Fanning Flames

classicman • Jun 21, 2010 2:03 pm
http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=22991

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Spexxvet • Jun 21, 2010 2:05 pm
classicman;665012 wrote:
http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=22991

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I've done that! It's easier than using bellows.
TheMercenary • Jun 21, 2010 2:20 pm
Not a bad idea classic.
Flint • Jun 21, 2010 2:38 pm
I've got a hair dryer that is a permanent part of my grill tools. I like those coals to be WHITE HOT. Got this idea from my Dad.
TheMercenary • Jun 21, 2010 2:42 pm
I have been using the belows from a military field anestheisa machine. That looks much easier. I like it.
classicman • Jun 21, 2010 2:46 pm
lol - My brother taught me that trick.

When we were kids our goal was to start a fire with one match (if that)
We were taught how to get the proper types/sizes of kindling and how to set them up.

The hair dryer trick made all that virtually necessary.
TheMercenary • Jun 21, 2010 2:50 pm
If you ever need a good go to souce for a fire in the field we would take an empty camera case and a jar of petrojelly. Heat the jelly outside in a pan and put cotton in the case, pour the liquid jelly onto the cotton in the case and just keep adding cotton unti it is full. You would be surprised how much cotton you can get into a camera case. Let it dry and when you want to make a fire with one match pull out a little pull of the cotton from the case and it will start a fire with damp but generally dry wood. I have made a fire with wood that was frozen as well. That will get you close to a one match fire.
classicman • Jun 21, 2010 3:39 pm
film case you mean? ;)

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Anything like that was considered cheating.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 21, 2010 3:41 pm
Camera case? Wouldn't any can, or tupperware, do?
classicman • Jun 21, 2010 4:29 pm
yeh, but the film cases are much more convenient, reusable, waterproof and fit in your pocket without much trouble.
TheMercenary • Jun 21, 2010 4:31 pm
classicman;665081 wrote:
film case you mean? ;)

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Anything like that was considered cheating.
Yep.

And you can put about 1/3 to 1/2 a bag of cotton into that with the melted jelly.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 21, 2010 4:32 pm
Oh, FILM canisters. nevermind
TheMercenary • Jun 21, 2010 4:33 pm
xoxoxoBruce;665082 wrote:
Camera case? Wouldn't any can, or tupperware, do?


I misspoke. I did mean a film case. You can get alot of fuel into that thing if you do it they way I stated. I have no idea why I said camera case. It needs to be light enough to carry.
Gravdigr • Jun 21, 2010 5:56 pm
Easy fire starter: I keep little squares of folded up duct tape in my out of doors supplies. Light, takes up almost no room, and burns like there's no tomorrow.
Pie • Jun 21, 2010 6:05 pm
We've had great success with dryer lint.
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TheMercenary • Jun 21, 2010 6:07 pm
Gravdigr;665144 wrote:
Easy fire starter: I keep little squares of folded up duct tape in my out of doors supplies. Light, takes up almost no room, and burns like there's no tomorrow.


I will have to experiment with that idea. Thanks.
lumberjim • Jun 21, 2010 6:10 pm
TheMercenary;665055 wrote:
If you ever need a good go to souce for a fire in the field we would take an empty camera case and a jar of petrojelly. Heat the jelly outside in a pan and put cotton in the case, pour the liquid jelly onto the cotton in the case and just keep adding cotton unti it is full. You would be surprised how much cotton you can get into a camera case. Let it dry and when you want to make a fire with one match pull out a little pull of the cotton from the case and it will start a fire with damp but generally dry wood. I have made a fire with wood that was frozen as well. That will get you close to a one match fire.



cool idea.

we had a tube of fire starter. It was like a toothpaste tube full of napalm. with that and a pencil torch, you can burn ice cream.

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lumberjim • Jun 21, 2010 6:12 pm
Also, we used a tent pole to blow air through for the bellows effect.
TheMercenary • Jun 21, 2010 6:13 pm
Interesting. I have never seen anything like that. The way I was trained we had to have something that would last at least 2 weeks if you needed to get up and move with no support. The little film case worked well. I would like to know more about that thing. We also carried Mg++ fire starters as a back up to matches, which easily light the cotton bits.
lumberjim • Jun 21, 2010 6:23 pm
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this stuff
jinx • Jun 21, 2010 7:32 pm
Wax works just as well.
HungLikeJesus • Jun 21, 2010 7:49 pm
If you could make it work with ear wax and belly-button lint you wouldn't need to carry anything.
TheMercenary • Jun 21, 2010 7:51 pm
Hmmmm. It would have to be quite the production. I can't say I have known wax to be flamable.
spudcon • Jun 21, 2010 7:51 pm
Compact belly button lint for kindling.:3eye:
jinx • Jun 21, 2010 7:58 pm
TheMercenary;665203 wrote:
Hmmmm. It would have to be quite the production. I can't say I have known wax to be flamable.


Orly, ever seen a candle?
TheMercenary • Jun 21, 2010 8:00 pm
jinx;665206 wrote:
Orly, ever seen a candle?


Yea, but I mean that the flame on the wick burns pretty slowly because of the wax. But I can't say I have actually seen wax catch on fire by itself.
classicman • Jun 21, 2010 8:02 pm
I thought wax had a pretty high burning point?
HungLikeJesus • Jun 21, 2010 8:02 pm
Technically, TheMercenary is right - wax is not flammable.
jinx • Jun 21, 2010 8:04 pm
TheMercenary;665207 wrote:
Yea, but I mean that the flame on the wick burns pretty slowly because of the wax. But I can't say I have actually seen wax catch on fire by itself.


Well, I've never tried to burn a pile of wax on its own - but if you pour wax on your camp fire wood, it lights right up. Cheaper and more likely to have on hand than the stuff you buy in camping supply.
jinx • Jun 21, 2010 8:06 pm
[YOUTUBE]PKbPKo2Xv-s[/YOUTUBE]
TheMercenary • Jun 21, 2010 8:09 pm
Cool Vid!

Note to self: don't try that on next camp out.
jinx • Jun 21, 2010 8:13 pm
Just pour a little out from your bug candle and you can see everyone peeing on the woods for miles around... instant daylight.
lumberjim • Jun 21, 2010 8:46 pm
jinx;665218 wrote:
and you can see everyone peeing on the woods for miles around... instant daylight.



it's funny EVERY time
TheMercenary • Jun 21, 2010 8:50 pm
Ok, who got caught, you or Jinx? :)
jinx • Jun 21, 2010 8:53 pm
It's a bad habit of mine to do it to others. Really I just like playing with the fire... and dont like piss near my tent.
Elspode • Jun 22, 2010 7:49 pm
Bunch of freaking amateurs, the lot of you. Liquid oxygen is the king of bbq lighting. I especially like when they do the little $5 grille, and the whole grille is consumed.

[youtube]sab2Ltm1WcM[/youtube]
Happy Monkey • Jun 22, 2010 7:51 pm
HungLikeJesus;665202 wrote:
If you could make it work with ear wax and belly-button lint you wouldn't need to carry anything.
Mythbusters was unable to get an earwax candle to work.
lumberjim • Jun 22, 2010 8:59 pm
it's not really wax is it?
TheMercenary • Jun 22, 2010 9:00 pm
No. It is not.
jinx • Jun 22, 2010 9:25 pm
I've heard that ear wax consistency/color/texture varies by race.
HungLikeJesus • Jun 22, 2010 9:45 pm
You left out taste.
jinx • Jun 22, 2010 9:48 pm
Ewwwwwwwwww!
Clodfobble • Jun 23, 2010 12:23 am
OMG that was the most digusting Mythbusters ever. I kept gagging (while Mr. Clod kept laughing at me.)
toranokaze • Jun 23, 2010 1:30 am
Fans and blow-dryers are stander for the grill, but for the fireplace we have a bellows.

And a chunk of a starter log is always helpful.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 24, 2010 2:14 am
Waxed paper milk cartons used to work great, but they're all probably plastic coated now.