Sonic CC Machines

The card scanners at Sonic prompt:

"Do you know your PIN?"

What if you answered no???

Lower risk of heart disease?

What the fuck are you talking about? The hedgehog????? :confused:

The drive-up fast-food joint I reckon.

infinite monkey;731560 wrote:

What the fuck are you talking about? The hedgehog????? :confused:

Ibram;731566 wrote:

The drive-up fast-food joint I reckon.

:yesnod:

OH, and CC is credit card.

:facepalm:

We had a Sonic for like a year, then it just *poof* went out of business. I never did eat there.

If you park close enough to the menu thingie to run your card, then the person who comes to give you food can't reach your window.

And it's more like a not-so-fast food joint.

Flint;731552 wrote:

The card scanners at Sonic prompt:

"Do you know your PIN?"

What if you answered no???

then the transaction is processed as a credit transaction, instead of a debit transaction.

then the transaction is processed as a credit transaction, instead of a debit transaction.

and they come out Fingerprint you , Draw Blood , snip hair and Photograph you for Identity purposes

Flint;731552 wrote:

The card scanners at Sonic prompt:

"Do you know your PIN?"

What if you answered no???

BigV;731621 wrote:

then the transaction is processed as a credit transaction, instead of a debit transaction.

It is the wording/intent of the question that confuses me. If I don't know the PIN of the card I am running, then it isn't my card. It must be a stolen card. Running it as credit, without (I assume) even bothering to a check photo ID... how is that right? It appears that they are encouraging people to make fraudulent purchases.

If you don't know the PIN, they should call the police.

It should probably ask, then, "Do you remember your PIN?"

I have made numerous transactions with my plastic that did not require a signature or a PIN.

It is easy to make fraudulent purchases in this way.

I don't see the wording of this prompt as encouraging people to make fraudulent purchases. I see it as the first step in a decision tree of the payment processing system to determine how to process the payment. the wording could be different--in fact, when I bought groceries at the store this morning, the first prompt I saw was (words to the effect of): Credit / Debit? This is the same question essentially. I think the wording of the Sonic initial prompt was chosen for two reasons. 1 -- it is more conversational than credit/debit. and 2 -- it does seem to bias the transaction toward PIN/debit usage. Otherwise, if they're able to process it as a credit without a signature, why wouldn't they? and just skip the whole extra debit/pin trouble. I think they DON'T do this for two reasons. I think they would want to use the least expensive transaction model, and I think this is the debit transaction, and I think they'd want to make your shopping experience at Sonic as easy and uncomplicated as possible, therefore why bother you with a signature if they don't have to.

my $0.02.

zippyt;731638 wrote:

then the transaction is processed as a credit transaction, instead of a debit transaction.

and they come out Fingerprint you , Draw Blood , snip hair and Photograph you for Identity purposes, wrap you in a body bag, and bury you at sea. Photos will not be published.

Tell the full story, Zip.

I maintain that it would be vanishingly unlikely for someone to not know the PIN of the card they are carrying, without this indicating a deeper problem. The wording of the question is "do you know" your PIN. I don't understand what scenario that is designed to address.

Someone buying a hamburger with a stolen card...? With a card they "borrowed" from someone without asking...?

My husband never remembers his PIN number for his CC so he always has to sign. Things are probably different over there though.

Flint;731699 wrote:

I maintain that it would be vanishingly unlikely for someone to not know the PIN of the card they are carrying, without this indicating a deeper problem. The wording of the question is "do you know" your PIN. I don't uderstand what scenario that is designed to address.

Someone buying a hamburger with a stolen card...? With a card they "borrowed" from someone without asking...?

Let me rephrase the question.

"Like, dude, if you are on a late night munchie mission because you are, like, stoned off your arse and are too baked to remember your pin number, claim to be, like, "tired" now. We will sort out the money thing for you."

I have worked nights in a convenience store.

Flint;731699 wrote:

I maintain that it would be vanishingly unlikely for someone to not know the PIN of the card they are carrying, without this indicating a deeper problem. The wording of the question is "do you know" your PIN. I don't understand what scenario that is designed to address.

Someone buying a hamburger with a stolen card...? With a card they "borrowed" from someone without asking...?

I only know the pin of my debit card. Not for any of my credit cards. I never use them with the pin, I see no need to remember a pin for them. I sign or swipe and go.

Sonic is mean. When I drive there, I can never read the menu. I am blind but they don't care

use the braille one. It's usually on the waiter's face.

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Gravdigr;731620 wrote:

And it's more like a not-so-fast food joint.

I read an article that this is all the new thing, walk in burger joints that take 6-8 minutes to provide a 'higher quality' custom made burger.

Five Guys

Aliantha;731701 wrote:

My husband never remembers his PIN number for his CC so he always has to sign. Things are probably different over there though.

I try not to use my card as a debit, so on those rare instances when its my only choice, I sometimes have a difficult time remembering my PIN.

I have never used a pin number for any of my cards.

Beest;731731 wrote:

I read an article that this is all the new thing, walk in burger joints that take 6-8 minutes to provide a 'higher quality' custom made burger.

Five Guys

Hey, I had dinner there Thursday night. It was an OUTSTANDING hamburger, I actually thanked the crew for such a delicious meal after I was done. HIGHLY recommended.

I have cards that can be used as either credit or debit. I do not ever use them as debit, so I don't know my PIN.

Flint;731699 wrote:

Someone buying a hamburger with a stolen card...? With a card they "borrowed" from someone without asking...?

What? Thieves gotta eat.

Used to as Sonic when you chose "no" (because i was too lazy to type in my pin and for a few years I didn't know it), then it would just go straight through as debit. Now when you choose "no" you have to put in my zip code instead. Same thing at gas stations when you use credit. So, at least they are verifying your identity in someway. I guess if a person knows the area of a city you live it could be easier to guess your zip. Not for me though since I don't live at my billing address...