Finally

Griff • Aug 13, 2011 7:12 pm
I finally finished my entry project!
Griff • Aug 13, 2011 7:13 pm
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Clodfobble • Aug 13, 2011 7:16 pm
Nice!
Nirvana • Aug 13, 2011 7:50 pm
Really nice!
glatt • Aug 13, 2011 8:40 pm
That looks fantastic. It really dresses up the side of the house.
Griff • Aug 13, 2011 9:33 pm
Thanks guys!
zippyt • Aug 13, 2011 9:47 pm
Bout Damn Time !!!!! ;)

Looks great !!!
Clodfobble • Aug 13, 2011 11:04 pm
zippyt wrote:
Bout Damn Time !!!!!


I do find it a little funny that you built this whole damn house... but the entryway cover, man, it's so hard to get up the motivation... ;)
jimhelm • Aug 14, 2011 1:10 am
i dig it.
Griff • Aug 14, 2011 7:15 am
zippyt;750136 wrote:
Bout Damn Time !!!!! ;)

Looks great !!!


Clodfobble;750142 wrote:
I do find it a little funny that you built this whole damn house... but the entryway cover, man, it's so hard to get up the motivation... ;)


Its easy to procrastinate with a roof over your head. :) I should have done the finish work first. [COLOR="White"]Of course I still have to stain this so it isn't finish finished.[/COLOR]
Trilby • Aug 14, 2011 8:19 am
It looks great! congratulations on a job well done.
TheMercenary • Aug 14, 2011 8:51 am
Digging the wooden pegs. Did you go some where to learn that or just read about how to do it. I have a plan in my head for a pavilion in my back yard using that technique.
Griff • Aug 14, 2011 11:39 am
I researched it on my own back when I built my house. There are a couple really good books you may want to read. Timber Frame Construction by Jack Sobon and Roger Schroeder and Building the Timber Frame House by Tedd Benson and James Gruber. The pegs (trenails) are easy enough to make. You just split your wood down to a rough square over the size of your through hole and then use a draw knife to size it. You should use a commander rather than a mallet to drive them but I used what was on hand since it was only a few pegs.
infinite monkey • Aug 14, 2011 12:20 pm
What a nice addition to Grifftopia. Good work!
Griff • Aug 14, 2011 12:56 pm
#1 daughter had an AP art assignment so she grouped my tools for a photo to work from.
footfootfoot • Aug 14, 2011 1:19 pm
Totally Grifftopic. Will you miss the water dripping down the back of your neck when you come into the house?

Why is the mortise so deep? Is it a lap or saddle joint?
Undertoad • Aug 14, 2011 1:33 pm
You must have an enormous caulk

ing gun
Griff • Aug 14, 2011 3:40 pm
footfootfoot;750238 wrote:
Totally Grifftopic. Will you miss the water dripping down the back of your neck when you come into the house?

Why is the mortise so deep? Is it a lap or saddle joint?


I'll miss the terminal velocity snow knocking me unconscious when the morning sun warms the roof.

Its a lap joint. I like to have a lot of material around the peg holes to reduce the chances of a full split when I drive it in. The forces on the joint are minimal so it is an aesthetic choice as well.
HungLikeJesus • Aug 14, 2011 4:10 pm
Do you have any pictures of the wooden pegs?
Griff • Aug 14, 2011 4:31 pm
I have an old one of us doing a Yeungling commercial with a peg driven but not cut off. The peg is left with edges so it bites into the joint. You can't use dowels because of weakness since dowels don't follow the grain.
TheMercenary • Aug 14, 2011 4:33 pm
thanks. I am going to order those books today. Again, beautiful work. Well done.
TheMercenary • Aug 14, 2011 4:35 pm
Did you use a hand drill to drill the holes? what size? or is in some ratio based on the thickness of the wood and joints?
Griff • Aug 14, 2011 4:55 pm
I used an inch and a quarter bit in a hand drill. There are some really cool old-timey mortising rigs you can use but for the house frame I only had a long auger bit on a heavy duty Milwalkee drill. I'm sure there are ratios that could be used, but I don't get too caught up in my lack of knowlege, when in doubt I overbuild. Most of timber framing is received knowledge from failures and successes since forever. These are probably as reliable as strength of materials indexes with the exception being old growth lumber had much tighter growth rings and was (is) stronger than modern trees which grew more quickly in less dense environments.
Gravdigr • Aug 14, 2011 6:17 pm
:thumb:
classicman • Aug 14, 2011 8:43 pm
very cool. looks great.
Aliantha • Aug 15, 2011 1:28 am
That's awesome Griff. I'm so impressed. :)
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 15, 2011 2:32 am
Looks great, and will be super functional as well... the question is, how many goats will it hold. ;)
Griff • Aug 15, 2011 4:12 pm
Definitely not goat tight construction.
BigV • Aug 23, 2011 10:48 am
I looked up "commander". Wow. I have the end piece of an enormous beam, say, 6"x14"x24". I imagine I could bomb a hole through it and wedge it down onto a baseball bat and voila! That is one serious tool.

Griff, I applaud you for your accomplishment here. I am humbled by your skill. Congratulations on a job very well done.
Griff • Aug 23, 2011 11:14 am
TheMercenary;750202 wrote:
Digging the wooden pegs. Did you go some where to learn that or just read about how to do it. I have a plan in my head for a pavilion in my back yard using that technique.


I almost forgot, you can take a timber-framing class from these guys. I took a home-building course from them, but not the timber class. The Shelter Institute
Griff • Aug 23, 2011 11:15 am
BigV;752048 wrote:
I looked up "commander". Wow. I have the end piece of an enormous beam, say, 6"x14"x24". I imagine I could bomb a hole through it and wedge it down onto a baseball bat and voila! That is one serious tool.

Griff, I applaud you for your accomplishment here. I am humbled by your skill. Congratulations on a job very well done.


I'm just a tourist, you should see what serious people can accomplish. Thanks though. :)
Pete Zicato • Aug 23, 2011 11:29 am
Griff;750236 wrote:
#1 daughter had an AP art assignment so she grouped my tools for a photo to work from.

Please thank your daughter for me. I like the pic so well it is now my desktop.
Griff • Aug 23, 2011 11:36 am
Cool!
BigV • Aug 23, 2011 11:37 am
Griff, how are the posts (columns?) attached to the "sills" on the tops of the rock walls?
Griff • Aug 23, 2011 11:45 am
I threaded bolts into undersize holes which I used to level the 4x8s then set them in a bed of mortar. If I were concerned about rot (read lived in the Pacific NW) I would have mounted the wood on a metal fixture set in the mortar. It should be very dry there though.
BigV • Aug 23, 2011 1:05 pm
hm. some clarification please. It sounds like the 4x8s are the toppers on the walls, set in mortar and bolted to the wall. How are the columns attached to these horizontal pieces?
Griff • Aug 23, 2011 1:54 pm
There is an approx 4" square tenon (or pin) on the bottom of the post that is set into a 4" square mortise.
TheMercenary • Aug 25, 2011 6:56 am
Griff;752076 wrote:
I almost forgot, you can take a timber-framing class from these guys. I took a home-building course from them, but not the timber class. The Shelter Institute


Thanks, do they hold them around the country or just in one place? Did you take the 5 day class? I like the idea of buying a kit from them and putting it up yourself. I picked up one of their books.
Griff • Aug 25, 2011 7:26 am
I think the classes are still in Bath. I took the one week class when I did it, since I already had some construction experience, but other folks with less background did the one-week as well.
Griff • Jan 19, 2013 2:06 pm
xoxoxoBruce;750323 wrote:
Looks great, and will be super functional as well... the question is, how many goats will it hold. ;)


Funny development, Benny recently realized the turkeys exist. He has been collecting them and putting them in the entryway. I'll try to get a pic, this pup is a hoot.