May 3, 2011: White House situation room during bin Laden raid

Undertoad • May 3, 2011 12:33 pm
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And so they watched the raid unfold, live video being shot by a camera affixed to a Navy SEAL's helmet on the other side of the earth.

It's said they witnessed the killing shot.

For or against the administration, it's a great image; can you not imagine yourself in there, directly watching history unfold, hoping for the best outcome?

Or would you be the overflow crowd in the hall, not having the rank to be in the situation room but desperately hoping to catch a glimpse?
glatt • May 3, 2011 12:40 pm
The General is the only one working. Or maybe he's posting on the Cellar. Everyone else is watching.
glatt • May 3, 2011 12:44 pm
1. They blurred out the confidential document in the foreground.
2. Even the disposable plastic cups have presidential seals.
glatt • May 3, 2011 12:46 pm
Not to keep responding to myself, but it always amazes me how small the White House is. That's an extremely cramped room.
Undertoad • May 3, 2011 12:56 pm
I think Clinton's document is probably a better-res version of this:

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Pajamas fellow Wretchard -- an armchair military analyst, but a very good one -- points out the details of the compound:
It is shaped like a truncated isosceles triangle with one vertex lopped off. The triangular compound was surrounded by high walls. But it was also internally subdivided, like a ship, in order to make it impossible for a landing force to alight directly within it. The living quarters were grouped in a keep, walled off from the rest of the compound by an alley to either side.

It was designed to delay an assault team long enough for reinforcements to arrive. But the SEALs apparently brought the helicopters down into the confined space anyhow. One of the SEAL helicopters can be seen in this picture of the aftermath, apparently hung up on a high wall.

Interestingly, the Google Maps satellite view shows a series of circular excavations on the interior side of the outer wall. Whatever was to destined be placed there would still leave a clear field of fire from the house but considerably constrict the open space. It would have reduced the maximum available rotor diameter space to something like 20 meters. The CH-53 has a 24 meter rotor diameter and UH-60 has a rotor diameter of about 16 meters.
Owl • May 3, 2011 3:43 pm
What's Robert Downey Jr. doing there?
lookout123 • May 3, 2011 5:13 pm
Isn't someone going to photoshop the little girl from the royal wedding in there?
footfootfoot • May 3, 2011 7:37 pm
Or disaster man? Speaking of which, a number of faces, Obama's included, look added later.
lookout123 • May 3, 2011 7:52 pm
Shhh. That is for operational security. He led Seal Team 6 personally.
lupin..the..3rd • May 3, 2011 9:15 pm
It's funny to me that they use the exact same shitty plastic HP brand laptop that I've got on my desk at work. You'd think they'd have something a little better. lol.
footfootfoot • May 3, 2011 9:20 pm
I'm sure it's a special 'police package' with bored-out cylinders and turbochargers and gas shocks and shit.
Griff • May 3, 2011 9:35 pm
That shot really puts you there. That's Merc's elbow behind Hillary. He isn't allowed to say so though.
ZenGum • May 4, 2011 3:09 am
I reckon if Merc was that close to Hillary, at that moment when everyone was totally focused on the events on screen ...
DanaC • May 5, 2011 7:38 am
I love that we get to see that.

That's a picture that will still be looked at a century from now.

Clever too. Hard to imagine a more dynamic view of the President. Beats the shit out of a helmet and a fighter plane.
infinite monkey • May 5, 2011 8:07 am
I keep coming back to this picture. It is sure to be lasting.
Clodfobble • May 5, 2011 1:36 pm
There was a great bit on Colbert the other night. First, he pointed out that Obama had officially ordered the raid several days before it happened. In fact, the order preceded the release of his birth certificate, as if he were smirking, "Okay guys, fine, here's the long form certificate, I'm sure this is gonna be the top news for weeks and weeks..." Secondly, the annual White House Press Corps dinner also happened in the interim, during which Obama was videotaped laughing long and hard in response to a joke about bin Laden's whereabouts.
ZenGum • May 5, 2011 9:12 pm
I can't believe no one has photoshopped something onto those computer screens.

But what? Teh Cellar? Hard core porn? Solitaire? Two girls one cup? I now... a Rickroll!
monster • May 5, 2011 11:41 pm
ZenGum;731252 wrote:
I can't believe no one has photoshopped something onto those computer screens.

But what? Teh Cellar? Hard core porn? Solitaire? Two girls one cup? I now... a Rickroll!


royal wedding. combined with the hats photoshop
infinite monkey • May 6, 2011 8:38 am
I read (oh crap...I read it. I don't know if it's true. I read it. I don't know. Don't beat me) that Hillary said later she was actually stifling a cough.

Ruined my perception of her 'reaction.'
Coign • May 6, 2011 12:03 pm
That is because this is either a) a staged photo or b) some random photo that is put out by the White house Dept of Lies and Deception, I mean PR.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8493391/Osama-bin-Laden-dead-Blackout-during-raid-on-bin-Laden-compound.html
toranokaze • May 6, 2011 2:37 pm
Obama only did this because he needed a ps2 fix, and real life was best substitute he could get..
lupin..the..3rd • May 6, 2011 11:02 pm
infinite monkey;730984 wrote:
I keep coming back to this picture. It is sure to be lasting.

Probably because William Shatner and Leslie Nielsen got table seats, while poor John Lithgow had to stand.
xoxoxoBruce • May 7, 2011 11:35 am
Coign;731442 wrote:
That is because this is either a) a staged photo or b) some random photo that is put out by the White house Dept of Lies and Deception, I mean PR.
Can you think of a more tense, concern causing time, than waiting for the video feed to be restored?
That's probably why the brass is busy on the computer.
SPUCK • May 8, 2011 5:18 am
xoxoxoBruce;731797 wrote:
Can you think of a more tense, concern causing time, than waiting for the video feed to be restored?
That's probably why the brass is busy on the computer.



Huh?

No, he was playing Call of Duty! Or was it Grand Theft Auto?
DanaC • May 8, 2011 7:58 am
Angry Birds...
Griff • May 8, 2011 8:51 am
This live-feed business really forces leaders to confront the reality of what they've ordered. It seems like a good trend.
ZenGum • May 9, 2011 4:34 am
Take it further. Once a day, maybe while he is exercising, the prez watches a headcam feed from some randomly chosen grunt. Might be in a firefight in Fubaristan, might be standing sentry duty on a road block on a god-awful hot day outside Kabul.
"What's that?! ... okay, regular car ... What's that? ... supply truck, let it through ... "
Just to keep him in touch.
Griff • May 9, 2011 6:36 am
Not a bad idea. Fubaristan is a suck-ass assignment btw.
lookout123 • May 9, 2011 11:09 am
Good idea, he could use the same system to get a glimpse into the lives of some of America's "rich" small business owners.
Alluvial • May 9, 2011 10:32 pm
ZenGum;731252 wrote:
I can't believe no one has photoshopped something onto those computer screens.


How about photoshopping something out?

The Hasidic newspaper, Der Zeitung (The Time), photoshopped out two women who featured in the image released by the White House - Mrs Clinton and counter-terrorism analyst Audrey Tomason.

The Brooklyn-based newspaper, which is written in Yiddish, is believed to have removed the women because of issues regarding female modesty.


Link.
glatt • May 10, 2011 8:20 am
I saw that in the paper this morning! I was amazed.

They have since apologized, and apparently, if they could do it again, they simply wouldn't run the picture.
xoxoxoBruce • May 14, 2011 9:39 am
The paper bag with red and white stripes, is a "burn bag" for destroying sensitive documents.
ZenGum • May 14, 2011 7:52 pm
I read a statement from that paper to the effect that they don't show pictures of women because viewers will be distracted by their beauty and this detracts from our respect for their abilities and talents and makes us regard them as bimbos.

I gotta tell those guys, whatever else you may say about her, Hillary did not get where she is on account of her looks.
DanaC • May 14, 2011 8:19 pm
Oh I dunno.

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ZenGum • May 14, 2011 9:15 pm
Not bad, I must admit, but I doubt either of us were born then.
BigV • May 15, 2011 5:10 pm
The paper in question from post #31 publishes pictures of these women. How is that the modesty of these women is not worthy of the same respect?

eta: further exploration of the photos from their site revealed numerous pictures of women, some dressed similarly to the ones shopped out of the WH photo. Some are mentioned by name, some are even shown with the President. I think the excuse about the modesty of women is bullshit. It is categorically false that they do not publish pictures of women.

For some reason this story really pisses me off.
BigV • May 15, 2011 5:18 pm
xoxoxoBruce;733935 wrote:
The paper bag with red and white stripes, is a "burn bag" for destroying sensitive documents.


Is that like "Where's Waldo?"? Cause... I'm not seeing a red and white stripey anything? little help please?

and of course, clicking on the link delivers the help I sought. Dwellar, help thyself.
Griff • May 15, 2011 6:59 pm
BigV;734174 wrote:


For some reason this story really pisses me off.


This one pushes a lot of buttons.
richlevy • May 15, 2011 7:06 pm
lupin..the..3rd;730253 wrote:
It's funny to me that they use the exact same shitty plastic HP brand laptop that I've got on my desk at work. You'd think they'd have something a little better. lol.
Yeah, but they paid some defense contractor $10,000 for that one.:right:
footfootfoot • May 15, 2011 8:34 pm
BigV;734174 wrote:
The paper in question from post #31 publishes pictures of these women. How is that the modesty of these women is not worthy of the same respect?

eta: further exploration of the photos from their site revealed numerous pictures of women, some dressed similarly to the ones shopped out of the WH photo. Some are mentioned by name, some are even shown with the President. I think the excuse about the modesty of women is bullshit. It is categorically false that they do not publish pictures of women.

For some reason this story really pisses me off.

Captain Renault: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
infinite monkey • May 16, 2011 10:25 am
Here's the oppo-shop! :lol:
classicman • May 16, 2011 10:38 am
That's very funny.
I thought about something like that.
Attributed to a feminist type site/mag/paper, but I was too lazy to do it.
infinite monkey • May 16, 2011 10:43 am
I sure didn't think of it!

I like how it's not even done very well. Adds to the funneh.

Made me lol!
BigV • May 16, 2011 12:47 pm
equal discrimination...

oh so pc.. lol.
ogwen69 • May 16, 2011 1:05 pm
Ok probably been said before BUT,
of the dudes stood up, left to right from our perspective.
1) Khaki shirt with collar silver things dude
2) Blue shirt arms crossed dude (no tie - no respect)
3) old bald dude in a suit - but you wouldn't mess would you?
4) Old David Scwimmer - now is it me or is he photoshopped in?
classicman • May 16, 2011 1:35 pm
dunno - I only see the two women :)
Rhianne • May 18, 2011 7:03 pm
Did anyone notice that there's a black guy in the photo?
Spexxvet • May 18, 2011 7:16 pm
Rhianne;734753 wrote:
Did anyone notice that there's a black guy in the photo?


Half-[strike]black[/strike] African American ;)
HungLikeJesus • May 18, 2011 7:54 pm
H'african-American?
Rhianne • May 18, 2011 8:29 pm
I wasn't sure of the etiquette, maybe I should've went for 'half-white'.
Spexxvet • May 19, 2011 9:02 am
Rhianne;734771 wrote:
I wasn't sure of the etiquette, maybe I should've went for 'half-white'.


Don't try Tiger Woods' description, your head might explode
Griff • May 21, 2011 11:19 am
infinite monkey;734288 wrote:
Here's the oppo-shop! :lol:


Oh noes! teh rapture is boys club