So, Like, I got Fired ...

wolf • Apr 12, 2011 10:03 pm
As I quietly announced in my user title, I am unemployed.

Fired.

Shit-canned.

It's an entirely surreal experience.

The last time I lost my job, the company closed down.

That's what got me to the nuthouse as a temp. 19 years ago this summer. That's one hell of a temporary job, eh?

I learned a lot, my life headed in directions that I never expected.

But it's done.

Over.

The really short version is that although I am an awesome person, and really smart, and really capable, and know the law and the job really super well, I don't work and play well with others.

Because of something that I maintain that I did not do, I am sitting in my chair, with the television on for company, wondering what the fuck I am going to do.

I'm trying to start with the small stuff. I've been doing laundry today, and I threw some past-date stuff out of the refrigerator.

I also have started looking for an attorney. I know shit-all about choosing an attorney, so if anyone knows one with termination-of-employment experience, it would be helpful.

I have some documents that need to be looked over.

I am also looking for pointers on how to fill out the unemployment paperwork.

oh. fuck.
monster • Apr 12, 2011 10:15 pm
wolf, that's horrible, I am so sorry. I wish I could help, but definitely fight it.
plthijinx • Apr 12, 2011 10:18 pm
damn wolf! you do have the option of going to the state for a doc (dept of cor) job right?
wolf • Apr 12, 2011 10:20 pm
Because of my current state of learned helplessness, I'm not sure that there is anything to fight for.
zippyt • Apr 12, 2011 10:40 pm
Fight it Wolf !!!!

Wolf Helpless ??

I say BULL SHIT !!!!!
Nirvana • Apr 12, 2011 10:51 pm
This is so WTF! :thepain:
monster • Apr 12, 2011 11:09 pm
use the anon account and tell us the story. in a different thread
anonymoo • Apr 12, 2011 11:35 pm
I am so sorry to hear this. Our collective thoughts are with you. I try not to be confrontational and I would walk away and start over. I always felt that if they don't want me, then I don't want to be there.
monster • Apr 13, 2011 12:14 am
Yebbut cold card cash makes the starting over easier.
Cloud • Apr 13, 2011 12:15 am
what?!!!! omg awful! being fired sucks so hard I can't even say.

:(
Bullitt • Apr 13, 2011 12:33 am
Sorry to hear wolf. Is PA an at-will employee state? If so then I'm REALLY sorry.
Undertoad • Apr 13, 2011 12:36 am
All I know is that I was allowed to file UI online for the first segment and then they changed to paper

It was not difficult to file -- it was always difficult to get real people on the phone if there was a problem.

Condolences over this injustice
tw • Apr 13, 2011 3:31 am
wolf;722750 wrote:
I also have started looking for an attorney. I know shit-all about choosing an attorney, so if anyone knows one with termination-of-employment experience, it would be helpful.
Search for court trails that involve that particular type attorney. Go sit in some courtrooms to watch those esquires in action. Sometimes the good ones are obviously better.
casimendocina • Apr 13, 2011 6:09 am
Give it a bit of time (about a week if you can afford to) and direction (in addition to what other Cellarites have posted above) as to what to do next will come. Wish I could help on the legal side, but unfortunately, our system is different. :(
Griff • Apr 13, 2011 7:38 am
I'm sorry wolf. Its hard to get moving after something like this but you gotta.
glatt • Apr 13, 2011 8:17 am
Geez wolf, I'm sorry. That really sucks.
infinite monkey • Apr 13, 2011 8:18 am
My heart goes out to you wolf. I'll skip the platitude that when one door closes...(oh wait, I almost forgot to skip it) but I really do think some of the best things could happen to you now. But jebus this must be so hard for you. I really feel for you, and hope you keep your chin up.
Spexxvet • Apr 13, 2011 9:23 am
Wolf, did they go through the proper process? Were you "counselled" or warned? Is there company policy against whatever it is that you were supposed to have done? You might be shocked when you get fired, but you should never be surprised. If you were surprised, it's likely that this is a personal issue, which, IMHO, would be inappropriate dismissal.
Sheldonrs • Apr 13, 2011 9:45 am
I'm sorry about that. I'll keep my fingers crossed that a good job comes to you soon.
infinite monkey • Apr 13, 2011 10:05 am
hey wolf, wanna join the peace corps together? :)
Clodfobble • Apr 13, 2011 10:13 am
Dang it wolf, this sucks. I could tell you about all about unemployment benefits in Texas, but I suspect they're entirely different in PA. Since they obviously didn't give you any warning, did they at least give you any kind of severance?
Trilby • Apr 13, 2011 11:26 am
I;m sending good vibes your way, wolf.
lookout123 • Apr 13, 2011 11:36 am
Damn, Wolf. Sorry to hear about this. The good news is this frees you up for a political campaign for the 2012 election. Just imagine what you could do with those well dressed nutters. Almost none of them would pee on you.
Glinda • Apr 13, 2011 2:55 pm
Damn, damn, damn. I HATE hearing this news, but you may have recourse, so don't give up the ship yet!

I'd start here: http://www.pabar.org/public/membership/lrsblurb.asp

And then I'd go here: http://lawyers.findlaw.com/lawyer/practicestate/Employment-Law----Employee/Pennsylvania

See what you come up with. If you've got a good case, someone will take it. If you've got an AWESOME case, someone will take it at no charge to you.

FIGHT!!!
Sundae • Apr 13, 2011 3:03 pm
Very sorry to hear it Wolf, and I can't give any practical advice given the differences in our systems.

All I would say is apply for Unemployment Benefit (or whatever you have there) ASAP.
It's unlikely they will backdate it past the date of your claim.
If you sit on your hands for a couple of weeks, those are weeks ticking by that you won't get any money for. In this country it can take MONTHS to receive any benefit. It's backdated (to the date of your claim) but that doesn't help put food on the table in the mean time.

It's worth applying, even if you think you will have a job by this time next week.
Here's hoping you won't need it, but money is money after all.
Undertoad • Apr 13, 2011 6:38 pm
What SG says is true -- and that part can be done really easily online.

http://www.uc.pa.gov/portal/server.pt/community/uc_pa_gov/11449

"file an initial claim" on the right-hand side.
kerosene • Apr 13, 2011 7:25 pm
I am sorry, wolf. I can't imagine they could find anyone better for the job. What a bunch of morons! It sucks to get fired...especially when it was undeserved. Hang in there and don't stop moving. Don't let it get you down on yourself. I know all that is easy to say and might be hard to do, but you will find a way out of this mess.
DanaC • Apr 14, 2011 8:29 am
I wanna know how it took them 19 years to decide you weren't enough of a team player. Sounds a bit of a bullshit reason to me.

Good luck Wolf, hope you find a route to redress and a slew of new opportunities to choose from.
wolf • Apr 14, 2011 12:49 pm
I have an appointment with an attorney tomorrow morning. He seems okay, was recommended by a friend who is an attorney with the wrong sort of practice.

Free consultation, and his rate isn't as frightening as the other one that I was quoted yesterday by the lawyer with the friendliest website.

I have another attorney option if this guy doesn't pan out. He seems very focused on seeking a cause of action against the nuthouse.

My biggest concern right now is figuring out how to reply to questions on the unemployment form without making myself ineligible for benefits.
HungLikeJesus • Apr 14, 2011 1:32 pm
Take the fifth.
Pico and ME • Apr 14, 2011 1:36 pm
I'm sure shes already done that... *hiccup*
footfootfoot • Apr 14, 2011 2:58 pm
Remember Wolf, when god closes one door, he makes lemonade.

Re: lawyers, see this
SteveDallas • Apr 15, 2011 12:53 am
Spexxvet;722797 wrote:
Wolf, did they go through the proper process? Were you "counselled" or warned? Is there company policy against whatever it is that you were supposed to have done? You might be shocked when you get fired, but you should never be surprised. If you were surprised, it's likely that this is a personal issue, which, IMHO, would be inappropriate dismissal.

That's the beauty of "at will" employment. Even if it was personal? Not illegal. Unless wolf can prove it was, say, gender, or age, or religion-based, then it's legal to fire her for any reason.

However, if they have procedures on the books that they didn't follow (for example, giving a written warning for a first offense), it might make it much harder for them to defend, which increases the chance for a settlement.

This sucks big time, wolf. Good luck with the lawyer.
skysidhe • Apr 15, 2011 1:31 am
wolf;723010 wrote:


My biggest concern right now is figuring out how to reply to questions on the unemployment form without making myself ineligible for benefits.


I suppose it is finding the words for how and what you feel happened.The position you will take, which cannot be the same as your employer.
( as you know, I am sure )

I feel for ya :thepain:
Tulip • Apr 15, 2011 11:56 am
I hope it's not too late for me to say I'm sorry to hear what happened to you.
footfootfoot • Apr 15, 2011 12:03 pm
Tulip;723281 wrote:
I hope it's not too late for me to say I'm sorry to hear what happened to you.


you're too late for that, but not too late to tell her to sue them. I think we're still doing that. Actually, I think we're now suggesting new careers for her.
Spexxvet • Apr 15, 2011 12:04 pm
Wolf, you didn't happen to be in a union that could protect you, did you?
SamIam • Apr 15, 2011 12:25 pm
wolf;723010 wrote:
I have an appointment with an attorney tomorrow morning. He seems okay, was recommended by a friend who is an attorney with the wrong sort of practice.

Free consultation, and his rate isn't as frightening as the other one that I was quoted yesterday by the lawyer with the friendliest website.

I have another attorney option if this guy doesn't pan out. He seems very focused on seeking a cause of action against the nuthouse.

My biggest concern right now is figuring out how to reply to questions on the unemployment form without making myself ineligible for benefits.


If they have a box marked "other" for reason for being unemployed, check that. Then in the space provided, explain in your own words what happened. Don't be adversarial or anything like that. Be very professional and let them know it was due to a mis-understanding.
wolf • Apr 15, 2011 12:50 pm
I have seen the attorney, and he thinks he should be able to get more than is being offered. Of course, everything starts with a $1,000 retainer.

I'm confused and worried. Do I try for bonus points with no guarantee of any recovery, or slink away?
monster • Apr 15, 2011 12:55 pm
oh wolf, I'm so sorry, I wish I could help and advise. $1,000 seems a lot, but there's a lot at stake. Is is possible to fight and lose what is already on the table?
toranokaze • Apr 15, 2011 1:18 pm
You have both my condolences and prayers wolf. My advice is still try and get out, go to the park or the museum on a free day.
Also take inventory of your transferable of skills.
I have been unemployed until about a week ago, so I have a idea what happens when one is out of work.
lookout123 • Apr 15, 2011 1:49 pm
monster;723318 wrote:
oh wolf, I'm so sorry, I wish I could help and advise. $1,000 seems a lot, but there's a lot at stake. Is is possible to fight and lose what is already on the table?
Only you know how things really went down. If you really truly believe the judge will look at it and say, "WTF - give this woman her job or a pile of money" then the deck is stacked against you. $1,000 is a lot to hand an attorney unless really truly believe the court will find the company at fault and order them to pay.
wolf • Apr 15, 2011 2:19 pm
That's $1K just to start, unknown how much more they might need to continue the case ...
lookout123 • Apr 15, 2011 2:45 pm
IMO if the attorney really thought he had a chance of getting something out of this he'd be talking about taking the case on a contingency basis. Many moons ago a friend was fired by a national shoe company and she had attorneys lined up to take the case. She ended up winning 3 years pay and handed a little over 1/3 of that to the attorney who handled it.
infinite monkey • Apr 15, 2011 2:47 pm
I wondered about that. I thought what would be in it for a lawyer for an employment contingency case? What's the most one could get, back pay, the job back? Did your friend wait three years for the settlement to occur or did they award her for wrongful termination regardless of time?
lookout123 • Apr 15, 2011 2:57 pm
I don't know why the math worked out to be 3 years pay. It was in court for probably 2-3 years but she was working elsewhere. The case was pretty cut and dry. It was a national athletic shoe chain. She was a store manager ranked in the top 10% of the company but the new district manager didn't like women managers because they were drama and got knocked up. (His opinion, not mine)

Well, she got pregnant and was at a scheduled doctor's exam when he showed up for an audit. Even though she wasn't scheduled to be at the store, he fired her for attendance issues. Dumbass. I think the reason it took so long was just a matter of numbers, not guilt.
infinite monkey • Apr 15, 2011 3:00 pm
True, those cases can go on a long time.

Another thing to consider, for sure.
SteveDallas • Apr 15, 2011 3:40 pm
wolf;723314 wrote:
I have seen the attorney, and he thinks he should be able to get more than is being offered. Of course, everything starts with a $1,000 retainer.

I'm confused and worried. Do I try for bonus points with no guarantee of any recovery, or slink away?

I can't make a financial calculation on limited knowledge of the situation (to say nothing of the fact that IANAL).

However my advice is to fight it. I believe, down the road, in the grand scheme of things, you will regret not pushing back more than you will going to court and losing, if it comes to that.
monster • Apr 15, 2011 3:51 pm
Are there any lawyers who will take it on a contingency basis, wolf?
SteveDallas • Apr 15, 2011 3:55 pm
Yeah I was thinking if nothing else, get a second opinion.
Aliantha • Apr 15, 2011 7:58 pm
I'm sorry you got the arse Wolf. I hope you can get yourself sorted out really quickly.
TheMercenary • Apr 15, 2011 8:31 pm
Wow, so sorry about that wolf. I will miss your stories. I hope you find employment soon. Maybe it is time for a big move to another state in the same line of work. Something radical....
Clodfobble • Apr 15, 2011 11:02 pm
The lawyers who took our WARN Act violation case (when the videogame company improperly laid us all off) also took it on contingency. I think their fee was 1/3 of the money awarded, but they also followed the damn case for almost 6 years, they more than deserved it.
bluecuracao • Apr 15, 2011 11:23 pm
wolf;723010 wrote:
My biggest concern right now is figuring out how to reply to questions on the unemployment form without making myself ineligible for benefits.


If you feel that your termination wasn't your fault, then by all means say that on the UC form.

Is there someone in HR at your old place of employment you can call? Maybe you can find out if they plan to deny your benefits and ask them not to. If they are already offering you severance pay, then it's possible they won't give you a problem about unemployment compensation (which they pay into ahead of time, like insurance).

But if they do plan to say it was your fault...I don't think PA will deny you unemployment if the reason was you did not play well with someone at work. It would have to be something more serious than that.

My former boss was fired for something along those lines (supposedly), yet he was still able to collect unemployment.

I am very sorry this happened to you, Wolf! It happened to me a few months ago, so I know what you must be going through.
limey • Apr 16, 2011 8:20 am
OMG. Wolf. Fuck. That sucks. Sending positive vibes your way ...
pensive pam • Apr 18, 2011 3:30 pm
wolf;722750 wrote:
As I quietly announced in my user title, I am unemployed.

Fired.

Shit-canned.

It's an entirely surreal experience.

The last time I lost my job, the company closed down.

That's what got me to the nuthouse as a temp. 19 years ago this summer. That's one hell of a temporary job, eh?

I learned a lot, my life headed in directions that I never expected.

But it's done.

Over.

The really short version is that although I am an awesome person, and really smart, and really capable, and know the law and the job really super well, I don't work and play well with others.

Because of something that I maintain that I did not do, I am sitting in my chair, with the television on for company, wondering what the fuck I am going to do.

I'm trying to start with the small stuff. I've been doing laundry today, and I threw some past-date stuff out of the refrigerator.

I also have started looking for an attorney. I know shit-all about choosing an attorney, so if anyone knows one with termination-of-employment experience, it would be helpful.

I have some documents that need to be looked over.

I am also looking for pointers on how to fill out the unemployment paperwork.

oh. fuck.


I was fired too...I'm just no good...
monster • Apr 21, 2011 5:02 pm
Hey wolf, any news?
wolf • Apr 21, 2011 5:12 pm
Nothing at this point. There is a job fair this coming Monday that I'm planning on attending, but of course none of the companies that are attending are the sort that do the kind of thing that I did ... however, there is always the chance that one of these regular corporate types of places is looking to hire for their Employee Assistance Program.

Mainly I'm going for the practice in the meet and greet 5 minute make an impression interview(ette). I have purchased some special (i.e., cheaper) resume paper, because the job fair people say to take 30 copies of your resume.

Now, here's the big question ... since this is basically a fishing expedition ... do I print my two page resume single sided like you're supposed to, or double sided so it doesn't get separated and lost?
pensive pam • Apr 21, 2011 5:19 pm
wolf;725375 wrote:
Nothing at this point. There is a job fair this coming Monday that I'm planning on attending, but of course none of the companies that are attending are the sort that do the kind of thing that I did ... however, there is always the chance that one of these regular corporate types of places is looking to hire for their Employee Assistance Program.

Mainly I'm going for the practice in the meet and greet 5 minute make an impression interview(ette). I have purchased some special (i.e., cheaper) resume paper, because the job fair people say to take 30 copies of your resume.

Now, here's the big question ... since this is basically a fishing expedition ... do I print my two page resume single sided like you're supposed to, or double sided so it doesn't get separated and lost?


Hi Wolf! Thanks for your advice on my other two threads. I am much younger than you but I do know that IF you do have a 2 page resume, print in on two pieces of paper. Secondly, try not to skimp on the stock quality of your paper. Hard to explain. A heavier stock feels more 'valuable.' and carries more weight. It's psychological. If a recruiter has two resumes in his hand - one printed on regular 8x10 stock paper, and one printed on heavier fancier paper - he will gravitate towards the better stock quality...
Hope this helps,
Your friend,
Pam.
wolf • Apr 21, 2011 5:24 pm
I used to do some graphic design. I understand about weight, color, and fonts.

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wolf • Apr 21, 2011 9:40 pm
I have seen the company list for the job fair. Under ordinary circumstances I wouldn't waste the gas to show up, especially at the current prices.

Who's going to be there?

AVON
Mary Kay
Century 21
A big insurance company
A local Hyundai dealer
A Home Security company that advertises heavily on television
A home improvement consultant
Another insurance company
A financial planner
A pool and pool supply store franchiser
Yet Another Insurance Company
Four Online Universities
Three Headhunters
Two Advertising Sales Companies
One Software Company

No partridge in a pear tree, either.

There are some possibilities for the four online universities, although I suspect they are trying to recruit students rather than staff.

So, where does that leave me? I don't wear makeup, I don't have a real estate license and wouldn't waste the time and money on one in a down market, I dislike Korean cars, don't have any financials worth planning and am confused by same, and consider home security to be a shotgun and a 6 D-cell flashlight.

Interestingly, I do have experience with an advertising sales company, but I wasn't planning on going back to that. I have a master's degree.

Perhaps one or more of these companies will have on site EAP services.

Maybe some of these people will be giving away free stuff. One of the insurance companies offered a lame benefits package a couple of years ago, but they gave us squeezy toys.

I like squeezy toys.
ZenGum • Apr 21, 2011 9:43 pm
I just remembered ... a few months ago, you were deliberately and maliciously right in front of a doctor whose highly qualified beliefs were such that reality failed to match them. Is that what is behind this?

And as much as I will miss your Nuthouse threads, I reckon that in a year's time you will be in job that will make your life much more enjoyable. No getting spat at, pissed at, bitten, having to juggle the suicidal nut with the crackwhore ...

Any chance of going into snail wrangling?
wolf • Apr 21, 2011 9:51 pm
Disagreements with doctors were such a frequent part of my job that they all blend together. I don't think there were any members of the medical staff that I hadn't had to involve the big doctor boss. Some more than once.

I had been looking forward to the snails, but that doctor, after happily retiring to his home country, in the beautiful mansion his green american dollars built for him, surrounded by the 15 foot glass and razor-wire topped wall, looked out at the blasted landscape on the other side that his "boys" were patrolling with full-auto AKs, and suddenly understood why he left the third world.

No snails.

He's in Scranton, working in a crazy prison.

Which is preferable to all that other stuff I just mentioned.

I am also regretting not having gone into some serious debt to buy the teahouse I frequent. The ladies who ended up with it are going to kill it inside of six months.
Griff • Apr 22, 2011 8:50 am
wolf;725506 wrote:


I am also regretting not having gone into some serious debt to buy the teahouse I frequent. The ladies who ended up with it are going to kill it inside of six months.


Maybe it'll be cheaper to buy after they've tanked?
Clodfobble • Apr 22, 2011 8:59 am
wolf wrote:
Perhaps one or more of these companies will have on site EAP services.


Wouldn't it be more likely that the insurance companies would offer such services to their corporate clients? Or are these small insurance brokers, not major insurers themselves?
skysidhe • Apr 22, 2011 9:03 am
wolf;725506 wrote:

I am also regretting not having gone into some serious debt to buy the teahouse I frequent. The ladies who ended up with it are going to kill it inside of six months.


Griff;725671 wrote:
Maybe it'll be cheaper to buy after they've tanked?


Yes! The tea house!
infinite monkey • Apr 22, 2011 10:40 am
There are some possibilities for the four online universities, although I suspect they are trying to recruit students rather than staff.


You can count on it. Run, don't walk, in the other direction.

Unless they have squeezy toys.
Pete Zicato • Apr 22, 2011 1:51 pm
I'm really sorry to hear about this Wolf. It can be very scary to be let go. And it can really do a number on your head. I hope you find a smooth path to a new beginning.
ZenGum • Apr 22, 2011 10:51 pm
infinite monkey;725744 wrote:

Unless they have squeezy toys.


Wait - is that the new word for :ggw:?
wolf • Apr 25, 2011 10:12 am
So, it is absolutely true.

No matter how many times you proof your resume on screen and on paper, the really stupid, glaring error is only discovered when you print many copies on the good paper.

Well, second best paper. It's just a career fair. They don't deserve the 30#.

Heck, I'm even printing a bunch of them on both sides of the page.
wolf • Apr 25, 2011 2:25 pm
I have survived the job fair.

It did turn out to be a lot of sales jobs. Pretty much all sales jobs, except for one company that is looking for information technology folks, but not stuff that I do or know how to do, but I did pick up one of their flyers for tester-san, who is still looking for work.

Two of the companies I was interested in (both online universities) didn't show up. Of the one who did, apparently they list teaching positions on their website, so I'm going to be checking that out.

I did get some trinkets, as expected.

One water bottle, one squeezy ball, one cap snaffler, a duster, an emergency whistle-light-keychain thingy, a fridge-magnet clip, and three bottles of 5-Hour Energy (two grape and one pomegranate).
Clodfobble • Apr 25, 2011 2:38 pm
wolf wrote:
Of the one who did, apparently they list teaching positions on their website, so I'm going to be checking that out.


Wolf, have you looked at www.indeed.com? They include job listings that employers only put up on their own websites, even tiny employers you've never heard of. It's stupidly comprehensive.
Spexxvet • Apr 25, 2011 3:42 pm
wolf;725497 wrote:
There are some possibilities for the four online universities, although I suspect they are trying to recruit students rather than staff.


Create yor own job. Market yourself to a university (obviously not on-line). With the increasing crazies that are causing problems on campus, you can be the person that mingles with the students and picks out the ones that are going to go postal. Call it "pre-psycho" identification.
infinite monkey • Apr 25, 2011 3:42 pm
You could be my bodyguard!
footfootfoot • Apr 25, 2011 3:47 pm
Clodfobble;726889 wrote:
Wolf, have you looked at www.indeed.com? They include job listings that employers only put up on their own websites, even tiny employers you've never heard of. It's stupidly comprehensive.


Indeed definitely holds out far more false hope than any of the other job search online places that I've been to. I almost think I may have a chance when I am on indeed. So I recommend it too.
monster • Apr 25, 2011 5:48 pm
infinite monkey;726951 wrote:
You could be my bodyguard!

you can be her long lost pal
jimhelm • Apr 25, 2011 5:49 pm
I love that video. It's the last time Chevy Chase was funny, though, which is kind of a shame.

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Undertoad • Apr 25, 2011 6:06 pm
If you want a sales job I have one. I'm not sure it can make you a full living, but part of one yes
wolf • Apr 25, 2011 6:42 pm
I am not yet so desperate that I am willing to take a sales job. If it's a regular corporate setting, I'm more interested in EAP type services.
morethanpretty • Apr 27, 2011 11:34 pm
So whats the word wolf?
morethanpretty • Apr 27, 2011 11:42 pm
I'm thinking of starting a porn co...wanna help?
morethanpretty • Apr 28, 2011 12:43 am
You can have any position you want...
wolf • May 8, 2011 10:51 am
I appear to have qualified for unemployment. The letter from the state is confusing, mainly, I think, because the same Determination of Benefits letter goes to my former employer and includes instructions for their appeal process, which they have stated they will not attempt.

I activated my state credit card thingy today, and it does say I have money on the card. I have a desire to go out and buy something frivolous. Like food.
Big Sarge • May 8, 2011 11:18 am
Don't waste the money on food. You will only enjoy it for a few minutes and then it is over. I'd suggest you use your money to buy socks. You can never have too many and in todays economy......
wolf • May 8, 2011 11:21 am
I have sock ingredients in the house ... double pointed needles, sport weight yarn, and a set of piss-poor instructions, which is why they are only ingredients at this point.

I'm busy crocheting a shawl for a friend's upcoming birthday right now.
skysidhe • May 8, 2011 3:30 pm
wolf;731988 wrote:
I appear to have qualified for unemployment. The letter from the state is confusing, mainly, I think, because the same Determination of Benefits letter goes to my former employer and includes instructions for their appeal process, which they have stated they will not attempt.

I activated my state credit card thingy today, and it does say I have money on the card. I have a desire to go out and buy something frivolous. Like food.


YAY you!

The fact they are not going to appeal it means they don't have a case!

Yes, buy food and socks!
limey • May 8, 2011 3:41 pm
Buy food. Knit socks (I'll help you with the latter task).
catbaby • May 9, 2011 12:13 am
do not let this make you feel shitty about yourself.you said yourself that you were there a long time without planning to be.you can apply for unemployment on line and to strengthen your position with them,have some brochurage for classes to update your skills(whether or not you intend to go).maybe this was to keep you from getting complacent.by all means fight,but be always moving forward in even the smallest ways.chin up.....even with a trembling bottom lip.
infinite monkey • May 9, 2011 9:43 am
wolf;732000 wrote:
I have sock ingredients in the house ... double pointed needles, sport weight yarn, and a set of piss-poor instructions, which is why they are only ingredients at this point.

I'm busy crocheting a shawl for a friend's upcoming birthday right now.


Sock ingredients. *snicker*
monster • May 9, 2011 10:12 am
Any news on the job search/legal processes?
toranokaze • May 9, 2011 2:18 pm
infinite monkey;732193 wrote:
Sock ingredients. *snicker*


It seems like using snickers in socks would make them sticky.
Spexxvet • May 9, 2011 4:24 pm
toranokaze;732290 wrote:
It seems like using snickers in socks would make them sticky.


But tasty, and I loves me some tasty socks
toranokaze • May 12, 2011 3:30 pm
I didn't know you were in to suck kinky things spexxvet
wolf • Jun 9, 2011 11:08 pm
Having time on my hands, and being somewhat able to keep time, I have decided to teach myself to play bodhran.

I would rather have an actual teacher, but they tend to cost money, and I haven't been able to find any in my area. I don't want to drive to Allentown.

Why Bodhran? Because there's one that's been sitting at the top of my closet for the last 10 or so years since I bought it at the Renaissance Faire. It was $20. I have gotten more than $20 worth of entertainment out of it this week.

I am reliably getting it to make the proper sorts of noises, although at a much slower rate than I think they're supposed to be happening.

I'm working through the videos on http://www.bodhranexpert.com which are really, really good.

I also need to find some Irish music jam sessions, without going into Philadelphia. Not that I'm good enough for that yet, although I am quite enthusiastic. I'm thinking that interacting with actual bodhran players might be useful. That and the Guinness.

Which reminds me, RichLevy, did you ever get around to figuring out the bodrhan at all? And how's your djembe doing?
Lola Bunny • Jun 10, 2011 12:19 am
Cool. You can upload a youtube video for us to see when ur good enough. :)
skysidhe • Jun 10, 2011 12:56 am
I like the bodhran.
wolf • Jun 11, 2011 1:26 pm
So, when I'm not watching the Casey Anthony Trial, crocheting, or thumping on the bodhran, what am I doing?

Sometimes, not a lot.

There is one other thing I have been doing, though.

Walking.

There is a lovely park next to my apt, that has a walking path that connects to another, much bigger walking path.

So, I put on my mp3 player, and start trudging. Usually I trudge along listening to The Making of the Atomic Bomb. That's the book with the 90-minute long segments that I need to have the mp3 player remember it's place for me to find truly enjoyable.

I have usually been doing about a mile, mile and a half. I surprised myself last week by discovering that I'd walked 2.14 miles (according to Jeeves, my exercise encourager).

So, I was chattering with one of my girlfriends who lives nearby about this. Invited her along.

That was the stupid part.

Why was that stupid?

Because, rather than my usual wander around the park, we went further.

And missed a turn somewhere maybe.

We were following this trail and it just kept going and going ...

At one point we were going up this hill and I say, "If I see the big road, I will be quite vexed."

Let me tell you, I was more than merely vexed. I was all the way to perturbed, because what I saw at the crest of the hill was a construction site that was not appreciably near where my friend parked her car.

At the end, Jeeves informed me that I had walked 3.7 stinkin' miles.

If I hadn't accepted the ride back to my door, it would have been FOUR.
Lola Bunny • Jun 11, 2011 3:11 pm
3.7 stinking miles is wondeful! :D
classicman • Jun 11, 2011 3:23 pm
That's GREAT wolf! Keep it goin'
Trilby • Jun 11, 2011 4:15 pm
First of all - thanks for keeping me updated on what you are doing with your free time :) I walk a lot, too - or, I used to, before Ohio became just another Pennsylvanian swamp (eight weeks of continuous rainfall followed by scorching heat = SwampOhio)

Secondly - I love that you used the word 'vexed'.

Lastly - I've been following the Casey Anthony trial, too, and I have a theory. Maybe it's stupid, maybe I'm projecting but what I think happened is that Casey hates her mother so much and resents her and just really, really despises her and was jealous that Cindy was horning in on being Queen Mother and she thought, well, I'll fix her; I'll take away what she cares about most! Because, honey, Cindy Anthony is a walking pathology of narcissistic nutty-goodness, coupled with the control issues of a Stalin, and merged with the self-righteousness of a True Borderline. Cindy begat Casey but didn't LOVE Casey - only competed with her and was determined to keep Casey under her thumb, by god, but Casey outsmarted her. She did something Cindy never dreamt she'd do - kill Caylee.

Whaddya think?
Trilby • Jun 11, 2011 4:18 pm
Oh, and NOW Casey and Cindy are throwing DAD under the bus by saying he molested Casey!! Good grief!!
They will stop at nothing!!


now. Back to your previously scheduled thread. :)
richlevy • Jun 12, 2011 4:12 pm
wolf;739335 wrote:

Which reminds me, RichLevy, did you ever get around to figuring out the bodrhan at all? And how's your djembe doing?
The skin on the tunable bodhran broke. I picked up a simpler one but I haven't used it lately.

My 2-year-old grandson is really enjoying a mini-djembe I picked up a while ago. I play along with the ashiko, but I'm having a problem with one of the rings which is warped.

Still, if you come over for a BBQ, we can bang on the drums and annoy the neighbors.:D:drummer:
wolf • Jun 13, 2011 12:03 pm
That would be a delight.

I thought that you had replaced the head on the tunable after it's over-baking.
richlevy • Jun 13, 2011 8:30 pm
I replaced the head on the tunable, but the skin I bought did not have a frame. The 'frame' I jury-rigged failed, and while I was waiting to fix it I misplaced the screws.:smack:
wolf • Jun 23, 2011 8:46 pm
Continuing to walk with jeepgirl, but maintaining some additional control over the process. This past Tuesday the weather was looking iffy, so I smuggled her into the exercise room here at the apt.

There are two treadmills side-by-side, so we were each able to walk at our own pace, and had a very nice, air-conditioned time.

I actually went back later that afternoon and played with some of the other stuff ... treadmill, exercise bike, eliptical, more treadmill. I prefer the treadmill. Damn eliptical. I hurt in places I didn't know could hurt because of the way the thing sneakily impacts multiple muscle groups.

One major disappointment ... there is a large changing room/bathroom. I got all excited. Sign on the door said "Ladies Changing Room and Sauna."

Liability attorneys must have descended upon them like locusts. The sauna controls were dismantled and it's being used as a storage closet. :(

I would so have loved exercising, having a schvitz, and then hitting the pool.

Oh well.

Today the weather was looking iffy again ... actually was iffy. stupidly humid, heavy cloud cover, thunderstorms expected (never materialized), but it did rain here and there, so we went mall-walking. They don't have the distance signs up any longer, but we were able to find a security guard who let us know that three turns around a level was a mile. We did a total of three miles, plus we went up and down the stairs, which made up for my friend having stopped to shop in one of the anchor stores after the mall opened.

According to Jeeves (noom fitness tracker) I've expended over 2500 calories in the last seven days.
Lola Bunny • Jun 23, 2011 9:39 pm
wolf;741670 wrote:


According to Jeeves (noom fitness tracker) I've expended over 2500 calories in the last seven days.


Very good! :thumb2:
Spexxvet • Jun 24, 2011 9:09 am
wolf;741670 wrote:
Damn eliptical. I hurt in places I didn't know could hurt because of the way the thing sneakily impacts multiple muscle groups.


That means it's better for you. Stick it out, when you get over the pain hump you'll enjoy it.
wolf • Oct 25, 2011 1:28 pm
It's been a rough week.

When I went to file my UC Claim, I got a message that essentially said ... you're out of money.

I have too much stuff to be successfully homeless.

Luckily, one phone call later, I was guided through the process of filing for an extension.

I can breathe again.

Or will, once I see money hit the account.

But that's not really what I'm posting about today.

I got an email from a guy at a big, different nuthouse.

There looking at enhancing some of their staff care services with something that I do and he had some questions about how it all worked, and whether it might be useful. So we had a nice little chat about that.

As our conversation was winding down, I said something on the order of ...

"There's no really good way to segue into this question, so I'm just going to blurt it out ... do you have any open positions in your department?"

"Well, yes. There's two, one of them should be posting soon on the website. Everything goes through this big screening process and the only way to apply is online."

Ooh.

Nothing was posted under that job category when I went looking.

Don't know why, but I checked yesterday evening ... and there it was. Hopefully it's for the place I think it's for, since the nuthouse is part of a larger system and I'm not really into moving just at the moment. Application took me both last night and this morning to fill out .... it's really detailed and the interface was not terribly user friendly. Perhaps the ability to negotiate it is part of the screening process?

So, for good or ill, I clicked "submit" about an hour ago.

I hope I spelled everything right.
jimhelm • Oct 25, 2011 1:31 pm
good luck!
wolf • Oct 25, 2011 1:32 pm
Thanks!
limey • Oct 25, 2011 1:49 pm
Fingers crossed for your Wolf!
HungLikeJesus • Oct 25, 2011 2:26 pm
You should have had us do a read-through.
glatt • Oct 25, 2011 2:31 pm
Good luck wolf. that would be awesome.
Trilby • Oct 25, 2011 2:37 pm
Best of luck, wolf -

:flower:
monster • Oct 25, 2011 2:53 pm
God luck, wolf, you deserve it.
SamIam • Oct 25, 2011 3:44 pm
Go, Wolf! Good luck to you.
classicman • Oct 25, 2011 3:52 pm
Good for you Wolf. I hope all works out and they realize what an asset you'll be to their organization
bluecuracao • Oct 25, 2011 7:53 pm
wolf;766590 wrote:
It's been a rough week.

When I went to file my UC Claim, I got a message that essentially said ... you're out of money.

I have too much stuff to be successfully homeless.

Luckily, one phone call later, I was guided through the process of filing for an extension.

I can breathe again.

Or will, once I see money hit the account.


Yeah, your heart just jumps-sinks when you see that message. I had the second go-around with that this past Sunday, even though I'd counted the weeks this time and knew when it was coming. Hope you move effortlessly into this job, so you don't have to see that on your screen again!
Nirvana • Oct 25, 2011 8:25 pm
So I bought this sign on line for a friend of mine that owns a backwoods cabin. For some reason it made me think of you Wolf. ;) I also thought of keeping it myself. :)


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I hope you get the job! :)
Griff • Oct 25, 2011 8:26 pm
Good luck lady!
wolf • Oct 26, 2011 10:18 am
HungLikeJesus;766614 wrote:
You should have had us do a read-through.


If the interface hadn't sucked so mightily I probably would have. You lose the ability to go back and change stuff as you move forward.

If I had ever written anything so useless back when I was still programming, I would have been fired.

Thanks to all of you for the encouragement and support!
Spexxvet • Oct 26, 2011 10:52 am
Good luck Wolf. The Crazies need you.
dmg1969 • Oct 26, 2011 12:20 pm
Good luck, Wolf! I hope you get it.
kerosene • Oct 26, 2011 2:28 pm
Best of luck, Wolfie. Cheering for you, over here.
Pete Zicato • Oct 27, 2011 3:24 pm
Hope it works out.
limey • Jan 13, 2012 8:32 am
Was this cookie I saw at the bottom of the page about you, Wolf?
"(although some days I think about bagging it and becoming a new age counsellor or something ... reading tarot cards and the like. It involves much the same skills, but you don't get enmeshed with the managed care companies, and you don't need to carry malpractice insurance.)
- wolf (SilverWolf)"
wolf • Mar 14, 2012 5:51 pm
limey;787452 wrote:
Was this cookie I saw at the bottom of the page about you, Wolf?
"(although some days I think about bagging it and becoming a new age counsellor or something ... reading tarot cards and the like. It involves much the same skills, but you don't get enmeshed with the managed care companies, and you don't need to carry malpractice insurance.)
- wolf (SilverWolf)"


Wow, I missed this. It wasn't just about me, it was by me. Back in the day.

Today I had a phone interview, which has turned into a live interview tomorrow.
BigV • Mar 14, 2012 6:00 pm
Excellent!!!!!

Go get'em, tiger!
monster • Mar 14, 2012 6:18 pm
hurrah
limey • Mar 14, 2012 6:24 pm
Fingers crossed!
Blueflare • Mar 14, 2012 6:33 pm
Best of luck.
I got fired six weeks ago. Supposedly I wasn't "communicative" enough. I didn't see how, but I hated that job anyway, so I had no will to fight it. Open plan office = hell on earth for me.
classicman • Mar 14, 2012 9:19 pm
You go Wolf! Knock 'em dead!
Griff • Mar 15, 2012 6:22 am
wolf;801451 wrote:
Wow, I missed this. It wasn't just about me, it was by me. Back in the day.

Today I had a phone interview, which has turned into a live interview tomorrow.


Good luck!
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 15, 2012 8:36 pm
Yeah, get off your lazy ass and get back to work, it'll help Obama.:p:
kerosene • Mar 16, 2012 1:26 pm
How'd it go?
footfootfoot • Mar 16, 2012 7:28 pm
I checked indeed.com for Tarot reading jobs but there weren't any in my area.
BrianR • Mar 17, 2012 10:28 am
Tarot card reading.... best way to pick up girls EVER! Seriously, my deck has gotten me laid more times than I could count. Whoever the guy was who showed me... thank you!! :D
wolf • Mar 20, 2012 5:39 pm
Well ...

I just got home from the second interview. I got a call last Friday evening (after 6p!) asking to come in to "see more people."

So I did.

I think I was confident and relaxed, got toured around the facility a little bit. It looks like a really cool place to work.

I'll let everybody know what happens.
zippyt • Mar 20, 2012 5:43 pm
Good Luck Wolf !!
jimhelm • Mar 20, 2012 5:47 pm
w00t!
BigV • Mar 20, 2012 5:50 pm
That is absolutely great news!
infinite monkey • Mar 20, 2012 6:31 pm
YAY!
Griff • Mar 20, 2012 6:37 pm
groovy!
ZenGum • Mar 20, 2012 7:20 pm
Positive visualisations underway!
HungLikeJesus • Mar 20, 2012 8:25 pm
Are you positive that you were there to interview for a job?
classicman • Mar 20, 2012 8:47 pm
I'm very happy for you.
skysidhe • Mar 20, 2012 8:58 pm
yay, wolf!
plthijinx • Mar 20, 2012 9:05 pm
GITCHASOME!
monster • Mar 20, 2012 9:45 pm
yay wolf. happy for you
Nirvana • Mar 20, 2012 10:28 pm
Finally a valuable asset appears to have been snapped up! Go Wolf!
kerosene • Mar 20, 2012 10:32 pm
So happy for your, wolf! You deserve it!