The Walking Dead
I thought there was a WD thread already, but couldn't find it so must be mistaken...
Anyways. Figured we could use a Walking Dead thread around here. To put ....y'know....dead shit in.
Anybody else watching?
I may have mentioned one or ten times how much I love this show. I'm currently approaching the mid season closer of season 4.
It is currently my favourite programme on tv. Perfect bedtime viewing. This decade's BSG.
I love it so much it's got me into zombie fiction more generally (never my favourite horror trope until WD came along). I'm even downloading Left4Dead on Steam.
One of the things I really like about the current season is what they've done with The Governor. He was, as he probably should have been, a bit of a comic book villain. It was nice to see Morrissey chewing the scenery and being a nasty bastard. In between the smooth charm and whatnot.
I don't think I'd have a liked another season of that though. So, when I heard the Governor would be back I wasn't sure whether that was a good idea or not. And then they throw in such a wonderfully quiet and understated reintroduction to him that was a joy to watch. As fun as he is when he throws everything into the ring, Morrissey is at his finest with the quieter tones.
this is a wd as it gets// I sniped Sodam H with the eyes of Satan and the only way I can make it clear is by saying this... "you worship the back of that one dollar bill I don't"
Love walking dead.
The episodes featuring the "new" governor frustrated me. I wanted more of the main group.
What I find most interesting with the show is that, IMHO, Glen and Maggie are the only really likable characters. All the rest have serious flaws.
Loved the mid-season finale! No spoiler in case you haven't seen it yet, but DON'T miss it!
Frankly, just hearing the theme music and seeing the extreme close up of that doorknob and the eyeball, gets my senses right on edge.
Oddly, when I did a bit of research, there actually ARE more heinous attacks being reported around the world involving murder and cannabalism, than ever before.
The episode in FLA was the most graphic. The "zombie" attacked someone along a freeway, and starting biting his face off. Policeman orders him to stop, with his pistol pointed right at him - he doesn't stop! Officer shoots him with his side arm, wounding him - he STILL doesn't stop. He's eating the victim's face! All caught on video and on YouTube.
I'm chalking the higher number of incidents, up to much better reporting, and the internet - but I do wonder if some combination of modern day stresses and some (illegal) drug use, isn't really fueling some of this.
Anyway, great series!
Come the zombie apocalypse, I'm fucked. I've worked out that my house is undefendable (indefensible?). And my dog will absolutely not be quiet on command...
Love walking dead.
The episodes featuring the "new" governor frustrated me. I wanted more of the main group.
What I find most interesting with the show is that, IMHO, Glen and Maggie are the only really likable characters. All the rest have serious flaws.
I was frustrated at an episode without our intrepid gang of survivors. But, I have always loved David Morrisey and I thought his performance in the first of those eps (I haven't seen the second yet) was superb. I found myself actually interested in the Governor again.
Wish they'd all stop with the split seasons though. That shit pretty much killed the last couple of series of Doctor Who for me. I mean, I enjoyed them...but the rhythm of the series was all to whack.
Come the zombie apocalypse, I'm fucked. I've worked out that my house is undefendable (indefensible?). And my dog will absolutely not be quiet on command...
Our house is also impossible to defend. I've given this a lot of thought. We'll have to take our chances bugging out. We'll go half a block away, sneaking through back yards as much as possible, to the Metrorail electrical substation.
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I just have to practice picking locks. At least the access door is hidden from view, so I should have a moment to pick the lock if no zombies see me heading for the shelter.
It's perfect. No windows. Concrete walls. Metal doors.
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AMC is trying to screw the shows first developer, and he's started legal action to recover.
AMC‘s The Walking Dead is the biggest show on television but its developer Frank Darabont has yet to receive any money as a profit participant. Today, Darabont and his agency CAA filed a lawsuit (read it here) against AMC, accusing the network in “self dealing” by setting an unrealistically low license fee for the series it also produces and employing questionable accounting practices thus depriving profit participants of compensation. The complaint also alleges Darabont was wrongfully terminated from the show, that he should continue to receive an executive producer credit and is entitled to proceeds from The Walking Dead offshoots Talking Dead and the upcoming spinoff from Robert Kirkman, on whose graphic novel The Walking Dead was based. Darabont and CAA are asking for unspecified “monetary damages” to be determined by a jury trial. The 73-page complaint was accompanied by a summons from the plaintiffs for AMC to reply »
You have a great bug out site, glatt. Come the zombie apocalypse, I'm fucked. I've worked out that my house is undefendable (indefensible?). And my dog will absolutely not be quiet on command...
When the zombie apocalypse comes, I'm food. I will fulfill my duty to mankind by giving them sustenance.
I like your thinking, glatt.
And Spex: that's damn decent of you.
AMC is trying to screw the shows first developer, and he's started legal action to recover.
You have a great bug out site, glatt.
It's horrible when there's bad blood around the creative process.
You have to have big muscle behind you if you don't want the studios to eat your lunch.
Kinda like every other aspect of life/business on the planet.
Re the zombie apocalypse:
My house in the village would be indefensible but where I am currently living would be easy to avoid/ outmaneuver the zoms.
I think caching a lot of turkey loads all around would be wise. Between the swamp and the relatively open woods and steep ridges that enclose the valley, we could hold out for long time. Zombie deer may pose a problem...
Zombie deer? Now there are zombie animals? Does that mean we all have to go vegan?
Robert Kirkman is a Kentucky homeboy, fyi.
Zombie deer? Now there are zombie animals? Does that mean we all have to go vegan?
Watch out for the zombie zucchini, too
Watch out for the zombie zucchini, too
I always knew there was a sinister side to zucchini.
Have any of you checked out the Zombie porn? It seems like a growing industry
No. But I've noticed a lot of 'zomberotica' on kindle lately.
I think Sarah Michelle Gellar started the whole thing with Vampire Slayer,
much like Bob Villa started the real estate repair and flipping theme.
There ought to be a "Nobel Prize" award for personalities that launch
(actually) new forms of entertainment.
Y'know, I agree with that. I think that would be an awesome Nobel Prize.
I think Sarah Michelle Gellar started the whole thing with Vampire Slayer,
That explains her acting skillz
Have any of you checked out the Zombie porn? It seems like a growing industry
I didn't want to know that. :greenface
What are Zombies looking for in women?
I didn't want to know that. :greenface
and you certainly don't want to do a google image search, either.
I'll take your word for it.
There are already enough things I've clicked on/looked up from other threads that I can't unsee. :yeldead:
Okay, I have a question for you other folks who have watched Walking Dead. We have just started season 3, so I've skimmed some earlier parts of this thread to try to keep my spoilers to a minimum.
In that same vein, do not read the rest of this post if you haven't gotten to season 3 yet.
Okay, so in the part we're at, they have just settled into the prison, and Lori hasn't had her baby yet.
My question is, why is Rick all mad at Lori now? They implied that he blames her for somehow forcing him to kill Shane at the end of last season, but neither Mr. Clod nor I can figure out how that is remotely supposed to be her fault. Did we miss a plot point somewhere, or is this just an example of us being too logical and not understanding normal people's irrational emotions?
I'm thinking that he felt betrayed by Lori's total withdrawal from him after he admitted that he killed Shane. Probably felt that he lost her trust and respect. It never occurred to me that he blamed her for his actions, but beforehand there were a lot of conflicting emotions coming from her about the baby...whose it was, will it survive, it is worth to keep it to term, so she was never really on solid ground enough to give Rick a lot of support via the whole Shane thing. Maybe he did feel that killing Shane was a result of her not dealing with it effectively.
zombie Leprechauns.
Pros and cons. Please list.
Didn't Shane force the issue? By wanting her back or something?
zombie Leprechauns.
Pros and cons. Please list.
Pro: They would move even slower, even the fast ones.
Con: You'd constantly be swinging over their heads, smaller targets.
Plus:
♪ ♫They got little hands♪ ♫
♪ ♫Little eyes♪ ♫
♪ ♫They walk around♪ ♫
♪ ♫Tellin' great big lies♪ ♫
♪ ♫They got little noses♪ ♫
♪ ♫And tiny little teeth♪ ♫
♪ ♫They wear platform shoes♪ ♫
♪ ♫On their nasty little feet♪ ♫There's also the fact that she all but told him that he wold have to fight for her: that Shane was dangerous, deluded and likely to try and kill him in order to keep her and the baby he believed to be his own.
Then, afterwards, her response to him was not what he expected.
Incidentally: I watched the midseason finale night before last: well, fuck. I mean...just fuck.
Damn this show is awesome. Can't believe I have to wait til Spring now.
Fucking stoopid split seasons.
My question is, why is Rick all mad at Lori now?
I remember having the same questions, and I think I decided he was mad because he's a dick.
Damn this show is awesome. Can't believe I have to wait til Spring now.
Fucking stoopid split seasons.
Amen, sister!
And that means it'll be on at the same time as Game of Thrones, when it could be over before GOT starts. Assholes.
Just watched the season six premiere.
Holy fuck balls, that is a season opener.
I watched it.
I didn't like.
I mean I liked it like I always like The Walking Dead. And I appreciated the difference in colour to separate the time-jumps. But it was too much for my tiny brain to handle. I need to watch it again to work out the real order, which I can't do until it comes out on DVD. Grrrr.
I'm not very good with things not laid out in time-sequence. I don't mind a bit of confusion, but I need to have things straight in my head to properly appreciate them. If I had access to it, I'd watch and rewatch and enjoy. The pressure of knowing it was a one-off viewing ended up making me less clever about keeping the plot-lines separate.
Not saying it wasn't good.
Just saying my personal circumstances meant I didn't enjoy it as much as I would a straightforward rendering.
So far we've had three episodes that cover the same time period. It's an interesting structure.
I havent seen ep 3 yet. might watch tonight :)
They killed Glenn.
I'm in mourning!
Maybe switch the font color to white? DanaC hasn't seen it yet.
Whoah! Spoiler alert!
I've been avoiding articles all day that splashed 'death of fan favourite' all over the headlines.
Okay but!
Maybe he survives. There is quite the controversy.
Haven't seen the episode; I watch when they stream a year later. But they have "killed" SO many characters then revealed later they were alive. I am confident in saying that if you didn't see his throat ripped out at length from multiple angles, the dude is alive.
Keryx found some Walking Dead comic books at the library book sale. I guess it's every where.
Pretty sure he's dead. They showed walkers pulling his guts out, but I guess maybe the other guy might have been on top of him and Glenn will live because they don't realise he's there. That's my only hope.
Ffs - stop with the details!!
I thought it had already Bern spoiled? I was just responding to clod. Calm down.
You gave plot details - anything could have happened to Glen - all I knew was that apparently Glen appears to have died, but may not have. Now I have more details of that.
Please use spoiler tags for details of the major plot. I don't need to calm down - I'm not enraged. I was expressing mild frustration that I now have more spoilery details for this episode.
He does die in the comics, it's true.
But I have no idea how true the series has been to the comics, aside from the first two graphic novels that Dana lent me - where there were small differences. And a much later one I found in the library, but couldn't take out at the time as I had a fine on my card, but it was further on than I had watched at the time, so I was already warning myself in my head about maybe spoilers.
Been staying off the internet re series six for this reason. Even though I am the sort of person who opens Christmas presents early, birthday cards the day they arrive and snoops in people's bathroom cupboards. Usually everyone here is very good about spoilers, but a couple of slip-ups do not a flame war make.
I'm more upset at the idea Glenn is dead than the fact I read it here.
It was so good to see a Korean (or any other pan-Asian) character in a leading role where their race/ heritage forms absolutely no part of the storyline.
I don't look at this thread until I've seen the latest ep because I would expect there to be spoilers. What's the point of having the thread if you can't talk about the latest ep? Download it all free from cokeandpopcorn.ch .
Anyway, I guess I'll just fuck off again then.
Don't fuck off you silly fucker.
We still love you and your hair completely.
Seems to me that after an episode has aired, spoiler alerts need not be given. If you read a thread about a show, you can expect discussion to cover what has occurred on that show in the past.
Please remember that films and TV series take longer to reach us here though.
And it's not just the Brits - some people don't have access to the right channel, or have work/ family commitments on the date of airing.
We've discussed this before (Game of Thrones?)
I think there was a suggestion that we had an open thread and a no spoiler thread and then everyone realised that was just silly.
I think that was here, anyway.
I guess I can stay out of this thread. But I will continue to be careful about major shocks and plot points of things I do get to watch, and books, and anything that may change someone else's experience when watching or viewing if they knew about it in advance. Because although I like to know how other people think and feel about things, I don't need to know exactly what caused it.
And again, that is not a criticism of anyone on the Cellar. It's my POV.
Good point. I guess if we just discuss generalities and not specific plot points.
I dunno, media consumption is so weird now anyway. I'm like Clod. I'm years behind everyone else in the Walking Dead, so I don't care about spoilers here because I'll probably forget by the time I get around to that episode. I'll often wait for a show to be in its final season on the air before I start streaming it. That way, I can watch at my own pace and I'm not waiting for the next episode.
I generally try to put spoilers in white text, or give a spoiler warning and leave a gap. Not for incidental stuff, but for major plot points. It isn't that plots can't be discussed - it's just nice to be able to have a discussion with different people all at different stages of watching without that spoiling it for those of us who are a little behind.
I may be 1 or 2 episodes behind and wanting to post about how awesome episode 2 was.
I don't look at this thread until I've seen the latest ep because I would expect there to be spoilers. What's the point of having the thread if you can't talk about the latest ep? Download it all free from cokeandpopcorn.ch .
Anyway, I guess I'll just fuck off again then.
Don't take this stuff as more serious than it is Ali. 'ffs' and other expletives are just how I communicate, it doesn't indicate any real anger. I'm rarely more than mildly aggravated by a spoiler and then rarely for more than a few seconds.
This whole discussion is bullshit really. It's simple. I just won't participate. The rules seem obscure and subjective and I really just can't be bothered with dumb shit like this these days.
They're not rules, they're requests for spoiler warnings, but whatever.
Fuck me that was an intense episode. I think this may turn out to be the Walking Dead's best series. All three episodes so far have knocked it out the park. And I am loving the narrative structure they've gone for. The way it all dovetails together is just great.
Spoilers below:
[COLOR="White"]I don't recall Rick looking that scared and vulnerable for a very long time, as he does at the end sitting in that camper van with the herd spilling out around it. With the beard gone and looking more like the old Rick, it seems to emphasise that vulnerabilty.
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I had a Walking Dead dream last night. The first I've had since I was in the nuthouse I think. Although back then it was probably a very bad idea to gorge on the boxsets alone in my room when I was already paranoid and terrified by my environment.
This one was rather yummy, involving Daryl.
Disturbingly yummy, as he was preparing to take advantage of a man who had betrayed them, been bitten but not yet turned. He figured he'd soon be an unperson, so why not? He reached across me to get the baby oil from my bedside table (no, I won't explain further) and then my stupid phone alarm went off because I had an early morning blood test.
Damnit!
No rape dream should be erotic of course.
And I would not sanction that behaviour in real life.
But somehow, in the dream, it was very masculine and sexy.
Sorry.
Well Jesus Harry christ. I finally got caught up on twd andcame here only to find arguments and discussions I can't read because some of us poor folks mostly get here from our phones and I can't be all highlighty text person. I purposely didn't come here before I caught up (thanks to brother going out of town and offering me his residence for a few days) because. ..hello...spoilers expected.
So fuck this. Maybe I can get a look on break at work tonight.
I need to gets me some of however everyone else manages.
Grumble
Ok, well, then I'll stay out of this thread when I am not up to date - Sundae should probably do the same. That way people can post spoilers without whiting out the text.
Do whatever everyone else thinks is right. I'm just mad at the world all the time and please take things I say with a grain of salt.
For another thread: I can't get out from under this depression.
As always, sorry.
I'm looking forward to reading your highlighted text later, dana, and discussing the show. One thing in particular. ..
So, all spoilers, all the time:
[COLOR="White"]Before I had my doubts that Glenn really died I actually yelled "NOOOOOOOOOOO."
They didn't do an In Memoriam on Talking Dead so...
I don't think he's dead. I loved the touch of hearing Glenn on the Walkie Talkie, and I felt like it was foreshadowing as I fondly remembered "hey dumbass, yeah you in the tank" when Rick and Glenn first met. So at the end of episode 6 it's up in the air who is asking for help on the talkie...and I don't care how the interwebz sez they've super-analyzed it and it can't be Glenn...I think it's Glenn. Though, maybe too soon for them to reveal that, don't we need to wait like 5 years until the second half of the season to find that out?
Maggie preggers makes me yawn, but whatever.
Merritt Wever, who plays Denise, played Zoey on Nurse Jackie. Loved her on that show. She was hilarious, I don't think she'll get to be really hilarious on TWD.
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I'm up to season 5 episode 14. I've been binge watching.
It's immersive foshizzel. I find myself wanting to purchase a katana or a dagger with a 10" blade.
I know I would probably get eaten in the first week of a zombie apocalypse, because I'm too old and fat to outrun the biters, but I can't help identifying with the characters and imagining who I would be like.
That's the wrong way to think about it. In the first week, you would join the stronger team and partake in the smorgasbord of the weak team that is running scared. mmm. Brains.
The stronger team is actually the Cellar.
All holed up in Elspode's friends' nuclear bunker.
GD walkers don't stand a chance.
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I'm not going into very much detail, but if you haven't watched the episode prior to the one I am going to post about, it will reveal something which will spoil a surprise. And a bit about this one too.
Okay.
I'm a bit weirded out by the last episode I watched. Season 6, episode 13 apparently (I had to look it up as I don't keep track).
Everything I have now read online - and I never pre-read reviews for this series, although I'm happy to read the graphic novels - has suggested that Carol is having a crisis of conscience. It's completely accepted by all reviewers and fans, and by an interview with Melissa McBride.
I think I must be far far worse at interpretation than I thought, because I swear the character was playing possum all the way through. I mean yes, some regret. But not that she was genuinely thinking about Jesus and atoning for her sins etc. And okay, it didn't stop her burning people alive. But these people wanted to kill her, to kill her pregnant friend, were not genuinely interested in a trade (what a SHAME! Alicia Witt would have been magical in Rick's group).
Carol killed a child with less compunction. She killed two people who might or might not have been ill.
Now she's fretting about killing the bad guys?!
I know it fits.
I completely accept that the cumulative effect and the responsibility and the horror could catch up on her, so I'm not criticising the writing. Or the acting.
I just feel bad for reading it so wrong.
Maybe all those people I killed really were quite nice human beings...
Everything I have now read online - and I never pre-read reviews for this series, although I'm happy to read the graphic novels - has suggested that Carol is having a crisis of conscience. It's completely accepted by all reviewers and fans, and by an interview with Melissa McBride.
I think I must be far far worse at interpretation than I thought, because I swear the character was playing possum all the way through. I mean yes, some regret.
She was playing possum. But she's also suffering a crisis of conscience, indicated by the scene with her kill tally notebook in the previous episode, and her discomfort with the idea of Maggie being too hard. An earlier Carol would have been all for that, but now she was sort of investing her moral center in Maggie.
Why didn't they just drive the truck down the tracks?
And furthermore... If Daryll can ride a motorcycle, he can drive a stick shift
And why are they sending out teams of 2 and 3 when there's a clear and present danger?
And the irresponsibility! Abraham letting Eugene be on his own, Daryl letting Rosita go on her own, and Daryl and Rosita not paying attention to Denise, when she wanders off the tracks.
I had a Walking Dead dream last night.
I dreamed a whole episode. No spoilers, although if you haven't watched this series so far, there may be some inadvertent ones.
Note - what follows has gaping plot holes, as I was actually dreaming, not writing a script.
Daryl decided that the bast way to sort out the friendly from the non-friendly living was to burn their faces, although leave them with medical supplies so they didn't die of it. That way no-one could turn up and be all pretendy-friendly. You got a burned face, you're with the bad guys.
Rick went along with idea, and added his own twist.
He got all of his group tattooed, so that they could be identified. Little hearts on their shoulders. At this point I was actually in the show, and was nearly discovered by the burnt-faces, when I was hiding in the tattoo parlour.
See, they'd captured Carole, realised her tattoo was recent and there must therefore be a reason for it - body modification not being top of the list when it comes to surviving, and gone to every one in the local area. They knew that if they found the right one, it would lead them back to Rick.
Also Carl had grown up. I mean really grown up. He was played by the same actor but was in his late twenties, and some kind of disease had made all his hair fall out. Like all of it, eyelashes, pubes etc. It had also given him a lumpy mis-shapen head, like a potato.
It's quite obvious where most of the above comes from. But I also woke up clutching a heart-shaped bead really hard, so I didn't drop it and alert the burnt-faces. Only to find I not only had an empty hand, but had dug my nails into my palm hard enough to leave marks. Tcha.
In some ways this was the weaker of the last few eps. Some of the decisions made and some of the dialogue felt a little off. Crowbarred in for plot purposes. Like the whole thing with Daryl and the stick shift. The only reason for that little exchange was to get in the stuff about Denise's background. It kind of jarred. And the other examples already listed too.
That said, for the most part it was still a really good episode. This series has been so good. The way they are playing around with narrative structure is really exciting and fresh. They've been doing interesting stuff all season.
And if Mellissa Mcbride doesn't get an emmy for this show there's no justice in the world. Her portrayal of Carol is brilliant. She is one of the best female characters I have ever seen in a tv drama.
Agreed. She's one of my favorites. She is somehow able to convey a person that is vulnerable, timid and uncertain, yet cold, fierce and unforgiving all in one moment. Very complex character. I doubt they wrote her that way. She is immersed in the role to the point where she has created herself.
Just finished watching Season 6.
I watched most of it when it came out in the UK, but missed the last episode (being in rehab and all that)
I have to stay strong re series 7, which probably means staying out of this thread. There is someone who wants me to watch it with him, but I have serious issues about associating with him. What a choice, eh?
Anyway, I have a rough idea of how things will go. I have the graphic novel compendium. And I know Ezekiel and Shiva are coming. OMG I can't wait.
Not a spoiler, it's in the trailers apparently.
But I've yet to hear him - I hope he either has a really deep Southern accent or a strong Caribbean one.