Americans show the love to Cellar favored nations

Undertoad • Feb 17, 2012 1:07 am

Americans Give Record-High Ratings to Several Allies

Feelin' the love:

This year's ratings for Canada (96%), Australia (93%), Germany (86%), Japan (83%), and India (75%) are all record highs for those countries in Gallup trends that stretch back at least a decade. Additionally, the survey finds Great Britain (90%), France (75%), and Israel (71%) rated near their all-time highs.

DanaC • Feb 17, 2012 7:08 am

That was fascinating. Thanks for posting.

Sundae • Feb 17, 2012 7:15 am

Psssst, Dani - they like the Aussies more then us.
Let's not talk to them any more.

DanaC • Feb 17, 2012 7:17 am

Pshaw. Everybody likes the Aussies. What can one possibly dislike about Aussies?

You seen the US Food Insecurity levels? (in World) On a par with Greece. Greece has 18% food insecure, and the US 19%. This explains how Occupy Wall Street happens imo.

HungLikeJesus • Feb 17, 2012 10:41 am

Americans often get confused between the Austrians and the Australians. That's all it is.

glatt • Feb 17, 2012 10:55 am

It's interesting to see the drop for Pakistan. People are more informed than I expected. Pakistan was relatively high during the peak of the Afghan war when they were such an ally, and has dropped steady as that relationship has cooled. I'm honestly surprised that the surveyed Americans knew what Pakistan was and had a grasp of current events. Who were these people?

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Sundae • Feb 17, 2012 11:50 am

You might be assuming knowledge that isn't there.
Pakmanistan? Thats where Pashminas come from, right? Oh yes, so cosy, 10 points to Gryffindor!

tw • Feb 17, 2012 4:27 pm

glatt;796098 wrote:
It's interesting to see the drop for Pakistan.

Long ago was this question. What country is the greatest threat to America? Probably Pakistan. That answer remains.

Back in 2008, a reality was predicted.

tw;430175 wrote:
Those with contempt for America even refused to ask a simple question: "When do you go after bin Laden?"
In 349 days, America will have leaders with balls to ask that question.

Then we first discovered and later elected one. Then a hunt for bin Laden was restarted - with success. Where did they find him? Protected in a house just down the street from Pakistan's equivalent of West Point.

Reality. When was Pakistan really a respected ally? Pakistan was even marketing bombs to countries that most needed nuclear weapons because some idiot called them the axis of evil. This was even posted in May 2007 when xoxoxoBruce was calling me a liar. The impending Veto:

tw;340758 wrote:
What is the greatest long term threat to America? I believe it to be Pakistan.

(BTW bruce, even Michael Yon has come around to my thinking.) Reality has not changed. Has only become more obvious after almost five years.

Pakistan has been and remains a greatest threat to America. It should have been obvious long ago when George Jr was promoting lies and all but protecting bin Laden. A problem made even worse with so much of our military trapped should Pakistan decide they don't need the $billions used to 'buy' them.

As the Economist recently noted, Pakistan has clearly become more fundamentalist than it was ten years ago. But it should have been obvious that long ago that Pakistan was and remains a greatest threat to America.

Meanwhile, Turkey deserves a much higher rating than Israel.

Sidebar: who planned the Pakistani attack on Lahore that killed 100+ in India? A man who lived in two counties both adjacent to The Cellar. Does the Cellar also lie in a hotbed of extremism where friends are not on that list?

Undertoad • Feb 17, 2012 8:34 pm

How did your prediction of war with China go?

Around here we're familiar with sports bettors greening up their prediction success rate.

ZenGum • Feb 18, 2012 4:22 am

Long ago was this question. What country is the greatest threat to America?

America.

Seriously.

Oh and :grouphug: thanks guys.

TheMercenary • Feb 23, 2012 8:34 am

Sundae;796111 wrote:
You might be assuming knowledge that isn't there.
Pakmanistan? Thats where Pashminas come from, right? Oh yes, so cosy, 10 points to Gryffindor!

Most Americans probably thought they were talking about Packman. With the advent of the new online computer gaming they viewed Packman as lame.

xoxoxoBruce • Feb 23, 2012 7:15 pm

DanaC;796071 wrote:
Pshaw. Everybody likes the Aussies. What can one possibly dislike about Aussies?

It's not that we like them so much, but we do respect the shit out of people that live where 50% of the flora and fauna can kill you. :haha:

TheMercenary • Feb 23, 2012 7:22 pm

xoxoxoBruce;797403 wrote:
It's not that we like them so much, but we do respect the shit out of people that live where 50% of the flora and fauna can kill you. :haha:

I have never been to Aussie land but it is on my Bucket List.

richlevy • Feb 23, 2012 10:50 pm

xoxoxoBruce;797403 wrote:
It's not that we like them so much, but we do respect the shit out of people that live where 50% of the flora and fauna can kill you. :haha:

Per capita beer consumption and the number of topless beaches is also figured into the equation.

ZenGum • Feb 24, 2012 7:36 pm

There are in fact very few official topless beaches.

In reality, they're almost all topless until some wowser complains.

tw • May 18, 2014 1:22 am

Undertoad;796197 wrote:
How did your prediction of war with China go?

So China had military confrontations with Japan over the Senkaku Islands. Even placing some in their claimed defense airspace. China recently trapped and had another confrontation with the Philippines over the Second Thomas Shoals. At least 130 ships from China and Vietnam are in confrontation in the Parcel Islands. Recent reports imply something is about to happen in the Sprately Islands. So far, conflicts have involved colliding ships and water cannons. So no chance of war exists since many of those 130 ships are armed Coast Guard and warships.

Undertoad • May 18, 2014 10:23 am

I like how you remembered my challenge from two years ago.

tw • May 18, 2014 1:04 pm

Undertoad;899223 wrote:
I like how you remembered my challenge from two years ago.

View in long terms. Or how really works. After 30 years of GM cars designed by business school graduates, then even bankruptcy happened. Reality takes years to become obvious.

We discussed a crappy Cobalt maybe ten years ago. Some insisted it was a great car despite facts. Where are they now? Reality is indisputable years later.

BTW, we discussed that in 2005. How many openly disputed what is now clearly known? For example: Kill the Messenger - this time the LA Times ? No reason. Criticisms are now obvious nine years later. Even a ‘threatened lawsuit’ was similar to traditional bogus GM denials:

It has come to our attention you’ve been casting aspersions on the General Motors Executives.

Same criticism of Cheney was how long ago? Nobody today can be honest and deny the accuracy of warnings back then. Even recent NSA revelations are directly traceable to him. That is how we are supposed to learn - from history.

In “Mission Accomplished”, so many ignored lessons from ‘deja vue Nam’. Well, when did many finally admit they advocated the massacre of 5000 American servicemen for no useful purpose? I still do not hear, for example, UG types apologizing for their mistakes. Or learning from those mistakes. Some never learn from history.

Two years - that was almost yesterday. Battles with deaths (in the 1970s) were fought over these islands long before I discussed it. Risks should have been obvious even a decade ago.

Of course, we could sue Google to have our mistakes removed. Then what is learned?

Concern for South China Sea conflicts were made long ago when the risks were obvious. Learn from history – or even from mistakes made yesterday (two years ago).

Undertoad • May 18, 2014 1:19 pm

I especially like how you never answered the challenge.

Sundae • May 18, 2014 1:30 pm

I like the fast reply.

DanaC • May 18, 2014 2:05 pm

Yeah, i thought that was classy.

sexobon • May 18, 2014 3:50 pm

Oh my! You ladies haven't connected the dots yet have you? What with tw traversing time in responding to the past and projecting the future, the clever use of an inverted "m" in his username to taunt you, you still haven't seen through his perception filter that tm is ... WAIT FOR IT ... THE MASTER! :eek:

tw • May 18, 2014 4:34 pm

Undertoad;899234 wrote:
I especially like how you never answered the challenge.

Your mistake should not exasperate you. Instead, learn from it.

Be concerned. From the Senkaku to Sprately islands is a potential war we could easily get dragged into. Includes one called Mischief Reef. No nation remains healthy if going to war every decade. Simply view many bridges now closed because of "Mission Accomplished".

Unfortunately America has numerous wackos who still view every solution in military conquests. As noted years ago when you did not appreciate the threat. At this point, everyone can appreciate the folly of war that is so easily avoided by learning from history.

footfootfoot • May 19, 2014 8:53 am

Sundae;796111 wrote:
You might be assuming knowledge that isn't there.
Pakmanistan? Thats where Pashminas come from, right? Oh yes, so cosy, 10 points to Gryffindor!

BigV • May 19, 2014 12:39 pm

ten points?

no. tha's like... half an inch away from half a point, at breast.