pithy codification

henry quirk • Jun 5, 2013 10:14 am
I don't spend a lot of time codifying principles to transmit to the six-year old Great BEAST of the Apocalypse but three I repeat often...


-Make do with what you got.

Example: the toy in your hand is pretty much the same as the new and improved model advertised on the TV...make do with what you got, BEAST!


-Be patient.

Example: yes, we're goin' to the park, but not for another hour...be patient, BEAST!


-Don't overcomplicate it.

Example: no, you don't need the hand-truck to move one, empty, box...don't overcomplicate it, BEAST!


The above three are, it seems, codifications bubbling up from natural circumstances that happen often with me and the BEAST.

Any of you parents/caretakers have similar, naturally occurring, codifications, peculiar to your circumstances?
Lamplighter • Jun 5, 2013 10:25 am
No one said "Life is Fair"
henry quirk • Jun 5, 2013 10:32 am
Yeah, that's a good one...the BEAST seems to have a natural handle on that one so I don't have to say it much (not like the three listed above, anyway).
glatt • Jun 5, 2013 11:15 am
Don't leave clutter where you might trip over it. Seriously. It's lazy and dangerous. Especially get that crap off the stairs. BEAST!

not pithy enough?
jimhelm • Jun 5, 2013 12:24 pm
Keep your attention in the present moment. BREAST!
henry quirk • Jun 5, 2013 12:29 pm
Glatt,

I'd say, pick up your mess, BEAST!


Jim,

I'd say, pay attention, BEAST (or, pay attention to the BREAST!)!
monster • Jun 5, 2013 11:36 pm
What exactly are you trying to achieve?

henry quirk;867153 wrote:
I don't spend a lot of time codifying principles to transmit to the six-year old Great BEAST of the Apocalypse but three I repeat often...


-Make do with what you got.

Example: the toy in your hand is pretty much the same as the new and improved model advertised on the TV...make do with what you got, BEAST!

What can we do to make what you have even better than the "new and improved" version you (don't) see on TV (because we hippies don't watch shit like that)?


-Be patient.

Example: yes, we're goin' to the park, but not for another hour...be patient, BEAST!

"this is what we have to do before we go to the park. it's going to be a while -would you like to make a checklist of the shit we have to get done first/why don't you get lost in a book and we can set an alarm so you know when it's time to stop reading and go."


-Don't overcomplicate it.

Example: no, you don't need the hand-truck to move one, empty, box...don't overcomplicate it, BEAST!



using the handtruck is fun. Is it hurting anyone? BE PATIENT, guardian ;)


The above three are, it seems, codifications bubbling up from natural circumstances that happen often with me and the BEAST.

Any of you parents/caretakers have similar, naturally occurring, codifications, peculiar to your circumstances?


Life isn't fair is the only one you need.

Other than that, you need tenets for guardians, not kids.

1) Chill FFS. You were a kid once, you made it, it can't be all that hard
2) They learn nothing if you tell the what to do and/or how to do it ...unless they ask
glatt • Jun 6, 2013 8:26 am
monster;867186 wrote:

2) They learn nothing if you tell the what to do and/or how to do it ...unless they ask


I struggle with this one.
henry quirk • Jun 6, 2013 9:52 am
"What exactly are you trying to achieve?"

Conversation rather than debate (for a change).

Sure as shit wasn't lookin' for a lecture.

*shrug*
infinite monkey • Jun 6, 2013 11:01 am
That's what I thought too.

You should've started a thread about having blue stripes on pink submarines and how that made you feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel. Or something equally boring as shit.

It's getting so I can't even hate the world in peace. :right:
henry quirk • Jun 6, 2013 11:11 am
"...blue stripes on pink submarines and how that made you feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel..."

HA!
Clodfobble • Jun 6, 2013 12:52 pm
"Fair means everyone gets what's appropriate, not everyone gets the same thing."

"You have to tell your side of the story calmly, or no one will listen."
Ocean's Edge • Jun 6, 2013 1:09 pm
"Our goal as a parent is to give life to our children's learning--to instruct, to teach, to help them develop self-discipline--an o rdering of the self from the inside, not imposition from the outside. Any technique that does not give life to a child's learning and leave a child's dignity intact cannot be called discipline--it is punishment, no matter what language it is clothed in."

Barbara Coloroso
(the only parenting advice I ever give or recommend)

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henry quirk • Jun 6, 2013 1:20 pm
Clod,

I philosophically disagree with the *first, but the second is nice...I'd say, 'calm down, use your words'.


Ocean,

The quote is good...if I were talkin' to myself (in a mirror), I'd say, 'don't cut the brush for him, teach the BEAST how to use the machete, then hand it over to him'.









*'fair' is a rainbow...pretty and inspiring, but just light and mist...dazzles the eye, wets the skin and then it's over
Ocean's Edge • Jun 6, 2013 1:23 pm
age appropriately of course

*grins* 6 yr olds and machetes could be a bad choice - falls under the "illegal, immoral, or dangerous" categories of parental intervention, depending on the child's skill levels
henry quirk • Jun 6, 2013 2:02 pm
Well, in the case of...

'don't cut the brush for him, teach the BEAST how to use the machete, then hand it over to him'

...that would be a metaphorical sumthin' I’d say to 'me'.
Clodfobble • Jun 6, 2013 2:03 pm
henry quirk wrote:
I'd say, 'calm down, use your words'.


Ah, but the lesson goes deeper than that. It's not about using words, it's about how the words are delivered. It doesn't matter if you are right and the other guy is wrong, if your delivery is off-putting, and his is not, no one will listen to you. (This is, however, a lesson you are not always well-versed in yourself, so I'm not surprised it wasn't the first interpretation your mind leapt to. ;))
henry quirk • Jun 6, 2013 2:11 pm
"the lesson goes deeper than that"

Yeah, I get that...so will he (once he gets beyond six years of age).

Right now: gotta go with what works.

#

"This is, however, a lesson you are not always well-versed in yourself"

Nice.

:neutral:
BigV • Jun 6, 2013 2:14 pm
hq, what do you mean when you use the word "BEAST" in these posts?
henry quirk • Jun 6, 2013 2:18 pm
The BEAST is my nephew (also known as Monkey, Sir Monka-Monk, and the Monkey King).

I live with him...I'm one of his caretakers.
glatt • Jun 6, 2013 2:38 pm
henry quirk;867292 wrote:
also known as Monkey, Sir Monka-Monk, and the Monkey King.


Funny.

We referred to our as "the chicken" when she was an infant. Just like the logic question about crossing the stream with the grain, the fox, and the chicken. You pretty much always have to have the chicken with you.
infinite monkey • Jun 6, 2013 2:41 pm
that's great!

"honey, can you pick up the chicken on the way home?" :)
infinite monkey • Jun 6, 2013 2:57 pm
sigh.

i think an uncle who steps up to the plate is admirable.

perhaps this isn't the thread for personal jabs...they seem rooted in insecurity when placed here.

but i'm angry at the world so anything i post should be taken with grains of salt.
monster • Jun 6, 2013 3:26 pm
Sorry mybad for not following your rules and expectations. oh and fuck you, quenry.
infinite monkey • Jun 6, 2013 3:37 pm
So...I'm not a parent, but i will say that my brothers and their spouses are damn good ones.

what my dad told me: hey, they can kill you, but they can't eat you.

mom was more subtle, but besides the joking that i could marry a rich guy as easily as i could a poor one (knowing i'm a sucker for starving artist types) she mostly was pithy about independence and self-sufficiency. And she learned those values from my grandma.
henry quirk • Jun 6, 2013 4:51 pm
"Sorry mybad for not following your rules and expectations."

Hey, no worries...wouldn’t want you to have a stroke about it.

#

"oh and fuck you, quenry."

That's 'Henry', you silly cunt.
henry quirk • Jun 6, 2013 4:52 pm
"the chicken"

HA!

I like that... ;)
henry quirk • Jun 6, 2013 4:52 pm
Hey, IM,

Save your energy for the folks who matter... ;)
greenlief • Jul 3, 2013 5:34 pm
Henry, if you are the same person who used to post online about Stirner under the email address [emaildeleted], could you please contact me at: [emaildeleted] when you get a chance?
henry quirk • Jul 11, 2013 1:53 pm
As you can: check yer g-box.