The First "Magician"

Spexxvet • Dec 12, 2011 11:30 am
Wouldn't it be neat if America had a position know as the "first magician". Just to set the standard. As it stands know we just have a free for all of Magic. If this were an actual job either elected by the people or appointed by the first lady, Doug Henning, maybe there would be less Divination failures.

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Lamplighter • Dec 12, 2011 1:00 pm
Penn and Teller would be the judges of all candidates.
Griff • Dec 12, 2011 6:03 pm
Nailed it.
sexobon • Dec 12, 2011 7:26 pm
The candidates would be referred to as Bullwinkles: "Hey, Rocky! Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat."
Lamplighter • Dec 12, 2011 8:27 pm
"But that trick never works!"
ZenGum • Dec 13, 2011 1:40 am
"Okay, watch me pull a hare out of my ass!"
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infinite monkey • Dec 13, 2011 9:40 am
Magicians are creepy.

Like mimes or ventriloquists.
Lamplighter • Dec 13, 2011 9:59 am
infinite monkey;779850 wrote:
Magicians are creepy.

Like mimes or ventriloquists.


Agreed... Mimes are sort of a silly fun, same for jugglers.
But ventriloquists are just deranged, same for sword-swallowers.
Sundae • Dec 13, 2011 11:43 am
Magicians are NOT creepy.
Not the very good ones anyway.

One of my personal heroes is Derren Brown. He can be unnerving, or sinister, but not creepy. Okay, he does collect taxidermy animals. And have a parrot (parrots are vile creatures). But he is intelligent, funny, ginger and self effacing. And exceptionally talented.

Seen him live twice, would do again.
infinite monkey • Dec 13, 2011 11:46 am
I think I don't like them because I'm not even remotely inclined to suspend disbelief and think it's real.

It is amazing coordination, at best.

I believe in ghosts and aliens, so if someone wants to mystify me then sawing yet another assistant in half isn't going to do it. Get me back to my home planet or take me to a haunted house.

Magicians ARE creepy. All quick hands and the obligatory dark penetrating gaze (I don't know what spice that is.) And a cape. ;)

Yawn.
Lamplighter • Dec 13, 2011 11:47 am
Sundae;779913 wrote:
Magicians are NOT creepy.
Not the very good ones anyway.

<snip> Okay, he does collect taxidery animals. And have a parrot (parrots are vile creatures). But he is intelligent, funny, ginger and self effacing. And exceptionally talented.

Seen him live twice, would do again.


:D
monster • Dec 13, 2011 11:54 am
Magicians are not entertaining to me. I would rather go grocery shopping than watch one.
Spexxvet • Dec 13, 2011 11:57 am
Sundae;779913 wrote:
Magicians are NOT creepy.
Not the very good ones anyway.

It's a trick!
Sundae • Dec 13, 2011 12:13 pm
I like Derren Brown because he obsfuscates.
He's pretty much convinced everyone that he uses psychology, NLP, face reading etc, when the vast majority of his tricks are standard magician fare. But that's cool, because you don't have to believe in magic when you watch him, you just assume it's the work of a master in another field.

He admits before his programmes that he uses a blend of magic, suggestion, psychology, misdirection and showmanship. But so many people want to believe he has real powers of mind control, when most of it is simply the last two.

Psychology is the new magic.

I am a great fan of prestidigitation and legerdemain.
It's a skill. It's not magic of course, but it is clever.
I'd rather watch a close-up magician than a juggler.