Between Philly and Pittsburgh is God's Land

You read that right, PA has more religious fanatics than anywhere else.
Case in point.
Keep in mind poll results are heavily dependent on how the questions were asked, by whom, and of whom, but I think this is pretty close.

Some rather strange "percentages" in the top right corner, there.

They were allowed more than one answer.

As a statistical method, that is sometimes appropriate, but here, the options seem mutually logically exclusive. How can one believe in Evolution AND creation?

My father does.
He believes God created Life, because nothing can come from nothing.
But living in the UK, where belief in evolution is the norm, he tempers this with the belief that it was all part of God's design.

He's not completely wedded to the Old Testament.
Apart from the gays being degenerates.
He manages to ignore the dietary laws though, because thse were just for the Jews.

I grew up in that zone between Philly and Pittsburgh. It was pretty annoying.

ZenGum;863075 wrote:

How can one believe in Evolution AND creation?

Simple. Creationism is evolution explains to those who had not yet learned basic concepts. Those parables concepts similar to what Dr Seuss also taught children in "Cat in the Hat". As early science books (ie Bible) were replaced by later editions, then more of god's laws were learned. Taught to us by so many of god's prophets (ie Newton, Darwin, Einstein, etc) So many of god's laws have now been revealed that we had to break god's laws up into subjects - physics, chemistry, law, geometry, mechanics, calculus, biology, etc.

Unfortunately, many have not learned beyond the first printing. Are told and only understand science as it was known in prehistoric times.

Furthermore, top management can enrich itself by brainwashing these people. By claiming that no later additions exist. Keeping these people naive means scam artists, masking as ministers and clergy, can even own fleets of private jets.

A friend, who made a living doing scam phone calls, loved calling the most religious. They would virtually believe everything he told them. Some people remain that easily brainwashed.

Sundae;863077 wrote:

My father does.
He believes God created Life, because nothing can come from nothing.
But living in the UK, where belief in evolution is the norm, he tempers this with the belief that it was all part of God's design.

I think that's a pretty common solution among Christians here.
God created life. Evolution explains how. No problem.

I'm not knocking it. He's decent, rational, compassionate.
[COLOR="White"]Apart from the gays.[/COLOR]

Sundae;863136 wrote:

He's decent, rational, compassionate.

I thought god was a She? However those who are not sexist called god an It.

Think about it. Could you also have a Cousin It? And so we have a family of Man. One part was the Adaam's family.

Would you worship your Cousin It?

Neither am I, it works well for millions.

Well then what's between the moon and New York City?

I'm not sure.
But there's nothing you can do about it.

I could fall in love!

Sorry, that's the best that I can do.

Thanks for the offer and all, but I think I'll stick to the complementary nuts ;)

they are a really polite lot around here aren't they? :D

Infi knows if she was complimentary I'd just gobble her up.
I know where she lives....

Oops, too far...?

Ocean's Edge;863159 wrote:

they are a really polite lot around here aren't they? :D

meh...

for me, reading tw is so exhausting I haven't the strength to do more.

Well ...

We are the only colony that was founded on the principle of true religious freedom and diversity, unlike Maryland and Rhode Island which were for segregating the papists ...

BigV;863719 wrote:

meh...

for me, reading tw is so exhausting I haven't the strength to do more.

Takes the fight right out of ya, doesn't it. That's the Quaker way. :haha:

That's a fucked up survey. They asked science teachers if they believed in creationism.

That, by itself fucks the survey for me. Fucks it hard.

It also continues to offend me when anyone who believes in God is automatically a fanatic.

Why does asking science teachers fuck the survey? That's what they were investigating, how science teachers feel, and how it affects what they teach.

wolf;863749 wrote:

We are the only colony that was founded on the principle of true religious freedom and diversity...

Either I mistake your shape and making quite...
You mean America?
The country which surveys suggest* would never elect an atheist?
That fear Islamists just because of their religion? That a minor but noisy minority had an issue with JFK purely on the grounds of his Catholicism?

The UK can't be totally proud of its history, but I think more recently we've been better at tolerance. Perhaps because although we have a state religion it's based on scones and afternoon sherry and more tea Vicar?

xoxoxoBruce;863755 wrote:

That's the Quaker way. :haha:

Can't tell you yet, but I'm working on it.

Gravdigr;863856 wrote:

That's a fucked up survey. They asked science teachers if they believed in creationism.
That, by itself fucks the survey for me. Fucks it hard.

xoxoxoBruce;863859 wrote:

Why does asking science teachers fuck the survey?

I'm just liking all the comments about fucking. May I have some please?

* never trust a survey. But this thread is about surveys.

Sundae wrote:

Either I mistake your shape and making quite...
You mean America?
The country which surveys suggest* would never elect an atheist?
That fear Islamists just because of their religion? That a minor but noisy minority had an issue with JFK purely on the grounds of his Catholicism?

She meant Pennsylvania, as opposed to the other 12 original colonies in America.

I had a feeling I read it wrong.
'pologies.

FTR you (as a country) could still do with more scones and tea. And sherry.

Yeah Pennsylvania was the actual religious freedom colony. If you look at New England it was about the right of oppressed religious to in turn oppress. Talk about founding myths.

I always liked Georgia: nothing to do with God, everything to do with running away from your crippling financial debts in the Old World.

That fear Islamists just because of their religion?

That's an incredibly moronic simplification of matters.

Gravdigr;864333 wrote:

That's an incredibly moronic simplification of matters.

Actually it goes back to the Crusades when we stole algebra from the Arabs and refused to give it back. The Arabs retaliated by invading Spain until they were driven out in their turn by the Children's Crusade. Then Richard the Lion-hearted in effect abandoned the throne of England so he and all the knights from Camelot could go look for the Holy Grail (what-ever that was) which had been stolen by jihadists traveling over the Alps with Hannibal and his elephants. This gave rise to the Republican party which emigrated to the American Colonies and began the Salem witchcraft trials.

Now, are we clear?

Gravdigr;864333 wrote:

That's an incredibly moronic simplification of matters.

Well, outside of this website I have read many moronic posts. Islamophobia is alive and well across the Western world.

Perhaps I've read more American posts because they're in English.
I avoid British Islamophobia just because I know what sites I might encounter it on; but I won't pretend it doesn't exist.