Abolish the DHS?

ZenGum • Jul 15, 2013 11:05 pm
Some pinko-commie-islamo-liberal at Bloomberg Newsweek reckons the US ought to abolish the department of homeland security.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-07-15/the-case-for-abolishing-the-dhs


Beyond the waste of money and the overregulation, the expansion of the homeland security state has created unnecessary fear among a population that should be able to trust its government to send accurate signals about risk.


Sounds like a darn good idea, to me.
Aliantha • Jul 16, 2013 12:16 am
Yes but if the US government stops spying on the citizens, that'll just leave the Russians, and we all know what those guys are like!
glatt • Jul 16, 2013 8:31 am
DHS has many branches and not all should be abolished.

The Coast Guard is probably worth its budget, for example.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 16, 2013 12:35 pm
glatt;870506 wrote:
DHS has many branches and not all should be abolished.

The Coast Guard is probably worth its budget, for example.

Damn right, and wildfire smoke jumpers, and FEMA, for all it's warts is needed.
Clodfobble • Jul 16, 2013 12:43 pm
But those things existed before they were put under the umbrella of DHS. They could just be moved back to their old departments.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 16, 2013 12:52 pm
Yes, but I didn't see Bloomberg or Zen propose that. They were all like kill it, acting like... well, Homeland security. ;)
Gravdigr • Jul 16, 2013 5:28 pm
I believe the U.S. gubmint is about two steps from going full jihad on every right we have.

You know, just to keep us [Strike]in line[/Strike] safe.
ZenGum • Jul 16, 2013 8:46 pm
Clodfobble;870522 wrote:
But those things existed before they were put under the umbrella of DHS. They could just be moved back to their old departments.


That is in fact the proposal from Bloomberg. Restore the necessary bits to their pre-War-on-Terror forms, and massively trim back the rest, in accordance with evidence based assessment of risk and effectiveness.

Grav, you jut got yourself on The List.
BigV • Jul 19, 2013 9:36 pm
Gravdigr;870542 wrote:
I believe the U.S. gubmint is about two steps from going full jihad on every right we have.

You know, just to keep us [Strike]in line[/Strike] safe.


Could you please explain what you mean by "jihad"?

The greater struggle, the lesser struggle? Holy war? Military action?
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