Medieval Recipe Advice

footfootfoot • Apr 27, 2011 1:34 am
Please don't mock this thread. I am having a theme party and would like to serve old food. I'm too tired to finish this properly, someone else take over.
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Big Sarge • Apr 27, 2011 2:12 am
large racks of ribs, whole roasted chickens, ham shanks. serve big chunks of greasy meat that needs to be gnawed on. use large round bread loaves and tear off chunks. a pungent cheese round goe along nicely. for drink, use horn cups or goblets filled with mead
infinite monkey • Apr 27, 2011 8:14 am
Apparently, the midievalites were heavy into barley.

Their comprehensive cookbook was called Barley & Me.

And ale. You need ale.
wolf • Apr 27, 2011 9:03 am
And some plover's eggs.

Suggestion ... watch Game of Thrones and serve whatever they're having ...
wolf • Apr 27, 2011 9:05 am
Actually, as an experienced renfaire participant, you'll be wanting things like turkey legs, meat on skewers (steak upon a stake), scotch eggs, and so on. Ale and mead to wash everything down. And if you can arrange for some dogs to wander about the banqueting hall to eat the leavings, I think you'll have it.

Bless the interwebz. You can find anything you need.
skysidhe • Apr 27, 2011 9:14 am
Served in bread bowls and eaten with knifes. No forks, no spoons.
wolf • Apr 27, 2011 9:16 am
Oh yeah, pa renfaire was big on soup in a bread bowl.
Trilby • Apr 27, 2011 10:43 am
I thought medieval food was synonymous with disgusting food?

Like roast pidgeons, roast sparrow and lark, lampreys and eels and things that look like Alien, ONIONS GALORE! and for desert - a lemon; the sweetest fruit known at the time.
infinite monkey • Apr 27, 2011 10:58 am
Sheesh, just come here: cabbage soup? What, is that like one step above 'gruel'?

:vomit:
Sundae • Apr 27, 2011 11:15 am
Potage - thick vegetable stew, sieved into a thick soup.
And yes, they used to have it on "trenchers" of bread, but served in bowls with bread (or bowls OF bread) is perfectly acceptable. It's VERY filling though, so perhaps just offer it as a veggie option.

Bri - lemons weren't grown here, so they wouldn't have been a common dessert. They would be imported from Europe with oranges which would have been far more popular. Pastries made with nuts and honey are more likely. The rich had access to a number of different types of sugar and used it extensively, even in savoury dishes.

Oh and contrary to the opinion that meat was always served with highly spiced sauces to hide the taste of it going off, meat was available all year round, fresh off the hoof or wing, but spices came from half a world and years away. Sauces were popular, but more likely used with English herbs like borage, sage, thyme, rosemary, parsley and chives. Garlic grows wild here and was used extensively to flavour food.

Puddings were also common - savoury puddings made with animal fat (suet). They are declining in popularity now, but even I grew up on steak & kidney pudding and beef pudding.

What do you have against the other food, Brianna? I've eaten pigeon, lampreys and eels. Yumyum.

(Can you tell I've just done both Tudors and Castles at school?)
footfootfoot • Apr 27, 2011 11:15 am
OK I am calling off this thread as a singular failure of a clone thread. I was too tired to do it properly. This has never happened before. It must be stress.
Sundae • Apr 27, 2011 11:16 am
You know what?
I thought it was a clone to start with - but I have PP on ignore so I wasn't sure.

When I saw other people answering sensibly I really thought I was being helpful :(

Would you please consider having a Medieval Banquet just to try all this out?
infinite monkey • Apr 27, 2011 11:20 am
I'll see your :( and raise you a :mad:

wtf, foot? We didn't live up to what must be your REALLY high expectations?

You don't even give a fuck about medieval food, you're just like pam: make a disguised thread about food then don't even like the jokes. WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US?

I think you're a post nazi.


Sick of your buttress,

Infi
footfootfoot • Apr 27, 2011 11:20 am
Sundae Girl;727895 wrote:
You know what?
I thought it was a clone to start with - but I have PP on ignore so I wasn't sure.

When I saw other people answering sensibly I really thought I was being helpful :(

Would you please consider having a Medieval Banquet just to try all this out?


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DanaC • Apr 27, 2011 11:23 am
I never understood why that film flopped in cinemas. It's my favourite Jim Carrey film.
Trilby • Apr 27, 2011 11:29 am
RE: the Lemon comment. I was just joshin' about the lemons. The line ("Lemons being the sweetest fruit known at the time") is Granda Simpson talking about the lemon tree in Springfield (as just another example of how tough things were back in his time). So I was being cheeky there.

RE: eating pidgeons=eating wing'ed rats!
eating lampreys and eels=eating snakes!

Yick! You really eat that stuff? Of course, I can't really claim much. Until v. recently, I ate at McDonalds. YICK!
Sundae • Apr 27, 2011 11:32 am
I might have to wear a hair net, to catch all the jokes flying over my head :mecry:

Pigeons eated are NOT urban pigeons (shudder)!
You haven't lived til you've eaten jellied ells :)
infinite monkey • Apr 27, 2011 11:32 am
Some of the glue got stuck on the table. It was terrible.
Urbane Guerrilla • May 2, 2011 4:25 am
Big Sarge;727819 wrote:
large racks of ribs, whole roasted chickens, ham shanks. serve big chunks of greasy meat that needs to be gnawed on. use large round bread loaves and tear off chunks. a pungent cheese round goe along nicely. for drink, use horn cups or goblets filled with mead


Sarge, that's not Medieval; that's RenFaire -- its roots are sunk in Hollywood not history.

Something more on-target might be such as these, by search on "SCA recipes":

Medieval SCA recipes

http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/food.html -- go mining through the links presented

Feast Food Recipes -- scroll down, scroll down, scroll down... main text and sidebar, looks like.

SCA Trail Bread The comparatively low 375F baking temp makes for chewy bread. I've seen this kind of thing before.

SCA Potluck

Selections from the first page -- of 1.23M hits. Go crazy!

And yeah, you can probably find recipes for lampreys or jellied eels if you look hard enough. No SCA feast or revel I've ever been to was that hardcore, though. Meat pies... a fair mess of meat pies...
Urbane Guerrilla • May 2, 2011 4:41 am
skysidhe;727860 wrote:
Served in bread bowls and eaten with knifes. No forks, no spoons.


Spoons, always, always. Table forks of the Middle Ages, Renaissance onward, and only spottily used at first, popular first in Italy. Two tines.

The bread bowl is a latterday mutant edition of the bread trencher -- the first sliced bread, incidentally. Loaf bread, the crusts cut away, trimmed into square, stiff slabs for pretty, usually five per diner: four in a square on the tablecloth, the fifth pyramided upon the middle of the square and stuff transferred or served to that. The pantler had a set of special knives to do the job for setting the table. They took their soups and stews in bowls back in the day. They would have been quite amused at the stew in a bread bowl, and would likely have adopted it, but I don't hear they actually came up with that one.

Kidding aside, I still take my medieval and medieval-oid food seriously.
wolf • May 2, 2011 8:17 pm
footfootfoot;727894 wrote:
OK I am calling off this thread as a singular failure of a clone thread. I was too tired to do it properly. This has never happened before. It must be stress.


Shame. It's a great party idea.
Urbane Guerrilla • May 2, 2011 11:42 pm
And that might help with the stress.

Speaking of stress, wolf -- it's awful dang soon, but anything good on the job front? New job, any job?
Gravdigr • May 6, 2011 4:20 pm
A crown roast always reminds me of King Arthur type times.

:yum:
Sundae • May 6, 2011 4:24 pm
Were you happy then Grav?
Gravdigr • May 6, 2011 4:49 pm
"puts me in mind of", then.

Hells, no, I wouldn't have been happy back then.

Too lazy, not enough buttons.

ETA: Oh, and the weed!!! I bet the weed was just awful back then...
infinite monkey • May 6, 2011 4:51 pm
I hear ya. I would've been a sucky pioneer, even.

Do WHAT to build a shelter? Fuck that!
footfootfoot • May 6, 2011 4:58 pm
Gravdigr;731614 wrote:

ETA: Oh, and the weed!!! I bet the weed was just awful back then...

yebbut it was free and the streets were paved with it.
Gravdigr • May 10, 2011 2:16 pm
Heaven... I'm in heaven,
And my heart beats so that I can hardly speak.
And I seem to find the happiness I seek,
When I inhale the weed that's paving the street.
BigV • May 12, 2011 5:12 pm
footfootfoot--

Maybe you could use the woodchuck as ... stuffing? Kindling? I don't know.. but this recipe seems medieval, neanderthal even.

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