Winter - 2010

Lamplighter • Nov 23, 2010 2:37 am
PDX is under a winter storm alert. Only light snow and breeze now

TV said Seattle is at 6 deg with 40 mph winds
Seattle is like big brother to PDX... always got to be more so

Tues is supposed to be frozen streets - coldest in yrs.
Wed is supposed to be even colder - maybe 17 deg
Trilby • Nov 23, 2010 7:23 am
Lamplighter - it was so hot here in SW ohio yesterday that I had to put the A/C on. It was 70 degrees out on Nov. 22!

Our winters are getting hotter and dryer - we're in a draught right now.
piercehawkeye45 • Nov 23, 2010 9:01 am
Windchills already dropped below zero here last night. On Saturday, we had freezing rain that resulted in very slippery black ice and caused over 400 accidents in our metro area. It's going to be a snowy cold winter.
skysidhe • Nov 23, 2010 10:18 am
Campus closed due to icy roads.
Sundae • Nov 23, 2010 11:56 am
Meh.

My parents' DOOMSAYING!!!! newspaper has us in a new Ice Age by the end of the week.
Then again they have an anti-global-warming agenda supported by their ageing readership, who still need to wear cardigans all summer and therefore have proof it's all a tax fraud by two successive Governments.

Apparently there will be snow in Scotland. There's always snow in Scotald (sorry Limey)
And oop North. There's always snow there too (sorry Dana)
But snow in the safe and protected Vale of Aylesbury, where clever settlers settled because it was safe and protected by the surrounding hills? Nope. We get drizzle.

I am so ungrateful.
I need to move North, or work in a school where I have to break a path to the door every morning, and have the children huddle round the stove until they thaw out.
But Dakota is a long way away.
Lamplighter • Nov 23, 2010 1:43 pm
Aaaack ! Freezing rain last night - both doors on truck are frozen shut.
The door latch sounds as if it is free and the lock is unlocked,
so I think it is ice getting into the rubber insulation around the door.

No electric outlet nearby so hair dryer is not going to happen
I've tried WD40 - no joy
I'm waiting for sun shine

What do you guys in the cold country do to prevent this ?
glatt • Nov 23, 2010 2:23 pm
freezing rains is actually pretty rare in the cold country. You end up with snow when it's cold.

Have you checked all the doors? One might open, and you can crawl over the seat, get the engine going and warm the car up to melt the ice.

edit: Never mind, I see it's a 2 door truck.
jimhelm • Nov 23, 2010 3:23 pm
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Gravdigr • Nov 23, 2010 3:40 pm
Brianna;695717 wrote:
Lamplighter - it was so hot here in SW ohio yesterday that I had to put the A/C on. It was 70 degrees out on Nov. 22!

Our winters are getting hotter and dryer - we're in a draught right now.


Here in south central KY last night, it was 69 degrees at fifteen minutes till midnight! Thunderstorms all night long...
busterb • Nov 23, 2010 7:54 pm
Same shit here in deep south. Doors and windows opened. But, but that just might change in a few days. Foggy tonight also.
BigV • Nov 23, 2010 9:46 pm
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Yesterday.

Today was just as bad, since it only got up to about 25 degrees.
Aliantha • Nov 23, 2010 11:27 pm
Lamplighter;695773 wrote:
Aaaack ! Freezing rain last night - both doors on truck are frozen shut.
The door latch sounds as if it is free and the lock is unlocked,
so I think it is ice getting into the rubber insulation around the door.

No electric outlet nearby so hair dryer is not going to happen
I've tried WD40 - no joy
I'm waiting for sun shine

What do you guys in the cold country do to prevent this ?


Couldn't you just boil the kettle and tip hot water on it?

I wouldn't really know if this would work though. I'm definitely not from a cold climate.
Clodfobble • Nov 23, 2010 11:28 pm
Tank top weather.
Lamplighter • Nov 24, 2010 12:06 am
Sunlight + WD40 seemed to do the job late this afternoon
Sunlight sans WD40 - no joy... but all is OK now, after a push from the inside

I thought about hot water, but was concerned it might might freeze up the door again tonight and take the latch and/or lock with it this time.

But thanks for the idea...
skysidhe • Nov 24, 2010 12:40 am
It's too bad the Pacific Northwest gets the occasional ice storm that makes driving treacherous but never enough snow to make seasoned pros.
Trilby • Nov 24, 2010 10:09 am
Nov. 24th - HOTT.

I was in Maine this summer and it was HOTT - hotter than it's ever been IIRC. In Maine. MAINE!


It's still hott out IN oHIO -70 degrees (that's about 400 F for our Euro Pals)

but...the ice caps aren't melting.

at all..
Sundae • Nov 24, 2010 12:44 pm
Brianna;695940 wrote:
It's still hott out IN oHIO -70 degrees (that's about 400 F for our Euro Pals)

Snicker.

I thought it was Be Safe Be Seen Day today. I wore my custom made t-shirt. As it was quite garish by the-rest-of-the-world's standards, I wore my knitted cape over the top. Halfway to school I realise that NONE OF THE CHILDREN I am walking past are in anything other than school uniform. Uh-oh. Turns our FRIDAY is Wear Something Bright Day. I was right not to take my cloak off as I wanted to. (Dad came out to deliver me another top - neither of the 'rents are really talking to me right now)

Although funnily enough, the teachers are already making plans for Friday on the possibility of snow. Just working out lunchtimes and replacements for outside PE, but they're taking it seriously. I hope it snows, but for once I've a reason not to want a heavy snowfall - the school will be closed and no-one will see my creation!

FTR - bright pink with glitter and fluorescent stickers :)
Gravdigr • Nov 24, 2010 3:13 pm
Aliantha;695888 wrote:
Couldn't you just boil the kettle and tip hot water on it?

I wouldn't really know if this would work though. I'm definitely not from a cold climate.


Don't get the super-hot water on the super-cold glass, or you'll have a different problem.
SamIam • Nov 24, 2010 3:56 pm
Its been spitting snow all day. Tonight's low is predicted to be 2 degrees. We'll warn up to a balmy 27 for Thanksgiving.
monster • Nov 24, 2010 4:12 pm
Spray Deicer works well on frozen doors as well as frosted windows. Just make sure you don't leave it in the car
Lamplighter • Nov 25, 2010 12:15 am
Our cold spell has broken.
Each of the 167 tomorrows will be back to the normal drizzle and rain with temp above freezing.

Happy Thanksgiving to all Dwellers in the US ... :grouphug:

(P.S. apologies to Canadian Dwellars for overlooking yours ... will do better next October)
Clodfobble • Nov 25, 2010 12:26 am
Ah ha ha. Joke's on us. Today was 80. Tomorrow will be 75. Tomorrow night will be... 35. Grrrrreat.
Urbane Guerrilla • Dec 5, 2010 11:54 pm
And this in from the Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1335798/Global-warming-halted-Thats-happened-warmest-year-record.html

Perhaps the most significant thing in the article is the question posed in the last sentence.
Griff • Dec 6, 2010 7:42 am
2 hour snow related school delay.
Griff • Dec 6, 2010 8:28 am
and closed.
glatt • Dec 6, 2010 8:31 am
lucky bum
DanaC • Dec 6, 2010 8:46 am
What gets me is when I hear things like: 'Britain is experiencing an extreme weather event'

And there was I thinking it had just snowed in December.
Griff • Dec 6, 2010 1:42 pm
glatt;698609 wrote:
lucky bum


I still had to work doing lesson planning and whatnot...
be-bop • Dec 8, 2010 7:01 pm
DanaC;698612 wrote:
What gets me is when I hear things like: 'Britain is experiencing an extreme weather event'

And there was I thinking it had just snowed in December.



Yer having a laugh :D
It's chaos in scotland, the M8 main motorway from edinburgh to Glasgow has just re-opened after being closed for 3 days.
They had to send the army in to rescue people trapped in cars.
-18 last night and not much bloody warmer tonight.
Just snowed!!!!!!
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR............
DanaC • Dec 9, 2010 8:46 am
I didn't say there wasn't a lot of snow :p

rather: It's December and it's snowing. The degree of shock, surprise, panic and general noise enusing from that fact is disproportionate.

It's a pain in the arse. It's disruptive to transport and services, and sometimes people get caught out and endangered by their exposure to the elements.

It's still just snow in December.

El Nino, Hurricane Katrina, a mini ice-age, tsunamis, large-scale flooding, a country wide freeze lasting several months, or a whiteout in Summer. These things are extreme weather events.
Shawnee123 • Dec 9, 2010 9:01 am
Ain't it the truth? I've said the same about our local news. Snow is coming. Well gee, it's winter in Ohio, snow is to be expected. The local news stations get all atwitter screaming "The White Death is coming. The White Death is coming. RUN!"
Bullitt • Dec 9, 2010 12:21 pm
I don't know where abouts you live in OH, but up here north of Akron we have about 2ft of snow. Which is a little unusual this early into winter.
Went for a hike in the woods yesterday with the dog, she loved the deep snow. Dummy wouldn't stay on the trail i was stomping out for her.

Deer in the backyard
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Lots of snow
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The 17 y/o dog blazing her own trail. Because she can.
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Shawnee123 • Dec 9, 2010 12:47 pm
Bullitt: I live in the middle of the state way on the west side. We've had some snow but nothing to speak of really. It was unusual because it was so warm for so long, then it snowed and is so cold. Of course, the whole U.S. of A. is cold. It seemed like one day I was driving my car with the lid down (in NOVEMBER) and the next I was freezing to death.

That snow looks pretty. If I didn't have to drive so far in it I might not hate it so much. Plus, with all the traffic and humans tromping about, it gets dirty and ugly. I love your pictures though. That's what show should be! Nature Girl would like that snow.
Lamplighter • Dec 11, 2010 9:02 am
The talking TV weatherheads are predicting a MAJOR storm for PDX this weekend... 4-6 inches of rain.

They call it the "pineapple express" when these big storms come out of the SW Pacific.
The last such event was 1996, when the Willamette River (thru downtown Portland) had really major flooding.

Here is a link to a "real time" weather radar map I use to follow the storm fronts thruout North America.
Easy access to lots and lots of data, graphs, pics, etc.

Right now (6 am PST) the front seems to be reaching Salem, OR... about 50 miles S of Portland.
TheMercenary • Dec 11, 2010 9:22 am
It is going to be in the 60's this weekend, then back to the 40's. These pictures only remind me of why I love living in Savannah. :D

Oh, nice pictures btw.
Lamplighter • Dec 12, 2010 1:30 am
What a wimp of a storm... so far :neutral:
Just over 1 inch of rain; temps reached 60 F... just like Georgia

The warning are still up til Monday am, so we'll see if the TV gurus can redeem themselves.
piercehawkeye45 • Dec 12, 2010 7:29 pm
17 inches of snow in less than 24 hours causing the Metrodome roof to collapse and the roads to become undrivable. The snowplows even gave up for a while.
TheMercenary • Dec 12, 2010 7:42 pm
Why would anyone choose to live in such a place. I could easily live in Alaska, but of course there are few people there. But to live in a city where there are hundreds of idiot drivers and people desperate to get from point A to point B sounds like nothing short of stupidity.
piercehawkeye45 • Dec 13, 2010 8:38 am
Haha. I'm sorry Merc but I would rather drive in Minneapolis during a 17 inch snowstorm than anywhere in the south after they have gotten more than an inch.
monster • Dec 13, 2010 9:06 am
Free football in Detroit tonight -and not the Lions!

Snow Day here. two kids happy, one not, although i may just be about to fix that...... (fingers crossed)
Lamplighter • Dec 13, 2010 10:09 am
Our forecasters set everyone in the PDX area up for a MAJOR storm.
People filling sandbags, taking yard stuff inside, road barriers up in low-lying areas,
boats out of the rivers, steelhead fishing postponed, etc.

What a limp whip of a weather front !
This edition of the "Pineapple Express" held the temps
at 57-60 deg over the weekend and drizzled a bit over 1 inch of rain.
Maybe further north in WA it was as predicted,
but here it was just another December wekend in the Willamette valley.

Job Performance ratings for our TV weathermen are below efficiency ratings of the French army.
skysidhe • Dec 13, 2010 10:35 am
As the creeks were rising, I watched carefully. If the creek I live close to floods over into the street,it would be no big deal, but my sister lives close to the river. My mom lives there too. I didn't want to the river to get to flood-stage. It was at 22 feet last night. Where I am, flood level is at 28 feet.

In 1996 it flooded at 37 feet which wasn't catastrophic but the water would have covered the ground at least knee high in some places. I am glad the waters are receding.. or halting.
TheMercenary • Dec 14, 2010 2:19 pm
23 Degrees this morning at 7 am when I left work. Coldest it has been around here for a long time.
Lamplighter • Dec 14, 2010 3:06 pm
National Weather Service has just issued a tornado warning for area just east of Salem, OR.

This is really unusual !

....

Some damage to buildings in a small community called Aumsville, no injuries reported

National Weather Service has returned to normal
45 min later... TV weathermen are still orgasmic
skysidhe • Dec 14, 2010 4:51 pm
Image

Yep, and here it is.

http://www.kgw.com/home/Tornado-touches-down-in-Aumsville-Ore-111870589.html
Lamplighter • Dec 14, 2010 4:56 pm
Sky, that's a fantastic pic !
Did you take it ?
skysidhe • Dec 14, 2010 5:01 pm
No! I googled it. If I saw that thing, I would have been heading for the hills. :)
Happy Monkey • Dec 16, 2010 12:32 pm
I think we're well on our way for a snow accumulation that will cover the grass.
DanaC • Dec 16, 2010 12:37 pm
We just had a few minor snow flurries today. Am hoping against hope that it doesn't turn into a snowy nightmare. Doesn't take that much snow to make travel difficult in a semi-rural setting.
Shawnee123 • Dec 16, 2010 12:43 pm
I envied the jobless today. The roads were treacherous: interstate crawling except for some semi drivers (whatever podunk got their CDL this week) who thought it fun to flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy while cars skidded right and left. Selfish fuckers. Yeah, you're all safe way up there, I'd prefer to live through the day, so watch out for us little guys, Big Penis Macho Driver Man. Surface streets not even yet treated.

I hate winter.
Sundae • Dec 16, 2010 2:24 pm
We've had our first few flakes today, knowing it will come to nothing until at least Saturday.

Ooh - Dana!
Apologies if I've already told you. I was talking to our caretaker about snow and he said he saw enough of it in his youth to appreciate living in a protected area. Not wanting to appear a complete Southern pansy, I boasted about my connection with someone who saw REAL snow, only to find he knew Northowram. He said to tell you he was born and brought up in Old Town. And his father worked in the Asbestos Mill there. If that's not too colourful an anecdote to be true.

I said I'd pass it on.
DanaC • Dec 16, 2010 3:20 pm
Depending on his age, that's quite likely. There was a factory in Old Town (which is an area of Hebden Bridge) which made gas masks or something. After the war it continued to make asbestos products. It was only actually closed in the 70s.

The impact on health was huge: there are still claims being argued over I believe.

Here's a piece the Courier did on it a while back:

http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/Valley39s-darkest-secret.685119.jp
TheMercenary • Dec 17, 2010 11:12 pm
Relief. 68 degrees today. Beautiful. Our winter does not come until Jan. and it only lasts about 6 weeks, thank God.
DanaC • Dec 18, 2010 6:22 am
There's about 6 inches of snow outside at the moment.
skysidhe • Dec 18, 2010 12:24 pm
Cold cold rain. It is always raining. It never stops.

gunmetal clouds, grey sky, green trees and dripping sopping moisture

I am so cold. I would rather have snow.
Sundae • Dec 18, 2010 1:13 pm
We got snow and
We got snow.
We got snow and
We got snow.
We got snow and
La la la.
Snowy in my place.

About 3 inches.
Probably won't get any more according to the reports, but I'm happy happy happy.
Deepest snowfall - at least in one day - since I was a child.
DanaC • Dec 18, 2010 1:35 pm
Sundae Girl;700750 wrote:
We got snow and
We got snow.
We got snow and
We got snow.
We got snow and
La la la.
Snowy in my place.

About 3 inches.
Probably won't get any more according to the reports, but I'm happy happy happy.
Deepest snowfall - at least in one day - since I was a child.


Seriously? I thought you guys got a little last year?
Sundae • Dec 18, 2010 1:54 pm
Oh we had some, but noting like this deep and certainaly not in one day.
My inches guess might be off - I was brought up between the two measurements and instead of being bilingual I'm just incapable at both. Off to get a ruler ...

6 inches!
14cm
Griff • Dec 18, 2010 3:38 pm
I just put my new snow-blower on the New Holland.... c'mon snow!!! What's taking so long?
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 18, 2010 4:02 pm
Ooh, nice. :D
Lamplighter • Dec 20, 2010 10:01 am
Past couple of days were really nice, sunny and briskly cold.
Unfortunately, overnight we're back to PDX's typical drizzle

Anyone get to see the Winter Solstice eclipse ?

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Oooooops, it's going to happen tonight, Dec 20 - 21 !
My mistake
Lamplighter • Dec 31, 2010 9:27 pm
Brrrrr.... PDX is supposed to get down to 24 F tonight.
I know, that's nothing compared to the midwest but it's well beyond chilly for us.

This cold is in coming from eastern Oregon where it's predicted to be -14 tonight on the OR-ID border.

We did have some ice on the roads, but with no rain it has been going away.
Trilby • Jan 1, 2011 10:20 am
we had a little earthquake - some thunder - 60 degrees - tornados - all in winter.

End Times??
TheMercenary • Jan 2, 2011 8:24 pm
68 Degrees in Savannah today, 70 on Monday.
Lamplighter • Jan 4, 2011 10:47 am
Another spectacular sunrise in the Willamette Valley...
Shawnee123 • Jan 4, 2011 10:50 am
What is PDX?
footfootfoot • Jan 4, 2011 12:07 pm
Portland, OR. int'l airport.
Shawnee123 • Jan 4, 2011 12:11 pm
Oh yeah, lighter lives at the airport. I forgot.
Pico and ME • Jan 4, 2011 3:35 pm
Just call him Viktor.
Shawnee123 • Jan 4, 2011 3:36 pm
What's the vector, Viktor?
Lamplighter • Jan 17, 2011 12:23 pm
NW Oregon is seeing high water and landslides from a major rain and wind storm.
Landslides are fairly common this time of year when the ground has been soaked.
Several roads in the Coastal and Cascade ranges are now closed, often in both directions.

The Sandy River drains west on Mt Hood, and is famous from journals
of Lewis and Clark (quicksand) and diaries of people on the Oregon Trail.
Yesterday, it came very close to setting a new record...

The fellows in this rig by the Wilson River were very lucky in the timing of this slide.
These are their comments from another forum.

We were at milepost 6. Pics were taken around 8. We hit the slide around 5:30. The dent in the rig was from the root ball behind us hitting the side I'm pretty sure. (we heard it hit us when the slide began). I jumped out of the rig after the initial slide and before the rig started moving out of the right lane and toward the river. The mud was almost waist deep but I managed to get back to solid ground only to look back and see the whole setup shifting again. I was quite happy when the water broke through the mud and the slide stopped! Dad would have been gone for sure.
<snip>
While we were workin on things, the telephone wires and poles started swaying something fierce. After a short walk west, we found another slide that made this one look like a dream. Huge trees fell and took out the power lines on the opposite side of the road. This new slide was over 100 yards wide and 20 foot tall....wicked. I wanted to climb up it for some pics but with the downed lines and given the terrain it just looked too unstable. They hadn't started on it when we got out at 11. My guess is the highway will be closed for a while.
Lamplighter • Jan 18, 2011 4:54 pm
This video is of the Sandy River on 1/16/11 (see my 1/1711 post just above)
It was posted on another forum. The credits say it was done by Alexandra Erikson

Awesome power... although the Sandy is a very small river,
it is usually just a bit too big to wade across in the summer.
It is usually fished for salmon from the bank and by driftboat
Not today !

Everyone on line is commenting on the number of trees in the river.
The road over LoLo Pass (in the video) was eventually washed out completely, and is now closed.

[VIMEO]18921387[/VIMEO]

Here is another link with still pic's
Lamplighter • Feb 1, 2011 10:33 am
When a "blue norther" swallows the midwest and then moves east,
the cold spreads west into Oregon and down the Columbia River Gorge.

East of the Cascades, we often get freezing rain with the east winds.
But then, we can also get spectacular clear and cold. That's today !!!

Portlanders truly appreciate clear winter mornings because
more often than not it is cloudy or low fog, if not raining.

Today, it was well worth being up just before sunrise to enjoy the stars
and spreading colors of light, a cold light breeze, and restless firs.

Knowing the steelhead are already in the rivers helps too.
wolf • Feb 1, 2011 10:50 am
I am awaiting the arrival of the Groundhog.
glatt • Feb 1, 2011 10:57 am
I cut through my side yard and walk down my neighbor's driveway on my walk to the Metro each day. This morning, I briefly felt like a kid again. Her driveway (which I shoveled on Sunday) had a very thin coat of ice. Thin enough that if you wanted to walk on it, you could. But thick enough that if you wanted to slide on it, you also could. It slopes gently downhill, so I took a few steps and pushed off. Slid gracefully down the length of the driveway in a surfer's stance.
Griff • Feb 1, 2011 11:47 am
I drove to work and back this morning, choosing to drive the 4x4 GMC pickup, in an effort to offend tw. No students today but being a non-union contractor means I need to make pointless gestures instead of working from home.
Clodfobble • Feb 1, 2011 2:52 pm
Ugh.

Yesterday it was 80 degrees, and we went to the playground in tank tops. Today it is 20 degrees, and tonight the wind chill is supposed to take it to -5. That's just plain retarded. People around here don't know how to deal with cold, myself included.
TheMercenary • Feb 3, 2011 10:28 am
It was absolutely beautiful here yesterday as well. In the mid 80's. Today it is 49 or something close. Spring is near.