If you think racism is in the past

dar512 • May 16, 2012 2:17 pm
http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/tpay6/to_the_assholes_who_broke_my_nose_for_having_a/
classicman • May 16, 2012 2:38 pm
Dude - Whats up with the dar return?

Racism is dying a long slow death. It will never be completely eradicated, but over time the numbers will be so small as to not be significant.

I hope thats not you or your friend/son/brother.... in that pic.

Either way - good to see you posting again.
dar512 • May 16, 2012 2:50 pm
Slim time to post. No time to hang out and read.

Oops. My fingers got ahead of my brain again.
piercehawkeye45 • May 16, 2012 3:04 pm
classicman;811859 wrote:
Racism is dying a long slow death. It will never be completely eradicated, but over time the numbers will be so small as to not be significant.

What type of racism? Typical American/European racism? :p:
xoxoxoBruce • May 16, 2012 3:17 pm
Never... screw those Euro toting faggots. :p: :haha:
Spexxvet • May 16, 2012 3:30 pm
classicman;811859 wrote:
...Racism is dying a long slow death. It will never be completely eradicated,...


That there is a contradiction.
classicman • May 16, 2012 4:37 pm
Selective quoting now? WTF?
keep the rest (below) and it makes perfect sense.
but over time the numbers will be so small as to not be significant.
Spexxvet • May 16, 2012 5:20 pm
Dead, but not dead. Alive, but small enough as to not be significant, but alive. Dying, never to die, merely to become as to not be significant. There, but only a shadow. A veritable pimple on the ugly ass of the caucazoid majority.

Dying,

slowly.

Never completely eradicated.

small numbers

insignificant...

but not dead.

:artist:
*fingers snapping*
classicman • May 16, 2012 5:23 pm
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Spexxvet • May 16, 2012 5:57 pm
:wstupid:
Stormieweather • May 17, 2012 10:23 am
Way to hijack the thread, boys.

:lame:

Now no one's thinking about racism (dead or alive), they're all watching you two squabble.

:eyebrow:
infinite monkey • May 17, 2012 10:24 am
Dead people are really offended.
classicman • May 17, 2012 1:10 pm
You two???
Reread what transpired again.
Gravdigr • May 17, 2012 2:56 pm
I'm getting closer every day to becoming anti people.

People suck, fuck everybody.
Sundae • May 17, 2012 3:17 pm
classicman;811859 wrote:
Racism is dying a long slow death. It will never be completely eradicated, but over time the numbers will be so small as to not be significant.

Spexxvet;811870 wrote:
That there is a contradiction.

classicman;811882 wrote:
Selective quoting now? WTF?

Spexx, Classic's post makes complete sense to me. Racism as a widespread political/ social/ personal motivator will slowly cease to exist. At least I hope so. But there will always be those who follow behind social/ economic and political trends. The Amish for example - their numbers are so small as to not be significiant. And the influence of the Mormons...

Many Christians still think The Gays were what destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, rather than a lack of hospitality to Angels. And also forget Lot got off scott-free both for destroying his wife and laying with his daughters. Go figure. People's minds are messed up.

Classic, I don't really think it was selective quoting.
I got what you both said.

And Dar - that linked article lacks an awful lot of information.
I am not saying racism does not exist. But if two of the friends live in the neighbourhood and one close by (the way I read it) it seems like an excessively violent racial attack that happened for no other reason in an integrated area.

I know there are racist arseholes out there. I know they can spur eachother on. The same way there are men out there who gang rape with no previous convictions. So I am laying blame or casting aspersions. I am just questioning the lack of details in the account.
Gravdigr • May 17, 2012 5:45 pm
Sundae;812029 wrote:
And also forget Lot got off scott-free both for destroying his wife and laying with his daughters.


I thought God destroyed Lot's wife (Ado or Edith) by turning her into a pillar of salt for looking back?
ZenGum • May 17, 2012 8:07 pm
No, that was a typo. she was looking black.

Racism, like homophobia, is alive and kicking.
piercehawkeye45 • May 17, 2012 8:51 pm
Sundae;812029 wrote:
Spexx, Classic's post makes complete sense to me. Racism as a widespread political/ social/ personal motivator will slowly cease to exist. At least I hope so. But there will always be those who follow behind social/ economic and political trends. The Amish for example - their numbers are so small as to not be significiant. And the influence of the Mormons...

I disagree. I see racism, like sexism and other social doctrines, as dynamic doctrines that fluctuate and change with time depending on the social conditions. The stereotypical white/black racism has certainly decreased in the past 70 years but even that has changed from a very direct racism to an indirect "no one to blame" type racism. Although, especially from talking to peers my age, I don't see the white/black racism disappearing as long cultural tensions exist since that is, in my opinion, the main factor keeping it alive today.

I don't think we can guess where it will head either. If cultural tensions and the inequality gap between white and black Americans decrease a full integration of the two groups may eventually happen. On the other hand, if social conditions go to complete shit then I would expect people to act like they always have: blame the group that is different from them.

Also, just because white/black racism is the most observed doesn't mean it can be labeled as racism in its entirety. The history of the US is a great example of different types of racism. Anglo-Saxxons used to be very racist against the Irish, Poles, and Scandinavians, but today most people couldn't tell if you are 100% Irish, Polish, or Swedish unless you have an accent. The elimination of those types of racism occurred because culturally they combined while this didn't happen with blacks, natives, or Hispanics.
TheMercenary • May 17, 2012 8:56 pm
Gravdigr;812018 wrote:
I'm getting closer every day to becoming anti people.

People suck, fuck everybody.

:thumb:
TheMercenary • May 17, 2012 8:59 pm
piercehawkeye45;812096 wrote:
I disagree. I see racism, like sexism and other social doctrines, as dynamic doctrines that fluctuate and change with time depending on the social conditions.
Who cares. Most people don't. Well except for Jessie Jackson and Al "Brawley" Sharpton. It is bullshit. The Man is President. He may be a White-Black Man (Like Zimmerman the White-Hispanic) but "The Man" is now a black dude. It's over.
Sundae • May 18, 2012 2:40 am
Gravdigr;812070 wrote:
I thought God destroyed Lot's wife (Ado or Edith) by turning her into a pillar of salt for looking back?

Yebbut, God gave him rules. He disobeyed. Who suffered? His wife - wiped out for no reason apart from Lot's behaviour.

Not saying God's unfair or anything... just that he doesn't value women or children.
Rhianne • May 18, 2012 4:54 am
[QUOTE=TheMercenary;812100]Who cares. Most people don't. QUOTE]

Do you mean 'most people' or most people like you?

I think you're right, most people don't care, but all of those who understand what the problem is with racism do care.

I find it very strange when I read that folk think that the whole of the world's race related issues have been solved in one go when one country elects a half-black (no one ever says half-white) president.
Aliantha • May 18, 2012 6:55 am
I have never gotten that impression from anyone Rhianne. (about the black president thing) I know some people, myself included, see it as an indication that times are changing, but not that all the problems are solved.
Gravdigr • May 19, 2012 4:56 pm
I have white skin. According to the latest census 'minority' births now outnumber 'white' births.

I am now a minority.

Wheeeeeeeere's mah special prgrams?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah NAAWP?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah check?
Gravdigr • May 19, 2012 4:58 pm
Sundae;812136 wrote:
Yebbut, God gave him rules. He disobeyed. Who suffered? His wife - wiped out for no reason apart from Lot's behaviour.

Not saying God's unfair or anything... just that he doesn't value women or children.


But, she's the one who looked back. If she hadn't looked back...
DanaC • May 19, 2012 5:12 pm
Gravdigr;812336 wrote:
I have white skin. According to the latest census 'minority' births now outnumber 'white' births.

I am now a minority.

Wheeeeeeeere's mah special prgrams?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah NAAWP?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah check?


No you're not. Not yet. Takes a while for the birthrate to have a strong impact on demographics. The largest single group in America, at a little over half the population, is still whitey :p
tw • May 19, 2012 6:18 pm
DanaC;812338 wrote:
The largest single group in America, at a little over half the population, is still whitey
Was. That has changed with the popularity of tanning saloons.

After all, racism is only about a first impression. So many want to be the pretty people.
TheMercenary • May 19, 2012 10:03 pm
Rhianne;812139 wrote:
[QUOTE=TheMercenary;812100]Who cares. Most people don't. QUOTE]

Do you mean 'most people' or most people like you?
I don't care.

I find it very strange when I read that folk think that the whole of the world's race related issues have been solved in one go when one country elects a half-black (no one ever says half-white) president.
Or when they elect a half White-half truly African American President but yet continue to call him "Black" and call Zimmerman a "White-Hispanic".
Clodfobble • May 19, 2012 11:08 pm
Sundae wrote:
Yebbut, God gave him rules. He disobeyed. Who suffered? His wife - wiped out for no reason apart from Lot's behaviour.

Not saying God's unfair or anything... just that he doesn't value women or children.


The angels said "Don't look back" to Lot, his wife, and his daughters all in a group. Lot's wife was the only one who looked back, so she turned into a pillar of salt.

Not to say the ancient Jewish culture valued women and children all that much after all. I mean, in the very next passage God condones it when Lot's daughters get him drunk and have sex with him, because there's no one else around to get them pregnant as God inherently wants them to be.
TheMercenary • May 19, 2012 11:18 pm
You say that like it is a bad thing.... :lol:
Sundae • May 20, 2012 8:19 am
Gravdigr;812337 wrote:
But, she's the one who looked back. If she hadn't looked back...

Clodfobble;812390 wrote:
The angels said "Don't look back" to Lot, his wife, and his daughters all in a group. Lot's wife was the only one who looked back, so she turned into a pillar of salt.

My apols.
I was thinking of Orpheus and Eurydice :)
Pete Zicato • May 20, 2012 11:38 pm
tw;812346 wrote:
Was. That has changed with the popularity of tanning saloons.

You made me laugh with that one.
Spexxvet • May 21, 2012 2:33 pm
Gravdigr;812336 wrote:
I have white skin. According to the latest census 'minority' births now outnumber 'white' births.

I am now a minority.

Wheeeeeeeere's mah special prgrams?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah NAAWP?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah check?


You'll get your check when white people have been treated by the majority the way white people have treated minorities for the same length of time. Not one minute before.

Now get your thumb out of your mouth and get a job.;)
Gravdigr • May 21, 2012 5:51 pm
Spexxvet;812599 wrote:
...get a job.;)


Don't need one. Done my bit.

Start a business. Sell it. Good luck!
Gravdigr • May 21, 2012 6:04 pm
Gravdigr;812336 wrote:
I have white skin. According to the latest census 'minority' births now outnumber 'white' births.

I am now a minority.

Wheeeeeeeere's mah special prgrams?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah NAAWP?
Wheeeeeeeere's mah check?


DanaC;812338 wrote:
No you're not. Not yet. Takes a while for the birthrate to have a strong impact on demographics. The largest single group in America, at a little over half the population, is still whitey :p


Spexxvet;812599 wrote:
You'll get your check when white people have been treated by the majority the way white people have treated minorities for the same length of time. Not one minute before.


Yeah. Sigh. Didja really think I was headed down to da welfare office? Really?

JFC, people...would ya just think, think, if for only a fucking split second, before ya get on your fucking moral high horse?

Ya just might save yaself some effort.


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TheMercenary • May 21, 2012 6:19 pm
Until we rid our nation of preferential treatment and government programs like "Affirmative Action" we will be a Nation of racist policy.
DanaC • May 21, 2012 6:53 pm
Gravdigr;812611 wrote:
Yeah. Sigh. Didja really think I was headed down to da welfare office? Really?

JFC, people...would ya just think, think, if for only a fucking split second, before ya get on your fucking moral high horse?

Ya just might save yaself some effort.


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I'd have thought my use of the word 'whitey' would have given away that I was meeting your humour with my own. The :p should have clued you in otherwise.
tw • May 21, 2012 9:23 pm
TheMercenary;812618 wrote:
Until we rid our nation of preferential treatment and government programs like "Affirmative Action" we will be a Nation of racist policy.
Ironic from one who promoted hate of Muslims in Lower Manhattan.
BigV • May 21, 2012 10:50 pm
Racism is alive and well today. It has a bright future too, because thinking is hard. Lots of people would prefer a simple wrong explanation because it's easier (to put on a bumper sticker) than a complex correct understanding because it's harder (to convey during a commercial break). Intolerance is rooted in laziness and fear, both of which are abundant and self-renewing; they are everlasting. Intolerance based on skin color is just one kind, an easy kind of intolerance. One that can be exercised at a distance.

Such rigid and simple discrimination may have been useful at one time when tribal conflict had mortal stakes, but it is completely maladaptive now. Absent knowledge of skin color, there are not many distinguishing characteristics that can be known that matter.

William Shakespeare channeling Shylock wrote:
I am a Jew. Hath not a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer as a Christian is? If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that. If a Jew wrong a Christian, what is his humility? Revenge. If a Christian wrong a Jew, what should his sufferance be by Christian example? Why, revenge. The villainy you teach me I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction.


Hate begets hate. Laziness begets laziness. We share our humanity regardless of such trivialities as skin color. But we are easily distracted by what is apparent from what is important.
Pete Zicato • May 21, 2012 10:55 pm
BigV;812654 wrote:
It has a bright future too, because thinking is hard.

This. Well, that and it's easier to blame someone else for your problems.
Spexxvet • May 22, 2012 3:14 pm
Gravdigr;812611 wrote:
Yeah. Sigh. Didja really think I was headed down to da welfare office? Really?

JFC, people...would ya just think, think, if for only a fucking split second, before ya get on your fucking moral high horse?

Ya just might save yaself some effort.


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Dood. I even used the winky smiley. Now get your thumb out of your ass and get a sense of humor.;):facepalm::stickpoke:beer::bolt::comfort: