You RFN, 2012
I thought I'd open this thread with a pic of what I carry on me everyday. No wonder I keep having to hike up my britches. Here's my standard list:
1. Sig P220 (.45) with internal laser
2. Paraframe knife
3. Carabiner with department office keys
4. Patrol car key with make a wish and Big Sarge fobs (carry for good luck)
5. Department cellphone and personal cellphone
6. A Streamlight light I wear around my neck
This is for standard admin days. You ought to see the crap when I carry my duty belt. Oh, I had to show off my Sundae calendar too, so I used it as a backdrop
Gibbs Rule #9: Never go anywhere without a knife.
Rule #10
Never go anywhere without your handmade key chain from Wolf.
I keep on looking at the stuffs and wonder why Sundae carry these things. And patrol car, what patrol car is she talking about? School appointed cars are called patrol cars in England? Sundae carries a gun, a knife and a Streamlight?? It wasn't until while reading the post for the fifth time that I realized it was Big Sarge's post. I looked over and Big Sarge's name confirmed it for me. Sundae's picture threw me off. :p:
She has horns. Or a keyhat.
Are you implying Sundae is horny??
:::::grumbles that I didnt get any friggin fudge from Wolf and NOW I dont have a keychain either:::::
Ha - kidding....well, about the keychain, not the fudge.
I keep on looking at the stuffs and wonder why Sundae carry these things. And patrol car, what patrol car is she talking about? School appointed cars are called patrol cars in England? Sundae carries a gun, a knife and a Streamlight?? It wasn't until while reading the post for the fifth time that I realized it was Big Sarge's post. I looked over and Big Sarge's name confirmed it for me. Sundae's picture threw me off. :p:
Same over here! :lol2: - "Wouldn't want to meet her in a dark alley, after all," was what I thought.
Well in the right mood, meeting Sundae in a dark alley could be... you know ... :D
so i guess i'm stickin with the new facial fluff, this is about as good as it gets after five weeks growth.
It's a little raggedy - could use a trim. But it's a good look for you.
Hey, look at you! I think that's the first clear shot of yourself that you have posted.
Nice to see you. :D
My first thought, I swear it, was "Hey, those glasses go well with your face."
Then, "Oh, right!!!!"
*waves at spexxie*
Nice to see you! I love your glasses. If I lived near you I'd make you find the perfect pair for my face. (Probably something from the 'clown' section.) :)
Hey Spexxie, long time no see :)
And Hey UT as well, I dont think you age at all!!
Ha! My beard is scraggy and gray right now as well. Now I have an excuse to keep it in play, since it is now the official look of teh cellar.
Ok, since beards is the parole of the day, ...
... I haven't shaved for a few days either.
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Nice! seriously - How long has it been? [COLOR="Yellow"] since you shaved, ya pervert[/COLOR]
all your beard are belong to us
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I'm in.
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Ohh...it's so nice to see how everyone looks. :D
Lola Bunny, we need another cute peek at you!
I rode the lightning today. 50,000 volts from a Taser. Yep, I screamed like a bitch. I've been shot, stabbed, burned, pepper sprayed, and this hurt like a MF!!!!
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Can you taste your fillings BS ??
I hear thats a side effect .
Oh and what Classic said
Was that really you getting tasered, Sarge?!!? Hahaha....what were you guys doing tasering the Chief like that?
And this is me, right before exercising earlier tonight. Hmm...that was right after I replied in this thread. :p:
Lola , If they carry a Taser they have to know what it feels like ,
hurts like a Byotch from what i hear
Sarge, I feel your pain. I too have been pepper sprayed and tasered. It sucked, I'll take the pepper spray any day.
Awww Lola Bunny that smile makes my pain go away. The guys holding me were to keep me from falling and hurting myself if my kneees collapsed. I took the full shot (programmed 5 seconds) with a regular street load to set an example for my guys. That way they could see how to pull the barbed metal probes out of the skin. Other guys were stunned using clip on leads or "drive stunned" (touching prongs to skin).
Ya'll notice I'm getting some serious butt erosion?? I'm thinking about implants or falsies
Wow Sarge - way to take one for the team!
That looks bloody awful.
Lola, you look so calm and serene.
That's the only way in which your face resembles the moon.
I'm impressed and a little concerned about that tasering. Be careful Sarge, honey.
Lola, you are soooo pretty.
at my old job a guy taking police academy courses told me they had a choice: get taseres or pepper sprayed. I would need a third choice, like 'go get an ice cream cone.'
Because OUCH!
It seems a little crazy for someone with your health history to get tasered. But I'm glad folks that use them have to know what it feels like, otherwise you get...
One of the best ones I"ve seen yet Griff.
We need some pics of the guys without the facial bush, a counter to the grizzly adams motif. Anyone?
The promotion to MSG. Yes my title now can be misconstrued as monosodium glutamate. So, that's me on the left, the company First Sergeant in the middle, and Mrs. Joe on the right. She can hit harder then she looks.
Now you see, not knowing anything about the military - especially not foreign military - I would assume that all those with the spanky coloured caps would outrank you.
But that would seem a little mean at a photo-op for your promotion.
Do let me know.
It's heartwarming regardless. Congrats to you again and hello to Mrs Joe.
If she's used to fighting for you I don't doubt she packs a wallop.
You see Sundae - those colorful hats have no brim like Joes.
They're obviously below him as they still have to deal with the sun in their eyes.
Promotions come with brimmed hats like his. ;)
Congrats there TOP !!!
Looken good Lola :)
congrats msg. proud for you buddy!!
sarge? freakin' OUCH!!!
great pic lola!
congrats Joe!
and me trying out the timer on my nikon for the first time....
plth...you look like a cross between John Malkovic and Kevin Costner in that pic! You can take that however you like. lol
that is in really bad need of a hair cut!
The promotion to MSG. ...
Congratulations MSG.joe, 27 came up fast.
Sundae, the maroon berets signify airborne troops in our Army, I just came in for a morning off of leave to get pinned and did not have my beret on.
27 Came up much faster then I and a lot of others thought it would. I'm not complaining.
Plthi, whatis that on your computer screen???
Sundae, the maroon berets signify airborne troops in our Army.
So it has nothing to do with your hat having a brim? :p:
Me. RFN.
I finished work on Friday but knew I was getting sick. I've been recovering all weekend, so I look a bit like a hermit.
The beard helps me keep warm.:D
Hey Rich! looking good man. Hope you're feelin better.
Hey Rich! Good to see you. Now get back to posting some knappping pics
..Plthi, whatis that on your computer screen???
that'd be AutoCad 2008. I was working on a 480v one-line diagram for an MCC (motor control center) that i had to get done by today to send it to the vendor for quote and turn around time on one of my engineering projects.
Howdeh Rich!!
these are from when i still had long hair. a receant beard trimming disaster is holding me back from posting current photo's.
I was thinking:
I was thinking:
Trace, that second shot of you guys on the slide is brilliant.
I agree with Dana. And I was thinking:
Yes!!! I was wondering who he reminded me of in those pics :)
y'all crack me the fuck up!!!
So far, 2 out of 3 dwellars think you look like Chris Cooper. Maybe we should do a poll. Then someone in the charts and graphs department can give us a visual...pie graph, maybe?
3 out of 4. That was the point of my thank you to foot. I knew philthy reminded me of someone, but couldn't think who.
don't listen to them philthy - Chris Cooper and Cat Stevens wish they could look like us!
Me, RFN. New hair color - blue-black, in case you wondered, lol. Also fresh from the gym...so zilch in the makeup department.
... very good. I prefer the natural look. :)
You boys all say that....but I dont believe you!
Awesome pics Stormie. That second one is really neat. Have you done some sort of light effect on it? It looks really arty.
So far, 2 out of 3 dwellars think you look like Chris Cooper. Maybe we should do a poll. Then someone in the charts and graphs department can give us a visual...pie graph, maybe?
Oops. I didn't recognise F3's pic as Chris Cooper. :blush:
... very good. I prefer the natural look. :)
Yeah, although a top hat might look good on you.;)
Awesome pics Stormie. That second one is really neat. Have you done some sort of light effect on it? It looks really arty.
Yes, I played with it in photoshop. Removed most of the color and increased the contrast. Just messing around :blush:
Very nice, Stormie. You look great! Kinda makes me think:
Is that Jody Foster ? :rolleyes:
Here I am screwing up again. I got the Tahoe stuck today. That's me laying in the mud hooking the cable
Didn't you call that number on the back of the car?
Next time throw your car mats under your wheels and nobody will be the wiser. I come from a long line of cover-up artists. Seriously, how can an SUV get stuck there?
facyory pursuit version. lowered body and soft tires. faster than a crown vic, but a pure gas hog.
traceur, your long hair makes you look like a Pacific Islander, a Samoan or Tongan.
traceur, your long hair makes you look like a Pacific Islander, a Samoan or Tongan.
naa...
ok, maybe a little bit:
but if anything, hawaiian:
see the resamblance? if only Khal Drogo was allowed to make it across the narrow sea into victory, sattle down to grow fat, who would he look like?! me with a crazy hair day.
...except that i have short hair now.
things change faster then pictures.
So what is your heritage? The long hair look fit you well.
i'm Israeli. my heritage is mixed Lithuanian jewish and spanish jewish.
and the long hair is a funny story:
my xwife, talented and extraordinarily coordinated little fuck that she is, was capable of giving herself haircuts. and i mean full haircuts, professional good looking haircuts... to herself.
and she used to give me haircuts too... until that one day she shaped the side of my hair in a way i didn't like and commented on, and she was never willing to do it herself again. for awhile nobody did, until one day i figured, hey, it looks so easy when she cuts her own hair, i'm sure i can do it...
i couldn't. i really really couldn't. the disaster was so bad that there was only one way for her to save it: take it all down with my beard trimmer.
it was a sad day, after about 5 years of not having a haircut since the army, it was gone.
Grow it again man. It becomes you.
Yeah, although a top hat might look good on you.;)
You mean
just a top hat, right?
Nice to put a face to Trace.
Lola, you are soooo pretty.
I know this is late, but thank you for the compliment. :hug: A compliment coming from a woman always mean more. :p: Well, your "soooo" meant alot. :p:
Sundae: My face was a "full moon" about 5 lbs ago. :D
Khal Drogo is hawt! I definitely think you should grow it out again.
Cookout with the kids. I think this is the first time you have seen my son, Louis. Notice how I cook my hot dogs over the fire vs the kids
Louis, Addie, & I in the "tree house". Addie says you have to be a princess and know the secret password to come in. Finally, Louis teaching Addie to shoot a .22 rifle. Addie kept all of her shots on "paper" at 10 yards. This fall the deer had better watch out.
You family all look very happy.
Much joy to you and thanks for sharing.
I like the fact you are a real father, and the children (and those who are not children any more) are an inclusive family.
The fly in the ointment would be if you knocked me up.
No guns for my daughter.
Could they accept a far left sibling?
:)
we kind of knew this Sundae/Sarge flirtation would turn up difficult at some point
The fly in the ointment would be if you knocked me up.
No guns for my daughter.
Could they accept a far left sibling?
:)
I'm sure, like me, they prefer their leftists unarmed.
Actually, Bryanna didn't go because she is anti-gun/hunting. We still love her even if she is a Democrat (liberal). LOL. So Sundae, there won't be a problem at all
Yay!
She'll still say "shed-yule" though.
I'm sure, like me, they prefer their leftists unarmed.
:D
Yay!
She'll still say "shed-yule" though.
As you learned in Elementary Shool, right?
Sarge, I just want to commend you on cooking hot dogs over the fire, vs the kids.
sarge, i'll just go out and say it:
you have an adorable daughter, and a wife that looks like she can be your twin.
sarge, i'll just go out and say it:
you have an adorable daughter, and a wife that looks like she can be your twin.
I think you're suffering from generational shift, traceur. You're probably looking at Sarge's son and daughter, and thinking they are Sarge and wife?
I think you're suffering from generational shift, traceur. You're probably looking at Sarge's son and daughter, and thinking they are Sarge and wife?
i was thinking about the two adults at the top picture lighting a fire...
those are his kids? they actually are ciblings?
Yes. In the tree house Sarge is on the left, with his daughter Addie in the middle and son Louis on the right, as I understand it.
Addie looks like she's having the most fun time.
That's it right there. That's the stuff you carry with you always. Time stretching out and all the world yours. Brother and sister at your back, Dad tending the fire. She's storing up adventures to remember.
I can still conjure those times of adventure with me, Mum and my bro. And midnight park walks with Dad, spotting owls and hedgehogs.
Open a dictionary and look under the word 'secure' and there should be a picture of a small child surrounded by attentive siblings and fun parents. That pic, up there in fact.
And shooting things. You left that out.
Me here at the doctor's office. Over 2 weeks sick and today was the worst.
Traceur - Those are my kids. LOL. My son is 28 & my daughters are 18, 15, & 4. Thanks for the compliment though. The 15 year old stayed at home
Rich, you need to get better. We need more paleo on here.
Get well soon Rich!
From that photo I diagnose solemnitis. You need to spend more time here.
Or piles, it's hard to say.
HLJ - With regards to paleo, I was refering to his flint knapping. I'm impressed by his work. As far as old people, this board is filled with enough old women on here. Why are we stuck with all of these old crones?
I didn't know Rich did flint knapping.
Cool! Yeah Rich show us your stuff!
As far as old people, this board is filled with enough old women on here. Why are we stuck with all of these old crones?
I am still of child-bearing age, as are many Lady Dwellars.
We just keep away from you because you like making babies
a bit too much :p:
You old fox.
Sundae, you are still ok (less than 40).
Or piles, it's hard to say.
Cracked me up.
Sarge, looks like y'all had a great time. :thumb2:
Rich: Hope you feel better soon. Hopefully the next picture is when you're all better. :D
Rich, it's not how you feel, it's how you look! and you look...
well, you look like you don't feel well.
Get better.
3F - Rich doesn't knapp. I had another brain slip. I was thinking about you
I was thinking about you
It's the thought that counts!
HLJ - With regards to paleo, I was refering to his flint knapping. I'm impressed by his work. As far as old people, this board is filled with enough old women on here. Why are we stuck with all of these old crones?
I read the bold text at flint kidnapping.
Foot is right Rich. You don't look well. I hope you feel better soon. xxx
Well this is RF Saturday, I was in Novi MI for a dog show...
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Well this is RF Saturday, I was in Novi MI for a dog show...
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And you didn't stop by to say hi? :cry:
NOVI got its name from being Railroad station #6, btw.
...and it's lss than half an hour away and i bet you drove right past Ann Arbor......
I thought of you as I drove past the Ann Arbor sign down 96 trying to stay on the road, the weather was so horrible Thursday. I don't even know how I made it there! I had 4 dogs with me and I thought well Monster does not like dogs so I better keep driving ;)
Thanks Bruce :blush:
I know I'm vain, but I worked too damn hard not to show off. So, here's me trying to show off my 25 1/2" waist. Taken this afternoon. :D
OMG!! You are so beautiful...
I thought of you as I drove past the Ann Arbor sign down 96 trying to stay on the road, the weather was so horrible Thursday. I don't even know how I made it there! I had 4 dogs with me and I thought well Monster does not like dogs so I better keep driving ;)
Thanks Bruce :blush:
That's a fair point, I'd'a been kind of freaked out (would you have been able to tell the difference, though? :lol:)
I know I'm vain, but I worked too damn hard not to show off. So, here's me trying to show off my 25 1/2" waist. Taken this afternoon. :D
Beautiful as always
@lola:
Ah.....boy....yoi...yoing!
Sent using magic.
Is that a white ribbon on the side or is that a semi-transparent panel?
Very slinky either way.
Lola you have always been gorgeous, but I'm so happy you feel it now and that makes all the work you've done worthwhile.
You go girl.
(Do Vietnamese Daddies have shotguns?)
Well this is RF Saturday, I was in Novi MI for a dog show...
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But not if the puppy was watching.
Thank you everyone for your comments. :)
Sundae: The white part is my pants. The dress splits from the waist down so there's a front and back panel.
You look stunning lola. :)
End of the month and the pantry is kind of low. I lucked up on a fat little buck at dusk. I cooked him whole on a spit over the fire. Plus I had some left over greens and cornbread
Here I am skinning him out with an obsidian knife I made
The Road Runner would be proud!
By "buck" I thought you meant deer, and I was very surprised to try to picture you cooking such a thing whole on a spit...
Bunny slippers are sooooooooooooooooo comfortable and warm
Looks good Sarge. It's great that you have that option.
I have to say the photo of you is a little Blair Witch though.
Hey I live in the woods and I think the Blair Witch Project was made where my trailer is parked!!! LOL. I was really showing off the obsidian knife I had made and how sharp it was
Yes but by Blair Witch I mean lacking focus and a bit pants :lol:
I know I'm vain, but I worked too damn hard not to show off. So, here's me trying to show off my 25 1/2" waist. Taken this afternoon. :D
If I were to ever go blind, I hope it's right after I look at that picture. I could happily be blind for the rest of my life, with that as my last sight.
You are an absolute vision in that dress!
:love:
The dress splits from the waist down so there's a front and back panel.
You mean like, you
could've shown a little leg, but didn't?
:mad:
You mean like, you could've shown a little leg, but didn't?
:mad:
Hahahahahah....ain't just a little leg. I would be showing everything from my waist down. :3_eyes: That outfit is worn with pants. :p:
If I were to ever go blind, I hope it's right after I look at that picture. I could happily be blind for the rest of my life, with that as my last sight.
You are an absolute vision in that dress!
:love:
You're too sweet to say that. But please don't go blind. How would you see future pictures? Hihi....:D
Come on Lola, show us a little leg. Pleeeeeezzzzzzz!!! BTW, did you get the "special picture" i sent you on your phone?
Come on Lola, show us a little leg. Pleeeeeezzzzzzz!!! BTW, did you get the "special picture" i sent you on your phone?
Hmm....since you're so earnest, I'll think about it....some. :p: As for your "special picture," nopes, I received nothing from you. Just double checked my phone, nothing from you.
so, i put some holes in my ears?
Is that a question?
they look good.
Nice, I have one earring myself. Not especially feminine, or androgynous for that matter. But you look kinda cute in that shot.
Are you using a lip plumper (cosmetic not surgical) there?
Looks good.
If not, Benefit have some real zingers. They tingle and increase the bloodflow or something. Enough to make you look like you've just been kissed roughly.
As you do in that photo!
I'm not mad on piercings, but I like the two you have.
There's a third in the other lobe, too. I have naturally fairly fat lips, haven't needed to plump them much really, i think. I usually go with a little bit of powder, some lipstick or gloss, some concealer for my shadow/stubble, and some mascara.
If those are natural then you probably don't need plumpers. But try one anyway. You'd look even more kissable!
Lola - Ref that picture you sent to my phone:
I'd eat it!!!!:censored:
If those are natural then you probably don't need plumpers. But try one anyway. You'd look even more kissable!
They're kissable enough for me. ;) I'm not sure if the plumpers may be a good idea. He may end up looking like he got punched in the mouth. :p:
Btw, Ibram, VERY CUTE! :thumb2:
Lola - Ref that picture you sent to my phone:
I'd eat it!!!!:censored:
Very good. :D
@ Sarge: that looks awesome. Love the knife!
@ Ibica: damn kid, you're so cute it should be illegal.
@ Lola: God's teeth, you are stunning. I mean you always look lovely in photos (don't recall ever seeing one of you where you didn;t look pretty) but you look like a Bond girl in that shot. Drop dead gorgeous. One of the Beautiful People.
He may end up looking like he got punched in the mouth.
*she
;)
*she
;)
But you still have the penis, right? Because if you don't, then I have to cross you off my bucket list of things to do before I die. ;-)
I know you mean that good-naturedly, but I have to lodge my objection to it, on the grounds that comments like that are A.) essentially binarist in a way that makes me uncomfortable, and B.) is the sort of comment that, by boiling identity down to genitalia, contributes to a massive sense of trans* erasure and sex-essentialism that makes me very uncomfortable.
I'm trying to not get on your case here but still make clear why I think that's a damaging comment, please don't take it personally, I know what you meant, but... I think you could stand to rethink the expression of your sentiment a little. I feel like what you're saying is, on a fundamental level, "well, whatever you call yourself, you're man enough for me", by boiling it down to my plumbing. I understand that your identity as gay puts you in as awkward a position when it comes to your attractions towards the trans* community, the same way it puts a straight girl in an awkward position - but taking an essentialist, binarist position as justification only further marginalizes the trans* community.
He called you a thing with a penis. Utterly objectifying you. I don't see any gender language there at all, binarist, trans* or otherwise.
Yeah. Humor, or at least attempted humor.
I see the comment as a reflection of Sheldon's sexuality. He says, if you don't have a penis he's not interested, cause that's what he likes.
ibramica, you gotta stop smoking that shit.
I see the comment as a reflection of Sheldon's sexuality. He says, if you don't have a penis he's not interested, cause that's what he likes.
And I think that defining things that way, especially to my face, would, coming from a stranger, strike me as offensive. Because it's Shel, and I like Shel and fundamentally believe the best about him, I know that's not what he's trying to say. I'm just trying to point out how comments like that can be hurtful, regardless of intent. I'm not sore or trying to be contrarian, I'm just saying that
even if Shel is only interested in people with dicks, using that sort of language and talking about identity, gender, sex, and sexuality in those terms is fraught with peril and it is quite easy to be accidentally hurtful or to, without any malice, without even being aware of it, say things that can feel exclusionary, binarist, and sex-essentialist to those on the non-cisgendered side of things.
Not so very long ago, "i don't mind gay people, I just don't want them rubbing it in my face", or any other variant of the "as long as they don't do it around me" argument, would have been a fairly progressive point of view. But now, to most people, it sounds dated and prejudicial - like it assumes that, while straight people keep sex private, gay people are likely to take it too far, or do it in public, or try to coerce uninterested parties into participation. I really hope that one of these days, comparing a sensitivity to gender issues to being high will sound equally dated. And even if you think I'm being ridiculous by standing up for them, I'm going to KEEP being vocal about defending my identity and on trans* issues that I think aren't being adequately represented here. You can put me on the loony fringe if you like, but I at least want to make the "fringe", progressive, queer, activist trans* point of view heard. The same way one oversensitive nigger ain't gonna keep everyone from saying "black", I don't expect one oversensitive tranny to keep you guys from straying into what i consider vaguely offensive, trans*-erasive, sexist commentary. I know the Cellar is going to be a lot more accepting and positive than most communities. But I also know there's a pretty strong anti-political-correctness sentiment around here, and I'm not gonna go off in tears just because a few people think I take my problems with the genderification and the politicization of language that most people take for granted overly seriously.
Ibram, I really like you and think you're a lovely fella, but I reckon you need to get over yourself a bit. You're taking it too far, and you're going to make your road very difficult if you're going to take offence at harmlessly humourous comments like Sheldons. Honestly, there are a lot more battles worth fighting than the one you've created here.
Yes I understand you're on a journey and you're finding your way and it's hard but seriously, you have to still be able to make and take a joke, not just on your own terms, but on the terms of the people who mean you no harm at all.
Again, I honestly mean no offence to you. I don't really care what your sexuality is. I don't care what anyone's sexuality is. I really just want to be able to have a discourse without having to worry about who I called a he when I should have called him a she or whatever. if I'm talking to you, then 'you' are what you are, and what I address you as is of no consequence and has no bearing on what you see yourself as. The only person who really has to be happy about you is you. Everyone else can go get knotted.
Ibram, I really like you and think you're a lovely fella, but I reckon you need to get over yourself a bit. You're taking it too far, and you're going to make your road very difficult if you're going to take offence at harmlessly humourous comments like Sheldons. Honestly, there are a lot more battles worth fighting than the one you've created here.
Tilting at windmills, etc.
I agree in a general sense with Ali here. Both points... I like you , but c'mon... you're going out of your way looking for offense when clearly none was intended. Makes you sound bitchy.
Again, I honestly mean no offence to you. I don't really care what your sexuality is. I don't care what anyone's sexuality is. I really just want to be able to have a discourse without having to worry about who I called a he when I should have called him a she or whatever. if I'm talking to you, then 'you' are what you are, and what I address you as is of no consequence and has no bearing on what you see yourself as. The only person who really has to be happy about you is you. Everyone else can go get knotted.
This is my point - I find the notion that it's unreasonable to expect people to make an effort to properly gender me to be flat out nasty. I fundamentally disagree with your worldview on gender. And because I'm part of the trans* community, that disagreement takes on a little more weight, because when you treat gender that way, it fundamentally erases me and my identity, and leaves the door open for a lot of really bad things. I don't care if you think i'm bitchy or taking it too far - I'm going to make an effort to educate the cellar as to WHY the things we say can be taken as offensive, HOW our language makes it extremely easy to erase the trans* community, etc. It doesn't mean i'm personally bent out of shape about it. It means I think it's a fundamental human and civil rights issue to talk about these things, and to stand up against language I think is damaging.
Ibram, the difficulty is not in calling someone a she if they want to be called a she, it's with remembering the changes from year to year. I humbly suggest you make a new user name if you want people to think of you as someone different than you used to be. Heck, sometimes it's a good idea to do that just to separate yourself from your younger self.
So everyone should make an attempt to understand you and where you're coming from (I'm afraid to use the 'wrong' words) but you have no problem judging and chastising someone like JBK...why?
Trantrums!
Ibs, you know who doesn't give two shits about "educating" people about gender issues? Post-ops.
I've been close friends with one, friends with two others and acquaintances with two more. Once they're women, they're women and all the gender politics is no longer interesting. It's dropped, permanently.
Oh and. Please consider never again using the word "worldview". Just say "view", unless you want to be the most blowhardy blowhard ever.
Ib, don't take these responses personally, in fact, just say your piece and then leave their responses alone.
You do what you need to do.
So everyone should make an attempt to understand you and where you're coming from (I'm afraid to use the 'wrong' words) but you have no problem judging and chastising someone like JBK...why?
my "attacks" on JBK were all exhortations to make damn sense. I'm not telling him to leave or go home or shut up or anything else, and i'm not "judging" anything except for the incomprehensibility of his content. JBK makes no effort to and has no interest in helping anyone understand where he's "coming from" at any given point, except to say that he doesn't intend to make sense. That's a valid way to communicate, but it's equally valid to criticize it as opaque and nonsensical. Just like, you can use whatever damn pronouns you want, for me, but it's perfectly legitimate for me to correct you if I would prefer female ones, and its perfectly legitimate to point out when I feel like people are talking offensively. I don't care if you think it's overly sensitive of me.
Ibs, you know who doesn't give two shits about "educating" people about gender issues? Post-ops.
I've been close friends with one, friends with two others and acquaintances with two more. Once they're women, they're women and all the gender politics is no longer interesting. It's dropped, permanently.
That is sometimes the case, yes. So? Not all trans* people intend to have surgery, and not everyone in the trans* community is an activist. I
am. The same way I speak out on some gay issues, or some economic issues, or some international issues, that i consider it important for people to BE active about, I speak out on trans* issues, even if not every member of the community thinks it's an issue worth pursuing, or even agree that its an issue at all. I think its sad that NOT everyone in the community is an activist, but I'm going to continue to follow my own passion in the issue.
my "attacks" on JBK were all exhortations to make damn sense. I'm not telling him to leave or go home or shut up or anything else, and i'm not "judging" anything except for the incomprehensibility of his content. JBK makes no effort to and has no interest in helping anyone understand where he's "coming from" at any given point, except to say that he doesn't intend to make sense. That's a valid way to communicate, but it's equally valid to criticize it as opaque and nonsensical. Just like, you can use whatever damn pronouns you want, for me, but it's perfectly legitimate for me to correct you if I would prefer female ones, and its perfectly legitimate to point out when I feel like people are talking offensively. I don't care if you think it's overly sensitive of me.
Take the pill of chill dude...I barely said anything.
But I will now, and I don't care if you think it's overly meanie weanie of me: you get offended over shit even as people are trying to understand what you are saying. You'll be happy to know I read about every other word in this previous post, because WTF.
JBK has admitted to schizophrenia. You've admitted to being transgendered or whatever word I'm allowed to use. People bend over backwards to understand your position. But you got all pissy with JBK for no reason...why, because you don't 'get' schizophrenia? Well, I don't 'get' whatever it is you're hoping to accomplish, but I've kept my mouth shut. JBK isn't the issue. You are. You're on a fast track to crazy town, is what you are.
So put your big girl panties on, take a deeeeeep breath, and lay off the booze for a while.
kthx
So we have male, female, and transgendered? What about me???
You're on a fast track to crazy town, is what you are.
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:rolleyes:
concise enough for you?
What about me???
Pandabare?
I'm sorry Ibram. I meant no offense. I'll leave this thread alone now.
I'm sorry Ibram. I meant no offense. I'll leave this thread alone now.
No, don't Sheldon.
You have as much right to be in this thread as Ibram.
You make me laugh.
Sorry for starting this shitstorm, and I'm really sorry if it makes Ibram feel less at home here. I guess I just had a really crap day myself yesterday, and some comments made here just seemed so trivial in comparison to some other stuff going on in my own life.
Sheldon, I think you're a funny man and I'm sorry for making you feel less comfortable too.
Anyway, I'm not saying I don't believe what I posted, just that under normal circumstances, I wouldn't have bothered saying anything because there'd be no point and definitely no positive outcome, and clearly that's the case here.
Once again, sorry to the community.
Ali, you offered your opinion.
Ibs disagreed with it, but again you have every right to discussion.
This is a new area for me, and a tricky one.
But although Ibby is obviously unhappy with your posts, you do not owe the Cellar an apology as a whole. Ibrica has an agenda and yes she should feel free to pursue it. I think it shows her connection to the Cellar that she comes here and is vocal.
I don't get much of it myself, Ibs.
I don't understand, I am looking for logic and I am trying to follow your lead in what is acceptible for you. By sharing you are helping to educate and elucidate.
But the Cellar is the Cellar and people have a right to question and to joke.
Now someone turn this thread back into a picture thread or you'll get a photo of my new coldsores.
Yes, I have a crop this time, as I am in the throes of another cold.
One of the wonderful reasons to work with children...
I'm sorry Ibram. I meant no offense. I'll leave this thread alone now.
I tried really hard, though I guess not hard enough, to make the point that I'm not trying to attack you, just to say why comments like that can come across wrong.
I love you shel, please don't go!
Pandabare?
I like that!!! Or maybe I'm trans-pandaed.
*snickers*
On the way home I saw a semi...company named TransX. The tagline was "We take a load off your mind." ;)
Too soon?
well it made me LOL INFI! :lol:
I have no prejudice against anyone for anything, but I'll be dammed if I have to walk on eggshells because some people are not comfortable enough in their own skin to have a funny bone.
I have a RFN photo. I suck at taking my own photo and I just wanted to capture the fabulous color I got my hair today. :)
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Girl, that hair is the fab! So shiny. :)
Fabulous? Yes, that works quite well. ;)
lovely nirvana!!! btw, what category do you fall in?
Oh! Oh that is a gorgeous colour!
@ Ibs: I know you want to educate us and that's probably a good thing overall. Most of us are older than you and maybe a little stuck in our own ways. As a young person it's partly your job to re-educate us oldies. But...
Be aware there is a price sometimes. When you take offence, or pick up on a jest, it can rebound and end up hurting the person you're trying to educate. Instead of just raising awareness of a rather complex and new issue, you risk making yourself difficult to interact with. As Nirvana says, walking on eggshells.
Chin up chika. It ain't so bad. You can't change the world overnight. And people live in a world of binary definitions. Choose your battles. There will be plenty of them to come.
I have a couple of trans* friends in rl. One of whom I met through my work as a councillor, as they were campaigning for better treatment in the NHS.
I am aware of many of the issues. That said: different members of the trans* community have different opinions and attitudes to things like the use of the words 'he' and 'she' for instance. There are those who would not have found Shel's jest the least offensive and those that would.
Though I have some experience of engaging with trans* issues, I am not well up on them. I forget about little things that a trans* person will pick up on and I won't notice. There are also members of the trans* community who bring an older set of cultural references and would probably wind Ibs up no end by not getting half of what she says, despite them living it themselves.
Sorry, I deleted my post. Didn't mean to make it look dopey. lol I knew I should have been quicker.
Anyway, I just feel that there are a lot more things I want to say, but sometimes there's not much point because sometimes what you're saying falls on deaf ears simply because the person you're talking to doesn't have enough life experience to put what you're saying into a similar framework of understanding. That's what I feel the difference is between Ibram's thoughts and mine. I think sometimes youth forgets that age understands a lot more than youth thinks and isn't as old and thoughtless as perhaps youth would like to believe.
eta: Let me put it this way. You (Dana) suggested ibram should choose his battles. I believe the same. I think he has a choice about being offended by what people say. He can choose to get huffy about things, or he can simply recognise that his understanding is not the same as the other persons understanding and leave it at that.
I'd understand if someone said something horrible to him and he felt the need to arc up, but I don't see the benefit of doing it every time, especially considering the fact that it's fairly clear that Ibram has a long way to go on this path of discovery and I doubt that even he is sure where he fits, so why should he have the right to get cranky or offended if someone else doesn't either.
Anyway, I'm probably just hormonal. I'm going to just leave this thread now.
BTW, I like the hair colour Nirvana!
I edited my post a bit :p
Yeah. I agree with what you say really.
I seem to recall having a similar view about older people :p
I'll be dammed if I have to walk on eggshells because some people are not comfortable enough in their own skin to have a funny bone.
Yes -- there it is, bottom line, well stated.
It has been a good reminder about how prickly politicized college kids get once they know everyone elses mind. We all wish Ibram well but we can't change her beliefs about us.
I would rather laugh with Sheldon than argue with Ibs.
Now more photos please :)
@ibs
My understanding is that you're a middle of the road kind of guy. Which, in my limited experience, doesn't call for a shift in pronouns.
So, if you're going to object to Sheldon as binarist, why did you also object to Lola's use of the 'he' pronoun? Isn't that binarist too?
Your life and lifestyle are plenty complicated. There's no need to get snippy if we don't have it all down yet.
And the classy response to an unwanted advance is to either ignore it or to say "thanks, but no thanks." This is true no matter where you fit on the gender bar.
And the classy response to an unwanted advance is to either ignore it or to say "thanks, but no thanks." This is true no matter where you fit on the gender bar.
My response of "Buy me a drink and I'll think about it" puts me definitely outside the boundaries of classy.
That's how you pulled me :)
And I think that defining things that way, especially to my face, would, coming from a stranger, strike me as offensive. Because it's Shel, and I like Shel and fundamentally believe the best about him, I know that's not what he's trying to say. I'm just trying to point out how comments like that can be hurtful, regardless of intent. I'm not sore or trying to be contrarian, I'm just saying that even if Shel is only interested in people with dicks, using that sort of language and talking about identity, gender, sex, and sexuality in those terms is fraught with peril and it is quite easy to be accidentally hurtful or to, without any malice, without even being aware of it, say things that can feel exclusionary, binarist, and sex-essentialist to those on the non-cisgendered side of things.
Not so very long ago, "i don't mind gay people, I just don't want them rubbing it in my face", or any other variant of the "as long as they don't do it around me" argument, would have been a fairly progressive point of view. But now, to most people, it sounds dated and prejudicial - like it assumes that, while straight people keep sex private, gay people are likely to take it too far, or do it in public, or try to coerce uninterested parties into participation. I really hope that one of these days, comparing a sensitivity to gender issues to being high will sound equally dated. And even if you think I'm being ridiculous by standing up for them, I'm going to KEEP being vocal about defending my identity and on trans* issues that I think aren't being adequately represented here. You can put me on the loony fringe if you like, but I at least want to make the "fringe", progressive, queer, activist trans* point of view heard. The same way one oversensitive nigger ain't gonna keep everyone from saying "black", I don't expect one oversensitive tranny to keep you guys from straying into what i consider vaguely offensive, trans*-erasive, sexist commentary. I know the Cellar is going to be a lot more accepting and positive than most communities. But I also know there's a pretty strong anti-political-correctness sentiment around here, and[SIZE="5"] I'm not gonna go off in tears just because a few people think[/SIZE] I take my problems with the genderification and the politicization of language that most people take for granted overly seriously.
Lots of "I" language here. Completely legitimate, and wonderful to hear. The last one, made a little bigger, is a bigger, stronger statement. Huzzah!
This is my point - I find the notion that it's unreasonable to expect people to make an effort to properly gender me to be flat out nasty. I fundamentally disagree with your worldview on gender. And because I'm part of the trans* community, that disagreement takes on a little more weight, because [COLOR="Red"]when you treat gender that way, it fundamentally erases me and my identity[/COLOR], and leaves the door open for a lot of really bad things. I don't care if you think i'm bitchy or taking it too far - I'm going to make an effort to educate the cellar as to WHY the things we say can be taken as offensive, HOW our language makes it extremely easy to erase the trans* community, etc. It doesn't mean i'm personally bent out of shape about it. It means I think it's a fundamental human and civil rights issue to talk about these things, and to stand up against language I think is damaging.
More "I" language here, until you make what is in my opinion, a serious mistake, flagged in red.
Ibram/Erica, I hope you do not seriously mean what you wrote there. If so, even if you feel that way sometimes, I sincerely hope you don't waste one more breath on such a notion. It is obvious that Sheldon's language, or any other person's language does not erase your identity. I pray that you merely misspoke. Such a situation as you describe, when it occurs in earnest, truly only reveals the speaker's ignorance and blindness, knowing or otherwise.
Please do continue to fight the good fight as you see it. Live right, speak out, and loudly. Persist and persuade. But don't let something like another person's words or attitudes or actions have much room in your consciousness, much less in your reality. A remark like this may make you *feel* as though you may be erased **TO THEM**, but that is not your problem, it is their problem.
I personally don't give a fuck if you are a male, female, or whatever. I care more about what type of person you are.
Me this afternoon, having lunch with the mater.
With evidence of the Colsore Apolcalypse I went through last week.
Walked over to the old Pension Building at lunch. Some of the corners of the place were completely deserted. Maybe I should move in.
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omg...what IS that building? I love the doors, and the big mirror reminds me of the one in the old hotel here.
I wanted to move into the old hotel, too. Even when the walls were crumbling and dead pigeons were everywhere. I wanted the corner room with the high ceiling and the rounded corner windows. :)
It's a building the government didn't have any use for, so they let the National Building Museum use it to house (boring and expensive) exhibits. It's also used for events all the time. They were setting up for one today. You can just wander around the parts that don't have exhibits in them. You have to pay for those. And there's a really cool museum store there.
It's popular with parents of little kids. See the girls doing cartwheels here? It's a heated space where the kids can go to get out of the house.
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Love that building! I remember having a great time sketching there with my studio class, back in college.
Oh! I've been there! We were visiting a friend in DC, and we went there to see an exhibit on building materials. They had a sample of that concrete that lets light through, it was featured in an IoTD once. But overall the exhibit seemed kind of low-quality--there was one writeup that referred to Thomas Jefferson as being like one of today's "early adapters" of technology, and we told some woman working there that they meant "early adopter," but she just nodded and looked like she couldn't care less. We were kind of confused why such a small and awkward exhibit would be in that giant, nice building. But we did enjoy our lunch in the little cafe.
I saw that exhibit with the translucent concrete. I think it's probably the coolest thing they have ever had in that museum. It was free then, but now you would have to pay $8 to see that exhibit. You can wander around the building for free though.
Translucent concrete? What will they think of next, opaque glass, malleable iron, hard rubber?
It's a slippery slope, people!
Translucent concrete? What will they think of next, opaque glass, malleable iron, hard rubber?
It's a slippery slope, people!
sticky slopes
Translucent concrete?
Looks like it was
8 years ago and hasn't taken off yet.
I remember at the time thinking that it wasn't remotely practical.
Looks like it was 8 years ago and hasn't taken off yet.
I remember at the time thinking that it wasn't remotely practical.
Introducing... the earth-scraper:
Architects design 65-storey building which plunges 300 metres below ground
A glass floor covers the massive 240m x 240m hole in the city's main square
to filter in natural light from the world above.
Here's a pic of me getting an award from the mayor tonight at the Board meeting.
Looking good Sarge. Did you lose weight?
Congrats, sarge! What was it for?
My weight changes so much based upon fluid retention. I guess I had just pee'd alot today. The award was a National Guard Bureau support recognition. No biggie, but I don't think ya'll have ever seeen me in my real cop uniform since I mainly wear polos & khakis (class B uniform).
I hope it doesn't make too many of the women on here swoon. I'm especially worried about IM
You should be more worried about ducksnuts if she happens to pop in. :D
Very smart Sarge, looking good there.
Very nice Sarge!!
Good for you!
Gawd, even the men are swooning... and not without good reason!
Yes, superglue in the ear can mess with one's equilibrium.
So wait, you're ALL putting super glue in your ears now? Fellas, this isn't the new cellar meme.
Great pic, Sarge.
Fellas, this isn't the new cellar meme.
Great,
now you tell us...
You *are* looking good Sarge, but wow, all this time I thought you were a man. :blush:
RF last week sometime. Dont laugh... :redface:
ugh. it displayed upright until it posted. wtf. sorry.
Let me set you straight.
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There! I've made a f-i-n-e upright citizen of you.
Thanks V.
E you look lovely as always.
Too late to make the "straight" joke ... can I still call you a cross-dresser?
I looked at your pic, Ibram, and I thought you were standing next to a counter. I wondered what all those tiny bottles were. Then I realized that was the floor and they're beer bottles or something. :lol:
That haircut is cute on you, Ibs.
Ok this is going to sound very creepy. Ibs, I find you "attractive" and that isn't an easy thing to admit
Ibs looks a lot like an old girlfriend of mine.
Thanks clod and sarge and sundae! and i guess I'll take that as a compliment too, foot! It's still a work in progress, and the lack of clarity in the photo helps soften my features a little more than in real life, but I've found an informed-consent clinic here in town, and I'm going to work on getting hormone replacement therapy asap, which'll soften my features more, and slowly redistribute my fat into a more feminine shape. not to mention make my tits grow.
Small unsolicited tip: you can get your eyebrows waxed even before you get hormones. It'll change your facial appearance more than you realize.
Or go the whole hog and have 'eyebrow sculpting' done. Same thing with a few extras like trimming and plucking. Might help to get a really nice shape happening.
Thanks clod and sarge and sundae! and i guess I'll take that as a compliment too, foot! It's still a work in progress, and the lack of clarity in the photo helps soften my features a little more than in real life, but I've found an informed-consent clinic here in town, and I'm going to work on getting hormone replacement therapy asap, which'll soften my features more, and slowly redistribute my fat into a more feminine shape. not to mention make my tits grow.
What's the reception at Greenbergs been? I sorta can't really wrap my head around most of the folks there having any idea what you are all about. (I know that's shooting fish in a barrel, but still.)
Small unsolicited tip: you can get your eyebrows waxed even before you get hormones. It'll change your facial appearance more than you realize.
Or go the whole hog and have 'eyebrow sculpting' done. Same thing with a few extras like trimming and plucking. Might help to get a really nice shape happening.
I haven't worked up the nerve to even get a more feminine haircut yet, let alone get my eyebrows done. I know I need it. It's just a matter of working myself up to it.
What's the reception at Greenbergs been? I sorta can't really wrap my head around most of the folks there having any idea what you are all about. (I know that's shooting fish in a barrel, but still.)
I moved to Burlington in January. I was never out at Greenberg's. I didn't - can't - really hide my flamboyance or, well, fagginess, but it went mostly un-acknowledged, if it was noticed much at all. But I definitely gave nothing by way of alternate gender presentation at work. Until I came up here - where I'm passing (attempting to pass) full time - it was strictly an after-hours, closeted matter.
edit: that's not quite true. I wore bras and padded my chest a few days at work... but under all the layers and my baggy uniform sweatshirt, nobody could tell, and I certainly didn't volunteer it. I absolutely trust that all my coworkers would have been at the very least grudgingly tolerant, because personal respect, i think, would have trumped misunderstanding or bigotry... but some of the clientele, well, I suspect there would've been complaints. I had to settle for secretly enjoying every "ma'am-sir-ma'am".
I feel like I've been, at risk of sounding hubristic, pretty brave about being out, here in burlington. I've only introduced myself to my roommates as Erika, and I've corrected pronoun issues where they've come up (but not as often as a couple of my roommates have corrected pronoun issues on my behalf to the landlord who doesnt quite get it), and i'm even out in classes, even though of course I had to correct the teachers the first time they took roll. But on the other hand, I'm not brave enough yet to correct cashiers or waiters or, y'know, strangers. On one hand it's not a big deal, why should I care if they think I'm a guy, it doesn't affect how they do their jobs... but on the other, it's important to ME. One of these days I hope my pride and my strength of identity will be enough that I'll stand up for myself better... but in the meantime, the fact that I'm sure the eyebrow-groomers or hair-cutters or whatever would read me as male irrationally scares me enough to make me keep putting it off.
No way Ib. It's totally acceptable for blokey blokes to wax bits of their eyebrows. I do my boys between the brows even, and you couldn't get less gay than them (well you probably could, but you know what I mean). Any salon you go into will be happy to do it for you. Just pick one with lots of funky looking chicks who're probably more used to alternative lifestyle choices.
On the other note, I think lots of things will get a lot easier for you as people get used to seeing the new you. It'll just take a bit of time, but it sounds like it's going pretty well for you so far. :)
On one hand it's not a big deal, why should I care if they think I'm a guy,
it doesn't affect how they do their jobs... but on the other, it's important to ME.
One of these days I hope my pride and my strength of identity will be enough that I'll stand up for myself better...
Ib, your post shows you are doing just fine. It gives me full confidence in you.
No way Ib. It's totally acceptable for blokey blokes to wax bits of their eyebrows. I do my boys between the brows even, and you couldn't get less gay than them (well you probably could, but you know what I mean). Any salon you go into will be happy to do it for you. Just pick one with lots of funky looking chicks who're probably more used to alternative lifestyle choices.
See that's the thing - I know it's completely irrational. It would've been
easier for me to get them done
before i came out. There's no good
reason for it, I'm just... for want of a better word, shy, about actually going.
Ibs ... as an Italian who sported a unibrow for many years.
I've been agreeing! I know I need to just do it. But that's like telling a reluctant bungee jumper "just do it!" - yes, that's HOW you get it done, but first you have to work up the courage to do it, or turn that part of your brain off. I so far have managed neither.
Can you camp it up (still further, if you see what I mean) and simply pretend you are someone else? this looks like a really naff suggestion out there on the screen, given that you are changing your identity and other people's perceptions of you permanently over time, but can you push it right over into full-on acting to just get the waxing done?
Or am I bonkers. Does that simply look like drivel as an idea?
@Ibs - I hear ya.
Didn't mean to offend, just thought a cool T-Shirt might help.
Can you camp it up (still further, if you see what I mean) and simply pretend you are someone else? this looks like a really naff suggestion out there on the screen, given that you are changing your identity and other people's perceptions of you permanently over time, but can you push it right over into full-on acting to just get the waxing done?
Or am I bonkers. Does that simply look like drivel as an idea?
If my reluctance came out of being worried about how they perceive me as a person, that might work... I dunno if that sounds like it would work for me, though. Maybe for other people in the same situation.
I do wonder if part of it comes from the fact that acknowledging or "showing" how much work us trans* ladies have to put into feminizing is inherently un-passing and embarrassing. The idea of admitting that my eyebrows aren't naturally femme enough - even though SO MANY other women's aren't either! - is too defeminizing, not in how i'm perceived but in how I
feel.
@Ibs - I hear ya.
Didn't mean to offend, just thought a cool T-Shirt might help.
Not offended, mate. I know you're trying to help ;)
Listen sister, if you think all this beauty the rest of us chicks display comes easily, you've got another think coming. lol
That's kinda what I'm saying, though. It doesn't make sense to hold myself to a higher standard of what i'm allowed to do to look how I want to look, but somehow I feel like I have to.
@ Ali - Bwahahahahaaaaaaaa
That's kinda what I'm saying, though. It doesn't make sense to hold myself to a higher standard of what i'm allowed to do to look how I want to look, but somehow I feel like I have to.
You're in another world now Ibs. Trust me, most women hold themselves to a higher standard than other women do. Of course, we're all full of shit, but that's how a woman works. Just go with it. ;)
eta: we're just talking about a little wax here anyway. Have you ever noticed how much hair some european women have that needs removing? Trust me, you're nowhere near as hairy as lots of women.
Incidentally, I felt like a dick the first time I decided to get my brows waxed. I thought they'd all be laughing at me because i had no idea how to ask for what I wanted.
Turns out they weren't, but our minds are not very kind to us at times. give it a good slap and get on with it. ;)
eta: if that's part of your problem, I suggest finding a picture of how you want your brows to look and then just give it to the girl and tell her that's what you want. :)
oh jeez. I have NO idea how they should look, either. I was just gonna go in and say make my eyebrows pretty and as feminizing as possible. I dont even know how I'm gonna get my hair cut - im going to go in and ask what they think they can do with it that'll feminize me.
Maybe you could employ a little humour and just walk in and say, "here's my head. Make it look like it belongs to a girl!" :D
I know this isn't exactly a rfn pic, but it is on topic.
What do you think, Ibram? I saw this recently and I thought of you. I found it helpful.
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Yup. Pretty basic and incomplete but thats the gist of it.
I liked the lines indicating the "location" of each term.
just pluck them Ib. After you shower. take out a few each time until you get the look you want. Never pluck above the brow. Well maybe. but only once you're a pro at the rest of it
Here's a guide
http://www.howtoshapeeyebrows.net/
As for the hair, decide if there are any bits you care about (bangs/no bangs, behind the ear or no, feminine/masculine.......) then tell them "I need something new. this is what I care about, beyond that you're the professional and I trust you". It's worked fine for me and my daughter many times. Mine is usually "I need it shorter, a few bangs, shaped round the ears, no shaving the neckline, no wedges and beyond that be as feminine as you can -maybe textured on top -you make the call on that". I'm so easy ;). And for my (swimmer) daughter it's "make it look as thick and long as you can while still having a "style" -you're the professional, we trust you" It's OK to say these sort of things.
I loved Burlington. I lived there in the early 80s. wow.
Have fun, ibs.
That's kinda what I'm saying, though. It doesn't make sense to hold myself to a higher standard of what i'm allowed to do to look how I want to look, but somehow I feel like I have to.
This is how it is in many fields of employment (especially male-dominated ones) for women even now. We have to work harder and be better in order to think we are being seen as "as good as" the guys. Mind you quite often we are held to that standard by our colleagues - and it sucks.
I saw a great 70s US made-for-tv movie about a woman who wanted to be a sports writer but kept getting turned down at interview until she cross-dressed as a man (beard and all): then she got the job of her dreams but had to keep up the pretence. What was very revealing was how being a man made so many more things easier for her - getting attention in any service-giving establishment, walking home late at night etc. You're going to have to give a lot of that up in becoming a woman.
ETA: it looks like Jim's done your right eyebrow for you!
Ibby, I was nervous too, my first time. I recommend you find a gg to go with you the first time. After that, it isn't nearly so scary. I know exactly how you feel, entering genuine female territory for the first time.
I find that it is best to go to a salon that offers a package deal. Start with a massage to loosen tension, then a mani/pedi for the pampering. By the time they go to shape and wax your brows (which look fine by the way) you'll be totally relaxed and comfortable.
call me if you need moral support.
Any salon you go into will be happy to do it for you. Just pick one with lots of funky looking chicks who're probably more used to alternative lifestyle choices.
This tickled me because around here
all the waxing places are staffed by Asian women who don't even speak English and could not care less who you are. They are done in 3 minutes and get the shape perfect every time.
Hi Spexx! I see you're open? We can just come on in? :)
You look to be a gentle soul.
Infinite Monkey, come on dooooowwwwwn!
Hey Spex. I think this is the first time I've seen you.
This tickled me because around here all the waxing places are staffed by Asian women who don't even speak English and could not care less who you are. They are done in 3 minutes and get the shape perfect every time.
Really? We don't have that here yet. Only with the nail and pedicure places. They're mostly owned and run by Vietnamese people. I don't mind too much that they don't speak much English in general because usually I just want to sit there and relax anyway. When I'm sitting in that vibrating chair with my feet in warm bubbling water, the last thing I want to do is remember what sort of day it was that led me there. lol
Here, the nail and pedicure places are the waxing places too. Regular salons only do hair cutting (top-of-the-head hair, that is.) A full spa will do waxing, facials, nails, hair, the whole deal, but those are all-day experiences and priced accordingly.
You look to be a gentle soul.
Thank you, Infi.
Hey Spex. Lookin good.
Thanks big boy. Buy me a drink?
Hey Spex. I think this is the first time I've seen you.
I posted my mug not too long ago. Oh well.
Here, the nail and pedicure places are the waxing places too. Regular salons only do hair cutting (top-of-the-head hair, that is.) A full spa will do waxing, facials, nails, hair, the whole deal, but those are all-day experiences and priced accordingly.
Hmmm...interesting. Over here, most hair salons will do at least facial waxing and sometimes legs and pits - although not as many as there used to be.
Mostly if you want bikini line and more you need to go to a beautician, although I did see my very first salon dedicated only to waxing a week or so ago. I went in to have my legs done. In the end I wasn't overly impressed. For one thing I ended up with a blood blister on my shin, and there are quite a few stray hairs left. Admittedly, the blood blister may have been caused because I'm pregnant. Higher blood flow and all that, but still, the chick was really talking herself up, so I expected better.
Spexx, I do love those glasses, btw.
I guess you have 'connections' eh? ;)
They look a little like Ronsirs
Spexx, I do love those glasses, btw.
I guess you have 'connections' eh? ;)
Yup. They're my everyday glasses, but I'm Jonesing for a new look, so I have 2 more in the pipeline.
They look a little like Ronsirs
A Modern look alike. It's a classic look.
Hiya Spexxvet!
So nice to see you!
Be glad to buy you a beer as soon as I get a job.
You look great, monster and Hebe! I don't know the other two but I'm sure they look great too. Hotter Otters! :)
Monster, you post so much taller than that.
Where can the rest of us get Hotter Otter T shirts?
Monster, you is slim!
Lookit them legs.
Monster, you is slim!
Lookit them legs.
One knee seems to be higher than the other ... :eyebrow:
Who do you think glatt's card is for? :mad:
;)
One knee seems to be higher than the other ... :eyebrow:
She lives on the side of a hill.
:p:
She lives on the side of a hill.
:p:
in Tennessee, where they breed mules with 2 shorter legs on one side
Monster, you is slim!
Lookit them legs.
Legs and arms have no fat. all on the bellaih
One knee seems to be higher than the other ... :eyebrow:
the hobo wasn't quite dead, had to hold him with the foot.....
Not RFN, but 19 years ago when I was working undercover
LOL!! I hope you got paid. Well. :lol2:
Hey! I remember you! That baggie you sold me was PRIMO! Got any more?
DUDE! you look like my boss now! (only without the rug thingy)
OMG no fucking way.
That hairstyle is awesome. You should totally grow another one of those.
Why does nobody ever put the pony tail in front?
Dude, you still look like a cop.
I don't have enough hair left to grow it out again. LOL. I'm digging around trying to find a pic of me when I was 19 & had a mohawk.
Why does nobody ever put the pony tail in front?
'Cuz 'ponytail' is easier to say than 'forelock'.
cause putting it in front makes you look like a horse's ass.
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aw yeh
That doesn't look like a dwellar
wth? it's cloudy at that....
looks like my kinda recycling to me
thats a vodka bottle bong? kinda blurry...... looks like the bowl is below the vodka line. can you post a clearer pic, Jee?
Oh yes, I see it now.
I don't travel in that scene these days.
That's my excuse.
Sheldon, if you lose about 50 pounds (and I'm not saying for a moment that you should) you could be all like "accept the dark side, young Skywalker, your hate will make you strong!"
ETA, whoever posted the bong ... FINISH IT, YA PUSSY!
Sheldon, if you lose about 50 pounds (and I'm not saying for a moment that you should) you could be all like "accept the dark side, young Skywalker, your hate will make you strong!"
ETA, whoever posted the bong ... FINISH IT, YA PUSSY!
I usually get told I look like a Monk with my hood up. I guess Frier Tuck works too. :-)
I guess Frier Tuck works too. :-)
Anagram time!
Nup, I got nuttin. ;)
Sheldon looks like foot
I guess that's better than a dick. :-)
Speaking of which, I heard that Heart Cheney had a dick transplant. Can anyone confirm?
not 'zactly rfn, but recent. Who says coffee doesn't make your teeth look white?
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Sheldon, if you lose about 50 pounds (and I'm not saying for a moment that you should) you could be all like "accept the dark side, young Skywalker, your hate will make you strong!"
ETA, whoever posted the bong ... FINISH IT, YA PUSSY!
Ohmigod you're right.
I suspect he'd be referring to a slightly different darkside experience though...
not 'zactly rfn, but recent. Who says coffee doesn't make your teeth look white?
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BigV in his kitchen attempts to make chocolate brownies.
V - Looks like you have a cat hair on yer nose and its makin me itchy just lookin at it.
Just posted this on FB.
Re: Hoodie
Stay outta Florida, you'll get shot.
...you could be all like "accept the dark side, young Skywalker, your hate will make you strong!"...
He already came to the dark side, well, he comes in the dark end, anyway...
:D
Sheldon - I love the hoodie.
Big V - I swear you look just like some of the girls at the mud wrestling. They scare me too!
Not to be out done, here are a few pics made with a cheap (less than $50) GE camera. Hey at least it is a step up from the cellphone. Please note that all of the ducks survived Addie. She caught them and we are relocating them to my place where they will be put to good use.
awwww sarge, you say the sweetest things!
Those do not look like happy ducks, especially the one on the right. Glad it all went well, you and your girls looks so happy, great pictures, thanks!!
Sheldon - I love the woodie.
....
Why Thank you, BS! ;-)
Please note that all of the ducks survived Addie. She caught them and we are relocating them to my place where they will be put to good use.
I'm thinking hoi sin sauce and pancakes?
People buy chicks & ducklings and when they find out how much trouble they are, they dump them in the park. We've started trying to rescue them and relocate out to my place. I'm going to try to add a little side line of free range eggs. We'll really rack up right after Easter.
I swear to you they are alive & doing well despite the photo of her holding both.
Sarge, beautiful family photos. And so nice to have them so clear :)
We have chicks in school this week. Two yellow, two brown and one speckled.
Tiger is obsessed with them. He just loves the feel of them (I let him hold one, supervised).
I mean all the children love them, but it's like they are a magnet to Tiger, his body moves towards the enclosure at the back of the classroom even when his head is facing the other way and practising pirate songs!
Is that Bryanna holding Addie?
Thank you Sundae. That's Bryanna with Addie. Bryanna will be 16 in 2 weeks
She caught them and we are relocating them to my place where they will be put to good use.
Are recipes in order?
I'm thinking hoi sin sauce and pancakes?
Are recipes in order?
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Sarge, is Addie getting advertising revenue from her dentist?
She should the way she smiles. We can't get her to use a natural smile when she poses. LOL
...ducks...where they will be put to good use.
With a ginger glaze?:yum:
RF last weekend. With my 23yr old son. Separately, a photo of my girls. Notice the big grin, like Addie's :D
Three beautiful children, such different colouring.
Hope that's not rude - I'm always fascinated by what other people's children look like, the blending of the genes.
And you look hot, Mum.
Stormie great looking kids. You don't look old enough to have a 23 yoa son & that's being serious. I guess I'll have to add you to my "Beautiful Women of the Cellar" list.
Hi Stormie. Your family is lookin very happy.
Stormie, I don't know what that is around your neck...but, it's working.
:love:
I'm not in it, but it's the view from where I'm sitting.
Finally got my stereo and turntable set up. The record visible in the photo is Emerson, Lake, and Palmer's Brain Salad Surgery, but right now I'm listening to Axis: Bold as Love.
One of my favorite facts about this album is that Hendrix, very proud of his native american ancestry, told the designer of the cover to do something indian.
The British label's designer took rather the wrong idea from that.
Okay, not RFN, but yesterday evening, when it was too late for me to post.
Me being an Easter Bunny.
What about a pic of that cute bunny tail???
Referring you to previous photos; I don't have a cute bunny tail.
What about a pic of that cute bunny tail???
Referring you to previous photos; I don't have a cute bunny tail.
How 'bout lettin' us see the rest of the costume, then?
Okay, not completely RFN.
But you can appreciate that there was no prep or primping involved.
This is me stripped bare.
Youtube clip for Tiger.
I've been off a full week now and I hate it, even though it's Doctor's orders.
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You are such a good aide, Sundae. I would kill for aides like you in our school.
Seconding Clod, and also... christ I am in love with your accent. Well, with you, but also with your accent. You have such a beautifully soft voice, that goes so well with your accent to a foreigner like me.
How would you describe your accent in a more local context? Like, even to an anglophile like me, it's hard to know the sort of local context of accents (except really obvious ones like, I can tell a chavvy accent from a posh one).
Thank you, that's very kind.
My voice in that clip is a little softer and huskier than usual because I'm still fighting this infection. Better than this time last week when I could barely speak and certainly coudn't have said all that without coughing :yeldead:
My accent is pretty typical Southern/ London accent.
My London family transplanted to Bucks in the 60s, so I had no chance of a Bucks accent despite being born and bred here. I'm not well spoken because I flatten my vowels and swallow my consonants, but people do comment that I have a good speaking/ telephone voice, because I do at least make some effort at "correct" pronunciation.
I've noticed my speech changing since moving back home. For a long while I lived in places where I had a noticeable accent, so I was free to speak in any way I wanted. Now I'm back home I fall into my parents' patterns of speech. I heard myself say, "yerr-ight?" the other day (are you alright?) and cringed.
Sundae speaks beautifully, even in a local context. A southern/London accent, but not a strong eastend/cockney accent.
It's the accent we (the rest f the country :P) generally associate with the well-to-do, regardless of actual income, because the south is where the money tends to be. There's a harsher version of Sundae's accent, that sounds less monied, and sits alongside the northern accents as typically workingclass, but i hear none of that when I listen to her.
Sundae that is lovely. I can see your sweet demeanor being a really positive thing for the kids. I also love your voice. And I like the hair!
Biscuit coloured hair.
Styling & make-up for Dad's birthday lunch.
Trouble is, the roots are bright blonde, so I either have to go full on blonde again or darken it all to red. Haven't yet decided.
Ohhhh I love that colour!!
Y'know, much as I liked the dark hair, I think you suit brighter shades more.
I like it too and i love the curls!
Best one yet! It really complements your natural beauty.
Because you lost your glasses?
BTW, they are on top of your head!
Glasses warp your face, thats why I'm not wearing them.
Me and Max. RFN
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:thumb2: It's nice to start seeing ppl's faces again.
He's grown up so much, Ali!
Awww. Ali and Max you guys look adorable.
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Took this to illustrate how small a patch of beard was generating the snowdrifts on my black shirt, but you can't see it in the pic.... oh well.. it's me RFN.
He's grown up so much, Ali!
He's 97 cm tall now. That's 3 feet for you lot of imperialists. :)
Awww. Ali and Max you guys look adorable.
Thanks Dana. We try. ;)
Jim...you always look so stern in your pictures. Where's one with a smile??? :)
He's 97 cm tall now. That's 3 feet for you lot of imperialists. :)
Thanks Dana. We try. ;)
:eyebrow:
MTP - gorgeous-er and gorgeous-er as you grow up.
Don't ever leave us.
Oh Ali - I know it's been a tough time for you, but it doesn't show on your face. I suggested Max to Abs as a name. As in The night Max wore his wolf-suit... didn't fly. But your Max is such a cutie. There's another Max in Peerless Flats by Esther Freud. I adore her writing - this was the first I read. If you ever have time...
Ah LJ. I don't let myself lust after you any more. Since you were single and you didn't immediately hop on a flight to Blighty. And now you have a cat-wrangling GF. But if I could, I would. Hit that I mean. You Viking throwback, you.
he does look like a viking!
Sundae, you'll notice that pic was taken from dead in front and hardly a bit of neck fat to be seen. ;)
I guess there's a silver lining to ever dark cloud. :)
We all have to take pictures from our best side(s). :D
I love viking looking guy!
First time in 15 yrs.
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Hi Ali, lookin good.
I recently changed my hairstyle too, but I doubt it's permanent.
hm
looking for befores and afters now
Purple Mow hawk there V ??
I'm gonna guess he shaved a giant balding pattern over the top so he can cosplay as Jet in Cowboy Bebop. Certainly it's for cosplay of some kind, on that I am sure.
I've started tonging mine when I go out.
Which means about three times a year.
I'd love to have a perm but my hair is pretty much straw at the ends.
Nasty hairdresser (as in she works in a nasty cheap place) rattled on about me having to put product on my hair three times a week. For five minutes a time. I could easily fit it into my "beauty routine" she sez.
Beauty routine? I pretended to have Asbergers. Said nuffink. I've learned polite anti-social.
My first thought was to tell her I only washed my hair once a week anyway, so she lucked out. I'm not fussed about the condition of my hair - it's a renewable resource. I'd have had it cut much shorter if that chain wouldn't have called it a restyle and charged more for it.
She also suggested I had my eyebrows tinted to go with my hi-fashion cut. I think that was just her revenge because I wanted a short fringe (bangs). And I only get that so I don't have to go back too soon.
TBF she gave me the best cut I've had from there.
BigV: Waiting to see your hair...:D
Ali: Why did you decide to perm your hair?
Jim: He probably usually keep a stern face pose because he knows that he looks so damn sexy like that. :p:
Sundae: Your hair salon charges more for a shorter hairstyle? Geez....
You go to a cheapo hairdresser you get sliced.
Last time I went there they refused to give me the rate shown on the window (£13.50) because I had "product" in my hair. Hairspray. So I had to pay for a wash and cut. A single brush would have sorted it - I didn't have a bloody beehive!
This time they refused to cut my hair dry [for £13.50] because... actually I don't remember the stupid excuse this time. I went in at approx 10.00 after washing and drying my hair sans products at 09.00.
So I had a shampoo and cut which came out at £22.50.
£3.50 of that was "protein treatment" apparently. Not discussed.
I need to learn to plan ahead better.
I only go to that dreadful place when I want my hair cut right here right now.
My Mum's bad hairdresser only charges me £15. And she's really not all that bad. At least she doesn't try to scam me.
This is the only time London is cheaper.
Ridiculous. There's none of this lying about the price either.
This was Saturday. Before and after for glatt. Bedhead and long hair, then post shower and cut hair.
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You even LOOK like a nice fella, glatt.
The one sock in your garage is cracking me up.
The shower curtain, on the other hand... I'm sorry, but... I'm just sorry. ;)
Ali: Why did you decide to perm your hair?
Mainly because it's been straight for 15 years and I'm getting bored. There isn't really any other reason. :)
The one sock in your garage is cracking me up.
Yeah. Me too. But it serves a function.
It's a sock that one of the kids outgrew and it's the perfect size to cover the base of one of the wooden posts in the roof top rack I built for our car. Keeps the oak post from scratching the paint on the roof. The foam I used to have on there fell off and got lost.
The rack is pretty ugly, so having a random sock flapping around underneath it as I drive around town is really just the perfect touch.
My wife doesn't like to be seen in the car while the rack is on the roof, so the rack (and the sock) spend virtually all their time in my shop.
That's a more interesting story than I was envisioning. I thought you were just going to say you use old socks as cleanup rags. Of course, the counterpoint to that is you need to have power tools hanging off your unused treadmill inside the house. (I'm embarrassed to say we do own a treadmill, and of course it never gets used. But there are never clothes hanging off it!)
Glatt has republican hair.
Yeah. Me too. But it serves a function.
It's a sock that one of the kids outgrew and it's the perfect size to cover the base of one of the wooden posts in the roof top rack I built for our car. Keeps the oak post from scratching the paint on the roof. The foam I used to have on there fell off and got lost.
The rack is pretty ugly, so having a random sock flapping around underneath it as I drive around town is really just the perfect touch.
My wife doesn't like to be seen in the car while the rack is on the roof, so the rack (and the sock) spend virtually all their time in my shop.
reminds me of the story about a guy that pulled into the gas station in this awesome tricked out jeep. monster tires, lift kit, winch, P-51 shark mouth paint job, a kabillion candlepower mounted on the roof (including pointing backwards for the highbeam tailgater), shovel/hi-lift jack, brush bar, roll cage, custom exhaust, custom everything. The license plate read FAT PAT. The station attendant was admiring his rig and noticed the license plate. He said, "Hey, you must be Pat." The guy responded, "Nope, Pat's my wife. The plate just makes sharing my jeep easier... for me."
Someone asked anonymously on Tumblr for me to post a pic, so I'm crossposting here.
I love the top ibz, looking really cute.
Wish you'd do somethin different with your hair tho, it looks a tad stringy.
<3
I would make out with those lips though.
I need a trim, big-time, but i'm putting it off til i have more length to work with. I dont have a clue what to do with it. I think i'm going to find a good salon and just walk in and say "surprise me, just do something feminizing with it"
I need a trim, big-time, but i'm putting it off til i have more length to work with. I dont have a clue what to do with it. I think i'm going to find a good salon and just walk in and say "surprise me, just do something feminizing with it"
I think you'd look good with a something like i used to have, I wish I could find it for you but it was kinda a bob with side swept bangs. Not super long.
Still wanna make out with you.
This is it!
Still wanna make out with you.
Honey if you find your way up to the frigid north one of these days believe me, i'd show you a hell of a time.
I like the old haircut there! im just not sure my hair is thick enough. It's super-thin. On the other hand, i'm not sure WHAT i can do with it, and if I think I can pull that off i'd love to try it. It's a little bit pixie, a little bit mod, and the long side-swept bangs work much better than a short fringe (for me at least, i bet you could pull off the fringe). It's definitely on my list of maybes if i have any input in the haircut at all!
MTP I forgot how cute you used to be.
Mostly because I just concentrate on how cute you are now :)
Ibs - you might want to think about hair extensions.
Not to lengthen, but you can get them just to "fill out" or thicken your hair.
I've had them twice to lengthen my hair and they are a pain to take care of, but it's all about how important your image is to you. Turns out mine wasn't... I pulled one set out myself in the end. I wasn't in a good place though.
They're expensive to get and maintain, but if you find a local hairdressing college or a place that needs to train staff then the cost will shrink dramatically.
I know what you've said before about hating to expose your fledgling self to strangers. But do try to close your eyes and step off the board. Hairdressers in general are a sympathetic bunch. And surely more open-minded in your part of the world. It's generally considered a gay-friendly profession, so TG/TS friendly is perhaps not much more of a stretch?
Just don't get your hair cut if you are considering extensions. The more you have, the better it can be added. Again, note, I am not talking about adding length, just fullness.
The TG lady who works in my local supermarket has a bald spot. I feel for her.
Then again she has a musician boyfriend and is very happy.
Bitch.
Ibs, looking good m'dear!
Get your hairdresser to layer your hair, that will help give it a litle more body and look less thin and flyaway. Or, as Sundae suggested, investigate hair extensions.
Here's alittle ad site that talks about using them for thin hair:
http://www.lucindaellery.com/fine-hair.phpFrom what I know, layering will make your hair seem thinner. People with fine hair should stick with blunt or very light layering.
really? I heard the opposite...or I've misunderstood.
Yeah, I wouldn't layer fine hair like Ib has.
It's also worthwhile to keep in mind that you don't have to have long hair to look feminine. :)
Here are a couple to think about. If I were you, I wouldn't go for anything with wispy ends, or at least maybe just around the face. The thing with most women's cuts is to try to frame the face and bring out the good features rather than to simply get the hair off your face. Think about what features you want to enhance eg. jaw line, eyes, lips etc, and then look at styles that do those things. If you can find a good stylist, he/she should be able to make suggestions on how you would go about doing that.
It's important to note also that all these women have heaps of product in their hair. They don't just wake up with their hair looking like that. ;) Most styles do need product unless you're really lucky to find the perfect cut that you like and which makes you look good.
It's also worthwhile to keep in mind that you don't have to have long hair to look feminine. :)
I sorta do. Until I pass better with longer hair, it's at least a small marker that says "hey don't call me 'sir". Honestly I'd rather just have a rachel maddow cut or something similarly short and tomboyish, but as it stands now that would only make me look more masculine.
I don't think it would Ibs. Done right a shorter style will be feminzing.
Yeah, I agree with Dana. There are plenty of men with long hair these days, especially wispy/shaggy long hair. It will be so much more effective to rely on other markers like notably styled hair, light makeup, and shaped eyebrows.
I know you've still got a fear about just walking into a styling/waxing salon. But women do that. You'll need to embrace it. Perhaps instead of a large multi-chair salon, you should look for an independent stylist with their own shop. More expensive, but it will be private and the stylist will be more skilled as well.
It's not so much a fear as a hesitation, exacerbated by laziness.
It's on the list of things I need to do. Along with finding a job, and a doctor, and a shrink, and uh FRIENDS, and... yeah. It's less fear of that specifically and more, leaving my room is intimidating.
It's less fear of that specifically and more, leaving my room is intimidating.
Been there done that, albeit for different reasons.
So I won't suggest you
just do it.
Keep the advice bookmarked in your head for when it's less of a stress trigger though.
FTR I have very very fine hair and I have it layered to create the impression of body.
But I have a lot of hair. It won't do anything of its own accord but the layers make it easier to wrangle into a semblance of life. Unless layering means something different over here.
Thankyou! so not just me then :p
I think maybe it depends on which direction the layers go.
If the outer hair is cut shorter than the inner hair, then it gives the visual impression of curving outward as well as makes the top layers less heavy, causing both visual and real lift.
If the inner hair has been cut shorter, it basically eliminates the underpinnings of the outer hair, causing it to be flatter than it would be with proper support.
I'll just chuck my vote in here for the idea that styled hair can give the idea of femininity more than long hair ...
Speaking as someone who occasionally gets mistaken for a bloke, I have to say having longer hair made no difference to that whatsoever.
Also, I have over the years had a few male friends who have, for one reason or another, dressed and/or attempted to appear female. In my personal opinion the bigger, or longer hair styles were least effective in achieving that. With the sole exception being Jimmie's* beautiful ash blonde wig. But that was super straight and fine, and he had the perfect face shape for it. I tried it on and it just didn't do for me, what it did for him.
*a lad J and I flatshared with for short while. Started very friendly as these things do and then broke down into acrimonious fallouts...again as these things do :p
This was taken Saturday night by Amanda's friend Erin. She had it on facebook before I woke up the next morning. A work associate said I looked scary, my son linked some dating site axe murderer meme. (he's like the world authority on memes at this point)...
anyway... here's that shot... Amanda didn't like this shot of her, but I do.
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Yes, you look scary...but scary in a fun movie kind of a way. And Amanda looks great! She reminds me of an actress but damned if I can work out which one
I like that picture. You look like you're having fun.
Amanda didn't like this shot of her, but I do.
Dude, what? Amanda's hot.
Another long day almost over.
And here, a long hot day is over...
HDR version
Good to see you Sarge! You've started a craze here!
Good morning! Beautiful day today!
Now that's just ridiculous! Who actually owns a pool area like that??? lol
Pool my foot. That was the house, until that last hurricane...
And on behalf of all those in the southern latitudes, I say to all you sandal-shod Northerners enjoying your late-spring early-summer ... :p: Bzthzthzthzzzz!
Yes, you look scary
You look like you're having fun.
Look like Orson Wells.
Looks kinda/sorta like the Techno-Viking.
And on behalf of all those in the southern latitudes, I say to all you sandal-shod Northerners enjoying your late-spring early-summer ... :p: Bzthzthzthzzzz!
March was hot, with 15,000 record high temperatures set in the US. It was far and away the warmest March in the nation's history, and only a single month—January of 2006—was as far off from the monthly average.
Now that's just ridiculous! Who actually owns a pool area like that??? lol
Everyone in Florida has one ... it's a law.
Got a haircut and got my brows done today!
not the best photo, but.
what do you think?
Hm. the more I look the more i can see that you can't tell much from the photo. It's short in the back, long on the sides, and voluminous and kinda up on the top.
seem to have either surprised or confused myself with the camera. silly face aside. this might be a better shot.
what do you think?
I think you should get your mustache waxed is what I think. Not trying to be a jerk.... but you've got a caterpillar there.
I think that's a good haircut Ib. You need to make sure you style it though, otherwise it's just going to look ratty, especially as it grows out.
Jim, are you sure it's not just a shadow? I can see what you're talking about, but only because you mentioned it.
no, I'm not sure... but I noticed it in the last set too. I didn't say anything then.. but if he got his eyebrows done... I just thought the lip would occur to him.
the problem is, to get it waxed, i'd have to grow it out more. what you're seeing is just shadow - not a shadow, but like, of the 5:00 variety. Except its there even when i'm fresh-shaved because im so pale.
Also, i've heard that waxing the lip is not recommended for MtFs. The hair is so dense and heavy, and holds into the pore more, and can take big chunks of skin with it.
Maybe i'm wrong. Any guys out there ever waxed their 'stache?
Just use a hair removal product. You can get ones for sensitive areas. One day, maybe you'll be able to afford electrolysis.
Actually, I have a home one here that sort of does the job that you could have if you wanted. I've never been motivated enough to bother actually doing it, but it might be a bit stronger in you. Just let me know.
Again, hair removal products are almost always designed for female-bodied people, and can have unpredictable and dramatically negative results unless they're made for male-bodied people.
Well you can spot test them. Don't just assume it's not going to work for you, and don't assume that just cause one doesn't work, another wont be better. There are heaps of options.
I know it's a tough road you're on, but honestly, you seem to be really quick with the negatives to many suggestions.
.
A bong in the back ground of your picture should get you a job in no time!:rolleyes:
I'd call that the foreground, really. The subject even.
I'd call that the foreground, really. The subject even.
Great. Be sure to let us all know where you get your next job. We can let them make the decision..... I will save a copy for you.
YEAH GASP THE MAGIC INTERNET FAIRIES ARE GOING TO TELL MY NEXT BOSS
I BET THEY ALREADY TOLD MY NEXT BOSS NOT TO HIRE ME, IN THE FUTURE, CAUSE THE MAGIC INTERNET FAIRIES ARE TIME-TRAVELERS TOO YKNOW
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............! :lol2:
BTW, are you actually employed yet in your field of study or did your parents waste their money on your education?
I'm still in school, but I've already got a couple years of experience working in my field, including about six months of higher-level work.
Great! Good luck. I hope you make it in your field of study and didn't waste that money of your 1%er parents....
Definitely not 1%, squarely middle class. Weren't you military? You know nobody in the military makes it to the 1%.
No one who lives in Singapore is below 1%. Don't blow smoke up our skirts.
And you went to private schools. No one in the military can afford that.
I've only been to singapore once.
I lived in Taiwan.
I went to Taipei American School BECAUSE my father is military, and because we were assigned to the (non-)embassy in Taiwan, and we didn't pay for it - YOU did. ALL military dependent children overseas go to international schools in their countries of assignment, if there isn't a military-run school there.
You're talking out of your ass, merc, and you clearly don't know me or my life. Go ahead, keep trying to tell me I'm wealthy.
I'm solidly middle-class. upper-middle maybe. My dad retired as a Major and currently still works for uncle sam as a civilian, and my mother works full-time. We have money, enough to live on and to splurge sometimes, but we are not wealthy, and no amount of you making things up about me is going to change that.
Keep trying though. If you say it often enough it might come true! I'd love to have some more money.
Good for you. Nor do I really care. Anyone who can afford to send their kids to out of state private college is rich to me..... and that is what you did.
Listen you two, "The Cellar: Habitat for Humility" doesn't mean you're supposed to take turns trying to humble each other. Of course, if this is just your way of flirting, the two of you can always start your own Social Group.
Listen you two, "The Cellar: Habitat for Humility" doesn't mean you're supposed to take turns trying to humble each other. Of course, if this is just your way of flirting, the two of you can always start your own Social Group.
:lol: I think you nailed it
Lots of .....whatever this was going around.
Somebodys ruff is up.
Christ Merc, stop it already.
If you don't care, stop asking questions.
Ibs is only answering.
Doesn't merc remind you of Kevin Spacey's neighbor in American Beauty?
He's not "asking" - he's jabbing with his little pointy stick.
The fear and hate are palpable.
Quick, someone take a photo of their nonnie.
Not a nonnie, no, but ... :tuba: RF yesterday
What's a nonnie?
Kevin Spacey's neighbor in American BEauty?
Kevin Spacey's neighbor in American BEauty?
The closeted gay military guy? ;)
(Touches forefinger to nose)
Ding Ding Ding DIng...
I see Limey's tuba! Nice location for a jubilee concert.
Hi Limey! Looking good as always.
A nonnie is a tuppence, a twinkle, a lady garden.
ETA - seeya!
Kevin Spacey's neighbor in American BEauty?
:lol: <good one>
I wanna bee in pictures!
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I have tons of ties. I posted on tumblr that I had lots of ties and miss wearing them. Then I took silly pictures of myself wearing ties in silly ways.
Apologies for the eyes. Having a nice evening.
Any suggestions about what to do with ties in a lady-wardrobe, considering I don't really have any buttondowns anymore?
one of my game cameras caught me puttering around the homestead today. as some of you know, i've lost my job. i'm trying to enjoy my little slice of heaven before i have to move. i guess this time i'll downsize to a tent. lol
Sarge it is so good to see you smiling.
Keep us up to date - miss you on email already.
Just remember you have a lot of friends here.
And children who adore you and whose lives you have shaped.
You're a hero in so many ways.
Ibs you look gorgeous.
One word - eyebrows.
Yes, definitely need to soften those eyebrows a little. Lookin cute though :)
@ Sundae: did you see that pic of Ibs and think 'Marmalade!' or what?
@ Sarge: keep chipper mate. This too will pass.
Oh aye!
I think she was my first female crush.
Marmalade Atkins?
Ibs, can you sew? I've seen dresses made out of a whole bunch of ties sewn edge to edge vertically.
There's that or bondage games.
Lookin good Sarge. Glad and relieved to see you.
Hang tight.
Yes, definitely need to soften those eyebrows a little. Lookin cute though :)
i did :( I got them waxed when i got my hair cut.
i did :( I got them waxed when i got my hair cut.
Oh, I didn't mean they were like, dead bushy or anything. I think the colour could be softened though.
But ya know. That's just my opinion.
or dye your hair darker......
Photo224 by
zippyt, on Flickr
If only an image could be a cellar tag line......
Omg I'm in love. In the pool, with miller lite can/bottles, and a cig hanging out your mouth. I salute you, zippyt! :)
Zippy, just as I imagined you. Almost a Hunter S. look without the fame.... :lol:
:D very nice!
Say, could Big Sarge come and hang out with you for a week? It'd cheer him up some, I think.
caption:
"zippyt, through the looking glass"
Sarge can come crash here with us if he wants! Nice, quiet neighborhood, small pool, plenty of beer. Must like dogs. :D
Pam
Zippy, just as I imagined you. Almost a Hunter S. look without the fame.... :lol:
Nicely put.
:D very nice!
Say, could Big Sarge come and hang out with you for a week? It'd cheer him up some, I think.
Sarge totally need to go hang with zipper down by the river.... Zipper is the most wonderful host. I wonder if zipperville needs a new police chief?
Zippy, you a bad mutha fucka
someone wrote the printing on yer can backwards
Zippy, you a bad mutha shut yo mouth
SIFY ('Shaft'ed It For Ya)
*******************************
And, Sarge:
I'm sorry 'bout ur job. Eh, screw 'em. Get a betterer job, that'll learn 'em!
Echoing Sundae...It's good to see you smile!
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Is that a GEO Tracker?
Geo Tracker/Suzuki Sidekick whichever...BUT:
Don't laugh.
Yet.
This is prolly what would happen if Sarge went to stay w/Zippeh:
[COLOR="Red"]NSFW[/COLOR] language.
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:lol2:
Holy fuckin shit!
yebbut they'd land it in the river full of nekkid chicks.
looks like a jersey plate... there is a band of rednecks in the pines...
We're like roaches and fleas, we're everywhere.
Parents gave me some money for job interview clothes, which I took to include some nicer (but cheap-ass) jewelry.
New earrings for the first time ever!
Cute job-interview top! (oh yeah, also, I'll be fundraising for VPIRG starting tomorrow for minimum wage plus 10% of what i fundraise past the quota, so i guess the top worked!)
New necklace - anyone know what kind of rock that is?
New bag - thrift stores rock! less than $15 for it. Perfect size for my phone, wallet, cigarette case, keys, and a lighter. leaving my tiny little lady-jean pockets free. my only other bag is this gigantic Converse purse from Target that's entirely perfect for taking textbooks to class and useless for going out to dinner or popping out for a drink.
nice!
You look great Ibram. I'd say the pendant is
agate.
Parents gave me some money for job interview clothes, which I took to include some nicer (but cheap-ass) jewelry.
Rich..... :lol:
yeah, gosh, $150 dollars for clothes so I can get a job, considering I have had all of four months to build a wardrobe, is really exorbitant! Dude, I shop at fucking Goodwill. What the fuck point are you trying to make here? You honestly think you can tell me how much money I have?
yeah, gosh, $150 dollars for clothes so I can get a job, considering I have had all of four months to build a wardrobe, is really exorbitant! Dude, I shop at fucking Goodwill. What the fuck point are you trying to make here? You honestly think you can tell me how much money I have?
Crying me a shot glass of tears.... could give a shit.
So you prove you don't give a shit by harassing me about imaginary money every time I post in this thread?
YOU HAVE MONEY
I don't really have that much money, i do okay, but i'm not rich
I DONT CARE CRY ME A RIVER IM NOT LISTENING LAH LAH LAH
what're you trying to prove here, merc? If you, for no good reason whatsoever, decide to harass me, and I point out where you're just making shit up, you can't reply with IDGAF. That's just, nonsensical. If you're just getting your kicks being a colossal douchebag, whatever, but don't post obvious bullshit to bait and harass me then say you don't care if I respond. It's just stupid. You obviously care, you won't shut the fuck up about it.
just getting your kicks being a colossal douchebag,
:eyerolls:
d'ya think??
Christ on a bike. Merc, what the fuck is your problem? Ibs is right, you're just harrassing her now. You are being a nasty little shit, as they say in my neck of the woods. A tosser, a dickwad, a total and utter cunt.
You're a bully. A snide and cruel bully. You've set your target on someone young enough to be your child and cleverer than you'll ever be and to what end?
And here you are. In the RFN pic where dwellars put themselves, not their politics, their faith or their views, but themselves out there. being a shit and dragging your class war out front.
Nobody wants to hear it. At least I don't think they do. I certainly fucking don't. Not in here.
There's a report post button that mentions harassment. Just sayin'
you? no.
it was a general comment for the education of the general population, just in case anyone shared our feelings about the off-topic invasion of this thread.
Ibs is right, you're just harrassing her now.
Her?
I think that happened while you weren't around much.
Surprise!
Bruce, meet Erika. Erika, Bruce.
There's a report post button that mentions harassment. Just sayin'
Done.
Congratulations Ibs. You have discovered my secret too! I also shop at thrift stores and find some good stuff there. Just beware of cheap Chinese "dollar store" jewelry... it can discolor your skin. And it DOESN'T wash off!
I found a cute purse there too, for five bucks. It's denim, nearly new, has plenty of pockets for stuff and, so far, it is a model for a "neat purse". Everything in it's place, no trash or junk and no fumbling needed. My wife hates me! LOL
I also have built up a basic wardrobe from various thrift stores. Mostly jeans, since I do a LOT of work around the house and I need something long and tough. And cheap, in case of irreparable damage. Cute T-shirt tops usually at home and blouses for out and about. I have a few skirts and dresses for when I meet that millionaire admirer. :D
You go right on shopping at thrift stores and don't let anyone look down their nose at you. You are being thrifty and "green" for reusing and not buying new. There is NOTHING wrong with that! ALL women love a bargain!
Lookin' GOOD!
Love
Pam
Can't we all just get along?
Can't we all just get along?
As funny as ever!
Can't we all just get a long rope and hang him?
that's maybe going a little too far......
Christ on a bike. Merc, what the fuck is your problem? Ibs is right, you're just harrassing her now. You are being a nasty little shit, as they say in my neck of the woods. A tosser, a dickwad, a total and utter cunt.
You're a bully. A snide and cruel bully. You've set your target on someone young enough to be your child and cleverer than you'll ever be and to what end?
And here you are. In the RFN pic where dwellars put themselves, not their politics, their faith or their views, but themselves out there. being a shit and dragging your class war out front.
Nobody wants to hear it. At least I don't think they do. I certainly fucking don't. Not in here.
DanaC is on report ... for turning me on with her sassy style.
Can't we all just get along?
Sure, but it helps if you say it like this: "Get along little doggies."
A long little doggie: dachsund.
Looking good, Ibram! I'm starting to get a better sense of the overall picture (I think) you're trying to convey. The haircut and earrings are nice. What kind of job is it you're interviewing for? I'd switch the jeans out for khaki slacks, at least. Everyone has to be stiff and uncomforable in a job interview. :)
Christ on a bike. Merc, what the fuck is your problem? Ibs is right, you're just harrassing her now.
This dude is not a "her" now or ever. Even if there is a sex change operation. It is called Gender Identity Disorder. This person could die and go in the ground and the DNA would say "Male".
You are being a nasty little shit, as they say in my neck of the woods. A tosser, a dickwad, a total and utter cunt.
Opinion, I could care less. I have a Right to it. I am not asking you to agree with me.
You're a bully. A snide and cruel bully. You've set your target on someone young enough to be your child and cleverer than you'll ever be and to what end?
Blaaaa, blaaaa, blaaa. Not impressed. Been there, done it.
And here you are. In the RFN pic where dwellars put themselves, not their politics, their faith or their views, but themselves out there. being a shit and dragging your class war out front.
Don't care. Throw it out there and take the fire.
Nobody wants to hear it. At least I don't think they do. I certainly fucking don't. Not in here.
Don't care. I don't want to hear a bunch of shit you have to say either. But I don't say that to you. I don't want to hear about your Socialist bullshit but I don't say that to you, so deal with it. We don't have to agree. And anyone who throws their self out in public can deal with the community. Just as I can, I can take it. Can HE?
Methinks the lady doth protest too much
....
For someone who doesn't care, that is.
I see Merc's on a seagull post run. flies in, shits everywhere........
Ibram, when you have tough teachers, they tell you to picture them nekkid. I really don't advise that with Merc, because you might bust a gut laughing, but it may help you to remember this:
He has to buy "love" -not just friends, but the only way he knows how to control his wife and daughters is with money too. And control them he must, because he knows he is superior to all females. With men, his currency is ex-services/rugby. You, he has no fucking idea how to deal and so goes for knee-jerk extermination. Because he is clearly superior to you and yet you don't seem to get that.
That kind of goes for the rest of us too. We (mostly) can't be bought (although dammit he's tried so hard) and we can't be intimidated physically. The only other joker up his sleeve is that he doesn't work at Walmart. He's kind of used to being respected for his career and he just can't get that he's so majorly "outranked" here by so many dwellars that we're just not impressed, that his only recourse is to verbally abuse us to the point where we might be grateful for a crumb of non-abuse. Some call it trolling.
So, just quit reacting. He ain't worth it. Remember, he's just spent 36 hours inhaling anaesthetic so he can buy something that will make someone pay him some attention. It's sad, really. :cry:
pretty good analysis monster.
I think it's a shame too because when mercy's not so fucking hostile, I appreciate his contributions, regardless of how much we agree or disagree. But the trolling, bullying, the vitriol. No fucking thanks.
I see Merc's on a seagull post run. flies in, shits everywhere........
Ibram, when you have tough teachers, they tell you to picture them nekkid. I really don't advise that with Merc, because you might bust a gut laughing, but it may help you to remember this:
:lol: that was good....
He has to buy "love" -not just friends, but the only way he knows how to control his wife and daughters is with money too.
Damm! you know my family? Really, just like I know yours!?!?!
And control them he must, because he knows he is superior to all females.
Now this shit is getting Good!... Please go on...
With men, his currency is ex-services/rugby. You, he has no fucking idea how to deal and so goes for knee-jerk extermination. Because he is clearly superior to you and yet you don't seem to get that.
But I thought Ibram was not a "man"? How did that work out for ya?
That kind of goes for the rest of us too. We (mostly) can't be bought (although dammit he's tried so hard) and we can't be intimidated physically.
You speak for "the rest of us"? Really....?
The only other joker up his sleeve is that he doesn't work at Walmart.
Thank fucking God....
He's kind of used to being respected for his career and he just can't get that he's so majorly "outranked" here by so many dwellars that we're just not impressed, that his only recourse is to verbally abuse us to the point where we might be grateful for a crumb of non-abuse. Some call it trolling.
:lol: Holy Crap, you are full of yourself.... I am "outranked" by no one. I am the same as everyone. And just like yourself, you have an ass hole on the bottom of you...
So, just quit reacting. He ain't worth it. Remember, he's just spent 36 hours inhaling anaesthetic so he can buy something that will make someone pay him some attention. It's sad, really. :cry:
:lol2: Innovative... but a big fail. Did you drink to much of your kids pool water? My income and what I do with it is none of your business, wealth envy much? Poor baby.
So you prove you don't give a shit by harassing me about imaginary money every time I post in this thread?
Look you are an adult now, not a teenager. You get no special treatment. You are a grown up. Act it.
YOU HAVE MONEY
I don't really have that much money, i do okay, but i'm not rich
I DONT CARE CRY ME A RIVER IM NOT LISTENING LAH LAH LAH
Not relevant. So you may be living in your car in 6 months, I don't care.
what're you trying to prove here, merc? If you, for no good reason whatsoever, decide to harass me, and I point out where you're just making shit up, you can't reply with IDGAF. That's just, nonsensical. If you're just getting your kicks being a colossal douchebag, whatever, but don't post obvious bullshit to bait and harass me then say you don't care if I respond. It's just stupid. You obviously care, you won't shut the fuck up about it.
Put your big girl panties on. Throw yourself out there and deal with it. I owe you nothing.... I am not trying to "bait" you, I am not trying to "harass you"... if you respond to anything I post I have the chance to do the same. It is not something special for you or at you. You are an adult. Throw your shit out there and think no one can say anything they want about what you post is silly. Get over yourself. I really don't care.
Why does ib's gender identity bother you so much merc? I mean why do you care so much?
Why does ib's gender identity bother you so much merc? I mean why do you care so much?
Don't, but if you throw it out there don't expect No Response...... GID is a serious issue.
Don't, but if you throw it out there don't expect No Response...... GID is a serious issue.
Ahahahahah oh god no stop .... Ahahahahah *snort*
Hey, look at it this way, he can always claim minority status and ask the Gobbernment to pay for his disability! :)
No one has a Right to tell this fool that he can or cannot be whom ever HE wants to be. Certainly not the Gobbernment.
No one has the Right to deny him his Rights under the Constitution of the United States of America, assuming he his a US citizen.
If he wants to pretend he is a Woman, he has a Right to do so. I will defend his Right to do so. But I don't have to agree with his choice. Move along, nothing to see here....
Dear Interwebs,
do we think Merc is drunk/impaired posting right now?
:lol:
(or do we think he's 12?)
i was thinking more like 11 and Mom and dadz are Out for the evening ,
just wait till yer dadz gets home and sees all the Bs you've posted and all the Porn sites you've been to on his Pc ;)
better not be wanting to date my 10yo.....
ITT all you people reach below Merc's level in order to do battle. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
What do you hope to accomplish?
I will defend his Right to do so. But I don't have to agree with his choice.
You have defended his right do so. And, no, you don't have to agree with his choice.
But, there has been assholishness by (almost) everyone in this conversation. All because of opinion, and the selective recognition of the right to have one, and the right to voice it.
BTW, I should know assholishness...
...I am General Asshole (Dwellars
elected me to this post), and I have spoken.
[SIZE="1"]So there.[/SIZE]
Ya know, I came to this board right now to share my happy that's school's out, but just fuck it.
I've got an idea, let's all try to be nicer to each other!
C'mon, let's hug it out.
:grouphug:
Ya know, I came to this board right now to share my happy that's school's out, but just fuck it.
I know you didn't mean it that way, but :lol2:
Fuck, man, I stand by every word.
That doesn't mean I wouldnt welcome a hug.
Ya know, I came to this board right now to share my happy that's school's out, but just fuck it.
If you can't stand two posts of push-back saying maybe it's inappropriate to say Merc wants to fuck your ten year old son, there's something deeper going on here, right?
I've got an idea, let's all try to be nicer to each other!
C'mon, let's hug it out.
:grouphug:
Seconded.
Warning, though...I make sticky if I hug too long.
If we can't be nice...we could be nic
er.
Have an odd day, e'erbody!
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Jeez Toad, she was referencing another post about the right age to date in America. It only works if you accept the premise that Merc is himself an 11 year old kid (as was the previous joke). It was a joke. Not remotely a suggestion that Merc is a pedo.
OK, let me put it another way:
If you can't stand two posts of push-back, there's something deeper going on here, right?
Fuck it. Seriously.
Oh, I'll fuck it.
But, Ima be all "Dodo-dodey-ohdo-woohoo-hoohoododeyohdo" the whole time.
I'm not gonna be serious.
Haggis!
Spoken like a true fellow Dodo.
Will the Exalted Order of Dodos please come to order?
I'll have a cheeseburger and fries, hold the hugs.
If you can't stand two posts of push-back, there's something deeper going on here, right?
Because this is the wrong thread.
I can talk all over the board about being overweight and wah, wah, wah. And people can respond in any way they want.
But if I post a photo here I should not be subjected to people ridiculing me and my life choices.
I wouldn't expect anyone to write "Ooh Sundae, how slim you are!" but I also would not expect vitriol.
And two posts of push-back on here is just the cherry on the topping of the unpleasantness of this ongoing situation. Ibs has a hard furrow to plough in his life. Merc is fully entitled to his opinion. But for goodness sake take it out of a thread in which traditionally Dwellars either make complimentary or constructive remarks or just don't bother to say anything.
NB - I am not suggesting that being fat is in any way comparable to gender issues. It's just the only way I can relate.
I'll have a cheeseburger and fries, hold the hugs.
Seconds?
No thanks, I'm still working on my Forty Ounce Double Dose Dietary Diabetes Drink.
ITT all you people reach below Merc's level in order to do battle. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
What do you hope to accomplish?
If you can't stand two posts of push-back saying maybe it's inappropriate to say Merc wants to fuck your ten year old son, there's something deeper going on here, right?
OK, let me put it another way:
If you can't stand two posts of push-back, there's something deeper going on here, right?
Yeah, ^WHS^. Approach the situation with a dignity befitting a Dwellar. I don't mean hugging the crap out of each other either. I mean constructive criticism when one dwellar is expending an unhealthy amount of energy on another dwellar. It takes two to tango: Ibram isn't your little Ibby anymore, nor is Merc your nemesis. There was irrelevant posting in an images thread that made both users inappropriate.
Beyond that, it has always been open season on attention whores regardless of their cause.
Moderators, it would help if you moved posts that go beyond reasonable thread drift - even if you have to create another sub-forum in Meta called "TBC" (To Be Continued); or, whatever. Unless; of course, you enjoy the drama.
[Rod Sterling]Submitted for your approval[/Twilight Zone]:
{Oh, wow, man, I said
Wait a second, man
What do you think our Ibby's gonna look like this week?
Fuck man!}
Oh yeah, I-I-Ibby stop that whorin'
Ibby don't you see? Don't wanna be no Cellar hen
Maybe I should go to hell but I am doing well
Ibby needs to hear from me in U R-F-N
I think of all the Current Events that I've missed
But then even Politics was never quite like this
Ow! Got it bad, got it bad, got it bad, I'm hot for Ibby
I've got it bad, so bad, I'm hot for Ibby
{Hey, I heard you missed me, I'm back!
I brought my at-ti-tude
Give me something to harp on, man
Whoa}
I heard about his assets but assets are so cold
I don't know about this fool
Wannabe girl from Cherry Lawn, how can you be so bold?
Now do you know the golden rule?
I think of all the Current Events that I've missed
But then even Politics was never quite like this
Whoa! Got it bad, got it bad, got it bad
I'm hot for Ibby
I've got it bad, so bad
I'm hot for Ibby, whoa
{Oh man, I think this download is slow
What are you postin' this weekend?
I don't feel like a bully
Critics dismissed}
Ooh, yeah
I've got it bad, got it bad, got it bad
I'm hot for Ibby
Whoa Oh!
Yes I'm hot
Oh my God!
Erika!
Outstanding adaptation.
I could take or leave the subject matter, but, yeah, outstanding!
:thumb:
All it takes is another RFN post and it goes away.
The nieces, nephew and myself.
Good one Joe - Happy Father's Day ;)
From the look on there faces you must have been showing them your porn stash.:lol2:
Wow, cute kids. They're going to break some hearts one day. :) You're not so bad yourself Joe. ;)
I'm the one grinning big. I think I'm the only one happy to be here
That smile shines out.
Thanks Sarge.
Holy crap! Is that the grandmother of all oxymorons I see?
MI = Military Intelligence?
[/joshin]
If'n y'all lay down on those stones we wouldn't be able to see you, apart from your Big Grin, that is, Sarge!!
Here I am today (7-9-12) with all my flowers and Wyn (who refused to look into the camera). The landlord told me I couldn't have a garden because he didn't want to pay for the water, so all my flowers and herbs are in containers.
Hi!
•spoken in to my phone
Petunias are such a happy flower! Great picture Sam! Wyn is so adorable...:)
I have petunias that came back from last year. And they are doing great.
Thanks, Pico! I love petunias too. They come in so many colors and varieties and don't need much care. I actually have other flowers in those planters but I'm afraid the petunias have taken over.
Aren't you lovely SAM with all your flowers and that fab little doggie! :)
Looking good Sam! The 'garden' looks really lovely and colourful, and as for Wyn, what a cutiepie. Gotta love corgis. Those ikkle legs and big ears. too cute.
You've really made the place look nice. It increases the property value (and rent rates) for your landlord to have such curb appeal. He should be happy.
That is a lovely collection of flowers! And maybe your landlord did you a favor anyway--if you do ever decide to move, you can take all your nice planters with you. He's not worthy of them.
Well, thanks everyone! The way I see it flowers and the companionship of fur faced friends are what make life worth living
You've really made the place look nice. It increases the property value (and rent rates) for your landlord to have such curb appeal. He should be happy.
Hah! The only thing that makes my landlord happy is cold, hard cash. He does as little as possible to the 4-plex I'm living in. And this place is in a nice neighborhood made up of single family homes. However, the landlord told us that we cannot even water the small patch of lawn in front of our apartments. As a result, the other 3 apartments have dead brown grass and it looks awful. All the neighbors hate Calixo (yes, his real name) and the tenents do as well.
I sneak out at night and water both my plants and the lawn. I live in the end unit and there is a large chunk of lawn adjacent to my place. I water that too, and now I have what I call my meadow, since Calixo never cuts my "illegal" lawn. I think all the Buddhist prayer flags I have hung up deflect Calixo's wrath. ;)
This is me on the left RFN, yah no face shot LOL! My ankles look fab! The 4-Her in the middle and the Grand Champion steer she bought from us last fall, she worked on and fed, she had just won the breed and he would later go in the ring to win the whole show. My hub on the right walking away with clippers to help another kid get their calf ready to show :)
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I don't usually bother looking thru these Dwellar photo threads, but I decided to do so today...lookin' good people.
Your husband has gone Hawaiian, Nirvana. :D
Concrats to a pretty lady on her victories!
Samiam, your description of your landlord makes me appreciate a former landlord of mine. He did all the grounds maintenance for a triplex I lived in, including planting annuals around the building and coming by to water them every single day.
They don't make 'em like that anymore.
Nicely done with what you have to work with! And cute doggie.
Your husband has gone Hawaiian, Nirvana. :D
You know how athletes sometimes wear stuff cause they think its lucky? My hub wears ugly Hawaiian shirts at cattle shows ;)
He may be on to something, she won. ;)
Joe has military background yeah? yeah? please let it be a yes!!
Zip - I am soooo coming to your place to have beers in your pool.
Ibby, I like your eyebrows. But I am not a fan of pencil thins eyebrows and I had a nasty experience where a customer had their eyebrows bleached or something and they were all discoloured and it kinda freaked me out....I'd like my eyebrows to be a bit longer and fuller, but its such a bloody hard thing to get happening.
Lovely pic, Sam :)
the judge, me and Henri, got this today so its almost RFN ;)
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I like your pic sam. I like yours too Nirvana. Somehow, it needs a caption.
Nirvana - you are as beautiful as ever!
Sam - I love your pic & your wonderful smile. Great flowers too!
Very nice ladies. Congrats too!
If you look really close at Henri, he's smiling.
Cuz he knows its "Winna winna chicken dinna!"
My daughters know have proof that I'm a sweet little angel
Snoring attracts scorpions, ya know, Sarge. ;)
And puppies.
Last time I pretended to be asleep and did a snoring noise Carrot jumped on my face.
What a sweet face!
Me RFLast Night
I *love* those pink outfits!
Awesome! Lookin good Sundae. And you both look like you're having great fun.
I am a voyeur at heart and I so love this thread :D FB ain't got nuttin on the Cellar. You guys rock! :)
Just back from the hospital. Abigail is now free to leave!
Last chance for a cuddle away from the grandparents.
Liam and me (Jack was being fed - it's not because he pooped on me last time, honest)
Dayum, that's an itsy-bitsy baby!
Awww Sundae, that's the most beautiful picture I have ever seen of you. You are truly "beaming". You can bet I'll be saving this one
What a sweetie! And the baby's cute too! :P
About an hour ago, on the Clackamas River, OR
What is that? Take your Grandfather To Work day?
Lamp, that is prettymuch exactly not what i expected you to look like!
You remind me a lot of my uncle Harry. Trust me, that's a compliment.
I think Lamp looks like Abe Lincoln. lol If not him, one of those other founding father type people of yours.
Awww Sundae, that's the most beautiful picture I have ever seen of you. You are truly "beaming". You can bet I'll be saving this one
She is!
:)
Hi Lamp! Great Picture...:)
Another one for the album.
Diz and I had a disagreement last night. My point was that it is reasonable to be able to sleep unmolested. Whereas he rather forcibly suggested that if he slips while jumping onto the bed, it is acceptable to use part of my face as a launch pad.
I'm not sure we fully resolved the issue.
NB - Dad was unable to see any change in my face this morning. Good job I've never been in an abusive relationship...
Haha...Dad's can be such tools sometimes. lol
Lucky it's only the eyelid and not the actual eye itself that got scratched!
Poor Sundae! At least it's a pretty color!
and Lamplighter? I didn't know the Amish were allowed to use computers...? ;)
Lamplighter, I love the picture! It's great.
And Sundae, you poor thing. At least it matches your hair, which is awesome.
You giuse didn't know that Lamp is Flint's GrandPa?
pffff
Nice to *see* you Lamp.
That. It's nice to have a face to 'see' whilst reading your posts!
Lamp, that is pretty much exactly not what i expected you to look like!...
And that, too!
Nice catch by the way.
:) :) :)
It's been fun reading the posts about what Dwellars expected.
Thanks for the various compliments...
And V was completely right, it was a "Take Your Grandfather to Work Day" :D
But it all does sort of make me wonder what Dwellars
would've posted to show what they were expecting ;)
.
Oh, the real you is much better, so much much more interesting! That picture just represents how I saw the part of you that is smart, compassionate and considerate.
Nice to see you happy. :D
All the dwellar folk lookin fine.
Lola that's the most awesomely cute pic evah.
And NbN you look so laid back :)
Regarding my mental image of Lamplighter: I always imagined an Alan Alda type.
Me, right a day or two ago:
Hi, lookin' good. :thankyou:
Stormie, looking great! Doggy looks adorable too,
Hehe....I was just being silly. :p:
Nice choice on the cartoon characters. Nowt quite so cheery as Snoopy and Woodstock.
Why doesn't NBN have nearly naked women in the background of his pic??
Why doesn't NBN have nearly naked women in the background of his pic??
I give up, why
doesn't NBN have nearly naked women in the background of his pic??
Maybe because he's in a public restaurant he chose for the food rather than entertainment.;)
Maybe because he's in a public restaurant he chose for the food rather than entertainment.;)
The NBN I know would
never do that!
;)
The nearly naked women are behind the camera, that's why.
Maybe he didn't have any singles.
Me a week or so ago, fooling around trying to get a pic and being mostly thwarted by my two very needy Siamese cats ...
BeeBee insists on being front and center, as always ...
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Naughty, Naughty Zoot gets in on the act ...
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Finally a pic alone! (Uh oh, I hear the fridge door opening ... where did those cats go??!!)
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Hiya Ortho - Nice to see you smile.
Hiya back, classic - yeah, I'm still smiling. Even this week ... :)
i see we have another beautiful woman in the cellar!
Oh yes, the place is crawling with them... fortunately.
Orthodoc you owe me a new hotness meter, you just broke it because it didn't go to 11.
Ortho you are so cute - love the glasses, they suit you very well.
And such a beautiful smile (I expect the teeth of course, but the smile itself is lovely).
Sadly, as much as I think it important to speak up for the sistahs, I am even more smitten by your cats... I'd like to dine with you, but it's the cats I want to cuddle!
Sadly, as much as I think it important to speak up for the sistahs, I am even more smitten by your cats... I'd like to dine with you, but it's the cats I want to cuddle!
I hear you ... the cats are ultimate cuddlers! They don't give me a moment's peace - so needy, they jump right into the shower with me! :eek: But loving, happy girls. :)
the only way that was possible is that my son did everything from take the pic via webcam to post it here - LOL! I'm so clueless!
Oh, and he was doing body-builder poses in the background! that's why he's all blurry.
this is my NON ginger son. The ginger is doing magic tricks somewhere in the tri-state area.
*waves again* Hi, Bri! So nice to see you!!
son is
Photobombing you.
oh, and um.. you're looking extra cute Bri! I would kiss you right on the lips.
And, ortho... i would buy you a nice seafood dinner.
Wow! Bri you are so cute! I would get into a fistfight with Jim if he tried to kiss you on the lips.
Hi Cellar ladies!
It's great to see you all.
aw...thanks, guys. I've lost a teeny bit of weight since you last saw that hideous pic that monster took of me but I'm still a potato face.
But, like Sundae, I prefer to think that I am a staple and men have starved for wanting me.
;)
didn't think I remembered that, did you Sundae? I wrote the entire quote down in my little book of horrors! Some day, you'll all be in my novel!
;)
Bri! Oh you brave lady.
And guess what? You were too beautiful all this time to even worry about it.
Gorgeous.
Thanks for sharing.
ETA just read your last post.
Colour me flattered.
God look at you! You look in your 20s.
Wow, Bri is a hottie too! Plus, you look so young.
I guess all that vodka preserved me. (Not really -- it's called Lancome "hide your hideous youthful mistakes" foundation)
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Wow, the kid looks like Stifler. That would make you...STIFLER'S MOM!!:eek:
Finch: Oh, Jeanine, Jeanine!
Stifler's Mom: Call me Stifler's Mom.
Finch: [orgasmic noise] STIFLER'S MO-O-O - OM!
OD you look marvelous darling! And we definitely have to take the :crone: emotie away from Bri! :P
Instead of the tip mug, we should have a calendar of all the beautiful ladies of the Cellar. We have more than enough on here. Of course, we still have a bunch of bitter old crones (over 40 yoa) on here too.
Of course, we still have a bunch of bitter old crones (over 40 yoa) on here too.
Them's fightin' words.... :eek:
Now there's no stopping me (evil laugh here)
Nobody wants to. ;)
You look a lot like my younger cousin Rach. Especially with the glasses on.
Bri, you really are beautiful considering your age. You don't look a day over 55
*slaps Sarge*
Lay off the koolaid, you're getting giddy :p
aww, I hope everyone knows I'm just teasing
I know, I know.
:crone: :)
Here's a pic of my hiding in a port-a-john today. I couldn't hide too long because of the heat, but it was a nice break. LOL
See the woman with the serious camera, in a serious photographic posture? I'ma marry her on October 13.
Really? Oh Els, how wonderful!
Congratulations honey. Happiness and fulfilment to you both.
There ya go buddy! Congrats.
Happily ever after. :celebrat:
Congratulations, Elspode! I hope there will be photos. Hint, hint. :)
From the "Land of the Free" to the "Home of the Brave"
YAY! That's so awesome Els!! All the happiness to you both!!!
Sorry Sarge some things just trump latrine photos ;)
Lovely pic, Sarge, TMI maybe?
Congrats big Els. She'd better treat you right or she'll have us to answer to!
(not meaning to sound aggressive to the woman you love, but, well... you know)
Me, RF Last Night.
Went to a girlie BBQ with Mum last night. I was the girliest - 5 years younger than the next girl. It was good fun though, had some good chats, aired some opinions, sang some songs. I was invited by the host, but when Mum passed the invite on to me it seemed lukewarm. It was only that she repeated it, and has been despairing of me hardly ever leaving the house that made me consider it. Then, as I was actually getting ready to go, she knocked on my door to say she was getting ready to go to the BBQ and was I interested? Which banished my fears that she didn't want me there.
I might post some more in the Aylesbury thread, as we discussed some things (like 50 Shades of Grey) and I have more pics.
But this is me last night.
I look very big.
But it's not a self-portrait for once.
And I like my hair.
I don't think you look 'very big' in either of those shots, Chez. I was actually thinking you look really lovely.
Also, how is that you appear to be getting younger? Is there a painting in your attic of you looking haggard?
Bravo Spode!
Sarge I'm trying not to smell that porto.:dead:
Congrats 'spode!!! So happy for you both :)
Good stuff Els...and good luck! lol
I think you look just like you in those pics Sundae. You are what you are. The camera doesn't lie. ;)
Sarge...you couldn't find somewhere else to hide? Those potties are usually the stinkiest places in the universe as far as my nose is concerned. I'd rather do hard labour than sit in one for nothing. lol
Congratulations Els!!!! Sundae, you look ravishing & I have to agree that top is "marvelous". As for me, they never think to come looking for you in the port-a-john. It's the best place to hide when its time for bodies for some senseless detail. BTW, we refer to them as shit details. Sort of ironic?
Sundae - you're gorgeous. Simply and elegantly gorgeous. And I love that top, too!
Dana's comment about the decrepit pic in the attic gave me a laff.
You girls are wunnerful, wunnerful.
Congrats Els. Wishing you both much happiness.
Congrats, Elspode. Enjoy!
This is Max and me RFN. I had my hair cut and coloured yesterday, then straightened so was trying to take a selfie, but someone stuck his head in, so he's in it too. :)
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Lookin' good! (And he's cu-UTE!)
Yeah, everyone says he's cute. Even those who meet him in person. lol I only wish half as many thought I was so cute. :(
This is Max not me, but the pic is so cute I thought you'd all like to see anyway. :)
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Ali, you are beautiful. Love your hair.
Ha Ha Photo bombed by MAX !!!!
Yer both Goooorgus My dear !!!
Great pics Ali! You are definitely a hottie! Pics of Max make me want to say, "Awwwww".
Like I have said before, we have so many beautiful women on here.
Cute pic Ali. Looking good.
Thanks fellas. :) I came here looking for compliments, and look what I got! Lucky me. xx for you both.
awwwwwwwwwww.....the pix of Max with the doggies is so cute.
Yeah...:) The really cute part is that they do that all the time. Cleo lays down and Max goes and gets Sally and makes her lay down with them. Sometimes in the carport, sometimes in the dog house, sometimes on the lawn. Anywhere really.
Thanks for all the kind words, folks. And Ali, you're looking great! I can't believe how big Max is. Just doesn't seem that long since you were pregnant with him...
You are both cute and beautiful, Ali.
And Max ain't half bad looking either.
This is Max not me, but the pic is so cute I thought you'd all like to see anyway. :)
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Too cute. Just adorable. The little dog looks blissfully happy, and the big dog looks relaxed but protective. Max seems in his element.
Love to see kids experiencing close bonds with animals.
[eta] Loving the straight hair Ali.
Thanks Dana. :)
Those dogs love that boy so much. He spends a lot of his play time with them..and in his little kid way, he's not very nice to them at times. He does things like picks Sally up and puts her in the water bucket because he thinks she needs a bath - which is usually true, but a bucket of cold water on a cool morning is probably not desirable. If the dogs are lying next to the garden, he'll run his trucks over them or shovel dirt on them (then of course give them a bath). Sometimes he sits on Cleo and bounces up and down till she gets sick of it and stands up.
Mostly they just tag along after him and make themselves comfy somewhere within a couple of metres of where he's playing though. He's well and truly one of the pack as far as they're concerned, and they indulge him just as they would a pup. It's just lovely to see.
Remember ^^THAT^^ next time your "in a mood. ;)
Love that hair Sundae!
Ali, your lips are beautiful.
Just bored at work.
Looking good,girl. I like the hair
Did you post that when you took it? Were you working at 7:53 am on a Sunday? Won't that get you burned at the stake in Texas?;)
The hair looks nice, and so does the halo.
You look so happy to be at work mtp. ;)
eta: Don't know if I've ever told you think before, but often when I look at pics of you, they remind me of myself. I think it's your colouring which is similar to mine when I'm in my natural state. I hope you find that complimentary, cause I think I'm hot! ;)
Thank you all.
@Ali, thank you for the special compliment
@Rich, it was 6:53am my time. I'm surprised the building wasn't burned down around my ears.
If you see a boot car, you don't have a choice. You have to pose.
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There was a young man who drove in a shoe
he had so many traffic tickets he didn't know what to do
Hmm, so you're planning on running for Vice-President in the future. It has to carry as much weight as the Weinermobile. ;)
Beat me to it Bruce! Nice shot Glatt.
@Glatt and the boot vehicle: super cool!
You look radiant there MTP.
Like someone with no worries, which is great to see when I know you've been through the mill lately.
Have you lost weight?
You're looking good on it anyway.
mtp - you have pearly whites! you are really looking good
Glatt - were you at Bean's ?
I saw the car at Bean's in Freeport, and then two days later at a parade in Lewiston for the hot air balloon festival.
My beloved, I *so* love her!
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That's one pretty lady. :)
I saw the car at Bean's in Freeport, and then two days later at a parade in Lewiston for the hot air balloon festival.
MY cousin went to that!! OMG!
It's like...we're...connected! Like the allstate commercial!
:lol:
I took a ton of pictures at the parade. If she was standing near me in the center of the bridge span, she might be in some of the "crowd" shots. Crowd is in quotes because you can't call a group of 3 people a crowd.
Mary is beautiful, Pam.
Me, today, in Browns in Oxford.
I'll write it up later.
I was drinking a Havana Breeze (Havana Club Especial Rum, St Germain Elderflower liqueur,
melon, sugar and lime).
Not as nice as the Midori Iced Tea in Glasgow, but if you're buying then I'm drinking.
lookin' good sundae! and a nice cool beverage to beat the heat with!
93 w/high humidity, here.
Perhaps an ice-cold cocktail is in order...a tall Long Island Tea, maybe.
Captain Morgan makes a half-decent LIIT pre mixed. Serve with plenty of ice.
93 w/high humidity, here.
Perhaps an ice-cold cocktail is in order...a tall Long Island Tea, maybe.
Captain Morgan makes a half-decent LIIT pre mixed. Serve with plenty of ice.
Went to Oasis for the 'Redneck Tea'.
Nice and cold.
Limit two.
:drunk:
How's the trip going, Moar?
Vacation is over :(
Not right for now, but a couple of pics from the vacation:
Moar, you are so darn cute I could punch you! :)
OMG I second IM's motion, I think you're ADORABLY PUNCHABLE in these photos!!
Cuteness and cleavage, a formidable combination ;)
Mortay, are you doing the Pee Pee dance there in that first picture?
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Woooooooooooo
I'm a fan of the dress + boots when it's done properly... this looks quite proper to me :D
I would want that dress SO bad if it weren't for my goddamn shoulders. Damn jealous. Nice boots too.
I've moved to a tent in the woods (manuver ops). I'm holding up 5 fingers for Addie. Today is her birthday. Hell, she is 5 years old and I have never been to her birthday party. I did speak to her on the phone & she doesn't understand why I can't go to her Chucky Cheese party.
Right about a month ago. Last night of fencing with lil Pete before college. Tears later.
Awww. Bitter sweet times. And lovely picture. Your girl really is stunningly beautiful. Look at that smile.
My eldest niece went off to university up in Newcastle, yesterday. I know it hasn't quite sunk in yet with my bro and SiL that she's gone til December.
Gonna be hard for my bro. The two of them are such good friends. Best mates. Hard for Jen too, I know, but it's going to really hit Martin.
Bitter sweet is the word.
She is beautiful. I think dads with daughters are in a tough spot: you gotta let them grow up but they'll always be your little girl. And good job, griff dad. :)
Griff,
It is a sad and beautiful world.
Sad and beautiful.
Ohhhh...gorgeous, athletic, knows what a good man looks, sounds and acts like. Hearts will be broken, but not yours Griff. Your bruising will be painful but everyone emerges stronger. And just when you've fully recovered, she'll move back in. Don't ask me how I know this.
What a happy picture!
Awesome picture! Bittersweet indeed.
great pics, everyone
Moar - I LOVE that dark haircolor - it looks fab on you.
and hello HardWorking Sarge (if you were an action figure you'd be Hard Working Sarge in the vein of Bob the Builder)
and Griff - nice to see you! You're daughter is indeed beautiful - model beautiful even! I would kill for that nose.
Thanks everyone. It hit me all over again when that pic showed up in my email. I'm trying to prepare myself for life after youts... difficult though.
Your girl really is stunningly beautiful. Look at that smile.
And two more beautiful women at home. I'm glad you said that Dana, when I tell him he just thinks I'm a dirty old man.
Well, that maybe true, but I've got a good eye.;)
You are a dirty old man but everyone has their role. :) I remember a goofy pact a bunch of us made in high school to improve the Irish peasant stock out here by marrying up and moving back. A number of those involved married up, but few moved back... I have admittedly married out of my league, but it keeps me focused.
Went on a camping trip with my son's cub scout den at Sky Meadows state park in Virginia.
After spending the night in our little tent, and shlepping all our camping gear back to the car, we went for a hike through the park, including a stretch of the Appalachian Trail.
Only a couple more of these camping trips, and then he'll be a boy scout and I won't be allowed to join him.
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Griff - daughters grow up so quick it hurts. My oldest daughter turns 19 at the end of the month.
Glat - Looking good. I hope he stays active in Scouts. I got my Eagle in 1976. I'm still proud of it
I love these pics of dwellars and their kids. Just so lovely. :)
Not me, but decended from me....and not rfn, but today, at least. Disc golf at french creek park today. I suck at it, but I'm better than these two jokers.
Glatt- No way to get involved?
Went on a camping trip with my son's cub scout den at Sky Meadows state park in Virginia.
After spending the night in our little tent, and shlepping all our camping gear back to the car, we went for a hike through the park, including a stretch of the Appalachian Trail.
Only a couple more of these camping trips, and then he'll be a boy scout and I won't be allowed to join him.
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Oh, glatt.
Not true. I don't know how the do it back east, but out here, we (our troop) welcomes dads. Someone's got to drive. Someone's got to buy the stuff, etc. We have a boy-led troop, true, but they're not doing everything alone. It's not Lord of the Flies. Some of my trophy trips were with my sons on scout trips.
Blimey Jim. I still think of your bairns as kiddies. They must be teens by now.
Glatt - nice pic of the tie-dye top we saw being made!
He looks so tiny yet, but his genes predict a growth spurt in years to come.
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Oh, glatt.
Not true.
Hope you're right. I'm hearing otherwise, but maybe it's just the one dad/one boy ratio that's changing, and it will be fewer dads.
I know I can take on a leadership role and be included, but I don't want to be a leader. I'm a pack treasurer now, and that's already more than I want to do.
This camping trip was another really good one.
Monster and Jim, nice pics!
Confidence and sunshine, and three more Dwellar-babies growing up.
What a lovely family photo.
That is a lovely family photo.
And those seats look pretty comfortable. All padded and shit.
Photo of me taken by my Grandad's cousin's wife this afternoon.
Is 10:30 AM too early for a drink?
Lola - you are really looking good. Hmm, let me pour a shot of Jameson's and join you
this post made me drink the rest of the appletini i made last night and did not finish
This just made me envy the three of you.
Many great pics :)
Lola, you look supremely relaxed :P
Sundae, that's a lovely shot of you and DizCat.
All the dwellars and dwellarlings: you all look like you're having such fun.
And, yeah, I was slightly taken aback by Jim's youngsters. In my head they were still kiddies. Great shot though. There could be no doubt looking at them that they're siblings. Same for Monster and Beest's kids. All have same smiles :p
well shit, if the purdy girl is, i guess i'll pour myself some rum!
Trying to make us think she's left handed. ;)
Today was spent on moving Cheri and carving pumpkins at my dad's. Addie loves to dig the "guts" out of the pumpkins. She'll run her whole arm in. We're convinced she might grow up to be a proctoligist.
Looking good Sarge!
Here's my new user pic from my niece's wedding.... niece's wedding! This boy is getting O L D.
Pretty rakish for a mountain man, must be the sword fightin'. :haha:
Agreed!
You look great Griff!
Swords, bikes, or coffee instead of beer..?
Griff, you look great! I'm jealous, I'm sure not aging well
You look darn good whenever you're with Addie.
Swords, bikes, or coffee instead of beer..?
so, we have you rfn threads, dwellars names irl, the garden 2012, ... this is a mashup of all three.
I give you Griff, rfn, irl, from my garden. That's one good lookin happy tomato!
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She married into a bunch of Macedonians, the goats are safely away. ;)
She better behave, or face seven thousand
Macedonians in full battle array. :haha:
I can't tell you what a wonderful change this is from my recent stream of images.
thanks for the beautiful picture mama.
Oh Ali, what a beautiful picture.
That is awesome Ali! Save that one for posterity!
so precious and so peaceful
Just beautiful. Thanks for sharing, Ali.
Thanks guys. I thought it was lovely too. :)
hope you don't mind....
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little soft glow and cropping to make you look extra sleepy.
...and less wrinkly. ;)
Thanks Jim!
Cute, but I prefer the original :P
I was just sitting here thinking about undertoad, jimhelm, 3F and others. I thought I would post a pic for ya'll
...there just aren't words.
bra comes to my mind.... [a bro maybe? manssiere?]
Oh and what is that shaver thingy? NO NO :eek:
I'm looking for a special shade of nail polish. I've been humming, "Don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me" all afternoon.
Dude that should be your Resume Pic from mow on
Cute, but I prefer the original :P
Same here. :)
Sarge: Is that really you in the picture? I thought your chest hair is white. Honestly, I don't think that's you. The arm hair is different from previous pix.
I was just sitting here thinking about undertoad, jimhelm, 3F and others. I thought I would post a pic for ya'll
very happy to see no tent poling in the tutu region, sir.
pass the brain blease, pleach.
Same here. :)
Sarge: Is that really you in the picture? I thought your chest hair is white. Honestly, I don't think that's you. The arm hair is different from previous pix.
you're right. it is just a creepy photo i found on the internet. i have far more body hair and the torso is gray. plus, my boobs are't that big (yet). still, i thought it was funny
Hehe....and I thought you "dressed up" for us. :p. Honestly, I figured that wasn't you because your body is better than that. ;)
...there just aren't words.
Oh yes there are, "Thank god I wasn't eating." immediately springs to mind.
Happy Veteran's Day!! I'm playing with Cheri and making my own trails. 10 wheel drive is awesome
Nice ride. Is that one of those $50. Government surplus jeeps I used to read about in the back of magazines? Can you line me up with one? I'm looking for new digs.
Happy Veteran's Day and a big salute to you, Sarge!
Multi-fuel (runs on diesel, bio-diesel, waste motor oil, and gas). You can get them for $2,000 - 3,000. Right now, I have some old kerosene and used transmission fluid in it.
Orthodoc - TY ;)
3F I'd be glad to hook you up with info on the Government Auctions in your area or a dealer
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did my nails today. Shiny purple basecoat, black stripe down the center, purple topcoat. Love ‘em.
Lola! Look out! There's a 'gator in that canal!!!!!!!!!!1
How can every female Dwellar be so delicious?
Ibby, more feminine glasses would help make the statement you want.:thumb:
Me RF this afternoon, approx. 2,000 m above sea level in the mountains above Bishkek.
Sent by thought transference.
Wow. Bishkek is about 2.500 ft above sea level. 25 miles away is a peak at 15,000 ft.
Ibby, more feminine glasses would help make the statement you want.:thumb:
Disagree (my personal opinion). I think they suit you and are very "in". Too feminine can risk a hint of drag.
Also loving the hair (what I can see of it behind the great nails).
Lola - as ever - a beauty. Looks warm where you are.
Limey. Can you get bored with that coat soon, please. And hand it down to me. It's a piece of gorgeousness. And no fair in getting snow. Looks cold where you are, natch.
Yeah, but you'd still be in a light top and too hot :P
Sundae: It was and is still warm. At least it's not hot anymore.
Looking good, limey, glad you're getting a chance to something besides work.
Oh, that's right, you hired a driver. Hmm... he wouldn't happen to be a young body builder named Studly would he. ;)
It's not the heat, it's the humidity.
Disagree (my personal opinion). I think they suit you and are very "in".
Big Ray-Bans - even if mine are Chinese fakes - are definitely "in" for hipsters of any gender. i'm hipster enough to wear 'em.
i've gotten very positive feedback on them both from people whose pants I want in and from people whose pants they want me in, too. I'll take reviews of them likely to get me laid over reviews of them unlikely to get me laid
:p:
Don't discount the effects of a good décolletage
Lola - you are smokin' girl
Limey - Love that coat. Beautiful scenery & a beautiful woman...
lord limey! It be lookin' cooooooooooold!
Lola - you are smokin' girl
Limey - Love that coat. Beautiful scenery & a beautiful woman...
Ditto - It's great to see more of Limey, probably that's all of her she'd be willing to show anyway, considering the snow and what not...
re Lola "You may have given up cigarettes, but you haven't quit SMOKING!"
Gee, thanks, guys. :o
Now heading home, waiting for plane number three at Gatwick. I've been up for eighteen hours now, and still have a few to go before I get to a bed. Don't get home til tomorrow as I'm gonna miss the last boat ...
Sent by thought transference.
Caught a ledge on a sidewalk and stumbled while carrying a pan of roast pork to a party. While my knee took the weight of the fall, my head impacted the edge of a concrete stair.
First trip to the ER! 4 internal, 13 external stitches. Visual disturbance like a migraine aura, but no scans needed. I'm telling the office I broke up a bar fight.
The pork survived unscathed. If the Cuban food is good enough, I'll take a bullet to save it.
What's it gonna take, Kits, an eye?
Show us the bruise pictures next!
...that's gonna leave a mark. So, wait, you're on the porch with the food, you fall, and while the ambulance comes for you, the other party guests step outside just long enough to politely take the pork off your hands? I hope they saved you some, at least.
It was more like a small get together. My aunt came downstairs with a wad of paper towels expecting to have to clean up roast pork, only to have to mop up blood instead. At least we felt kinda guilty eating while Kitsune was at the ER?
After what he went through for that pork, it would have been an insult not to eat it.
Fortunately he didn't sacrifice as much as the pig. :haha:
Kitsune that is horrible!
At least you didn't try one of the Cellar's suggested
cure-alls on it.
Come home safe Limey.
(yes I have my eyes on your eye-popping coat - don't get it burned or bled on)
Friggin ow! Nice job on the pig though.
You had an excellent seamstress.
Aww Kit, you should have dabbed some Mercurochrome and taken a swig of Paregoric. No need to go to the ER for such an itty bitty scratch.
Seriously, that is going to give you one heck of a scar. How about a gator grabbed your head while you were rushing into the burning orphanage to rescue the pregnant nun??
Aww Kit, you should have dabbed some Mercurochrome and taken a swig of Paregoric. No need to go to the ER for such an itty bitty scratch.
Seriously, that is going to give you one heck of a scar. How about a gator grabbed your head while you were rushing into the burning orphanage to impregnate a nun??
Wait what?
I was making up a good story for him to go along with the scar.
Wait what?
How did the nun get pregnant?
She wasn't careful.
or
Do you know how to make a nun pregnant?
You fuck her.
I'll be here until Friday. Try the fish.
Aww Kit, you should have dabbed some Mercurochrome...
Was surprised to find there are a lot of people who really love that stuff and look for online sources to import the stuff. Must be magical.
How about a gator grabbed your head while you were rushing into the burning orphanage to rescue the pregnant nun??
I like this one. I also like that such a headline in the news for this state wouldn't make anyone blink.
I have a sympathy concussion just looking at that picture Kitsune. Fucking ouch. I hope your scar and your story (and your scans) justify many rounds bought for you. Good grief, take care of your head.
How about a gator grabbed your head while you were rushing into the burning orphanage to rescue the pregnant nun??
:lol: Perfect!! I love it. A fitting story for a scar that requires a story ...
Al Capone and Tony Montana parlayed it into a fortune, just don't forget to pay your taxes. :haha:
#vampirequeen
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comics (also i want to be Marceline when I grow up (in 1000 years))))[/SIZE]
Meh, who cares?
Hey, MTP! Good to see.
Just read your other post. I hope you're feeling better. :hug:
@Kitsune, how are you, how's your head?
@Ibby, you missed one.
@mtp, :lol2:
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Stitches came out last week. Doc said the cut'll take about a year to heal completely, and between its location and being "against the grain," he'll probably always have a scar.
Put a patch on the eye and say it was a duelling scar.
He should take up fencing, and spread the word it's a sabre wound.
"My name is Rex, and if you study with my eight-week program, you will learn a system of self-defense that I developed over two seasons of fighting in the Octagon. It's called Rex Kwon Do!"
"You're gonna learn to discipline your image. You think I got where I am today because I dress like Peter Pan here? Take a look at what I'm wearing, people. Do you think anybody wants a roundhouse kick to the face while I'm wearing these bad boys? Forget about it."
Me and Beans (and part of our tree) RFN
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that is one good looking tree!
Me and Beans (and part of our tree) RFN
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Great pic of the tree and your family tree.
I'm in a much brighter mood. I went to Addie's Christmas concert. Then we had a party in her classroom
that pic puts me in a good mood too!
That's you, Sarge? You look different. You look distinguish and handsome there. :)
Always a tone of surprise... :eyebrow:
Sarge-that's a great pic! Addie is soooo adorable!
getting out of self can be so good for you!!!
YAY!
and Choco--you and Beans --- so cute! You've got a great smile!
sorry about kitsune finger.
Always a tone of surprise... :eyebrow:
snort
That's you, Sarge? You look different. You look distinguish and handsome there. :)
That's sweet. I'm growing my beard over the holidays so I can play "Red-neck" Santa for some children in the apartment complex where Addie lives
This is me with Vano Kiboko, Member of Parliament of the Congo, from the Katanga Province.
Ha ha ha, same old NBN, telling the Congo rep exactly what he should do. :lol2:
I like the clothing-for-the-weather disparity.
Mrs. Joe and I in front of our tree in the living room. We just got back from a party.
:thumbsup:
You look regular.
She looks shiny!
tha's a handsome happy couple.
:)
That's sweet. I'm growing my beard over the holidays so I can play "Red-neck" Santa for some children in the apartment complex where Addie lives
Ripley told me yesterday that if I bleached my hair and beard white, I'd look EXACTLY like Santa.
I guess I need to get back to the gym....
Ripley, that kind of remark is not going to get you on the nice list!
Good morning! Sitting here by myself at the office. Nice to be alone sometimes. :D
You're very pretty.
In the office on a sunday? Arghhh.
I am already ticked that i have to work college goal sunday in february and our freaking graduation (my presence requird) is on a sunday night this year because of scheduling conflicts at the arena we borrow becuase of the state-wide conversion to semesters.
Isn't she? You are very attractive Lola, but I can no longer look at your food blog. I won't subject myself to that torment.
Great pick Lola. I know you're a paid highly trained professional, but that shirt makes you look like a candy-striper.
A very hot candy-striper.:blush:
So cute Lola.
Here is me Last FN.
With JB aka Captain Jack Harness aka Jack who has a huge chopper (or so the fairy said - we couldn't tell because he had pants on under his kilt.
Will give the usual thorough update in words and a few pictures. Have been promised some by the other two muskateers too.
I'm shattered after nearly 11 hours travelling, DanaC has some Carrotchops loving to catch up with and Limey is being charitable with carols, so they may be slow in arriving.
Ahhhh, look how John can't keep away from me.
Wow Sundae! You are looking positively radiant.
You look fab Sundae!
{he had pants on under his kilt.}
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Shawnee and Foot: You guys are too kind.
Great pick Lola. I know you're a paid highly trained professional, but that shirt makes you look like a candy-striper.
A very hot candy-striper.:blush:
Hehehhe....don't they wear red stripes? :p:
Ohh , A different Flavor to try !!!
Nice pic Sundae:)
@ Lola: you are sooooo pretty. Sooooo very pretty :)
Glad rags off, special Christmas t-shirt on.
Looking just as gorgeous as the other day, Sundae! X
Sent by thought transference.
wow Sundae! Your new regime is really paying off---you look great!
I shall join you.
Your skin even looks gorgeous (not that it didn't before but now it has a natch glow)
good for you!!!!!!!
Looking wonderful, Sundae! You're inspiring me to get on the elliptical.
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Saturday Night at the Dave Matthews Concert.
You so handsome! She lucky girl!
But come ON, man. Dave Matthews? Yuck.
btw-who is best-lucky girl?
That's Amanda.
And Dave is the man. you shut your *&$^% mouth.
I thought you left Amanda?
Or am I getting my dwellars mixed up?
And, oh, Dave sucks cocks in hell.
You guys all look great.
Tril, I'm going back on atkins after new years. Hopefully this time I wont fuck it all up by getting pregnant again, although that's not likely to happen since I told Daryl there's no more sex till he does something about contraception. I'm thinking maybe I'll get all hot and sexy looking and then kill him off, get my tubes tied and become a cougar.
Thoughts?
Lovely pic, chezzer!
You really suit that short hair y'know. And, why is it you appear to be aging backwards?Do you have a painting of yourself in the attic looking ragged?
I thought you left Amanda?
Or am I getting my dwellars mixed up?
And, oh, Dave sucks cocks in hell.
say that to my fish!
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yeah, you're all mixed up. I've been with Amanda for 14 months. After jinx, I was with Heather for 9 or 10... but she was the one who was bipolar and had the insane new boyfriend that called me and told me to get an AIDS test...and then later copped to lying about it.... yeah... he should have received his first issue of OUT! magazine (delivered to his work) this month.
yeah, Ali, I'm up for it. My son is a personal trainer and he says don't do Atkins but do S L O W carbs.
Imma try. My sis lost 25 lbs. and looks great and more comfy in her clothes. 25 is a lot----and makes a diff. in your overall health, too. She's just being more conscious of her food choices and staying away from her binge foods (pasta, etc) I used to have fantasies about losing 100 pounds....but I'd take 25 now.
Amanda is a very bonny lass.
yeah, you're all mixed up. I've been with Amanda for 14 months. After jinx, I was with Heather for 9 or 10... but she was the one who was bipolar and had the insane new boyfriend that called me and told me to get an AIDS test...and then later copped to lying about it.... yeah... he should have received his first issue of OUT! magazine (delivered to his work) this month.
Who had the cat?
That was amanda. Cat (Jasper) has been a good boy lately.
yeah, Ali, I'm up for it. My son is a personal trainer and he says don't do Atkins but do S L O W carbs.
Imma try. My sis lost 25 lbs. and looks great and more comfy in her clothes. 25 is a lot----and makes a diff. in your overall health, too. She's just being more conscious of her food choices and staying away from her binge foods (pasta, etc) I used to have fantasies about losing 100 pounds....but I'd take 25 now.
Well when I convert that to kg's it's only 12. I'm planning on losing at least 20kgs and then I'll be happy(ish). My plan is to be able to wear an AU size 12 comfortably. That's three dress sizes. Maybe 3.5.
So anyway, come the new year, I'll be ready to work my arse off (literally). I'm going to go back to that fitness site myfitnesspal.com I think it was. I assume my profile is still on there. So anyway, going to get moving and grooving and hopefully by the end of the year I'll be a lean, mean, fighting machine! (ok, forget the mean and the fighting, but keep the lean and the machine)
Dana: you always make me blush. *blushing* hihi...
And Sundae, she always looks pretty. :)
Took this picture of my new pin from my great-aunt. It's so retro-doctor-who costume piece. Anyway I liked the picture.
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I like it too. I see you like your glasses. :)
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