Random NSFW pic (warning)

fo0hzy • Nov 23, 2010 1:53 am
I have no info about this pic. Seems to be from the 1920's or '30s. Sad.

Image
fo0hzy • Nov 23, 2010 1:55 am
There's a ton of crime scene pics online. This one struck my heart.
Trilby • Nov 23, 2010 2:03 am
um...

bruce?
fo0hzy • Nov 23, 2010 2:11 am
Yes.... Bruce?
Undertoad • Nov 23, 2010 2:31 am
Moved to Quality Images. Sorry, not really IotD material.
footfootfoot • Nov 23, 2010 9:30 am
I find these images w/o any attribution or description bordering on snuff porn. They are completely gratuitous.

Pass.
Lamplighter • Nov 23, 2010 9:44 am
Agreed
jimhelm • Nov 23, 2010 10:27 am
yeah, what the fuck.
Spexxvet • Nov 23, 2010 10:44 am
They are not just NSFW, they're graphic, disturbing, violent images, and should be labelled as such.
skysidhe • Nov 23, 2010 10:46 am
This person is crazy. More than annoying. Insane
Flint • Nov 23, 2010 12:37 pm
We need a sploiler alert HIGHER than NSFW.
wolf • Nov 23, 2010 12:58 pm
TFU for Totally Fucked Up?
Sundae • Nov 23, 2010 1:44 pm
Meh - grim as it is, it could be staged.

People were still fucked up in black & white days, y'know.
Fucked up enough to murder kids if it's real anyway.
Gravdigr • Nov 23, 2010 1:59 pm
Yeah, well, they shoulda got in the trunk like Mama said.

Hey, about a Cellar thingie like animals on Friday's IOTD?

Tasteless Tuesday?
glatt • Nov 23, 2010 2:05 pm
I'd like the cellar to strive for good taste, especially in the IotD. I would be dismayed if we went with images like this one with any frequency.
Bullitt • Nov 23, 2010 2:13 pm
UT: I've seen other forums that have this "spoiler" button you can use in posts to hide potentially offensive material like this within posts, forcing the reader to click on the button to view the image after entering the thread. Prevents the reader from being smacked in the face by an image like that when you just want to read replies. Any chance of that becoming an option for stuff like this?
Trilby • Nov 23, 2010 2:16 pm
footfootfoot;695728 wrote:
I find these images w/o any attribution or description bordering on snuff porn. They are completely gratuitous.

Pass.


exactly.
Gravdigr • Nov 23, 2010 3:14 pm
Ok, the pic is (to me, anyway) obviously a crime scene photo, which definitely would not be 'gratuitous'. This use of the pic may be...

I don't find it in particularly good taste, but, I think I can handle it. A little shock and awe never hurt nobody.
jimhelm • Nov 23, 2010 3:19 pm
tell Iraq that shit
skysidhe • Nov 23, 2010 3:34 pm
What's the story anyway?

Just shock and awe?

He just wanted to look at dead kid pics and this one touched his heart? His heart? What does that mean? He felt bad? Was pissed about it? or was this one out of many that just struck a cord. Touched his heart as in, hit that sweet spot?

It's sick and after 54 some posts later my instincts are confirmed.
footfootfoot • Nov 23, 2010 3:42 pm
Gravdigr;695803 wrote:
Ok, the pic is (to me, anyway) obviously a crime scene photo, which definitely would not be 'gratuitous'. This use of the pic may be...

I don't find it in particularly good taste, but, I think I can handle it. A little shock and awe never hurt nobody.


Obviously it is a crime scene photograph.
Obviously I meant the posting of the pic is gratuitous, seeing as this is not the "Discuss early 20th C forensic photography" thread.

Gratuitous:
Not called for by the circumstances; uncalled-for; without reason, cause, or proof; adopted or asserted without any good ground; unjustified.

not *may be*, is.
Griff • Nov 24, 2010 9:46 am
I'm with the crowd on this. There is no content here outside of shock and that isn't the cellar niche. He's gonna have to get his shit together or we'll have to start the discussion about thread starting rights.
Trilby • Nov 24, 2010 10:07 am
foohzy is a shit stirr=er/.

watch douche bags defend him/her.

And learn.

stu[id flanders!
Spexxvet • Nov 24, 2010 12:59 pm
I want my NSFW to show nudity, not gore.
Gravdigr • Nov 24, 2010 2:20 pm
footfootfoot;695816 wrote:
...seeing as this is not the "Discuss early 20th C forensic photography" thread.


And yet...we are.
Gravdigr • Nov 24, 2010 2:28 pm
footfootfoot;695816 wrote:
Gratuitous:
Not called for by the circumstances; uncalled-for; without reason, cause, or proof; adopted or asserted without any good ground; unjustified.


Isn't that the vast majority of photos on the Cellar? An LOLcat is gratuitous. The entirety of the WTF, WTF NSFW threads would be gratuitous.

I understand and respect your opinion/reasoning, I just disagree with dismissing the photo as completely useless and without worth.
Gravdigr • Nov 24, 2010 2:50 pm
Griff;695933 wrote:
I'm with the crowd on this. There is no content here outside of shock and that isn't the cellar niche. He's gonna have to get his shit together or we'll have to start the discussion about thread starting rights.


Really? Because some of us disagree on the social usefulness of a photograph? Gonna burn some books later?

Speaking as a poster that has had more than one Dwellar jump down my throat over a photo, Ima defend this guy. Freedom of speech, [SIZE="1"]or something.[/SIZE] Proper thread placement not withstanding.

Foohzy ain't stirred up near as much shit as some of the rest of us have. And no one wanted to curtail their/our Cellar rights. If it's happened since I've been here, I ain't seen it, and I've witnessed some Dwellars get positively vitriolic and quite personal with other Dwellars.

I'm with the crowd on this. There is no content here outside of shock and that isn't the cellar niche...


I disagree here, somewhat, also. The WTF thread, well, I see no way around it, that's shock. Of a different degree, yes, but, shock nonetheless. The WTF NSFW thread? Shock.

Ya can't sanction Foohzy for offending our personal sensibilities. I think there is a certain value in just that trait.

:rant:
Gravdigr • Nov 24, 2010 2:57 pm
Brianna;695939 wrote:
foohzy is a shit stirr=er/.


fo0hzy;695696 wrote:
I have no info about this pic. Seems to be from the 1920's or '30s. Sad.


fo0hzy;695697 wrote:
There's a ton of crime scene pics online. This one struck my heart.


fo0hzy;695705 wrote:
Yes.... Bruce?


Shit-stirrer? He don't even got a stick.
Undertoad • Nov 24, 2010 3:03 pm
The problem isn't that he posted a pic Grav, it's that he posted it in Image of the Day.
Lamplighter • Nov 24, 2010 3:28 pm
UT, that's a difference without a difference
classicman • Nov 24, 2010 4:03 pm
Undertoad;695973 wrote:
it's that he posted it in Image of the Day.


That was corrected as it should have been - know he knows... It was a n00b mistake. didn't seem to be any malice intended.
Maybe he can have his own thread for gore and dead kids and severed heads or whatever gets him off..
Griff • Nov 24, 2010 4:17 pm
Gravdigr;695971 wrote:
... Gonna burn some books later?..

...Ya can't sanction Foohzy for offending our personal sensibilities. I think there is a certain value in just that trait.

:rant:

The cellar isn't a public library or a school, the cellar is a unique community of users who expect certain qualities in postings. We ask for these qualities often failing to get them but that we still strive for them. I'm sure you can find snuff pics elsewhere on the net without leaving your chair. We link to crazy shit from here all the time. That is the beauty of the net, there is a place for any garbage we want to find. I just don't wish to find it here. This is a freely organized group of people we can rant, shun, avoid, or ignore at will. Even anarchists organize, they just don't use a gun to have their way.

Undertoad;695973 wrote:
The problem isn't that he posted a pic Grav, it's that he posted it in Image of the Day.


Lamplighter;695985 wrote:
UT, that's a difference without a difference


IOTD is a long-standing draw for the cellar people expect photography and content that they can view from work with their morning cup. The picture labeled for violent content in a thread discussing such probably passes muster and is ignored. Slipped into IOTD it becomes a serious problem.

I've been wrong before and will be wrong again but that is how I see this.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 24, 2010 4:49 pm
You're not wrong, Griff. IOtD is part of the Cellar but different. A shitload of people see it here, and never see the Cellar. When they click on that bookmark, or their RSS feed, no amount of NSFW warnings in the post title will help, because it opens up smack in their face, often at work. At one time I tried to encourage restraint on language in the IOtD, but got throughly smacked down on that one.

We hope some IOtDers will be curious enough to click on the Cellar link, I did.
Sundae • Nov 25, 2010 5:12 pm
xoxoxoBruce;696018 wrote:
You're not wrong, Griff. IOtD is part of the Cellar but different. A shitload of people see it here, and never see the Cellar. When they click on that bookmark, or their RSS feed, no amount of NSFW warnings in the post title will help, because it opens up smack in their face, often at work. At one time I tried to encourage restraint on language in the IOtD, but got throughly smacked down on that one.

We hope some IOtDers will be curious enough to click on the Cellar link, I did.

I'm not sure you did Bruce, unless it was another conversation before my time. I know I check my language and innuendo when posting in IoTD - and I'm sure others do too - given what motherfucking cunt bastards we can be the rest of the time.

IoTD is our shop window - although given that I dropped in that way perhaps you should be less careful about scaring people off ;)
Stormieweather • Nov 25, 2010 10:26 pm
I did. Someone posted a link to an IoTD and after looking at that, I surfed my way around the site...eventually joining.

The photo in this thread is simply horrible. I could barely glance at it.
Gravdigr • Nov 26, 2010 3:10 am
Undertoad;695973 wrote:
The problem isn't that he posted a pic Grav, it's that he posted it in Image of the Day.


Yeah, I get that it was moved from IOTD. I didn't think anyone had a problem with that, I know I don't. I thought we were arguing about the picture itself, whether it should exist, and if it should ever be seen by human eyes.

I'm done arguing either way. Ima :chill: and :corn:.
richlevy • Nov 27, 2010 6:14 pm
Ok, here goes.

The image is disturbing. The motivations for posting it are unclear.

That being said, I do find one redeeming attribute. It might serve as a reminder that those who remember the 'good old days' have selective amnesia.

I caught just a small part of the 'Wartorn' documentary on HBO. But it served as a reminder that all of the PTSD stuff that veterans are going through today is nothing new. The same can be said of the result of having no safety net in the 20's and 30's. There is a huge difference between being homeless and literally starving to death. There are stories of desperate men killing themselves and their families. I don't know how prevalent it was, but consider the desperation of someone who has nowhere to go.

Anyone who thinks 'simpler times' means better should look at a lot more of those photos.
classicman • Nov 27, 2010 7:20 pm
They were simpler - as in not as fast paced nor complicated.
No one said that bad things never happened.
Sundae • Nov 28, 2010 7:03 am
classicman;696599 wrote:

No one said that bad things never happened.

Meh - you should try reading my parents' newspaper.
Apparently there was a golden age sometime after WWII where the local bobby smacked kids about and kept them in line, National Service meant there were no criminals and gangsters kept crime off the streets and worshipped their dear old Mums.
Gravdigr • Dec 1, 2010 3:30 pm
Some British comedian said this (I think):

Merkin Cops: "Stop, or I'll shoot!"
Bobbies: "Stop, or I'll say 'Stop!' again!" [COLOR="Silver"](See, they don't/didn't carry guns.)[/COLOR]
plthijinx • Dec 30, 2010 12:53 am
glatt;695781 wrote:
I'd like the cellar to strive for good taste, especially in the IotD. I would be dismayed if we went with images like this one with any frequency.


Ditto