The Fed

TheMercenary • Apr 28, 2011 11:51 pm
Do they set monetary policy?

Is there absolutely no political influence over it?

When is the last time the were audited?

Is quantitative easing nothing more than printing money and an infusion of money (capital) to boost poor economic forecasts?

Should the Federal Government be able to force private companies to do their bidding or control who sits as the King?
TheMercenary • Apr 28, 2011 11:58 pm
How much did the American tax payer owe the fed in 2008 vs today?
Uday • Apr 29, 2011 12:27 am
TheMercenary;728690 wrote:
How much did the American tax payer owe the fed in 2008 vs today?


As far as your friend Uday can see, it doesn't really make any difference, because none of it is real.
SamIam • Apr 29, 2011 1:38 am
TheMercenary;728688 wrote:

Should the Federal Government be able to force private companies to do their bidding or control who sits as the King?


Frankly, it's a choice between the lesser of two evils. Do you really want Halliburten et al to "sit as King"? :eyebrow:
ZenGum • Apr 29, 2011 2:27 am
Dunno about youse guys, but down here official interest rates are set by the reserve bank. This was set up by the gubmint, and board members are appointed by the gubmint.
The reason for this was that interest rates are too sensitive to be entrusted to some political hack who is more worried about getting re-elected than the long term health of the economy. In 2007 we had an interest rate rise during an election campaign. There is no way a sitting politician would have had the nerve to do that.

Quantitative easing is kinda like printing money, only they just manipulate ones and zeros and don't even bother with the printing anymore.

If the greenback slides any further I'll be able to spit in the tip mug and make it overflow.
TheMercenary • Apr 29, 2011 9:40 am
ZenGum;728707 wrote:

If the greenback slides any further I'll be able to spit in the tip mug and make it overflow.
True dat. But it won't be worth much.
BigV • Apr 29, 2011 2:10 pm
The Fed (The Federal Reserve)
TheMercenary;728688 wrote:
Do they set monetary policy?
Yes, they do set monetary policy.
From here:

Today, the Federal Reserve's responsibilities fall into four general areas.

Conducting the nation's monetary policy by influencing money and credit conditions in the economy in pursuit of full employment and stable prices.

Supervising and regulating banks and other important financial institutions to ensure the safety and soundness of the nation's banking and financial system and to protect the credit rights of consumers.

Maintaining the stability of the financial system and containing systemic risk that may arise in financial markets.

Providing certain financial services to the U.S. government, U.S. financial institutions, and foreign official institutions, and playing a major role in operating and overseeing the nation's payments systems.



TheMercenary;728688 wrote:
Is there absolutely no political influence over it?
.... I sense a trap with the language "absolutely no(ne)". Come on... it is a governmental institution. If I were to overlook the obvious negative answer, I'll say that this outfit is not elected, and as such is built as well as we can build it to be resistant to political influence, much in the same way that our Supreme Court is designed to be resistant to political influence.

TheMercenary;728688 wrote:
When is the last time the were audited?


The Board of Governors, the 12 Federal Reserve Banks, and the Federal Reserve System as a whole are all subject to several levels of audit and review. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) conducts numerous reviews of Federal Reserve activities. In addition, the Board's Office of Inspector General (OIG) audits and investigates Board programs and operations as well as those Board functions delegated to the Reserve Banks. Completed and active GAO reviews and completed OIG audits, reviews, and assessments are listed in the Board's Annual Report. (Before 2002, the reviews were listed in the Board's Annual Report: Budget Review.)

TheMercenary;728688 wrote:
Is quantitative easing nothing more than printing money and an infusion of money (capital) to boost poor economic forecasts?
Quantitative Easing is just printing money, correct. The Fed has that magical power, true. Is it for the purpose to boost poor economic forecasts, well, that's a cynical expression to be sure, but of course. Why else would they do it at all?

TheMercenary;728688 wrote:
Should the Federal Government be able to force private companies to do their bidding or control who sits as the King?
wtf?

TheMercenary;728690 wrote:
How much did the American tax payer owe the fed in 2008 vs today?
The Fed isn't owed anything by the taxpayer, with the exception (convoluted) that the returns on the treasury bonds purchased by the Fed are in essence paid for by the taxpayer. but that's preeeety recursive.

ZenGum;728707 wrote:
Dunno about youse guys, but down here official interest rates are set by the reserve bank. This was set up by the gubmint, and board members are appointed by the gubmint.
The reason for this was that interest rates are too sensitive to be entrusted to some political hack who is more worried about getting re-elected than the long term health of the economy. In 2007 we had an interest rate rise during an election campaign. There is no way a sitting politician would have had the nerve to do that.

Quantitative easing is kinda like printing money, only they just manipulate ones and zeros and don't even bother with the printing anymore.

If the greenback slides any further I'll be able to spit in the tip mug and make it overflow.


TheMercenary;728778 wrote:
True dat. But it won't be worth much.
if ZenGum's spitting USD then it will be worth as much as your USD or my USD, but he might be getting them at a considerable discount if his labor/investments are delivering returns in a different currency (likely), unlike you and me who are probably being paid in USD.
ZenGum • Apr 29, 2011 7:59 pm
BigV;728879 wrote:

Today, the Federal Reserve's responsibilities fall into four general areas.

Conducting the nation's monetary policy by influencing money and credit conditions in the economy in pursuit of full employment and stable prices.

Supervising and regulating banks and other important financial institutions to ensure the safety and soundness of the nation's banking and financial system and to protect the credit rights of consumers.

Maintaining the stability of the financial system and containing systemic risk that may arise in financial markets.

Providing certain financial services to the U.S. government, U.S. financial institutions, and foreign official institutions, and playing a major role in operating and overseeing the nation's payments systems.



Jebus, they're doing a shithouse job of it.



if ZenGum's spitting USD then it will be worth as much as your USD or my USD, but he might be getting them at a considerable discount if his labor/investments are delivering returns in a different currency (likely), unlike you and me who are probably being paid in USD.


I spit in Aussie dollars. A few years back 1 AU$ = US$0.75 or so.
Today, what with our interest rates about 5%, the Chinese buying our coal and iron ore like crazy and the woes of the greenback, AU$1 = US$1.09.

Mind you our house prices are fucking nutso high, but that's another topic.
TheMercenary • Apr 29, 2011 8:02 pm
Hell, I just found a new vacation location!
Uday • May 25, 2011 12:57 am
TheMercenary;728688 wrote:


Is quantitative easing nothing more than printing money and an infusion of money (capital) to boost poor economic forecasts?


Yes. It ends this month. This means the commodity speculation is also going to end, and rather quickly.

This sounds good, but it isn't.