Confession Time
I have been considering doing this for a while and now seems as good a time as any. I know that a few of you (maybe more than a few) know my "dark" secret.
Yes, in another lifetime I was a member of the Cellar under the name "Marichiko." I got banned and, for the most part, I deserved it. This was what? Seven years ago? I forget.
I will only say this much about Marichiko. It is true that shortly before she (I) joined the Cellar, I suffered a prolonged episode of anoxia (lack of oxygen) due to carbon monoxide poisoning which did adversely effect my thinking and my emotions. I was angry often; I was paranoid a lot; and I was always afraid. This combo did not make for very wonderful posts here on the Cellar. I was pretty crazy at times and struck out against a lot of people. While the reasons for this were mostly organic, I take full responsibility for my actions and I apologize to all here.
Some time after Marichiko got banned from this site, I began to get competent medical help. I also began to get help from the system I had raged against so much. I am working on qualifying for rehab services and I even have been able to go back to work on a limited level.
Now, I could hardly come back as Marichiko. I had to come back under a different user name and hopefully prove that I am not the provocative, semi-hysterical person I once was. SamIam has been around for over 4 years and has made over 2,000 posts. I have engaged in no major controversies that I can think of, other than exhanging barbs with UG and Merc.
I enjoy the Cellar. There are many thoughtful, funny people who post stuff that is often amusing or enlightening or both. I would like to stay on. However, I don't want to intrude where people don't want me.
I apologize for coming back under a different user name, just as I apologize for my actions as Marichiko. I leave my fate here up to you Dwellers.
Oh, and PS: I did not see this thread until I had already written this post.
http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=26083 Really. ;)
Not trying to get involved in something I know nothing about, but why did you wait 4 years/2,000 posts to come clean? Why now?
Sam, who cares? What I mean is...I know you NOW. I like you. I wasn't here for any of that stuff so it's none of my business anyway (yeah, admittedly it was good for a chuckle when you were just a 'name') and I suppose that's something other people who know nothing about it should be thinking too.
I'd like to see more confessions, because it's obvious so many are not coming clean. (ETA) Who cares who you are, if you're honest? That is admirable, for you to want to let people know, but I think it will only matter to either 1) someone who had a real issue with mari, or 2) someone who likes drama.
I don't care why it took you 4 years/5 billion thousand posts. OK?
Sam You Am, You Am Cool, in my book. Real, at least...which is so much more than so many here can say (and 'say' they will...absolutely 'nothing'!)
But I hope you feel better about it. Me? High Five me kiddo. (I can call you kiddo because we're BOTH so old.) ;)
I already said I wasn't trying to stick my nose in something I know nothing about. All I did was ask a simple question. If she didn't expect any questions or comments I'm sure she wouldn't have made the thread. I didn't mean any harm and I hope she didn't take it that way.
Wow Sam, from what I've heard about Marichiko, I would say you had them all fooled. Marichiko was set up to be the ultimate way to describe a crazy poster.
Congratulations on your rehabilitation. I think its great that you came back and proved yourself.
Sam, let the past remain there. I appreciate you coming clean though.
I joined the cellar right before Mari (treating like a different poster) got banned so I really don't know ALL the history.
You are who you are now and I think you are a benefit and an important contributor to teh Cellar.
Good for you on getting better. Your punishment is to post more :)
Thank you to all who have replied so far. You have been most kind.
@BrilliantDisguise - As I mentioned in the OP, I felt the need to establish a consistent track record as a "non-crazy" person. A few months just wasn't going to get it. While, I don't feel I was especially hurting the vast scheme of things as SamIam, I had started to get PM's from certain people who suspected who I really was. At that point, I figured, why lie? The truth is usually better.
hey, I bet that's a load off, huh?
Glad you're here. I'm sorry about how I acted way back when too. wanna make out?
Well, I was fooled. I had no idea Sam was Mari.
We have had a few people kicked out of the Cellar or chased out of the Cellar who have come back and tried to fit in again. Usually they don't succeed because the old personality inevitably comes through.
It's pretty clear that Sam/Mari has pulled it off. I'd like to continue thinking of Sam as Sam, because Mari was a loon.
Actually, she has posted pictures of herself under both names; so, she wasn't exactly incognito. She simply avoided having to rehash her story for every newb by waiting on the announcement until she felt she had sufficiently developed a favorable history here. It was a judgment call.
Well, it's pretty obvious in hindsight. But I had no idea.
OK, so now I want to know who else needs to confess here?:ninja:
Well, I was fooled. I had no idea Sam was Mari.
We have had a few people kicked out of the Cellar or chased out of the Cellar who have come back and tried to fit in again. Usually they don't succeed because the old personality inevitably comes through.
It's pretty clear that Sam/Mari has pulled it off. I'd like to continue thinking of Sam as Sam, because Mari was a loon.
Sam is Sam, Mari was Mari.
I should keep that "loon" comment to myself. Sorry!
I like you, Sam.
I should keep that "loon" comment to myself. Sorry!
I like you, Sam.
Well, thank you Glatt. And you can call Mari a loon if you want, because she often was. I like being Sam, myself. She may have her problems, but she (generally) doesn't blame the world for them. Need I say that its very empowering to take responsibility for your own life?
@ Jim, sure I'll make up with even you. For now... :hugnkiss: LOL!
Sam is Sam, Mari was Mari.
Appreciate that. Mari is buried somewhere in the Cellar graveyard of the b(d)anned. Let her stay there.
@ Jim, sure I'll make up with even you. For now... :hugnkiss: LOL!
and then maybe we can get into a fight later... and then... some more make up sex?
"We don't have to name names, or point fingers, or...name names..."
--Elaine Benes
I think this thread is grand, Sam. :)
and then maybe we can get into a fight later... and then... some more make up sex?
jim, I know you like make-up sex, but people would still love you even if you didn't get all dolled up. Put away the lipstick, the rouge, the mascara...be yourself and the good sex will follow suit. :lol:
Well somebody figured this out faster than I did, and then they mentioned it and after a while it got simple to put the pieces together.
The only thing I find hard to trust is that changing your personality to continue to interact with the group would be exactly what the semi-sociopathic Chicko would do. But she wouldn't have the skills to do it too well, which says that your cognitive skills post-accident have improved. Chicko's various lies were easy to spot -- well, for some people -- other people required video demonstration of their impossibility :lol:
You must now come clean and admit, you put that staple in that dude's mailbox lock.
OK, I'll confess. I am actually Peter2005. I'm sorry I didn't tell you earlier.
Who are YOU? (By YOU I mean all y'all, who y'all?)
No, really, who? You can't hide your lyin' eyes, and your simper, well, it's a thin disguise.
:lol2:
;)
I'm radar and rkzenrage ;)
I liked Mari and I like Sam.
I'll jump on Sam's confessional and will confess, as many of you already know, I only have the ordinary number of feet. Just two.
Fine. I'll go next: there really isn't an infinite number of me (thank FSM) and I'm almost hairless.
Welllll...I'm really Pico and Pico is really Me.
Pico is elite! (Ba DUM DUM!)
:)
I, for one, welcome our new Pico overlord.
And haggis @ glatt!
I didn't know until just yesterday that Mari was Sam. There was a very, very small inkling somewhere in the back of my mind about how weird it was that Sam is from Colorado...but Sam is so different from mari that I didn't really patch it together.
I like Sam. I believe people are really capable of change - that change, real change, is difficult and takes courage and that mari has indeed changed and is better for it.
good for you, Sam.
I'll confess:
jimhelm is really Batman.
I'm radar and rkzenrage ;)
I freakin' KNEW IT. I did. I wrote it down somewhere, I'll prove it.
Where is it? Where is it? Hey, I'll mail it to you when I find it, ok? :p:
sometimes I miss crazy. Like rkzenrage crazy. Remember how he got, like, an 890 on the IQ test?
Those were the days...
My friend was telling me that her brother got a pig one time (a real oinky pig, not just a mean name for someone) and kept telling the story over and over at a party as he got drunker and drunker and by the end of the night he had about 3000 pigs and a giant farm.
Well somebody figured this out faster than I did, and then they mentioned it and after a while it got simple to put the pieces together.
The only thing I find hard to trust is that changing your personality to continue to interact with the group would be exactly what the semi-sociopathic Chicko would do. But she wouldn't have the skills to do it too well, which says that your cognitive skills post-accident have improved. Chicko's various lies were easy to spot -- well, for some people -- other people required video demonstration of their impossibility :lol:
You must now come clean and admit, you put that staple in that dude's mailbox lock.
Your comments are duly noted. I refuse to any longer waste my time defending Mari. You are correct about the mailbox.
I'm actually one of Jim's sock puppets.
"Woof!"
W-O-O-F-!
:eyebrow:
Pico resembles that remark.
I'm not sorry about ur mailbox
you have to admit ... that was a funny video.
I have another confession. I am not actually James D'Alphonse.
You are correct about the mailbox.
Thank you Sam! :D End of inquisition, and what a relief!
I have another confession. I am not actually James D'Alphonse.
OK that I don't believe.
The truth about staple guns:
STAPLE GUNOK, how about from now on no one else changes names? At least not until I have everyone down.:D You all are making me confused with all these different usernames. :unsure:
I think there are only one or two people in this thread, besides me, who haven't changed their name at some point. But all you have to do is know everyone's current name, and you're all set.
I have a confession:
I shot J.R. Ewing.
I thought that was all a dream?
I think I heard Dallas is coming back.
I would like all of you to say 10 Hail Marys and 10 Our Fathers, and go in peace to love and serve the Lawd.
Well it's all a bit weird. My first reaction is to feel a bit deceived but then I thought about how we're all someone else. Very few of us use our real names, and I'm pretty sure SamIam is not Sam's real name and nor was Marichiko, so I suppose it doesn't really matter.
Brilliant piece of work sucking everyone in though. lol
I got here right on the tail end of Mari being banned, and to be honest, I felt sorry for her because it just seemed to me like everyone was ganging up on her. Not too long after that, I said something that pissed someone off and had to deal with fallout from the same group of people who didn't seem to like Mari. I wonder sometimes why I stayed, but these days I'm glad I did. There are some awesome people here, and I've always found this a good place to let off steam about issues I'm better off not sharing with my nearest and dearest.
Now Sam, I just have to ask, are you sure you're not Cicero too? ;)
Oh, and why does all the interesting stuff happen when I'm sleeping!? lol
I thought this was an open secret that everyone knew but no one mentioned.
My confession: I am Spartacus.
Fuck you, Spaniard, I AM SPARTACUS!
I must wander around this place with a freaking bag on my head or something. It never even occurred to me.
Someone please tell me I'm not the only one!
I thought this was an open secret that everyone knew but no one mentioned.
This. well not everyone, but most of the regulars....
I knew 'cause I stumbled into the chat room one time. But I never knew mari and she got banned before I got a chance to. I say we ban SamIam and bring mari back. let's wake up in the shower and find that SamIam was all a dream..... ;)
Oh, and I'm xoxoxoBruce. But I don't use that handle much any more because my crazy ex's lawyer keeps joining the board. latest incarnation is Someone Sellars :rolleyes:
I'll jump on Sam's confessional and will confess, as many of you already know, I only have the ordinary number of feet. Just two.
Noooooo. I am so disillusioned. I never... What's next? The RNC really
doesn't have a heart?
I'm glad things are better for you, Sam.
I'm actually one of Jim's sock puppets.
I'm actually one of Jim's socks. You might want to pick up some odor eaters, there, big guy.
Oh, and why does all the interesting stuff happen when I'm sleeping!? lol
Because you live in upside-down land?
Mmmm...something like that Pete. ;)
Fuck you, Spaniard, I AM SPARTACUS!
Not as fun with just us two...
the spartacus part I mean. two is just fine for fucking, spaniard or no. not that there's anything wrong with that.
I liked Mari and I like Sam.
I'll jump on Sam's confessional and will confess, as many of you already know, I only have the ordinary number of feet. Just two.
And to think I have been having dreams about your 3 feet of.... oh well never mind..
Sam I was not here for Mari so ...
I will like you when its hot
I will also like you when its not
[COLOR="White"]F it I'm not Dr Suess[/COLOR] ;)
Look ladies.
he has two feet, but ... three legs, wink wink. third one's kind of a clubfoot, so to speak.
I thought this was an open secret that everyone knew but no one mentioned.
This. well not everyone, but most of the regulars....
Yeah, I knew too, for I can't remember how long. When I first figured it out I was irritated, but then I realized I was only irritated because I'd been fooled for so long, which inherently meant that Sam was successfully integrating this go-round, so it shouldn't be an issue. Happy coming out party, Sam! ;)
I must wander around this place with a freaking bag on my head or something. It never even occurred to me.
Someone please tell me I'm not the only one!
You're not the only one. I had no idea either :blush:
You're not the only one. I had no idea either :blush:
Nor me.
I have a hard time keeping everyone straight unless they post a lot or have some distinguishing characteristic. Nirvana is chihuahua lady in my mind. But I tend to mix up Lamplighter and Perry Winkle. I don't know why. My mind is a mystery, even to me. The same with Glatt and Griff (names too similar maybe) and foot^3 and lookout123.
I know Tony is against avatars, but I'm a very visual person and it would help keep people straight - especially if everyone used a head shot.
Nor me.
I have a hard time keeping everyone straight unless they post a lot or have some distinguishing characteristic. Nirvana is chihuahua lady in my mind. But I tend to mix up Lamplighter and Perry Winkle. I don't know why. My mind is a mystery, even to me. The same with Glatt and Griff (names too similar maybe) and foot^3 and lookout123.
I know Tony is against avatars, but I'm a very visual person and it would help keep people straight - especially if everyone used a head shot.
No avatars here, huh? I think it helps as well.
You're not the only one. I had no idea either :blush:
Nor I.
As far as I'm concerned, they're two different people.
Now Sam, I just have to ask, are you sure you're not Cicero too? ;)
No, I could not imitate Cicero even if I wanted to - and I don't. She is 30 years younger than me, and she is absolutely unique onto herself. I used to call Cicero "my little tiger" because we used to have some real spats, but we always got over them - eventually.
I miss her lots :( and I hope she is getting the treatment she needs and will be back soon.
As I said before, I miss her too. There's no one quite like her.
I hope she can come back too.
I'm glad this was such a non event. ferreals ferreal.
Jim, I have to say that I really think you've come a long way. I hope that doesn't come off as patronising because that's not how I mean it.
I like the new Jim.
Ali, Limey - I had no idea either.
But then I don't think of that sort of thing really. I tend to take posters at face value.
I was here while Mari was, although not for as long as others.
She welcomed me when I first came and I didn't have any personal issues with her.
It was right for her to go when she did, because things were becoming untenable.
However I feel I have really connected with you, Sam.
I know more about you in general terms and you have been both supportive to me and positive about your own situation.
You've been honest in every other way, and let's face it, four years behind the curtain shows commitment. I'd probably have wanted to jump out and shout "BOO" long before now.
Hey there new old-timer.
This thread, right here, is why I like Teh Cellar ...
Jim, I have to say that I really think you've come a long way. I hope that doesn't come off as patronising because that's not how I mean it.
I like the new Jim.
you still want me
;)
I would like to add that I think Jim has come a long way, also. He's proof that a person can take a look around, see what he needs to do to improve and then actually carry those improvements out. Way to go LJ - er JimHelm! :cheerldr:
He has. He's got his own cigarette now, baby.
Not as fun with just us two...
the spartacus part I mean. two is just fine for fucking, spaniard or no. not that there's anything wrong with that.
Should we send for some Trojans?
Mari? No shit.
Never would have guessed. Completely clueless. Low flying airplane clueless.
And no avatars. They don't help. Just as soon as you get used to one, they get changed, and then there are all of those damned epileptic fit causing flashing ones, and ... it's just not good. We're not that kind of a forum. Encourages the wrong sort of nonthinking people that barely write in chatspeak.
Said she with the little wolf picture ... ;)
It's an emoticon, not an avatar, and don't you forget it.
No avatars is the awesome. People can always put something on their profile. Back during a, um....(shhhhhhh) certain s-a-f-a-r-i time I remember how horribly annoying their site was. Ugh. You could barely read the comments through all the avatars and signatures and whatever else they had going on. Seizures is right! It was like Mary Hart's voice over there.
you still want me
;)
Yeah baby!
And no avatars. They don't help. Just as soon as you get used to one, they get changed, and then there are all of those damned epileptic fit causing flashing ones, and ... it's just not good. We're not that kind of a forum. Encourages the wrong sort of nonthinking people that barely write in chatspeak.
Banning gifs would eliminate the flashing ones. If you really wanted to be strict, you could only allow head and shoulder shots.
I know they would change from time to time, but I still think it would help me keep people straight.
we could put it to a vote
OH thank God! lol
I was clueless, too.
i like voting!
I vote for the vote!
I'm already getting Vote NO on Issue 1 pamphlets in the mail!
Banning gifs would eliminate the flashing ones. If you really wanted to be strict, you could only allow head and shoulder shots.
I know they would change from time to time, but I still think it would help me keep people straight.
I agree with this. I don't see how avatars encourages the wrong sort of non-thinking people. Avatars show individuality and it also dresses the board up a little so it doesn't look so boring. I've seen many forums over my years on the internet and this is one of the very few that doesn't allow them.
Of course this is just my opinion and I'm sure you're all thinking I should just shut the fuck up since I'm the newbie.
If you want to put your pic up, you put it in your profile. If someone wants to see your pic, they look at your profile.
Because the profiles are there, I really don't see the point in 'avatars.'
Do we really need to tackify the place, like so many 'tattoos' (so we can express our individuality like everyone else?)
Profiles, people. Profiles.
Besides, I don't want to look at some of your mugs all the time. :lol:
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to post a giant mind-blowing annoying signature. kthx.
If you want to put your pic up, you put it in your profile. If someone wants to see your pic, they look at your profile.
Because the profiles are there, I really don't see the point in 'avatars.'
Do we really need to tackify the place, like so many 'tattoos' (so we can express our individuality like everyone else?)
Profiles, people. Profiles.
Besides, I don't want to look at some of your mugs all the time. :lol:
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to post a giant mind-blowing annoying signature. kthx.
Avatars are rarely someone's own picture.
Yeah, they're like tattoos.
And didn't this whole thing come up because people thought they would recognize people more? So, which is it?
Meh, you've all been wanting me gone for a long time anyway. Avatar your face off, and have fun. Might I suggest sheep faces?
I've used avatars like this before...
OHHHHH, yeah, I can see how Pete will recognize you from now on!
Whaaaaaaaaaaaa?
By "flagatars", are you talking about my 3 tiny little flags in my signature?
It's a play on words. Flagatars, Avatars, Tattootars, sigtars...really, anything much more than a concise thought (ahh yes, thoughts) is annoying. Just mho.
But I DID love jimhelm's 10 or 12 flags in his signature he had over the weekend. Brilliant! :lol:
I thought Jim's flags were brilliant as well.;)
Let me ask you, do you just wear black and beige clothing?
[COLOR="Red"]No[/COLOR], [COLOR="MediumTurquoise"]I[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkOrchid"]often[/COLOR] [COLOR="Green"]dress[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkOrange"]up[/COLOR] [COLOR="Navy"]in[/COLOR] [COLOR="Magenta"]coats[/COLOR] [COLOR="Blue"]of[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkOrange"]many[/COLOR] [COLOR="MediumTurquoise"]colors[/COLOR] [COLOR="Blue"]in[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkGreen"]real[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkOrange"]life[/COLOR].
Mostly, though, I use words and actions to express my individuality. I have that option.
I still think it would help me keep people straight.
That's homophobic!
[COLOR="Red"]No[/COLOR], [COLOR="MediumTurquoise"]I[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkOrchid"]often[/COLOR] [COLOR="Green"]dress[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkOrange"]up[/COLOR] [COLOR="Navy"]in[/COLOR] [COLOR="Magenta"]coats[/COLOR] [COLOR="Blue"]of[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkOrange"]many[/COLOR] [COLOR="MediumTurquoise"]colors[/COLOR] [COLOR="Blue"]in[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkGreen"]real[/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkOrange"]life[/COLOR].
Mostly, though, I use words and actions to express my individuality. I have that option.
Is your name Joseph? Do you interpret Pharoah's dreams?
[YOUTUBE]51f9uEYGeKw[/YOUTUBE]
Wow, I think that's Donnie Osmond playing Joseph.
I don't think an avatar would take away from someone using words to express their individuality here. But again, that's just my opinion. The consensus seems to be no avatars, so it's really a moot point.
Avatars are rarely someone's own picture.
Exactly the reason why they add ZERO.
Is your name Joseph? Do you interpret Pharoah's dreams?
Yoseph, to you. ;)
Exactly the reason why they add ZERO.
Then why is it that 95% of forums use them?
Most other forums suck?
Yeah, that's it. Most other forums suck, and appeal to a lower common denominator.
OK, if you say so. :rolleyes:
I'm cellar-centric. ;)
Pay me no mind.
If you are really clever/bored, you can use text art in your Location to create an avatar.... maybe?
I had one on my old forum. I've grown used to not having one. I kinda like it now. Fortunately the posters I generally ignore have easily recognisable names.
....and what is wrong with wearing all black?
Next time THE world cup is on, i'mm'a put up flags of all the participating nations and delete them as they get knocked out.....
....and what is wrong with wearing all black?
I was just trying to make a point. There is nothing wrong with wearing black. I wear it quite a bit myself.
we could put it to a vote
If this is a serious thing we're talking about, I wonder if it's possible to have the "sterile for work" view not include avatars? I'm not saying it's a deal breaker for me, but having avatars all over the screen is going to make discreet browsing from work more difficult.
Next time THE world cup is on, i'mm'a put up flags of all the participating nations and delete them as they get knocked out.....
I think the flags in my signature are very subtle and I see nothing wrong with them. I can't believe there is so much fuss over a few little flags. I even got a PM about them. Well, they're staying now for sure.
Honey you give yourself too much credit. I too was referring to Jim's weekend display. Which amused me. World cup flags would also amuse me.
Honey you give yourself too much credit. I too was referring to Jim's weekend display. Which amused me. World cup flags would also amuse me.
Too much credit. That's funny! Jim's display was actually in my defense, honey.
:drunk: :comfort: :doit: :unsure: :cry:
A story in pictures. :lol:
I wonder if it's possible to have the "sterile for work" view not include avatars?
I agree. It is always possible to turn off avatars in your control panel.
Sweet, hadn't thought of that:
From control panel:
You can show or hide various elements of messages, which may be good for users on slow internet connections, or who want to remove extraneous clutter from posts. We recommend you leave these settings where they are. The Cellar doesn't use Avatars anyway (we feel they make any forum look like crap).
Show Signatures
Show Avatars
Show Images (including attached images and images in [IMG] code)
Avatars. Alas, I was evil and hotlinked my horrific animated rooster picture, and it's no longer there...
Too much credit. That's funny! Jim's display was actually in my defense, honey.
So what? Your flags are nothing to me. I hadn't even noticed them. Why are you making such a freaking song and dance about it? :rolleyes:
So what? Your flags are nothing to me. I hadn't even noticed them. Why are you making such a freaking song and dance about it? :rolleyes:
I'm not.
Holy fuck. Holy fucking fuck.
I had no clue. Not even the slightest suspicion.
Nice to know what became of Marichiko after all. I always wondered.
For the record, I liked Mari. Tried the email address I had when she'd gone.
*smiles*
Nice goin Sam. So happy my friend didn't vanish off into some awful hell never to return.
Can't wait til the next time J asks me if there's anything goin on in the Cellar :p
I'll be all, like ' D'ye remember that Marichiko chick ....'
:p
I have been to other forums that use avatars and have found them to be annoying.
I for one will vote no avatars. I think that our signatures and profile pictures are enough. Go to my profile and see a very annoying avatar.
Banning gifs would eliminate the flashing ones. If you really wanted to be strict, you could only allow head and shoulder shots.
You bastard! What did I ever,... of gif not griff nevermind, as you were.
fwiw this forum software does not currently have support for banning of gifs or griffs.
I'm starting to think BD is someone's sock puppet. Or at least, someone we've met here before maybe? Does anyone else get that feeling?
Gosh this is so confusing.
I vote no to avatars. I don't think they help to recognise anyone. I'd only plop a pic of my head up if they were compulsory, and I really don't see that happening. I'd choose the no avatar format if both options were available.
Question for UT. If we had the avatar option, would that mean it'd cost more to run the cellar?
btw, I wonder if BD has discovered the tip jar yet.
I'm starting to think BD is someone's sock puppet. Or at least, someone we've met here before maybe? Does anyone else get that feeling?
Gosh this is so confusing.
I vote no to avatars. I don't think they help to recognise anyone. I'd only plop a pic of my head up if they were compulsory, and I really don't see that happening. I'd choose the no avatar format if both options were available.
Question for UT. If we had the avatar option, would that mean it'd cost more to run the cellar?
btw, I wonder if BD has discovered the tip jar yet.
No, I'm no one's sock puppet nor have I ever been here before. However, I do have to say that this is one of the most unwelcoming forums I have ever been on. No one has made me feel welcome with the exception of one or two members. Then I get a PM from someone here asking me to remove the flags in my signature because they are too distracting. Now I'm called someone's sock puppet or saying that I am a previous member that has been banned or left or whatever. I'm above games like that. I looked to see how many new members have recently joined here and there were quite a few, but only one in the past few months decided to stick around. Now I can see why.
Undertoad...please delete the pics I have posted in the 80's hair thread, the RFN thread and the pet thread. I have no desire to post here anymore.
I'm sorry. It's just that you really remind me of someone else, but I just can't put my finger on who. Maybe it's because you are as you say, totally new to this forum. :)
Don't leave because of a few questions. That's just people trying to get to know you. ;)
I thought it seemed that plenty of people welcomed you in your intro thread. We've had the discussion about avatars around here lots of times before and it's always ended up not going ahead because it just would seem out of place or something like that here. Do a search on the avatar word and you'll find them. Most people just don't agree that they're necessary that's all. It's the same deal with the signatures. most people just keep them small.
At the cellar, we care what's on the inside of your post, not all the pretty frills on the outside. ;)
Wait, what? I've seen people be welcoming towards you. I'd like to think I was one of them.
I'd like to think so too, Dana.
I said there were one or two members that did make me feel welcome. And my intro thread had promise which made me come back, however not all in that thread were welcoming. Also, I sent some friendly visitor messages but no one had the decency to reply to any them. It seems you all like your tightly knit community and newcomers are not considered anything until they somehow prove themselves. I don't work that way.
That's a bit dramatic don't you think?
BTW, where's my visitor message? how come only some people got them and not all? That's not very nice is it?
No-one looks at visitor messages. If you actually took the advice on joining this forum -sit down, look around, get the feel of the place brfore jumping in with both feet, that might have registered. We don't do "Bells and Whistles" ANY of them -even if they are technically available. You weren't welcomed? Bullshit. You weren't fawned over, true. You wanna fit in, quit whining and attention whoring and post stuff with body. Sure, we all post frivolous shit, but that isn't what we're all about. If you missed that, you didn't look hard enough. Leaving? Don't let the door hit you in the ass because this cellar door is tornado-proof and packs a mighty buttfuck in the mouth.
No-one looks at visitor messages. If you actually took the advice on joining this forum -sit down, look around, get the feel of the place brfore jumping in with both feet, that might have registered. We don't do "Bells and Whistles" ANY of them -even if they are technically available. You weren't welcomed? Bullshit. You weren't fawned over, true. You wanna fit in, quit whining and attention whoring and post stuff with body. Sure, we all post frivolous shit, but that isn't what we're all about. If you missed that, you didn't look hard enough. Leaving? Don't let the door hit you in the ass because this cellar door is tornado-proof and packs a mighty buttfuck in the mouth.
Fuck off bitch.
That's nice.
And well deserved.
Butt fuck in the mouth...fawned over...attention whoring...post stuff with body? You sound like a jealous bitch. Do you think I'm new to forums? Maybe you should spread your fucked up wings and look around the internet a little and you'll see this isn't how people are treated on forums that want decent members.
its Pam !!!
No it's not. Try again. Like I said, I'm above having to hide behind a fake user name so I can come back as someone else like so many here seem to do. What's with all the changing of the usernames anyway? That's frowned upon on other quality sites.
bye! :D
wait, weren't you leaving?
When new comers arrive here, I sometimes think they just don't realize how long some people have been posting and sharing personal stuff with this community, and it's hard for some people to understand that and realize the support people show for one another even through or despite differences in political or even moral beliefs is real.
Maybe if more new comers had the chance to see this they'd stay longer themselves. I do remember when I first came here I felt like I was on the outter for a long time, but I don't feel that way anymore, even though there are some here that I don't get along with so well. And it's not like I don't care about even those people. I wish the best for all the people I've come to know over the years i've been here.
It takes time to get to know people, and you can't expect to just be treated like one of the family if the family doesn't know how to treat you.
It takes time to get to know people, and you can't expect to just be treated like one of the family if you just showed up to attach a few flyers to the door, suggest a new color scheme for the siding, and let your dog poop on the lawn without picking it up.....
Ghost-wrote that for you....
bye! :D
wait, weren't you leaving?
Like I said, fuck off jealous bitch.
When new comers arrive here, I sometimes think they just don't realize how long some people have been posting and sharing personal stuff with this community, and it's hard for some people to understand that and realize the support people show for one another even through or despite differences in political or even moral beliefs is real.
Maybe if more new comers had the chance to see this they'd stay longer themselves. I do remember when I first came here I felt like I was on the outter for a long time, but I don't feel that way anymore, even though there are some here that I don't get along with so well. And it's not like I don't care about even those people. I wish the best for all the people I've come to know over the years i've been here.
It takes time to get to know people, and you can't expect to just be treated like one of the family if the family doesn't know how to treat you.
"Fawning over" isn't necessary. But being nice to newbs and making them feel welcome should be on a forum that cares about new members. I've made posts that were completely ignored. My breast cancer walk thread was changed into the 'what should monster wear thread'.
geez, The following is a post, I tried to post a few back...but now just feels silly.
Hello Brilliant Disguise. I am sorry I didn't say hello. Don't take it personally. We are kind of marginal around here sometimes. :)
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Monster isn't marginal. Hence the name.
Jealous of what, exactly? The stuck in the 80s thing?
oh and thread-drift... that's what the cellar is all about. Did you miss the memo?
Suggest you go back to those awesome forums...
My breast cancer walk thread was changed into the 'what should monster wear thread'.
It wasn't ignored. I, for one, have been busy and just didn't read it yet.
Threads do not belong to anyone....
geez, The following is a post, I tried to post a few back...but now just feels silly.
Hello Brilliant Disguise. I am sorry I didn't say hello. Don't take it personally. We are kind of marginal around here sometimes. :)
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Monster isn't marginal. Hence the name.
It wasn't ignored. I, for one, have been busy and just didn't read it yet.
I don't have a problem with you at all. Now monster on the other hand is just a big bitch.
BD, this forum has minimal moderation, therefor, thread drift is inevitable.
We've all been touched by cancer, and I'm sure everyone feels very supportive of your efforts with your walk.
Monster is a pain in the arse. You'll just have to get used to her or find a way to deal with her if you stick around, cause she doesn't seem to be going anywhere. That's one tip I can give you, and believe me, monster and I have had our differences. lol She's not that bad really though.
I know all about thread drift. As I've said I'm not new to forums at all. I think most thread drifts can turn out to be very funny and normally I welcome them.
I'm thinking the "jealous bitch" thing is maybe a psychological projection ?
Bitch, no questiion.
Score is 40:love, game point......
I'm thinking the "jealous bitch" thing is maybe a psychological projection ?
Bitch, no questiion.
I'm not the only one that thinks this.
oh and game to monster.
Really? People don't like me? Well fuck!11!!1!
Ali and sky would be among them.....
Who fucking hijacked the "Confession Time" thread.
I WANT ANSWERS
I know all about thread drift. As I've said I'm not new to forums at all. I think most thread drifts can turn out to be very funny and normally I welcome them.
Well then why are you upset about it then. I don't understand. Is it just that you feel very strongly about that particular thread? Were you looking for a response that didn't happen?
If so, you could just say that in the thread.
Don't get all upset about a few bitchy remarks. Believe me, it's not worth the agro.
Just interact how you like. Maybe post on some of the other threads? I haven't really paid much attention to where you're posting in particular, but you seem to be getting about the same sorts of responses as everyone else.
We're a bit communist here. Everyone is subject to the same bitchery regardless of how long they've been here for, so maybe you should just consider yourself lucky. lol That's better than special anyway isn't it? ;)
I'd like to confess my stinky tennis shoes now.
This is why I hate tennis shoes. They are hot sweaty and after a while they just plain stink.
I need some Mercy Crocs.
There's a name for someone who provokes drama and then hangs around to enjoy it, and that name is woman.
Who fucking hijacked the "Confession Time" thread.
I WANT ANSWERS
if we don't confess, will the spanish inquisition be invoked? 'cause I never expect them....
There's a name for someone who provokes drama and then hangs around to enjoy it, and that name is woman.
hey!
There's a name for someone who provokes drama and then hangs around to enjoy it, and that name is woman.
hmmm. and Thor.
Well then why are you upset about it then. I don't understand. Is it just that you feel very strongly about that particular thread? Were you looking for a response that didn't happen?
If so, you could just say that in the thread.
Don't get all upset about a few bitchy remarks. Believe me, it's not worth the agro.
Just interact how you like. Maybe post on some of the other threads? I haven't really paid much attention to where you're posting in particular, but you seem to be getting about the same sorts of responses as everyone else.
We're a bit communist here. Everyone is subject to the same bitchery regardless of how long they've been here for, so maybe you should just consider yourself lucky. lol That's better than special anyway isn't it? ;)
Thanks, I appreciate your kind words. I'm sure if I felt I could spend more time here, we could have gotten along very well. But I don't think this is the place for me. I'm not upset, I just needed to get some things out there before I left.
Undertoad, if you can delete those pics for me I would appreciate it. Thank you.
I've been trying to get us back on track. My feet hurt. A LOT.
oh and game to monster.
Really? People don't like me? Well fuck!11!!1!
Ali and sky would be among them.....
Yeah you piss me off sometimes, but it's not that I don't like you. I recognise the nice things you do and your good qualities, I have a lot of trouble understanding your sense of humour and I do think you're very abrasive. People say the same about me though, so I'm trying to work around it rather than running into a brick wall with my hard head any longer.
There you go UT. There's another confession, just to get the thread back on track.
Thanks, I appreciate your kind words. I'm sure if I felt I could spend more time here, we could have gotten along very well. But I don't think this is the place for me. I'm not upset, I just needed to get some things out there before I left.
Undertoad, if you can delete those pics for me I would appreciate it. Thank you.
New people leave so often than not. :(
Sorry to see you go. I wish you wouldn't!
There's a name for someone who demands that you treat him very specifically how he would like to be treated, then stamps away in a tantrum, and that name is Drax.
I guess that's what I like about the cellar. no one is really one dimensional if you hang around long enough to get to know them.
You seem cheery tonight UT. Or maybe it's unusually entertaining. I don't usually see you being this light hearted. Having a good day?
There's a name for someone who demands that you treat him very specifically how he would like to be treated, then stamps away in a tantrum, and that name is Drax.
But that was not Drax.
There are only posters formerly known as Drax around here now aren't there?
First you guys drive away Butthurt, now Brillig (and, of course, Pensive Pam).
There are only posters formerly known as Drax around here now aren't there?
Dick Sellers.
There's a name for someone who demands that you treat him very specifically how he would like to be treated, then stamps away in a tantrum, and that name is Drax.
I'm not demanding anything and I'm not stamping away in a tantrum. And I don't know who Drax is. I'm only requesting that my pictures be deleted.
First you guys drive away Butthurt, now Brillig (and, of course, Pensive Pam).
You forgot Emma!
I'm not demanding anything and I'm not stamping away in a tantrum. And I don't know who Drax is. I'm only requesting that my pictures be deleted.
I tried that once. It didn't happen, so I stuck around.
Just to keep an eye on your pictures?
I tried that once. It didn't happen, so I stuck around.
Oh, so my pictures won't get deleted? Great.
First you guys drive away Butthurt, now Brillig (and, of course, Pensive Pam).
Sorry, it was buttless, not Butthurt. I guess I was confused by
My thoughts on homophobia.You know BD, we've all been guilty of the odd hissy fit.
You could always just claim a momentary lapse of sanity/patience/reason and say. ;)
Just to keep an eye on your pictures?
Yes.
Wow, where are they? They must be good. lol
You know BD, we've all been guilty of the odd hissy fit.
You could always just claim a momentary lapse of sanity/patience/reason and say. ;)
Exactly. you claim this forum is anti-newb and yet here we are, with regular posters who joined from the start date until pretty recently. You want to be one, learn to fit in, don't try to change us. We are legiion. ...and don't call me stupid!
$5 in the tip mug really loosens up my delete button
$5 in the tip mug really loosens up my delete button
Extortion? lol Really?
Being nice is a person's best bet but that option is lost.
Extortion? lol Really?
I'm laughing.
Being nice is a person's best bet but that option is lost.
Ok Mr. Softie.
I would give someone 20 easy if I really wanted my photos off.
( oh sorry, I thought Ali was being sarcastic. I hardly think 5 dollars is extortion)
Wow, where are they? They must be good. lol
Well, there was this picture of the fox, sniffing a rat:
I'm laughing.
Ok Mr. Softie.
I would give someone 20 easy if I really wanted my photos off.
( oh sorry, I thought Ali was being sarcastic. I hardly think 5 dollars is extortion)
I was joking. No sarcasm. lol I thought it was funny.
eta: Is there a minimum amount before it becomes extortion? I thought it could be any amount (or thing of value) being held to ransom for a desired outcome. $5 is a lot of money in some cultures.
also eta: What do you call it before you hit the minimum amount? lol
Woah, WTF? I had just been thinking that BD was the sanest noob we've had in ages. I must have blinked or something, what happened?
Yeah but what about extortion?
That was what I was thinking, gum. I liked her right away. Like, I should say. It's a shame that things went this way. I really didn't think we were particularly harsh or that we ignored her on purpose...
I know fitting into a tight group like this can be tricky, but....I mean... every one of us was a noob at first, right? You have our attention now, I'd say...
Would you give it another shot, brill?
She's taken all of her pictures down; but, I'm sure you already had her image burned into your hard drive. CONFESS!
Woah, WTF? I had just been thinking that BD was the sanest noob we've had in ages. I must have blinked or something, what happened?
I know, right?
I liked BD, and was pleased she was joining us. She jumped right into a lot of the mindless association threads. Nothing wrong with some mindless posts. I don't think we treated her badly at all. The only attitude she got was when she wanted to go changing things here with the avatars.
She really seemed to know the Cellar though. Like how did she know to ask Undertoad to delete the pictures? He doesn't exactly advertise who he is.
i think it's in the site faq isn't it?
I'm starting to think BD is someone's sock puppet. Or at least, someone we've met here before maybe? Does anyone else get that feeling?
~snip~
I thought that right away. I keep hearing that song "It seems we've stood and talked like this before..."
No it's not. Try again. Like I said, I'm above having to hide behind a fake user name so I can come back as someone else like so many here seem to do. What's with all the changing of the usernames anyway? That's frowned upon on other quality sites.
I'm not sure how you know about all the "changing of usenames." Has someone changed their name since you're been here?
We're just expressing ourselves. Since UT won't let us have any damn avatars, we have to change our usernames so that others get our 'essence.' ;)
Someone mentioned Safari.....? Gawd, now I'm having Tiki flashbacks. I couldn't have cared less about the flags in the sigline -it was Jim's that I noticed (and who couldn't) and they were gone before they became irritating.... it was quite refereshing to have a chatty newb and then....
I agree too much knowledge of the forum for someone who found us using a google search. And that complete bs about
not being welcomed. That smells of someone with a prior agenda.
Hmmmmmmmmm. Verrrrrry Interessssting.
Right, people were falling all over themselves in the Hi Here's Me thread she started.
I didn't buy it, but I just wasn't sure why.
The instant 'attraction/flirty' thing with LJ got me wondering. Like she really wasn't all that interested in trying to join our group after all.
Hmm. Flirt with the guy all the single girls are flirting with, start a fight with the biggest bitch..... isn't the next step to wait for all the professional victims to crawl out of the woodwork and join the army? :lol:
Ah well. kept me entertained for 10 minutes or so...
The people that think I have been here before are all a bunch of fucking idiots. As far as the changing of usernames, when I first came here Brianna was thinking of changing hers. Then other people mentioned how they changed theirs. It's really not difficult to figure out things. You just have to have a little intelligence. That must be hard for some of you to imagine. And how long have you people been on forums that you don't even know how to navigate your own site? The forum leaders are right under FAQ on this forum. For most forums though there is a link at the bottom somewhere.
I'm here to reply to a few PM's I got and to also make sure I deleted my pics. Now please, leave me alone and go talk about your interesting lives in other threads or get back to your confessions.
It's been really nice getting to know you all. :yelsick:
The instant 'attraction/flirty' thing with LJ got me wondering. Like she really wasn't all that interested in trying to join our group after all.
That is such fucking bullshit.
Hmm. Flirt with the guy all the single girls are flirting with, start a fight with the biggest bitch..... isn't the next step to wait for all the professional victims to crawl out of the woodwork and join the army? :lol:
Ah well. kept me entertained for 10 minutes or so...
Jealousy again?
I'm not sure how you know about all the "changing of usenames." Has someone changed their name since you're been here?
This thread was about a user who came back under a new name. :)
Look y'all, this is how you know a new user is bad news: they post a picture of themselves within the first 10 posts (80s hair thread, in case memories need jogging.) Every additional picture before their 300th post causes their chances of being an attention whore to skyrocket logarithmically.
This thread was about a user who came back under a new name. :)
Look y'all, this is how you know a new user is bad news: they post a picture of themselves within the first 10 posts (80s hair thread, in case memories need jogging.) Every additional picture before their 300th post causes their chances of being an attention whore to skyrocket logarithmically.
Oh another jealous one. This is funny. I was warned of all the jealous bitches here. Hey I don't remember a welcome from you.
I'm done here. None of you are worth any of my time.
Neither monster nor Clod have any reasons to be jealous of anyone! They're awesomes in their own rights.
Me? That's another story. I want one quality from each female dwellar then maybe...just MAYBE...I won't feel like such an unmade bed of a woman.
But then, I wouldn't be me, would I? :blush:
..so that others get our 'essence.' ;)
Yeah, essence. I'm sending you my dry cleaning bill.
I told you to stand back. I even had a sign "YOU WILL GET WET ON THIS RIDE."
(Did I type that out loud? Crude, crude crude!) :lol:
Hey, if people pay to see Gallagher...
I'm here to reply to a few PM's I got and to also make sure I deleted my pics. Now please, leave me alone and go talk about your interesting lives in other threads or get back to your confessions.
It's been really nice getting to know you all. :yelsick:
That is such fucking bullshit.
Jealousy again?
:lol:
LEAVE ME ALOOOOONE!!!!!!!
WHY IS NO-ONE TALKING TO ME???????????
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!1!!!11
"I was warned of all the jealous bitches here"
too funny. OK thanks for the chortle, I'm off for a few moments of having a life, enjoy the PMing with ur homeys :p:
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Eff you monster. I never got a visitor message from you. Beach!
oh I left you a little message alright, you just haven't found it yet.
Don't look at me like I don't have visitor messages. HA!
The social interaction here is fabulous! :D
It is. But let's be honest. We're really all here for the hottub sex of a weekend. Amirite?
All you cellar bitchez are just trying to scare away new Sheilas so's you can have Jim and myself™® all to yourself.
There may be a lot of love in this thread right now, but there'd be even more if all y'all weren't so possessive and jealous.
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I was joking. No sarcasm. lol I thought it was funny.
ok, good. That was my first impression too and I laughed. :)
I hope Sam doesn't mind a little thread drift.
She's going to come on the Cellar and say, "Oh, look! Someone replied to my thread!"
The instant 'attraction/flirty' thing with LJ got me wondering. Like she really wasn't all that interested in trying to join our group after all.
Hmm. Flirt with the guy all the single girls are flirting with, start a fight with the biggest bitch..... isn't the next step to wait for all the professional victims to crawl out of the woodwork and join the army? :lol:
Ah well. kept me entertained for 10 minutes or so...
WAIT!
the single girls are flirting with me?! which ones are they again?
I think she meant "every single girl" not, "all the single girls"
'Cause if you liked it then you should've put a ring on it.
WAIT!
the single girls are flirting with me?! which ones are they again?
merc, ug.... all the hot chicks.;)
Hmmm. Monster didnt say hot.....
I liked BD, and was pleased she was joining us. She jumped right into a lot of the mindless association threads. Nothing wrong with some mindless posts. I don't think we treated her badly at all. The only attitude she got was when she wanted to go changing things here with the avatars.
She really seemed to know the Cellar though. Like how did she know to ask Undertoad to delete the pictures? He doesn't exactly advertise who he is.
I was the one to suggest avatars. She just joined in.
I thought she was fine ... then we hit the edge of the cliff and all hell broke loose.
Well the cellar seems to have phasers set to full snark. There seems to be very little tolerance for newbs who don't immediately mold themselves into the cellar culture.
I think that some have been acting a certain way here for so long & the newbs don't "get" the (hopefully) intended humor.
We DO love our memes.
She WAS doin a good job of fitting right in, but she is clearly accustomed to a more mainstream warm and fuzzy sort of welcome. I like her, but I didn't enjoy being put on the defensive for not being friendly in a collective sense. Perhaps she's dealing with some stresses in other areas of life, and was a bit oversensitive to our prickly side.
Boy, that does NOT sound like something I would say at ALL, does it?
Lemme try again...
Brilley,
Stop being a cock, and get back in here. Rub some dirt on your feelings, limber up, and put a helmet on. Be yourself. Freak out and leave on a weekly basis if you like, we're cool with that if it's funny when you do it. You could even make it part of your schtick, and then this would be no big deal.... One day we will all look back at this
thread and laugh, laugh, laugh. LOL even.
Hi, future Jim. I hope you've lost some weight, ya fat barstard. Drop and give me 20!
Anyway.....I hope she's stll lurking and sees this.
Come back and play with us!
Well the cellar seems to have phasers set to full snark. There seems to be very little tolerance for newbs who don't immediately mold themselves into the cellar culture.
We should blame someone and use them as a scape goat!
What could possilby go wrong?
Everytime someone comes along and it doesn't work out, the Cellar is described as the snarkiest it's ever been.
News: the Cellar snark, though it might ebb and flow, is always there. Sometimes it's cleverly disguised, sometimes it's just out there.
Remember Jill? Yeah, I liked Jill. She was strong, opinionated, and smart. What was her 'schtick'? She liked to argue in the politics threads. What an uproar that caused. I think she did post a picture, too, and is very pretty...but she did so because you know, you gotta see how the new chick looks, right? She didn't sit back and bat her eyes and wait for praise, though. She liked politics. Well, the politics thread at that time was offending so many people, because it was so meeeeaaaannnn, and all admonitions to just not read it were ignored. Maybe Jill should have sent more visitor messages to the boys? (Another news flash, if a woman shows disdain for another woman it isn't always because she's jealous. Women have a pretty good handle on the behavior of women. It's cute that some of the guys are so pavlovian, but really, some of us need to enter the 21st century, STAT!)
So what's the difference? I don't understand, so I hope someone can explain it to me.
Is it that we stand up for those who portray themselves as meek and helpless, and who contribute in that fashion, but we don't stand up for those who seem strong and self-sufficient? News flash: strong and self-sufficient people have feelings too. And actual thoughts! And ideas! And they can be driven out by the 'cellar culture' too. Whether the poster prefers politics or music or inane dribble, we have a culture for that.
IMHO, Dis turned when the tone turned: when the drooling stopped and it moved on to the more serious matter of 'whatcha got' the attention wasn't being focused where Dis preferred.
I think she was quite warmly welcomed in her intro thread. Did that need to continue to guarantee her continued presence? Hi, have you met the Cellar? ;)
(I'm not entirely convinced, still, the Dis isn't some 'former' dwellar, but that's really neither here nor there.)
Sure, Dis could come back. So could Jill. Their choice.
But Jebus stop blaming the people who don't fall over for every newb that comes along. I've said before, the finger pointing is another form of exclusion (snark, if you will) and none of us gets to dictate how all of us should act to every different personality type that comes along.
Well if people would just arrive when we're all in a good mood everything would be fine!
So, every February 29th which falls on a Tuesday, we advertise for Noobs, right?
Isn't that Brianna's birthday?
But we are in a good mood.
Well you should be after eating that out of date meat. lol
According to some here, you were taking your life into your own hands...after taking advice from me. :rolleyes:
Well, just let me tell you that I'm a woman who drinks unfiltered tank water from a tank I think I heard (but am choosing to ignore) a frog croaking in a few days ago.
eta: I'm not sure if it's worse that I heard the frog or that I haven't heard it since...
Do you have a frog in your throat? :)
Well now that you mention it, I have been coughing a lot lately...
SOME of you people make me laugh. You know NOTHING about me to sit there and make assumptions about my life. None of you know any of the trials and tribulations I've dealt with in my life. Meek and helpless? You don't know me at all. I'm a pretty tough cookie. Yeah, I posted an 80's picture shortly after I joined. But that's because like I said in the thread, I had JUST posted the same pictures on another forum in the same type of thread. It was a fucking 80's picture for God's sake. How many years ago was that?!! After I posted that, someone asked me to post a current pic in RFN, so I did. Big fucking deal. I didn't "turn when the tone turned" when the "drooling stopped". In fact I didn't notice any drooling at all. Also, why are you all so hung up on the fact that I sent a few Visitor Messages? They were friendly on my part, not flirty. I received a few PM's when all this shit started. I was told that some of you feel threatened and jealous because apparently you feel I took some attention away from you. I also received a PM with a list of the members here. There was a nice list, a crazy and avoid list and there was a total asshole list. I bet you're wondering where you fit on that list right about now. I won't divulge who sent me these PM's, but trust me, I have them. I don't like to join a forum and start posting in every thread there is or put my opinion out there in every thread. I like to ease onto a forum in a friendly manner and not come on too strong. I feel I was doing that. I was friendly, joking, complimentary, etc. But you chose to see something different from me.
Also, once again I am not some ex disgruntled member that felt a need to return with an alias. Why you keep thinking that just tells me that you must have a lot of ex disgruntled members. What does that tell you? Do me a favor. Go to members list and change it to where it shows by 'join date'. Go to the last page where it shows the newest members and work backwards. How many new members have actually stuck around in the last year or more? That should tell you something right there.
I think of myself as a nice, friendly person that never deliberately tries to hurt anyone. I also feel I have a lot to contribute to forums. I was hoping The Cellar was the place for me because the age group was mainly made up of members my age or close to it, mature thinking people. But apparently it's not.
Now if you people don't like me and don't want me here why in the world do you keep talking about me? Just let it go now and move on.
You know NOTHING about me to sit there and make assumptions about my life. None of you know any of the trials and tribulations I've dealt with in my life. Meek and helpless? You don't know me at all.
Maybe if you told us a little about yourself we would know more.
Welcome back, by the way. Stick around.
Maybe if you told us a little about yourself we would know more.
Welcome back, by the way. Stick around.
I'm not going to just start telling you about my entire life when I first join either. Then I would be called a bragger or attention whore I'm sure. Plus, it's not what I do. Like I said, I ease into things. If people ask me a question though, I will gladly answer. But that won't happen because no, I'm not back. Again I was just replying to a PM and saw the wonderful comments posted about me.
OK, yebbut then why are you in disguise, then? huh? tell me that!
A HA! caught you!
never mind, too late. Oh and whoever sent that lsit of all the crazies to avoid, plz pm me a copy. You can do it anonymously too.
OK, yebbut then why are you in disguise, then? huh? tell me that!
A HA! caught you!
I think I posted that it's one of my favorite Bruce songs and thought it would be a cool name for a forum. But thanks for the funny. :)
never mind, too late. Oh and whoever sent that lsit of all the crazies to avoid, plz pm me a copy. You can do it anonymously too.
Me too!
HA!
I don't care where I fit on what list or why, or even what dumbass would create such a list.
Usually stuff like that is just a preface to getting you to trust them so they can get into your cyber-pants anyway. Yawn. :lol:
Yeah, you eased right in.
You're just an instigator. Go away, like you promised.
(Please to read my post about jealousy: just because someone whispered around that we're jealous bitches (again, motives...pay attention here) doesn't mean we're jealous bitches. Some of us bitches just have no patience for phony transparent attention ho's. It only take a little bit of intelligence and a few rounds around the old block to develop a pretty good sense of one's ticking mechanism.)
HA!
I don't care where I fit on what list or why, or even what dumbass would create such a list.
Usually stuff like that is just a preface to getting you to trust them so they can get into your cyber-pants anyway. Yawn. :lol:
Yeah, you eased right in.
You're just an instigator. Go away, like you promised.
And you're a fucking psycho.
I have a tip jar if anyone wants the list. :D
Sam, just look what you started, with the help of continental drift
Politcs is sort of peaceful now, at least compared with Home Base
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HA!
I don't care where I fit on what list or why, or even what dumbass would create such a list.
Usually stuff like that is just a preface to getting you to trust them so they can get into your cyber-pants anyway. Yawn. :lol:
Yeah, you eased right in.
You're just an instigator. Go away, like you promised.
(Please to read my post about jealousy: just because someone whispered around that we're jealous bitches (again, motives...pay attention here) doesn't mean we're jealous bitches. Some of us bitches just have no patience for phony transparent attention ho's. It only take a little bit of intelligence and a few rounds around the old block to develop a pretty good sense of one's ticking mechanism.)
I'm not even going to dignify this with a response, but the more you post the more things show about what kind of person you are.
Oh oh oh can I be on the asshole list? oh wait...:eyebrow:
WB Beady :)
I'm not even going to dignify this with a response, but the more you post the more things show about what kind of person you are.
HEY! Stop not dignifying my responses with responses by posting responses. :lol:
" Never before have I turned on you
You looked too good to me Your Beady eyes,
they can cut me in two
And I just can't let you be
It's a free-for-all and I heard it said
You can bet your life
Stakes are high and so am I
It's in the air toni-i-ight"
I bet you're wondering where you fit on that list right about now
Ooh the DRAMA, it's so exciting! But what I *really* like is when a lot of people are fighting and it's all due to ME ME ME! Let me see how many more I can draw in... oh, this will work:
I have deep secrets about your group! That only I will divulge! Now you NEED me! But I'm going! Because you're a bunch of assholes! Don't ask me about the list again! Unless you really want to! Hint hint!
Now I'm out of here, so you better stop talking about me and my list! If you keep talking about me I will be back to remind you to stop talking about me and I will bring up the list again! You don't know how powerful I am due to this list!
You treat new people like shit and I deserve better so I'm going to insult the crap out of you and try to use everybody against each other! Being nice to new people is the most important thing for a forum! That's why I'm still here trying to drum up shit! Because I like you and I know you have a lot of potential! You better shape up or my list will be coming soon!
I hate you people so much! Try to guess who sent me the list! Won't you hate that person if you are on the list! You'll have a big fight if you are on the list! Try to guess if you are on the list! Maybe you'll fight anyway! Go ahead and fight!
ok that oughta do it now let's sit back and watch the fireworks
ooh wow boom! pretty
Ooh the DRAMA, it's so exciting! But what I *really* like is when a lot of people are fighting and it's all due to ME ME ME! Let me see how many more I can draw in... oh, this will work:
I have deep secrets about your group! That only I will divulge! Now you NEED me! But I'm going! Because you're a bunch of assholes! Don't ask me about the list again! Unless you really want to! Hint hint!
Now I'm out of here, so you better stop talking about me and my list! If you keep talking about me I will be back to remind you to stop talking about me and I will bring up the list again! You don't know how powerful I am due to this list!
You treat new people like shit and I deserve better so I'm going to insult the crap out of you and try to use everybody against each other! Being nice to new people is the most important thing for a forum! That's why I'm still here trying to drum up shit! Because I like you and I know you have a lot of potential! You better shape up or my list will be coming soon!
I hate you people so much! Try to guess who sent me the list! Won't you hate that person if you are on the list! You'll have a big fight if you are on the list! Try to guess if you are on the list! Maybe you'll fight anyway! Go ahead and fight!
ok that oughta do it now let's sit back and watch the fireworks
ooh wow boom! pretty
Whatever. No wonder why this forum is so great!:rolleyes:
Hi Pam.
why so pensive?
Borderline personalities are all well and good until your forum is neck-deep in them.
ftr - I don't think BeeDee is Pam.
Just Pam-like.
Pam-ISH, if you will. A Pam with more control over her emotions if not living situation.
Hi Pam.
why so pensive?
Borderline personalities are all well and good until your forum is neck-high in them.
Who is Pam, who is Jill? You people are fucking nuts. Don't worry UT, I'm outta here.
Pensive Pam.
she was a load of fun.
Stick around if you want.
you seem to want. :D
I wrote the list.
It was intended as humor, and if I could, I would make a couple of changes. Most regrettable are the omissions, naturally. I want to apologize to Brill. I posted what I intended as support for her last night, but I offended her with my choice of words.
My dad used to say that I could fuck up a new crowbar.
We WILL pinpoint her exact location on the DSM-IV
....like we do all newbs....
....I was thinking hot-chick syndrome, which is not listed yet but will be in the DSM-V....
...."Princesses like myself are not to be treated this way. Where is my anointed pedestal?"
Ooooooooo!
Just got a PM from BD.
She writes, "I'm Pam-ish. Well, I got a description of you as well."
She's daring me, you guys! DARING ME!!!!!
We WILL pinpoint her exact location on the DSM-IV
....like we do all newbs....
....I was thinking hot-chick syndrome, which is not listed yet but will be in the DSM-V....
...."Princesses like myself are not to be treated this way. Where is my anointed pedestal?"
Is that a threat? I wouldn't go there if I were you.
Ban me if you want though, I really don't care.
If I wasn't on the AH list you owe me one too JH :eyebrow:
I'm Pam-ish? Yeah well, I've heard a description of you as well.
my PM. from the drama-phobic BD.
You silly bitch. Just come right out with it, will you? You don't have to resort to PM's to insinuate things. :lol:
Isn't that Brianna's birthday?
Hey! thanks for noticing! ;)
I shall be 12 this coming Feb.
I posted what I intended as support for her last night, but I offended her with my choice of words.
It's fake offense, because drama is the actual goal.
My dad used to say that I could fuck up a new crowbar.
This one was sold bent. You gotta stop buying the bent ones and then thinking you bent them... it'll destroy ya.
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My dad used to say that I could fuck up a new crowbar.
:notworthy I'm saving that one to use with my grandson
personally, I don't think shes a drama queen. I think shes standing up to a crowd. Not an enviable position to be in.
I'm really sorry this has gotten so out of hand, brill.
Pretty is your blind spot Jim. If a man was behaving like this, using YOUR LIST, you'd immediately give him a rash of shit and rightfully so.
Geez jim, I'm still having trouble believing you made a LIST.
You're not fickle, typically. You're no cliche, as a rule.
UT is right.
:(
Who is BD, really?
Her comment to Bri: well, I've heard a description of you too. Fucking fuck. Fuck that.
I wasn't wondering but now I am.
I wonder what Jim said about me...
things that make you go "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"
must not have been very complimentary. And here all this time I thought we were friends?
geez, BD. I hope you're happy now.
I'm flummoxed.
Nevermind.
I'm too old for this nonsense.
We are a complex people. hard to pin down.
I accept that.
Now watch as I go flounce off. :D
You're so cute when you flounce. (winky wink!) :)
You're so cute when you flounce. (winky wink!) :)
I only flounce because I am an attention whoring so-and-so.
And I have a flouncy skirt.
I'm flummoxed.
Nice to meetcha!
It's a short list, and it really was made quickly and as a joke. I was just trying to help her fit in. She reached out to me when she started to feel excluded, and I was trying to tell her not to take offense or worry overmuch about one persons opinion...
I'm not happy about her bringing it up in public, and using it as bait or leverage, but then again...I did write it and will own up to it. I am still trying to salvage the possibility of being friends with her privately. I love all of you...my cyber family...even the ones on the asshole list. And it's tough to see friends fight with each other. It certainly seems improbable that she will be able to recover gracefully from this bloodbath, but I will still try to help her do that if I can.
Bri, you're not on the list. As I said, the omissions are the worst part of it. I forgot glatt too.
Monster is on all 3 lists. I'm on 2. So please, don't take it seriously.... It was but a jape.
And UT, I can't argue with your point. I really wish I could. I am trying to be more considerate of other people's perspective.... I think life has been bonking me over the head with that lesson lately. My history says that I am what you say, though. Remind me of this post if I should come down hard on a male newb?
Nice to meetcha!
Spexxie...did you think I said I'm a lummox? :p:
I am disappoint.
:(
Oh well, as they say...meh.
Jim, the one flag she didn't show in her signature line was an all red one. But it should be obvious. Be careful.
And here all this time I thought we were friends?
We are! You are special to me. We are kindred spirits, you and I. If we ever meet, I'm going to hold you down and tickle your feet until you pee!
Or he'll throw you under a bus, given the right circumstances. :lol:
Kidding. Really, kidding. ;)
I am disappoint.
:(
Oh well, as they say...meh.
I'm sorry
so - I'm NOT on the list and she baits me with it?
what does that say about her? IIRC, I was nothing but nice and welcoming to the lady. I thanked her for some interesting posts about new jersey ffs!
I just got fed up when she kept saying she was leaving as we were horrible (for not commenting on her breast cancer thread?) but then she didn't leave which is the hallmark of someone who is ....you know, drama-whoring.
She's probably loving this.
eta - anyway - glad we're friends. :heartpump for you.
She didn't say you were on the list. I assumed someone else had talked to her about you privately
jim, you don't have to apologize to me. You owe me nothing. Except the friendship and respect that you have spoken of. If it's not there, don't speak of it.
I don't understand it, but I don't love you any less.
Of course, as paranoid as I am, I have all kinds of ideas that hurt about what "list" or lists I was on, but it doesn't really matter. You were working on a goal that I can't fathom. It's not really about any of us on that list (which might even be worse than actually being on a list: not even mattering which list you were on, it only mattered to the person hell bent on destruction and division, thinking she had a secret, that she knows more...though we don't know her "trials and tribulations", her quote, she thinks she knows ours, and "us") it's about something that is not my business: your private life.
But she made it public, and made a lot of people feel badly in the process. What does that tell you?
so - I'm NOT on the list and she baits me with it?
She never did say specifically that you were on "the list." But it's possible you were mentioned elsewhere. She was apparently PMing a lot of people. Including me. But I didn't talk about any of you.
She didn't say you were on the list. I assumed someone else had talked to her about you privately
Well that's even better. Join a forum, then immediately start...what? I don't even know what the name for it is.
Jebus Crepes.
She never did say specifically that you were on "the list." But it's possible you were mentioned elsewhere. She was apparently PMing a lot of people. Including me. But I didn't talk about any of you.
ffs (not at you glatt, sorry)
If you received a PM from Dis PRIOR to the blow-up, please raise your hand.
I did not.
I suspect you needed to have a penis. I could be wrong.
This is making me ill. What a crock.
Oh, no. Mine was post blow-up. She was just answering a question I raised in this thread.
[emilylittella]OK, sorry. Nevermind [/emilylittella]
Imma shut up now. I've said more than enough, as usual.
eta: I'm sorry everyone. I don't help matters. :(
My wife's Mom used to put the kids to bed, and say:
"I don't want to hear another peep out of you tonight"
This round (about lists and who made them and who's on it) goes to BD.
She really poked you kids.
PEEP
personally, I don't think shes a drama queen. I think shes standing up to a crowd. Not an enviable position to be in.
I'm really sorry this has gotten so out of hand, brill.
I agree with this.
It must be quite disconcerting to join a group and have them keep suggesting you're someone from the past pretending to be someone new.
Each of the people who've made such comments probably feels that it was no biggie. Just a single comment, just a single question. But with quite a few people doing it intermittently, from the perspective of Brill, who sees all of those comments as a whole, it must seem like a wall of suspicion.
I also thought she was someone else. I thought she was Bri. because Bri had posted about changing her name, and then BD arrived with her 'Brilliant Disguise'...etc.
Some of the responses to Brill have been less than stellar. At one point a poster actually asked if the lass had been shown the way to the tip jar. Sorry, but I'd feel shit if someone said something like that about me on a new forum.
Much of what's been said has been intended as humour. Unfortunately humour doesn't always click online, and if the person at the centre of it is new then they may not get some of the running gags, or continuing stories.
Though actually a fair few people have been friendly, warm and welcoming, it doesn't take many off-kilter comments to make that friendly stuff fade into the background. Just so much more potent that way.
@ BrilliantDisguise: in answer to your earlier post. Yes, we have had several people coming back in disguise. Usually, these are people who have initially joined specifically for the purposes of trolling/gaming the community. Pensive Pam and Emma both come under that category. Every so often one of them returns in a new guise. Spends a few days getting settled in then starts causing shit with everyone. Y'know, starting fights, using private messages to stir up trouble, attempting to play established members off against each other, that kind of thing.
Very occasionally someone will join, settle in, get to know us and post for awhile and then get 'driven off' by some argument, disagreement or personality clash with an individual dwellar or a particular contingent of dwellars. Often this begins as discussions on politics that go too far. Jill falls into that category. So did Lamplighter but (thankfully) he returned.
Mostly though, the newcomers who arrive here and then claim they've been harshly treated turn out to be the aforementioned trolls. It's happened enough times now that even I am suspicious with newcomers, and I am really not suspicious by nature. I make a conscious effort not to let that slight cynicism affect how I interact with newcomers.
You have wandered into the cellar not so very long after a bout of troublemakers fucking about with the community. Why they do this, i don't know. I know it is a 'thing' though, because we're usually not the only site they've done it with. There have been several occasions where the tone of the trolling has suggested that we may be dealing with something more worrying. On those occasions a little research has turned up the same posters on multiple forums, often leaving a trail of bans and suspensions, and in at least two cases the posters have had genuine mental illness or distress. (PP and SE)
We have been here for a very long time. You cannot exist as long as we have without occasionally becoming a target for something. You cannot be a target as often as we have been (for both individual and group shennanigans) without taking on a degree of skepticism.
Some of what you've said and done during your short time here has rung bells with a few people. That's all.
If you actually look at the way people have responded to you, you'll find it's a mixed bag. Well, we're a mixed bunch. There are people here with whom I can barely keep a civil tongue (finger?). There are others to whom I'll happily pour out my inner thoughts.
I'd really like it if you stayed. I think you fit in really well. Which is to say you draw just as much positive attention and just as much animosity as the next poster. That's to be expected with a group as mixed as we are.
jim, you don't have to apologize to me. You owe me nothing. Except the friendship and respect that you have spoken of. If it's not there, don't speak of it.
I don't understand it, but I don't love you any less.
Of course, as paranoid as I am, I have all kinds of ideas that hurt about what "list" or lists I was on, but it doesn't really matter. You were working on a goal that I can't fathom. It's not really about any of us on that list (which might even be worse than actually being on a list: not even mattering which list you were on, it only mattered to the person hell bent on destruction and division, thinking she had a secret, that she knows more...though we don't know her "trials and tribulations", her quote, she thinks she knows ours, and "us") it's about something that is not my business: your private life.
But she made it public, and made a lot of people feel badly in the process. What does that tell you?
The timing of this is relevant, I think. I wrote that list as a tongue in cheek reassurance that she was doing fine fitting in.
Prior to this situation/debacle .... And this has snowballed so quickly.... She's really a very normal and 'similar to us' kind of a person to talk to. Seems to me, she got mad, said something about it, and decided to leave. Now, we all know how hard it is to leave this particular forum .... AND, if you're in the limelight/crosshairs It's clearly much more difficult. Can we just ease up a bit on the name calling and judgement... On both sides of this.... And let her start over if she wants to? Brill, this is a great family, and worth the effort it takes to find your place in it. My word on that.
Great post Dana.
BigV, put that one in your hall of fame.
Oh, lol,.....I swear I was writing my post before I saw yours Dana....
But if someone says 'get a room' ....i'm buying!
I thought brill was fitting in fine but I don't agree that anyone's comments to or about her should have received the amount of venom she included. No one knows anyone on the internet. These are not people here she knows or should care about enough to say fuck you to... JMO
I think Jim covered that with the 'standing up to a crowd' comment.
No one response was bad enough to warrant venom. But taken as a package I can see how Brill mayhave felt very much under attack. Clearly her response to being attacked is to give back more than she was hit with. Fair enough.
[eta] Trouble is. We are each seeing our individual responses and Brill's individual responses to us. From her perspective we're a group. We're a mass of not-yet-knowns.
And once again, it's the big meanie weanies faults. So "she got mad" but that's OK.
No one else is to get mad back and respond?
How's this: one of your meanie weanies has had enough of finger pointing and the pretense of 'so fair and caring' which is actually meanness personified, not to mention how it belies the talk of friendship and love.
How's this?: I cry EVERY SINGLE DAY. And yet, I come to the Cellar for laughs, and whatever it is I'm going through comes through, because some of you so called FAIR people can be anything but fair, so I respond...but I'm a big meanie weanie because I call something as I see it?
I remember finding out how a certain beloved dwellar has some mental issues. AFTER the fact, I heard: well gee, I wish I'd been nicer.
So WHERE do you get who is to be treated with kid gloves and who gets to be pointed out as a meanie weanie by the saints.
I come to the cellar because I'm lonely. I'm leaving because my 'friends' here make me feel more alone and isolated than my actual life.
There, how's that? Perfect for you, i"M sure. YOu can be rid of me AND tell me to quit being a martyr.
I'm so tired of trying to fit in, myself. Maybe BD or LR, whoever it is, had the right idea.
They both accomplished the same goal.
Meek and innocent and downtrodden my ass.
I don't feel as if I was part of the group of "thought of attackers" My comments were totally benign. If it makes her feel better I will say " stay, you will be assimilated," ;)
Read my post again Infi. I never said anyone was a meanie.
But hey. Way to personalise the fuck out of everything.
Oh, you're far too kind. Fucking PERSONALIZE? WTF do you think your goddam BD was doing? Fuck that!
Thanks Dana. Thanks so fucking much.
Right. That's it. I am done with the histrionics.
You are impossible to interact with Infi.
I don't want you to feel like you have to fit in IM you are perfect as you are:hug:
It makes my day to read your posts...
Right. That's it. I am done with the histrionics.
You are impossible to interact with Infi.
And you're a hypocrite. And meaner than you'll ever believe.
Now go find some red carpet for your less histrionic new friend.
So, me trying to be nice, and more considerate than I have been is a bad thing?
How does it belie talk of love and friendship? I missed that leap... I do love you and think of you as my friend, shaw. What did I say that contradicts that? Because I made a joke list, I've been lying about caring about you?
What can I do to prove my affection for you?
It's a lot easier being a hammer, btw.
Whatever Infinite Monkey.
You're the one who made this about you. You're the one staking out sides (her or you). Imade a considered post putting forward my own take on the situation. I didn't attack you or accuse you of anything.
What i got in response was this:
And once again, it's the big meanie weanies faults. So "she got mad" but that's OK.
No one else is to get mad back and respond?
How's this: one of your meanie weanies has had enough of finger pointing and the pretense of 'so fair and caring' which is actually meanness personified, not to mention how it belies the talk of friendship and love.
How's this?: I cry EVERY SINGLE DAY. And yet, I come to the Cellar for laughs, and whatever it is I'm going through comes through, because some of you so called FAIR people can be anything but fair, so I respond...but I'm a big meanie weanie because I call something as I see it?
I remember finding out how a certain beloved dwellar has some mental issues. AFTER the fact, I heard: well gee, I wish I'd been nicer.
So WHERE do you get who is to be treated with kid gloves and who gets to be pointed out as a meanie weanie by the saints.
I come to the cellar because I'm lonely. I'm leaving because my 'friends' here make me feel more alone and isolated than my actual life.
There, how's that? Perfect for you, i"M sure. YOu can be rid of me AND tell me to quit being a martyr.
I'm so tired of trying to fit in, myself. Maybe BD or LR, whoever it is, had the right idea.
They both accomplished the same goal.
Meek and innocent and downtrodden my ass.
So, basically, anytime I don't simply take your word for it that the girl is bad news. Or try to see what it might be like for a newcomer to our fold, I am apparently betraying you.
But here's the thing. What I said about her reacting to us as a group? Is exactly what you do. From time to time a handful of people get under your skin and then you explode at the entire collective. I am just considering the possibility that this is exactly what BD has just done.
I haven't said she is genuine. I haven't said she isn't. What I've done is consider the possibility that she is, and if so what her experience of us may have been.
Every time a newcomer arrives and there's a little trouble, I consider these things. And every time I do, you take it personally and start flinging shit at me.
Had. Enough.
I dunno if you think I have steel skin or something. It is possible for you to hurt me too.
Somehow that never matters though does it?
Maybe I should be more vehement in my expressions. Then you'd know for sure when you got a hit.
You had enough of me a long time ago. You can tie pretty bows around the shit you sling but that doesn't change the fact that it's shit.
Oh, you think I'd like a little consideration from you? How very fucking human of me.
Why I always thought we'd end up friends, I have no idea. You only see pain if you get to hold up a big sign about how you are uniquely qualified to sense pain.
Now tell me more how much I suck. How I made this about me. I've had enough, too. You are not the moral fucking compass of the cellar.
Yes, it's nice that you give the benefit of the doubt to the new person. That's a good quality you have. But once you decide that another person isn't worthy of such consideration, it's a done deal, isn't it?
*nods*
ok.
For the record. That was a hit. As was the one before.
I dunno if you think I have steel skin or something. It is possible for you to hurt me too.
Somehow that never matters though does it?
Maybe I should be more vehement in my expressions. Then you'd know for sure when you got a hit.
And that's exactly how I feel! I'm not made of steel. I don't know how to reach out and send a PM about how I need someone to show they care.
I have honestly gone back and forth between wanting so desperately for you to like me, and being so mad at you....because I think you don't like me.
Everything in the last couple pages felt like a hit to me...as has many many many posts in the last couple months.
My hangup? Maybe, probably. There is no reason for anyoen to want to hear what my issues are. I know that I lash out. I've admitted it. I'm under some tests by my doc to figure out what exactly is going on in my head. My only issues aren't here, and, believe it or not...I used to be a pretty fine person.
And I"m stuck somewhere between hiding behind my anger, and so much wanting to think someone gives a shit.
Many responses to me feel like hits.
Again, my hangup? Probably.
And it's best for me not to subject everyone to that, wouldn't you say? You're not mind readers, and I can't reach out.
So it's an impasse.
fwiw, I've admired much about you.
Also, I didn't see your post that I just responded to when I posted Post # 336. I'm not completely heartless.
Oh for fuck's sake. Infi. I DO like you. I have ALWAYS liked you. You baffle me at times. But I have never not liked you.
If I didn't like you I wouldn't give a shit what you thought of me. The times when you've blown up at me would have just sailed over my head as meaningless noise.
I made what I thought was a mildly contentious point about us as a group (myself included) and suddenly found myself being lambasted by my friend. Truth now: I was crying a few minutes ago. I don't often cry over internet attacks, but when they come from friends they fucking hurt.
Look. Let's just set this to one side, eh? I honestly didn;t mean any attack on you with my comments about BD. If any of it came across as an attack, I am sorry. It was certainly not my intention to make you feel shit. Really it wasn't.
As to me getting upset: well, I'm in a slightly emotional place right now. Tears come more easily than normal I guess. Just one of those things :p
I've been crying too. In the parking garage. Like a fucking child.
I'm so sorry Dana. Really. I'm such a shit and I'm sorry.
Everything feels personal and my most logical part of myself telling me it's not is no help.
I, so caught up in my crap feelings, and doing something that is the exact opposite of what I always thought made a little special: understanding when people are in pain, and avoiding hurting people I care about, and trying to lift up and not stomp down.
I am so sorry.
Look. Let's just set this to one side, eh? I honestly didn;t mean any attack on you with my comments about BD. If any of it came across as an attack, I am sorry. It was certainly not my intention to make you feel shit. Really it wasn't.
As to me getting upset: well, I'm in a slightly emotional place right now. Tears come more easily than normal I guess. Just one of those things :p
Me too. I'm worried about my health. I want to pull myself up by my bootstraps, but every day I fall at some point or other.
I'm sorry I took it as an attack. My paranoia has reached new highs.
*hugs*
Forget about it now, hon. We all do it. It says nothing about you. All those things you considered makes you a little special are still firmly in place.
Me too. I'm worried about my health. I want to pull myself up by my bootstraps, but every day I fall at some point or other.
I'm sorry I took it as an attack. My paranoia has reached new highs.
That point isn't when you're attempting to pull up by your bootstraps by any chance? :p
Thank you.
You have no idea how many ways you just helped me. For one, I need to be shown that I can be hurtful too, when lashing out from real or intended hurt. I needed to see that. I'm not proud of it.
And for validating my "human-ness."
Hugs back.
Ok, ladies. Now kiss and make up...
And take pictures, 'cause that would be cool. :D
That point isn't when you're attempting to pull up by your bootstraps by any chance? :p
Haggis. :o
Awwww... Good on both you guys :lovers:
Peace.
And watch out for the giraffes.
" Never before have I turned on you
You looked too good to me Your Beady eyes,
they can cut me in two
And I just can't let you be
It's a free-for-all and I heard it said
You can bet your life
Stakes are high and so am I
It's in the air toni-i-ight"
Oooh, Nirvana quoting Ted Nugent. How sexy is that? grrrrrr!
Ooh the DRAMA, it's so exciting! But what I *really* like is when a lot of people are fighting and it's all due to ME ME ME! Let me see how many more I can draw in... oh, this will work:
I have deep secrets about your group! That only I will divulge! Now you NEED me! But I'm going! Because you're a bunch of assholes! Don't ask me about the list again! Unless you really want to! Hint hint!
Now I'm out of here, so you better stop talking about me and my list! If you keep talking about me I will be back to remind you to stop talking about me and I will bring up the list again! You don't know how powerful I am due to this list!
You treat new people like shit and I deserve better so I'm going to insult the crap out of you and try to use everybody against each other! Being nice to new people is the most important thing for a forum! That's why I'm still here trying to drum up shit! Because I like you and I know you have a lot of potential! You better shape up or my list will be coming soon!
I hate you people so much! Try to guess who sent me the list! Won't you hate that person if you are on the list! You'll have a big fight if you are on the list! Try to guess if you are on the list! Maybe you'll fight anyway! Go ahead and fight!
ok that oughta do it now let's sit back and watch the fireworks
ooh wow boom! pretty
UT, you are the Milton Fucking Erickson of forum owners. Dude, you really need to get credentialed and take that shit on the road. Seriously, you can be onbe insightful mf
I wrote the list.
It was intended as humor, and if I could, I would make a couple of changes. Most regrettable are the omissions, naturally. I want to apologize to Brill. I posted what I intended as support for her last night, but I offended her with my choice of words.
My dad used to say that I could fuck up a new crowbar.
Your dad sounds like a tool (Thanks, I'll be here all week. Try the crow, it comes with a slice of humble pie) Remember what my sister always says to me, "Leave humor to the professionals!"
Right. That's it. I am done with the histrionics.
You are impossible to interact with Infi.
That's so British and sexy of you, Dana. Right. That's it.
And you're a hypocrite. And meaner than you'll ever believe.
Now go find some red carpet for your less histrionic new friend.
Note to self: Don't piss this woman off.
So, me trying to be nice, and more considerate than I have been is a bad thing?
How does it belie talk of love and friendship? I missed that leap... I do love you and think of you as my friend, shaw. What did I say that contradicts that? Because I made a joke list, I've been lying about caring about you?
What can I do to prove my affection for you?
You know exactly what to do, Jim. Road trip!!!
Ok, ladies. Now kiss and make up...
And take pictures, 'cause that would be cool. :D
Way cool.
And watch out for the giraffes.
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Yeah, thanks foot. Turn the knife.
Dana & IM - get a room. :)
I just read like 7 pages. This has been an incredible shit fest. Damn you guys are like a pack of wolves on a baby doe. Right up till you started feeding off of each other. Cannibalism is rather ugly to watch in slow motion.
and A Blessed day to all.
Oh, Classic, why Bless your heart. :p
Don't let the terrorists win!
Ladies and Gentleman, let me present to you:
Together again, for the first time....it'sssssss, The Dana and Infi Show. Starrrrrringggg...DANA AND INFI.
(the crowd goes wild)
:)
I love dogs.
I want to shoot my neighbors dogs to make a point.
About thirty posts ago, I was thinking we should just get jim to post his list and be done with it, but now I'm thinking, who really gives a fuck. Most of us already know what the other regs think of us don't we? Some of us are in transitionary phases of our cellar lives, so the lines might be a bit fuzzy there, but hopefully we all still know where we stand with each other right?
I wonder what BD is thinking about this all now. i'm sure she's still reading us and our in house fighting (which happens fairly often because there are a lot of strong personalities here).
Anyway, I just wanted to say to Jim; don't give up on being the new you. I'm sure I'm not the only one cheering you on from the sidelines hoping you get to your journeys end feeling better for the trip. xx
I actually have no idea what people think of me. With a few exceptions.
Really? Do you at least think you know what they think, even if they haven't specifically said so?
"Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
We're so glad you could attend
Come inside! Come inside!
There behind a glass is a real blade of grass
be careful as you pass.
Move along! Move along!
Come inside, the show's about to start
guaranteed to blow your head apart
Rest assured you'll get your money's worth
The greatest show in Heaven, Hell or Earth.
You've got to see the show, it's a dynamo.
You've got to see the show, it's rock and roll ....
Right before your eyes we pull laughter from the skies
And he laughs until he cries then he dies then he dies
Come inside the shows about to start
Guaranteed to blow your head apart
You gotta see the show
It's a dynamo
You gotta see the show
It's rock and roll!"
About thirty posts ago, I was thinking we should just get jim to post his list and be done with it, but now I'm thinking, who really gives a fuck. Most of us already know what the other regs think of us don't we? Some of us are in transitionary phases of our cellar lives, so the lines might be a bit fuzzy there, but hopefully we all still know where we stand with each other right?
I wonder what BD is thinking about this all now. i'm sure she's still reading us and our in house fighting (which happens fairly often because there are a lot of strong personalities here).
Anyway, I just wanted to say to Jim; don't give up on being the new you. I'm sure I'm not the only one cheering you on from the sidelines hoping you get to your journeys end feeling better for the trip. xx
^^wss
nwss.
I think the new Jim is a neutered shadow of his former self, who -in the absence of testosterone- lets his dick lead the way instead of his balls.
NJ? that's close enough for a lunchtime shag, no?
He's the star pupil of the "good boys are those who behave like girls" school of thought. WTG. Let's make an honor roll bumper sticker for his mom.
"Being a hammer is easier"?
Telling the truth is easier than lying.....
At least now I understand why my comments were totally ignored in the "Hi, I'm a Newbie" thread (and others), and why some of my perfectly reasonable comments were viewed as incendiary and why I suddenly became oppressor #1......
jealous bitch, huh? Unwilling to share the limelight/attention/however that comment was worded? Have you seen how often I've been around recently? huh? How many threads I've started? And compared it to the good old days? I have no limelight to be possesive over. I haven't even managed to upload photos for the pic comp I started! I feed off the posts of others right now.... I have been sad that I've been way too busy to participate in the cellar much, but I guess it's a good thing today. also, um WTF?
If BD was all about communication and understanding, how come I didn't get a "why do you seems so aggressive/mad at me?" visitor message or PM?
oh, and here's my "hijack" of
her breast cancer thread
[slight hijack] OK so I'm supposed to wear pink to the swim meet on Thursday b/c it's a BC pink-out. Those of you who have been here a while (a) know what i went through with my friend who got a stage 4ish diagnosis and (b) know I hate pink. and maybe (c) know I only wear black. I do the team spirit things -I will even wear colored team shirts for the duration of the game. Sometimes. But I don't wanna wear pink. And I'd have to buy something -I'd rather donate the $$. And I hate the concept "if you don't wear pink, you're pro breast-cancer" which seems to be implied. Should I really oughta wear pink, or is it ok to wear black and claim I'm in mourning for my friend's boob when challenged?
Why don't you just wear a breast cancer pin or something small like that? I don't think you should feel you have to wear pink.
...It's high school..... I'mm'a probably be the only non-conformist. Well that and the dad still in suit and tie......
maybe I can take of the kids'...... oooh ooh I got it, I'mm'a take Hector's webkinz Eagle in a pink shirt :) (they are the eagles)
thanks, you make me think hard enough to find a good solution
Yeah. malicious threadjacking for sure.
OK I'm done. Kinda done with this whole forum right now. But, you know, I've met some of you, some of you are OK, I kinda wanna keep sharing stuff with you. So I ain't gonna quit in a hissy fit, because I'll be back. But yes, I'm pissed. And it's funny because I remember two other huge internal bust-ups where in each case, one dwellar felt that -as the "family" we, other long-term dwellars, should have their backs when they got irrationally attacked by newbs. And yet today, one of those dwellars is actively refuelling the newb. Guess he found Jebus/FSM/HisDick and that makes everything OK.
You are calling me a liar, monster? Why?
I don't think Jim is being led by his dick. That had nothing to do with what my post was about.
My perspective is that he's trying to be more understanding of other people's faults, and I think that's a good thing. We could all do that once in a while. none of us are perfect.
Don't get all huffy monster. Things were just getting better between us.
C'mere...give us a kiss. :hugnkiss:
You are calling me a liar, monster? Why?
no. hypocritical and weak.
you mean the truth is easier than lying comment?
It was a demonstration that the hardest option is not always the best/morally correct one. One doesn't always have to suffer to be beautiful.
I don't think Jim is being led by his dick. That had nothing to do with what my post was about.
My perspective is that he's trying to be more understanding of other people's faults, and I think that's a good thing. We could all do that once in a while. none of us are perfect.
Don't get all huffy monster. Things were just getting better between us.
C'mere...give us a kiss. :hugnkiss:
I really should have only quoted the last sentence of your post. The rest is irrelevant to mine. Understanding people's fault is fine. Excusing them just because we understand them... not so much. ymmv.
I'm a mom. I'm not alone in this. Many dwellars will know this feeling. I try to be momma bear for my kids, because that's my job, but I am sometimes amazed by how much other moms will defend and excuse their kids' totally unacceptable behaviour. Like momma bear gone bad. I just can't momma bear to that level. if my kid does something bad (and this is not hypothetical) I will be there for them and defend them to the best of my ability, but i will never lie and say they were innocent when they were not. That to me feels the same as saying, OK, we understand the faults, so let's excuse them and carry on as normal.
Huffy? Nope. It really isn't worth the effort it would take me. Disappointed? Yup.
I really should have only quoted the last sentence of your post. The rest is irrelevant to mine. Understanding people's fault is fine. Excusing them just because we understand them... not so much. ymmv.
I'm a mom. I'm not alone in this. Many dwellars will know this feeling. I try to be momma bear for my kids, because that's my job, but I am sometimes amazed by how much other moms will defend and excuse their kids' totally unacceptable behaviour. Like momma bear gone bad. I just can't momma bear to that level. if my kid does something bad (and this is not hypothetical) I will be there for them and defend them to the best of my ability, but i will never lie and say they were innocent when they were not. That to me feels the same as saying, OK, we understand the faults, so let's excuse them and carry on as normal.
Huffy? Nope. It really isn't worth the effort it would take me. Disappointed? Yup.
I don't see why anyone should need to feel like a mum to anyone here. All he said was he kinda liked BD in the first place and that he was trying to figure out why she'd gone all weird. Why should anyone need to take it further than that? Why do people have to take the next step and 'go all weird' themselves? Isn't it an indication of strength if one is able to avoid becoming what we criticize?
I dunno. I just don't see why it's so wrong of him not to 'be a hammer' to this newby who for all we know, might have very similar issues to many of us here. Does that mean she deserves less understanding? *shrugs*
eta: When people change their attitude or things like that, (bear with me, I'm just getting this idea sorted in my head) our expectations aren't always ready for it, so we get cranky about our own expectations not being met. Maybe this isn't jim's issue at all?
no. hypocritical and weak.
you mean the truth is easier than lying comment?
It was a demonstration that the hardest option is not always the best/morally correct one. One doesn't always have to suffer to be beautiful.
yeah...that last part sounds like bullshit. You called me a liar. I never lied. I was trying to make peace...
Yes...i was interested in possibly meeting brill in meat space. Was that my dick? How very base of you to illuminate that. Thanks. Youre a great friend.
I TOLD YOU THIS PLACE WAS A SOAP OPERA.
You've just used up three seasons worth of plot in one bloody thread. The writers will freak. Gotta stretch the drama out, peeps.
Listen mate! Just be bloody grateful it hasn't spread all over the freaking forum. YET!!!
I hope my posting here right now doesn't do more harm than good. But I just needed to say that I am very very sorry for everything that transpired. I take my share of the blame in this as well. There are many things I shouldn't have said or done during this.
Please don't be mad at Jim. I re-read the PM with the list and it was all said in a joking manner. I had received what I perceived to be a not very nice PM about my signature. Prior to that I had started to feel a little unwelcome here and then I get that PM. Jim was just trying to be a good guy and make me feel welcome. That's all. He didn't mean any harm to any of you. After that then some not so nice things were said after I agreed about having avatars. I wasn't trying to change this place, I was just stating my opinion on it. So once I saw some things that I perceived as mean, things escalated. I guess I felt backed into a corner and I came out scratching.
So please, don't let this ruin any of the friendships you have all acquired over the years. They are true friendships if your feeling are hurt and shouldn't be dropped without trying. We all need friends in this world.
I won't post here anymore because I think too many here have a bad taste in their mouths with me now, and that's ok. But please, don't let this get in the way of your friendships. I never ever intended for any of this to happen. I mean that.
Take care.
You should stick around BD. We're just like a big italian family. We yell and scream at each other from time to time, but we still feel the love. Don't you?
IMO, Jim was being kind. Seems like that is a foreign concept for some to grasp.
Honest need not only be brutal. There can be understanding and acceptance as well.
Whatever works for you, for him for whomever.
As one who didn't really post here, from the outside it did seem like a cumulative effort to attack, for lack of a better word.
Jim, do your thing man. I, for one, am proud of you trying to recognize your faults/weaknesses/whatever and attempting to improve yourself.
oh and what Ali said.
(damn if I could just afford to fly to Aussieland) ;)
yeah...that last part sounds like bullshit. You called me a liar. I never lied. I was trying to make peace...
Yes...i was interested in possibly meeting brill in meat space. Was that my dick? How very base of you to illuminate that. Thanks. Youre a great friend.
I didn't call you a liar. I think you're trying hard to be something that you're not. I am a great friend. The kind you don't always appreciate.
oh and what Ali said.
(damn if I could just afford to fly to Aussieland) ;)
haha, I think you're all talk classic. ;)
I didn't call you a liar. I think you're trying hard to be something that you're not. I am a great friend. The kind you don't always appreciate.
I'm trying to see things from other people's pot of view before I judge them. I've been knocked around a bit because I have failed to do that in the past. You did call me a liar.
I hope my posting here right now doesn't do more harm than good. But I just needed to say that I am very very sorry for everything that transpired. I take my share of the blame in this as well. There are many things I shouldn't have said or done during this.
Please don't be mad at Jim. I re-read the PM with the list and it was all said in a joking manner. I had received what I perceived to be a not very nice PM about my signature. Prior to that I had started to feel a little unwelcome here and then I get that PM. Jim was just trying to be a good guy and make me feel welcome. That's all. He didn't mean any harm to any of you. After that then some not so nice things were said after I agreed about having avatars. I wasn't trying to change this place, I was just stating my opinion on it. So once I saw some things that I perceived as mean, things escalated. I guess I felt backed into a corner and I came out scratching.
So please, don't let this ruin any of the friendships you have all acquired over the years. They are true friendships if your feeling are hurt and shouldn't be dropped without trying. We all need friends in this world.
I won't post here anymore because I think too many here have a bad taste in their mouths with me now, and that's ok. But please, don't let this get in the way of your friendships. I never ever intended for any of this to happen. I mean that.
Take care.
Now that's the post that makes me hope you'll eventually come back. Hell of a way to get to know us better, though......
I'm trying to see things from other people's pot of view before I judge them. I've been knocked around a bit because I have failed to do that in the past. You did call me a liar.
well that must be a case of "if the cap fits", because that's not how I see it.
I didn't call you a liar. I think you're trying hard to be something that you're not. I am a great friend. The kind you don't always appreciate.
This isn't the time to be channeling Annie Wilkes.
I'M JOKING! but it did remind me of the movie, Misery.
well that must be a case of "if the cap fits", because that's not how I see it.
Whatever works for you, I guess. Insult me, call me names, then deny it. We'll jus agree to disagree then, shall we?
Who fucking hijacked the "Confession Time" thread.
I WANT ANSWERS
I walked into the drama just a few min ago so I know I have a ways to go, but this made me haggis.
Whatever works for you, I guess. Insult me, call me names, then deny it. We'll jus agree to disagree then, shall we?
No.
I am looking for the thread where I tell 3 foot that I like him...you still there, footy?
nwss.
I think the new Jim is a neutered shadow of his former self, who -in the absence of testosterone- lets his dick lead the way instead of his balls.
NJ? that's close enough for a lunchtime shag, no?
He's the star pupil of the "good boys are those who behave like girls" school of thought. WTG. Let's make an honor roll bumper sticker for his mom.
"Being a hammer is easier"?
Telling the truth is easier than lying....
Ok then.
All this shit right here? You stand by this assessment? And you're my friend too?
where does that say you're a liar?
I kinda thought we were friends too... if we weren't I wouldn't even have bothered to explain why I was pissed off.
You're pissed because iv turned into a pussy? Is that about right?
the last two sentences....
as I explained before (obviously not well enough)....
truth is easier than lying
was a parallell.
you defended the "new you" by saying it's harder than the "old you".
often the right road is harder, but that isn't always the case. truth is easier than lying. Doesn't mean it's the wrong path......
Yeah, but it sounds like bullshit because the truth us plainly harder than lying. Not the other way around.
It's easy to make a quick judgement of someone and belittle them. It's hard to see things through their eyes first.
You say I've lost my balls. That was easy to say. Hard to admit that you spoke hastily and regret it when you see that it hurt me, though, innit?
huh, no.
we should probably take this off board, but no, after what you did to me, I didn't figure you could even care what I said. Seemed like you were more interested in new skirt than old frienships
But you have a different idea of the truth. if lying was easy polygraphs wouldn't work. Far more stress is created by lying. I guess some people do find that easier than telling the truth, but that's generally not the norm.
oh, and by the way, is this the place to confess that I want to be a Boy called Norman?
It's a short list, and it really was made quickly and as a joke. I was just trying to help her fit in. She reached out to me when she started to feel excluded, and I was trying to tell her not to take offense or worry overmuch about one persons opinion...
I'm not happy about her bringing it up in public, and using it as bait or leverage, but then again...I did write it and will own up to it. I am still trying to salvage the possibility of being friends with her privately. I love all of you...my cyber family...even the ones on the asshole list. And it's tough to see friends fight with each other. It certainly seems improbable that she will be able to recover gracefully from this bloodbath, but I will still try to help her do that if I can.
Bri, you're not on the list. As I said, the omissions are the worst part of it. I forgot glatt too.
Monster is on all 3 lists. I'm on 2. So please, don't take it seriously.... It was but a jape.
And UT, I can't argue with your point. I really wish I could. I am trying to be more considerate of other people's perspective.... I think life has been bonking me over the head with that lesson lately. My history says that I am what you say, though. Remind me of this post if I should come down hard on a male newb?
Excuse me! Where was I on this list?
I think you're wanted in the MIA thread, MTP.
I TOLD YOU THIS PLACE WAS A SOAP OPERA.
You've just used up three seasons worth of plot in one bloody thread. The writers will freak. Gotta stretch the drama out, peeps.
Sweeps week.
Reading through the thread I almost cried when dana and infi were all hating on each other, and now they're all making up and I actually am crying. Fuck this.
What's going on around here? Is Aunt Irma visiting everyone?
I think you're wanted in the MIA thread, MTP.
Well, if I'm not wanted in this thread....*huffs off*
*Ahem*
So...how is everyone?
Whole lot of huffin' going on.
Other than that, pretty good.
Sorry, MTB, APB, not MIA.
BrilliantDisguise - Come back and play with us again in the Word Association thread (a.k.a. the Haute Cellar) where the worst thing that happens is someone points out a funny typo in a hasty reply. I like being where no one is saying that I'm just a silly girl for the responses in my posts. SEE YOU THERE! :cheerldr:
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Sorry, MTB, APB, not MIA.
I need to change my name now. MoreThanBuxom?
I need to change my name now. MoreThanBuxom?
This made me laugh. What I want to know is why a buxom or even more than buxom woman can't still be pretty or more than even? ;)
I TOLD YOU THIS PLACE WAS A SOAP OPERA.
You've just used up three seasons worth of plot in one bloody thread. The writers will freak. Gotta stretch the drama out, peeps.
LIFE is a Soap Opera.
Or a Friends episode. I keep thinking of one in particular where Ross was all confused because he was with Julie but was in love with Rachel. So he and the guys made a list of pros and cons. Which Rachel found.
RACH: [near tears] No, you don't, Ross. Imagine the worst things you think about yourself. Now, how would you feel if the one person that you trusted the most in the world not only thinks them too, but actually uses them as reasons not to be with you.
ROSS: No, but, but I wanna be with you in spite of all those things.
RACH: Oh, well, that's, that's mighty big of you, Ross. [to the others] I said don't go!
ROSS: You know what? You know what? If, things were the other way around, there's nothing you could put on a list that would ever make me not want to be with you.
RACH: Well, then, I guess that's the difference between us. See, I'd never make a list.
This list thing...well, it was hurtful. So, jim made a mistake. I still consider him a friend.
And I think monster is a friend to jim. Friends will tell you what they think, not just blow smoke up your ass.
Well, I just wanted to say those last few things. It's been on my mind.
Now I think I'll go PM MoreThanBuxom. This seems like a Dwellar I need to get to know!
I don't know. I'm sad. But we're all stronger than this latest tear in the fabric, aren't we?
yes, IM, we are.
when I needed you guys you were here. You always are. I believe you always will be.
I actually have no idea what people think of me. With a few exceptions.
I am looking for the thread where I tell 3 foot that I like him...you still there, footy?
I'm always pleased when I see that foot has made a new post. They are always good. He posts about interesting things, whether it's shooting woodchucks from his dining room, or just making a joke about something in a thread. His interests closely mirror my own, so I'm always glad to hear about his latest compulsion, whether it's home improvement, bike tuning, photography, boat building, varmint hunting, or just a reminder of the difference between jealousy and envy. The guy is sharp and funny.
foot is the Ladies Man of the Cellar. All the women want him, all the men want to be him. :lol:
(Which is to say, foot is really funny and cool and if he doesn't know what people think he's just not paying attention.) :)
I need to change my name now. MoreThanBuxom?
No, no - mountain bike.
I'm always pleased when I see that foot has made a new post. They are always good. He posts about interesting things, whether it's shooting woodchucks from his dining room, or just making a joke about something in a thread. His interests closely mirror my own, so I'm always glad to hear about his latest compulsion, whether it's home improvement, bike tuning, photography, boat building, varmint hunting, or just a reminder of the difference between jealousy and envy. The guy is sharp and funny.
And he spearheaded the Cheeseburgers for Skinny Girls movement.
I will always respect him for taking that unpopular (but vital) stance.
He's three of my favourite feet in the whole Cellar.
I don't know about the whole cheeseburger thing, but I have to tell you lot about an idea my husband had.
The biggest gainer. Put a bunch of weight challenged people in a house and see who can gain the most weight. Maybe the cheeseburger thing could help.
I would be SO pissed off watching that show:
(crunch crunch celery crunch crunch carrot stick...fucking bitches, fuck you fuck you...crunch crunch crunch celery...is it too late to order a pizza? fuck fuck fuck.)
:lol:
I actually have no idea what people think of me. With a few exceptions.
Same here.
I would be SO pissed off watching that show:
(crunch crunch celery crunch crunch carrot stick...fucking bitches, fuck you fuck you...crunch crunch crunch celery...is it too late to order a pizza? fuck fuck fuck.)
:lol:
Yeah me too, while in my mind, being the liberal that I am, feeling sorry for them because you know, some people just can't...gain...weight.
Here you go. Have some of mine. :)
Yeah me too, while in my mind, being the liberal that I am, feeling sorry for them because you know, some people just can't...gain...weight.
Here you go. Have some of mine. :)
True. I do understand it's a struggle for some people.
But not for ME! :p:
About the whole, what do people think of me thing?
I give up on really caring. Not in a bad, spit the dummy type of way. Just really, people will think what they think, and if being me is a problem for them, then I can't really do much about that, and if being me makes them like me, well, I can't really help that either.
What am I going to do if someone doesn't like me anyway? Change? For them?
True. I do understand it's a struggle for some people.
But not for ME! :p:
Me either g/f
I dunno. I kind of want people to like me. But I also kind of don't give a fuck either...if that makes sense? That is to say...as long as most of the people I like also like me, I am happy.* But if people don't like me, I'm highly unlikely to change in order to court their liking.
I find I like most people here most of the time. That's...well, that's kind of why I'm here. If I didn't like most of you, most of the time, why would I choose to spend so much time here?
*the extent to which i believe this to be true is variable according to where on the scale of confidence I happen to be sitting on any one day :p
OH sure it's nice if people like you. Makes life easier in a way, but does it really matter. Does what you want to achieve really depend on your popularity? Probably not much for any of us unless we're in for a public vote or something.
I know my major goal is just to be a great parent, and the only people who have to even remotely like me for that is my family, and I know even they don't like me sometimes because of the decisions I make, but I console myself with knowing that'll pass. ;)
I have a deep-seated need to be liked, coupled with a knack for pushing people away before they get too close (this may be that I was told once, and again it's back to the worst things you think about yourself, that if anyone REALLY knew me they wouldn't like me. This was back in the day when I seemed to have a million friends and a million admirers. This comment brought to surface all I'd unknowingly been telling myself for years, coming from a person I loved more than breathing. Devastating.)
It's a painful place to be, and results in lashing out followed by contrite shame.
As Dana said, a lot of this depends on my level of self-confidence on any given day. Which varies like the weather.
I think it was more of a concern to me when I didn't particularly like myself. I sometimes wish i could go back in time, and just drop this shit into my 20 year old head :p
Yeah, I used to wish I was one of the cool kids here, but now I know it doesn't matter. None of you bastards are cool anyway...cept for maybe lookout. He's pretty cool, but he doesn't even post anymore. :(
Yeah, I used to wish I was one of the cool kids here, but now I know it doesn't matter. None of you bastards are cool anyway...
there is something wrong with the logic here.
anyway.
I'm fukkin' cool.
:D
He's out occupying Wall Street.
He's three of my favourite feet in the whole Cellar.
I dunno. I'm still disappointed to find out that he only has two feet. :eyebrow:
I dunno. I'm still disappointed to find out that he only has two feet. :eyebrow:
2 feet is plenty for anyone ;)
Oh and I'm way cool :D
huh, no.
we should probably take this off board, but no, after what you did to me, I didn't figure you could even care what I said. Seemed like you were more interested in new skirt than old friendships
I apologize for what you (all...well, some...) are imagining I said about you. I really didn't say anything specific about anyone. I do care about the friendships I have here. I should not have, even jokingly, swayed a new person's opinions about other people privately. I should have done it publicly if I was going to do it at all. At least you'd be able to defend yourselves.
I trust that Brill won't actually use that list to form her opinions about the people here. She's clearly experienced enough with forums to know better.
Anyway,... it won't happen again.
Some forums have "Newbies - must read this " threads.
Maybe TheCellar needs one too.
First Rule: "There are no rules, except those that apply to jimhelm"
First Rule of Engagement: " Pick an unsuspecting opponent
Corollary 1: "Attack, then withdraw while fights flare
Corollary 2: "Attack, but select a different opponent
Corollary 3: "Plead innocence and shift blame elsewhere
Corollary 4: "Plead victim, or change the topic
Corollary 5: "Threaten to leave
Corollary 6: "Display conciliation, not contrition
Corollary 7: "Lurk, but return to renew attacks
There are absolutely NO Rules in The Cellar (except Rule #1)
Rule 2: Any Dwellar proposing Rules may be known as the "TheAAU" (TheAssAmongUs)
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Really? Do you at least think you know what they think, even if they haven't specifically said so?
Actually, no. I think it's from too many years of having people piss on my shoes then tell me it's raining. One begins to doubt one's ability to interpret things.
I TOLD YOU THIS PLACE WAS A SOAP OPERA.
You've just used up three seasons worth of plot in one bloody thread. The writers will freak. Gotta stretch the drama out, peeps.
esnicker
I didn't call you a liar. I think you're trying hard to be something that you're not. I am a great friend. The kind you don't always appreciate.
"I didn't call you a liar, you fucking liar." Would have been much funnier, but then, you didn't ask me, did you?
Whatever works for you, I guess. Insult me, call me names, then deny it. We'll jus agree to disagree then, shall we?
No.
Damn, the make-up sex is gonna be fucking hot! I'd love to be a fly on the wall. A fly on the wall with an HD camera and a satellite uplink and Pay per view.
I am looking for the thread where I tell 3 foot that I like him...you still there, footy?
Wow! Swoon.
What's going on around here? Is Aunt Irma visiting everyone?
esnicker snicker
I'm always pleased when I see that foot has made a new post. They are always good. He posts about interesting things, whether it's shooting woodchucks from his dining room, or just making a joke about something in a thread. His interests closely mirror my own, so I'm always glad to hear about his latest compulsion, whether it's home improvement, bike tuning, photography, boat building, varmint hunting, or just a reminder of the difference between jealousy and envy. The guy is sharp and funny.
Well, the feeling is mutual, Glatt.
foot is the Ladies Man of the Cellar. All the women want him, all the men want to be him. :lol:
(Which is to say, foot is really funny and cool and if he doesn't know what people think he's just not paying attention.) :)
You're a peach. A peach with a deep-seated need to be liked, coupled with a knack for pushing people away before they get too close (this may be that I was told once, and again it's back to the worst things you think about yourself, that if anyone REALLY knew me they wouldn't like me. This was back in the day when I seemed to have a million friends and a million admirers. This comment brought to surface all I'd unknowingly been telling myself for years, coming from a person I loved more than breathing. Devastating.)
BUT< a peach none the less. And you're OUR peach.
He's three of my favourite feet in the whole Cellar.
More Swooning.
Yeah, I used to wish I was one of the cool kids here, but now I know it doesn't matter. None of you bastards are cool anyway...cept for maybe lookout. He's pretty cool, but he doesn't even post anymore. :(
Too Cool For School
there is something wrong with the logic here.
The food is lousy and the portions are so small?
I dunno. I'm still disappointed to find out that he only has two feet. :eyebrow:
ashamed at my deception, how can the trust be re-built?
2 feet is plenty for anyone ;)
Oh and I'm way cool :D
You could change your name to Jolly Rancher
Anyway,... it won't happen again.
More's the pity.
Wow, awesome ego boost, it was almost like a subliminal post whoring thread hijack.
Now, I should get back to procrastinating.
2 feet is plenty for anyone ;)
You mean inches, don't you? Don't you mean two inches?
Not one commented on my inventive use of the 70's British Rock Band, Emerson Lake and Palmer's fabulous Karn Evil # 9 part ll from the album Brain Salad Surgery. :eyebrow:
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Not one commented on my inventive use of the 70's British Rock Band, Emerson Lake and Palmer's fabulous Karn Evil # 9 part ll from the album Brain Salad Surgery. :eyebrow:
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No, I noticed that right away but I had already swooned over your Ted Nugent reference in another thread so I didn't want to seem all desperate and stalkerishly sycophantic. Wait, you're a dog owner. You'd probably like that...
It was your reply I wanted :hug: not many get my eclectic musical taste. As for the dog comment....
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Now if you'll excuse me, I need to post a giant mind-blowing annoying signature. kthx.
Could you choose another color besides Blue? We need to dress the place up a bit.
It was your reply I wanted :hug: not many get my eclectic musical taste. As for the dog comment....
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Oh Nirvana, you know you're the only former stripper veterinarian miniature guernsy/ mega chihuahua breeder for me.:blush:
Mega chihuahua ... can you imagine? All that nervous energy and massive overconfidence ... weighing 200 pounds? God help us.
Mega chihuahua ... can you imagine? All that nervous energy and massive overconfidence ... weighing 200 pounds? God help us.
200 pounds? pft! That's merely a Jumbo chihuahua. Nirvana has a line on Mega Chihuahuas:
That's the biggest frigging chihuahua I've ever seen. Holy crap.
Oh that cow is so CUTE.
I'm tired of being envious of Nirvana. Just plain tired of it! (Or is that 'jealous'? Foot, when do we get to use 'jealous'?)
Just kidding. But I do love cows. :)
"Mmmmm, this is some good hand!"
I'm tired of being envious of Nirvana. Just plain tired of it! (Or is that 'jealous'? Foot, when do we get to use 'jealous'?)
If you came over and cuddled with Nirvana's cow, then Nirvana would get to be jealous. :)
Well that doesn't help my pickle head!
Let me try: if it's not mine, I envy it. If it is mine, and someone else cuddles it, it's jealousy? So it's a matter of the possessor?
:biggrindu
That's right. If it's someone else's, you envy it. If it's yours, you're jealous of it.
SamIam has been missing for about the last week. I hope she's alright.
I am jealous of IM's envy.
My peanuts envy?
Yeah, I've been missing Sam too!
mnemonic cliche:
Jealously guarded
Jealous:
1. feeling resentment against someone because of that person's rivalry, success, or advantages (often followed by of): He was jealous of his rich brother.
2. feeling resentment because of another's success, advantage, etc. (often followed by of): He was jealous of his brother's wealth.
3. characterized by or proceeding from suspicious fears or envious resentment: a jealous rage; jealous intrigues.
4. inclined to or troubled by suspicions or fears of rivalry, unfaithfulness, etc., as in love or aims: a jealous husband.
5. solicitous or vigilant in maintaining or guarding something: The American people are jealous of their freedom.
Envy:
1. a feeling of discontent or covetousness with regard to another's advantages, success, possessions, etc.
2. an object of envious feeling: Her intelligence made her the envy of her classmates.
3. Obsolete. ill will.
Either word can be used regarding other people's possessions. But envy only really relates to other people's stuff and is more about coveting.
Where's the entry for jealous bitch?
Bitchy? There is nothing on the label for BITCHY!!
Where's the entry for jealous bitch?
- what men call smart women who take the time to point out when men's dicks are doing the thinking for them. Also used by the women who were the cause of so called 'thinking' dick.
OMG. I go away for a week and look what you guys get up to.
[shakes head in disbelief]
Aren't you feeling the love limey? lol
*shuffes*
video or it didn't happen.
SamIam has been missing for about the last week. I hope she's alright.
TY! I've been around. The Bate's Motel had its Internet go down, so I couldn't post from work like I usually do. I can't believe how long this thread has become since I last checked. Good grief! I'm not even going to go back and read this entire thread. Life's too short. Right? ;)
oh no, Its definitely worth a read. Go back and read the entire obamanation thread too
;)
That and word association.
Oooooh! Word association! I think I'll go post something there right now!
I sort my M&M's according to color, and then eat them in ascending order from least to most.
What?
What kind of freak are you? You should eat them from most to least, since the least are more scarce and precious. Save the best for last.
I sort flavoured sweets and eat them in order from least favourite, to most.
Lemon/ white ones first. Green or lime ones last.
I also save the best bit of my dinner til last.
What kind of freak are you? You should eat them from most to least, since the least are more scarce and precious. Save the best for last.
And chew the colors you like better on the right side.
When you eat a PB&J sandwich, do you have the PB side down or the jelly side down?
What kind of freak are you? You should eat them from most to least, since the least are more scarce and precious. Save the best for last.
Impossible! If you start with the mostests, you're halfway through eating them and realise they've become the leastests, and you have to switch to the new mostests.
This way lies madness! Madness, I tell you, MADNESSSS!
no no no, this is all wrong: what you want to create the largest distance from eating the same color again so that you get the best mix of flavors possible.
Impossible! If you start with the mostests, you're halfway through eating them and realise they've become the leastests, and you have to switch to the new mostests.
This way lies madness! Madness, I tell you, MADNESSSS!
That depends on whether you are eating them inside or outside of the
if...then loop
When you eat a PB&J sandwich, do you have the PB side down or the jelly side down?
Jelly side up. Its required.
And when you make the PB&J sandwich, which do you put on first?
And when you make the PB&J sandwich, which do you put on first?
its a lot easier to clean off the jelly and then use the same knife for the peanutbutter then the reverse.
Peanut butter first - it insulates the bread thereby preventing it from absorbing all the liquid from the jelly.
Hello, SamIam. I didn't know the "other you" but I've heard stories. I like what I see here. Sounds like you're in a much better place in your life, and I have to think that this should be encouraged. Hope the subsequent 32 pages of this thread went well. These ƒuckers drift like a baloney stopwatch.
Jelly side up. Its required.
Peanut butter first - it insulates the bread thereby preventing it from absorbing all the liquid from the jelly.
If you put peanut butter on both slices of bread, how can you have the jelly side up? It would be in the middle.
Any minute now we're going to be taping the PBJ sandwich to a cat dropped from a small height above an infinitely expensive carpet...
... on a plane on a treadmill?
On a treadmill? Luxury! When ah were a boy, we din't have no treadmills...
Peanut butter on the bottom, applied first. Jelly laid directly on the peanut butter.
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Any minute now we're going to be taping the PBJ sandwich to a cat dropped from a small height above an infinitely expensive carpet...
Hey! That was a fun little experiment. I'd almost forgotten about it. I believe I just used plain old butter, though and the kitty strongly objected to having a slice of bread taped to his back. The things I do for the sake of science...
Jelly laid directly on the peanut butter.
What are you, high? You're going to get a little peanut butter on your jelly knife and contaminate the jelly jar if you do that.
You put the peanut butter on one slice, and the jelly on the other, and you bring the two together by flipping the peanut butter slice onto the jelly slice. If you flipped the jelly slice, the jelly might drip off because a proper PB&J sandwich has a lot of jelly.
What are you, high? You're going to get a little peanut butter on your jelly knife and contaminate the jelly jar if you do that.
You put the peanut butter on one slice, and the jelly on the other, and you bring the two together by flipping the peanut butter slice onto the jelly slice. If you flipped the jelly slice, the jelly might drip off because a proper PB&J sandwich has a lot of jelly.
jim, Dude! What he said!
Sigh. Read the instructions, people!
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Peanut-Butter-and-Jelly-SandwichWhat are you, high? You're going to get a little peanut butter on your jelly knife and contaminate the jelly jar if you do that.
Yes! Even washing the knife between is not sufficient. Two knives is the only option.
I thought you had to put Hershey bars in between the PB and J.
I thought you had to put Hershey bars in between the PB and J.
That is WAY too much going on, for a sandwich.
bonus trivia: what is Joey Tribiani's favorite food?
answer: a sandwich
It's better to get peanut butter in your jelly than to get jelly in your peanut butter.
By the way, the peanut butter - it has to be creamy, not crunchy.
omg I bet you guys leave bread crumbs in the butter too. Yuck ptooey bleh.
By the way, the peanut butter - it has to be creamy, not crunchy.
That's crazy talk!
Skippy?
THAT'S crazy talk. You're not a choosy mudder, are you?
Here, problem solved (if you can stomach it) :rolleyes:
remember Koogle?
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Yes! Even washing the knife between is not sufficient. Two knives is the only option.
We keep the peanut butter and jelly in separate fridges.
remember Koogle?
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Vague recollection of that.
What are you, high? You're going to get a little peanut butter on your jelly knife and contaminate the jelly jar if you do that.
You put the peanut butter on one slice, and the jelly on the other, and you bring the two together by flipping the peanut butter slice onto the jelly slice. If you flipped the jelly slice, the jelly might drip off because a proper PB&J sandwich has a lot of jelly.
when I'm eating peanut butter and jelly, yes, usually.
and I tip the jelly jar over the sandwich and goob enough of it out with the knife to cover it with 1 go, so no cross peanut butter/ jelly contamination occurs.
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We keep the peanut butter and jelly in separate fridges.
Peanut butter in the fridge?
That's crazy talk. You'd end up tearing the bread.
Skippy?
THAT'S crazy talk. You're not a choosy mudder, are you?
Heh. Look at this:
Hahahahahaaa! Now that is an informative graph. :rolleyes:
CITE!
Best graph ever, Jim.
Pfft, Logarithmic fail
Jim knows his logarithmics from his lumber.
I hated that song by the logarithmics.
Does your chewing gum lose it's flavor on the bedpost over-night?
Pfft, Logarithmic fail
Poetic license
If your mama says don't chew it do you swallow it in spite?
Only not so poetic and not so license.
Can you catch it on your tonsils and fling it left and right?
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My boomerang won't come back.
Yes, it is! And I'd used it recently to tie me kangaroo down. Do you think that could have done something to it?
what is brown and full of holes?
swiss shit
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I feel like singing polly wolly doodle all the day.
and a little Chock-a-mo fee na-né
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And a Hey - na - na
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The worms crawl in and the worms crawl out...
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Hahahahahaaa! Now that is an informative graph. :rolleyes:
CITE!
KOn the subject of peanut butter and jelly...
I learned from my husband to make the pbj sammich with peanut butter on both pieces of bread then jelly between them. This prevents the jelly from getting soaked into the bread. Don't be concerned about the jelly getting too mixed into the peanut butter (as I once had the same concern.) Jelly doesn't really need to be spread. Just plop it on there with a spoon and squish gently when you put the sammich together.
but I LIKE my bread to soak in the jelleh.
and here is a wrinkled up paper bag.
It's been dropped a few times on the way to the School Bus, and crushed under a book in my desk, and there's a wet corner from one of the grapes that escaped it's baggie, and popped.... and in there with the grape, the main course....also contained by the old kind of sangwhich baggie. The kind that didn't zip... it just had a flap that you could fold over... and when you took out your PB&J, that Wonder Bread was mottled purple.... and when you bit in, a blop would blop out the side and make your chin sticky. Now let's go play stick ball.
Does anyone else eat grilled peanut butter sandwiches? Yummy!
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Well done kero. :)
I knew someone would appreciate it. :D
On the subject of peanut butter and jelly...
I learned from my husband to make the pbj sammich with peanut butter on both pieces of bread then jelly between them. This prevents the jelly from getting soaked into the bread. Don't be concerned about the jelly getting too mixed into the peanut butter (as I once had the same concern.) Jelly doesn't really need to be spread. Just plop it on there with a spoon and squish gently when you put the sammich together.
Peanut butter first - it insulates the bread thereby preventing it from absorbing all the liquid from the jelly.
Luv ya - all the way from over here. :)
I confess that I'll take a peanut butter and sliced banana sandwich over PB&J any day.
Mmm ... lightly toasted with a lil cinnamon sprinkled on it? Yum!
Peanut butter and honey is good too, with the aforementioned technique. Also, who was it that said creamy only? I am with ya, buddy.
You guys like weirdass stuff with your peanut butter, like bananas and cinnamon and honey, but you want NO PEANUTS in your peanut butter? :lol:
;)
I yike both crunchy and non-crunchy (creamy sounds, um, like 'special sauce' or something.)
Peanut butter and honey is good too, with the aforementioned technique.
That sounds kinky!
Does anyone else eat grilled peanut butter sandwiches? Yummy!
Never tried it, but I luvs me some PB&J on toast.
My boomerang won't come back.
There's a knack to it
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( another of the childhood records)
I love it. I totally have that song memorized, from my childhood.
You've almost got me interested with the bananas and cinnamon an' all ... Hmmmm, peanut butter (crunchy) and banana and cinnamon ... Hmmmmm ....
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I confess that I'll take a peanut butter and sliced banana sandwich over PB&J any day.
I knew that's a legit way to eat PB&J. People always give me a weird look or plain out say ewww when I tell them to add banana slices to their PB&J sandwich. But I've never tried it with cinnamon. Gotta give it a shot one day.
That sounds kinky!
You should try it sometime. You will like it. ;)
I luv peanut butter and honey on toast.
You should try it sometime. You will like it. ;)
Have your secretary call my secretary...
I confess that at times, playing words with friends, I just make up words and hope that they're legal.
I confess that at times, playing words with friends, I just make up words and hope that they're legal.
Doesn't everybody?
Attorneys do it all the time; it's called Legalese :p:
I really miss this place sometimes. My spare time is just so limited.
Awww...we miss you too capn. xxx
how are the new gnashers and new mrs, Capn?
Ive finally adjusted to both. Life is good. Gonna try to get back in here with you all a little more.
what's wrong with that?
It feels ...... cheap..... somehow.
Uh, Jim, anything you want to confess?
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