Job Interview
rather than hi-jack the what's making you happy thread, thought i'd just start this one. well i went for my interview. met up with my future employer and long time business acquaintance of some almost 20 years and right as we were about the leave the shop the interviewing engineer for the client called and reset the interview for friday morning. he had a proposal he needed to finish and wouldn't have the time to do the interview today. while at Za's (pronounced Z A not zah) i also found out that i would again be working with someone i worked with for the 15+ years i was at my old engineering company. cool. we got along great and used to be hunting buddies. he'd been to the old farm i had numerous times. anyway, today was not a complete wash you see. Za had to go to the client to pick up some finished equipment to ship to the field so i went with him. got to see the company from the inside meet a few people and the best part, get a feel for the atmosphere. it was kinda funny really. i was standing at someone's cubicle while Za was talking to him and i looked down at the drawings and had immediate flashbacks lol! cube life!!!! AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGG! nah, actually i can't wait to get back in. also found out that one of the hiring engineers is a long time friend of Za's so that's a plus. oh yeah, while at the shop Za showed me exactly why he wants Larry and i working for this client. get this: the lead designers are not using standard electrical symbols which throws off the guys in the shop. for example: use this
legend notice on the upper right center of the legend you see a toggle switch called spst or single pole single throw. that is what you would use to represent a light switch. they are using what's called a n.o. contact or normally open contact. in the case of the reference legend it's shown top dead center of the sheet labeled here as non-polarized. not only is this incorrect it shows what kind of job they are doing. looks like larry and my objective will be not only design compressor stations but QA/QC on drawings going out for construction. so, i go back friday and meet with the engineers and see if i can't get
back in the saddle again! i'm tired as all get out. i need a nap but i gotta cook supper. making my bad ass chile again! mmmmm!
i need a nap but i gotta cook supper. making my bad ass chile again! mmmmm!
So. When you call this chile bad-ass -- are you describing the results?
So. When you call this chile bad-ass -- are you describing the results?
BWAHAHAHAHA! indeed! :D
@bruce: we'll see mate. we'll see. i can hear the chicks pecking at the shell but i'm not gonna count them until they hatch.
Whether you get the job or not, it's gonna be a great year for you, I'm tellin' ya.
:thankyou: for your support sir! :D very much appreciated!
It's good to see you so positive and happy! :)
ty sweetheart! it's good to be positive and happy. no one likes to be down. well maybe there are exceptions to that rule. i can think of one person in my past. i'll tell ya this though, your quick wit in some of these threads makes me laugh a mile! thank you! i love to laugh. i love to joke. y'all know this. i tend to joke more than i'm serious on here but that's just my nature. if it's one thing i have learned over the last 5 years is this: never, and i mean NEVER, say it can't get any worse. because it can. but remember this: all cloudy days eventually give way to clear skies!
ty sir. have to quote your tag line:
"Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. "
Brother Dave Gardner
See why i havent changed it in Years
Here's to clear skies all the way Plthijinx *raises a glass*
oh yeah, while at the shop Za showed me exactly why he wants Larry and i working for this client. get this: the lead designers are not using standard electrical symbols which throws off the guys in the shop. for example: use this legend notice on the upper right center of the legend you see a toggle switch called spst or single pole single throw. that is what you would use to represent a light switch. they are using what's called a n.o. contact or normally open contact. in the case of the reference legend it's shown top dead center of the sheet labeled here as non-polarized. not only is this incorrect it shows what kind of job they are doing.
More confusing is text that does not use capital letters at the start of every sentence. What was posted could take two different interpretations. Without knowing, with certainty, what you are saying, well, that legend is standard electrical symbols for generations (except for the fuse symbol). Either you were saying engineers were using those symbols or saying they were not. It's not clear.
NO and NC contacts do not exist for a SPST switch. NO and NC contacts only exist on momentary switches. Either I am contracting what you posted, or am clarifying confusion for others.
Also every terminal connection typically has a number or letter to uniquely identify each connection.
That is what ECNs or ECOs are for. After a prototype, the shop provides an engineer with corrections to eliminate any confusion or to add any missing terminal identification.
QC is a program for failure. QA means an engineer has attitude and knowledge as taught by W E Deming. Else this confusion only continues. QC is a bureaucracy created by management to fix quality because management is the actual problem.
Bad management creates a wall that designs are thrown over when management, instead, makes decisions from spreadsheets. When management does not come from where the work gets done. Then QA does not exist. Then QC is created by management to mask a real problem.
You may want to consider that job with greater caution. It sounds, in some ways, like you would be hired to be the enemy of a problem that you cannot solve.
NO and NC contacts do not exist for a SPST switch. NO and NC contacts only exist on momentary switches. Either I am contracting what you posted, or am clarifying confusion for others.
you are clarifying for others. sometimes i get ahead of myself and forget to explain or assume that they know what i'm talking about. it's a fault i have. ty. the contact symbol that they used to designate a switch is in fact the symbol used to designate a relay contact. those can be either N.O. or N.C. for clarification there are relay contacts, PLC contacts (programmable logic controllers) as well as many other contacts, each one drawn a unique way to identify said contact. then it is given an "address."
You may want to consider that job with greater caution. It sounds, in some ways, like you would be hired to be the enemy of a problem that you cannot solve.
you make a very good point. however, i can fix this. i have almost 20 years experience. i'm confident. enemy? maybe. end result? it will work. like i said, i have looked over the schematics and wiring diagrams. all they need are clarification. point well taken tw.
Also every terminal connection typically has a number or letter to uniquely identify each connection.
i agree and that is one of the problems that is occurring with the present designers. they are not specifying addresses or contact numbers. they're lazy and want the field contractor to either figure out what they don't know or they just don't care. time to go guys. let the "A" team in. i know what i'm doin'.
More confusing is text that does not use capital letters at the start of every sentence.
not to be rude, get over it. not gonna happen. not with this pos (piece of shit) keyboard.
Worked on a million dollar machine once because one RF function did not work. Determined how to rewire the entire subsystem so that everything worked. Then sent marked up prints to the engineer in charge of that machine.
Some months later, a duplicate machine arrived with the same problems. They called me in. Did a long diagnosis. Then suddenly realized it was the exact same screw ups. The engineer had never bothered to update any prints.
Somehow my boss and his boss went up the line to the president. Normally I never see that. That engineer was fired. So many people came running up to me with what was generally regarded as good new - to everyone but me. He was making the mistakes. But he was not where the problem should be solved. I felt real bad about it. He was making those mistakes because that was the attitude in that engineering department. He was only a victim - from my perspective.
So many did not understand that by constantly identifying failures traceable to him, I was not accusing him. He was not a best worker. But he did his job. Instead, I was accusing a system that had him doing what he was doing. He was only doing what they wanted him to do. Attitude and knowledge.
I so remember so many people running up to me with smiles on their faces because he was fired. I remember how sad I considered it. Did not realize until then that so many people did not see as I saw it.
Fixing a system by fixing the prints may be equivalent to stopping a flood. Solution must start at the reason why those prints are wrong or confusing. Some politics cannot be changed from below. Be prepared for much frustration. Good news would be that you know what need be done before attempting it. That at least gives you a good shot.
ok first off and i apologize for what i'm fixing to say...i was wondering if you were serious here or if you were trolling. with this post i see now. and again i apologize. my fault. now that's said and done....
That engineer was fired. So many people came running up to me with what was generally regarded as good new - to everyone but me. He was making the mistakes. But he was not where the problem should be solved. I felt real bad about it. He was making those mistakes because that was the attitude in that engineering department. He was only a victim - from my perspective.
let me ask you this because i have seen it so so SO (had to pound on the keyboard for caps btw) many times....engineers tend to be fixated on the job they are on at the moment. when they are given mark-ups from a previous job they toss them aside. it is their job to make sure said mark-ups get done or at least pass them to someone who can cad them up. why then, don't they implement the changes from the prior job to the next? i've got a thousand excuses for them but it all comes down to the wire. they didn't implement them because they were lazy. imho. not to mention the engineering god complex some of them get. sheesh.
i understand your point of view on that engineer however he didn't do his job in making sure the changes fell through to the next installation.
let me ask you this because i have seen it so so SO (had to pound on the keyboard for caps btw) many times....engineers tend to be fixated on the job they are on at the moment. when they are given mark-ups from a previous job they toss them aside. it is their job to make sure said mark-ups get done or at least pass them to someone who can cad them up.
To make changes means one must have a job shop number. That account was closed by accounting. Cannot be reopened. No job number to charge to. Then no changes can be implemented. Even if he tried, he has no CAD operator to process the changes. No account to pay for filing that ECN which included sign offs by other departments.
Another problem is a 'you must have this done now' attitude. Means no time for the previous job. In that example, a second system was constructed just like the first because management assumed the first system was done. Management made no provisions for 'learning' from those mistakes because that was never done before and because they did not work where the work gets done. Best was to remain in denial because it will only increase costs – make management look bad. Engineer does not even know a second system is being assembled. In every case, it is a question of who is in charge. That is not the person with information.
How did Iacocca save Chrysler? He simply made engineers responsible. So Chrysler engineers fixed thousands of defects just in the first year. Defects were known. But they were not permitted to fix them. In but three years, Chrysler went from massive losses to record profits. No new model did that. Chrysler engineers were finally permitted and also encouraged to fix the little things. But moreso, Iacocca put the engineers back in charge.
And finally, some engineers are only doing a job. That is not a problem as long as they know what that job entails. These engineers do not take initiative - to even subvert the system in order to accomplish something. See that word 'encouraged' in the previous paragraph? It also belongs here.
You want an annual raise? Do only what accountants can measure. Just do the job as told. They really cannot be blamed for doing so. Sometimes confronting reality or dealing with an unpopular truth can only get your fired. Especially when bosses are only working for their bosses; not working for the employees.
Many if not most engineers I worked with were so beaten down that it was only a job. Many would rather have been doing something else. What they were creating provided no satisfaction. Not what they originally got into engineering to do. But they needed the paycheck. Had few to no options. If the boss does not tell them to update the prints, then don't rock the boat.
Iacocca told them to do what they got into engineering to do. It changed everything resulting in record profits in only three years.
Why would any engineer take initiative to fix problems when a system is all about reducing costs; the product be damned? Print errors do not appear on spread sheets as increased costs. Just a few suggestions why they would not bother to fix prints. In every case, these problems start at the top.
Why were GM cars so innovative in the 1950s and 1960s? Because division presidents owned their own engineering departments. And therefore protected their engineers from corporate and accounting subversion.
tw, you are remarkably lucid today.
tw, you are remarkably lucid today.
he is and because i chatted with someone tonight i shall answer every point he made. hmmm. hun? im being tested.
To make changes means one must have a job shop number. That account was closed by accounting. Cannot be reopened. No job number to charge to. Then no changes can be implemented. Even if he tried, he has no CAD operator to process the changes. No account to pay for filing that ECN which included sign offs by other departments.
are you fucking mad? you charge the changes to another job. done it for 20 years. you make do with what you have. and if you get people who are capable of doing a good efficient job then they can handle both tasks. apparently you have no experience multi-tasking.
Another problem is a 'you must have this done now' attitude. Means no time for the previous job. In that example, a second system was constructed just like the first because management assumed the first system was done. Management made no provisions for 'learning' from those mistakes because that was never done before and because they did not work where the work gets done. Best was to remain in denial because it will only increase costs – make management look bad. Engineer does not even know a second system is being assembled. In every case, it is a question of who is in charge. That is not the person with information.
your kidding right? have you no engineering experience at all do you? the shit you are throwing here? it's a fucking wonder you have a job. you're grabbing your facts from the fuckin internet and not personal experience. there is a difference. kinda like getting real pussy and watching someone jackhammer a pussy with a 10 inch dick. for christ sake at least realize what the fuck you are talking about rather than just rant about management. for fucks sake it's not always managements fault. yes sometimes it is but for the most part, in my experience, OVER THE ALMOST LAST 20 FUCKING YEARS, the engineer is to blame. quit trying to protect whatever engineer it was that may have given you the time of day. get over it and fucking move on.
How did Iacocca save Chrysler? He simply made engineers responsible. So Chrysler engineers fixed thousands of defects just in the first year. Defects were known. But they were not permitted to fix them. In but three years, Chrysler went from massive losses to record profits. No new model did that. Chrysler engineers were finally permitted and also encouraged to fix the little things. But moreso, Iacocca put the engineers back in charge.
and you are using the auto industry over the oil and gas why?
And finally, some engineers are only doing a job. That is not a problem as long as they know what that job entails. These engineers do not take initiative - to even subvert the system in order to accomplish something. See that word 'encouraged' in the previous paragraph? It also belongs here.
so do you mean to tell me that they had no idea what they were supposed to do in the first place? fuckin please. pull your god damn head out of your mother fucking ass and apply it. wait what was that i said earlier to the select few? don't feed the troll. damn it i did just that and i totally didn't want to. get your head out of your ass. take the fucking blame if you fucked up. or tell whomever to take the god damn blame. and please dont waste my time.troll.
oh i'm not done yet!
You want an annual raise? Do only what accountants can measure. Just do the job as told. They really cannot be blamed for doing so. Sometimes confronting reality or dealing with an unpopular truth can only get your fired. Especially when bosses are only working for their bosses; not working for the employees.
my mother fucking ass. got one every year. usually a dollar or more. point? mine is do your job and quit blaming others for your inadequacies. fuckin runt.
Many if not most engineers I worked with were so beaten down that it was only a job. Many would rather have been doing something else. What they were creating provided no satisfaction. Not what they originally got into engineering to do. But they needed the paycheck. Had few to no options. If the boss does not tell them to update the prints, then don't rock the boat.
then perhaps you should get with some engineers who give a shit then you would have better things to do than troll.
AND blame others for your mistakes or inadequacies. fuck off and leave this thread alone. i'm done with you.
Poor tw, I dont think he intends to get under peoples skin like he does. But, boy does he.
Poor tw, I dont think he intends to get under peoples skin like he does. But, boy does he.
This. :)
I know, I like the t-dub (probably doesn't hurt that I often agree with him) but to me he is the opposite of our UG (who I rarely agree with.) We need them both, for balance. I should know, I'm a Libra now. :lol:
I agree with tw quite frequently.
ty sir. have to quote your tag line:
"Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. "
Brother Dave Gardner
Here's another one I like in the same vein:
"Not what we have, but what we enjoy, constitutes our abundance"
-- Jean Petit-Senn
"Not what we have, but what we enjoy, constitutes our abundance, or at least 85% of it"
-- Jean Petit-tw-Senn
Improved that for you :)
A wise man once said "If we have what we have to have and don't have what we don't have to have, we have to have half of the other half to have had half of what we need to have to have a bun dance."
wait? does that mean that half of what i have i have to have half the have? or just open another beer?
good one pete and mon? ------> :lol2:
Punctuate the following sentence so that it makes sense:
Johnny while Billy had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher.
Johnny, while Billy had had "had", had had "had had"; "had had" had had a better effect on the teacher.
whoa. wait. huh? is this a management decision?
Yeah, it came straight from the suits.
Any number of "
buffalo"s in a row is a grammatically correct sentence.
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going to bed early again tonight for the interview tomorrow. hope i don't wake up bright eyed and bushy tailed at 3:30 again.
Poor tw, I dont think he intends to get under peoples skin like he does. But, boy does he.
If you have not noticed, I discover quickly those who can verses those only driven by their emotions. Surprising how easily some completely jump to conclusions or can be so easily triggered.
I am both disappointed and surprised how easily plthijinx can be ratttled. Or maybe I just got him all burned out so that he can be calm during his interviews tomorrrow.
If you have not noticed, I discover quickly those who can verses those only driven by their emotions. Surprising how easily some completely jump to conclusions or can be so easily triggered.
I am both disappointed and surprised how easily plthijinx can be ratttled. Or maybe I just got him all burned out so that he can be calm during his interviews tomorrrow.
i've been going through an extremely rough/tough time man. i've been trying to get back into engineering for quite awhile now. you go from making over 100k a year to $10 bucks an hour all while loosing practically everything you own as well as your family. my nerves are on edge. you came into the thread pulling a downer. it pissed me off.
that being said....once again i woke up at 3:30 but this time didn't get out of bed until 7:00. time to hop in the shower get ready and go get this done and land the job.
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yes. the chickens are hatched and all accounted for!! i don't know when i start because there was confusion as to who was actually doing the hiring. the engineer was under the impression that i was to be direct hire to the company. my understanding was that i was going to work on site for the company through Za. so they are going to figure that out today and get back with me. they are working on a proposal now that quite possibly relocate me out of state to either Denver or somewhere in Pennslylvania. either way....i got the job!
ty! well i'm at the go-kart track now so i have to go get to work. i'll be scarce this weekend as all weekends. fridays are my mondays still.
more later.
Congratulations! I hope everything will turn out as you hoped. :)
Excellent news! You clearly deserve it.
YYYAAHHH !!!
Bout Damn Time !!!
How completely awesome! If you get relocated to Denver you will have to come have lunch with me.
Great news! This can only lead to better times ahead.
Are they expanding? Or just replacing people?
ty all guys. and tw actually they most likely will be keeping those two guys. they want me to start out in the houston office checking panel layouts and wire continuity as well as marking up panel layout, schematics and wiring diagram drawings for the cad drafters. when/if they get the job from the proposal they sent out today then i will be going to the field office shop in either PA or Denver overlooking the panels being built there. that would be a long term assignment.
i'm still at work (at the track). i'm freakin tired and still have 2.5 hours to go.
Awesome Plthijinx! Really awesome.
i'm nervous. really nervous. i called larry today, my ex-coworker and old hunting buddy. just to put out feelers. if he dropped the dime on me to get the job i surely won't get hired. came up negative on the phone call with him but don't know. you see we don't talk that much anymore and i can totally see him dropping said dime to secure a job for himself. late in the convo i asked him how the interview went even though he didn't mention it, specifically. now yes, the interviewing engineer said i got the job but it's been two business days and i haven't heard of a start date yet. maybe i'm just paranoid. i don't know. i won't believe that i have this job until i walk in the office on the clock.
there's more though. will finish post later. have to run.....
i think, hope i'm just paranoid. but damn. i hate down time waiting.
Great thread plthijinx! Good stuff man!
You're still waiting on the start date, plthjinx?
Rumack: I just want to tell you good luck. We're all counting on you.
:lol:
Yeah, what is the latest word, man? I hope it's GREAT and good stuff!
airplane! i love it!
here is an update. finally. yes i am hired. at the rate i agreed to originally? no. 3 bucks less an hour. will i take it? absofuckingloutly. my response email was make it happen. think and know i will get a raise within 6 months. industry trend down here if you prove that you can do your job. more when i know more....
airplane! i love it!
here is an update. finally. yes i am hired. at the rate i agreed to originally? no. 3 bucks less an hour. will i take it? absofuckingloutly. my response email was make it happen. think and know i will get a raise within 6 months. industry trend down here if you prove that you can do your job. more when i know more....
Oh thank fuck for that. Good stuff Plthijinx. Bit worrying for a while. The 3 bucks an hour is a bit of a kick, but asyou say, that's not necessarily a static figure. Either way it's a step back into the industry.
Makes me wonder though, if that other guy you spoke of did try to dump your history in and instead of it getting him the job, it just made you slightly more of a risk and hence the $3/hr cut? If that's the case, and that was their response, then they sound like pretty decent employers to me.
Congrats! You'll get the other 3 bucks in time.
YEEEAAHH !!!
$3 ?? drink Bud instead of Heineken for a while
[drift]Sky I love your user title "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing" (I've quoted it to preserve it here for posterity)[/drift]
Great! Congratulations, plt! 3 bucks is not too big a deal when you are going from working at the track to engineering. When do you start, then?
[drift]Sky I love your user title "Life is either a daring adventure or nothing" (I've quoted it to preserve it here for posterity)[/drift]
It's Helen Keller. I liked it too. It is to remind me that complacency is somewhere in the middle.
Here are more quotes from her you might like.
http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Helen_Keller/
@ plt. I agree with kerosene.
Off topic question. Do YOU use much calculus in engineering?
Way to go bro... surprised I had to read about it here rather than getting a text from you...
Oh well... great news all the same. I guess you will no longer be in danger of getting plowed by the little bastards at work.
I heard they were going to replace you with a wheelchair bound midget with only one arm to increase productivity in the pit...hahaha.
Just kidding. You will be missed. Good luck with the new gig.
:lol2: froth? the midget, if he has my radio quality voice, can do the job! just put him on the mic. i will miss this job. but i won't be quitting quite yet. i will work both jobs for about a month or so. at least until i catch up on debts. after that....i will be able to come watch your bands' gigs! i'm super excited about that!
@sky, no not really. well i personally never have. i'm electrical so there's really no use for it. we have charts and tables and spreadsheets to figure out what's needed. be it cable size, wire size, conduit fill, cable tray fill....the list goes on....
at kero and all....still waiting on the date. i thought i was going to start last monday but my job shop and the firm are in contract negotiations so that's why i'm kinda up in the air. the email though i received yesterday confirmed that i do indeed have the job.
Awesome! Way to go plthijinx!
i have to say that as of lately, waiting to start this job been real nervous at to why i haven't been called in. it's as i thought, waiting on a job proposal. the following is an e-mail i just now received:
Fred here is what David respond to me just few minutes ago so just hold on.
I am still interested in Plthijinx – the holdup is the big project with the Army Corps of Engineers has not been awarded as promised – we are now told it will be Feb 7.
Congrats mate! Well done!
SO when and were are you moving for the job?
@merc - that remains to be seen. i would like denver because it's closer to home and i can make the flight myself to come see my son when i can and be on my own schedule and not the carriers. also i've been there before so it's a little more familiar. closest i've ever been to PA is over it on the way home from europe when i used to travel there every year. but really i don't care. where ever the job sends me i'm going to give it my 120%. period.
where ever the job sends me i'm going to give it my 120%. period.
That All ya Gotz ?? ;)
ssshhhhhhh really 200 but don't tell them that! gotta keep it in the green!
There ya go :)
Oh if ya do Move will they be Moveing you ??
still either denver or pa. won't know until the time comes.
@merc - that remains to be seen. i would like denver because it's closer to home and i can make the flight myself to come see my son when i can and be on my own schedule and not the carriers. also i've been there before so it's a little more familiar. closest i've ever been to PA is over it on the way home from europe when i used to travel there every year. but really i don't care. where ever the job sends me i'm going to give it my 120%. period.
Right on mate, more people would be employed if they took that attitude.
up and down on the emotions today....an email from my future employer:
Fred:
I just receive e-mail from David, He still interest to get you to work, but here is what he say:
he will let me know as soon as then get the jobs they are working to get POs, but yes you will be the one, also he say he will not be interest to hire you direct for now, so you will be working for ZA, and he will let me know as soon as the get the PO.s so lest keep in touch.
ZA
Jeez, Louise. They keep stringing you along. I'm sure you'll get it, but man that sucks.
yeah it is sorta painful. i'm not sure which is longer.....the time it took to at least get a job back in engineering or the wait time to start this job. seems like an eternity. but i am well versed in waiting that's for sure.
Sorry to hear that man. The email sounds vague. I would ask them to clarify and see if you can get some round about dates....
that would be nice merc but who the hell knows. at this point i'm considering myself lucky to even be considered for a 50k plus a year job.
well, i just got off the phone with ZA and then sent an email to the hiring engineer. still waiting to find out if the firm got the contract or not. in the convo i had with ZA i asked him if he needs a wireman or someone to do panel checkouts. he said he could use me but the position doesn;t pay what engineering does. i said it didn;t matter, it;s a job and it;s money. we are going to talk about it tomorrow. that job is contingent on the engineering job and whether or not they got the contract. in fact, the engineers from the firm are going to ZA;s shop tomorrow to check out some panels he;s been building for them. so we;ll see........
oh and either way, getting back into whatever form of engineering is a plus. ZA;s shop is clear across town as well. brittmoore and the W. beltway off of I-10. not that any of you know where that is....but to put it in retrospect.....
Shit, dude... in traffic? Better invest in some audio books.
right....but
the buzz does pretty good :)
Damn, you live all the way down there? Half of your paycheck will go into gas money. :rolleyes: And Clod's right, you're gonna be in major traffic, both on 45 and I-10.:neutral: By the way, (not an invitation to stalkers:p:) I live right there in Spring Valley. ;)
Is the Sam Houston Tollway a better route?
In Houston, there are no better routes, anywhere. People usually choose their neighborhood based on where they work.
True...true. A friend bought a house down in Pearland cuz it's nearer to his and his wife's work place.
Damn, you live all the way down there? Half of your paycheck will go into gas money. :rolleyes: And Clod's right, you're gonna be in major traffic, both on 45 and I-10.:neutral: By the way, (not an invitation to stalkers:p:) I live right there in Spring Valley. ;)
yeah, well if i leave early enough i can glide right on through. there are 3 ways to get there and back. 45 to I-10, 45 610 I-10, or 45 and the belt. yeah classic man, the belt would work. it's an easy 15 bucks round trip in gas plus more in tolls if i take the sam houston. hell that's what i pay now a day when i work at the track. i take 45 to 610 to eastex freeway. the track is almost to the north belt so if you look at the map you can kinda interpolate the drive.
oh and tulip, i start working on that side of town? lunch is on me. how;s pappadeaux's or pappasitos? i especially love the hole in the wall mom and pop type restaurants though....i miss that side of town.
Congratulations. May your cubicle be forever spacious and your task chair never squeak.
damn. phone call from ZA this morning. the firm did not get the denver contract. however i will work for ZA wiring panels on a part time basis. he said we;d talk more later.
Dang. Keep your chin up, Fred. You'll make it in the end.
well now. here is something else. ZA called me about an hour ago. he has another job interview for me. this one is testing panels to make sure they are wired correctly. 6 more bucks an hour than i make now but like i have said before (maybe not here) no job is above or below me. whatever is asked of me i will give it my all and then some. anyway, he will be calling me back with more details.
Well, it is a bummer about the contract, especially since I don't get to go have lunch with you in Denver! I am glad you have this other one in the works, though. Keep at it, man. You will get there.
I'M GOING TO WORK TOMORROW!!! HAHAAAAAAAAAAA! FUCKIN' SWEEEEEET!
ZA called me just now and wants me in the shop to take care of a customer because he is going to be in and out all day. don;t know my whole objective but it;s work in my field!!! fuckin' A!!
*plthijinx inserts foot in door*
I'M GOING TO WORK TOMORROW!!! HAHAAAAAAAAAAA! FUCKIN' SWEEEEEET!
ZA called me just now and wants me in the shop to take care of a customer because he is going to be in and out all day. don;t know my whole objective but it;s work in my field!!! fuckin' A!!
WAY TO GO MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ty ALL! i mean that sincerely! i;m tired as all get out but it;s worth it.
Here is what i have been up to all week. and hopefully next. and the next. ZA is still trying to get me into the engineering firm. the engineer i was with on tuesday works for them. he said that the project is still in negotiations but that he works in the dallas office so he didn;t know any details. if it happens it happens. i;m working again in my field and this job here is fun! even though a designer or two deserves a bitch slap.
even though a designer or two deserves a bitch slap.
Don't they Normally deserve 1
Looks like i'm going to pittsburg pa! They got the contract. 3 weeks on 1 week off then back for 3 more weeks!
That's where I'm from! What part of Pittsburgh will you be in?
I have no clue. I only got the phone call an hour ago. Will know more next monday. What parts should I avoid?
Depends on if you mean at night or always. There aren't too many places that are really bad during the day. At night, I wouldn't go into East Liberty, the Hill District, Parts of Downtown. That being said, if you get the opportunity to choose where you live, I would tend to lean more towards Squirrel Hill. It can get congested, but you can walk just about anywhere. It is a Jewish community, but it is very diverse in the types of people that go there.
Oakland is where Pitt is and unless you don't mind being overrun with students. I wouldn't live there again, but there are some places to try for food and parks
Shadyside is near Squirrel Hill and is pretty nice, but pricey. It leans more toward the yuppie side.
South Side is the place where there are 100 bars on one street. Nice if you like variety, but can get really busy when school is in session. I liked going to the Irish pub there or my favorite coffee shop - the Beehive :D
Just a quick rundown for ya! I will be able to give you more when you know where it is. Sometimes people say Pittsburgh, but it really isn't there.
PS - congrats :)
YA !!!
yer going DEEEEEP Into yanke Land !!!!!
What parts should I avoid?
Those attached to ladies with suspiciously high collars and a hint of a five-o-clock shadow who offer to come home with you for free.
Those attached to ladies with suspiciously high collars and a hint of a five-o-clock shadow who offer to come home with you for free.
:eek:
ty tulip....does anyone or can anyone compare the cost of living expenses up there? i realize it depends on where you live but i was just curious. this week at the go kart track i'm run ragged and have no time for anything due to spring break and have had no time for research. in fact i just got out of bed but have to hop in the shower and leave to be at work at 11:30. one more day of this. thank god.
http://swz.salary.com/CostOfLivingWizard/LayoutScripts/Coll_Start.aspx
You can enter your current city and future city and salary and it will tell you the difference
Holy crap! I should move ... anywhere!
YA !!!
yer going DEEEEEP Into yanke Land !!!!!
50 miles north of the Mason-Dixon Line.
Fred, I told you so. :p:
ty bruce. it's a long ass slow ass process. the pic below describes how i feel. i went in to the shop this morning expecting to go to the client for a meeting. yeah. no. we got an email around 2 this afternoon saying that the client is not returning phone calls and that we have to wait for them for confirmation. huh? you got the contract, why are they stalling. whatev. it happens. i do know this though now....i will not be relocating to pitt only doing the 3 week on 1 week off rotation. company pays for living and travel. i keep up the rotation until the project is complete. so here is the picture of how i feel.....
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