Bike Helmets
In Qld, you have to wear a helmet when you're on a bicycle. I assume that's the law throughout Australia.
Today, some coppers pulled up a 15 yr old boy for not wearing a helmet, and instead of fining him, they made him let down his tyres and walk home.
Personally, aside from thinking it was a pretty amusing way of dealing with a teenager, I think it was also inventive, and gave the kid some time to think about what an idiot he was for not wearing his helmet. Yes, I personally am in favour of helmet laws and see no problem with the police taking action over it. I know our local coppers here in our little township usually just confiscate the bikes for a couple of weeks if they catch kids riding without helmets. All the parents i know support them in this choice of punishment.
Apparently though, about half of all the people who watched the news story on it tonight didn't think the police should have done anything. They thought he should just have been warned. Even his mother was on there going on about how bad the policing was. Personally I think the mother should have been fined for allowing her child to ride a bike without a helmet, and she should have been embarrassed to show her face on telly.
What do you think?
It's not a law here, but it's smart to wear a helmet. My kids wear them. So do I.
I'm not sure it's a big enough health problem that it rises to the level that the government needs to get involved.
I think that was an excellent solution.
Had they let the kid off with a warning, he would have been back on his bike, breaking the law, in order to get home.
Regardless of whether it's a good law or not (doesn't affect me so I have no opionion) it needs to be upheld and this seems a reasonable response to me.
Some people will always be up in arms when their children are disciplined.
If her kid had been involved in an accident after being allowed to ride away unprotected she'd have been singing quite a different tune.
yeah, and had they let the kid off w a warning and he did a head plant a hour later I can imagine the shit storm that would have brewed. Great idea to let the air out of his tires.
The issue of helmet safety is a complex one, esp. for kids since I've yet to see a kid wearing a helmet properly. Usually they wear it pushed back so their foreheads are exposed. Might as well not bother in that case. The helmet is merely decorative.
This is timely for me, because Mr. Clod just happened to do a face plant into a dry stream bed on his mountain bike over the weekend. He was wearing his helmet, and still had the mother-living tar knocked out of him. Cuts and bruises all over his face, and we were thinking for awhile he might have a concussion. Who knows how bad it would have been without the helmet.
As long as we are going to pay to treat everyone who walks into an emergency room, I am in favor of laws that prevent people from stupidly hurting themselves. If healthcare went 100% libertarian, then I suppose they could get rid of the laws and I wouldn't care.
Compulsory here too. I reckon the cops dealt with it well. Agreement with everything that everyone has said so far.
But can't they make a bike helmet that doesn't look so dorky?
This is timely for me, because Mr. Clod just happened to do a face plant into a dry stream bed on his mountain bike over the weekend. He was wearing his helmet, and still had the mother-living tar knocked out of him. Cuts and bruises all over his face, and we were thinking for awhile he might have a concussion. Who knows how bad it would have been without the helmet.
As long as we are going to pay to treat everyone who walks into an emergency room, I am in favor of laws that prevent people from stupidly hurting themselves. If healthcare went 100% libertarian, then I suppose they could get rid of the laws and I wouldn't care.
and now you've got cholera!
yeah, and had they let the kid off w a warning and he did a head plant a hour later . . .
I knew, slightly, a perfectly nice guy who died that way. Name of Millard Drushal, died in a bike/car collision in Monterey, California. '77 or '78. Concrete curb on Franklin Street wins out over skull. A lid might have allowed him to get off with a concussion.
But can't they make a bike helmet that doesn't look so dorky?
I don't see "dorky" with bike helmets. What would your idea of a nondorky helmet look like?
Of course you don't. :lol:
Aaand.....? C'mon, creative thought here. Don't be that guy.
Most of the kids I see wearing helmets on their bikes these days are wearing the skateboarder style. Somewhat less dorky, anyway.
Yeah, those are better. :yesnod:
Although I've occasionally wondered if they're less effective, being so much thinner...? Of course even Army helmets don't seem as thick as those styrofoam behemoths that passed for bike helmets when I was a kid.
Better living through chemistry. :3eye:
ha.
better living through crumple zones.
Most of the kids I see wearing helmets on their bikes these days are wearing the skateboarder style. Somewhat less dorky, anyway.
I've seen some helmets which kids have obviously chosen for themselves (Hogan's Heroes type look) which I wouldn't be seen dead in. What I question the wisdom of is middle aged guys in white bicycle knicks (really, anyone in white knicks).
Bike shorts.
My boys have the skater helmets, but then, they also have skateboards, so that'd be why.
Interestingly enough though, there's no helmet laws for skateboards at skate parks, but you can't ride a skateboard on the road without a helmet. It's my understanding that you can ride a scooter on the road without a helmet though.
As a parent I think kids should wear helmets on all three things, in particular when they're in a skate park. Have you seen some of the crazy stunts they try to do there???
But can't they make a bike helmet that doesn't look so dorky?
What about one for the girls?
Was she wearing a bike helmet in that pic, I didn't notice.
She makes anything look good. :D
I offer up the suggestion that instead of bike helmets, everyone wear a motorcycle helmet.
Cooler looking, but hotter due to the lack of air flow. saves noggins though.
In MY day, kids didn't need no stinkin' helmets. I never wore one and never will, when bicycling anyway. Motorcycles are a different story, even though Texas doesn't require helmets there, either.
Teach kids how to fall instead, it'll help them later in life.
The younger sister of one of my brother's friends hit her head riding a bike into a Pendot pothole. She was in her parents care for almost 30 years after that. Helmets are a big deal. I went over the handlebars night riding years ago on a dirt road. I got up after a few minutes, but I did get up shattered helmet and all.
Teach kids how to fall instead, it'll help them later in life.
What, like push them down a lot?
loosen their wheels a bit....
This is timely for me, because Mr. Clod just happened to do a face plant into a dry stream bed on his mountain bike over the weekend. He was wearing his helmet, and still had the mother-living tar knocked out of him. Cuts and bruises all over his face, and we were thinking for awhile he might have a concussion. Who knows how bad it would have been without the helmet.
As long as we are going to pay to treat everyone who walks into an emergency room, I am in favor of laws that prevent people from stupidly hurting themselves. If healthcare went 100% libertarian, then I suppose they could get rid of the laws and I wouldn't care.
I am glad Mr. Clod is OK.
This is timely for me, because Mr. Clod just happened to do a face plant into a dry stream bed on his mountain bike over the weekend. He was wearing his helmet, and still had the mother-living tar knocked out of him. Cuts and bruises all over his face, and we were thinking for awhile he might have a concussion. Who knows how bad it would have been without the helmet.
As long as we are going to pay to treat everyone who walks into an emergency room, I am in favor of laws that prevent people from stupidly hurting themselves. If healthcare went 100% libertarian, then I suppose they could get rid of the laws and I wouldn't care.
Have you "freshened up" his life insurance policy lately? :eyebrow:
loosen their wheels a bit....
a stick in the spokes...
Have you "freshened up" his life insurance policy lately?
Yes, at this point we both have excellent life insurance policies, because if either one of us dies, the other one would be well and truly fucked, financially. Him even more than me, to be honest.
a stick in the spookes...
Best is to leave those already dead to be left alone. Enough scary Pendot holes already exist. We don't need any more scary things.
Yay!
It's TW's Frivolous Day again! I likey.
Should Pendot have another N? As in PennDOT?
Teach kids how to fall instead, it'll help them later in life.
Both times I've gone over the handlebars, I was on the ground before I knew it and had absolutely no recollection of flying through the air. Neither was at speed and there was no way that I would have been able to draw on "falling techniques". When helmets were first made compulsory here, I HATED them. Now, I see their value.
Yes UG - PennDOT
Then again it should probably be PADOT
When helmets were first made compulsory here, I HATED them. Now, I see their value.
Does that officially make you an old fuddy duddy? :haha:
If not already, then rapidly approaching. :)
