Sunny Side of the Street

Trilby • Nov 3, 2010 7:53 am
Ok Republicans - how long till everything is sunshine, lolly pops and rainbows?

When can we expect all those jobs back?

I assume everything is gonna be fantastic now that republicans are in charge of my state.
monster • Nov 3, 2010 8:15 am
I'm hoping for right before the weekend. I need a little extra cash.
Big Sarge • Nov 3, 2010 8:46 am
When we oust Obama and elect the Jeb Bush/Palin ticket. LOL
morethanpretty • Nov 3, 2010 8:52 am
Yeah so Palin can refudiate all those socialist policies. :rolleyes:
spudcon • Nov 3, 2010 4:29 pm
I'm still stuck with Schumer and his clone Brunhilda.
Flint • Nov 3, 2010 4:41 pm
Brianna;692453 wrote:
Ok Republicans - how long till everything is sunshine, lolly pops and rainbows?
The same amount of time it took Obama to fix everything Bush (the Devil) broke.

How long was that now? Two years later and everything is 100% perfect!

And to think, he did all that while struggling under the burden of controlling every branch of the government simultaneously...
Sundae • Nov 3, 2010 4:46 pm
A news quiz this week showed the clip of Christine O'Donnell talking about scientists crossbreeding men and monkeys and coming up with mice with human brains. We had to pause it because we were laughing so hard. Then I told Mum she was not only serious but she was actually standing for election.

The first thing Mum asked me when they were announcing results was, "Did the mouse-woman get in?"
classicman • Nov 3, 2010 6:34 pm
O’Donnell received 40% or, 123,025 votes.
That's more frightening to me. She is one knucklehead. Whats the excuse of the over 100,000 that voted for her?
Happy Monkey • Nov 3, 2010 6:44 pm
Ignorance is being strongly pushed as a virtue.
Spexxvet • Nov 3, 2010 6:49 pm
classicman;692577 wrote:
O’Donnell received 40% or, 123,025 votes.
That's more frightening to me. She is one knucklehead. Whats the excuse of the over 100,000 that voted for her?


They're conservative repubicans - they think the way they're told to think.
classicman • Nov 3, 2010 7:09 pm
Even worse was Alvin Greene - He got 356,969 votes. :eek:

ETA for Spexxie - And he's a Democrat!
Spexxvet • Nov 3, 2010 7:11 pm
classicman;692586 wrote:
Even worse was Alvin Greene - He got 356,969 votes. :eek:

ETA for Spexxie - And he's a Democrat!


But he's not a witch. [COLOR="White"]as far as you know[/COLOR]
Flint • Nov 3, 2010 8:13 pm
classicman;692577 wrote:
O’Donnell received 40% or, 123,025 votes.
That's more frightening to me. She is one knucklehead. Whats the excuse of the over 100,000 that voted for her?


Happy Monkey;692582 wrote:
Ignorance is being strongly pushed as a virtue.


Spexxvet;692584 wrote:
They're conservative repubicans - they think the way they're told to think.



I propose that there may be some other plausible explanations. Out of 100,000 people, how many do you figure were aware to some degree that she was a complete dipshit, but would rather have her dumb ass in office than even one more Democratic to vote on legislation? Surely that accounts for some of her votes.

How sad is it that some people would rather vote for a complete imbecile than risk electing a Democrat?

Of course I'm assuming that human beings by and large are capable of higher functions (such as having priorities in decision making) rather than leaning on the comfortable illusion that those who disagree with me are simple, one-dimensional caricatures.
Happy Monkey • Nov 3, 2010 8:29 pm
All of those explanations are completely compatible.
Flint • Nov 3, 2010 9:50 pm
touché

However...it gets harder to justify the arrogant dismissal of 100,000 thinking, feeling human beings as "ignorant" if one considers the unconsiderable possibility that there could exist a valid set of arguments (albeit ones that you do not necessarily have to agree with) that bear the conclusion that the current Democratic platform is not what "we" (the people*) want.

* specifically these 100,000 people, in this case (otherwise known as the ignorant, unthinking automatons)
classicman • Nov 3, 2010 10:01 pm
I agree Flint. What never ceases to amaze me is that people really go in there and just pull the red or blue lever without regard for what they are actually doing.
People who just vote the "color" account for most of them, I am assuming.
Flint • Nov 3, 2010 10:02 pm
Yes, but. You think, right? I think. You know people who think.

Why are these "others," these mythical ignorant voters, not also capable of thought?
Pico and ME • Nov 3, 2010 10:33 pm
In this case, my hunch is that they used their religiosity as their guide for this vote.
Pete Zicato • Nov 3, 2010 11:10 pm
Spexxvet;692584 wrote:
They're conservative repubicans - they think the way they're told to think.

Which is to say that the Republicans have an excellent organization and they are very good at getting their talking points out.

The Dems need to do as well or they're never going to get anything done.
classicman • Nov 3, 2010 11:48 pm
I was reading somewhere (can't find article now) that a majority of people voted based upon, after party, name recognition. "Ohh yeh I know that name" = vote. WTF?
spudcon • Nov 4, 2010 12:26 am
Maybe voters in Delaware that voted for her knew her opponent was a bigger risk. If I could trade her for Chucky Schumer or Andrew Cuomo, I would.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 4, 2010 12:59 am
I doubt it, I think they are part of the large segment of the population that don't have a clue what either candidate's qualifications or positions are. They seize on something they're comfortable with, be it party, religion, color, smile, a sound byte, slogan or whatever, and go with it. I know there were periods in my life, when I was real busy, I did that too.

Karl Rove figured out the majority of the voters are too fat & happy to be bothered to delve into it, and will respond to snappy slogans, heard often enough.
Trilby • Nov 4, 2010 5:08 am
xoxoxoBruce;692650 wrote:
Karl Rove figured out the majority of the voters are too fat & happy to be bothered to delve into it, and will respond to snappy slogans, heard often enough.


Bread and circuses.

A lot of people vote the social issue - abortion, gayness, onanism...witch craftery...what have you.
Flint • Nov 4, 2010 8:27 am
Yes, but.
Trilby • Nov 4, 2010 8:29 am
Flint;692666 wrote:
Yes, but.


Butt what? Spit it out man!

on second thought - don't. You're a goober.
Flint • Nov 4, 2010 9:28 am
Goober like a fox.
Spexxvet • Nov 4, 2010 9:30 am
Flint;692604 wrote:
touché

However...it gets harder to justify the arrogant dismissal of 100,000 thinking, feeling human beings as "ignorant" if one considers the unconsiderable possibility that there could exist a valid set of arguments (albeit ones that you do not necessarily have to agree with) that bear the conclusion that the current Democratic platform is not what "we" (the people*) want.

* specifically these 100,000 people, in this case (otherwise known as the ignorant, unthinking automatons)


Do you believe that there is a valid set of arguments for an intelligent, thinking human being to determine that a woman who has said:

''You know what, evolution is a myth. Why aren't monkeys still evolving into humans?''
—Christine O'Donnell, during a 1998 appearance on Bill Maher's ''Politically Incorrect''

''What's next? Orgy rooms? Menage a trois rooms? ... [Coedness] is like a radical agenda forced on college students.''
—Christine O'Donnell, in a 2003 Washington Times article about the scourge of coedization in colleges

''Oh gosh. Give me a specific one ... I'm very sorry right off the top of my head, I know that there are a lot but, uh, I'll put it up on my website I promise you.''
—Delaware GOP Senate candidate Christine O'Donnell, unable to name a Supreme Court case she disagrees with during her debate with her opponent, Democrat Chris Coons, Oct. 13, 2010

''What I believe is irrelevant.''
—Christine O'Donnell, after being asked during a debate if she believes evolution is a ''myth,'' Oct. 13, 2010

''It is not enough to be abstinent with other people, you also have to be abstinent alone. The Bible says that lust in your heart is committing adultery. You can't masturbate without lust!''
—Christine O'Donnell, advocating against masturbation in a 1996 appearance on MTV's 'Sex In The 90s' TV show

''America is now a socialist economy. The definition of a socialist economy is when 50% or more your economy is dependent on the federal government.''
—Delaware GOP Senate nominee and Tea Party favorite Christine O'Donnell

''[H]omosexuals [are] getting away with nudity! They're getting away with lasciviousness! They're getting away with perversion!''
—Christine O'Donnell, on the horrors of New York's gay pride parade, Fox News interview, 2000

''American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains.''
—Christine O'Donnell, discussing cloning with Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 2007


will govern well?

Pete Zicato;692622 wrote:
Which is to say that the Republicans have an excellent organization and they are very good at getting their talking points out.

The Dems need to do as well or they're never going to get anything done.

I absolutely agree. The repubicans are better disciplined.

spudcon;692646 wrote:
Maybe voters in Delaware that voted for her knew her opponent was a bigger risk. If I could trade her for Chucky Schumer or Andrew Cuomo, I would.

You must be a white christian heterosexual who doesn't masturbate and believes there are mice out there with fully functioning human brains. I think one of these guys is available
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spudcon • Nov 4, 2010 1:34 pm
I am a white Christian heterosexual who doesn't believe in junk science like global warming, Darwinism, Socialism, or that Obama care won't have rationing.
Sundae • Nov 4, 2010 1:46 pm
We had a party in the UK called The Monster Raving Looney Party, lead by Screaming Lord Sutch. He often managed to retain his deposit (5% of the vote at the time).

He was seen as a showman, standing purely for shits and giggles.
Voting for him was no different than spoiling your ballot paper.
And he never said anything as near as crazy as O'Donnell.

Did they really have no alternative?
Honestly, I am pretty anti-Conservative. But I'd rather vote for David "double my salary via expenses" Lidington than someone like her. Are there no independents?
Flint • Nov 4, 2010 1:48 pm
Spexxvet;692672 wrote:
blah blah blah
FYI: I didn't read your post, since you obviously didn't read mine.
Gravdigr • Nov 4, 2010 4:51 pm
Spexxvet;692672 wrote:
You must be a white christian heterosexual who doesn't masturbate and believes there are mice out there with fully functioning human brains.]


If there were mice out there with fully-functioning human brains, they would masturbate.:jagoff:
Happy Monkey • Nov 4, 2010 6:55 pm
Flint;692604 wrote:
touché

However...it gets harder to justify the arrogant dismissal of 100,000 thinking, feeling human beings as "ignorant" ...

You do not appear to be taking into account the primaries.
spudcon • Nov 4, 2010 9:30 pm
Gravdigr;692770 wrote:
If there were mice out there with fully-functioning human brains, they would masturbate.:jagoff:

I would guess that there are mice out there that masturbate without the human brain to help them. They manage to survive as owl food just fine.
Flint • Nov 4, 2010 9:51 pm
Happy Monkey;692790 wrote:
You do not appear to be taking into account the primaries.
I didn't forget, I was just hoping you wouldn't notice. You're like a whack-a-mole.
Trilby • Nov 5, 2010 7:47 am
spudcon;692810 wrote:
I would guess that there are mice out there that masturbate without the human brain to help them. They manage to survive as owl food just fine.


so... the mice who don't masturbate live long and prosper?
morethanpretty • Nov 5, 2010 8:06 am
spudcon;692810 wrote:
I would guess that there are mice out there that masturbate without the human brain to help them. They manage to survive as owl food just fine.


Do you mean reproduce? If so, masturbating would not be helping them...
Spexxvet • Nov 5, 2010 8:39 am
Flint;692723 wrote:
FYI: I didn't read your post, since you obviously didn't read mine.


Fuck you.
morethanpretty • Nov 5, 2010 9:25 am
Spexxvet;692849 wrote:
Fuck you.


I think there was just a misunderstanding between you two. Please don't fight. :sniff:
spudcon • Nov 5, 2010 9:32 am
What I meant was, it doesn't matter whether a mouse masturbates, or has a human brain, his function is to be close to the bottom of the food chain.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 5, 2010 10:30 am
His function? Not if he was smart enough to develop the right defenses.
morethanpretty • Nov 5, 2010 10:49 am
Who the fuck are you to tell a mouse what his/her function is?

They have lots of functions, and are very important. Their importance is actually increased due to their position in the food chain. You have not even the slightest grasp on ecology.
classicman • Nov 5, 2010 11:37 am
BUT, Are they as important as the Horseshoe crab?

:stickpoke
morethanpretty • Nov 5, 2010 11:39 am
Hmm, good question classic. They are in different ecosystems though, so it would be hard to do an exact side to side comparison.
classicman • Nov 5, 2010 11:39 am
Spexxvet;692587 wrote:
But he's not a witch.


He isn't smart enough.:neutral:
Spexxvet • Nov 5, 2010 11:46 am
classicman;692882 wrote:
BUT, Are they as important as the Horseshoe crab?

:stickpoke

No way.

The horseshoe crab plays a vital, if little-known, role in the life of anyone who has received an injectable medication. An extract of the horseshoe crab's blood is used by the pharmaceutical and medical device industries to ensure that their products, e.g., intravenous drugs, vaccines, and medical devices, are free of bacterial contamination. No other test works as easily or reliably for this purpose. Read below for more detail.


classicman;692885 wrote:
He isn't smart enough.:neutral:

Nope, just another dumb black guy.:right:
morethanpretty • Nov 5, 2010 11:59 am
Well spexxie, if we're gonna talk medicinal use...mice are used in tons of medical testing and experiments. Too many to try to list.

Oh and they're also used to crossbreed with humans.
Spexxvet • Nov 5, 2010 12:03 pm
morethanpretty;692888 wrote:
Well spexxie, if we're gonna talk medicinal use...mice are used in tons of medical testing and experiments. Too many to try to list.

Oh and they're also used to crossbreed with humans.


Maybe O'Donnell is right... that would explain Mickey and Minnie:D
HungLikeJesus • Nov 5, 2010 12:26 pm
morethanpretty;692888 wrote:
...

Oh and they're also used to crossbreed with humans.


I thought that was an urban myth.

And wasn't it a gerbil?
morethanpretty • Nov 5, 2010 12:28 pm
They want you to believe its a myth.
It is probably both gerbils and mice. Why only test 1 rodent? How do you think we got squirel nutkin?
classicman • Nov 5, 2010 12:33 pm
I know the importance of the Horseshoe crab.. What was posted above is just one item.

MTP just got me to thinking about mice - are they really all that important in the cycle? Aside from the fact that we basically use them for testing?

Of course I'm asking about the normal ones - not the ones with human brains.
Gravdigr • Nov 5, 2010 2:31 pm
We're talking about a mouse rubbing one out people. Let's not get too serious over masturbatory rodentia.

Geez.




ETA: Oh, wait...
Sundae • Nov 5, 2010 2:42 pm
Burns knew.

The best-laid schemes o' mice an' men
Gang aft agley

You're not telling me that wasn't a mouse with a human brain settling down for a night in front of the dvd, finger on pause, couple of kernels of corn, mouse-cock in hand, when in comes the rude plough to ruin the atmosphere?
classicman • Nov 5, 2010 3:11 pm
I think it was Labrat that ruined it for the poor mousey...
classicman • Nov 5, 2010 4:02 pm
This part of a quote on Dailykos really surprised me.

Some of you actually thought that if we just stayed silent, little pesky details of how poorly the Democrats governed might evade the notice of a very angry electorate, who voted for change they could touch and would impact their lives. Instead, we received instead a bunch of possible way down the road IOUs, while Wall Street happily devoured taxpayer money with few or no strings attached.

So not wishing to poke my fist into a hornets nest, despite knowing the lunacy of such pedestrian thinking, I stayed largely silent.

But no longer.

I hope we can also agree that that dopey strategy doesn't win elections. Plenty went wrong, let's agree that, the next Democrats we begin electing will be true Democrats, not the triple and quadruple talking milquetoasters who got their walking papers last night.

I'll leave you with the enormity of the tragedy.

The other day, I read a rather horrifying article in the New York Times about the likely impact of the quantitative easing the Fed has planned for later today. Long story short, many economists don't think it's going to help very much, and it will do little or nothing to help most beleaguered Americans.

From here:

Wow.
Pico and ME • Nov 5, 2010 5:15 pm
Wow what Classic.
Happy Monkey • Nov 5, 2010 5:39 pm
There's nothing surprising about that post.
BigV • Nov 5, 2010 6:01 pm
the "wow" is that the dailykos published something unpositive about democrats.
Happy Monkey • Nov 5, 2010 8:34 pm
That happens all the time.
Flint • Nov 8, 2010 11:44 am
Spexxvet;692849 wrote:
Fuck you.
Sounds like you're askin' for a head stomping. lol

I, for one, welcome our new head-stomping overlords.
Urbane Guerrilla • Nov 9, 2010 5:22 pm
Happy Monkey;692582 wrote:
Ignorance is being strongly pushed as a virtue.


Nowhere around here. And by no one.