Acquitted killer George Zimmerman
This man deserves his own thread because we have not heard the last of him.
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In Florida, George Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with
felony aggravated assault, misdemeanor battery and misdemeanor criminal mischief.
CBS Miami
11/18/13
George Zimmerman Arrested For Aggravated Assault
MIAMI (CBSMiami) – The man acquitted in the shooting death
of unarmed Miami Gardens teen Trayvon Martin is in trouble with the law again.
George Zimmerman was arrested at approximately 1 p.m. Monday,
according to the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office, whose deputies responded
to a disturbance call in Apopka in Central Florida.
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he is a prime example of "you can't fix stoopid"
The lesson here is that dead men tell no tales. He was successful when he killed his victim and was not successful when he let his victim live to speak against him.
I say we let him fade away into obscurity. Why is this latest assault news? Only, ONLY because of the previous one.
The lesson here is that dead men tell no tales. He was successful when he killed his victim and was not successful when he let his victim live to speak against him.
ORLY? Are you saying he's already been convicted on the recent charges? Last I read, he was still eligible for bond. IIRC, he was arrested for the previous incident and he was arrested for this latest incident. He didn't avoid being arrested again. How does that support your conclusion that there's a difference in his being "successful" based upon whether or not an alleged victim lived?
Tell me you didn't take what Glatt said literally. Please.:facepalm:
I am Literally Disappointed ...
You're just mad that a new thread was started instead of this going in the short fat Latino thread.
:p
Between JBKlyde and Lamplighter, I'm getting used to it. : )))
If he's guilty of this crime (and it seems a lot less controversial), i hope he does some jail time in a cell full of lonely black men.
George Zimmerman could share a cell with OJ Simpson.
I say we let him fade away into obscurity. Why is this latest assault news? Only, ONLY because of the previous one.
Ditto.
... In Florida, George Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with
felony aggravated assault, misdemeanor battery and misdemeanor criminal mischief. ...
Should be obvious from his mug shot that he's no
lady killer. :bolt:
Should be obvious from his mug shot that he's no lady killer.
Some women love bad boys. Even Charles Manson is to marry his 25-year-old girlfriend.
Is a puzzlement...
Orlando Sentinel
Jeff Weiner,
November 26, 2013
George Zimmerman drops public defender, asks for return of knife & phones
Less than a week after he requested to be declared indigent, citing millions in debts,
George Zimmerman swapped his public defender in his domestic violence case for a private attorney,
his former lawyer confirmed.
Zimmerman was represented by the 18th Judicial Circuit Public Defender's Office
during a court appearance on Tuesday, the day after his domestic violence arrest.
He was granted $9,000 bail and bonded out that day.
However, Zimmerman has now elected to drop the Public Defender's Office
and hire a south Florida private criminal defense attorney, Jayne Weintraub,
to represent him, said his former public defender, Jeff Dowdy.
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[COLOR="DarkRed"]It's unclear how Zimmerman will afford private representation.
In indigence paperwork last week, Zimmerman claimed to have $144,
and owe $2.5 million in debt.[/COLOR]
Weintraub didn't return a call seeking comment.
well, we're talking about Weintraub now, aren't we? That's how she's getting paid. Notoriety.
[SIZE="5"]George Zimmerman's girlfriend recants
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Samantha Scheibe, who refers to Zimmerman as her "boyfriend," said in a sworn statement obtained by NBC News that she felt intimidated when she was questioned by police about the Nov. 18 incident.
"I believe that the police misinterpreted me and that I may have misspoken about certain facts in my statement to the police. I do not feel that the arrest report accurately recounts what happened," she said.
"I am not afraid of George in any manner and I want to be with him," Scheibe stated.
:lol2:
O J Simpson also needs a girlfriend.
Most victims of domestic violence defend or deny the actions of their abuser.
No, that's just the way domestic violence works.
From the conclusion to a study on why women withdraw domestic abuse charges:
In conclusion, this research has shown that victims of domestic violence often do not proceed with prosecuting their abuser because of fear. This can take the form of fear for themselves,fear for their families and fear from the perpetrator’s family and friends. In fact, the victims stated that fear colours their experience of the entire process from making their first statement to the police to appearing in open court.
This research has shown that on occasions, some perpetrators can threaten or assault the victim at any stage of the process with little or no consequence. Indeed all of the women interviewed for this study reported that their abuser often breached bail conditions that prohibited contact and threatened them right up to the moment that they appeared in court or dropped the charges. A final and
perhaps most worrying belief held by the victims was that regardless of sentence, their abuser would exact a violent revenge at some time in the future. This belief was often based on personal experience of where even custody did little except delay the inevitable.
This research has demonstrated that in the rare occasions when a prosecution does take place, it is likely to occur when the abuse becomes so severe that the victim is in genuine fear for their own life (or the life of a family member). In cases such as these, it is possible that this will be the first time that the perpetrator has been formally tried, and is therefore highly unlikely to be given a sentence that is commensurate with the damage that has been caused
http://www.devon.gov.uk/domviolence_report.pdf
From a CPS report for essex:
Recent analysis of failed domestic violence cases in Essex shows a very clear picture. Where the CPS can get a case to court, the overwhelming majority of defendants plead guilty, with only a small proportion electing for a trial. Where there are trials, most prosecutions succeed. But the critical problem is persuading victims not to withdraw from the process along the way either by retracting, refusing to give evidence or withdrawing support for the case.
On average it is said that victims of domestic abuse will experience around 35 incidents before reporting to the police. Many, having reported the situation then withdraw. The cases in the study above were those which went right through to an arrest and charge. There is another layer of victims who withdraw before the arrest and charge (a panicked 999 call is made by the victim, by the time the police arrive on the scene the victim, whether sporting signs of injury or not, then says it was a misunderstanding or something like that.
Not saying this is the case here. But offering her withdrawal as evidence against the assault taking place is shaky at best. Her responses fit very comfortably into a well-established pattern of behaviour for victims of domestic violence.
Recognising that doesn't make someone 'sheeple'. It just means they know the wider context.
You, on the other hand, seem to be doing a fine job of following the pro-zimmerman media 'bellweather' on this. Altogether now: baaaaaaa.
Dana, not only fear of reprisal, but fear of the future because the lifestyle/living conditions of the kids, and themselves, has been completely dependent on the perp.
Florida prosecutors said Wednesday that they would not file domestic violence charges
against George Zimmerman after his girlfriend told police he had pointed a shotgun at her three weeks ago.
The move comes two days after Zimmerman submitted an affidavit from Samantha Scheibe
stating she did not want "my boyfriend" charged with aggravated assault, battery and criminal mischief.
She said investigators had misinterpreted her statements about the incident Nov. 18
at a home in Apopka, Seminole County, that she shared with Zimmerman.
"I want to be with George," Scheibe, 27, said in the affidavit she signed Friday.
Till next time...
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No, that's just the way domestic violence works. ...
What do you mean "No" when you’re your own quote backs my statement:
In conclusion, this research has shown that victims of domestic violence often do not proceed with prosecuting their abuser because of fear. ...
What do you think sheeple talk is? It's for sheeple, by sheeple, to excuse other sheeple who have allowed their courses of action to be dictated by
fear. The sheeple defense is unacceptable making even the recognition of a wider context sheeple talk. You then proceed to post the obvious apparently just to see yourself in print. Dipsheep.
[COLOR="Silver"]That's was good, "dipsheep", I'll have to remember to use that again. : )))[/COLOR]
Till next time....
Zimmerman is not an honorable person. He hasn't shown himself to be a cold blooded killer; but, he has demonstrated a lack of altruistic motives for his actions which will cause him to spiral downward. Already he can't see the light at the end of the tunnel because he's so far in debt from legal expenses. That alone can ruin any serious relationships he enters. He now presents a defeatist attitude heading towards reckless abandon. The more times he gets away with bad behavior, the bolder he'll become and the sooner he'll do himself in. Shouldn't be too much longer unless he wins the lottery or something.
So, by your analysis, the victims of domestic abuse who do not press charges against their abusive partners are...sheeple.
You are a piece of work sexobon.
...but, he has demonstrated a lack of altruistic motives for his actions...
...Shouldn't be too much longer unless he wins the lottery or something.
That is simplistic thinking... it has nothing to do with $
...and having "altruistic motives", or not, is a red herring
It seems that Zimmerman has learned that he can get away with just about anything, so he is running with it.
... the victims of domestic abuse who do not press charges against their abusive partners are...sheeple. ...
Collaborator also works.
... That is simplistic thinking... it has nothing to do with $ ...and having "altruistic motives", or not, is a red herring
Defendants' motives and the amount of money they have to spend on defense both factor into judicial outcomes.
Defendants' motives and the amount of money they have to spend on defense both factor into judicial outcomes.
Judicial outcomes are not the most important issue compared
with who gets killed or wounded or intimidated by this man.
Till next time...
Tell that to his girlfriend, the enabler, and to the sheeple who excuse her behavior. Preaching to the choir seems to be all you're good for these days old man.
deja vu...
George Zimmerman arrested in Lake Mary.
Orlando Sentinel
Gal Tziperman Lotan
Jan 10, 2015
George Zimmerman was arrested and charged with aggravated assault
in Lake Mary Friday night, a Seminole County Sheriff's spokeswoman said.
Zimmerman, 31, was booked into the John E. Polk Correctional Facility about 9:45 p.m. Friday
where he was being held without bond, sheriff's spokeswoman Kim Cannaday said in a statement.
Zimmerman is scheduled for a first appearance in court at about 9 a.m. Saturday.
More information about the arrest was not immediately available.
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Too bad there's no "three strikes" law that would apply to him.
His girlfriend alleges he threw a wine bottle at her several days ago while she was staying in his home.
... bond was set at $5,000 ...
... Prosecutors questioned whether substance abuse treatment was needed, but the judge said that didn't seem to be a factor. ...
... Zimmerman ... appeared calm during the brief hearing. At one point, he laughed and joked with an officer as he signed paperwork. ...
When is this guy going to learn not to live with his groupies. You fuck groupies, you don't live with them. Has he learned nothing from Bill Cosby?
But if even one drop of good wine was spilled, they should throw the book at him.
But if even one drop of good wine was spilled, they should throw the book at him.
Seriously. Not that Yellowtail crap. Why can't Yellowtail make a cork that is possible to get out without killing yourself? I even bought a pussy wine opener to use instead of my 'key' and I can barely open it. That's probably what happened: he got upset trying to open a bottle of freaking Yellowtail Shiraz.
Oh, what were we talking about?
His girlfriend alleges he threw a wine bottle at her several days ago while she was staying in his home.
Several days ago... at his house... did they arrest him on her say so... is this a he said/she said? :eyebrow:
You would assume that after having dodged a bullet over the circus that was the Trayvon Martin case, that he would want to lay low, stay under the radar. Appears all it did was make him feel as if he can do whatever he wants and not get into trouble.
Maybe this thread should be re-named:
"Teflon killer George Zimmerman"
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS - Sasha Goldstein - January 30, 2015
George Zimmerman won’t face charges in Florida assault case after woman recants
The notorious 31-year-old will avoid prosecution after the victim alleged
Zimmerman threw a wine bottle at her and broke her cell phone during a Jan. 5 fight.
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Authorities in Lake Mary, Florida, say there is no other evidence
but the woman's testimony and thus no charges can be pursued. [/COLOR]...
A cop on patrol in the Orlando suburb heard glass break and saw the woman
peel out of Zimmerman’s driveway just before midnight January 5 without her headlights on.
The woman’s car was filled with her belongings, and police said she “seemed very emotional and upset.”
“She advised that she had been in a verbal altercation over a painting,
with George Zimmerman and that Zimmerman threw a bottle of wine in her direction
when she attempted to leave,” the offense report reads.
“...Zimmerman threw the cell phone on the ground, breaking it.”
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Authorities said that in the weeks since, the victim has been uncooperative. When the woman
was scheduled to meet with the prosecutor’s office, she refused, authorities said.
The victim denied that Mr. Zimmerman threw a bottle at her and
stated that she was never in fear of the Defendant.
She also made it clear that she did not want to proceed
with the case,” the prosecutor said in a statement.
“A lack of eyewitnesses or other corroborating evidence to dispute
her version of the incident also contributed to the decision.”<snip>
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS - Sasha Goldstein - January 30, 2015
George Zimmerman won’t face charges in Florida assault case after woman decants
... police said ... “She advised that she had been in a verbal altercation over a painting, with George Zimmerman and that Zimmerman threw a bottle of wine in her direction ...” ...
Well there you go. George was just tossing her a bottle of wine to be decanted. Some wines are better if allowed to breath before serving. Perhaps it was a Yellowtail Shiraz.
Yep. Because domestic violence victims so rarely recant their accusations.
"in her direction "
Perspective matters. People can be vindictive. Maybe she is a victim of this asshat. Maybe she just wanted her 15 minutes of fame and whatever money she could get from it. Maybe shes as big an asshat as he.
Maybe ... ... ... Benghaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Note to women: do not, I repeat, do NOT date this man. What's true and isn't true is irrelevant at this point. He's bad news. There are other fish in the sea. You do not need a man that badly to risk what might or might not have occurred and what might or might not occur in the future. You cannot 'fix' him with the depths of your love. You kind of deserve what you get if, after all the hoopla, you still find the need to go out with him. Are you awestruck by his incredible good looks? Do you get pulled in by his obvious savoir faire? Is he just so charming that you can't say no?* Stop. Do not proceed. Turn around. Go back.
This has been a Public Service Announcement from Stop Being Stupid, a non-profit organization started and run by women who are damn tired of you morons making us look bad.
*obligatory sarcasm
Stop Being Stupid... brilliant.
Here's another lady that needs to join the S.B.S. club...
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Police: Lance Armstrong hit parked cars, had girlfriend take the blame
The week.com 2/3/15
How chivalrous! Aspen police say that former pro cyclist Lance Armstrong
hit two parked cars while driving his SUV, and let his girlfriend Anna Hansen take the fall.
On Dec. 28, Hansen told a homeowner that she hit the two cars parked in front of his house
with her vehicle, the Aspen Daily News reports. She gave him her contact information
but did not file a police report, and Hansen was cited for failing to report an accident
and exceeding safe speed for conditions.
That makes sense to me, though. A famous person gets in a fender-bender, and people start getting all sorts of ideas about suing for extra injuries, making a press spectacle out of it, etc. It's a civil crime, and a tiny one at that, it's not like she was going to take jail time for him.
Also, failing to report an accident in itself is a crime? Like when the other driver and I just exchange insurance information and go along our way, that's not good enough?
If the damage is estimated to be above a certain amount, you are supposed to report it. And last I saw, that amount was so low, that most accidents exceed it by far. Something like $400.
YMMV
Hmmmm..... the details are a bit more complex
Here is 1:
Police were called to West Francis Street on Dec. 29 by a homeowner
who said he was the victim of a hit-and-run accident the night before,
according to a report by Aspen police detective Rick Magnuson.
and other paragraphs
He's always been a beady-eyed fake. Referring to my last post in this thread, I wouldn't date Lance, either. ;) Come on! Show me the money so I don't have to work? Not that he would ever date me even if I wanted... :lol:
Though I do think there are opportunists, I think a lesser opportunistic action is to get upset about a hit and run than, say, cheating and lying and faking your entire life.
Sure, if it turns out it really was a hit-and-run then that's different. And I wouldn't take the blame for Lance specifically, I'm only saying I'd take the hit for the person I love if HE were famous.
Yeah, it doesn't sound like they were trying to avoid responsibility, just headlines.
But the real point is they were both lying.
We already know the character of Lance Armstrong.
But she was willing to take the blame for something she did not do.
That's what qualifies her for membership in the S.B.S club
If that's the point, so what? Nobody was harmed, nobody was cheated except maybe the tabloids. I can see why she would try to protect the family, her children, herself, knowing they would take financial responsibility to fix the damage.
I can readily believe she/they didn't know about the must report to police law. That's an unusual law, most police departments aren't interested unless somebody is hurt, they're blocking traffic, or there's damage to a donut shop.
And one more time...
George Zimmerman involved in Florida shooting
Fox News - ‎25 minutes ago‎
According to WESH, the shooting involved two men and Zimmerman suffered a minor gunshot wound and was taken to a local hospital.
"The injuries are not serious," Lake Mary Deputy Police Chief Colin Morgan said.
"I don't know exactly what precipitated it, but another motorist pulled up alongside him and fired a shot at him," Zimmerman's attorney Don West said. "I believe that the window of the vehicle was broken. As I understand it he was shot through the passenger window and the bullet narrowly missed his head and lodged the roof."
Morgan said the other man reportedly has been involved in other cases with Zimmerman in the past.
He added that Zimmerman will be brought to the police station when he leaves the hospital.
[SIZE="3"]Florida man involved in latest altercation with George Zimmerman is arrested[/SIZE]
... Matthew Apperson, 35, turned himself in Friday evening, police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said.
Apperson was charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and firing a deadly missile into an occupied conveyance.
"After conducting numerous interviews throughout the week, detectives determined that Mr. Apperson did intentionally fire his weapon into the vehicle occupied by George Zimmerman without provocation," Gillett said in a statement. ...
Not to sound like a vigilante or anything but doesn't George Zimmerman, himself, constitute provocation?
Every bit as much as Trayvon Martin did.
That was my thought.
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1) Did the girlfriend of Trayvon Martin actually refuse to testify in court, and did another woman go to court pretending to be his girlfriend, to give damning testimony about the phone conversation they had just before Martin was killed?
~ AND ~
2) Are we racist for being skeptical of The Narrative(TM), rather than just accepting it and the moral lessons it is supposed to teach?
Brilliant hour of podcast would have you answering 1) "Probably" and 2) "No" -- but hey, it's an hour, I understand. I'm just saying, very interesting stuff.
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Twilight Zone script: The right guy died that night.
That's a pretty fucked up thing to say.
Even in the most charitable explanation of the whole thing, dipshit is still responsible for the combination of carrying deadly force and personally seeking out the situation on foot. Especially when he was explicitly told not to by the dispatcher.
I'm hoping the twilight Zone reference = plot twist. :eyebrow:
I'm hoping the twilight Zone reference = plot twist. :eyebrow:
I hoped that would be obvious.
Undertoad has it right, but I was disappointed, not surprised, by the one before.