of Bruce. ...
Incorrect.
I just can't find it. ...
It was in his profile; but, removed after the paternity allegations began.
I trimmed the Ugly Tree once. Once.
And look what happened.
I think I have pink eye. You think patients would mind if I check their eyes while mine looking like this? Hihi...
Nah, they'll just think you're stoned. :D
I trimmed the Ugly Tree once. Once.
And look what happened.
Did it make it look bigger?
I think I have pink eye. You think patients would mind if I check their eyes while mine looking like this? Hihi...
That's racist!
OMFG Sundae, that was funny.
On my way to work last week. I have eye infection, so no contact lenses and no make-up until that clears up. Been looking like this all week long and still does. Hopefully I can get back into my contacts soon. I am not fond of wearing glasses. :-(
Hmmm...don't know why my pics are sideways these days.
We just lay down to look at them and it's kind of cozy.
You look so fresh, so wholesome, so pure, you could fool anybody. :lol2:
You smoke in those glasses. BTW, are you 18 or 19? Hard to tell. I truly wish I could look that young.
This is me, right now, today. Not too bad, all things considered. :right:
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You are getting younger too, Ali. :)
Ali - those eyes sure can make a guys heart skip a beat!! I love the hair
A couple of days back.
As mentioned in the bruises thread I am a little less puffy and a little more blue/ black.
Story to follow if anyone is interested.
Ali, you look gorge as always btw. Loving the hair.
Mine's back to pink. May as well, with an Avatar face I hardly blend in anyway.
Jesus, Sundae... that's pretty fecking dramatic.
Wtf happened to your face sandae?
Sundae, please get better soon.
For the short answer I had an argument with the
Chevin.
For the long (and a little bit sadder answer) I will probably post later in the
Cherry and Liver thread.
But hey, look how beautiful I am now!
Trust me, it still hurts to do that.
But for the Cellar, anything.
Did you fall down it, or did it rise up and smite you?
Glad you can still manage a smile!
[Size=1]Sarge will shit bricks.[/Size]
Glad to see you're looking better, Sundae! X
I shall name that appearance - Vineyard Camouflage. :neutral:
Glad to see your face looking better. Hope the pain goes away soon. :hug:
Ok, I'll bite: did you get mugged, did you get into a car accident, or did you fall down a long hill face first? If it's the third option, why?
With concern, I ask this.
Ok, I'll bite: did you get mugged, did you get into a car accident, or did you fall down a long hill face first? If it's the third option, why?
With concern, I ask this.
If you're not going to eat all of that... I'll have a bite too.
W.
T.
F.
Meh. Start of whole pathetic interlude
here.
I still don't understand where the bruised face came from.
Read the last part of the thread.
Anyway, Merry Christmas!
Looking better every day, Sundae!
Sent by thought transference
Sundae, great to see you smiling and hair-dyed again. My happy thoughts and best wishes are headed your way.
I shall name that appearance - Vineyard Camouflage. :neutral:
You are too fucking funny
Well this was taken last week as I tried to share my soup with my newest granddaughter, Caitlin. She is almost 1 now.
Wow. Great pic. Lookin good Chris.
You have a very nice looking family Chris. All the kids are gorgeous!
You have a very nice looking family Chris. All the kids are gorgeous!
Thanks Aliantha,
Caitlin was one of those grandchildren we weren't expecting. My daughter Deirdre had been dating and living with a co-worker for 6 years and got pregnant. However the relationship had apparently grown less solid, she still decided to go ahead and have the baby but is raising her by herself now. The father is from Mexico, so she brings a new twist to our family tree! This was only the second time we have seen her as my daughter spent the year up in Alaska with her brother.
That's awesome. Cute granddaughter.
You look happy Chris, you look great. And your granddaughter is a jewel.