WTF News
This is not really weird news it is so WTF it needed it's own thread.
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Win a Vasectomy From PETA!
It's a two-fer: Get your animal companion fixed, and get yourself fixed too! Human overpopulation is crowding out animal life on the planet, and dog and cat overpopulation is creating a euthanasia crisis that is a crying shame. Disappearing wilderness, vanishing water resources, and pollution is the price that future generations will pay for more human births, while losing their lives is the price that millions of homeless dogs and cats pay when guardians neglect to "fix" their companion animals.
Every year in the U.S., an estimated 6 to 8 million lost, abandoned, or unwanted dogs and cats enter animal shelters. The best way to combat the companion-animal overpopulation crisis is to have your cat or dog neutered. And with a global population of almost 7 billion humans, more of our species could use a (voluntary) snip too.
MOREWow!The marketing department was in overdrive on the day they came up with that.
PETA is wacky, but I do think that over-population is the biggest problem we face.
PETA is wacky, but I do think that over-population is the biggest problem we face.
Of pets or humans, or both?
I wouldn't trust PETA to line up the best vasectomy provider. Unless they let me pick the urologist, I'd pass.
Man glued to Walmart toilet seat
Prank keeps victim stuck in restroom until emergency personnel arrive
Posted: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 1:45 am
Man glued to Walmart toilet seat By Carl Hamilton [email]cahamilton@cecilwhig.com[/email] Cecil Whig | 0 comments
Someone smeared superglue on a toilet seat in a public restroom in Elkton last week, setting a trap that caught an unwitting man, police and emergency workers confirmed Monday.
Officials wouldn't say how long the 48-year-old Cecil County man was stuck inside a men's bathroom at the Walmart in the 1000 block of East Pulaski Highway, before he was able to summon help.
The depressing story of 34-year-old San Francisco pageant mom Kerry Campbell, who gives her 8-year-old daughter Botox injections, made readers foam at the mouth after The Mommy Files brought the all-too-true tale to the public's attention. Kerry, looking to make her young daughter both famous and sexually alluring, "purchases Botox online and injects her 8-year-old daughter Britney with it." She also waxes her daughter's legs and bikini line in a chilling effort "to get rid of peach fuzz and to make sure she doesn't develop pubic hair later in life." Mom and daughter, named Britney (of course), appeared on Inside Edition today to explain.
INSIDE EDITION: "People watching this will say, this is child abuse."
CAMPBELL: "It's not child abuse. I'm not hurting my daughter. I take very good care of my daughter."
INSIDE EDITION: "You believe a lot of people in the pageant world are doing this?"
CAMPBELL: "I know a lot of people in the pageant world are doing it!"
Campbell, a beautician, claims to know other mothers who also give their daughters Botox.
The perverse mom also appeared on Good Morning America on Thursday to whore out her daughter some more. Mama Kerry revealed that Britney never actually requested the treatments, saying, "We talked about it. She didn't exactly ask me about it but I know that she was complaining about her face having wrinkles and things like that."
When asked if she would ever want to have waxing done again, Britney said, "no." We can only imagine what kind of treatment her mother will force upon her if and when she complains about her weight.
There is video also if you are so inclined... The media whores sure were.
I fit were up to me she'd have her kid taken away. That is SO f*cked up on so many levels.
LinkNot so much news as it is wtf question. "no stupid questions" though, right?
Are Christian girls more willing to engage in backdoor activities?Not so much news as it is wtf question. "no stupid questions" though, right?
Are Christian girls more willing to engage in backdoor activities?
Sodomy isn't a sin if its with a chick. The backdoor is open house. Its fair, technically you have pulled the wool over gods eyes. Turns out he's pretty dumb.
and you found that ... how? :eyebrow:
I had a female Indian friend in college who told me that Indian girls favored anal sex, not because it got around any kind of "sin" rules but because it preserved the culturally-critical virginity until marriage.
and you found that ... how? :eyebrow:
I just opened the link and there it was.
just doing a little background work. some deep research. trying to get to the bottom of things, you know.
eta:
"sodomy" was, and in some places still is, defined as "unnatural sex". and that, my friend, is worthy of an entirely different thread of its own.
34-year-old San Francisco pageant mom Kerry Campbell, who gives her 8-year-old daughter Botox injections, made readers foam at the mouth after The Mommy Files brought the all-too-true tale to the public's attention.
UPDATE:
LOS ANGELES (AP) — There are allegations that the woman who claimed she injected her 8-year-old daughter with Botox made up the whole thing. In a video on TMZ.com, Sheena Upton says the London tabloid the Sun had her pose holding a syringe to her daughter's face and had promised her $200. Upton says on the video, "Honestly, I don't even know what Botox is."
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44681741/ns/today-today_news/t/wife-sinaloa-drug-lord-joaquin-guzman-gives-birth-california-hospital/
Emma Coronel, the 22-year-old wife of Joaquin Guzman, crossed the border in mid-July and delivered her daughters at Antelope Valley Hospital in Lancaster on Aug. 15, the Los Angeles Times reported on its website Monday.
Coronel, a former beauty queen who holds U.S. citizenship, returned to Mexico after they were born. Because they were born in the U.S., her children also qualify for American citizenship.
I guess no other American citizen has ever returned to the US to give birth... or maybe it's so newsworthy because she's a beauty queen.
But then, so little happens in Lancaster, maybe it made the news because the hospital got to use their Labor/Delivery suite for the third time this year.... or maybe someone is playing the race card
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44681741/ns/today-today_news/t/wife-sinaloa-drug-lord-joaquin-guzman-gives-birth-california-hospital/
Emma Coronel, the 22-year-old wife of Joaquin Guzman, crossed the border in mid-July and delivered her daughters at Antelope Valley Hospital in Lancaster on Aug. 15, the Los Angeles Times reported on its website Monday.
Coronel, a former beauty queen who holds U.S. citizenship, returned to Mexico after they were born. Because they were born TO A US CITIZEN, her children also qualify for American citizenship.
FTFMSNBS
I guess no other American citizen has ever returned to the US to give birth... or maybe it's so newsworthy because she's a beauty queen.
But then, so little happens in Lancaster, maybe it made the news because the hospital got to use their Labor/Delivery suite for the third time this year.... or maybe someone is playing the race card
oh, crap. No, not race per se .I Left out the pertinent information.
She is the wife of Joaquin Guzman, a Mexican drug lord.
Maybe she just wanted better health care.
I too saw that sky, I thought I posted it somewhere...
It was definetly WTF. I am glad she had girls. I can't view them as future little drug cartels with American citizenship.
Now, what about poor old pad foot. I hope he finds a home.
I guess no other American citizen has ever returned to the US to give birth...
Jack Donaghy and his wife Avery fled Canada to give birth to their daughter (so she would be eligilbe for President) but that was on a Tv Show, so...
An American citizen has her babies in America, making them Americans too.
And there was a thought that they were doing that to help business someday? Crap, there goes that war on drugs...previously SO successful now it's shot all to hell because some damn American Citizen had babies in America. It's done, people. It's over. We've lost.
*hangs head in shame and slinks away*
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The young wife of Mexico's most wanted drug lord has given birth to twin girls at a hospital in California
returned to Mexico after they were born. Because they were born in the U.S., her children also qualify for American citizenship. Birth certificates listed Coronel as the mother of the girls, but the spaces for the father's name are blank.
Coronel was not arrested because there are no charges against her.
Guzman is a multibillionaire who is widely considered the world's wealthiest drug trafficker. Guzman reached a new level of fame — or infamy — two years ago when he made Forbes magazine's list of the 67 "World's Most Powerful People." At No. 41, he was just below Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei while topping Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez — No. 67 — and France's Nicolas Sarkozy — No. 56.
The issue has nothing to do with her, it is the father who is relevant.
The issue has nothing to do with her, it is the father who is relevant.
Yes, that was
my point too.
I must be missing something.
Taken on face value,she went back home. She obviously loves him and don't forget, he trusted her to come and do what's best for herself and her kids. What else is there to know? All is good. :p
Now who's going to adopt poor old pad foot?
Given that they're the kids of a drug boss, I'd say they're chances of becoming president are slim to start with.
Hang on, I just thought of the current field of candidates. Hmmm. Maybe not.
Isn't she his 4th or 5th wife? Given his profession, I shudder to think of what happened to the first ones.
There's one of those near me. We almost accidentally went in once, and only realized just in time that it was a boobies restaurant with shitty bar food. :)
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Hair. Mullet Bros. :lol2:
The Amish.
Always good for a laugh.
And a barn. Or quilt. Or a quilted barn.
The Mullets were jealous of his mullet
along the lines of "I was driving into a tunnel and I saw the sign that said "please remove your sunglasses when entering tunnel" and I thought, How did they know I was wearing sunglasses?
that's an old joke
It was in a local newspaper. I think the guy also wrote in to say he and his family were upset by the slow children signs too! :confused:
Colton, OR has two signs at an intersection:
[ Colton Elementary School -> ]
[ Shooting Range -> ]
FAILBLOG recenly showed two signs on one post.
Children at play.
Shotgun hunting only.
Lions and Tigers and Bears!
IM be careful on the way home, girl! Don't get eaten. :D
Lions and Tigers and Bears!
IM be careful on the way home, girl! Don't get eaten. :D
Even scarier, Pico, my family is going to really near Zanesville (hocking hills) this weekend. Wouldn't it be totally freaky to see a tiger?
Just as long as it was from inside of their car.
Because they have been held in captivity for so long, I don't think these animals are going to be a real threat to anyone...but I certainly wouldn't want to test that theory.
:facepalm:
OMG...I just saw the other thread.
NEVERMIND.
:nuts:
You can never have too much stuff about escaped dangerous wild animals!
I know because that's been the chatter in the office. All. Day.
;)
You can never have too much stuff about [COLOR="Red"]escaped[/COLOR] dangerous wild animals!
Yabbut, they didn't excape. Dude let 'em out.
Popdigr and one of his hunting buddies hunted southern Illinois several yrs ago. Popdigr came back to the truck one morning to find his buddy already there. They had the typical conversation about what did ya see, etc. The plan was for hunting buddy to stay on stand all day, and Pop asked him why he got down early. He said that, about dawn,
mountain lions started yowling,
close. He didn't know what to think at first, then it dawned on him what he was hearing. He said every hair on his head stood up then. He also said that was the first time he'd ever hunted defensively, and did so all the way to the truck. Said he felt like he was back in Korea during the war. They talked to game wardens later that day, and were told that some guy just up the road had a dozen or so mountain lions in a huge pen, and that there were no loose/wild mountain lions in the vicinity.
They finished their hunting elsewhere.
Lima beans is as good a reason as any.
:D
last night I heard on CBS that there are 2400 Bengal tigers left in the world and that dude in Zanesville had 18 of them and THEY WERE ALL SHOT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT. 18 Bengal tigers shot because some asshole decided to take himself out.
This upsets me.
last night I heard on CBS that there are 2400 Bengal tigers left in the world and that dude in Zanesville had 18 of them and THEY WERE ALL SHOT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT. 18 Bengal tigers shot because some asshole decided to take himself out.
This upsets me.
Me too. It's very sad.
Our wonderful Gov Kasich let Strickland's ban on exotic animals expire. He said it wasn't workable.
Before leaving office, former Gov. Ted Strickland issued a ban barring people from bringing exotic animals into Ohio.
It also prohibited people convicted of animal cruelty, like Terry Thompson, from owning exotic animals.
Under that plan, the Ohio Department of Natural Resources would have been in charge of enforcing the ban, but the governor said that would have exceeded their authority.
Kasich defended his actions on Wednesday.
"What had been proposed frankly wasn't workable," said Kasich. "The complications connected to this and as a result we formed a working group."
If some sort of action isn't taken soon, Ohio will continue to be one of a handful of states with virtually no regulation or private ownership of dangerous wild animals.
In Ohio. Tenth in the nation in population density.
Kasich is a fart. Anything Strickland did he ripped apart. (I'm a poet and I know it.)
Poor guy was depressed and pissed off so he let all the animals go before killing himself. Fuck him. I hope there's a special hell for him.
http://www.onntv.com/content/stories/2011/10/19/story-gov.kasich-animal-law.htmllast night I heard on CBS that there are 2400 Bengal tigers left in the world and that dude in Zanesville had 18 of them and THEY WERE ALL SHOT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT. 18 Bengal tigers shot because some asshole decided to take himself out.
This upsets me.
Why are we outsourcing our tigers?! They took our tigers' jobs!
Kasick - a Lehman brothers nightmare come true for Ohioans.
Is there anything he can't fuck up?
Kasick - a Lehman brothers nightmare come true for Ohioans.
Is there anything he can't fuck up?
Nope, not much!
Effing USA Today, which is out next to the register where you pay for your coffee, had pics of a lion and tiger, dead, from this incident.
Bullshit to sell a paper. Do they show pics of dead people after some nutjob like this man went on a rampage?
I really didn't want to see that this morning.
Front page of the Washington Post too.
Very sad.
I've heard that there are more tigers as private pets in the state of Texas alone than there are left in the wild in the entire world.
Which is kind of good, since it is a safeguard against extinction, but is otherwise bloody depressing.
I just don't get why you'd want to have a tiger as a pet - or any other large feline for that matter, or other non domestic animals really. I can only figure it's for the kudos of being able to say you own one, and what's the point in that?
Well I reckon Mr Thompson had no problems at all with burglars.
One more reason why people hate the TSA:
Loaded gun in checked bag: Take a later flight.
Express unhappiness at being fondled in public: Your cell is this way.
It's kind of weird that it went unnoticed then it FELL out of a duffel bag? What, like the duffel bag was running around open?
There is probably more to the story that is not being reported ... if there weren't, the owner would not have been able to take a later flight to Portland. It's not weird at all. Checked baggage. It didn't go through the groping station.
^^wss^^
They find all kinds of things that go through checked baggage. This is where the next issue will arise. (read bomb) There is no way they can search through all the checked baggage. It's just not going to happen - matter how much you inconvenience everyone.
I still don't get a gun just 'falling' out of a duffle bag. That's just bs.
IM - please don't cast asparagus - whatever that means.
A lot of unlocked bags and cases are opened for un-official inspection by vigilante inspectors who are looking to supplement their income. Sometimes, they don't get the bag closed in time before someone shows up.
happens all the time. All the time.
Ok, I didn't think about that. It makes sense now.
I guess I don't 'think outside the box' these days. So much goes right past me.
Otherwise i'd be a billionaire.
Maybe you just need a bigger box.
That's it! By jove. man, I think you've got it!
We need to significantly increase the size and capacity of our boxes...
I'm in. How does this work exactly?
Well, first we have to figure out a supplier for our boxes...
Maybe you just need a bigger box.
That's it! By jove. man, I think you've got it!
We need to significantly increase the size and capacity of our boxes...
I'm in. How does this work exactly?
OMG - SOOO not answering that!
If I could think outside the box I would have a clue what you two are alluding to! :blush:
Y'know.....once we've sorted out achieving bigger boxes, well then we'd need to fill them.
Classic...any ideas on how we'd go about filling our boxes?
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Classic...any ideas on how we'd go about filling our boxes?
That question would be best directed to HLJ. ;)
Y'know.....once we've sorted out achieving bigger boxes, well then we'd need to fill them.
Classic...any ideas on how we'd go about filling our boxes?
I have some experience here, as I've filled a few boxes in my day. Ironically, whenever I'm thinking outside the box, what I'm thinking about is how to get back *inside* the box.
So, no help really. Good luck with your box though.
There was a video that Pam posted a link to a few days ago, but I can't find it now. It's mostly about a guy riding around in a big box. That's what you need - a big box that a guy can ride around in.
Dog fed LSD by naked couple is hit by car
Police said a dachshund was hit by a car and injured Sunday night after it had been fed LSD by its owners.
CBS Affiliate WGCL reports that police responded to a call Sunday evening of a naked man and woman running down Pinehurst Road.
According to Captain Harold Thomas, officers knocked on the door of a house and Nicholas Modrich answered the door naked.
According to police, Modrich and Jamie Hughes, both 25, told officers they had taken LSD, and had given some to their dog Oscar, who was missing.
"They were tripping pretty hard," Captain Thomas told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Officers began to search for Oscar, and learned he had been hit by a car on a nearby road.
After being hit, Thomas said, the dog bit Modrich's mother and brother.
Gwinnett Animal Control took Oscar, but Modrich's family requested he be taken to a private veterinarian, police said. His medical condition is not known.
Police said a search of the house uncovered drug paraphernalia and marijuana. No LSD was found in the home.
Grrrrrrrrrrr
Assholes.
There is no way they can search through all the checked baggage. It's just not going to happen - matter how much you inconvenience everyone.
ALL baggage is checked leaving Sri Lanka, because of their civil war.
But all it means is a lot of bemused Westerners watching while armed men stir around their underwear before waving them on.
I can't see how it's effective in the slightest.
Except as a fetish thrill.
Where does Sri Lanka fit into this story?
According to the Los Angeles Times, the workers were loading a duffel bag onto Alaska Airlines Flight 563, which was bound for Portland, Ore., when the loaded .38-caliber handgun was discovered. Sources told The Times that the man told authorities he had flown out of Portland with the same bag, with the gun inside, three days earlier.
because sri lanka is a place where checked baggage is searched, a counter example to the previous assessment that checked baggage could not be checked.
Oh, ok. So Sri Lanka is similar to the US? Is their airport similar to that of those in this article? Do they handle more or less people and/or planes. I dunno anything about it.
How about Moscow, Beijing, Taiwan, London ... Is there a valid comparison?
Prolly best to take London off that list. They don't handle luggage as such...
Where does Sri Lanka fit into this story?
because sri lanka is a place where checked baggage is searched, a counter example to the previous assessment that checked baggage could not be checked.
Ding ding ding!
Oh, ok. So Sri Lanka is similar to the US? Is their airport similar to that of those in this article? Do they handle more or less people and/or planes. I dunno anything about it.
How about Moscow, Beijing, Taiwan, London ... Is there a valid comparison?
I didn't mean it to be part of an argument.
My post does say I thought it was of little value.
I was just adding some local colour to the mix.
If you ever get to watch Border Control, do so.
It's an Aussie programme, about people, things, boats, goods, things and pets and things coming into Australia.
Given that it has no land borders, they can be as strict as they like.
And they are.
Given that it has no land borders, smugglers will be as inventive as they can. And they are.
Obviously the programme can only show those they've caught (and the odd suspicious person who is cleared) but it does make the security look bloody efficient.
I prefer Animal Rescue (Aussie again) but it doesn't fit in this thread...
because sri lanka is a place where checked baggage is searched, a counter example to the previous assessment that checked baggage could not be checked.
What has once been checked can never be unchecked.
Prolly best to take London off that list. They don't handle luggage as such...
Please explain
What has once been checked can never be unchecked.
true, but it can be routed through Denver, never to be seen again.
Oh no! My wife flew out of Denver just a few hours ago.
Jesus Jesus! You didn't check her did you?
I didn't mean it to be part of an argument.
My post does say I thought it was of little value.
I was just adding some local colour to the mix.
~snip~
Sri Lanka is so much fun to say, anyway. So is Ceylon.
Pretty words!
Umm ... TSA doesn't examine checked baggage? WTF?
I get the point of being stricter with carry-on stuff, but checked bags could still have, you know, a b - o - m - b. Like Lockerbie, eh?
Would you want to open a suitcase that might have a-b-o-m-b in it?
I believe the checked baggage is scanned in other ways for explosives, etc. that can be dangerous from a distance. Carry on baggage is checked for those things too, but also for things that can be dangerous in the hands of a person. Observe that it is possible to check a handgun, but not permitted in carry on baggage.
Checked bags at the Austin airport all pass through a machine which is somehow supposed to detect the presence of any type of explosive powder or even residue.
Checked bags at the Austin airport all pass through a machine which is somehow supposed to detect the presence of any type of explosive powder or even residue.
Which should have detected the ammunition in the gun, shouldn't it?
(I know, different airport)
Who knew? :mg:
The conclusion:
Sunday morning news shows do the most to help people learn about current events,
while some outlets, especially Fox News, lead people to be even less informed than
those who they don’t watch any news at all.
:lol2:
Some news...Comedy helps...
Exposure to Sunday morning news shows helps respondents on this question:
seeing these programs leads to an 11-point increase in the likelihood of getting the answer right.
Listening to NPR also helps, but the biggest aid to answering correctly is
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, which leads to a 6-point decrease
in identifying the protestors as Republicans,
and a 12-point increase in the likelihood of giving the correct answer.
Ky. Church Bans Interracial Couples From Becoming Members
Read more:
http://www.wlky.com/news/29901119/detail.html#ixzz1fOZSyHrkGulnare Free Will Baptist Church
Seems "Free Will" only applies if it jibes with my free will. :lol:
The Associated Press
Dec. 4, 2011 - 9:44 am
Pastor says he'll void vote on interracial couples
PIKEVILLE, Ky. -- The pastor at a Kentucky church says he will nullify
a vote taken by members of his congregation that bans interracial couples.
That's all and good.
But then I read the comments and found this very appropriate.
Comment on this article by Akiva David Miller
If the church is typically composed of 40 individuals
and 9 of them voted for a hateful, bigoted policy,
that means that the church is pretty much 1/4 racist bigots; that fact
ought to make any racial minority or mixed race couple feel very welcome.
At this point in time the question of whether the church should
welcome mixed race couples isn't the core issue,
the core issue is whether the church is going to welcome those
who practice bigotry and hate in direct contradiction of scripture.
Either the bigots get expelled or the church in practice willfully harbors bigotry and hatred.
.
I think we need to let these small churches stay in obscurity. They do do not deserve any attention and do NOT reflect the views of the majority.
Screaming RACIST CHURCH is great and sells, but it does more harm than good.
JMO.
I think we need to let these small churches stay in obscurity. They do do not deserve any attention and do NOT reflect the views of the majority.
Screaming RACIST CHURCH is great and sells, but it does more harm than good.
JMO.
WRONG.
Your position is exactly the wrong position. I think the only way, the best way to make these hateful hypocrites shrivel up and die is to poison them with sunlight like this. You are right, until they'd gotten some publicity, this kind of retarded unAmerican stance would have likely been sustainable. But when *I* followed the link today, the same link now points to a story about the pastor of the church VOIDING the vote of the congregation.
I have to think the exposure of their racist bigotry produced some positive force, some shamefulness that helped motivate the pastor to act as he has.
The whole idea of denying a mixed race couple membership in the church is bullshit anyhow.
We'll just have to disagree. Utopia does not and never will exist. Publicizing these people only leads more of the weak minded to them, increases their ability to generate money from a broader base and reinforces their message.
WRONG.
Man, if you ever barked at me in real life like that, I'd fuck you up.
And by "fuck you up" I mean I would glare at you for a moment and then silently move to another table on the other side of the room.
There is a nice comfortable seat for you right here UT.
I'll buy the first round too.
How to shoot yourself in the foot without a gun...
Detroit Free Press
Hope Yen
Dec 4, 2011
Postal cuts to slow delivery of first-class mail
WASHINGTON — Facing bankruptcy, the U.S. Postal Service is pushing ahead
with unprecedented cuts to first-class mail next spring that will slow delivery and,
for the first time in 40 years, eliminate the chance for stamped letters to arrive the next day.
The changes would provide short-term relief, but ultimately could prove counterproductive,
pushing more of America's business onto the Internet.
They could slow everything from check payments to Netflix's DVDs-by-mail,
add costs to mail-order prescription drugs, and threaten the existence
of newspapers and time-sensitive magazines delivered by postal carrier
to far-flung suburban and rural communities.
If this goes thru, pay attention to DUE DATES on your credit card statements
.
What harm is caused by shining light on this situation? Really? Maybe it wigs you out? Or... embarrasses you? or... I don't know. What kind of harm comes from the openness?
I could see harm if the response were different, say, firebombing the church. But that didn't happen. Calling them out for their stance, I think that's a good thing.
I don't see how
Publicizing these people only leads more of the weak minded to them, increases their ability to generate money from a broader base and reinforces their message.
Maybe. For those who already believe that way. But for those who were more neutral, I think this kind of exposure helps them make a decision. At least it will be an informed one, rather than just based on a kind of silent association. How would it have been better if this never got any press?
How would it have been better if this never got any press?
all 12 of them would die eventually.
:right:
V, thanks for your recent thoughts.
all 12 of them would die eventually.
:right:
But new bigots will rise in their place. I gotta go with V on this one. The best way to kill bigotry is to expose it.
I find this works even in small more personal situations. When I hear veiled bigotry, I repeat it back, but explicitly. "Are you saying you think that [veiled bigotry made explicit]?".
People will often backpedal when their opinions are brought out into the open.
I was being sarcastic - see the "right" smilie.
OTOH I think that exposing bigots has worked really well, for example WBC.
A Tennessee couple has lost everything after their home burned to the ground as firefighters watched and did nothing.
Vicky Bell told WPSD-TV that she called 911 when her mobile home in Obion County caught fire. Firefighters responded but did not put out the blaze because she does not subscribe to the local fire service ( http://bit.ly/t639Wo).
Bell says she could "look out my mom's trailer and see the trucks sitting at a distance."
Rural residents who want fire protection can get service from the nearby town of South Fulton, but they must pay a $75-a-year fee. South Fulton Mayor David Crocker said that if the city's firefighters responded to people who didn't pay there would be no incentive for anyone to subscribe. He said firefighters will help when people are in danger, regardless of whether they have paid.
Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/12/06/4103721/tennessee-home-burns-as-firefighters.html#ixzz1frZFHMNZ.
Wow.
You sure do things in a funny way over there.
Extortion isn't funny. :mad2:
People in rural areas have strong opinions about the role of government. They would be pissed if you forced them to pay taxes that would cover fire protection. But this is the other side of that position.
South Fulton, TN is about 5 miles from my ancestor's homesteads
and my summer stomping grounds, so I took an interest in this article.
For me, it does not pass the sniff (Snopes) test.
This looks to me more like a political ploy that was picked up
and spread across the nation by the news media.
Here is a 2010 article with the
same story, but with different names.
Yahoo News
Oct 5, 2010
Rural Tennessee fire sparks conservative ideological debate
Here's the short version of what happened:
In rural Obion County, homeowners must pay $75 annually
for fire protection services from the nearby city of South Fulton.
If they don't pay the fee and their home catches fire, tough luck --
even if firefighters are positioned just outside the home with hoses at the ready.
When Cranick's house caught fire last week, and he couldn't contain the blaze with garden hoses, he called 911.
During the emergency call, he offered to pay all expenses related to the Fire Department's defense of his home,
but the South Fulton firefighters refused to do anything.
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The incident has sparked a debate in many corners of the Web.
Writers for the National Review, arguably the nation's most influential right-leaning voice,
have seized on the episode to discuss the relative merits of
compassionate conservatism versus a hard-line libertarianism
P.S. The embedded video of this incident is
"no longer available"
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This is from a 2008 report presented to the Obion County Study Committee
A Presentation Regarding The Establishment And Implementation of a County-Wide Fire Department
The municipal fire departments which utilize a subscription service
are not bound to and do not respond to fires on rural properties
which do not have a subscription for fire service.
The only rural property owners guaranteed to receive fire protection services are those who choose to pay for it.
It they choose not to purchase an annual subscription and require fire protection services,
they fall on the mercy of a municipal department who provide services on an as needed basis.
When such occurs, the responding fire department normally provides those services without compensation.
According to survey information, over 75% of all municipal fire department’s structure calls are rural.
All fire departments in Obion County charge a $500.00 fee per call in rural areas,
but collections are, less than 50% and the fire departments have no way of legally collecting the charge.
Therefore, the service was provided at the expense of the municipal tax payer.
... incentive for anyone to subscribe ....
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Extortion isn't funny. :mad2:
I think you're off base on this one, spexx. This is just how it works in the country. You probably get fire coverage through your taxes. You
pay in case the fire department needs to come out to your home.
If you live in unincorporated areas of the boonies, you can choose to pay a yearly fee to the fire department or not. Everyone understands this and knows what the risks are.
Ever see "Gangs of New York"? If it's not extortion, it's still a shitty way to treat your fellow human beings, let alone your neighbors and those in your community. We have volunteer fire departments here. They ask for donations. If you don't donate, they still put out your fire.
: stares at you guys in amazement :
Man that's crazier than your health care thingy. Enjoy your feedom.
LMAO, just noticed that I typed feedom not freedom. Imma leave that one.
: stares at you guys in amazement :
Man that's crazier than your health care thingy. Enjoy your feedom.
How is it done there?
Cities have a metropolitan fire service, funded by the state government, with fully professional firefighters. All fires are dealt with for free. A system false alarm - your shopping centre computer keeps calling the fire brigade when there isn't a fire - cost (last I heard) $600.
Rural areas have a volunteer fire service funded by the state government with volunteer firefighters who train two to four evenings a week. They do a bit of fundraising, but again all fires are dealt with for free. I think they also charge for system false alarms.
A malicious false alarm is a criminal offence.
The country firies are supposed to deal with local structure fires, car crashes and bushfires. For the latter, having a large number of firies to call on in emergencies is crucial.
The metro firies deal with city stuctures, high-rises, industrial fires, and help with bush fires, although (at least in South Australia) their help with bush fires is limited - their insurance does not cover their firetrucks unless all wheels of the truck are on a sealed road. Otherwise, the truck officer is personally liable for the truck. [/brother of a firefighter in both services]
General rule is that if it is burning and it shouldn't be, we put it the #$%& out ASAP.
That is basically how it works here as well. This situation in TN is by far an exception tot he rule, and seems like would only happen in an incredibly rural area. Lives first, property second. And it seems that in that particular area, residents have no choice (well, besides not living in the middle of nowhere) but to rely on another town's fire dept. Mutual aid is what we call it when one area's dept has to cover for another's. In those cases you are pretty much guaranteed a large bill for services provided, since you pay no taxes to the town of the service that responded.
They're on their way. I'll wave bye bye to the rich folks who don't impress the aliens.
I'll be here until Dec 24th. After that, I will be somewhere else.
Rural areas have a volunteer fire service funded by the state government with volunteer firefighters who train two to four evenings a week. They do a bit of fundraising, but again all fires are dealt with for free. I think they also charge for system false alarms.
Then it's not for free, is it? Someone pays those taxes. In this case, they're just giving the people the option of
not paying the tax. Personally, I think they shouldn't give people that option, because someone's always dumb enough to take it.
I wonder if your homeowner's insurance refuses to pay out if your house burns down because you didn't pay the firefighters' tax.
Another shooter at Virginia Tech. So far two dead, killer at large.
May be isolated incidents. Or may be another 30+ dead.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/08/reports-of-shots-fired-at-virginia-tech/The second time it happens you start to think, "What's the matter with Virginia Tech?"
The people I know who admit to having gone to Virginia Tech talk about it fairly often and with pride. They love the place.
The second time it happens you start to think, "What's the matter with Virginia Tech?"
Guns on campus
Then it's not for free, is it? Someone pays those taxes. In this case, they're just giving the people the option of not paying the tax. Personally, I think they shouldn't give people that option, because someone's always dumb enough to take it.
I wonder if your homeowner's insurance refuses to pay out if your house burns down because you didn't pay the firefighters' tax.
okay, Australian constitution time.
Only the Federal government has the power to charge taxes, which we do mostly with income tax and a goods and services (sales) tax. The federal government spends much of this on social security, defense, tertiary education, and primary health care (your local GP) and divvies the rest up among the states, who spend it on hospitals, schools, police, firefighters and medium sized roads*. And probably a lot of other BS we don't really need :right: . Local councils collect "rates" based on property values, collect garbage, fix pot-holes and regulate development/building approvals.
So calling the fire brigade is as free as calling the police. They attend based on need and are funded by the taxpayer. There is no option of paying or not paying a firefighter levy.
*IMHO this is a massively inefficient arrangement and the state governments should be pretty much abolished. Never gonna happen.
The second time it happens you start to think, "What's the matter with Virginia Tech?"
They have too many cans.
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Bullshit it "got loose." Those two orange rectangles have been deliberately leaned against the gas pedal. As soon as the guy throws them off at 28 seconds, the cart stops driving.
Some dumbass high school students are going to be brought up on charges for this, if they can only figure out which ones did it.
omg that is so funny!
Except for the people who died.
I'm with clod, its the only plausible explanation.
Barney Frank offers a lesson for the Youth Of America:
Rep. Frank's Moobs
Fat old Democrats just can't rock the silk tee.
This seems less Politics than a Current Event.
Guns on campus
You meant "mean, murderous suicides from off-campus, on campus."
They had a system in place, they implemented it, and it worked well. They should keep it. Only thing they could do better is acquire the reputation of being able to take the bad guy out by shooting him first. This kinda redirects them...
Why they hell would he do this?
NUKE SCIENTIST EXCHANGE PLANNED
Deputy Energy Secretary Daniel B. Poneman is working on a major Obama administration initiative that would renew scientist exchanges between U.S. nuclear weapons laboratories and Chinese nuclear facilities.
The idea is aimed at promoting openness and transparency by China’s military about its secret, large-scale buildup of nuclear weapons, according to U.S. officials.
Critics say the plan is similar to an exchange program in the 1990s that sent U.S. nuclear scientists to China and produced one of the worst cases of nuclear espionage. Secrets about every deployed warhead in the U.S. arsenal were compromised, including the W-88 small nuclear warhead deployed on submarine-launched missiles.
“We’ve seen this movie before, and it has a bad ending,” one official said.
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/21/inside-the-ring-105581724/Are you opposed to arms control negotiations, mercy?
The first steps of such negotiations include exchanges like this. The whole slander about Wu is stupid fearmongering. You're smart enough to ignore it for a much more important goal such as a nuclear arms control treaty.
v - Didn't we do something like this already and get royally screwed?
So
I read a little story about that California arsonist, Harry Burkhart, this morning. This is the guy who burned dozens of cars in California, and cursed out the USA in the courtroom during his mom's fraud trial. Your typical unhinged nut.
Apparently, the local cops sent security footage to the feds, and they were able to ID him from that footage. It's all anonymous sources, but did the the Feds just recognize him the way we recognize people, or is facial recognition technology advanced to the point now that he was identified by computer?
Burkhart was taken into custody after authorities received a tip from federal officials who recognized him in a security video that showed a pony-tailed man emerging from a garage where a car was set ablaze.
"When they saw the security footage, they recognized him and they contacted the arson task force," a State Department official told The Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigations are ongoing.
Especially as bad as security footage is. Any local footage I've seen (if you recognize this man) is so crappy it could be ME and I wouldn't know it.
v - Didn't we do something like this already and get royally screwed?
Yes. The nuclear weapon does not go around the squirrel
or is facial recognition technology advanced to the point now that he was identified by computer?
I think this is pretty hot topic in security, I've seen TV shows where thay can follow an individual around town as they appear on different security cameras, the eye - eye - mouth triangle spacing is apparently quite distinctive, even from a blurry picture, could certainly be used to narrow a search to a reasonable number of people.
I think this is pretty hot topic in security, I've seen TV shows
where thay can follow an individual around town as they appear on different security cameras,
the eye - eye - mouth triangle spacing is apparently quite distinctive,
even from a blurry picture, could certainly be used to [COLOR="DarkRed"]narrow a search to a reasonable number[/COLOR] of people.
I suppose that part is possible and likely true.
But if the squirrel turns it's head and looks at the hunter out of the corner of it's eyes,
wouldn't the triangles have different ratios of sides and angles as it moves around the tree ?
Given the millions of faces and the limited number of pixels in a screen display,
this technology could be misused the same way "fiber analysis" and "tooth marks"
in flesh wounds have been in the past.
Computerized recognition might well be sufficient to point to
an individual from a relatively small group of
known arsonists.
But it makes for good PR for the FBI and TV programming.
No. Technology CAN pick you out of a crowd. That tech was pioneered by the casinos, who use it to enforce blacklists of cheaters. If you get tossed out of a casino, you are banned from the rest by the time you get to the next one. Even with disguises, they can find you.
I can only assume that the government has even better technology available.
I think this is pretty hot topic in security, I've seen TV shows where thay can follow an individual around town as they appear on different security cameras, the eye - eye - mouth triangle spacing is apparently quite distinctive, even from a blurry picture, could certainly be used to narrow a search to a reasonable number of people.
I saw that movie... wasn't Denzel Washington in it? He had to make a great show of staying under roofs/awnings etc. And there was a master tech geek located in a dance club/strip club etc that got him... some slack... what the hell movie was that??
No. Technology CAN pick you out of a crowd. That tech was pioneered by the casinos, who use it to enforce blacklists of cheaters. If you get tossed out of a casino, you are banned from the rest by the time you get to the next one. Even with disguises, they can find you.
I can only assume that the government has even better technology available.
This, except that after 9/11 the govt turned to the casinos to learn how to do it.
The casinos are using clear pictures, not half-assed video.
For $50, anyone can get clear, color video these days. That grainy footage you see? Either older equipment or improperly installed. Many places now offer you a monitor so you can see yourself. Check out the video quality for yourself.
I saw that movie... wasn't Denzel Washington in it? He had to make a great show of staying under roofs/awnings etc. And there was a master tech geek located in a dance club/strip club etc that got him... some slack... what the hell movie was that??
That would be "Enemy of the state" with Will Smith an Gene Hackman.
That would be "Enemy of the state" with Will Smith an Gene Hackman.
Damm. Are you sure. I thought it head lined Obama as the Enemy of the State.
For $50, anyone can get clear, color video these days. That grainy footage you see? Either older equipment or improperly installed. Many places now offer you a monitor so you can see yourself. Check out the video quality for yourself.
I was referring to the footage, they showed on the news, that the feds used to nail that guy.
I was referring to the footage, they showed on the news, that the feds used to nail that guy.
probably it had been down-res'd a bunch of times, you know a copy of a copy of a bad xerox of a photostat of a copy of a copy of a copy.
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Vietnam surgery removes tumor twice man's weight[/SIZE]
(CNN) -- A Vietnamese man is recovering in the intensive care unit Friday, a day after surgery that completely removed from his right leg a tumor twice his body weight, according to the hospital in Ho Chi Minh City.
The growing tumor had rendered the patient, Nguyen Duy Hai, virtually immobile until his surgery.
The excised tumor weighed 180 pounds (82 kilos), according to the hospital, a bit less than the 200 pounds (90 kilos) estimated before surgery.
Hai, 31, of Da Lat City, has Von Recklinghausen's neurofibromatosis, said Dr. Jean-Marcel Guillon, chief executive officer of FV Hospital, where the 12-hour procedure was performed.
The autosomal dominant hereditary disorder is the same disease that contributed to the extraordinarily large head of Joseph Merrick, whose story was dramatized in the 1980 film, "The Elephant Man," explained Guillon.
The tumor "may return," Guillon wrote in an e-mail to CNN, "but we can operate him again, and it won't never reach such a size anymore."
Doctors expect that Hai's cardiac and pulmonary functions will return to normal during the next 10 days. After that, Hai faces rehabilitation, physical therapy and possible help from the hospital's clinical psychologist to deal with issues pertaining to body image, Guillon said. "This patient lived all his life with this tumor. It was part of him."
Hai also needs to learn how to do things that his body had forgotten, including using the leg he had never used normally, Guillon added.
The tumor was first discovered when Hai was four years old and had grown to its enormous size since then.
Hai had undergone a surgery to amputate his leg -- and with it the tumor -- in 1997, but in 2001, the tumor grew, and no doctors agreed to operate on him, according to the hospital.
Furthermore, his family could not afford surgery, and very few surgeons in Vietnam can treat neurofibromas, Guillon said.
CNNyeah, I saw that too. My WTF meter has redlined
Excuse me, I'm going to go puke until my face falls off. Then I might dig into my brain through my ear and try to remove that image. Because O.M.G.
just when you though it was safe.....he said "hay wilbur, i want hay not tube steak!"
A south Texas man was arrested after being accused of having sex with horses at two different ranches in Hidalgo County
Cirilo Castillo, 41, was arrested on two counts of cruelty to animals and two counts of criminal trespass in Edinburg, about 10 miles north of McAllen. He was held on $60,000 bond at the Hidalgo County Jail
that is a weird bunch down there in south texas. i was down there for 8 months. unfortunately.
here's the
linkPoliticians from Darwin (think, Crocodile Dundee territory) are far more manly than those from down south.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-01-08/mp-punched-while-making-citizens-arrest/3762880
"When he realised I wasn't going to let him go he punched me several times in the face, so subsequently I took necessary action to stop him from doing that and sat on him essentially until the police arrived," he said.
"I hit him back, basically, he fell over. The owner of the car keys assisted me in apprehending this fellow.
"The other fellow also received his injuries so it's now up to the courts to decide if he's guilty for assault."
Legend!
worked for me - just in case
try
this one
ETA - sorry, same link as his.
Now they both work. :rolleyes:
wanna just delete my post then?
No, it makes it double good.
Bad link? Why I'll beat the living crap out of it until it does work!
See?
‘Human Barbie’ Gives 7-Year-Old Daughter Liposuction Voucher
The UK’s self-proclaimed “Human Barbie” gave her 7-year-old daughter an unusual stocking stuffer this Christmas: a £7,000 voucher for liposuction. The holiday gift was a follow-up to Poppy’s most recent birthday present from her mum: A £6,000 voucher for breast augmentation.
‘She asks for surgery all the time. She wants to look good and lipo is one of those procedures that will always come in handy,” 51-year-old Sarah Burge told the UK’s Daily Mail. “I see these vouchers as investing in her future, like saving money for her education.”
Last year Burge, who says she taught her daughter how to pole dance when the girl was 6, defended giving her daughter a breast augmentation voucher when she told Closer Magazine, “Poppy begged me for a boob job, so I gave her the voucher so she can have it after she’s 16, when it’s legal. If she develops naturally big boobs, she can have something else done with it.”
ABC She's spending quite big figures on her own figure. I wonder where she got the money.
Stupid husband?
I've been thinking that by the end of this year I might need cosmetic surgery for all the spare skin I'm going to have, but i don't think I'll be spending even six thousand pounds on it. lol There's no way I could justify it for one thing.
Can she use the voucher for the counselling for her inevitable body-image disorders?
Not the very worst parent in the world, but damn, she's trying.
Gun, whatever else you lay at her door, the woman pays her own way.
She works as a referral agent for plastic surgery, and on any slow news day she knows she can get her name and face in the paper. She's a self-promotor of course. But it's always the right-wing reactionary press that feature her and encourage her.
Whether this is as bad or worse than the purported gifts is open to discussion.
Many D-list celebs use their children to make news.
There are plenty of worse off children out there. She is growing up in her mother's skewed world, but it's a world many women understand.
She's not being starved, beaten, sexually abused, kept away from school or exposed to drugs/ alcohol/ prostitution. I'm not comparing like for like, I'm just saying as a way of preparing a child to exist in the outside world, she's not really warping her. Better she thinks perfect boobs will make her popular than that Daddies can hit Mummies when they're drunk.
I don't support her, I've just shifted my moral balance a little since meeting children who face problems at home. And I work in a generally affluent area.
The ideal is educated children with a safe home life and a positive self image.
And yummy healthy snacks for all and parent(s) that tuck you in at night and read you stories.
. Better she thinks perfect boobs will make her popular than that Daddies can hit Mummies when they're drunk.
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Oh nicely put.
[eta] Especially given perfect boobs
will probably make her popular...
The mother is a self serving attention-whore and she is teaching her daughter to be the same way.
This has nothing to do with daddy hitting mommy.
The mother is a self serving attention-whore and she is teaching her daughter to be the same way.
This has nothing to do with daddy hitting mommy.
Children learn from their parent(s)/ primary carers.
A girl brought up to believe image is everything still has a better start in life than many children.
It's not ideal. It's certainly not my ideal.
But it's not abuse.
I think she's promoting self-esteem. That woman is FUGLY and thinks all the work has made her BEEYOOTEEFUL.
Maybe her daughter won't mind being ugly too. :right:
Sometimes I hate you IM, mostly right now because I totally agree with you.
pssst, don't tell anyone!
That's it. 2012, dogs and cats, living together, Classic and Infi agreeing ... we're doomed, I tell ya, doooooomed!
Look Zen, I'm just trying to keep this up for another 11 months and 11 days.
two of the four posters of the apocalypse...
two of the four posters of the apocalypse...
Trolling Newb
Flame war
Apostrophe's
Blue screen of death
four posters of the apocalypse...
Beds of death?
Totally WTF, but I guess it could have gone in politics as well ...
State governments have taken a number of different steps to balance their books in recent years. Texas Gov. Rick Perry (remember him?) proposed a new tax on strip clubs, for example, and a Utah state rep. suggested saving $60 million per year by abolishing the 12th grade. But no proposal struck as much metaphorical gold as Arizona's decision to sell off the state capitol (and a whole bunch of other state properties, such as maximum security prisons) for $735 million in 2009. Republican Gov. Jan Brewer signed off on the deal, and the state now leases the House and Senate chambers from a private real estate company at a considerable long-term cost.
But now, presumably still a little embarrassed by the whole episode, presented with the unfamiliar feeling of cash on hand, and rapidly approaching the state's 100th birthday, Brewer wants the Arizona capitol back in the hands of Arizonans. Here's the Yuma Sun:
The move will cost the state $105 million out of its current budget surplus. Brewer press aide Matthew Benson said the state has the cash.
Benson acknowledged the state actually got only $81 million for the state House, the Senate and the nine-story executive tower that includes Brewer's office when it negotiated a "sale-leaseback" arrangement in 2010...
"Most of our Capitol complex, including the building we gather in today, is not ours,'' Brewer said in her State of the State speech delivered in the House building. "So ... to make all of our Capitol truly ours once again, I'm asking that you send me a bill by Statehood Day that allows me to buy back the Capitol.''
The rest of the story on
Mother JonesAbolish the 12th grade! And what, have them go directly from 11th to 13th grade? That sounds nuts.
Pa. Man Jailed for Having Sex With Horses, Cow -
Again
A Pennsylvania man who admitted having sex with 10 horses and a cow
must spend a weekend in jail after having his probation revoked because he told
a counselor he'd done it again.
Prosecutors say 44-year-old Paul Ganter was nearly finished with court supervision
when he was ordered Tuesday by a Columbia County judge to serve time instead.
Ganter was sentenced to a year of probation last January when he pleaded guilty
to disorderly conduct. The Press Enterprise of Bloomsburg reports Ganter was
charged after having sex with the animals and filming some of the activity at a
farm in Main Township.
...having sex with 10 horses and a cow...
Slut.
Yer allowed ta kill 'em and eat em, yer allowed to rope 'em and throw 'em, yer allowed ta brand 'em with hot iron, yer allowed to cut their horns and their balls off, but yer not allowed to stick yer dick in 'em. Cause that would be animal cruelty, right?
... the four posters of the apocalypse...
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"It's half full."
"It's half empty."
"It's twice as big as it needs to be."
"Make up your minds, I'm dyin' here."
Pa. Man Jailed for Having Sex With Horses, Cow - Again
Did he get them off or did he rape them?
The former should be considered as deep petting (pun intended) while the latter is just animal cruelty.
As an animal lover, he should ask PETA to vouch for him.
Check what the 'E' in PETA stands for.
People Eating Tasty Animals
...but yer not allowed to stick yer dick in 'em. Cause that would be animal cruelty, right?
Like throwing a hotdog down a hallway.
Like opening a window and fucking the world.
Like a mote in a moat.
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Sausage up the High Street
Sausage in a Cathedral
Laughed so loud I woke up the cat. He was in the bedroom, I'm in the living room. Really.
Dude has his dangly bits damn near torn from his body. Where do they take him?
Ball Memorial Hospital of course.
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Damn. I guess it is true what they say about a woman scorned! I have a question though. I seriously doubt if she could done that type of damage through clothes. That leads me to believe that he MAY have been "working at his computer" in a less than fully clothed manner. The article does not specify.
Correction: that's Ball Me Morial Hospital. That's what the sign says.
Ball'Me Mor'ial Hos'pit'al.
Okay, this
is a WTF news item, and it's
not a WTF news item.
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Sure, you can't just go door to door handing out retired wardogs.
But, just kill 'em? That seems extremely callous, especially when you take into account what these dogs did. No telling the lives that were saved by these dogs. No telling the things these dogs did for their handlers. If you use such a noble animal in such a way, the
least you can do is let the poor thing live out his life. They should keep the dogs up for the rest of their lives.
I hope whoever had the final sayso on killing these dogs, lives a long, healthy, prosperous life. And when he/she does die, hopefully in their sleep, at 100+ yrs of age, I hope they get to heaven.
To find that God is a retired wardog.
:mad:
A concerned reader has created a petition to urge the British government to reconsider the euthanization of war dogs. Should you wish to sign it, you may do so here:
Ministry of Defense and David Cameron: Stop the killing of War Dogs
If fighting pit bulls can be rehab'd (and, no, not all of them can be), I'd be willing to bet that the majority of these dogs wouldn't have to be killed.
They are trained to follow commands , after all.
I don't know anything about training dogs, but I wouldn't want a dog that was trained to attack people to be living next door.
Maybe they could put them on a farm somewhere. With a tall fence. Patrol a base or something.
"Smithers, release the hounds."
I'm with Glatt here.
But if everyone signing the petition was willing to pay The Dog's Trust to support a war dog for life, then they could work out a way to stop this happening.
Also have to take into account that some of these dogs will be suffering from post traumatic stress. Not for a moment suggesting that dogs with pts can't be rehabilitated, but if it is manifesting in ways that make the dog dangerous and unapproachable, then adds further complications to an already fraught situation. Not to mention the suffering of the animal in the meantime.
I'd be interested to know how many have been rehoused. The dogs who've been put down may represent the most damaged and difficult cases. Given the nature of their work, that's likely to be quite a high proportion I'd imagine.
With a tall fence. Patrol a base or something.
That's the sort of thing I was talking about. I wasn't suggesting they keep the
retired wardogs down at the local daycare, or kindergarten playground.
Somewhere appropriate.
Also, people's taxes paid for these dogs and their training. The allocations should include providing for them after they've "served their usefulness".
Don't most of these type dogs actually have a rank? I know most police dogs do. They're treated as soldiers, while they're "useful", and like garbage, to be thrown away, when they're used up.
This has bothered me way more than I thought it would.
Also, people's taxes paid for these dogs and their training. The allocations should include providing for them after they've "served their usefulness".
Hang on, I thought all Americans were anti-tax to the extent that they don't even want to pay to educate other people's children?
But English tax-payers should pay for pensions for dogs?
ETA that was s'posed to be a joke but came off xenophobic and a bit nasty, sorry.
But we're also the people who donate thousands to repair anonymous broken doggehs. I would like to believe that this (the wardog problem) doesn't happen here, but, I'm sure we do the same thing.
Sadly enough.
We donate ridiculous amounts to animal charities in the UK.
There's a shortage of donkeys.
They're a real money-spinner.
People are so keen to hand over cash to 'save' the cute little things that groups/charities/whatever are trying to import them and paying over the odds for any available. Some owners are getting several 'wanna sell your donkey' calls every week from these folk.
I like animals (well, most of them) but I wouldn't hand a penny over to 'save' one while there are still humans in the world going hungry.
Oh, I will. But I also give to human charitiies.
The two are very much linked to me.
IMHO, the first priority is that the VA pay for Big Sarge's goddam meds like they should, and fix Buster's eyes properly.*
I suspect that quite a few of these dogs could work as watchdogs and guard dogs, but maybe some are too old or otherwise physically or mentally not up to it. Some kind of comfortable retirement seems appropriate, but even then, all dogs come to an end and often the vet's needle is in fact the kindest way to go. We need more details about the condition of each dog. Were they actually old and sick, or were they just inconvenient?
*Yeah, I know, different country, but I'll assume the Brit system has much the same issues as the VA, and the US has dogs in much the same situation.
I'm not understanding the state of these dogs, I guess. They're trained animals. We have to assume very well-trained. Why would the military allow anything but very-well-trained dogs near our soldiers? So why is it they magically turn into monsters when they come back from overseas? I mean, sure, I can see the possibility of PTSD, and maybe you don't want to be a stranger walking onto their home property at night... but aren't police dogs trained in a similar fashion? Surely police departments across the country could find a use for a free, military-trained animal.
I donate to the Dog's Trust. For a very selfish reason. John Barrowman is a patron and often offers personal belongings, or things he has been given (a Day Out Rally Driving, a signed photo, a first edition of his book) as prizes.
But I respect what they do, same way I respect the Celia Hammond Animal Trust; they never put a healthy cat down and have a large country facility for cats that cannot be rehomed (especially ferals). They are into lifelong support. They've had money from me in the past, when I have had it.
I have also given to humans when I could. Save the Children and Help the Aged especially. Children in Need, Sport Relief, Comic Relief every year. Sometimes it's been just making a cake. Sometimes it's just been organising collections, selling raffle tickets, raising awareness. I don't think it has to be either/ or when it comes to animals and humans. I just know of animals helped by various charities and trusts. Whereas when giving to humans it's just... out there. Never met them, never will. I take it on trust.
I used to find that people who refused to give to "foreigners" i.e. starving people abroad "because there are people hungry in this country" actually didn't give to UK causes either. Each to their own - I don't volunteer any more although I have the time to (except the extra hours at school), so I'm not any kind of shining angel.
The worth of the aminals far outweighs the worth of teh huboons.
Hmmmm.
Not knowing Keith Moon is dead.
Thinking Johnny Rotten would be appropriate to play in the closing ceremony?
I suspect pranking aomewhere along the line.
Oh ye gods.
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From
http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2012/04/19/215081_local-news.html
A READER of The Cairns Post has snapped an incredible series of images in a Freshwater backyard. Check out our photo gallery.
As a frequent visitor to the beaches and wild rainforests of Cape York, kite surfer Ant Hadleigh thought he had seen it all.
But the Cairns man was in disbelief after witnessing a golden orb spider slowly attempt to eat a brown tree snake at a mate's place in Freshwater yesterday afternoon.
"I thought it was pretty incredible," Mr Hadleigh said.
"A few times the snake managed to get up and attack the spider, and the spider would run back up the web.
"I would have put my money on the snake for sure, especially seeing how big it was."
Mr Hadleigh estimated the tree snake to be around half a metre long and was alive for "an hour or more" after being caught in the spider's web, before finally succumbing to the crafty arachnid's venom.
Damn, that's one of the few snakes that
isn't particularly dangerous to humans.
More nightmares/pics at the link.
omgomgomgomgomgomg...
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH
:mad:
:bolt:
The snake I like, the spider and the fact that it is eating the snake freaks me out.
(races to airport, hops on a plane to Australia, runs to Zen's house, slaps him across the face, runs back to airport, jumps on plane home...cartoon style.)
Late to this thread but, exactly what kind of scrotum attack isn't brutal?
/pedant
(races to airport, hops on a plane to Australia, runs to Zen's house, slaps him across the face, runs back to airport, jumps on plane home...cartoon style.)
I doubt you'd get a direct flight to Adelaide.
You'd need to have a stop-over.
In
Cairns.
Late to this thread but, exactly what kind of scrotum attack isn't brutal?
/pedant
You may be late, but you'll be glad you came.
A tongue lashing.
/pervert
I doubt you'd get a direct flight to Adelaide.
[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]You'd need to have a stop-over.
In Cairns[/COLOR].
Oh, well, fuck that then.
Don't fall for that bullshit, you can fly straight into Adelaide.
Jeez, RyanAir has really gone downhill.
Tell 'em Maj. Kong said "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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What a great picture! Ballerina Bear!
It looks like they're bouncing the bear in a blanket. Weeee! Woo hooooo!
Jeez those Dropbears have got fucking big.
A) see - what I like about america is the no terribly horrifying
wildlife rule we have here. Alligstors and snakefish (an import!)
are as bad as I want things to get. NO SNAKE EATING SPIDERS THANK YOU!!!
B) Dropbear is fabulous. Poetry in motion.
Someone wanna p'shop Maj. Kong riding that bear as it falls? :D
I keep having to mentally correct myself from Mah Jong, to Maj. Kong.
Oh ye gods.
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A somewhat slightly smaller (but still really intimidating) variety of golden orb spiders is really common in Taiwan. The photo (via wikipedia) is of a really similar one on Lamma Island (near Hong Kong). They're why I never liked traipsing around the jungle up in the national park behind my apartment. I'm no major arachnophobe but...
I would not want to come around a corner or open a door and encounter that at face height. Or any height.
and of course, face height is exactly where they tend to be. I don't think i've ever seen one inside anywhere, though.
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Wildlife tennis: angling the pad so that the bear bounces in the opposing team's fileld. - It worked with the
bison, didn't it?
Someone wanna p'shop Maj. Kong riding that bear as it falls? :D
Best I could do on short notice...
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He's quite dead you know...they moved him 50 miles and then he got hit by a car.
Stupid bear."Local council elections 2012: Penguin gets more votes than Lib Dem candidate (May 4 2012 )
THE Lib Dems were left red-faced after one of their candidates received less votes than a man dressed as a penguin. ..." (The Daily Record)
"A candidate who stood under the name Professor Pongoo won more first preference votes than the Scottish Liberal Democrat candidate in one of the Edinburgh City Council wards ..." (BBC)
I for one welcome ... anything's better than the liberal parties :p:
As posted elsewhere, the Lib-Dem candidate came utterly last of eight in my ward.
If you're not fond of the Lib-Dems I hate to imagine what you'd think of the rest of Scottish politics!
I've heard, didn't realise that was your neck of the woods!
We didn't have elections here.
I feel sorry for all the decent LibDem councillors who are out.
The ones I know are fantastic and work really hard.
Saying that, I've drifted away from the party since they got into bed with the Tories.
I no longer distribute leaflets and have let my party membership lapse.
I still went to the Quiz Night the other month. And won a raffle prize. We came 4th in the Quiz, which wasn't bad for a table of 6 when others had 8. Well, I say 6 - two old ladies joined us, one of whom had led a fascinating life but the questions were just too fast for her, the other paid no attention whatever and just drank Lemon Barley Water all night. And poor old Da couldn't hear a thing over the shuffling, muttering and squeaking chairs.
It's always sad when good local councillors lose their seat because of national politics. We lost a few good councillors on ours this time around. Most of the gains were for the labour party, so I should be pleased, but I know a couple of the libs and cons who lost that are really decent. One in particular is a tory, but a really decent bloke with an incredible work ethic and genuine caring for his local community. The woman who beat him is from my party, but she's a fucking witch, who couldn't give a flying fuck for the people who've elected her.
[B]China to reinvestigate human flesh capsule claims[/B]
Tue, 08 May 2012 07:46:28 -0400
BEIJING (AP) — China will reinvestigate allegations that Chinese-made drug capsules containing powdered remains of dead babies are being smuggled into South Korea, state media reported Tuesday.
Ministry of Health spokesman Deng Haihua said an investigation launched last August found no proof that such capsules were being manufactured in China, the official Xinhua News Agency said. Some people believe the capsules can cure a variety of diseases.
Deng said in a statement that China would investigate again following new reports of such pills being smuggled into South Korea, Xinhua reported.
The statement was not posted on the ministry's website and calls to the ministry rang unanswered.
The Korea Customs Service said Monday it had seized capsules made in northeastern China from dead babies whose bodies were chopped into small pieces and dried on stoves before being turned into powder.
Deng said Chinese health departments would work with police, customs agencies and commerce authorities to investigate the latest claims, Xinhua said.
The South Korean customs agency began investigating after receiving a tip a year ago. No sicknesses have been reported from ingesting the capsules.
South Korean customs officials have refused to say where the dead babies came from or who made the capsules, citing possible diplomatic friction with Beijing.
They said they had discovered 35 smuggling attempts since August of about 17,450 capsules disguised as stamina boosters. Some people believe the capsules are a panacea for disease. However, they contain bacteria and other harmful ingredients, the customs agency said.
LINK Some people believe the capsules can cure a variety of diseases.
Some people believe the capsules are a panacea for disease. However, they contain bacteria and other harmful ingredients, the customs agency said.
What exactly do these freaks think it cures?
Great article. "THEY (you know, the ubiquitous 'they') think the pills might cure some things or a couple things and stuff, but really sometimes there's like bacteria and other stuff that is bad, and stuff."
:cool:
(No offense, 'vana...you didn't write it. I just spent too much time reading CNN comments on an unrelated matter and my blood is near boiling!) :lol:
I would recommend the book "Tokyo" by Mo Hayder on that subject. Disturbing. Very Disturbing.
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One thing is fer sure: 'Tweren't no dolphin.
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I would recommend the book "Tokyo" by Mo Hayder on that subject. Disturbing. Very Disturbing.
I'll take you up on it with used copies selling for 1p.
In return I reccomend you a real Japanese novel, as opposed to one set there.
Out by Natsuo Kirino. Fantastic book and also disturbing. You may have already read it of course, it's been around for years.
Except
I've only just found it it was called
Out.
The edition I read had a blood spattered cover (by design, not personal use) and I thought it was called
Cut!
It's not slash-horror. It's well written, well considered and a great lesson in Japanese niceties while cutting close to the bone.
If you're interested
DO NOT READ THE AMAZON PRECIS.
It gives away some real shocks. Buy it blind. You might like it, you might not, but at least it won't be spoiled for you.
I hate it when they do that.
Like blurbs on the back of books which say things like "After the death of her daughter, Marie finds it difficult to cope. Moving back to the childhood home she meets a old friend, Raina. But does Raina have her best interest in mind?"
You've got to page 50 and Marie's daughter is still alive. Ho-hum, you know she's off to the boneyard.
Raina arrives in Chapter 5. You know not to trust her.
ARRRRRRGH!
Ohmigod, that poor creature. What an agonizing death.
Ohmigod, that poor creature. What an agonizing death.
Just needed to be said again.
I wonder if that's a post mortem photo. The sea foam is awfully white for a creature with holes that big and a still beating heart.
I was thinking it was post mortem too. The foam is just the wake of the speeding boat. So the foam should be ignored. But it looks the shark is arching its head back. I think it would have to still be alive to do that. I think if it was dead, it would be straighter. But I'm not sure. It could be dead. Do sharks get rigor? That might explain the pose.
Yeah, I knew the foam came from the prop action, but I'd figure there would be more red in it if the shark was still bleeding. Even if it's just a little bit of pink towards the top or right around the wounds. But it's pure white.
In the article they do say it was alive when they started hauling it in.
I've caught and steaked sharks. They don't bleed much from where those bite marks are. Thats all meat. Looks perfectly acceptable.
Also, sharks are very strange. They can bite even after they are dead.
I remember fishing a
conger about 4-5 feet long. One hour out of the water and nailed to the gunwale with a 5 inches nail, it was still willing to bite. And if you get caught, it's a nasty one.
Absolutely Dana. We dragged on backwards for 30 mins. (Supposed to drown it)
Then shot it in the head with a shotgun. 2 hour ride back to the dock and that thing was still active as it was being steaked.
The friggin things are worse than Zombies!
Yech. I'm pretty sure I'd have lost my appetite for shark by then
Oh no, dana. Getting home after all that work and then slappin those freshly caught steaks on a sizzling hot grill ...
OMG... :drool: - :yum:
I wonder if that's a post mortem photo. The sea foam is awfully white for a creature with holes that big and a still beating heart.
I was thinking it was post mortem too. The foam is just the wake of the speeding boat. So the foam should be ignored. But it looks the shark is arching its head back. I think it would have to still be alive to do that. I think if it was dead, it would be straighter. But I'm not sure. It could be dead. Do sharks get rigor? That might explain the pose.
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Myself, I was wondering if a shark bite would be that clean. I was wondering if that might be a an injury inflicted by a beak.
Such as that found on a giant squid.
a giant squid that size... God, i cant imagine. Perish the thought.
Though, I'm fairly convinced that would be physically impossible. A shark's bite is bigger than the width of the shark in some cases. A great white basically pushes its jaws fully out of its head when it bites. A giant squid's beak is quite small compared to the size of the squid. A squid with a beak big enough to take those kinds of chunks out would have to be tens of not hundreds of times the size of anything we've ever seen.. wouldn't it?
edit: i'm totally confident there's shit down there we have no clue about. Possibly even MUCH bigger than anything we've met. But I'm not sure a squid COULD grow to that size and still support its own mass.
I don't trust anything that lives in water. Why don't they drown? Could the shark be faking?
Ali, can you refer this to Professor Dazza?
I'm pretty sure that Flipper was the culprit. Its obvious from the show he's a racist against sharks.
a giant squid that size... God, i cant imagine. Perish the thought.
Though, I'm fairly convinced that would be physically impossible. A shark's bite is bigger than the width of the shark in some cases. A great white basically pushes its jaws fully out of its head when it bites. A giant squid's beak is quite small compared to the size of the squid. A squid with a beak big enough to take those kinds of chunks out would have to be tens of not hundreds of times the size of anything we've ever seen.. wouldn't it?
edit: i'm totally confident there's shit down there we have no clue about. Possibly even MUCH bigger than anything we've met. But I'm not sure a squid COULD grow to that size and still support its own mass.
I don't know, man, I've heard giant squids can have tentacles fifty-sixty feet. And isn't there a
colossal squid, even bigger than a giant squid? I think there are pictures of whales with beak marks and tentacle marks on them.
edit: i'm totally confident there's shit down there we have no clue about.
Word.
The Colossal Squid is actually shorter than the Giant Squid, but with a larger head. They're nearly the same size. That shark was 10 ft long. Wikipedia says that scientists agree that giant squids can get up to 45 feet or so, with a 7 or 8 foot mantle. The beak is less than half the width of the mantle, which you can see in photos, narrows greatly at the mouth area - so the maximum beak size couldnt be more than a foot around. That bite on the shark is at least two, if not three, feet across, i'd say, given that they say that shark is 10 feet long.
I don't trust anything that lives in water. Why don't they drown? Could the shark be faking?
I don't trust anything that bleeds monthly and doesn't die.
Could the women be faking?
Would you trust yourself?
:)
Worry about those that don't bleed, Gun.
I have an implant.
I fly under your radar.
Which begs the question: which of us should be concerned about enemy penetration?
http://gizmodo.com/5909961/kodak-had-a-secret-weapons+grade-nuclear-reactor-hidden-in-a-basement
Kodak may be going under, but apparently they could have started their own nuclear war if they wanted, just six years ago. Down in a basement in Rochester, NY, they had a nuclear reactor loaded with 3.5 pounds of enriched uranium—the same kind they use in atomic warheads.
But why did Kodak have a hidden nuclear reactor loaded with weapons-grade uranium? And how did they get permission to own it, let alone install it in a basement in the middle of a densely populated city?
Nobody really knows.
Worry about those that don't bleed, Gun.
I have an implant.
I fly under your radar.
Which begs the question: which of us should be concerned about enemy penetration?
Touché ;)
That's French, right?
Right. It is used to recognize that another person scored a point. Comes from fencing.
This is more like WooHOOOOO news but I'll put it here.
Coffee drinking leads to longer life:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/16/health/coffee-drinking-longer-life/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Tomorrow coffee will rot your face off, but this is good news for today!
I'm waiting for the study that says beer makes you lose weight and cigarettes make you gorgeous. :jig:
I've been drinking more coffee lately, but I've been putting two sugars in it. I think the extra sugar negates the good aspects. Need to train myself to drink it unsweetened.
Sweet. And. Low(down).
I don't drink coffee at home. I often go to breakfast on Saturday and will have coffee, but I never make it at home.
Sometimes thinking of the coffee at work is the only thing that keeps me going down the interstate. Even if it is way over-priced.
Right. It is used to recognize that another person scored a point. Comes from fencing.
Thank you for the reply, I'm touched.
Why the hell would you want to climb Everest? I think it's mental illness.
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This is what it looked like over the weekend. 300 people attempted the summit. Staring at the ass of the guy in front of you for a day as you suck down the oxygen bottles and hope you don't die while your guide drags you up the final leg of the mountain doesn't sound like fun to me.
This article says that those doing it are so disoriented from the lack of oxygen, they don't even remember the experience.
People die in huge numbers, and the bodies are so difficult to recover, they just leave them there. So as you are climbing, you are passing all these corpses. Four died over the weekend, and they are having trouble identifying them and understanding what happened, because the fellow (300!) climbers were all so groggy from oxygen starvation. Crazy.
God's way of thinning the herd.
Considering there's quite a bit of paperwork involved with climbing to Everest's summit, one would think one of the required forms/items to take with you would be some kind of ID tags or patches with at least your name and country of origin that go on your outermost clothing or gear. I'm not sure exactly how you only get 'rough' identifications of people in a team set-up.
Apparently there are so many bodies all along the trail, they use them as landmarks. One of them with fluorescent green boot has been there since 1996 and is referred to as "green boots."
These bodies must be a useful source of food for the herds of yeti that live on the mountainside.
Apparently there are so many bodies all along the trail, they use them as landmarks. One of them with fluorescent green boot has been there since 1996 and is referred to as "green boots."
That's just stupid beyond stupid. At least with the running of the bulls, everyone else gets to watch you being an idiot.
I'm sure they all have cameras now. It would be cool if there was a way to do a global image search in all languages. I bet there are a lot of pictures out there on the web captioned "Me on the summit of Everest" in various languages.
Seniors choose to rike bikes to school instead of "pranking", are even sensible enough to get a poice escort, and are suspended for a prank. WTF?
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/05/kenowa_hills_seniors_suspended.html#incart_river_defaultGood lord.
I hope one of those seniors goes on to be a forestry major so he can come back to school and clearcut the forest of sticks up that principal's ass. JFC.
My vote? NOT a prank.
Omg. That is utterly ridiculous. :headshake
(Jumping off tired old planet of no fun allowed)
What are the odds the principal was either caught up in the back-up or had relations/business get caught in it?
What are the odds the principal was either caught up in the back-up or had relations/business get caught in it?
probably pretty good. and that other students were also discomfited by the riders. **STILL** not a prank.
“I am glad they made it here safely. It was a safety risk,” said Pennington, who said
the bikers caused a major traffic problem and disrupted the school day.
Cost to Make Penny and Nickel Rises, Annual Loss Reaches $116.7 Million
The cost for the United States Mint to produce and distribute the cent and nickel rose to their highest levels,
and are now more than double the respective face values. For the fiscal year ending September 30, 2011,
the unit cost for the cent was 2.41 cents and the cost for the nickel was 11.18 cents
W
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link Post from TW in 3 ... 2... 1....
Our smallest coin is the 5 cent. Life goes on.
Unit cost, not value of materials. Unit cost including manufacture and distribution. The cost of distribution will vary according to things like gas prices.
Unit Cost to Produce and Manufacture Cent
...............................................FY 2011 FY 2010
Cost of Goods Sold .................0.0197 0.0176
Sales, General & Administrative 0.0041 -
Distribution to Reserve Banks....0.0003 0.0003
Total Unit Cost .........................0.0241 0.0179
Unit Cost to Produce and Manufacture Nickel
................................................FY 2011 FY 2010
Cost of Goods Sold .................0.0938 0.0916
Sales, General & Administrative 0.0176 -
Distribution to Reserve Banks...0.0004 0.0006
Total Unit Cost .........................0.1118 0.0922
This represents the sixth year in a row that the cost to produce and distribute the cent and nickel have exceeded their face values. For the 2011 fiscal year, the two denominations were produced at a loss of $116.7 million. This amount is nearly triple than the loss of $42.6 million generated from the two denominations during the prior year.
:2cents:
I would like to exchange these for 4.82 cents.
kthxbai
Here's what I never understood. Why MUST coins be made of odd metal alloys? Why can't they just be made from, say, aluminum, or steel for durability? They are only tokens with a given face value anyway. Now with the "new" pennies, they aren't even worth their weight in silver or copper.
Pretty soon, cash will be a forgotten relic anyway, IMO. The government will go to a cashless system so they can track all monies spent and where for what they will claim is tax purposes but will really be an attack on drug profits and citizens who for whatever reason choose to fly beneath the radar.
All money should be recorded on cards, like ID type cards. There'd be no need for paper or metal money at all!
Here's what I never understood. Why MUST coins be made of odd metal alloys? .
less forgeable
Over here they started making the smallest value coins in steel fifteen or more years ago.
If Wikipedia can be trusted it was actually in 1992 and apparently as from this year at least some of the larger value coins will be steel too.
I think we should go back to using the teeth of our enemies as currency.
I like the way Clodfobble thinks.
Would I be worth less, then, what with my caps and all?
"Eh, I'd kill her for her teeth but they ain't gonna fetch me nuthin'!"
I would think you'd be worth much more b/ c of them.
Dental gold is usually very pure, and is more valued than jewellery.
The trick is in finding a better class of hobo.
Caps are porcelain.. Will there be a big demand for toilet materials?
CAPS?
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I think we should go back to using the teeth of our enemies as currency.
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Ahhh Richard Herring. I think I am a little bit in love with that man :)
400 sheep fall from overpass, strike cars after truck rollover in Australia
Joseph Netto CNN
9:57 a.m. PDT, June 1, 2012
MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA—
A truck carrying nearly 400 sheep tipped over while on an Australia overpass, sending the helpless animals tumbling down on shocked drivers below, CNN affiliate Network Ten reported.
The incident occurred Thursday night in Laverton North near Melbourne.
"We looked up and we could see the truck flip on its side and then the next minute, we were underneath and yeah, raining sheep doesn't happen everyday," said Kristy Davis, a witness.
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400 sheep fall from overpass, strike cars after truck rollover in Australia
Joseph Netto CNN
9:57 a.m. PDT, June 1, 2012
MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA—
A truck carrying nearly 400 sheep tipped over while on an Australia overpass, sending the helpless animals tumbling down on shocked drivers below, CNN affiliate Network Ten reported.
The incident occurred Thursday night in Laverton North near Melbourne.
"We looked up and we could see the truck flip on its side and then the next minute, we were underneath and yeah, raining sheep doesn't happen everyday," said Kristy Davis, a witness.
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Sidebottom, [ Really?]another witness, said the incident was a surprise.
"I saw them coming down like a mountain of, it looked like dirt but obviously wasn't, and then, there was nothing we could do they were literally on top of us," she told the affiliate.
Only one person was hospitalized, but the sheep did not fare as well. Less than 10 of them are expected to survive.
Animal welfare officials said the road was littered with dead and dying sheep.
"They were confronted with a very horrific, very distressing sight," the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals said.
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Poor little lambs! :(
The officer that issued the ticket in this story is contender numero uno for the Golden Asshole Award.
What a fucking douche.So wrong, yet so damn funny.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2154283/Cats-away-Artist-turns-dead-pet-flying-helicopter-killed-car.html
Yes, that link says what you think it says.
Eta: Ahem. what it
said, until the software shortened it, was http:// www. dailymail.co.uk/ news/ article-2154283/ Cats-away-Artist-turns-dead-pet-flying-helicopter-killed-car.h t m l
So wrong, yet so damn funny.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2154283/Cats-away-Artist-turns-dead-pet-flying-helicopter-killed-car.html
Yes, that link says what you think it says.
Eta: Ahem. what it said, until the software shortened it, was http:// www. dailymail.co.uk/ news/ article-2154283/ Cats-away-Artist-turns-dead-pet-flying-helicopter-killed-car.h t m l
That link made me has a sad.
400 sheep fall from overpass, strike cars after truck rollover in Australia
Lemming's or Demoncrats?
*ALERTS TO WORLDWIDE THREATS IN 2012*
*From JOHN CLEESE *
The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent events in Syria and
have therefore raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved." Soon,
though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A
Bit Cross." The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940
when tea supplies nearly ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from
"Tiresome" to "A Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a
"Bloody Nuisance" warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish
Armada.
The Scots have raised their threat level from "Pissed Off" to "Let's get the
Bastards." They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have
been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.
The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror
alert level from "Run" to "Hide." The only two higher levels in France are
"Collaborate" and "Surrender." The rise was precipitated by a recent fire
that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the
country's military capability.
Italy has increased the alert level from "Shout Loudly and Excitedly" to
"Elaborate Military Posturing." Two more levels remain: "Ineffective Combat
Operations" and "Change Sides."
The Germans have increased their alert state from "Disdainful Arrogance" to
"Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs." They also have two higher
levels: "Invade a Neighbour" and "Lose."
Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat
they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.
The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy.
These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy
can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.
Australia, meanwhile, has raised its security level from "No worries" to
"She'll be all right, Mate." Two more escalation levels remain: "Crikey! I
think we'll need to cancel the Barbie this weekend!" and "The Barbie is
cancelled." So far no situation has ever warranted use of the last final
escalation level.
Regards,
John Cleese,
British writer, actor and very tall person
And as a final thought - Greece is collapsing, the Iranians are getting
aggressive, and Rome is in disarray. Welcome back to 430 BC.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-06/police-commissioner-says-impersonator-helped/4055696
Senior police in Perth have revealed a man impersonating a police officer gained access to high-security facilities on nine separate occasions.
Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan says it has been a wake-up call for the force.
He says it will be alleged the 18-year-old man was wearing a stolen police uniform when he entered the Perth Watch House six times, crime headquarters at Curtin House twice, and police headquarters once during May.
The man showed up at the lock-up with a full police utility belt, complete with handcuffs, police issue baton and holster.
Mr O'Callaghan also revealed the impersonator did more than wander around inside buildings.
He says the man turned up at a traffic accident pretending to be a policeman.
"He has been involved in other incidents; as far as I know he's attended a crash, but I'm not sure about what he did there, apart from render assistance," he said.
And as a final thought - Greece is collapsing, the Iranians are getting
aggressive, and Rome is in disarray. Welcome back to 430 BC.
*snort*
I have no interest in what John Cleese has to say. He is an ultra-conservative who declines to pay taxes to a country he purports to care about. No taxation? No representation. Shut your gob.
America is welcome to him.
And Michael Caine. And Sean Connery.
Miserable old giffers.
True dat. Never understood that attitude.
The UK's slave labour program hits a new low.
"Sleep under a bridge in the cold, dark and rain, change your clothes in public and then work all day. What will you be paid for it? Oh, nothing."
I have no interest in what John Cleese has to say. He is an ultra-conservative who declines to pay taxes to a country he purports to care about. No taxation? No representation. Shut your gob.
America is welcome to him.
And Michael Caine. And Sean Connery.
Miserable old giffers.
No thanks, not interested in the smarmy ugly fucks. ESP Connery. But thanks for thinking of us. Those three kind of look alike, wouldn't you say? :D
No thanks, not interested in the smarmy ugly fucks. ESP Connery. But thanks for thinking of us. Those three kind of look alike, wouldn't you say? :D
Given my dreadful ability to recognise faces, I can't really say. But they all
sound distinctive, so I can tell them apart...
"Shadders? On me lungs? I'm been etin away! Oh Gaod in Eaven Elp Me!"
Talking smarmy, you're welcome to Piers Morgan too.
And I'll send you Jeremy Cllarkson if I manage to run him over.
Every time I see an advert for Piers I want to smack him. They take the shot with his nose sticking up in the air, looking ever so pompous.
I don't know the guy from Adam, never watched, but those ads turn me right off.
OH, here's the pic. Bleh.
Every time I see an advert for Piers I want to smack him.
Me too! I don't know the ad you are talking about, but I hate his face.
Plus, he refuses to answer how he knows about private conversations that were hacked from Paul McCartney's cell phone. The guy is a crook or is protecting crooks.
Pic ads like on cnn.com, to get us to watch the show. That's the main pic I've seen used.
It's not working, for me. ;)
The guy is a crook or is protecting crooks.
Crook.
We don't have the 5th Amendment over here, so journos either lie or shut up. It means the same anyway.
Crook.
He's pretty much universally despised over here.
Few years ago on the old format Room 101, in the final show, Ian Hislop wanted to put Piers Morgan into the room.
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I knew there was a reason I wanted to bed him.
I'm assuming you're referring to Hislop ?:P
He's one of my favourite people off've the telly. So clever, clever.
Well, not Morgan!
I liked Room 101 with Nick Hancock, personally.
I'm a stickler for the original.
I liked them both. Always had a bit of a soft spot for Merton.
Incidentally, did you catch that Mark Lawson interview with Hislop?
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Follow to dah Toob for other parts :)
You know, regarding that portrait, I think it's the camera angle that makes him seem like such a smarmy prick.
Most portraits are taken at the eye level. This one is taken at the level of his Adam's apple, so you have to look up at him and he's looking down at you. I have to assume this was his idea.
Missed that, so thanks.
Need to find a different recording though - even with both volumes on max it's too quiet for me to understand.
No. He really is that much of a smarmy twat.
I have no interest in what John Cleese has to say. He is an ultra-conservative who declines to pay taxes to a country he purports to care about. No taxation? No representation. Shut your gob.
America is welcome to him.
And Michael Caine. And Sean Connery.
Miserable old giffers.
Cleese is one of my favs, go figure. I agree with the others, send Morgan back. Snotty smarky bastid.
I'm conflicted about Clarkson, cause, I LOVE Top Gear... and hating every word he says on top gear makes the show BETTER not WORSE. His bullshit about, like, strikers being shot, or his usual offhand racism and sexism and homophobia, matches perfectly with his rhetoric about all bicyclists being shot. Jeremy Clarkson IS a character, and I enjoy the character even though I disagree with him.
I would pay a fair amount of money to see Morgan have the ever-loving shit slapped out of him.
Or fucked by a grizzly bear on bath salts...either/or.
Merc, that Cleese bit was very funny.
These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.
Ian Histlop is my hero. :D
Piers Morgan is always "misspelled" as Piers Moron in Private Eye.
I like Jeremy Clarkson and I think that people take him too seriously. He reminds our society that we need to get the fuck over ourselves sometimes and remember how to take a joke.
Yeah. It's good we have a middle-class, middle aged white man to make sure the rest of society can take jokes at their expense.
Yeah. It's good we have a middle-class, middle aged white man to make sure the rest of society can take jokes at their expense.
Victim....
Says the middle-class, middle aged white man :P
I actually don't mind Clarkson so much. He's quite entertaining, and as ibs suggested is a character. He plays up to his image of a curmudgeonly Little Englander.
But I don't really think that we need racist, anti-poor or misogynistic jokes to make us take ourselves less seriously. I'd be more impressed if he targeted some of his ire on those who aren't already the butt of everyone's jokes and occupy a stronger place in our society not a weaker one than him.
I have no real beef with Clarkson. He sends himself up too. Get what you say about criticism from a point of privilege though, Dans.
And yes, I know Cleese can be funny, but I just compare him to Michael "nicest man in the world" Palin. Same wife, same house (albeit extended), same values as when he started out. And some cracking travelogues to boot. Dinner party invite already written for when my boat comes in. His diaries reveal somewhat of a gourmand, but I bet I could serve up sardine and tomato paste sandwiches and still get a positive response.
Do we have a dinner party thread here?
I know Limey, DanaC and myself discussed a Dwellar version when in Glasgow. Don't think it made it to the board. Surprisingly for three women of a similar age and overlapping politics and humour, we had quite varying opinions on who we wanted to eat with. we kept cancelling out eachother's suggestions from what I remember.
Michael Palin is the shiznitt. I used tohave a major crush on him when i was in my teens :p
Yeah. It's good we have a middle-class, middle aged white man to make sure the rest of society can take jokes at their expense.
Yeah. It is.
People get "offended" by ridiculous things. As Stephen Fry says, it has no purpose, it's just a whine. "'I am offended by that', well so fucking what?" Haha, that man is a legend too.
There's a difference between simply making a joke and actually being derogatory or inciting hatred.
I'm not saying Clarkson never crosses a line, sometimes he does, but for the most part he really doesn't. I think we need people like him so that we can have a discussion about where the line is between what it's okay to say and what isn't.
Yes, people get offended by ridiculous things. But they also get offended by stuff that isn't ridiculous. Tell you the stuff that does offend me, is the anti-poor rhetoric. But that isn't specific to Clarkson, it's a pervasive thing at the moment. I am generally offended by the idea that people in a position of social power feel comfortable in making other people with much less social power the butts of their jokes. It's not really specifically racist, or bigotted humour that worries me, it's the general tone of the stronger in society mocking the weaker and then expecting the weaker to suck it up and have a sense of humour about these things. It's comedy from an unkind place. I don't like it. It makes me feel uncomfortable, because it feels wrong. At a gut level. Not offensive, but just wrong.
I personally am rarely offended by Clarkson. And I think the outcry that regularly goes up when he, as you say, crosses a line is fucking ridiculous. Why? because he's Jeremy fucking Clarkson, that's why. We all know what and who he is. The people who employ him know what and who he is, that's why they employ him. And in fairness to him, the lines he crosses are a damn sight less objectionable than some of what was considered mainstream acceptable a few years ago.
What makes me scoff is those who are offended by other people being offended.
Political correctness gone mad!!!!! And yes, those exclamation points are justified. Because that's how they think.
Stop being offended being other people's sensibilities, then.
And as an added extra, go watch a few episodes of On the Buses or Love Thy Neighbour. And imagine your daughter or friend being treated like that because of their gender/ race.
During our Queen's reign, America has progressed from a legal citizen with black skin not being allowed to choose where she sat on a bus, to a mixed race man in the Whitehouse. The world doesn't change because people accept bigotry. It changes because people notice it, decide it's wrong, and point it out to other people.
Says the middle-class, middle aged white man :P
Middle class? Bwahahahahahahahahahaha :lol2:
Ahh, I'm forgetting. Middle class means something different over there. Here it means fairly affluent.
EDIT: whoops misread what was being quoted, sorry, thought we were still talking clarkson.
Middle aged? Bwahahahahahahahahahaha :lol:
He's WAY OLDER! ;)
Your forgot Middle of the Road. He's really that!
you wish he was in the middle of the road.
You're on a roll today, C-man! :lol:
Ahh, I'm forgetting. Middle class means something different over there. Here it means fairly affluent.
Don't worry.... it means the same thing here. If you make less than whatever you think "Middle Class" makes, because so far no one can define "Wealth" or "Rich".
Middle class also means a cultural designation as well.
I am economically working class, but culturally I straddle working and middle class.
People may not be able to categorically define 'wealth' or 'rich'. But there are some fairly simple measures to define 'deprivation' and 'poor'.
Semantics.
I am poor. But I describe myself as "living in genteel poverty"
and suddenly I'm Jane Austen.
Don't worry.... it means the same thing here. If you make less than whatever you think "Middle Class" makes, because so far no one can define "Wealth" or "Rich".
You have a wealth of ignorance.
You are poor in spirit.
You have an abundance of meanness (I never thought I could write a paradox that wasn't a paradox, until now).
Your money is just a number in a computer, and it can't buy you love.
You have a wealth of ignorance.
You are poor in spirit.
You have an abundance of meanness (I never thought I could write a paradox that wasn't a paradox, until now).
Your money is just a number in a computer, and it can't buy you love.
Bla, bla, bla, and you are an idiot......
You don't get to judge me.
You know little about me and my life.
You are a judgmental narcissist who knows nothing about me but does have a superiority complex.
You have failed again, just as you did in your marriage. I beat you on that one alone.... Your failure in that "love" relationship proves you are a complete failure in the "love" department....
Bla, bla, bla, and you are an idiot......
You don't get to judge me.
You know little about me and my life.
You are a judgmental narcissist who knows nothing about me but does have a superiority complex.
You have failed again, just as you did in your marriage. I beat you on that one alone.... Your failure in that "love" relationship proves you are a complete failure in the "love" department....
The fuck I don't. I *do* judge you. You've read a taste of that judgement, and your opinion of it is a matter of monumental indifference to me.
As for you life, who gives a shit? What you do and show here is what I base my judgement on; that judgement stands. You want a different assessment? Show different behavior. Around here, you're reaping what you've sown.
Since you bring it up, let me add hypocrite to your long list. I say this because you've shown once more--"you don't get to judge me" and a heartbeat later "you are judgmental...". Hypocrite.
You "beat" me in marriage?! Ok, congratulations "winner". I'll say this for you, you can be pretty fucking funny sometimes. ... words fail me here. But I must say thank you, hater, for your pearls of wisdom regarding my love life. Seriously. Thanks. I haven't smiled that much in a long time.
...
As for my judgements, they'll stand until you demonstrate otherwise. Go on, prove me wrong, I double-dog dare ya.
Has someone spiked Merc's water supply or something?
Bla, bla, bla, and you are an idiot......
You don't get to judge me.
You know little about me and my life.
You are a judgmental narcissist who knows nothing about me but does have a superiority complex.
You have failed again, just as you did in your marriage. I beat you on that one alone.... Your failure in that "love" relationship proves you are a complete failure in the "love" department....
Put your big girl panties on. Throw yourself out there and deal with it. I owe you nothing.... I am not trying to "bait" you, I am not trying to "harass you"... if you respond to anything I post I have the chance to do the same. It is not something special for you or at you. You are an adult. Throw your shit out there and think no one can say anything they want about what you post is silly. Get over yourself. I really don't care.
Take your own advice, Merc.
The mind boggles.
Why does anyone bother anymore?
Hate and fear rule merc's life. That is a problem no one can help
him with. He can only be pitied.
Has someone spiked Merc's water supply or something?
Limbaugh and other wacko extremist talk show hosts have been particularly vitriolic this past week. Best way to get party loyalists to vote is to promote hate. He simply reflects what he is being told by people who also proudly massacred almost 5000 American soldiers in Iraq.
Hate will increase and become extreme. The Supreme Court has encouraged the rich to buy elections. The Koch Bros alone have announced plans to spend $200 million on hate promoting SuperPacs.
Watch how those most easily manipulated will reflect that increasing hate up to November. Advertising easily manipulates many who deny they are easily manipulated.
Its not the water. Its in the air.
Limbaugh and other wacko extremist --snip-- (sigh)
Watch how those most easily manipulated will reflect that increasing hate up to November. Advertising easily manipulates many who deny they are easily manipulated.
Its not the water. Its in the air.
Bullseye. Right on target, tw. You are completely correct on this. Sad, but true.
A horrifying item of actual What the fucking fuck news:
China vows punishment over forced abortion at seven months
Officials forced the woman, Feng Jianmei, who is in her 20s, to have an abortion at a hospital in the northwestern province of Shaanxi in June, state media reported.
The woman's treatment drew the attention of national media and the fury of China's micro bloggers after her husband posted pictures online of her with her aborted baby girl on a hospital bed.
Another article with censored pictures and more appalling details. In Michigan you can't even say vagina. :rolleyes:
During a heated debate on the floor of the Michigan state House, Rep. Lisa Brown made an impassioned speech against a bill that seeks to put new regulations on abortion providers and ban all abortions after 20 weeks.
Brown, a Democrat, argued that her Jewish faith allowed for therapeutic abortions when the mother's life is in danger without regard to length of pregnancy.
"I have not asked you to adopt and adhere to my religious beliefs. Why are you asking me to adopt yours?" she said. But what came next is what got her in trouble: "And finally, Mr. Speaker, I'm flattered that you're all so interested in my vagina, but 'no' means 'no.'"
The Detroit News reports today the House Republican leadership did not allow Brown to speak on a bill about the retirement of school employees.
The News reports:
"'What she said was offensive," said Rep. Mike Callton, R-Nashville. 'It was so offensive, I don't even want to say it in front of women. I would not say that in mixed company.'
"Majority Floor Leader Jim Stamas, R-Midland, determined Brown's comments violated the decorum of the House, said Ari Adler, spokesman for the Republican majority."
She should have said gash.
She should have called them a bunch of twats and then kicked
them in the cunt.
Those men are being a bunch of pompous old dickheads, but technically, they're more interested in her uterus, not her orgasm chasm.
After all it's uterUS not uterYOU.
After all it's uterUS not uterYOU.
:lol2:
Utter ridiculous that some extremists remain so childish as to still be embarrassed by discussions of body parts. But then many extremists never learn basic science such as high school biology. Utter amazing.
Ladies and gentlemen, no more entries please, we have a winner.
Squid Injects Woman's Tongue With Sperm Bag As She Eats In Korea
The squid was partially cooked -- of course it was hot and bothered.
A woman in Seoul, Korea was eating semi-boiled squid when the cephalopod injected its sperm bag into her tongue, according to research published in February.
The unidentified woman reportedly experienced a "pricking and foreign-body sensation" while she chewed and spat the squid out. She had to go to the hospital when she felt severe pain and several "small, squirming" creepy crawlies in her mouth.
Doctors found that the squid had left "twelve small, white spindle-shaped, bug-like organisms" in the mucous membranes of her tongue and cheek.
Indeed, the woman's mouth had been essentially inseminated.
Researchers think that the squid's sperm bags came out while the woman chewed her food. Squids have "sperm bags," which are ejaculatory apparatuses that attach themselves to a female's body before slowly secreting sperm, according to Fairfax New Zealand News.
Ladies and gentlemen, no more entries please, we have a winner.
Squid Injects Woman's Tongue With Sperm Bag As She Eats In Korea
The squid was partially cooked -- of course it was hot and bothered.
A woman in Seoul, Korea was eating semi-boiled squid when the cephalopod injected its sperm bag into her tongue, according to research published in February.
The unidentified woman reportedly experienced a "pricking and foreign-body sensation" while she chewed and spat the squid out. She had to go to the hospital when she felt severe pain and several "small, squirming" creepy crawlies in her mouth.
Doctors found that the squid had left "twelve small, white spindle-shaped, bug-like organisms" in the mucous membranes of her tongue and cheek.
Indeed, the woman's mouth had been essentially inseminated.
Researchers think that the squid's sperm bags came out while the woman chewed her food. Squids have "sperm bags," which are ejaculatory apparatuses that attach themselves to a female's body before slowly secreting sperm, according to Fairfax New Zealand News.
How embarrassing. Now everybody knows ... she doesn't swallow.
When questioned, the squid said "I never had sex with that woman ..."
She should have said gash.
Perhaps 'axewound' would have been more well-received.
That squid thing ... (a) eeiiiwwww
(b) I think that IS possible, some squid do reproduce like that!
(c) this is why anything which might possibly be capable of fighting back in even the slightest way should always be thoroughly killed before being brought to the table.
...(c) this is why anything which might possibly be capable of fighting back in even the slightest way should always be thoroughly killed, and given a handjob before being brought to the table.
FIFY.