3D Frenzy!

Elspode • Jan 5, 2003 6:20 pm
I'm sure I'm probably the last person in the world to catch on to this, but there is a lot of very, very cool 3D stuff online for the person with a cheap pair of 3D glasses. If you have a pair of these simple red/blue glasses, you must immediately go to this site and check out the geometric anaglyphs...you will not be sorry.

http://dogfeathers.com/3d/

And, since I'm thick-headed and not terribly considerate of others, I'm posting another home-brewed 3D picture, this time, of the scene from my Pleasant Valley Sunday-esque typical suburban neighborhood front porch, looking across my typical two cars and a camper driveway for your consumption. You'll need to have blue on the left and red on the right for this...somehow, I got the damn sides reversed when I made it...

PS...if you don't have 3D glasses, go get some asap, not for my paltry homemade dabblings, but for the incredibly groovy stuff on the above web site. If they'd had things like this back in the 70's when I was known to dabble in hallucinogenics, I would have never left my house.
slang • Jan 5, 2003 7:19 pm
Is there a house in your neighborhood that isn't light blue?
wolf • Jan 5, 2003 7:23 pm
That is entirely cool! Luckily my copy of The Atomic Bomb Movie was right next to the computer and I didn't have to search far for 3-D glasses!
Elspode • Jan 5, 2003 7:30 pm
Originally posted by slang
Is there a house in your neighborhood that isn't light blue?


Yeah, there's a few...but not many. The one across the street on the left is actually a light brown, but color anaglyphs are a compromise at best in terms of actual color. Also, I'm going to have to lay my hands on a much better digital camera to get the most out of this 3D thing, I think. Still, it is an amazing amount of fun to concoct a subject and produce the pic. I'm even looking at LCD shutter glasses for the purpose of moving into 3D video (!) and/or interlaced 3D, which give a much more realistic 3D.

I've always loved this sort of thing. I have friends with a huge stereoptican card collection, and I had piles of Viewmaster stuff as a kid. I don't know why I haven't done this before as I've always known it could be done on a home computer with great ease.
Elspode • Jan 5, 2003 7:33 pm
Another *very* nice anaglyph site. Museum quality B/W 3D. In fact, I think the pictures are taken *of* a museum.

http://digitalstudio.ucr.edu/projects/anaglyphs/default.html
slang • Jan 5, 2003 7:59 pm
I'm sorry Ep, I thought the 3d thing was a joke because your camera was malfunctioning.

"I'm posting another home-brewed 3D picture"
Elspode • Jan 5, 2003 8:35 pm
Originally posted by slang
I'm sorry Ep, I thought the 3d thing was a joke because your camera was malfunctioning.


No...my photography is a joke, but the 3D thing is for real...you just have to have the glasses to see it. The camera is working as well as it works, I'm afraid. I wouldn't be irritating enough to post a digital photo of my driveway without having *some* added value, such as 3D...
Elspode • Feb 12, 2004 1:17 am
I imagine no one here will care much besides SteveDallas, but I thought I'd share my Valentine's gift with ya'll.

Tower Stereo Camera, Gottingen-Westar 35 mm f3.5 dual lenses, shutter speeds from B to 300, manual focus, using standard 35 mm film cassettes. Got it for a great price because the guy who was selling it thought it didn't work. Seems it won't cock and fire properly...unless you have film in it to keep tension on the film advance sprocket, probably by design. I haven't put film in it yet, but I was able to keep the sprocket tensioned by hand, and voila! She is a fire just fine. High-tech circa 1956, the year of my birth.

Expect a new deluge of homemade anaglyphs soon.
lumberjim • Feb 12, 2004 1:25 am
cool...where do you put the quarter in?


...oh that's right..1956....where do you put the nickel, then?
SteveDallas • Feb 13, 2004 11:08 am
Excellent!!! Good job...can't wait to see the results. I still have 3 rolls of film hangin in my bedroom awaiting their mounts. (I don't do anaglyphs.. I can't stand the color cast.)
dar512 • Feb 13, 2004 12:27 pm
I've got a buddy who is really into this stuff. He's in some kind of club where they share their best shots once a month. I'll try to get the info.
SteveDallas • Feb 13, 2004 3:39 pm
Yeah, there are some where they just mail an album around with one shot from each group member. When you're done with the album, you take out your old shot and put in a new one, so every time you get it, there's a completely new set.

There's a lot of that happening via the Internet now, but I haven't contributed much because I'm too lazy to digitize the stuff.
Elspode • Feb 13, 2004 3:55 pm
Originally posted by SteveDallas
Excellent!!! Good job...can't wait to see the results. I still have 3 rolls of film hangin in my bedroom awaiting their mounts. (I don't do anaglyphs.. I can't stand the color cast.)


A: What do you use for a viewer?
B: Is there a simple procedure for doing the mounting?
C: The ease of making anaglyphs compensates for A and B... ;)
SteveDallas • Feb 13, 2004 6:00 pm
Originally posted by Elspode


A: What do you use for a viewer?

I have a Kodaslide I and a Realist "red button" model, both manufactured during the 1950s.

B: Is there a simple procedure for doing the mounting?

Well much depends on the definition of the term "simple", but Rocky Mountain Memories makes slip-in mounts that are relatively inexpensive and allow for fast and simple mounting. I can take an uncut strip of film back from processing and have the 28 or 29 stereo pairs cut out and mounted in about 45 minutes.

C: The ease of making anaglyphs compensates for A and B... ;)

The design of a stereo film camera places some constraints on the pictures that make it hard to screw up the mounting. For example, unless you have some really unique mechanical malfunctions, you can assume that both sides of the pair are parallel with each other. Once you start digitizing the images, you have the opportunity to introduce all kinds of problems like having one side slightly higher than the other, having one or both sides rotated slightly from perfectly parallel alignment, having inconsistent color balance between the sides, etc. At this point, mounting the film is faster for me. And besides, unless you have really high end equipment (which I don't), it's really hard to match the image quality of slide film on a scan.
Happy Monkey • Feb 13, 2004 8:16 pm
Hee's one I did in POV-Ray.
wolf • Feb 13, 2004 8:44 pm
You don't sleep, do you...
Happy Monkey • Feb 13, 2004 8:58 pm
Not as much as I ought to...
Elspode • Feb 14, 2004 2:58 am
Originally posted by SteveDallas

The design of a stereo film camera places some constraints on the pictures that make it hard to screw up the mounting. For example, unless you have some really unique mechanical malfunctions, you can assume that both sides of the pair are parallel with each other. Once you start digitizing the images, you have the opportunity to introduce all kinds of problems like having one side slightly higher than the other, having one or both sides rotated slightly from perfectly parallel alignment, having inconsistent color balance between the sides, etc. At this point, mounting the film is faster for me. And besides, unless you have really high end equipment (which I don't), it's really hard to match the image quality of slide film on a scan.


I can't argue with that. What I would really like is a matched pair of digital cameras wired to fire in sync.
SteveDallas • Feb 14, 2004 8:33 am
Yeah.... one day.... a guy on the photo-3d list has started to sell a setup. Still too pricy for me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2986264926&category=31388
dar512 • Feb 17, 2004 11:58 am
If you're interested, Els, here's the site my buddy exchanges with: APEC.

Some nice anaglyph stuff to look at there too.
SteveDallas • Feb 17, 2004 1:20 pm
I bit the bullet and ordered LCD shutter glasses last night. I'm going to make a more concerted effort to develop better techniques for digitizing my stuff.
Beestie • Feb 18, 2004 11:17 am
I just found these pics today whilst poking around on Space.com and thought this might be a good thread to put them in...

I don't have a pair of 3d glasses - any idea where I can find one? Spencers or somewhere??

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Elspode • Feb 18, 2004 1:24 pm
Rainbow Symphony ...

Service over and above the call of duty (they sent me the wrong glasses - red and blue were reversed, two pairs, so they let me keep those, and sent me the right ones...twice! So, now I have six pairs of red/blue glasses).

I tried to do the right thing and send the extras back, but they wouldn't have any of it. Great communication, reasonable prices, nice glasses. Go for it. My highest recommendation.
SteveDallas • Feb 18, 2004 2:00 pm
More astronomical 3d..

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~aq6a-ink/indexusa.htm
Elspode • Feb 18, 2004 11:11 pm
Thanks for the groovy 3D links, guys. I never get tired of this. There sure is a wide disparity in quality of 3D image, though...
Elspode • Mar 1, 2004 1:21 pm
So, my wife and I went to the Ozarks over the weekend to visit her hillbilly parents (okay, her folks are relatively sophisticated, but she's first generation out of the hills despite this fact). We took a day trip over to Ha Ha Tonka State Park, an amazing example of limestone karst geology and home of a ruined mansion, dubbed the Ha Ha Tonka Castle, a formerly magnificent structure and its supporting structures constructed from native stone and destroyed in a fire about 80 years ago.

We did some Geocaching, and naturally I took my new stereographic camera, because this would be an awesome place to do some 3d shots. I shot up a whole roll...wonderful, wonderful views and architectural photos...but when I got the camera back to her folks' place, *I couldn't figure out how to rewind the film* in this 50 year old camera.

I ended up destroying the roll. Sob. However, after getting back to civilization, I managed to use the 'Net to figure out how to rewind the film. I still feel incredibly frigging stupid, though.
Elspode • Oct 11, 2005 12:09 am
Getting film processed and scanned for this thing is a total pain in the ass...then there's the whole "let's guess at exposure" thing. All this to say that I don't get a lot of useable photos out of my 3D camera, and the ones I do get aren't real great.

I did like the way this one turned out, though. A good friend of mine just a little over a year ago. The child which eventually ventured forth from this classic bulge shares my birthday!

Second pic is someone much stronger than I throwing a rock over a crossbar. Note blur above his head, which is said rock.

As usual, left eye red, right eye blue.
Elspode • Oct 11, 2005 12:11 am
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Happy Monkey • Oct 11, 2005 12:43 am
Very cool. The second one really shows off the effect, with the poles.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 11, 2005 1:53 am
Good job, Els. The rock looks like it'll drop straight on their head. :worried:
Elspode • Feb 15, 2007 7:51 pm
Dust off your 3D glasses, folks. This is way cool.

Pic from the newest Mars orbiter, carrying the highest resolution telescope ever put in orbit around the red planet.
Happy Monkey • Mar 10, 2007 7:40 pm
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Elspode • Mar 10, 2007 8:33 pm
Did you make both the object *and* the anaglyph? If so, I bow to your brilliance!
Happy Monkey • Mar 10, 2007 9:17 pm
I got a bit frustrated trying to photograph it, as I always seemed to lose some of the shape, so I found an anaglyph GIMP tutorial, and voila!
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 11, 2007 4:10 am
Cool, well done, HM.

I'd missed Elspodes link, in the last post,till now, that's amazing.

I've got two pair of red and blue glasses, one has red on the left and the other is reversed.
There's four pair of red and cyan, all with red on the right (looking through), which is backwards for these pics.
I also have one pair with two clear lenses. They're 3-D Noggle Goggles, from Post cereals and Nickelodeon. Needless to say, they don't work with these pics either.:rolleyes:
Happy Monkey • Mar 25, 2007 10:27 am
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Happy Monkey • Apr 21, 2007 2:08 pm
xoxoxoBruce;322182 wrote:
I've got two pair of red and blue glasses, one has red on the left and the other is reversed.
There's four pair of red and cyan, all with red on the right (looking through), which is backwards for these pics.
Yeah, these are red(L) cyan(R). I've got glasses that go either way, but this was the default for the software I'm using.

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Elspode • May 14, 2007 1:18 am
You must get your 3D glasses out, put them on, and go here.

I would have posted a couple of these 3D pics, but downsizing and compressing them for posting on The Cellar simple cannot do them justice. You must see the stills in their full 3D .tif glories. Oh...and watch the movies, too.

If you thought SOHO was amazing, this is gonna give you wood (or make you wet, depending upon your gender).

The animations almost make it scary to realize what a large and vigorously flaming ball of gas we have so nearby. And no, I am *not* talking about George W. Bush.
Happy Monkey • May 14, 2007 11:04 am
Looks cool! I'll check those out when I get home.

One of my pairs of glasses actually came with a poster of the Sun that I got from my sister. I think it was from Stereo.
Happy Monkey • May 19, 2007 11:42 pm
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xoxoxoBruce • Jun 7, 2007 4:41 pm
ANAGLYPHS, lots and lots of them. England, Holland, France, Belgium and Italy. Tips on making them too.
Elspode • Oct 11, 2007 11:01 pm
HM, I just stumbled back across this thread, and realized I hadn't seen the woodsy pics. *How* in hell did you do those, exactly? They are absolutely *awesome*.

Pray tell? Don't leave anything out... ;-)
Happy Monkey • Oct 13, 2007 3:45 pm
Thanks!

Well, first, green works really well, so that helps.

I went ahead and bought a second camera and made a rig. I take two pics at once:

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And use this software to align them.

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I usually use auto align, but sometimes manual aligning works better.
richlevy • Oct 13, 2007 7:58 pm
I'm already looking forward to the Dwellar 3D NSFW pics thread. It just so happens I have two slightly different pairs of 3D glasses, red/cyan and red/blue.

The red/blue pair came with this book (NSFW maybe)
Elspode • Oct 14, 2007 7:17 pm
I can't tell from the pic, HM. How do you get them to fire in sync?
Happy Monkey • Oct 15, 2007 8:28 am
I just click the buttons (or in that case, the timers) at the same time. If I had cameras with remote shutter buttons, I might try splicing them together, but my cameras aren't that clever. I'm not going to be taking any action shots with this method.
BigV • Oct 24, 2007 5:37 am
Happy Monkey;394695 wrote:
Thanks!

Well, first, green works really well, so that helps.

I went ahead and bought a second camera and made a rig. I take two pics at once:

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And use this software to align them.

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I usually use auto align, but sometimes manual aligning works better.


top set is amenable to magic eye techniques. had to move head closer to monitor before I got a strained eyeball ligament.
Happy Monkey • Oct 24, 2007 12:24 pm
Heh, yeah. I hadn't tried that.
LabRat • Oct 24, 2007 12:43 pm
We use 3D in some of our work, however it's red/green. Our confocal microscope's software will automatically make stereo images for you if you have stacks of images. I'd post an image or 2 that I've taken if anyone has red/green glasses.

HM, those woodsy ones are awesome. Totally makes me want to go for a run, those are my favorite types of places to go.