The Burden of Belief

If I were a compulsive liar,
I would expect you not,
To believe a word I say,
If I were honest as a saint,
I would expect you not,
To ever doubt my words,
I'm neither so,
I guess I'm lukewarm,
How to get hot and on fire,
Leave behind the lies,
Repent of sins,
Turn your back on evil,
So I don't know if you still,
Have a flicker of light shining,
In your heart and I'm not very smart,
So this burden of belief is on me,
If I believe my dreams,
Then something unusual,
Is indeed happening,
And I don't know who to trust,
If I trust my dreams,
I could be falling into a trap,
A trap that the devil setting,
In retrospect 'nothing',
Amounts to nothing,
Looking forward,
I have nothing to loose,
And everything to gain,
As you can see this poem,
Dose not rhyme,
And if I had a dime,
For every mistake I made,
I'd be drinking cool aid,
On a mountain with Jesus,
Personally I believe Jesus loves me,
ANd I love Jesus,
So I have no need,
To be anything more,
Than a peasant in his kingdom,
Rock n roll is out of control,
Today's music is soul less,
So I make my own,
I will die knowing Gods love,
Is more power-full than,
Some skinny little white guy,
Who makes beats,
From the pit of hell,
So I now the question is,
What do you believe??
DO you believe in America??
Do you believe in Free Speech?
Do you believe in Kings??
Wake UP...

If I was just another dusty
record on the shelf
Would you blow me off
and play me like everybody else?
If I asked you to scratch my back,
could you manage that?
Like yea fucked up,
check it Travie, I can handle that
Furthermore, I apologize
for any skipping tracks
It's just the last girl that
played me left a couple cracks
I used to, used to, used to,
now I'm over that
'Cause holding grudges over love
is ancient artifacts

JBKlyde;825582 wrote:

[SIZE="1"]The Burden of Belief [/SIZE]

I'll never be your belief of burden
My Son is back; but, he's a hurtin'
All I want is for you to worship me

I'll never be your belief of burden
I've guided for eons, the Spirit is hurtin'
All I want is for you to worship me

Am I hard enough
Am I rough enough
Am I merciful enough
I'm not too blind to see

I'll never be your belief of burden
So come confess and draw the curtain
Hand on the bible
Come my children worship me

Am I hard enough
Am I rough enough
Am I merciful enough
I'm not too blind to see

Oh my children
Petty, petty, petty, petty, sinners
Petty, petty
Such a petty, petty, petty sinner
Come my child please, please, please

I'll tell you, you can put me out on the street
Put me out with no faith in my deeds
But, don't put before me, don't put before me
Don't put before me other deities

Yeah, all your sickness I can suck it up
Throw it all at me I can shrug it off
There's one thing child that you need understand
You keep on telling me
That I'm your kind of God

'cause I'm rough enough, my child
'cause I'm tough enough
'cause I'm merciful enough, loving enough
Oh please

I'll never be your belief of burden
I'll never be your belief of burden
Never, never, never, never, never, never, never be

I'll never be your belief of burden
I've guided for eons, the Spirit is hurtin' ...

:notworthy:

:applause:

boo

too bad you don't have an appreciation for good satire or good rock and roll.

Your loss.

JBKlyde;826294 wrote:

boo hoo

ftfy

Belief is not a burden.

Belief relieves your burden.

If it don't, ur not doin it rite.

I don't understand at all what he's trying to say.. I think he thinks he's God or something and that's what makes me say. and the "burden of belief" to me means that I have to make a "conscious effort" to believe... you can't just sit back and think well I believe and am not going to do anything about it.. faith without deeds is dead...

boooooo

BigV;826295 wrote:

too bad you don't have an appreciation for good satire or good rock and roll.

Your loss.

I thought JB's rap and monster's rap were far better than that 'satire' as you call it.

My 9 year old niece does better satire. That was the worst 'word replacement' fun I've ever read.

And JB can say 'boo' in his own thread. You don't have to be such a shit to him. Yeah 'boo' what a horrible thing let's PILE ON.

And what the fuck does it have to do with JB's sense of 'good rock and roll?'

you're defending jb's ability to say what he likes in a given thread? Ok. I have the same privilege. As do you. you disagree with my assessment of sexobon's "word replacement" as you call it. whatever.

I cheered sexobon's riff on jb's post. gravdigr applauded. jb booed. I riffed on that. You might think that's being a shit to him. You might consider that piling on. It is neither.

I liked you better when you were on vacation.

She looks like an angel, walks like an angel
Talks like an angel, but I got wise
She's the devil in disguise
Oh yes she is, devil in disguise

She fooled me with her humor
She fumed and then she steamed
Heaven knows she's jealous of me
She's not the way she seemed

She looks like an angel, walks like an angel
Talks like an angel, but I got wise
She's the devil in disguise
Oh yes she is, devil in disguise

I thought that I was in Heaven
But I was sure surprised
Heaven help me, I didn't see
The devil in her eyes

She looks like an angel, walks like an angel
Talks like an angel, but I got wise
She's the devil in disguise
Oh yes she is, devil in disguise

She's the devil in disguise
Oh yes she is, devil in disguise
Oh yes she is, devil in disguise
Oh yes she is, devil in disguise
Oh yes she is, devil in disguise
Oh yes her

BigV;826323 wrote:

you're defending jb's ability to say what he likes in a given thread? Ok. I have the same privilege. As do you. you disagree with my assessment of sexobon's "word replacement" as you call it. whatever.

I cheered sexobon's riff on jb's post. gravdigr applauded. jb booed. I riffed on that. You might think that's being a shit to him. You might consider that piling on. It is neither.

I liked you better when you were on vacation.

I wasn't on vacation for over a month...I was staying away from people who piss me off.

Go pick on someone your own size. You're so cool picking on the defenseless. I've never heard anything more harsh than 'boo' come out of his mouth.

You might consider that it wasn't being a shit to him. You might consider it wasn't piling on. It was both.

sexobon;826324 wrote:

She looks like an angel, walks like an angel
Talks like an angel, but I got wise
She's the devil in disguise
Oh yes she is, devil in disguise

She fooled me with her humor
She fumed and then she steamed
Heaven knows she's jealous of me
She's not the way she seemed

She looks like an angel, walks like an angel
Talks like an angel, but I got wise
She's the devil in disguise
Oh yes she is, devil in disguise

I thought that I was in Heaven
But I was sure surprised
Heaven help me, I didn't see
The devil in her eyes

She looks like an angel, walks like an angel
Talks like an angel, but I got wise
She's the devil in disguise
Oh yes she is, devil in disguise

She's the devil in disguise
Oh yes she is, devil in disguise
Oh yes she is, devil in disguise
Oh yes she is, devil in disguise
Oh yes she is, devil in disguise
Oh yes her

And this, this is true. :devilsmilie:

JBKlyde;826303 wrote:

I don't understand at all what he's trying to say.. I think he thinks he's God or something and that's what makes me say. and the "burden of belief" to me means that I have to make a "conscious effort" to believe... you can't just sit back and think well I believe and am not going to do anything about it.. faith without deeds is dead...

boooooo

And I don't understand why you keep starting these threads. You know yer gonna get blasted for it.

BTW, it's not "I believe and am not going to do anything about it", it's "I believe, but I know God wants me to solve my problems myself, so I will just live my own life my way."

It says creative expression... I am creatively expressing my self.. the bible says the best way to find enlightenment is to use your minds to sharpen your self's like Iron sharpens Iron... so If I say something you don't like you will make a comment and I will respond thus the level of smartness will increase... I'm not book smart but I can write poetry and creative expression like nothing else.. so I am hoping by writing these things to learn something.. and believe it or not.. I am... so get smart or get out..

BTW, it's not "I believe and am not going to do anything about it", it's "I believe, but I know God wants me to solve my problems myself, so I will just live my own life my way."

Disciple is a reference to discipline...Jesus wants disciples thus you are wrong "in the eyes of Jesus" for wanting to do things your way instead of his...

<SIGH> Oh poor JB. your mind has been so screwed up, it's unbelievable. I pity you.

Oh poor JB. your mind has been so screwed up, it's unbelievable. ""I pity you.""

Don't pity what you don't believe, strengthen what is week, love your neighbor and move on..

JBKlyde;826441 wrote:

... so get smart or get out..

JBKlyde;826482 wrote:

... love your neighbor and move on..

Your requests are not favorably considered. YOU are a false witness "in the eyes of Jesus." YOU get out and YOU move on.

Your requests are not favorably considered. YOU are a false witness "in the eyes of Jesus." YOU get out and YOU move on.

your wrong... and if you were at all concerned with what Jesus wanted you would help me to correct my errors not just sit up on your high horse and shun me for living the way I do...

whats your good confession sexobon.. mine is Jesus is Lord.

No-one can say that without the help of the Holy Spirit

so say it..

JBKlyde;826303 wrote:

.. faith without deeds is dead...

JBKlyde;826567 wrote:

... if you were at all concerned with what Jesus wanted you would help me to correct my errors ...

It's not just deeds, it's GOOD deeds. You're just in it for the deeds of convenience, just getting off on telling others how they're supposed to live, just abusing the name of Jesus Christ by invoking it BEFORE you have your own house in order. Your deeds won't be good deeds until you can lead by good example and you're currently a poor example. You can correct the error of your ways by not pontificating until you become a credible witness. "YOU are a false witness 'in the eyes of Jesus.'"

JBKlyde;826567 wrote:

whats your good confession sexobon.. mine is Jesus is Lord. ...
... No-one can say that without the help of the Holy Spirit ...

ANYONE can say that without the help of the Holy Spirit: God gave everyone free will ... even the angels.

JBKlyde;826441 wrote:

... I'm not book smart ...

The Bible is a book.

JBKlyde;826567 wrote:

... so say it..

You take your uneducated, cockamamie, bullshit interpretation of the Bible (a book you're not smart about) and YOU SAY IT - ELSEWHERE.

apparently your not well versed in the bible either...

1 Corinthians 12:3
New International Version (NIV)
3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, &#8220;Jesus be cursed,&#8221; and no one can say, &#8220;Jesus is Lord,&#8221; except by the Holy Spirit.

your just twisting my words because I am rivaling this mean spirit you have..

It's not just deeds, it's GOOD deeds. You're just in it for the deeds of convenience, just getting off on telling others how they're supposed to live, just abusing the name of Jesus Christ by invoking it BEFORE you have your own house in order. Your deeds won't be good deeds until you can lead by good example and you're currently a poor example. You can correct the error of your ways by not pontificating until you become a credible witness. "YOU are a false witness 'in the eyes of Jesus.'"

and I think this is just you looking in the mirror and seeing your self... at what point did I ever tell people "how they're supposed to live" your the one calling people "petty sinners".. and my house is in order just started the "dishes" a few hours ago... please dood lose this holy than thow art mind set and work with me.. do you really think it's good to argue in front of non believers it makes us out to be fools..

JBKlyde;826626 wrote:

apparently your not well versed in the bible either...

1 Corinthians 12:3
New International Version (NIV)
3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit ...

Your reading comprehension is poor ... as you said, you're not book smart. Not everything in the Bible is meant to be taken literally. The verse you quoted, "... and no one can say, 'Jesus is Lord,' except by the Holy Spirit.," means that no TRUE witness proclaims "Jesus is Lord" without following it up with good behavior. It is obvious that any FALSE witness, such as yourself, can proclaim "Jesus is Lord" and then follow it with poor behavior as you do.

JBKlyde;826626 wrote:

.. do you really think it's good to argue in front of non believers it makes us out to be fools..

You're giving believers a bad reputation all by yourself. I'm just going about the Lord's work by doing damage control.

how do I have poor behavior.. by masturbating?? smoking?? you don't know me well enough to judge weather or not I have poor behavior...

and that bit about JIL is just what I was told by a southern baptist preacher before I got baptized...

you are so wrong... you are twisting Gods Holy Words just to damn me to hell..

http://www.mountcalvarygunnison.com/mpdf/2007/1_14_07.pdf

JBKlyde;826632 wrote:

how do I have poor behavior.. by masturbating?? smoking?? you don't know me well enough to judge weather or not I have poor behavior...

and that bit about JIL is just what I was told by a southern baptist preacher before I got baptized...

you are so wrong... you are twisting Gods Holy Words just to damn me to hell..

http://www.mountcalvarygunnison.com/mpdf/2007/1_14_07.pdf

You're damning yourself, with your poor behavior here in the Cellar, by preaching on a subject that you don't adequately comprehend ... God's Holy Words. You perform in such a meaningless way: you talk the talk; but, you don't walk the walk. You're not astute enough to realize that your behaviors here have to win the hearts and minds of the people over to yourself before you can even begin to win them over to God. You're too damn narrow minded and egotistical to change your approach, preferring instead to just tell people "you are so wrong" because that's the easy way out. You're not just a FALSE witness, you're a damn lazy FALSE witness. Your behavior here reflects poorly on yourself and the Lord thy God.

well I don't believe you, not for one second.. I'm not buying your anti-jbklyde message and I don't think anyone else here is either... this is a section for creative expression and you are doing nothing more than creatively suppressing me...

JBKlyde;826642 wrote:

well I don't believe you, not for one second.. I'm not buying your anti-jbklyde message and I don't think anyone else here is either... this is a section for creative expression and you are doing nothing more than creatively suppressing me...

Doubting Thomas,

Since you acknowledge that I've done it creatively, then it's every bit as qualified to be in this thread as the religious subject matter that you chose for your "creativity."

no it says creative eXpression not creative Oppression..

All I want is for you to worship me

and this sounds like a message from a "dumb idol".

All I want is for you to worship me

and this sounds like a message from a "dumb idol".

JBKlyde;826874 wrote:

and this sounds like a message from a "dumb idol".

You mean like Carrie Underwood? ;)

I've learned my lesson about poor mouthing talented women..

it's more like something from linkon park

That's OK, talented isn't a word I would've used, but have at it. ;)

and since this in tampa we have this thing called GASperllia and this is where the RNC is I thought this would be appropriate...

Fart to the Heart and Your to Blame, Honey you give love a Bad Name.

Bayud Nayum.

That's how that song always sounded to me. Too much ayu in it.

Though I do think Jon Bon Jovi is one righteous dude.

He's from Joisey. He's half owner of the Philadelphia Soul with Ron Jaworski. We sponsor the soul.

I gave birth to that team..

JBKlyde;826873 wrote:

no it says creative eXpression not creative Oppression..

One person's expression may be another person's oppression; or, have you forgotten the backlash when you expressed your views on homosexuality? Your comment is like the pot calling the kettle black. If you can dish it out ...

For as long as you keep replying to my posts, it's open season on JBKlyde.

which way did he go george which way did he go

JBKlyde;827311 wrote:

which way did he go george which way did he go

George says that telling you would be like telling a child not to play games.

OK JBKlyde, there's a human being in need of saving and this is your chance to walk the walk and catch a fish instead of coming home empty handed just talking fish stories. We have a new member in the Cellar, nicknamed starring molly, who's fallen through cracks in the system and needs the support of someone who's been there like you. Starring molly has started a new thread and needs to learn that Jesus loves everyone and needs to see God through you in the [thread=27971]Home Base[/thread] forum. It's time for you to go there, be creative, and at least try to do a good deed for someone other than yourself.

JBKlyde you got a nibble on your line: starring molly replied to your post! Keep fishing. Offer to do something together, like writing a sad story and starting another thread in this forum in which to do it. Build trust now so you can talk about beliefs later. Good deeds don't come easy.

starring molly;827569 wrote:

JBKlyde wrote:

I feel your pain molly.. this place is like the planet of the apes only I'm an a depressed anthropologist.. if you really want help go to the creative expression and write a poem.. poetry is very therapeutic and it's my way of dealing with reality. I don't date whores so if sex is what your looking for then I'm sorry I can't help.. if your locked in a prison home then the only real help I can be is to just be your friend and call the fbi.

j-a-d-i-p

Hi. I really do not like poetry. i think it is very depressing; but thank you for the offer. I like sad stories. I read 'Great Expectations' all the time. I love the way that Estella spurns Pip in the end. I like sad endings because that is me; as well as real life!!! People want to see atrocity; and smashed hearts!!

I love it when a movie ends with a tragic love gone wrong. i cheer as other people get sad!!! I am built to destroy whatever good comes into my life... and I am a sick person at times for doing that. I will destroy love...

Oh get off it, sexobon. More tiresome than Emma. :yawn:

You no likey JBKlyde save molly?

The Relief of Belief

Genetics is frenetic,
that twisted DNA
Freaks my monkey-mind in an
Inane Inhuman way

The appliance of science
Keep it Mr Darwin
Hurdles of hereditry
Are twisting me within

I need a simple single
Just one thing to believe
A God who made all as is
Such a mental relief

:applause:

Now back to good deeds:

Hang in there JBKlyde. So Molly had some mean things to say to you. Sticks and stones may break my bones; but, names will never hurt me.

starring molly;827674 wrote:

JBKlyde wrote:

This is a very bad atittude.. you will be laughed at while burning in hell for killing yourself if you don't learn to love.

please stop posting as i am tryingg to leave for the nite. you and your faggot poetry. do u suck cock while reading your peotry?? and who is that man in the wheelchare?? JOHN SELLERS?? WHAT happend o to him?? juesus fuck. makes my life seem bettter. he shoudl get a go-cart so he dos not have to use arms to make hi him wheel around....

ther is no god. ask john sellllers. his penis is probably never work aagain.............i would like ot spealk to undertaod

JBKlyde, you've said many an unkind thing about me; yet, did I give up? No. I said:

sexobon;827210 wrote:

... For as long as you keep replying to my posts, it's open season on JBKlyde.

Monster gave you 3 out of 10 points for trying.

monster;827677 wrote:

3/10

I think you can raise that score through perseverance. You delved into the hell, fire, and brimstone a little early in the relationship; but, molly still responded to your post when molly could have made no reply and/or put you on ignore. The dialogue is still open. Just ask molly what it is you can do to be a friend and LISTEN. Then take it from there.

no the 3/10 was for molly.

Indian giver.

she said she wanted to destroy love.. what can I possibly do except love her.. if she dose not want love there is nothing I can do... except piss her off to the point she will not want to kill herself because she feels she will loose if she dose...

Ah, reverse psychology, good strategy for next time. Meanwhile, do a web search to see if there's some way that you can baptize her over the internet. If there is, you can practice on some of the others here before doing the hard cases.

didn't you already post this link jbk?

yes my bad

ok, glad to know I'm not trippin balls.

carry on soldier.