I feel like I've been eaten by a coyote and shit off a cliff

squirell nutkin • Aug 21, 2010 3:47 pm
Hayfever.

Claritin isn't even touching it.
Pico and ME • Aug 21, 2010 4:00 pm
Got any left over hydrocodone?
squirell nutkin • Aug 21, 2010 4:07 pm
Ooh! In fact, I do. Will that help?
Pico and ME • Aug 21, 2010 4:09 pm
I take it when I have a cold and have to work. It dulls the edges for a while. I only take half of a 5mg tablet though.
squirell nutkin • Aug 21, 2010 4:15 pm
I'll have to see what I've got. I remember it more then dulling the edge though. I was thoroughly annealed.
Pico and ME • Aug 21, 2010 4:34 pm
A 10 mg will do that to me, somewhat. I was on 10 mg of oxycodone every 6 hours for a six month period several years ago because of a herniated disc in my neck. I might be a little immune to its affects. Half a 5 mg doesn't mess me up at all, but it does alleviate a lot of discomfort, like that aches and pains associated with a head cold.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 21, 2010 11:46 pm
I hate to cut up those 40mg-ers. ;)
Gravdigr • Aug 22, 2010 1:22 am
Dude I feel for ya. I used to get hammered every fall. Then about ten years ago, after a couple pretty bad seasons, it tapered off to the point where I can usually suffer through my fall allergies pretty well, with no medication outside of a few really bad days. I used to take an OTC anti-histamine called chlorosomething maleate, I'll see if I can find out what it was...
limey • Aug 22, 2010 4:53 am
For the second time in as many months a common cold has turned into a yucky sinus infection. I suppose I'm lucky - it doesn't hurt, but Boy! am I fed up with blowing my nose ... :yelsick:
Griff • Aug 22, 2010 9:27 am
I'm rinsing the sinus daily hoping to get through.
squirell nutkin • Aug 22, 2010 10:08 am
Yeah, I've got the neti pot going, but it doesn't help very much.
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jinx • Aug 22, 2010 10:10 am
Maybe a little bleach in the water?
squirell nutkin • Aug 22, 2010 10:13 am
I would actually try that. Maybe start out with 1/8 tsp per gallon of water.
Clodfobble • Aug 22, 2010 3:01 pm
No no, not bleach, Grapefruit Seed Extract.
squirell nutkin • Aug 22, 2010 6:20 pm
Clodfobble;678097 wrote:
No no, not bleach, Grapefruit Seed Extract.


If you are naive enough to believe wikipedia, the jury is still out on grapefruit seed extract:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit_seed_extract
jinx • Aug 22, 2010 6:58 pm
I think for a while there, people were really pushing the GSE and it grew in popularity as an alternative to Goldenseal, which was being over harvested and is now endangered (or was at least).

Stick with the bleach... ;)
Clodfobble • Aug 22, 2010 7:15 pm
:lol: And what does Wikipedia say about putting diluted bleach up your nose?

Most of the refuting studies are different versions of "it only works because" [of additional antimicrobial substances included in the commercially-available mixtures] which still can, of course, be shortened to "it works."
squirell nutkin • Aug 22, 2010 7:41 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach#Antimicrobial_efficacy

Antimicrobial efficacy

The broad-spectrum effectiveness of bleach, particularly sodium hypochlorite, owes to the nature of its chemical reactivity with microbes. Rather than acting in an inhibitory or toxic fashion in the manner of antibiotics, bleach quickly reacts with microbial cells to irreversibly denature and destroy many pathogens. Bleach, particularly sodium hypochlorite has been shown to react with a microbe's heat shock proteins, stimulating their role as intra-cellular chaperone and causing the bacteria to form into clumps (much like an egg that has been boiled) that will eventually die off. In some cases, bleach's base acidity compromises a bacterium's lipid membrane, a reaction similar to popping a balloon. The range of micro-organisms effectively killed by bleach (particularly sodium hypochlorite) is extensive, making it an extremely versatile disinfectant.

In response to infection, the human immune system will produce a strong oxidizer, hypochlorous acid, to kill bacterial invaders.


We typically use 1/2t per gallon to clean fruits and veggies. 10 min. soak in bleach water followed by 10 min soak in plain water. Got this from Paul Pitchford's book (wherein he also touts GFE)

In addition to destroying microbes, the bleach also oxidizes pesticide residues.
Clodfobble • Aug 22, 2010 7:49 pm
Oh sure, I use a 10% bleach solution to clean my cutting board. It's not gonna kill you. I was just thinking maybe your nasal membranes might be a little more sensitive and you'd end up with a wicked burn, but I could be paranoid owing to the fact that my nose bleeds if you so much as sneeze at it (nyuck nyuck nyuck...) I had never heard about the pesticide residue thing though, that's good to know.
spudcon • Aug 22, 2010 8:14 pm
Chlorine is poison, and applying it to mucous membranes has got to be disastrous.
squirell nutkin • Aug 22, 2010 8:48 pm
Unless my math is really wacky (high probability) 1/2t per gallon works out to a .13% solution, a lot more mellow than cutting board cleaning. Still, I'm only thinking about it...
Aliantha • Aug 22, 2010 9:03 pm
I use bleach to clean my toilet. I can't imagine snorting it even if it is diluted. I have never heard of using it to clean fruit or veges with either.

Man you yankees do some weird stuff. :eyebrow:
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 22, 2010 9:08 pm
squirell nutkin;678139 wrote:
Unless my math is really wacky (high probability) 1/2t per gallon works out to a .13% solution,...
And then dilute with 1400 cubic feet of air.
kerosene • Aug 23, 2010 4:02 pm
I breathe heavy bleach almost daily. I probably should stop doing that. Of course, that would mean people's toilets and showers wouldn't be quite so sparkly.
Undertoad • Aug 23, 2010 5:04 pm
spudcon;678131 wrote:
Chlorine is poison, and applying it to mucous membranes has got to be disastrous.


Luckily the chlorine is in the form of an ion bonded to other ions in the form of a molecule.
monster • Aug 31, 2010 12:28 pm
McDonalds bleach-wash their lettuce, don't they?
jinx • Aug 31, 2010 12:31 pm
I think they just wipe it off with an ammonia patty.
BrianR • Sep 2, 2010 11:05 am
Oh, just take a vacation to lovely Wyoming fer Chrissake!

It was 40 deg in Evanston last week and I went through a little freezing rain out Fort Bridger way too. I expect snow on top of the mountains this trip.


The plants are already going dormant for the winter and I have almost NO symptoms of hay fever up there. Just remember to come home by Halloween.