What do women want?
I'd like the cellar women to tell us (me) what they want.
Be as general or specific as you like, as personal or universal as you dare. Offer examples in aid of illustration, not as proof. None required.
Ultimately this may be a(nother) futile attempt at trying to understand women.
Well, you could probably start by working on the assumption that 'women' are not an homogeneous group. You can't 'understand women',any more than you can 'understand men', or 'understand Americans/Brits/the French'.
You can seek to understand individual people. But understanding women is just another way of saying understanding human beings.
Oh and just to add: what I really want, right now, is a PS4.
But I can't afford one.
What Dana said, except about the PS4.
But if you're having trouble understanding a specific woman my default suggestion is that she's playing games and I, personally, would get the hell out of there.
Or is this a Christmas gift question?
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I'd like the cellar women to tell us (me) what they want.
Be as general or specific as you like, as personal or universal as you dare. Offer examples in aid of illustration, not as proof. None required.
Ultimately this may be a(nother) futile attempt at trying to understand women.
Of course, you
do realize they will have changed their minds three times by the time the wind changes direction?
...any more than you can 'understand men'...
Dave Chappelle 'splained it pretty well:
Chivalry died when women started readin' the shit in all them magazines. They got too much advice about men from other women. And they don't know what the fuck they're talkin' about. I see them in the grocery store, says on the cover "100 Ways to Please Your Man" by some lady. Come on, man. Ain't no 100 ways. That list is four things long. Just suck his dick, play with his balls, fix him a sandwich, and don't talk so much and he'll be happy!
Yes, I know, that was wrong of him...he shoulda said 'sammich', instead of 'sandwich'.
Just a little humor ladies, don't all of ya shoot at me at once...:p:
I'd like some sex please.
Nothing fancy, just good kissing, a bit of fondling and some hokey-pokey.
Not from just anyone of course.
But I'm not lusting after a Hollywood stud or a magazine model.
Pecs and abs and washboard stomach and all that has never really been my thing.
Someone I can talk with, laugh with, who catches some of my cultural references and spins them back. Or doesn't, but lobs different ones at me.
I'm not relationship material. I'm bloody lousy at them. So I have given up.
But you'd think I could get a bit of fun and frolics for the asking, right?
Hmmmm.
Maybe I should start asking.
I'd like some sex please.
Thaaaat's m'girl.
Honest to God, if women would do that very thing,
ask for what they want, the world would be a much happier place.
I love intelligence in a man. I distrust excessively handsome men and avoid pretty ones completely. I love a man with skills - practical know-how, like how to manage a woodlot without killing yourself, how to build things and dry firewood and plant a successful garden and tend livestock and/or successfully hunt (preferably with a bow) - in addition to being intelligent. That's hot enough to melt cotton, silk, and wool.
I love a man who enjoys a good laugh, who isn't defensive and constantly assessing, judging, and finding fault. I love a man who's relaxed and secure enough to be himself, show his best traits and skills without fear (cooking, artistic skills/ability, etc. rank right up there along with the other practical skills).
I love a man who enjoys kissing - kissing can easily be more intimate than sex. But I also want the sex, and I want to give pleasure as well as receive it.
I don't want a man who plays games or says things he doesn't mean.
I've never understood the playing games thing and have failed miserably at dating because of it. I completely miss the signals that game-players send each other. If a woman is doing that, run for the hills.
So, that was personal and individual. But Dana's right - there's no such thing as 'women' as a class. We're all different. Taking time to get to know a woman before trying to bed her is probably the wisest approach ... you can skip the game-players and man-changers and wounded spirits who need saving if you take your time. Decide what YOU value, as in core values, and then get to know a woman well enough to be able to discern her core values and whether they match yours. Surface interests don't always have to match, if the core values are in harmony.
I want a man who is wicked smart, and completely 100% mellow. He pretty much can't ever get mad at anything ever.
I get that this is a hard demand to make of a human being, but I'm being honest here. I cannot handle even listening to a rant about someone else. Small complaints get to last about 5 seconds, and they need to be followed with attempts to solve the underlying problem. Mocking others is fine--required, even--but genuine negative energy has no place in my real life. I'm not a 'good listener.'
There's plenty of other stuff, like I want a guy who will eat super healthy with me and never be sad about it. But wicked smart and mellow are the two deal-breakers.
Clod: Can we safely assume your husband is wicked smart and mellow? Or at least close enough? :)
Dana and Limes are over thinking the question. Except the bit about the PS4.
Dave Chapelle is, for the most part, right.
Clod: Can we safely assume your husband is wicked smart and mellow? Or at least close enough?
He is wicked smart, and has learned to be mellow around me. I know he gets angry at work sometimes, but by the time he's come home he's able to tell me about it in a lighthearted manner. Learning to control it has worked out nicely because he has the option of bringing out the persona when an adversarial response is needed. When I know the auto mechanic is trying to screw me over, for example, but I don't have the balls to confront him, I send Mr. Clod in to do my dirty work. He's also the one who takes care of IEP meetings with school administrators, I won't even attend them.
I'm not offended in any way, but I don't think I'm the Dwellar that asked that question.
Well, you do resemble a rabbit, sort of. Not really, come to think of it.
Damn if I know what they want. I always end up with a broken heart and an empty wallet
women want Jesus, men want Mary.. Men Love the Women Women Respect the Men when you go any further than this you are treading very thin Ice an more than likely the "potential" relationship will not work out.
Damn if I know what they want. I always end up with a broken heart and an empty wallet
If I only had my own pay-per-view channel you'd have an empty wallet but a bulge in your pants...
Well, okay, not tonight. Jogging bottoms and sweatshirt turn you on?
women want Jesus, men want Mary.. Men Love the Women Women Respect the Men when you go any further than this you are treading very thin Ice an more than likely the "potential" relationship will not work out.
How bout if the women love the men and the men respect the women?
If I only had my own pay-per-view channel you'd have an empty wallet but a bulge in your pants...
Well, okay, not tonight. Jogging bottoms and sweatshirt turn you on?
Baby, you'd look great dressed in anything or nothing:blush:
How bout if the women love the men and the men respect the women? I am sure love and respect are 2 way streets however I am speaking if the initial contact...
Since I'm not a women and after being married 4 times and bunch of other live ins I have not a clue
Yeah, but with enough experience to know you don't have a clue. The men who think they do are headed for a rude awakening.
How bout if the women love the men and the men respect the women? I am sure love and respect are 2 way streets however I am speaking if the initial contact...
So, in the initial contact, men should love women and women should respect men?
Why?
It's the Biblical equivalent of "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus." It was a cultural given at the time that women would naturally be loving (that is, affectionate, caring, gentle) towards their husbands, but might not instinctively know how to respect and uphold their manliness (praise for accomplishments, trust in his problem-solving abilities, let him take the kids on a trip that seems too dangerous to her watchful eye.) At the same time, it was expected that men would know how to treat their wives like trusted business partners, but might not understand that sometimes she just needed a hug, or a thoughtful gift of flowers--i.e., "loving" her in a traditionally feminine way.
It was not that each gender should behave differently, but rather that each gender should remember to develop their less-instinctive side. Major gender stereotyping, yes, but nonetheless still true enough that a modern-day author could write a million-dollar bestseller on the same topic.
No one ever went broke underestimating [the taste] of the American public
So, in the initial contact, men should love women and women should respect men?
Why?
If a man is a man more than likely he could smash a woman face in with a single blow... personally "I WILL NOT" However if you don't respect fire it will burn you.
If a woman is a woman more than likely she could rip a mans heart out with her little pinky and make him feel like the biggest piece of toad dust... personally when I find a potential wife I will love her to the point she dose not want to rip my heart out and "hopefully" she will not.. been there done that.. but fire can generate great warmth and beauty and be use for very usefull things if you don't "abuse it"..
qcc??
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If a man is a man more than likely he could smash a woman face in with a single blow....
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If a man is a man he will do no such thing nor would it occur to him that he could, or might, or that a man who is a man would do anything of the sort.
Get back on the meds, JBK, and get this sort of crap out of your thinking.
It's the Biblical equivalent of "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus." It was a cultural given at the time that women would naturally be loving (that is, affectionate, caring, gentle) towards their husbands, but might not instinctively know how to respect and uphold their manliness (praise for accomplishments, trust in his problem-solving abilities, let him take the kids on a trip that seems too dangerous to her watchful eye.) At the same time, it was expected that men would know how to treat their wives like trusted business partners, but might not understand that sometimes she just needed a hug, or a thoughtful gift of flowers--i.e., "loving" her in a traditionally feminine way.
It was not that each gender should behave differently, but rather that each gender should remember to develop their less-instinctive side. Major gender stereotyping, yes, but nonetheless still true enough that a modern-day author could write a million-dollar bestseller on the same topic.
That's seems a generous reading to me. But I see what you mean.
If a man is a man he will do no such thing nor would it occur to him that he could, or might, or that a man who is a man would do anything of the sort.
Get back on the meds, JBK, and get this sort of crap out of your thinking
we have gays in military and women on the front lines now you HAVE to think of it this way. It's a 2 way street and if you "swirve" in my direction you might just get run off the road. Plus I'm on wretched Christmas...
JB might be on the right track in some ways. Maybe women need to be told what they want. This country started going down hill when women were given the right to vote and allowed to join the general work force. We'd be better off if they stayed barefoot and pregnant plus learned their role in society
Ha!
*slaps Big Sarge upside the head*
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/06/18/women-expected-on-front-lines-by-2016/2434911/
hey It's not like I didn't give credit to women to for "the ability to rip a mans heart out with there little pinky" I don't see anyone complaing about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JBK. :facepalm: Your explanation of why women should respect men is that 'a man who is a man more than likely ... could smash a woman face in with a single blow'. And 'if you don't respect fire it will burn you.'
Limey said it well - no real man would ever contemplate doing such a thing. This isn't about meds, it's about your messed-up attitude. You should stay away from women until you change your thinking.
OK so when these women and gays on the front lines are out painting there nails and some taliban rapest totally destroies them don't say you were not warned.. and I was reffering to the brut extreem of a mans ability to over power vs a womans brut ability to destroy///
Ha!
*slaps Big Sarge upside the head*
Dana - I want my slippers and a good drink as soon as I come home. Make sure you have fresh make up and high heels on. A man deserves his woman to look her best. I want my supper ready no more than 30 minutes after I get home. If you've done a good job, I'll let you watch me play my PS4.
yea at least big sarge knows how to set a good example.. thnks sarge
JB might be on the right track in some ways. Maybe women need to be told what they want. This country started going down hill when women were given the right to vote and allowed to join the general work force. We'd be better off if they stayed barefoot and pregnant plus learned their role in society
:facepalm:
and just to have you know I do stay away from women for the most part but not because I am worried about "smashing there face in" but because I am worried about "getting my heart ripped out"
See this is the thing I never understood about women being subjugated and then given freedom to decide what 'food' goes into your manly guts :p
A little almond flavouring on that sammich, dear?
@ JB: I'm not sure what your definition of a real man is...apparently it all boils down to being strong enough to roundhouse a chick. Not sure why you'd think gay men would be obsessing over nail polish, or somehow less capable than a 'real man' of delivering a killer punch. I've known some gay men that would seriously tilt your understanding of masculine strength.
You have some fucked up notions about men and women, in my opinion. You talk about how there must be love from the man and respect from the woman in the first instance. The only respect a man I do not know has any right to expect from me is the same that any individual, male or female, is due. Beyond that deeper respect must be earned. It should not be awarded by one entire gender to another entire gender, out of fear. A woman should respect a man because he deserves it, because he has earned it, because he is worthy of it. Not because to do otherwise is to invite violence and harm. That is not respect. That is an acceptance of unearned authority.
For a relationship to work both need to love and respect each other, in equal measure, with neither aspect taking precedence in either one. Love without respect is worthless, and respect without love is cold.
I am extremest Dana I usually make comments "to learn" not because I have some superior logic... it's called data mining... I've never even had a "real girlfriend" in my life I've had sex with about six women in my entire life and I would gladly leave them all and all there non-cents behind for that one who will teach me how to have a true love-ing realationship.. you have to think of it like conan the barbarian.. because I am raw and untapped.. I just know I don't want to marry a femenist..
Klyde the Barbarian.
I seriously doubt you'll ever find yourself in the position of being married to a feminist.
Klyde the Barbarian.
I seriously doubt you'll ever find yourself in the position of being married [strike]to a feminist[/strike].
that's just being stupid foot... I'm not an old dog I can be taught new tricks...
Don't take it that way, Klyde. I seriously doubt I'll ever find myself in the position of being married, (again) either.
I dunno I'd like to at-least try it once, I'm only 35 if I don't get married by the time I turn 45 I'll just adopt some kid to carry on my name.
there's a lid for every pot.
Keep the faith JBK.
JB - I was making some jokes in very poor taste. Never raise your hand to a woman or harm a child. Only the most vile or despicable man would do this. Treat a woman like a princess and if she is a good woman she will treat you like a prince.
Don't speak of hitting a woman again or you will lose me as a friend. This is very serious to me. Also, don't mock gays for wearing nail polish. Currently my toe nails are painted red and purple because my daughter likes to do it. Nail polish doesn't make you any less of a man. Also, I wear make up in public to cover the ruddy skin on part of my face. I even wear fake eyebrows at times. Just because I do things to make me look less of a freak in public and make my daughter happy doesn't make me any less of a man
Dana - I apologize for making the crack about having my supper made and watching me play PS4
I grew up in that kind of world.. I'm not saying it's right.. just a given fact.. nuff said.. sorry
JB - You have the power with the Lord's help to break that cycle of abuse. I believe in you
Dana - I apologize for making the crack about having my supper made and watching me play PS4
There was no offence taken, m'dear. I thought it was funny.
I dunno I'd like to at-least try it once, I'm only 35 if I don't get married by the time I turn 45 I'll just adopt some kid to carry on my name.
Let's hope the poor boy isn't gay.
'Cause, like, carrying on your name is the most important consideration when deciding to adopt 'some kid'.
And having the attitude of trying it "at least once" is a great way to start a successful marriage.:rolleyes:
Now Sundae, it's a little different for you. If I was over there I would have to give you a good spanking. ;)
Ahhh, Klyde the Barbarian. No one could ever accuse you of being boring.
Hey guys,
JB has a apologized and faces daily challenges we can't start to fathom. Let's give him a break (please).
Fair enough.
But I reserve the right to refer to JB as Klyde the Barbarian from now until I get bored with it.
JB - You have the power with the Lord's help to break that cycle of abuse. I believe in you
I believe the cycle has already been broken... in fact it has reversed to the point where I simply bow before women the only thing is is that I will not allow a woman to try and "rip my heart out" that's when it gets tricky and usually in the past if that dose start to happen I neutralize the situation and either remove myself from the situation or her from my roof. Farthest I've ever gone is pulling hair and that was just to remove her from my car or roof... did I go to far I don't think so because for one I am not going to let her call me a murder under my roof and for two I am not going to let her beat me down in my car and it's obviouis this happened because we we not in love which means the realationship was invalid to begin with and that's usually the problem... so you be the judge
What if you turn the POV around the other way ?
What are immediate thoughts upon meeting:
... a stay-at-home-dad at a company picnic
... a female industrial engineer wearing a hard hat (ChrisInHouston is exempt)
... your example is next
i WOULD DEFF like to marry an industrial engineer. HUGE learning experience right there...
UFC-Chick
Vs
Cookie Boy??
Stripper
Vs
Unsuspecting College Student??
Corprate Extortionist
Vs
Harmless Painter Poet
That's my exe reality
he just dosen't like my potty mouth.. and that's why my teeth are rotting out but hey George Washington Had wooden teeth didn't he..
he just dosen't like my potty mouth ...
You do talk shitty sometimes.