Those who desire power...

...don't deserve it. Who said this?

I dont know but i have a feeling the saying May come in handy SOON !!

I thought it was "Those who desire power must be kept from attaining it."

Still dunno who said it though.

Buddha

your electric company

sexobon;775032 wrote:

your electric company

Ha!

Once again Poetry has the Anwer:


Ozymandias -


I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
`My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away".

If you were to summarize Jefferson's thought you could get to that but, I don't think he actually said it. I found this one though: "An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens."

I saw it recently on the cookies!

It's a cookie! :cookiemonster:

I'm more awed by this cookie:

It's the raisins that make Post Raisin Bran so raisiny.

Indeed, indeed.

(I prefer Kellogs, but hey, that's just me.)

I said buddha last night while I was drinkin
But now that I'm sober ive been thinkin
Maybe I was wrong...was it Lincoln?

Tonight when I'm drinkin
I'll try to start thinkin
About who wrote that stinkin
Quote

Those who desire power...are doomed to repeat it?

Power is as power does?

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Flint [strike]said[/strike] posted it

Might have been Ben Franklin?

I like this:

It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.

David Brin (1950 - )

He was also really good with The Talking Heads.

If power were attainable to a righteous man and he were to remain righteous then yes he deserves power.

and a righteous woman?
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she, she

I replaced the pronouns as well, to go along with your point.

That was from one of the Teachings of Don Juan books.

Which one? Weren't there about 25 of them?

JBKlyde;775157 wrote:

If power were attainable to a righteous man ...

monster;775260 wrote:

and a righteous woman?

infinite monkey;775263 wrote:

she, she

I replaced the pronouns as well, to go along with your point.

There were two of them, it was a he and a he, and they called themselves brothers.

JBKlyde;775157 wrote:

If power were attainable to a righteous man and he were to remain righteous then yes he deserves power.

monster;775260 wrote:

and a righteous woman?

infinite monkey;775263 wrote:

she, she

I replaced the pronouns as well, to go along with your point.

sexobon;775271 wrote:

There were two of them, it was a he and a he, and they called themselves brothers.

:thepain2:

You've lost that lovin' feeling.

It was Plato who said, "He does not desire power is fit to hold it."

:eyebrow:

Look, man, I went to this massively self-wanking liberal arts honors program, yeah? And Plato was, like, our fucking mascot. I honestly cannot even remember which class made me read The Republic because I think it was all of them.

And hey--hey. Don't act like you couldn't quote the shit out of Buddha if that happened to be what Flint was asking about! Someone who lived with Tibetan monks doesn't have much of a leg to stand on, ya feel me?

It does sound like the sort of thing Plato would have said.

But this:

It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.

David Brin (1950 - )

See, USA, there's your problem, right there.

Who the hell would want to be president right now? Why would anyone sensible want that? Massively high pressure, have to work with any number of assholes, not terribly well paid, short term, and with a murder rate of around 10% one of the most dangerous legal jobs in the world.

No wonder the candidates are so crap.

Wait.

Foot lived with Tibetan monks?

ZenGum;775319 wrote:

It does sound like the sort of thing Plato would have said.

But this:


See, USA, there's your problem, right there.

Who the hell would want to be president right now? Why would anyone sensible want that? Massively high pressure, have to work with any number of assholes, not terribly well paid, short term, and with a murder rate of around 10% one of the most dangerous legal jobs in the world.

No wonder the candidates are so crap.

I think you're on to something here.

Brianna;775331 wrote:

Wait.

Foot lived with Tibetan monks?

That boy is an onion see. If he takes a deer he hasn't taken.

Brianna;775331 wrote:

Wait.

Foot lived with Tibetan monks?

Actually, Rinzai Zen monks if you must know.
And it's onion layers all the way down.

Killing is killing, deer, carrots, nothing on this planet lives except at the expense of another life. That's what makes earth a special kind of hell.
I try not to recognize an anthropocentric hierarchy.

Clodfobble;775305 wrote:

Look, man, I went to this massively self-wanking liberal arts honors program, yeah? And Plato was, like, our fucking mascot. I honestly cannot even remember which class made me read The Republic because I think it was all of them.

And hey--hey. Don't act like you couldn't quote the shit out of Buddha if that happened to be what Flint was asking about! Someone who lived with Tibetan monks doesn't have much of a leg to stand on, ya feel me?

That eyebrow was more to say "Can you make me impressed with you any more?"

footfootfoot;775408 wrote:

Actually, Rinzai Zen monks if you must know.
And it's onion layers all the way down.

Killing is killing, deer, carrots, nothing on this planet lives except at the expense of another life. That's what makes earth a special kind of hell.
I try not to recognize an anthropocentric hierarchy.

The only thing that can ever exist is our experience of right here/right now. The universe does not think of itself as the center, neither should we. Hmm..or perhaps because we think of ourselves as the center the universe does. Either way the universe cannot kill itself.

footfootfoot wrote:

That eyebrow was more to say "Can you make me impressed with you any more?"

I think the real question is, starting from where I am now, how fast can I make you totally digusted with me?

What movie was that? I have only this vague sense, a character who deliberately built up the love before proving what a bastard he could be, because he especially enjoyed crushing people's trust in their own judgment. And then his new challenge was to win them back anyway.

dangerous liasons?

Yes! The toying with Michelle Pfeiffer. That was exactly it.

Spexxvet;775093 wrote:

Flint [strike]said[/strike] posted it

I may have. But I will say this:

Power over yourself is the only power you can hope to acheive.
Power over yourself can never be fully acheived.
Therefore, power is an illusion.

So who fucking said it?

The American voter.

Clodfobble;775936 wrote:

What movie was that? I have only this vague sense, a character who deliberately built up the love before proving what a bastard he could be, because he especially enjoyed crushing people's trust in their own judgment. And then his new challenge was to win them back anyway.

The Biography of Newt Gingrich?

Brianna;775040 wrote:

Ozymandias -

One of my very favorite poems. Up there with Langston Hughes' "Mother to Son" and "Westron Wind" (possibly the earliest recorded bit of English).

If I said it, then I said it, and I'll say it again: Those who desire power don't deserve it.


On the other side of things, aspiring to serve, I read that the founder of the "Servant Leadership" movement got the idea from reading Herman Hesse!

Those who desire power should not have bought a prius.

George Carlin.