Here We Go Again...
I'm pregnant...again.
At the moment I'm still in shock. It's been totally unplanned, not that we've been particularly trying not to, but given our difficulties conceiving Max, we've just been avoiding sex during ovulation etc, and Dazza travels so much that in real terms, we don't actually get to make love much.
I guess we should have thought more about it during the 'silly season' and his lack of travel and well, I guess just all those things added up, and of course Murphy's Law.
So anyway, I'm going to need to download a bit here over the next while. This has put a big hole in a lot of our plans for this year, so it's going to take a while to get my head around.
Thanks for listening.
Congratulation, Ali...I think?
Dunno what to say. How does Dazza feel?
Are you ok with this or is it something you both didn't want or...?
Yeh - tell me to shut up anytime now.
You would've avoided pregnancy no holds barred if you wanted to. But you want to have a baby. To that, I say congratulations. :)
Thanks Blue. We're happy with the idea, but it's just going to change so much for us, the least of which is my personal goal to lose a lot of weight this year. I guess it's the best excuse to go off my diet, although I think with eating healthy it'll be ok.
Dunno what to say. How does Dazza feel?
Are you ok with this or is it something you both didn't want or...?
Yeh - tell me to shut up anytime now.
We've talked on an off about having another one, and at first we fully intended to, but then I had so many problems with Max during preganacy and after that we kind of tacitly agreed to shelve the idea, probably permanently...
You would've avoided pregnancy no holds barred if you wanted to. But you want to have a baby. To that, I say congratulations. :)
...but as IM says, we were never totally against the idea, so it's good. i just hope things are a bit easier all round this time.
Thanks guys.
Cellaria
great name.
Or just Cella...
if she's african-australian (;)): D'Wella....
or...
Pam
Emma....
Sheila!
:D
I bet Max will like having a buddy close to his age. And if it's a girl, just imagine the kind of protection she's going to get from all her older brothers! It'll all work out for the best, Ali. I'm happy for you and your family.
or none of the above. lol
We'll have to wait quite a few months to find out the sex. I guess after that we'll have to think about names.
God, and I'm going to have to recall all the baby stuff I've given away. lol That's going to be awesome!
After having three boys - Here's hopin you have a girl.
Thanks Clod. If it's a girl, I fear for the life of anyone who messes with her. lol The older two are protective enough of Max.
Being the only girl is awesome!
Think of it the other way...all girls! OMG. :lol: I also know families who had just boys, and what good boys they turned out to be.
This is good news. Yay!
I heard thst if it's not a girl, they will do an exchange within 10 days if you keep the receipt.
Wow!
Congrats, Ali. I'm sure things will work out well.
I heard thst if it's not a girl, they will do an exchange within 10 days if you keep the receipt.
Must have lost the receipt for Thor, huh? :lol:
Congrats, Ali. You may be apprehensive now, but it'll all go away when you hold that tiny little snuggly baby in your arms. Nothing better.
... but it's just going to change so much for us, the least of which is my personal goal to lose a lot of weight this year. I guess it's the best excuse to go off my diet, although I think with eating healthy it'll be ok.
My wife had gestational diabetes when she was preggers with our oldest, and was heavy when she concieved our second. She didn't want to go back on the needle, so she ate heathily and exercised, and lost weight while carrying a healthy baby with an average birth weight.
Must have lost the receipt for Thor, huh? :lol:
he was a trojan horse -very cute and no trouble for the first 10 days or so......
Major congrats, Ali.
As Infi said, if another baby was a horrifying idea then you'd be on contraception or Dazza would've been snipped.
This one is a surprise and even if not planned, will be born into a stable and loving family.
If you have a girl, you'll have to have a special babygro printed for her:
No, Mummy wasn't just trying for a girl, she was just horny
and on the back
Daddy would've been happy with a blowjob
Spex...thanks for that. It's what I needed to hear. I'm going to talk to the doc about it on Monday anyway and see what the party line is on this sort of issue.
Sundae, I think I'll give that tshirt idea a miss. lol You're terrible Murial!
Congrats Ali.
Mrs. Z lost weight with Zing 1 and kept it off with Zing 2. She was walking every day. Seattle walks -- steep hills.
Congratulations, Ali! It will be nice for Max to have a little buddy, and at some point they will be great entertainment for each other.
I think you're right kerosene. I also think Max will be a great help when the new one comes along. He'll be nearly 4, so i reckon he'll be good for lots of fetching a carrying. Especially since he loves helping me out usually anyway. :)
I guess it's official now. I've had my first day of morning sickness. :( 3 pm and finally feeling a bit like I'm almost ok. Super excellent.
Cellaria
great name.
Or just Cella...
if she's african-australian (;)): D'Wella....
or...
Pam
Emma....
Sheila!
:D
u r lol!
Congrats... on the baby not the nausea.
Congratulations!!! ( a little late but we've had comms difficulties locally ...).
Wow. I just saw this. Congratulations, Ali!
Wowee! We're going to be pretend aunts and uncles! Congratulations!
lol...yeah again wolf! Thanks.
Aliantha! Holy crap! Someone from stormchat! Hello!
Axel! Holy hail! Someone else from stormchat! Hello!
And welcome to the cellar, Axel. :)
AXEL!!!! Wow! Now there's a cute young thing I never thought I'd see again! ;)
How are things going?
And welcome to the cellar. I think you'll like it here. :)
Congratulations on your new adventure! Enjoy most of it! {not this part :vomit:}
but all the rest :jig:
So, like, Stormchat is a bit of a misnomer, eh? They don't actually storm you with chat much, do they? :lol:
I expected a bunch of posts really fast-like and powerful. I am disappoint. ;)
lol...stormchat was once a pretty cool place, but then it got disturbed by over moderation and I got banned for being anti-american cause I said something bad about Bush Jr (and maybe guns at the same time...lol) but then I was invited back, but the place was dead.
eta: Axel was always a really nice young fella and kinda cute too, but he did always tend to pop off. lol
:)
I like the name, though. It just gave me the giggles, Axel was like a flash storm.
Funny how many forums I hear of that just disappear, or are pretty dead, but not the good old Cellar. :)
Congratulations, Aliantha!!! Yeah, dieting isn't a good idea anymore. However, healthy eating is always the best for all situations. :thumb: Eat healthy and walking for exercise. But from what you said about prior complications, being under a doctor's supervision is the safest thing. Good luck! Not for being thinner but being healthier and having a healthy baby. :)
Axel is usually a dog's name :) But i adopted (pun intended) it because the name Alex was always taken
Lovely to see you Ali, popped in here randomly and saw a very familiar name.... most pleasent surprise. Hope you're doing really well and my biggest congratulations btw!
So what's this place like?
It's not too bad Axel. I've been posting here for quite a few years now and this is like my 'net home' I guess you'd say.
There's a fairly large mix of people here, so you get a lot of different points of view which can be very illuminating at times.
There are the usual dog piles now and then when someone steps out of line or pushes the community a bit far, but usually it ends up for the best.
The minimal moderation is one of the things I prefer about this site (especially after the extreme mods at stormchat lol).
There are the usual dog piles now and then
Usually in "post your pet".
Well i'm glad I don't go there too often then. lol I have a weak stomach!
dogpile!!!
i guess more like dogline
Awww...cute puppies! (I thought you were talking about dog poo lol)
Well looks like a nie place....nice enough to stick around :)
If I am righteous, I will be reincarnated as a wee puppy.
And if you're unrighteous, puppy wee.
You know, I reckon choosing to come back as a dog would be fraught with issues.
When it all comes down to it, there are millions (billions) more mistreated and forgotten dogs than there are pampered pooches.
you'd have to be lucky to get a good owner I reckon.
True. I used to say I wanted to come back as a cat, but as one of MY (or a reasonable facsimile thereof) cats. Spoiled silly.
I feel sick today. :( I think I will vomit up my breaky soon.
I want to crawl under a rock and not come out for several years.
:comfort:
You've made it through this before, right? You can do it again. :)
It's not too late to change your mind.
True. I used to say I wanted to come back as a cat, but as one of MY (or a reasonable facsimile thereof) cats. Spoiled silly.
Seems a bit of a logical problem there. I guess it might be possible, but you (as cat) would end up surviving by eating the corpse of you (as human). That ain't right. :D
Seems a bit of a logical problem there. I guess it might be possible, but you (as cat) would end up surviving by eating the corpse of you (as human). That ain't right. :D
Don't forget the stash of hobos....
Seems a bit of a logical problem there. I guess it might be possible, but you (as cat) would end up surviving by eating the corpse of you (as human). That ain't right. :D
That's why I added "reasonable facsimilie thereof" to acknowledge that I can't possibly come back as my cat. :lol:
I hadn't worked it all out yet.
And of course, there are always hobos.
Breakfast is no more than sludge in the septic tank now. Nice.
What's even nicer is the two year old standing next to you saying, "What's that Mummy. That's smelly.", but what makes is better is when you sit down on the bed afterwards and the same two year old climbs up next to you and says, "Are you ok Mummy? Let's have a smooch."
I guess I can just focus on getting more of the same at the end of all this.
When it all comes down to it, there are millions (billions) more mistreated and forgotten dogs than there are pampered pooches.
you'd have to be lucky to get a good owner I reckon.
The same goes for being incarnated as a human, for that matter.
Yeah that's true I guess. I suppose I just think that as humans we have more chance to change our circumstances, but it's not so easy for some.
She'll be worth every dry heave, darling.
Just found out yesterday about the news, ali !
Congratulations!
sundae, bless her heart, called and let me know! Good for you!!!
Just think of the baby as your Dark Passenger (hee hee hee hee hee!)
sorry you're puking but as sundae said, the darling will be worth it.
Thanks Bri. And let's hope so. lol
I had a 12 week scan yesterday.
There's only one in there and it all looks pretty good, so I guess we're on our way for real now.
I'm still feeling quite ambivalent about this baby. My heart is just not in it yet, but I hope it gets with the program soon. Maybe when it starts moving around it'll seem more real. Mind you, the illness I've been feeling has been enough of a reminder of the reality.
Anyway, onwards and upwards I guess.
Isn't that onwards and outwards??
hang in there Ali.. We're rooting for you.
It was the rooting that got me into this mess. :( But thanks V.
Maybe that's what V means... you should have outsourced the rooting to subcontractors, so that your liability was limited in the case of a chemical spill at the plant.
Abs had her 20 week scan today.
Boys. Both hale and hearty apparently.
So at least now I can look at wholesale bundles on ebay for the right gender...
Glad to hear all is well with you Ali.
Hope the sickies pass soon.
Any colourful dreams yet? Colourful in either meaning of the word ;)
Actually, I had a dream the other day that you were in. I can't remember the context really or any details, but I remember in my conscious mind thinking how weird it was to be dreaming a dream that you were in. That's probably what ruined the course of the dream. I think it had something do with us both being single and heading out for a night on the town.
I ruined your dream :mecry:
Ah well, there'll be others.
I dreamed the other night that I was looking after a coconut that had little aliens inside. I had to carry it everywhere and respond to its needs. It was like a living Tamagotchi. Very obviously about Abs and the family reaction.
When do you get pics?
Is that at 20?
That would have to make it real. And you would need to post them here to make it realler anyway.
I have pics from the scan the other day.
At the moment it just looks like an alien though. I didn't feel that, "oh look! It's my baby!!!" reaction when I saw it. All I could think was, oh well, here we go I guess. It didn't help that she had to do an internal scan (meaning up the whatsit) which really sucked.
All I could think of was all the indignities a woman has to go through just to have a child. I'm just not really in the mood for all the poking and prodding. I felt like giving her a smack in the mouth by the time it was finished because I felt so violated.
Stupid, but that's how I felt.
btw, it was shaping up to be a good dream Sundae. It's a shame it got interrupted.
So, for those of you who've missed my complaints elsewhere, I'm still throwing up all over the place.
Anyway, today I went do the doc for a check up and had a winge to her. She put me on maxillon to try and stop the vomitting, so I've taken my first one.
The troubling thing was that my BP is going up even though I'm on medication. 140/92 today. Anything over 90 is a worry when you're pregnant apparently. something to do with blood flow to the placenta. When I was pregnant with Max I was hospitalised a couple of times because they were worried about it, but the high bp didn't even start till the third trimester last time. If it's going up already and I'm on medication, it's not a good sign. So anyway, she upped my medication for that, so we'll see what effect it's had by Friday when I go to the ante natal clinic at the hospital for my check in/let's hear all about it appointment. Hopefully it'll be better under control by then and I'll be fine.
Anyway, just thought I'd give you all an update.
Sorry its a rough one Ali.
Nature's way of telling you she's your last go-round Ali.
But yeah, /\ WHS/\.
Hang in there (and tell her the same).
Thanks guys. :) It'll be fine I'm sure.
I had my first hospital appointment today.
They want me to go for psychological assessment.
They are worried that I'm developing ante-natal depression.
I think it's just normal hormones and having been sick. It's natural not to be feeling on top of the world.
Anyway, I guess the psychologist will decide whether their suspicions are true.
It's hard to be objective when, like you say, the hormones are coursing through your veins. Ante-natal depression is common, and would be especially understandable given all the stress you're under. I'm glad you're going into it with an open mind; better to have it checked out, just like any other risk factor. How much longer before they tell you the gender? I don't know about you, but for me knowing the gender always alleviated stress, just because now I had something specific to plan for, you know?
Yeah, just a couple of weeks for that Clod. I'm looking forward to finding out, and yes, I do feel better as all those types of variables are ticked off.
I know I don't feel as emotionally strong as I need to, but I don't think I'm actually depressed. If I am, it's nowhere near as bad as it was after I had Max.
IIRC, that was quite a difficult time for you, right?
Yeah that's right classic. They put me on zoloft which really helped. I have been concerned that I'd go down the same path again after the baby was born. It never occurred to me that it might happen before.
Oh well, we'll see how it goes.
Well, I'm at the half way mark now. I will have a scan next week to determine the sex (hopefully).
I seem to be mostly over the sickness now which is a blessing. I still get a bit woozy and have the odd hurl, but mostly I'm pretty good. I was starting to feel pretty normal until the last day or so when I started getting a cold the kids have all had. I'm sure I'll survive it, although it's annoying that it's come just as I'm feeling a bit better.
Haven't heard from the hospital about being depressed. I don't really think I am. I just don't feel that desolate about everything. I'm not going to ring them and follow up about it because I don't think there's any need. I guess if they were that worried they'd have called me by now. It's been a month.
Anyway, that's it for now. If there's anything exciting to tell you about the scan, I will do so. Personally, I think it's going to be a girl, but I'd rather just have another boy. oh well. We don't always get what we want.
Your boys will all dote on a girl, you'lll have an easy parenthood......
If it's a girl, I'm hoping she'll just be a big nerd during her teenage years. I doubt I'll have the patience to deal with the usual teenage girl garbage when I'm in my 50's. lol I'll probably just ship her off to her big brothers and their wives (assuming they're settled by then).
you won't have to. Way older brothers will see to that shit, I'm telling you. She won't feel the need to create to get attention. and she'll probably fancy their friends so be good as gold.
I bloody hope not. Most of them will be at least 15 years older than her! lol
right. Safe as houses. She'll be interested, they wont.
They'd better not be or her big brothers will have a lot to say about it, and not just with their mouths I'd guess.
Anyway, I think I'd better just wait and see if my feelings are right before I start worrying about stuff that hasn't even happened yet (and in all likelihood wont anyway) lol.
exactly.
stop worring, period. Either way, they have competant sibs to help you out.
It's a girl!
I knew it was going to be.
Yay! I think a girl growing up in your household will have an awesome time and you're a great role model!
Thanks limey. :) I'm glad you think that. I doubt myself a lot lately, so something positive is very nice to hear. xxx
Fantastic Ali! Do the big boys know yet? They must be SO excited.
Oh that girl is going to have such a great time with all those big brothers. That's wonderful!
That is so exciting!!!
We should have a name contest!
I'm doubting that Cellaria will make the cut, but wouldn't it be cool if you actually named her Aliantha?
Thanks guys. We already have a name for this one, and it's not Aliantha. hehe
Eva Claire
Claire is for my cousin who died when we were just in our 20's after a riding accident, and Eva just because it's a nice classic name that should carry her through life without too many troubles.
Oh, and I think Aden at least is worried about this little girl being a spoiled brat who's going to cramp his style, which may in part be true, but with any luck she'll have a really sweet nature like Max which will take the edge off the other stuff.
Max just can't wait for her to arrive.
Mav is just taking it on the chin (which is a really funny phrase to have come to mind since he's sporting a couple of stitches there after a head clash at footy last night) and being fairly non committal about it all, which is his usual style so he doesn't have to eat his words later.
Does wolf know about this name?!
Very pretty!
I don't know Bri. I'm sure she will soon though. :)
Are you pronouncing it "ay-vah," or "ee-vah?"
How old is Aden now? I was thinking he'd be out of the house before this little girl even gets old enough to be a real brat, but maybe I've misremembered his age...
EEvaaaaahhh...Like in the movie wall-E (as has been pointed out since we picked the name).
Aden will be 16 when she's born (provided she's not more than 6 weeks early) so yeah, getting older, but he's planning on going to Uni which is just up the road from here, so I suspect he'll be around for a few years yet.
Oh I knew it was a girl as soon as you posted here!
(okay, just basic odds)
Happy for you :)
And laughin up my sleeve that everyone will assume you were holding out for a daughter. Like Posh & Becks.
Congrats, darling.
Thanks Sundae, and it's true that the reactions to it being a girl have been OTT to say the least, and all I can do is stand there and say, "yeah, it's a girl. Yeah, it's nice, but I probably would have preferred another boy." The look on some people's faces has been priceless. It goes everywhere from, 'are you crazy' to 'holy shit, you really are crazy'.
Don't say that Ali. Some thoughtless bitch is going to tell her you would have preferred a boy and that's a shitload of emotianal baggage for some.
Oh I'm pretty sure that when she's throwing a teenage girl hissy fit I'll lose my patience and say something like, "See, this behaviour is why I thought it would be easier to have another boy. Stop being such a girl!" ;)
Hopefully, at this point, because I've been such a wonderful parent so far, she'll laugh and go play in the mud or something.
Besides, I'm sure she'll get enough sooking throughout her life to make up for any bitchy comments that might come her way. :)
So, I mentioned elsewhere that the docs told me yesterday that I have gestational diabetes. It was a bit of a surprise, and I'm still in a bit of shock over it all, but my logical brain is already dealing with it. Emotionally it's a bit rough mostly because this is turning out to be a pretty difficult pregnancy and I just wasn't prepared for any other challenges.
So anyway, I'm supposed to eat small meals which are low in sugars and high in fibre every few hours. The biggest problem with this is that I'm just not that hungry really. I feel like if I start stuffing myself I'll just vomit. Anyway, I suppose I just have to have a cracker or a stick of celery or something in between main meals. I haven't really been eating that much at all though. I think my stomach has shrunk a bit after all the vomiting and even if it hasn't, I think I'll just get indigestion worse if I eat too much.
Life sux just at the moment, but I'm trying to bouy myself up with planning and getting started on setting up the room for the baby, which will realistically be here in as little as 10 weeks, so it's time to get started I guess.
First though, I have to have a rescan because they couldn't see some parts of the baby in the 20 week scan, so hopefully that'll all be fine and I wont have anything else to worry about on top of that.
The good news is, the medication seems to be keeping my BP close to normal so far, so as long as I don't forget to take it, things are ok that way.
Don't get pregnant when you're old. It sux.
You know I am happy for you Ali, and know you will cope and be a wonderful Mother (again) with your very awesome family.
Reading this has made me very very happy that our little conversation a month ago turned out the way it did!!!! :)
lol...I'm glad too Ducky. 40 is way too old to have another kid.
I'll be heading up to Dad's after the hol's. Hopefully we can have a catch up then. xxx
Fruit juices might be a bit high in sugar, but vegetable juices might be just the thing. Carrot/apple*/celery/ginger is good. What do you think?
*yeah, I know, so what.
They said I can have two pieces of fruit a day, or as much watermelon or strawberries as I like (within reason of course). Low in sugars.
I usually just drink water anyway, and my diet is not high in sugar in any case. I'm only just over the threshold, so I don't know if it might have had something to do with being sick at the time I took the test, but it doesn't matter too much now. I'll just modify my eating habits a bit and only have half a teaspoon in my coffee in the morning. I can give up deserts and sweets for 10 weeks or so. It's not like I've been eating much of that stuff so far anyway having been pretty crook a lot of the time.
I have to go to a learning session on Wednesday, and they'll give me one of those little pin prick tester things, so I'll know if I'm going wrong or not on a daily basis.
I'm less concerned about it than I was a few days ago now that I've had some time to do some research and get used to the idea. As far as I can tell, it's what comes after the pregnancy that's the real concern. I'll have to get straight back into the regimen I was in before I got preggers and dump any excess weight I have and generally get myself to the place I was heading for anyway, but without delay.
50% of women who have gestational diabetes end up with type 2 diabetes within 5 years. I don't intend to be a part of that statistic.
50% of women who have gestational diabetes end up with type 2 diabetes within 5 years. I don't intend to be a part of that statistic.
You go, girl!
I'm gonna go and go and go and go. ;)
They said I can have two pieces of fruit a day, or as much watermelon or strawberries as I like (within reason of course). Low in sugars.
Nothing at all to do with you, Ali, but it irritates me so much that they told you this.
Carbs=sugar as far as your body is concerned, and you would get
so much more bang for your buck by eliminating cereal/bread/pasta/rice/potatoes instead of fruit. But they know that the average person just isn't going to do that. So instead they tell you to give up fruit, because lots of people will do that.
Oh yeah I know all that already. I actually asked specifically about fruit because being winter here it's not as much salad weather, but fruit with plain yoghurt or something is nice still (I know, call me weird) or cheese and fruit is a nice snack food.
I'm just having a bircher muselie for breaky and then trying to stick to whole foods for the rest of the day, with mostly veges and proteins. It's going ok, and I feel fine anyway, so I think it'll all be fine.
Yeah, I know you're a smart chick and you'll be fine regardless. I'm just on a hair trigger about doctors trying to play nutritionist. Did they say you have to start the finger pricks right away, or is it a wait and see thing?
I'm going to an info session tomorrow and they'll be giving me a pricker thing (don't know what they're called) and then I have to keep a diary each day. Thursday I have to go to the specialist at the hospital for a check up, then up to the ante natal clinic just to make sure I've been told everything and know what I'm doing.
Personally, aside from the monitoring, I think I know most of the stuff I need to know now about diet and moderate exercise and when to eat what sorts of foods, but I'll go along anyway. It never hurts to make sure.
Better late than never, so....CONGRATULATIONS! I mean on the news of the gender of the baby. :)
When we were on the ward today a presumably deaf Grandma-type was talking loudly about my great-nephews.
That one is so tiny! Oh look! What a tiny baby!
and then after a while:
There's another one! OMG there's another on in the same cot! Look, two tiny ones!
By this time I was holding Liam and turned and smiled at her. She then told me everything she had been saying previously (hence my assumption that she was hard of hearing). I explained that as they were twins they were premature, but they were both healthy. At which point she told me proudly that her first grandchild was carried to term and weighed in at 8lbs. Fair enough, love - you weren't carrying her. But she did win me round by exclaiming that this was her first grandchild [again] and it was a girl. She'd had boys. I thought anyone that pleased with a grand-daughter might be tactless but can't be all bad.
How does your Dad feel Ali?
Pleased to have a Princess in the family, or weighing up how much use she'd be farming? ;)
Oh he's pretty excited. He loves his grandkids much more than the ones that were the direct fruit of his loins (or so it seems to me and my brother at times lol)! Like a lot of grandparents, he seems to have had a bit of a rethink about where he might have gone wrong as a parent and does things a little differently with the grandies (as he calls them). Of course, not having to deal with them day to day makes a big difference too. ;)
My Mum has a magnet on the fridge that says, "If I knew how much fun grandchildren were, I'd have had them first" :)
Lately I've been having these flashes of feelings that are really bothering me. Sometimes I feel like this baby inside me is some kind of alien and it's killing me. I know in my logical mind it's just a baby growing, but these feelings are really intense. It's really weird. I feel so invaded or something. I know other women feel like their body is not their own anymore when they're pregnant, and I have felt that way with the other three too, but this is a bit different. It's like I feel really distressed and on the verge of a panic attack now and then. Not too often, but often enough to make me wonder if my mind is going soft on me again...and this time, before I even give birth. I know they were worried that I might have ante natal depression earlier on, but mostly I've been ok, so haven't worried about counselling or medication, but I'm wondering if maybe I should have taken up the hospital's offer.
Can anyone tell me if this is normal? Please?
Having never been pregnant myself, feel free to completely disregard my opinions, BUT -
Post pardum runs pretty heavily in my family (although I don't think anyone was officially diagnosed because they had their babies so long ago) ... what you're describing sounds a lot like the story my grandmother tells about my mom as a baby.
My mom was baby #3 in 3 years for my grandmother so I'm guessing by this point she was probably pretty overwhelmed being that she got married and then pregnant at 18, 19, and 20. She claims that when she was pregnant with my mom, she felt that god didn't want her to have the baby and that she needed to get rid of it...she even tried to toss herself down the stairs at one point. I would say if the feelings are intense like a panic attack and you're worried enough to ask us about it, you should probably speak to your doctor. When my mom was born she was awful to everyone except my grandmother...they bonded instantly and they're still the closest of all the kids...hormones do weird stuff.
PS my grandmother is not, and has never been, a particularly religious person...so this was unusual in all regards for her to be thinking
Today marks the 36th week for this baby. Last week I had a scan and she's pretty large. She's a reasonable birth weight already, and likely to put on another 2 lbs before she's born if she's allowed to stay in the full term. I have an appointment on wednesday with the clinic, so I suspect they might pick a date for her to be born. Hopefully soon. Any time after next week will be just fine by me. I'm so over this.
Today marks the 36th week for this baby. Last week I had a scan and she's pretty large. She's a reasonable birth weight already, and likely to put on another 2 lbs before she's born if she's allowed to stay in the full term. I have an appointment on wednesday with the clinic, so I suspect they might pick a date for her to be born. Hopefully soon. Any time after next week will be just fine by me. I'm so over this.
It just keeps getting more and more exciting. By "they might pick a date", do you mean the doctors might choose when the baby will be born, and not the baby? I find that kind of backwards. Or upside downunder or something. But seriously, not joking about your pregnancy. You're the boss, not me. I'm just very curious.
If they decide to induce (or section) then they choose the date.
No point in keeping the baby in if she is fully developed and increased weight will cause more birth trauma for mother and daughter.
And you do have the two week window as discussed in the other thread.
really? in all cases? Glad my docs disagreed.
I can't say about all cases because I only heard from new Mums who were going to be induced - making us aware they would need to pick up carseats and other items early. In many cases it was because the baby would be large enough to cause a difficult birth if left.
Women who carried past their official due date didn't need to contact us in the shop.
So I admit my experience is biased.
My brother was nearly two weeks overdue and over 10lbs. Oof! Then again, he was her third. He was close to crowning by the time she arrived at the hospital, they skipped the maternity ward and took her straight to the birthing room.
37 and a half weeks now. They said last week that they wouldn't induce till the 39th week unless something happened such as my BP going sky high. Guess what, it has gone up. 140/100 last night. That'll probably be enough for them to consider it in any case. I think it'd depend how busy the birthing unit is.
I think she's on her way over the next few days anyway. My bowels have been what you might refer to as 'loose' over the last couple of days. I can feel her down pretty low now. I can breath again (which is great) and the indigestion has lessened somewhat. I've had a few minor contractions, but nothing to write home about and my lower back is aching and I've had small bits of the mucous plug coming out.
All pretty classic signs which can mean imminent labour. Those things can go on for weeks though. They'll probably do an internal today and find out if my cervix is dilated at all. That will be a better indication, although still wont confirm anything much.
Over here, when you're considered a high risk pregnancy - which I am because of my age, the GDM, previous issues with pregnancy related depression and hypertension - many hospitals will choose to induce at somewhere between 37 and 38 weeks. The one I'm going to this time prefers not to induce which is fine, but I'd still like her out sooner rather than later. Preferably today. :)
eta: As the patient, unless you're considered mentally unfit, you do have the choice to decline induction. It's a tough decision really, because it is usually only considered if it's in the best interest of the mother and child, so you would have to agree to other strategies such as bed rest etc if the hospital considers your choice to be wrong. Often the choice to decline will mean the hospital will want to give you drugs of one form or another to help with symptoms of whatever it is that's causing you to be high risk, but induction means taking drugs to get you started on labour anyway, so it really comes down to personal choice and weighing up your options and pros vs cons.
No point in keeping the baby in if she is fully developed and increased weight will cause more birth trauma for mother and daughter.
And you do have the two week window as discussed in the other thread.
"fully developed" ??? a human baby isn't fully developed in the womb. They're born just before their heads can't fit through the birth canal. being able to survive outside the womb is one definition of "fully developed", but not the most helpful one. I think in most cases, the baby / mother "know" when it's time to be born, and OF COURSE this has been the most successful method for countless generations before doctors with tee times were involved in the process.
I don't know about downunda, but here in the US, there's an alarming rise in the number of c-sections, and frankly, the evidence for the medical necessity of the increase was less than the evidence for the convenience of the doctor or the mother etc. Not always what is best for the baby. The jab about tee times is not all snark.
I just want the best for Aliantha and her baby. If that means induction, or natural birth or c-section, whatever. Some would say not having a womb disqualifies me for an opinion, but I have one anyway. Lots of them, strong ones, ones I hold deeply inside myself.
Opinions that is.
"...preferably today"
Best of luck Ali! You can do it. :D
Well, after about 5 hours at the hospital they let me go home. I have to go back for another ecg on the baby's heart on Sunday just to make sure it's not under duress. she was fine today though, so that's good. They did a scan also to confirm that her head is down now which is a relief, so the chances of a natural delivery just went up by about 200%. To use the doctors words, 'the head is firmly in place and unlikely to pop out again', so the signs for a spontaneous labour are looking good. All my bloods and urine are good. They are still concerned about my BP though, so when I go back next Wednesday if she hasn't come naturally, they want to discuss induction.
I think she'll be here in the next few days though.
All the best, Ali ... sending good wishes and positive thoughts for you and the baby, hoping all happens naturally and goes well in the next few days.
"fully developed" ??? a human baby isn't fully developed in the womb. They're born just before their heads can't fit through the birth canal. being able to survive outside the womb is one definition of "fully developed", but not the most helpful one. I think in most cases, the baby / mother "know" when it's time to be born, and OF COURSE this has been the most successful method for countless generations before doctors with tee times were involved in the process.
Nature doesn't always get it right though. Especially in these days where mothers and babies are heavier and better nourished than when we evolved.
Childbirth is still a gamble for mother and baby, even in the West, let alone globally. I understand that you are saying it should not be done for convenience sake, but there are many C-sections and inductions done for the health and the safety of mother and baby. Countless generations only succeeded in passing on their genes by having a large amount of children and/ or marrying a second time. That's nature.
Leaving a baby in the womb until natural childbirth occurs is not always feasible. My great nephews for example. And yet many women do carry twins to term.
Sorry, forgot to say - all the best Ali and babba!
I expect that the next time I read a post from you it will have a photo attached.
Evolution gets us to the point where the increased intelligence of giant-headed babies is enough of an advantage that it offsets the increased deaths in childbirth. I'm all for using those giant heads to find ways to decrease birth complications.
Of course, medical procedures can have unintended consequences, but that hardly distinguishes them from nature's way.
Best of luck, however you do it, Aliantha!
Well, I'm still here, and no pics. Sorry Sundae. ;)
Going to test drive a new (second hand) car today. Maybe the excitement will have benefits. lol
Please take these Pics with the Humor intended ;)
A hard, calcified heart, and a baby teething in the womb! That's a scary Halloween costume!
Witches and wizards are born with a full set of teeth.
Now THAT would be scary.
Any news, Ali?
Nope. :( She feels like she's moved even lower though, and I've lost a few chunks of gunk, so things are progressing, albeit slowly.
How low can you go, baby...
Mum's thinking of you too (you two?) and sends her love.
Tell your Mum thanks Sundae. :) It's very kind of her to think of us. xxx
Had to go to the hospital again yesterday for another checkup. They want to see me bi-weekly now because of my issues. Anyway, still a few concerns about the baby's heart rate. Yesterday it was pretty low. Around 115 at the lowest point, then up pretty high, about 175 at the highest. They're not sure why it's doing that, but both readings fall in the normal category, but at the extremes, so not quite bad enough to panic, but enough to be concerned. I imagine there'll be quite a few tests after she's born just to make sure everything's working ok. It's possibly just related to her sleeping or being active, coupled with my BP and sugar issues, on top of me being tired and irritable as all expectant mothers are by this stage.
So anyway, I have to go again on Wednesday. They want to talk about induction then. Hopefully if she's not here by then, it'll be on Thursday. Dazza has to go away in the first week of October, so it'd be nice if he had at least one week before he has to leave.
Mama Cass and Twiggy were born on 19 September.
Not a bad birthday to share for mini-Ali!
I'm hoping for the 16th/17th. :)
Rosh Hashanah on the 17th.
You can ask Sheldon to be her fairy godfather.
Hahaha...I'm sure Sheldon would be a great FGF, but he's a bit far away to do much real good.
Anyway, we're nearly half way into the 17th and not even looking like joy, so you'll have to look something up for the 18th I think mate. ;)
Thanks Griff. 38 weeks today. I feel like I need some luck or something. lol I really thought she'd be here by now.
If you hang on for another week, you'll have to call her monster.....
haha...she is already referred to as 'the little monster' from time to time.
then you're all set. monster it is. proceed with the birthing at your leisure.
But 23 is also a prime number, a great date to be born on. 19 is acceptable, but shared with my niece.
I might wait till the 19th, but if she's not here by the 23rd I'm going to kill myself. lol
19th and you'll have to call her Oral i mean Orla. Her name is Orla.
Well, I don't like that name either V!
Just checked my cervix and it's finally starting to dilate, so who knows. Maybe tonight! :)
far be it from me to argue with a woman in labor, so, I withdraw the remarks!
I'm very excited for you and the baby!
lol...I think pushing is frowned upon at this stage considering I haven't have a contraction yet. Well not one worth noting anyway. Just a few tightenings. Things could stay this way for days yet. I'm not getting my hopes up, but I may do a few squats later on. ;)
Well, the good news is that I had contractions for about 4 hours last night. Probably 2 dozen of them or so. The bad news is, they never really intensified to hurt much more than the cramps you get when you've got the runs, so pretty sad. Then they just petered out.
Maybe some time today they'll make a return visit.
Geez will you Drop this Kid all ready !!!!!!!! ;)
Good luck
Half a pound of tuppeny rice
A nice T-bone of panther
That the way the money goes
and pop goes Aliantha.
haha...I'd like to pop. My cervix is at about 2cm now, so not much improvement. I'm going to make a cake with Max soon. Maybe that will help? lol It can be quite trying cooking with a 3yr old you know.
Make it chocolate -the smell might tempt her out. Hebe's pretty sure she was born to eat chocolate.
Well the cake is good, and the baby is still not here. :( We did put chocolate sprinkles on it, and I just ate a piece. Maybe that will help. :)
Come on, baby!
Let's do the twist! .... or not, but still, COME ON, BABY!
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No. Don't hang in there. Let GO!!
Go watch some bungee jumpers, give her the right idea.
Nope. Going to the hospital for a check up soon though. I'm going to bitch and moan so much that they'll induce me just to shut me up. :)
Dear Baby:
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Get Busy Child.[/COLOR]
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Hey there Ali
I guess the exercise ideas, the food suggestions, motivational music and sexyfuntime haven't helped. How about a makeup tip?
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Have you considered using a shop vac? I know they use industrial sized one to suck pararie dogs out of their holes. Just an idea...
Ali and Daz want the beautiful daughter promised by their genes.
Not a cone head.
Give it a little of this, Ali....
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(and post the video :D)
That dance is so funny. lol
They're inducing me next Tuesday if she's not here before. 5 more days.
The good news is, while I was at the hospital yesterday, Mav and his g/f Katie stayed home to look after Max, and while they were at it, they cleaned the house and got everything tidy for me. While I know my big boys do try their hardest, I know it wasn't Mav's idea to do the tidying, so he'd better hang onto this girl. She's so lovely. I told her yesterday I just want to steal her (from her father and step mother) and keep her for myself. I think she was actually pretty keen on the idea. lol
So anyway, the wait continues. :(
I'm telling you..... Sunday......
Sunday is our wedding anniversary. I could have booked in for induction then, but I don't want the childs birthday on one of 'my' days. Sunday night would be ok though, cause she'd technically be born on Monday if I can get her to hang about till after midnight. :)
I thought it was a bit funny when i realised what my shirt says.
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Sorry bout the mirror writing. You're all smart enough to figure out what it says. I cant be bothered getting up again to do the pic again.
I read it as Get Out You Little Bitch.
But then I held a mirror up and realised what it said.
haha to you both. lol I just thought it was funny last night, cause i'm pretty sure it'll tickle a little bit more than a little.
Wow Ali. That's quite a set of knockers. Yes, I know I'm a perv