Misguided Souls

Big Sarge • Jan 27, 2011 8:13 am
I've been up most of the night pondering the large number of misguided souls who congregate here in the Cellar. Are they misguided or truly lost. A few I am certain are destined to be burned and quite deservedly!! But, am I here to minister to them? Is that my destiny?

Why do they gather here? Is it because the Cellar equates as darkness? Is the Cellar a form of coven in the land of cyber? Why are there so many of them?? Should we drive them from the figurative darkness into the light of the world?

Yes, I'm quite troubled by these "heretics". I care about them, but at the same time is it even worth the time and effort to save them? Oh, in case you haven't figured it out, these lost souls I am referring to are "liberal democrats".
TheMercenary • Jan 27, 2011 9:52 am
:) Pass out flashlights.
DanaC • Jan 27, 2011 10:29 am
The Cellar: halfway out of the dark.
Lamplighter • Jan 27, 2011 11:00 am
Big Sarge;708438 wrote:
<snip> "liberal democrats".


There you go being redundant again.
monster • Jan 27, 2011 11:01 am
What has a dark side, a light side and hold the universe together?



[COLOR="PaleTurquoise"]duct tape[/COLOR]
wolf • Jan 27, 2011 2:37 pm
Sarge, I've got your back.

and a handy instruction manual.
skysidhe • Jan 27, 2011 3:06 pm
We need a list. I am not paying enough attention to know who they are and so a list is in order. Then, if any come up missing, and land in the poky, I'll know where to look.

It might be hard to wrestle big sarge for them tho.
Lamplighter • Jan 27, 2011 3:27 pm
Can I be first on the list ?
I wanna be first...I wanna be first...I wanna be first

Of course, I'm so liberal I'll be sure others get on the list too,
if they have protected class status.
Rhianne • Jan 27, 2011 5:19 pm
Liberal Democrats are too right wing for me.
Big Sarge • Jan 27, 2011 5:23 pm
Yes, we need to start a prayer list for these poor souls
sexobon • Jan 27, 2011 5:30 pm
footfootfoot
Lamplighter • Jan 27, 2011 6:23 pm
Then I want Merc and UG on the list with me. :cool:
plthijinx • Jan 27, 2011 10:33 pm
Lamplighter;708593 wrote:
Then I want Merc and UG on the list with me. :cool:


talk about a flank!
plthijinx • Jan 27, 2011 10:41 pm
Big Sarge;708438 wrote:
..... Should we drive them from the figurative darkness into the light of the world?...Yes, I'm quite troubled by these "heretics". I care about them, but at the same time is it even worth the time and effort to save them? Oh, in case you haven't figured it out, these lost souls I am referring to are "liberal democrats".


i care about humankind (even though i've been banished to the cellar shitter) but sometimes you just can't fix it. people are people. making mistakes, even though they think they are right, will still make mistakes.
we in the south know. someday they will too. ;)
Gravdigr • Jan 31, 2011 4:26 pm
My mistakes are righter than your mistakes.

My mistakes can beat up your mistakes.

It is rare that my opinion of someone doesn't go down after I hear them express political opinions, of any flavor.
jbot • Feb 2, 2011 7:34 pm
i'm pretty lost. i've been retracing my steps for some time now. can i join your list?
tw • Feb 2, 2011 7:47 pm
Big Sarge;708438 wrote:
I've been up most of the night pondering the large number of misguided souls who congregate here in the Cellar. Are they misguided or truly lost. A few I am certain are destined to be burned and quite deservedly!! But, am I here to minister to them? Is that my destiny?

As hard as I tried, I could not get on Nixon's enemies list. Nor on George Jr's. How do I get on your list?

Even appliances get listed by the UL. Damn. I'm not even listed in the phone book. Talk about an inferiority complex.

I even tried posting under the name Emma - and could not get my posts listed in the Cellar.
TheMercenary • Feb 3, 2011 11:27 am
Gravdigr;709055 wrote:
My mistakes are righter than your mistakes.

My mistakes can beat up your mistakes.

It is rare that my opinion of someone doesn't go down after I hear them express political opinions, of any flavor.

Ahhh, don't taze me bro.
plthijinx • Feb 5, 2011 2:16 am
tw;709379 wrote:
Damn. I'm not even listed in the phone book. Talk about an inferiority complex.


that's ok bro....you're on my list. we may not always agree...but i still love ya! (not in a sheldon kinda way a brotherly love kinda way....) :D
Big Sarge • Feb 6, 2011 11:40 am
I'm making a list and checking it twice...gonna find out who is naughty or nice! I have come to the conclusion that these misguided souls are true mentally ill. No one in their just mind would support those evil democrats. That leaves only one thing..... I feel a healing coming on!!!
Spexxvet • Feb 7, 2011 11:43 am
Have you ever considered that YOU are the ones who are misguided and mentally ill?
Big Sarge • Feb 7, 2011 11:53 am
of course not!!! we are on the side of freedom, justice, and the american way! we people are god's chosen.
Spexxvet • Feb 7, 2011 12:04 pm
Big Sarge;710311 wrote:
of course not!!! we are on the side of freedom, justice, and the american way! we people are god's chosen.


Oh, the Jews....
Sundae • Feb 7, 2011 2:33 pm
It's no good you trying to cloud the issue by pretending to be all-American Sarge.
The Daily Mail has an article exposing people like you!

And much as I'd like to see you exposed (in the NSFW thread, natch) I think it's about time you came clean about your scamming ways.

Rom scam: How African fraudsters now make £80million a year ripping off women (and a few men) so desperate for love they'll believe anything
Excerpt:
Few love more fervently than the middle-aged and lonely. Which is why last week’s revelation that divorcee Kate Roberts lavished £80,000 on a handsome American soldier – only to find out he was a fictitious creation of a heartless gang of Nigerian conmen – came as yet another salutary warning that not everything is what it seems on the Worldwide Web.

The scammers’ modus operand is simple. The fraudsters register with dating websites using false identities and photos of good-looking people culled from the web. They typically pay subscription fees with stolen or cloned credit card details – and act quickly to inveigle their way into long-distance ‘love affairs’ over the net.
Sometimes they will send gifts or flowers. They’ll flatter and flirt. They know, after all, that most members of the dating site wouldn’t be there unless they were lonely and vulnerable.

snip

Last year Rebecca (not her real name) joined a dating agency and was contacted by an East African, masquerading as a US Army sergeant in Afghanistan. He bombarded her with emails, poems, flowers, balloons and teddy bears.
When he asked her for £450 to buy phone cards so that he could call her, Rebecca refused.

Then he said he would like to visit her but would need financial help to get a ‘transit grant’ from the Army.

‘He emailed me lots of very official-looking paperwork and I even had a call from someone who said he was his lieutenant confirming that he would not be allowed to leave his post without some financial guarantee that he would return,’ she told the BBC.
Big Sarge • Feb 7, 2011 3:51 pm
Uhhh. That's pretty damn low. Id love to get my hands on scammers. I can guarantee you they weren't members of the NRA or Young Republicans!!!

SG- I posted a pic in the NSFW a couple of ears ago. It was a fairly close up after I had shaved. I think I used anonymous, but everyone knew it was me
plthijinx • Feb 7, 2011 4:53 pm
how long is an "ear" anyway? is it similar to a year? :D
Sundae • Feb 7, 2011 4:55 pm
Big Sarge;710356 wrote:
SG- I posted a pic in the NSFW a couple of ears ago. It was a fairly close up after I had shaved. I think I used anonymous, but everyone knew it was me

Not everyone Sarge!
I've checked 2010 and 2009, will go back to 2008 :)

Plt - I hope it's longer than his ear or it won't be worth the search...!
Big Sarge • Feb 7, 2011 5:39 pm
SG - I was shaved. If that helps
SamIam • Feb 7, 2011 8:44 pm
I pray nightly to GW Jr. that I will be filled with the spirit of Ronnie Reagan (not to mention Bonzo) that I might shed my evil commie liberal ways and be saved. Unfortunately, my last glimmer of hope was extinguished when the GOP regained control in Congress and promptly ended funding for all social programs, including Merc's hour of prayer for those of us who are liberally challenged.

I turn to the Cellar as my last hope, checking daily for posts by UG. :p:
HungLikeJesus • Feb 7, 2011 9:07 pm
We are people's chosen gods!
TheMercenary • Feb 8, 2011 10:30 am
SamIam;710394 wrote:
I pray nightly to GW Jr. that I will be filled with the spirit of Ronnie Reagan (not to mention Bonzo) that I might shed my evil commie liberal ways and be saved. Unfortunately, my last glimmer of hope was extinguished when the GOP regained control in Congress and promptly ended funding for all social programs, including Merc's hour of prayer for those of us who are liberally challenged.

I turn to the Cellar as my last hope, checking daily for posts by UG. :p:

You must pray to the alter!
Sundae • Feb 8, 2011 11:05 am
Big Sarge;710356 wrote:
SG- I posted a pic in the NSFW a couple of ears ago. It was a fairly close up after I had shaved. I think I used anonymous, but everyone knew it was me

It wasn't in the Dwellar NSFW thread. No wonder I never saw it. You provided the only real photo in the thread, but by that time people had stopped checking it!

I was pleased I had a look though :)
Big Sarge • Feb 8, 2011 10:44 pm
dies of embarassment......
Fair&amp;Balanced • Feb 9, 2011 9:03 am
Big Sarge;708438 wrote:
I've been up most of the night pondering the large number of misguided souls who congregate here in the Cellar. Are they misguided or truly lost. A few I am certain are destined to be burned and quite deservedly!! But, am I here to minister to them? Is that my destiny?

Why do they gather here? Is it because the Cellar equates as darkness? Is the Cellar a form of coven in the land of cyber? Why are there so many of them?? Should we drive them from the figurative darkness into the light of the world?

Yes, I'm quite troubled by these "heretics". I care about them, but at the same time is it even worth the time and effort to save them? Oh, in case you haven't figured it out, these lost souls I am referring to are "liberal democrats".


Maybe you can tweek the "cure" used by some religious leaders to turn gays back to being straight. After all, they care about gays, but are equally troubled by these other "heretics" :D
Uday • Feb 14, 2011 7:07 pm
Lamplighter;708485 wrote:
There you go being redundant again.


Can someone please explain to me the difference between American right and left?

Looks the same for me.
Uday • Feb 14, 2011 7:15 pm
Maybe this is wrong place for question.
monster • Feb 14, 2011 9:26 pm
Tell us about yourself, Uday :)
Uday • Feb 14, 2011 9:52 pm
monster;711420 wrote:
Tell us about yourself, Uday :)


I am from Dahab, which is a small town in Egypt on the Sinai peninsula. I am studying epidemiology at University of Arizona. When I am done I will return to Egypt where I hope to teach at Cairo University.

I like America, but it is confusing. It is not what I expected.
monster • Feb 14, 2011 10:07 pm
Uday;711424 wrote:

I like America, but it is confusing. It is not what I expected.


Hahaha I feel the same -I am from England but I live in Michigan. I see little difference between the right and left here when I look with British eyes, but there are many differences with American eyes, it just takes time to adjust your focus.

What do you feel about what is happening in Egypt right now? It's a country I've always wanted to visit -admittedly for the touristy stuff- but I didn't get there yet.... Morocco is the closest I've been.
Uday • Feb 14, 2011 10:19 pm
monster;711425 wrote:
Hahaha I feel the same -I am from England but I live in Michigan. I see little difference between the right and left here when I look with British eyes, but there are many differences with American eyes, it just takes time to adjust your focus.

What do you feel about what is happening in Egypt right now? It's a country I've always wanted to visit -admittedly for the touristy stuff- but I didn't get there yet.... Morocco is the closest I've been.


I feel worried. Everything is falling to pieces, and I am 12,000 kilometers away. I am especially worrying that Omar Suleiman will be president. He is crazy. He is a sadist (Is this the right word? He like to hurt people. Some words I still need the translation software.) Mubarek was like Khrushchev. Suleiman is like Beria. Much, much worse.
monster • Feb 14, 2011 10:54 pm
Yes, Sadist is the right word for your description. Are you in close contact with your family and friends, or is that difficult?
plthijinx • Feb 14, 2011 11:52 pm
so if the Egyptians wanted Mubarek to step down and you say that Suleiman is crazy....i'm a bit confused here, so you're saying Suleiman will be worse? then why ask mubarek to step down? seems like the lesser of two evils....going by what you said that is.....
piercehawkeye45 • Feb 15, 2011 8:36 am
I was under the impression they wanted to get of both. The entire regime actually.
Spexxvet • Feb 15, 2011 8:44 am
Uday;711394 wrote:
Can someone please explain to me the difference between American right and left?

Looks the same for me.


In America, when any random issue arises, either left or right will take a position. The other side will take the opposite position.

In other words, their positions on various issues are not always consistent. That's why they might appear to be the same.
Sundae • Feb 15, 2011 9:38 am
plthijinx;711436 wrote:
so if the Egyptians wanted Mubarek to step down and you say that Suleiman is crazy....i'm a bit confused here, so you're saying Suleiman will be worse? then why ask mubarek to step down? seems like the lesser of two evils....going by what you said that is.....

Because it's easier to bring down a hated figurehead than an entire regime.
piercehawkeye45;711464 wrote:
I was under the impression they wanted to get of both. The entire regime actually.

Ding ding ding.
The army gets to decide.
Athenian • Feb 15, 2011 10:02 am
plthijinx;711436 wrote:
so if the Egyptians wanted Mubarek to step down and you say that Suleiman is crazy....i'm a bit confused here, so you're saying Suleiman will be worse? then why ask mubarek to step down? seems like the lesser of two evils....going by what you said that is.....


Well played sir.
Big Sarge • Feb 16, 2011 3:06 pm
Uday - the difference between the right and left is easy to discern. Close your eyes and think of everything good in the world. That's the right. Now picture something so hideous that it frightens young Republicans in their sleep. Thats the evil left wing
Spexxvet • Feb 16, 2011 3:26 pm
I think Big Sarge is UG and Merc's child.
Big Sarge • Feb 16, 2011 5:14 pm
I'm just the keeper of the light. LOL
Pete Zicato • Feb 16, 2011 5:32 pm
Big Sarge;711735 wrote:
Uday - the difference between the right and left is easy to discern. Close your eyes and think of everything good in the world. That's the right. Now picture something so hideous that it frightens young Republicans in their sleep. Thats the evil left wing

Um. Wow. *shakes head*
Pico and ME • Feb 16, 2011 6:18 pm
Whats the term for something when its is so far fetched that it could almost be satire but isn't? I'm having a hard time taking Big Sarge seriously here.
Nirvana • Feb 16, 2011 6:36 pm
Pico and ME;711798 wrote:
Whats the term for something when its is so far fetched that it could almost be satire but isn't? I'm having a hard time taking Big Sarge seriously here.


Hyperbole? :D
ZenGum • Feb 16, 2011 6:59 pm
I think it is Poe's law.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law

Poe's Law: Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake it for the genuine article.

Poe's Corollary: It is impossible for an act of Fundamentalism to be made that someone won't mistake for a parody.

Poe's paradox: In any fundamentalist group where Poe's Law applies, a paradox exists where any new person (or idea) sufficiently fundamentalist to be accepted by the group is likely to be so ridiculous that they risk being rejected as a parodist (or parody).
Big Sarge • Feb 16, 2011 7:21 pm
Another way to look at it is the left is possessed by demonic (or should we say democratic) forces.
Uday • Feb 16, 2011 8:42 pm
Big Sarge;711735 wrote:
Uday - the difference between the right and left is easy to discern. Close your eyes and think of everything good in the world. That's the right. Now picture something so hideous that it frightens young Republicans in their sleep. Thats the evil left wing


In my country, people talk like this. Mostly the more extreme Muslims, when they talk about any one else.
Uday • Feb 16, 2011 8:44 pm
plthijinx;711436 wrote:
so if the Egyptians wanted Mubarek to step down and you say that Suleiman is crazy....i'm a bit confused here, so you're saying Suleiman will be worse? then why ask mubarek to step down? seems like the lesser of two evils....going by what you said that is.....


I think most people were not expecting Suleiman to be president after Mubarek. There was no vice president before uprising. Is maybe more like when Augustus chose Tiberius to be the next emperor, so nobody would assassinate him. Mubarek appoints Suleiman to be vice president, so people will keep Mubarek.

It didn't work, and now maybe my country will have to do all this again.
tw • Feb 16, 2011 9:22 pm
Uday;711817 wrote:
Is maybe more like when Augustus chose Tiberius to be the next emperor, so nobody would assassinate him.
Appreciate a problem that every leader has. He lives in an ethersphere. Everyone he meets wants something. Suddenly a leader no longer meets simple honest people on a street. Everyone has an agenda. History suggests that ten years of leadership results in corruption. Happens when one lives high in that ethersphere for too long.

Probably the only exception to that rule was King Hussein of Jordan. Who tried to start democracy in Jordan after over ten years of leadership. That example is rare. And that is why so many nations put term limits on their leaders. In the US, the president can only serve eight years. In Italy, view what Silvio Berlusconi has done without regret. Worry about too much Putin in Russia.

How can any leader see a 90% approval vote and think that was an honest plebicite? Clearly Mubarak had to know the elections were rigged. Either he was so subverted by the ethersphere. Or he truly believed he was the god for Egypt. Either way, Suleiman demonstrates a kind of people that end up around a leader who has been there too long. Ronald Reagan had his Oliver North and that corruption.

François Mitterrand did so much good for France in his early days. Living too long and isolated in the ethersphere is why Mitterand eventually became one of France's more corrupt Presidents. To summarize: Power corrupts.
Sundae • Feb 17, 2011 2:18 pm
Pico and ME;711798 wrote:
Whats the term for something when its is so far fetched that it could almost be satire but isn't? I'm having a hard time taking Big Sarge seriously here.

Sarge might be right wing, but remember he spent plenty of time in the desert. His sense of humour is correspondingly dry.
Big Sarge • Feb 17, 2011 3:32 pm
Alright ya'll, I confess. I've just been joking in this thread.
Sundae • Feb 17, 2011 4:26 pm
A dry sense of humour is much sought after in these parts. And by these parts I'm talking geographically. My parts welcome something a bit more moist...
Big Sarge • Feb 17, 2011 4:37 pm
;)