What's perplexing you today?

glatt • Apr 20, 2010 1:18 pm
Brendan Fraser. Why does this man have 51 acting credits in the IMDB?

Has he ever made a good movie? Is there such a thing as a Brendan Fraser fan? I don't begrudge him his success, but wtf? How does he do it? He keeps showing up in new crappy movies.
Trilby • Apr 20, 2010 1:34 pm
I'm perplexed about the cost of sofas - why does a sofa cost 900.00 dollars?

And, should I get it?

PS I liked him in BeDazzled.
With Liz Hurley. Cute movie.
Shawnee123 • Apr 20, 2010 1:48 pm
I'm perplexed, what the fuck is 900 dollars?

As to Fraser, I guess for the same reason Kate Hudson keeps getting roles, which is to say they're sorta cute and appeal to a wide range of people who don't like movies that make them think too much.
Undertoad • Apr 20, 2010 2:18 pm
I liked Airheads.
Shawnee123 • Apr 20, 2010 2:26 pm
Oh heck, I liked Hudson in How to Lose a Guy in 10 days. I don't even like McConaughey that much ('cept for the indie film I just saw him in) but even the simple films can have a certain charm.

I'm just a big grumpy buffoon. :(
glatt • Apr 20, 2010 2:29 pm
Bedazzled is a simile of his career. I think he may have sold his soul to the devil to get where he is today.

I'll admit, my memory of Airheads was that it was fine. But it's poorly rated in IMDB, and I honestly only remember a few gags, and none of them had much to do with Mr. Fraser. I was laughing at everyone else.
Undertoad • Apr 20, 2010 2:42 pm
It's one of those comedies which you fault for not being realistic enough when you see it in the theater, but then on TV replays it gets better.
Clodfobble • Apr 20, 2010 2:43 pm
As a kid, I loved Encino Man and must have watched it a dozen times.

What it boils down to is, he's an inexpensive kids' movie actor, mostly for tweens. But movies for tweens (like The Mummy, for example) have to completely look like they're meant for adults, or tweens won't be interested. Sometimes the adults get fooled. :)
glatt • Apr 20, 2010 3:09 pm
Brianna;650290 wrote:
why does a sofa cost 900.00 dollars?

Because they can get away with it. People expect a sofa to cost that much.

Do you have an old sofa you liked when it was new? Have you considered re-upholstering it? Chances are you can get that done for about two thirds the cost and it will be made better, assuming the guys doing it know what they are doing. It's more work for you though, and you will be without your sofa for a month or two while they work on it.
Trilby • Apr 20, 2010 5:21 pm
I have never, ever owned a brand new sofa. This one would be my first.

All my other life-sofa's were hand me downs - sometimes several times over. This last couch I bought from a woman who moved to OH from AZ and the couch has a definite AZ vibe - not my colors or pattern at ALL - is a weird zig-zaggy pattern of navy, gold, red...maybe it looked good on the mesa, but not here on the prairie.

Anyway - I guess like mattresses - sofas cost what they cost. sheesh. UNREAL.

BTW - I'm gonna get it. *don't guilt me, man*
Cloud • Apr 20, 2010 5:33 pm
I can think of lots less appealing actors than Fraser, and there's nothing wrong with steady work, especially for an actor.

The Mummy movies and Journey to the Center of the Earth are solid entertainment. Blast from the Past was absolutely brilliant and funny.

I hate movies that make me think! Give me mindless action romps every time.
Shawnee123 • Apr 20, 2010 7:21 pm
Brianna;650395 wrote:
I have never, ever owned a brand new sofa. This one would be my first.

All my other life-sofa's were hand me downs - sometimes several times over. This last couch I bought from a woman who moved to OH from AZ and the couch has a definite AZ vibe - not my colors or pattern at ALL - is a weird zig-zaggy pattern of navy, gold, red...maybe it looked good on the mesa, but not here on the prairie.

Anyway - I guess like mattresses - sofas cost what they cost. sheesh. UNREAL.

BTW - I'm gonna get it. *don't guilt me, man*


Get it and enjoy it! Never mind me...I'm quite bitter today with myself.

You know, I've never had a new couch either! :lol: Years ago my ex asked me if I wanted a new couch or a computer (when they were really just catching on with us non-technical people) and the rest is history. :p:
jinx • Apr 20, 2010 7:42 pm
Is it leather Bri? Pay more for leather, it's worth it.
HungLikeJesus • Apr 20, 2010 10:06 pm
Brianna;650290 wrote:
I'm perplexed about the cost of sofas - why does a sofa cost 900.00 dollars?


Compared to prescription glasses, or even sunglasses, sofas are cheap - for what you get.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 21, 2010 1:07 am
The guy selling the sofa, bought it for 1/3 of list price.
Trilby • Apr 21, 2010 7:03 am
jinx;650436 wrote:
Is it leather Bri? Pay more for leather, it's worth it.


My ex has a leather sofa. He seems to like it - this one isn't leather but it's really big (and purty, too - looks like it belongs in a bordello!)

Why do you like leather? don't you tend to slide off? ;)
Spexxvet • Apr 21, 2010 9:30 am
HungLikeJesus;650463 wrote:
Compared to prescription glasses, or even sunglasses, sofas are cheap - for what you get.


Yeah, clear vision isn't worth much. Used glasses work just as well as used sofas do. If you don't have a sofa, you can sit on the floor, if you don't have glasses, you can drive into something you don't see or get somebody else to read things for you. [/all defensive and shit:p:]

BTW, you *can* get inexpensive brand new glasses that will give you clear vision.
Shawnee123 • Apr 21, 2010 9:34 am
Brianna;650520 wrote:
My ex has a leather sofa. He seems to like it - this one isn't leather but it's really big (and purty, too - looks like it belongs in a bordello!)

Why do you like leather? don't you tend to slide off? ;)


My bro and sis-in-law's leather couch (you say sofa I say couch, let's call the whole thing off---compromise...the DAVENPORT!) is wonderful. I thought it would be slidy but it's not.
HungLikeJesus • Apr 21, 2010 9:42 am
Spexxvet;650540 wrote:
Yeah, clear vision isn't worth much. Used glasses work just as well as used sofas do. If you don't have a sofa, you can sit on the floor, if you don't have glasses, you can drive into something you don't see or get somebody else to read things for you. [/all defensive and shit:p:]

BTW, you *can* get inexpensive brand new glasses that will give you clear vision.


They're not too expensive for what they do, but for what they are - two little pieces of plastic with some wire to attach them to your face.
Shawnee123 • Apr 21, 2010 9:44 am
I'm still buying 20 dollar reading glasses. I'm far-sighted...I can read a billboard at 10 miles...but it's the up close stuff that I need glasses for.

If I ever get back up from paying for my teeth, I would like some real glasses. Spexx, I'll be consulting you!
Spexxvet • Apr 21, 2010 9:56 am
HungLikeJesus;650546 wrote:
They're not too expensive for what they do, but for what they are - two little pieces of plastic with some wire to attach them to your face.


Like saying a tire is a wad of rubber that you slip on a rim, or that Jack Daniels is just some mashed corn that's been cooked for awhile. :drunk:
Shawnee123 • Apr 21, 2010 9:58 am
heheheehee...he said "wad."
Spexxvet • Apr 21, 2010 9:59 am
Shawnee123;650548 wrote:
I'm still buying 20 dollar reading glasses. I'm far-sighted...I can read a billboard at 10 miles...but it's the up close stuff that I need glasses for.

If I ever get back up from paying for my teeth, I would like some real glasses. Spexx, I'll be consulting you!


As long as you're getting regular check-ups, and "readers" are working for you, stick with them. :thumb:
Shawnee123 • Apr 21, 2010 10:02 am
:blush:

I'm not getting regular eye exams. I had a free cursory one here at work last year and they said my magnification was right for me. In HS I had an eye exam and the doc asked me if I could read the printing on the edge of the doorknob, my far vision is so good.

With my job it would be best for me to have glasses designed for me. I think there was a mention of a slight astigmatism, some years ago, but I don't really know what that means.
glatt • Apr 21, 2010 10:32 am
HungLikeJesus;650546 wrote:
They're not too expensive for what they do, but for what they are - two little pieces of plastic with some wire to attach them to your face.


I got my glasses the last two times at eyebuydirect.com. They were around $20-$30 with shipping. They work perfectly.

There's this thing where if something doesn't cost a lot, people think it is low quality. That's not rational thinking.

I get eye exams each year, and buy my contacts from 1-800-contacts, and my glasses from the web. To buy either from an eye doctor seems to be doing it wrong. Your doctor sends you to a pharmacy to get a drug prescription. Why should it be different with glasses/contacts?
skysidhe • Apr 21, 2010 10:57 am
Shawnee123;650548 wrote:
I'm still buying 20 dollar reading glasses. I'm far-sighted...I can read a billboard at 10 miles...but it's the up close stuff that I need glasses for.

If I ever get back up from paying for my teeth, I would like some real glasses. Spexx, I'll be consulting you!


I am far sighted too. The optometrist comments on how good my far vision is. I have bought RX glasses but I see no difference between the over the counter readers and them, in fact I prefer my readers.


Oh except for that one pair of prescription glasses with the tinted and small frames. It is perplexing where I could have lost those. I replaced them with a dorky pair I use just for reading books in bed. lol I use my over the counter readers for the pc screen and everything else like recipes.
Pie • Apr 21, 2010 1:07 pm
glatt;650570 wrote:
I got my glasses the last two times at eyebuydirect.com. They were around $20-$30 with shipping. They work perfectly.

Seconding eyebuydirect.com. I now own 5 pairs of glasses so I can change them to match my mood. And I got prescription sunglasses. And a "spare" for my husband, who likes to lose his.

ETA: I think I also have a couple of 5% off coupons lying around; if anyone's interested I can go look for 'em.
Spexxvet • Apr 21, 2010 1:09 pm
I think I'm going to buy my next suit on line.
glatt • Apr 21, 2010 1:15 pm
If you have a trusted tailor measure you and then send the measurements off to the on-line suit maker, why not?
Shawnee123 • Apr 21, 2010 1:31 pm
But remember that they only measure your inseam like they do...IN PRISON!
Shawnee123 • Apr 21, 2010 1:42 pm
What perplexes me is individuals who are such individuals because they do things that make them individuals that a million other individuals do but they want to profess their individuality at every turn and want to make sure everyone knows they're such an individual like everyone else because they did something that sets them apart from all the other individuals who are being individualistic in the same way the first individual is being an individual.

If you type and say the word individual enough times it starts to look and sound funny.

Just more of my random thoughts. When they pop my head off I might not have many more, want to get a few in first.
Spexxvet • Apr 21, 2010 1:49 pm
glatt;650613 wrote:
If you have a trusted tailor measure you and then send the measurements off to the on-line suit maker, why not?


I'm curious. Do you have a trusted Optician who measures you?
glatt • Apr 21, 2010 2:17 pm
I have an optometrist who tests my eyes and gives me a prescription.

An optician to measure my haid? no. I have old glasses that fit well, and a ruler to measure those to get the same sized ones offered on the internet. I can measure the distance between my pupils myself in the mirror.
Spexxvet • Apr 21, 2010 2:27 pm
Here's the issue in my profession. When you buy glasses, some of what you pay for is the Optician's expertise. A good Optician will determine your needs and recommend the best products to meet those needs. S/He will take appropriate, accurate measurements, and when the glasses are made, s/he will ensure their accuracy. Then the Optician will custom fit the eywear to you, and will adjust your glasses if they ever come out of adjustment.

Historically, we have adjusted anyone's glasses, whether they purchased the glasses from us, or not. An Optician somewhere sold those glasses and at some point may adjust glasses that were purchased from me.

Now, people are buying their glasses on line, and we Opticians are being asked to give away our skills, expertise, and our time. If it's just fitting glasses to someone, it's not a big thing, but when we're asked for measurement, for which we can be liable, or to troubleshoot a problem with the glasses, then it becomes costly to us. The worst is when our paying customers have to wait while we try to figure out why an on line purchaser can't see out of their glasses.

For young people like you and Pie, it's not so much of an issue, especially if you don't have a strong prescription. But when you get into multifocals (and you will), you may want to consult with a licensed Optician. :idea:
glatt • Apr 21, 2010 2:35 pm
Sounds like a simple policy of "we charge to fit any glasses not sold by us" is in order.
Spexxvet • Apr 21, 2010 2:40 pm
That's a completely new paradigm, and it won't be a popular one with patients - taking something away that's always been free never is.
classicman • Apr 21, 2010 3:37 pm
How about a sign or a card or "something" that says you do it for your customers for free. <shrug>

They used to do free adjustments at a few places here, but haven't for the last few years.
Clodfobble • Apr 21, 2010 4:11 pm
Spexxvet wrote:
S/He will take appropriate, accurate measurements, and when the glasses are made, s/he will ensure their accuracy. Then the Optician will custom fit the eywear to you, and will adjust your glasses if they ever come out of adjustment.


I got my first pair of glasses at 3 years old. For the next 6 years, I wore the wrong prescription, because every single time I went in for my eye exam, I squinted as hard as I could to figure out what the letters on the chart were--because I was told it was "a test" and you're supposed to do as well as you can on tests. I had two eye doctors during this time, and neither of them ever told me not to squint, to just see what I could really see. What's more, you can look at old photos of me and clearly see that the two sets of frames I wore during this time did not even come close to fitting my face.

Then I found a good eye doctor, and I have stayed with him. But still, he is not the one in charge of seeing people in the frames department, and in my adulthood that person sold me yet another pair of ill-fitting glasses after a 10-year stint of contacts followed by LASIK. It wasn't until I made my husband (who has always chosen well-fitting glasses) come in with me to get a new pair that he informed both of us the reason none of the frames fit me is because my face bones are small and I need to be shopping in the kids' frame section. The woman was a little shocked at the idea, but he was totally right.

All of which is to say, good opticians certainly do the things you list above. But good opticians may be rarer than you think.
Pie • Apr 21, 2010 4:22 pm
Spexxvet;650641 wrote:
Here's the issue in my profession. When you buy glasses, some of what you pay for is the Optician's expertise. A good Optician will determine your needs and recommend the best products to meet those needs. S/He will take appropriate, accurate measurements, and when the glasses are made, s/he will ensure their accuracy. Then the Optician will custom fit the eywear to you, and will adjust your glasses if they ever come out of adjustment.

Historically, we have adjusted anyone's glasses, whether they purchased the glasses from us, or not. An Optician somewhere sold those glasses and at some point may adjust glasses that were purchased from me.

Now, people are buying their glasses on line, and we Opticians are being asked to give away our skills, expertise, and our time. If it's just fitting glasses to someone, it's not a big thing, but when we're asked for measurement, for which we can be liable, or to troubleshoot a problem with the glasses, then it becomes costly to us. The worst is when our paying customers have to wait while we try to figure out why an on line purchaser can't see out of their glasses.

For young people like you and Pie, it's not so much of an issue, especially if you don't have a strong prescription. But when you get into multifocals (and you will), you may want to consult with a licensed Optician. :idea:


Hey, I pay an optometrist $60 every year to give me a full eye exam. I get pics of my retinas and everything, since I'm typeIID and work with <Dr.>frikin' lazers</Evil> every day. I refuse to pay a kajillion dollars to some frame manufacturer when I know it should cost $19.95. And I work with precision optics for a living -- we don't pay hundreds of dollars for the stuff we use, and it's a lot more high-tech than my specs. I know my prescription, my IPD, all the various lengths associated with my last specs, and verify that info with my optometrist.

<shrugs> Seems fair to me.
squirell nutkin • Apr 21, 2010 4:24 pm
Spexxvet;650641 wrote:
Here's the issue in my profession. When you buy glasses, some of what you pay for is the Optician's expertise. A good Optician will determine your needs and recommend the best products to meet those needs. S/He will take appropriate, accurate measurements, and when the glasses are made, s/he will ensure their accuracy. Then the Optician will custom fit the eywear to you, and will adjust your glasses if they ever come out of adjustment.

Historically, we have adjusted anyone's glasses, whether they purchased the glasses from us, or not. An Optician somewhere sold those glasses and at some point may adjust glasses that were purchased from me.

Now, people are buying their glasses on line, and we Opticians are being asked to give away our skills, expertise, and our time. If it's just fitting glasses to someone, it's not a big thing, but when we're asked for measurement, for which we can be liable, or to troubleshoot a problem with the glasses, then it becomes costly to us. The worst is when our paying customers have to wait while we try to figure out why an on line purchaser can't see out of their glasses.

For young people like you and Pie, it's not so much of an issue, especially if you don't have a strong prescription. But when you get into multifocals (and you will), you may want to consult with a licensed Optician. :idea:


Spexx, the party's over. I wonder why photographers didn't do the same thing that doctors did a long time ago: create a guild that prevented others from practicing without a special license. Do you know how many times I hear from people who ought to be using a professional photographer that their nephew or son or whoever is going to take the pictures for them for free? Just because you can buy a hammer, that doesn't make you a carpenter. Same goes for just about every profession and trade. Being in a consumer society we pay the price by having our expertise discounted in order for someone to be able to sell out from under us. Our national values respect consumerism more than expertise.

There was a local paper near here that was always going on an on about "shopping locally" and supporting local businesses. But what does that mean? From my point of view it means:
Don't buy a camera, if you need photos, go to your local photographer and let him make a living (not a killing)
Don't buy a computer for desktop publishing, go to a graphic designer and hire them to make your poster.
Don't run to home depot and buy and arsenal of tools, hire your local carpenter to fix your screen door.
don't buy pepperidge farm cookies or budweiser beer or produce from across the continent. Why don't you have a local bakery or brewery? because they were edged out by economy of scale.

So I say the party's over, because it is just a matter of time before your business is a self serve procedure. Pharmaceutical companies are already marketing directly to consumers.
Shawnee123 • Apr 21, 2010 4:29 pm
I can just imagine how my teeth would have looked if I could have ordered my new caps online, after making my dentist take the molds. :eek:
squirell nutkin • Apr 21, 2010 4:30 pm
Umm, I like the highlights... and your bangs are cute.
Shawnee123 • Apr 21, 2010 4:31 pm
HA! That's an uglified photo of Elle McPherson I grabbed off google images.
Clodfobble • Apr 21, 2010 4:38 pm
squirell nutkin wrote:
Don't buy a camera, if you need photos, go to your local photographer and let him make a living (not a killing)


And yet, many professionals have countered the problem by charging more and more for the few people who are still willing to pay for their expertise. A wedding photographer nowadays will cost you a couple thousand dollars for a mere 4 hours of time, and then the photos are still their property and you get one copy of each and anyone else in the family who wants one has to pay $5 per photo. Which only leads to more people deciding to let their cousin do it for free.
squirell nutkin • Apr 21, 2010 5:28 pm
All the better really. I wouldn't want the agra of shooting a wedding for 15 thousand dollars.

The pros aren't countering the problem by over charging, they are passing along their real costs, believe it or not. And a good wedding photographer is a world of difference from a bad one or even a talented cousin.

Think about your industry. Is what you do really something that anyone can do? Are your standards higher than someone else's? Why should I pay a voice over actor anything when I can get my brother to do it for nothing?

On the other hand I just heard Maya Angelou narrating an explanation of the big bang and she may be all ms. poet, but she sucks as a narrator. Absolutely no sense of rhythm, every word was another brick in the wall.
Spexxvet • Apr 21, 2010 6:01 pm
Clodfobble;650666 wrote:
...All of which is to say, good opticians certainly do the things you list above. But good opticians may be rarer than you think.


squirell nutkin;650671 wrote:
Spexx, the party's over. I wonder why photographers didn't do the same thing that doctors did a long time ago: create a guild that prevented others from practicing without a special license.....


Unfortunately, only 22 (I think) states are licensed, which is why I live in PA (non-licensed) and work in NJ (licensed).

Pie;650669 wrote:
Hey, I pay an optometrist $60 every year to give me a full eye exam. I get pics of my retinas and everything, since I'm typeIID and work with <Dr.>frikin' lazers</Evil> every day.

It's good that you get examined every year, that's the standard of care for diabetics (you should probably see an MD, though). But "eye doctors" don't know much about glasses. They know about eyes.

Pie;650669 wrote:
I refuse to pay a kajillion dollars to some frame manufacturer when I know it should cost $19.95.


Should? What's should? You're not going to get a high quality, stylish, current (not discontinued which means unlikely to be replaceable if broken), frame fitted well by a good Optician for $19.95.

Pie;650669 wrote:
And I work with precision optics for a living -- we don't pay hundreds of dollars for the stuff we use, and it's a lot more high-tech than my specs.


A replacement headlight for a 2008 Buick Lucerne is $142.00 on line. That's not high tech, either. Or installed.

Pie;650669 wrote:
I know my prescription, my IPD, all the various lengths associated with my last specs, and verify that info with my optometrist.


As I said, you're young enough that it probably is not critical, but when you need multifocals, you may feel differently. There are something like 170 different progressive addition lens models, and plenty of lined bifocal types. Additionally, just because the sizes and lengths of your last glasses suited you doesn't mean that your new ones will. You were wearing an 18 bridge? Is that a saddle, keyhole, modified saddle, fixed, adjustable, or unifit bridge? How will the difference effect how the glasses fit you? An Optician [strike]would[/strike] [strike]should[/strike] better know.
Shawnee123 • Apr 21, 2010 6:07 pm
I've heard Maya speak live, twice, and when it comes to things totally unlike the Big Bang...she is wonderful to hear speak.

You know, too, I remember my ex talking about what the band charged for events, or wedding receptions. He said no one thinks about hauling the shit around, sometimes up and down stairs, all the practice, the years learning the stuff...

Putting a high price tag on something doesn't make it quality, but for the most part, you pay more for the really good stuff...in just about anything.

On a much smaller level, I can pay a chick at Slash~n~Dash 3 bucks for a haircut (and I have!) but it's not going to be the nice cut I get for 17 bucks more...which will look a lot better and last a lot longer (good cuts always do) and so, it's worth it.

Glasses perhaps seem more disposable than your wedding pics. It depends on what is important to you. And people think "well, it's not like I'll have these glasses FOREVER." Yet good feeling and good fitting could lengthen the life of your glasses, I would think. No falling off and pushing them back on your face.
glatt • Apr 21, 2010 6:38 pm
Shawnee123;650693 wrote:
Yet good feeling and good fitting could lengthen the life of your glasses, I would think. No falling off and pushing them back on your face.


Possibly true, but will it make them last TEN times longer? Because that's how much more you are paying.
Spexxvet • Apr 21, 2010 7:04 pm
glatt;650695 wrote:
Possibly true, but will it make them last TEN times longer? Because that's how much more you are paying.


That's how much you can choose to pay. We just finished a sale where a complete pair of glasses started at $77.40, regularly $119.00. That includes my expertise, actually being able to try on frames, see how they look and fit before purchasing, measurements, ensuring the glasses were made correctly, custom fitting, guarantee to replace any broken frame or lens for a year, and future adjustments.

On the flip side, I've sold glasses that cost over $900.00 for one pair. They were really good ones.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 21, 2010 9:40 pm
Spexxvet;650692 wrote:



A replacement headlight for a 2008 Buick Lucerne is $142.00. That's not high tech, either.
Actually it's quite high tech, just not customized for you specifically.

Shawnee123;650693 wrote:
Glasses perhaps seem more disposable than your wedding pics.
Definitely not.:headshake
classicman • Apr 21, 2010 9:58 pm
Spexxvet;650692 wrote:
Additionally, just because the sizes and lengths of your last glasses suited you doesn't mean that your new ones will. You were wearing an 18 bridge? Is that a saddle, keyhole, modified saddle, fixed, adjustable, or unifit bridge? How will the difference effect how the glasses fit you? An Optician [strike]would[/strike] [strike]should[/strike] better know.


Heed this advice. Online buying is great if you know all your important info and the style of glasses are the same. Oh and hope you know what that really means.

Spexx - Don't most optometrists know all this as well? I thought an ophthalmologist was more for serious medical issues. I thought most places had an optometrist in them, well the more reputable ones anyway.
glatt • Apr 22, 2010 8:42 am
glatt;650695 wrote:
Possibly true, but will it make them last TEN times longer? Because that's how much more you are paying.


Spexxvet;650698 wrote:
That's how much you can choose to pay. We just finished a sale where a complete pair of glasses started at $77.40, regularly $119.00.


You're proving my point for me. Your cheapest glasses are normally $120 and you ran a special where you could get them for $77.40.

eyebuydirect's cheapest glasses are $7.95. That's TEN times cheaper.

I know you add value, and I'm not arguing that point with you at all. But you charge ten times more for that value. Some people are going to decide it's not worth it.
Spexxvet • Apr 22, 2010 9:26 am
classicman;650721 wrote:
Heed this advice. Online buying is great if you know all your important info and the style of glasses are the same. Oh and hope you know what that really means.

Right - buy a commodity on line. A roll of scott toilet paper is the same at the store or on line. IMHO, glasses are not a commodity. :shrug:

classicman;650721 wrote:
Spexx - Don't most optometrists know all this as well? I thought an ophthalmologist was more for serious medical issues. I thought most places had an optometrist in them, well the more reputable ones anyway.


Ophthalmologist - mainly health of eye, performs surgery, some don't even do refractions, can't be bothered with eyewear.

Optometrist - mainly vision (refractions), can manage eye disease, may fit eyewear, but their (approximately) 2 hours of classroom eyeglass learning does not prepare them well for in-depth eyeglass dispensing. They're more interested in fitting contact lenses.

Optician - Almost entirely eyewear, some states allow Opticians to refract.

Whenever a patient comes in with problems with their glasses, regardless of where they got the glasses, I always analyze the glasses first, and give the doctors my opinion of the problem.
Spexxvet • Apr 22, 2010 9:36 am
glatt;650759 wrote:
...I know you add value, and I'm not arguing that point with you at all. But you charge ten times more for that value. Some people are going to decide it's not worth it.


Of course.
Cloud • Apr 22, 2010 10:09 am
I looked into glasses online but with my astigmatism in one eye and the progressive lenses--I didn't think I could get the correct lenses for my eyes.

and that's too bad, 'cause I need a pair now. Normally they run me about $400-$500. Yes, it's a rip off.
Spexxvet • Apr 22, 2010 10:12 am
Cloud;650774 wrote:
I looked into glasses online but with my astigmatism in one eye and the progressive lenses--I didn't think I could get the correct lenses for my eyes.

and that's too bad, 'cause I need a pair now. Normally they run me about $400-$500. Yes, it's a rip off.


What do you normally choose? Frame and progressive lenses start at $219 here.

ETA
And what's wrong with lined bifocals. That'll save you prolly $50.
Cloud • Apr 22, 2010 11:16 am
I'm used to the progressives, and they look better. I also need the Transitions (light reactive)

My doctor is always like, Whoa! you have no pigment in your eyes. I can see all the way back to the back of the eye [insert medical term here for the back of the eye.] So, yeah, I need the Transitions.
Spexxvet • Apr 22, 2010 11:32 am
Cloud;650790 wrote:
I'm used to the progressives, and they look better. I also need the Transitions (light reactive)

My doctor is always like, Whoa! you have no pigment in your eyes. I can see all the way back to the back of the eye [insert medical term here for the back of the eye.] So, yeah, I need the Transitions.


Coccons Over-Rx sunglasses and Coccoon clip-ons are both less expensive than Transitions, give you better control and protection than Transitions.
Cloud • Apr 22, 2010 11:54 am
better control?

but . . . I love my transitions! Before I got them, I was constantly messing with my glasses--taking them off to drive, putting on my sunglasses. Taking them off in a store, and putting on my regular glasses. Taking my regular glasses off when I go outside, and putting on my sunglasses. You get the idea.

But I will look into the clip ons.
classicman • Apr 22, 2010 11:57 am
What about buying the frames online and having the lenses put in by an optician.
Thats what I've done. IIRC not all places carry all the lines, just like everything else.
Do you find that to be a relatively new trend, Spexx?
classicman • Apr 22, 2010 12:05 pm
Cloud;650803 wrote:
But I will look into the clip ons.


Clip-ons have come a long way! They actually come as a set in some cases and match your glasses perfectly. Some literally clip on and others use magnets. I loved mine till I lost them, but that was completely my fault. <shrug>
Spexxvet • Apr 22, 2010 12:07 pm
Cloud;650803 wrote:
better control?
...

Better control because you determine when you're wearing sunglasses and when you're not. You have absolutely no control over your Transitions lenses - they get dark when uv light hits them, and light when it doesn't. When you walk from bright daylight into a dimly lit restaurant, the lenses will take 7-10 minutes to fade. In essence, they're sunglasses for awhile when you don't want them to be sunglasses. With over-rx or clip-ons, you don't have to take off your clear Rx glasses - they both go on top of your clear glasses, and the change is immediate.

The most convenient are the magnetic clip-on sunglasses, but they're not inexpensive.

classicman;650804 wrote:
What about buying the frames online and having the lenses put in by an optician.
Thats what I've done. IIRC not all places carry all the lines, just like everything else.
Do you find that to be a relatively new trend, Spexx?


I've seen it a couple of times. It's disappointing when I have to tell someone that the frame they bought on line doesn't fit them or is incompatible with their Rx.
Cloud • Apr 22, 2010 2:13 pm
classicman;650807 wrote:
Clip-ons have come a long way! They actually come as a set in some cases and match your glasses perfectly. Some literally clip on and others use magnets. I loved mine till I lost them, but that was completely my fault. <shrug>


but I'd still be clipping them on and off constantly, if I'm running errands and stuff.

I don't have a real problem with the Transitions staying too dark when I come in.

Not arguing, just debating, since I have an imminent glasses purchase to make.

Also, do you know --- I'm not sure what coatings my present glasses have, but I noticed after a while that I've got some iridescence on them. Is that the anti-reflective coating? Does it just do that, or maybe I messed it up by washing with soap and water?
classicman • Apr 22, 2010 2:34 pm
Its not that big a deal to do/undo the clip-ons.

Personally, I will NEVER buy that anti-reflective crap EVAHHHHHHHHHH again.
Cloud • Apr 22, 2010 2:53 pm
My friend and cow order just showed me her scratched glasses -- from using clip ons
Shawnee123 • Apr 22, 2010 4:09 pm
That's another reason I don't want real glasses. I'm hell on glasses. I had a prescription pair (paid for by an old job) that had scratch resistant crap. That shit didn't resist anything.
Flint • Apr 22, 2010 4:46 pm
Magic Clips are teh sweeetness. When you paid tha cost to be tha boss you will wear these and then you will know, my droogs.
Spexxvet • Apr 22, 2010 4:59 pm
Cloud;650835 wrote:
...Also, do you know --- I'm not sure what coatings my present glasses have, but I noticed after a while that I've got some iridescence on them. Is that the anti-reflective coating? Does it just do that, or maybe I messed it up by washing with soap and water?

Yep, that's AR
classicman;650838 wrote:
...Personally, I will NEVER buy that anti-reflective crap EVAHHHHHHHHHH again.

I never go without it.
Cloud;650840 wrote:
My friend and cow order just showed me her scratched glasses -- from using clip ons

I'll bet they're the kind that clamp onto the lens. Magnetic clip-ons are held away from the lenses.
Shawnee123;650865 wrote:
That's another reason I don't want real glasses. I'm hell on glasses. I had a prescription pair (paid for by an old job) that had scratch resistant crap. That shit didn't resist anything.

I don't know what you had, but I was around before scratch resistant coatings. Now THAT was bad!
Flint;650870 wrote:
Magic Clips are teh sweeetness. When you paid tha cost to be tha boss you will wear these and then you will know, my droogs.

You're as clear as an unmuddy lake. As clear as an azure sky of deepest summer. Time for a little of the Ludwig Van.
squirell nutkin • Apr 22, 2010 6:19 pm
As a photographer I am vision obsessed. As far as I'm concerned there cannot be enough AR coatings on my glasses. I want my glassses to have the same shit that's on my lenses.
I fucking hate flare.
Flint • Apr 22, 2010 6:23 pm
squirell nutkin;650910 wrote:

I fucking hate flare.
Shawnee123 • Apr 22, 2010 6:28 pm
That's how mmhnmlmmhmnsmmn would spell it!
squirell nutkin • Apr 22, 2010 7:11 pm
@Flint
I thought you said you wanted to be part of the team.
HungLikeJesus • Apr 22, 2010 10:39 pm
Flint;650870 wrote:
Magic Clips are teh sweeetness. When you paid tha cost to be tha boss you will wear these and then you will know, my droogs.


I have a pair of Magic Clips and one of the arms recently broke off right at the frame. Otherwise the glasses are in perfect condition. I don't want to buy a whole new set of frames/lenses/sunglasses, but I haven't been able to get them fixed. I don't remember how much they cost, but I know it was a lot.
squirell nutkin • Apr 22, 2010 11:21 pm
Get the Bendium ones that don't break:
[YOUTUBE]fBEBaUD1cQ0[/YOUTUBE]
Undertoad • Apr 22, 2010 11:27 pm
Do they make these in prescription?

Image
Bruce 9012 • Apr 22, 2010 11:34 pm
Everything looks worse through rose colored glasses. says Bono.
classicman • Apr 23, 2010 10:26 am
thats why he has multiple pairs ...
Shawnee123 • Apr 23, 2010 10:30 am
Yabbut, he's a dickhead.
squirell nutkin • Apr 23, 2010 11:12 am
damn, Catholic rock stars get more ass than a toilet seat. What's up with that?
Shawnee123 • Apr 23, 2010 11:40 am
They were taught at a young age, when they were altar boys.
glatt • Apr 23, 2010 11:43 am
I read this as "They were taut at a young age, when they were alter boys."

Which is also gross.
Shawnee123 • Apr 23, 2010 11:45 am
Gross, yes...but heeelarious!
Spexxvet • Apr 23, 2010 1:12 pm
HungLikeJesus;650958 wrote:
I have a pair of Magic Clips and one of the arms recently broke off right at the frame. Otherwise the glasses are in perfect condition. I don't want to buy a whole new set of frames/lenses/sunglasses, but I haven't been able to get them fixed. I don't remember how much they cost, but I know it was a lot.

You should be able to get just the temple, although there are some vendors who sell only complete units. You should not have to buy new Rx lenses.
squirell nutkin;650978 wrote:
Get the Bendium ones that don't break:

Ain't nuttin that don't break.
Undertoad;650981 wrote:
Do they make these in prescription?

Image

Yes, here's your Rx:

Suck on 1 Bono 3x daily until completely gay.:p:
Shawnee123 • Apr 23, 2010 1:14 pm
Spexxvet;651073 wrote:
Ain't nutkin that don't break.

Yes, here's your Rx:

Suck on 1 Bono 3x daily until completely gay.:p:


Fixed part of it for you (hey, it's all the rage!)

I wouldn't suck on Bono with someone else's mouth. :o
lumberjim • May 12, 2010 12:05 pm
Why do people that work in the 'Hair Business' love puns so much?

Shear Pleasure
Shear Perfection
Hair today Gone tomorrow

all local hair cutteries.

I just loaded a deal for a stylist... his email begins with 'hairim'

I've been pulling my hair out over this. It just won't gel for me.
jinx • May 12, 2010 12:13 pm
Twisted Scissors...

Why do I get poison ivy rashes from eating mangoes, and why can't I stop?
classicman • May 12, 2010 12:43 pm
I hair what your sayin' Jim.
Clodfobble • May 12, 2010 1:37 pm
jinx wrote:
Why do I get poison ivy rashes from eating mangoes, and why can't I stop?


There's a lot of evidence that people crave the foods they're mildly allergic to, because the allergic reaction involves a release of endorphins.
xoxoxoBruce • May 12, 2010 1:42 pm
Itching is an excuse to touch yourself.;)
jinx • May 12, 2010 2:08 pm
Clodfobble;655780 wrote:
There's a lot of evidence that people crave the foods they're mildly allergic to, because the allergic reaction involves a release of endorphins.


Well that would be just like me... similar to going thru several bottles of hot sauce and hot salsa every week I imagine...
xoxoxoBruce • May 12, 2010 10:52 pm
Well hell, that's because you look Mexican. :lol2:
toranokaze • May 17, 2010 3:43 pm
Hypothesis testing
Spexxvet • May 22, 2010 8:58 am
If the economy sucks, people are defaulting on their mortgages, and employment is high, why do the Phillies sell out the ball park every game?
Griff • May 22, 2010 9:00 am
They are still issuing credit cards.
squirell nutkin • May 22, 2010 10:24 am
glatt;651055 wrote:
I read this as "They were taut at a young age, when they were alter boys."

Which is also gross.


Reminds me of the altar boys football team, start out as a tight end and become a wide receiver...

Which is also gross, too.
Spexxvet • May 22, 2010 10:27 am
Griff;657855 wrote:
They are still issuing credit cards.


Boy, that's not very reassuring.
TheDaVinciChode • May 23, 2010 5:58 am
What's been mildly perplexing me, ever since America decided to "police the world," is, well...

How can freedom, be freedom, if it's forced by an outside governing body, and the use of military power?
How can democracy be democracy, if it's forced by an outside governing body, and the use of military power?
How can diplomacy be diplomacy, if it's forced by an outside governing body, and the use of military power?

Shouldn't these be chosen by the populous, by the country itself? You believe, just because they're under the rule of an oppressive, over-bearing dictatorship, any country has the right to determine what they want, what they need, and how best to give it to them? No, sir, I do not agree, and it perplexes me, to no end, that people actually DO think it's the right course of action.

Much like charity - Now, as much as I think it's a great thing, that larger countries give (I live in England... We're about as charitable as an outside country can get!) I also believe it hinders, rather than helps, the countries wherein charity is given. The more money we throw at them, the less able they will ever be to create their own future. What right do we have, to create it for them? Why should we shape them, in our own image? (Much like we're trying to shape countries like Iraq, and Afghanistan, in our own image, because we disagree with their internal politics, as well as internal culture, despite the fact that we have no actual right, political, or societal, to do so.)

Many countries started out in similar positions to, say, certain African nations... They rose above it, they overcame the nature of their land... And because of it, they became bigger, stronger, better nations. If we keep throwing money, people, and technology, to these under-developed nations, they'll never have the chance, ability, will, or want, to rise above the nature of their land.

Countries around the world (not just America, but all busy-body countries, like my own, too, that are under the false sense of doing a good deed,) need to mind their own countries, and leave others to discover, for themselves, who they are, as a nation, as well as where they wish to stand on a global economic/industrial scale.

There are plenty of poor, destitute people, within our own countries, that are over-looked, because it's easier to look outward, than inward... and this is something that really needs to be re-considered.

I understand the desire to help, to make better the world around us... but what about the world closer to home? How can we help those beyond our borders, when those WITHIN our borders, are ignored, over-looked, and crying for help, themselves?

How can we actually help ANYONE, if they are unwilling to help themselves? (Within and beyond our own national borders.)

Why SHOULD we help countries that are not our own? That is not a selfish, or cruel stand-point... it is a true stand-point. If people, places, and cultures, are not allowed to evolve on their own terms, how will they ever survive? We throw religion at them, we throw the idea of OUR government at them, we throw the ideals of OUR societies at them... how will they evolve, as a nation, as a people, with their own identity, if this is what we do?

We throw money at them, so we feel better about our own lives... not to help them.

I find it to be a despicable tactic, to be honest. We're one step short of simply invading these countries, and enforcing our way of life on them... rather than trying to convince them of our way of life, through "charity," and "trades agreements."

Invading Iraq, Afghanistan... Charitable aid to Africa... The desired end result is the same, and the damage done, too, is the same... It's simply another name for the same process - Assimilation of a culture, to better fit how WE believe a country, or, rather, the entire world, should be.

This was not intended as a rant. Sorry about that, but it just so perplexing, to me, that the world sits by, thinking we're doing GOOD DEEDS, by invading, or throwing money at, countries that we're simply trying to bring in line with our own system of politics, beliefs, etc...
Cloud • May 23, 2010 4:38 pm
who stole the box of CDs out of my car?
Pie • May 23, 2010 5:41 pm
Chode! You're back!!
Cicero • May 23, 2010 9:37 pm
Do not buy a red couch... It may be cool in the store...but later turn into an eyesore... Definitely do not buy a 900.00 red couch! Here in SF you can't buy a decent couch for less than a 1000 unless it's used. Ugggg....
OK now show us which sofa.. :)
TheDaVinciChode • May 24, 2010 5:53 am
Pie;657995 wrote:
Chode! You're back!!


This is perplexing me, today.

I didn't think anyone even noticed me, whilst here, let alone whilst gone!
classicman • May 24, 2010 9:46 am
BS. I've been rereading your post above for 2 days. I agree with much of it.
Pie • May 24, 2010 12:20 pm
I mentioned you in the APB thread, iirc.
squirell nutkin • May 24, 2010 12:25 pm
So what's going on with um, what's his name. xoxoxoBruce?
monster • May 24, 2010 2:23 pm
he eloped with ducksnuts
lumberjim • May 24, 2010 4:11 pm
here he is
TheDaVinciChode • May 25, 2010 6:53 am
classicman;658043 wrote:
BS. I've been rereading your post above for 2 days. I agree with much of it.


I welcome further debate!

--

What's been perplexing me, today? Hm... Well, I posted a little about it, in a different thread, and it's still perplexing me, to this day:

TheDaVinciChode;657957 wrote:

The ever-growing realisation that mainstream music no longer requires any talent... not like it did, two decades ago.

Voices are more synthetic, than real, these days. "Glee" is the most recent proof of this.


How is it that we can call modern-day musicians, "musicians" at all? Computers do most of the work... most are no-talent FACES for the public to eat up... and even those WITH talent, if they're new on the scene (from the early 90s onwards,) will still have somewhat synthesised voices... The music industry doesn't seem to cater to individuality, or uniqueness, any more... it wants everyone to sound the same, in accordance to whatever the model-standard is, at the time.

Lyrics, too, are atrocious, by "yesteryear's" standards... So much repetition, so little originality... Mostly based around a terribly repetitive beat, which rarely requires any talent to produce. (Again, it's mostly computer-aided.)

The music industry has been seeing a steady decline in talent, originality, and amazement, over the last two decades... and yet, an incredible increase in profit, and no-name, no-talent wannabes shot to super-stardom - Tells you something about how easily the general public is driven to want, to consume, whatever the media throws at them, eh?

Don't even get me started on the banality of Hollywood, also within the last two decades. Most "blockbuster" movies are simple re-makes of movies from two or more decades ago... Add some flashy effects, some generally poor acting (in comparison,) and you get a global hit of unoriginal garbage. Where are the original scripts? What happened to great actors? (Like in the music industry - There are some great actors, but you'll find most of them are from BEFORE the great slump in quality, that we've been seeing, these last two decades.)

Entertainment is all about cheap, poor quality products, hyped up to the global media, with only one desire - huge profit... Gone are the days where music, and movies, were made to entertain, to show one's ability to create something truly memorable... Now, we all cling to the global media's every word, whilst the entertainment industry spoon-feeds us with ideas of flashy gimmicks, delusions of grandeur, hiding the terribly mundane nature of everything it produces.

When will people wake up, smell the roses, and force the industry to revert back to a state of decency?

Will they ever? That perplexes me, sirs and madams, to no end.
Shawnee123 • May 25, 2010 9:25 am
Don't even get me started on the banality of Hollywood, also within the last two decades. Most "blockbuster" movies are simple re-makes of movies from two or more decades ago... Add some flashy effects, some generally poor acting (in comparison,) and you get a global hit of unoriginal garbage. Where are the original scripts? What happened to great actors? (Like in the music industry - There are some great actors, but you'll find most of them are from BEFORE the great slump in quality, that we've been seeing, these last two decades.)


Oh, I agree re: movies. Hint: Independent Film.
classicman • May 25, 2010 9:58 am
They are playing to the masses. Musically speaking, its a new world. It is all flash and sex pretty much. The world seemingly doesn't want talent - they want their immediate desires fulfilled.
Clodfobble • May 26, 2010 2:46 pm
TheDaVinciChode wrote:
Kids these days! Get offa mah lawn!


Sorry man, but almost every single word of your post could have come from a guy in the 1950s talking about Elvis. It's true that nowadays a lot of work is done by computers rather than the studio musicians (aka uncredited working stiffs,) but you are deluding yourself with these fantasies that it used to be so much different. A little good and a lot of crap comes out of every generation, and it's not this generation's fault that you've conveniently forgotten all of your own generation's crap.
squirell nutkin • May 26, 2010 3:26 pm
Snap.
TheDaVinciChode • May 26, 2010 7:49 pm
Clodfobble;658588 wrote:
Sorry man, but almost every single word of your post could have come from a guy in the 1950s talking about Elvis. It's true that nowadays a lot of work is done by computers rather than the studio musicians (aka uncredited working stiffs,) but you are deluding yourself with these fantasies that it used to be so much different. A little good and a lot of crap comes out of every generation, and it's not this generation's fault that you've conveniently forgotten all of your own generation's crap.


Being 22 years old, this generation is my generation. (Well, moreso the mid 90s, but still, well in to the "digitally enhanced" era of the music industry.)

The use of electrical instruments (electric guitar, keyboard, etc,) is not the same as digitally enhancing a voice... These instruments must still be played, with precision, to produce a harmonious sound. They may not require tuning, like guitars and pianos of old, but that did not touch on the musician's talent to play them - Voices, on the other hand, filtered, re-filtered, phased and altered with a computer program, can sound however you wish, with no talent required from the person producing the voice. A man can sound like a woman, a dog can sing opera.

No, sir, it isn't the same. Not at all.

Lyrically speaking, there was little in the way of repetitive, three-word songs, right up until the last two decades... Lyrics still had meaning, much as they did in the very-olden days... so, again, it's nothing the same as comparing the last 20 years of music, to previous years of music.

Charisma, musical talent, ability, experience, and time, all played an important role, in the 50s, in the 70s, in the 80s... and before that, too; before the rise of "pop" music, before "rock 'n' roll." Sure, old people may've complained that it wasn't "music" in comparison to classically composed music, but that was more due to the profound change in music, rather than the lack of ability, of talent, of those producing it.

This isn't a change in music... it's a change in quality, in production, in talent.
squirell nutkin • May 26, 2010 8:00 pm
TheDaVinciChode;658645 wrote:


No, sir, it isn't the same. Not at all.


That would be Ma'am to you.
monster • May 26, 2010 9:24 pm
TheDaVinciChode;658645 wrote:
Being 22 years old, this generation is my generation.


dream on, honey. Welcome to OldFartLand.

Lyrically speaking, there was little in the way of repetitive, three-word songs, right up until the last two decades... Lyrics still had meaning, much as they did in the very-olden days... so, again, it's nothing the same as comparing the last 20 years of music, to previous years of music.


Wrong again. It's just that the three word songs didn't survive as well. (Da Da Da, anyone?) This parody should give you an idea that there was lyrical crap around before you were born, sonny....


[YOUTUBEWIDE]3vUVJsfG3eA[/YOUTUBEWIDE]
TheMercenary • May 26, 2010 9:40 pm
TheDaVinciChode;657947 wrote:
What's been mildly perplexing me, ever since America decided to "police the world," is, well......


I would be quite happy if they cut off all aid to all countries for the next 5 years and see how the "Hopey Changey Thing" works out for them....

No deployments.

No payments to the fucked up UN.

No payments to anyone.

KumbyafuckingAHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... :D
Clodfobble • May 26, 2010 9:57 pm
TheDaVinciChode wrote:
Lyrically speaking, there was little in the way of repetitive, three-word songs, right up until the last two decades... Lyrics still had meaning, much as they did in the very-olden days... so, again, it's nothing the same as comparing the last 20 years of music, to previous years of music.


These boots were made for walkin'
That's just what they'll do
One of these days these boots
Are gonna walk all over you.


Yes, that is lyrical genius right there.
monster • May 26, 2010 9:57 pm
The rest of the world would be much happier. Trust us on this. Oh and pay us what you owe us.....
TheMercenary • May 26, 2010 9:59 pm
I agree, pay us what you owe us...
monster • May 26, 2010 10:07 pm
which is...?
TheMercenary • May 26, 2010 10:13 pm
First it would have to be measured...
monster • May 26, 2010 10:14 pm
go ahead then.... you can't expect to collect if you don't send an invoice....
TheMercenary • May 26, 2010 10:16 pm
"pay us what you owe us..... "

Define this and I will.
monster • May 26, 2010 10:28 pm
Rly? You're seriously not going to wade in and tell me what I shoudl be doing and how? I find that hard to believe. :lol:

You owe the world your soul for fast food and all it's metastacized nasties.
You owe the world your soul for creating the market for goods made in child sweatshops
You owe the world your soul for George Bush. And that's a big one.
You owe Vietnam and the Koreas a new world and a new beginning. That one might not involve soul as much as Seoul, maybe start there.....

I don't want to overwhelm you, I'll send the next invoice when you've worked out how to deal with that shit.
TheMercenary • May 26, 2010 10:40 pm
let's see

France

D-Day

The fact that all the people in the UK do not have to speak German

all the Chinese do not have to speak Japanese

let me count the ways...
Aliantha • May 26, 2010 10:45 pm
Seriously? You're going to have an argument about who owes who what?

OK, here's some fuel for the fire (because apparently that's what I'm good at).

One word.

Imperialism!
TheMercenary • May 26, 2010 10:48 pm
Fuck Imperialism. I am a fan of Isolationism. The sooner we say fuck you to the rest of the world the sooner we can get our house in order...
Aliantha • May 26, 2010 10:51 pm
Well you'll have to stop practicing imperialism first. ;)
monster • May 26, 2010 10:59 pm
TheMercenary;658738 wrote:
let's see

France

D-Day

The fact that all the people in the UK do not have to speak German

all the Chinese do not have to speak Japanese

let me count the ways...


you dream.

you do know only American history books tell it this way, right?
Undertoad • May 26, 2010 11:18 pm
You will sing in our accent and you will like it.
HungLikeJesus • May 26, 2010 11:32 pm
History is written by winners, baby.
TheDaVinciChode • May 27, 2010 12:30 am
monster;658677 wrote:
dream on, honey. Welcome to OldFartLand.



Wrong again. It's just that the three word songs didn't survive as well. (Da Da Da, anyone?) This parody should give you an idea that there was lyrical crap around before you were born, sonny....


[YOUTUBEWIDE]3vUVJsfG3eA[/YOUTUBEWIDE]


Clodfobble;658704 wrote:
These boots were made for walkin'
That's just what they'll do
One of these days these boots
Are gonna walk all over you.


Yes, that is lyrical genius right there.


Minority vs Majority. :)

--

As for the America vs Everyone else rant... Is there even a point? The only people who believe America to be great, to be saviours of the world... are flag-waving, fact-ignorant Americans.

Everyone else laughs at the lack of actual fact in American history books... and the arrogance portrayed by Americans who have no clue.

(Bad day, so I'm leaving this short but sweet.)
monster • May 27, 2010 7:37 am
Sorry, guys, sometimes I forget to ignore some stuff.
Shawnee123 • May 27, 2010 8:05 am
monster;658726 wrote:
Rly? You're seriously not going to wade in and tell me what I shoudl be doing and how? I find that hard to believe. :lol:

You owe the world your soul for fast food and all it's metastacized nasties.
You owe the world your soul for creating the market for goods made in child sweatshops
You owe the world your soul for George Bush. And that's a big one.
You owe Vietnam and the Koreas a new world and a new beginning. That one might not involve soul as much as Seoul, maybe start there.....

I don't want to overwhelm you, I'll send the next invoice when you've worked out how to deal with that shit.


Can I set up a payment plan? I'm not disputing the charges. :D
HungLikeJesus • May 27, 2010 8:41 am
The Shawnees have claims too.
Shawnee123 • May 27, 2010 8:50 am
Yeah, but we're a forgiving people. :p:

I can forgive just about anything except people continuing to be a piece of whack. :lol:

Sincerely,

Earth Child
Shawnee123 • May 27, 2010 10:21 am
Undertoad;658758 wrote:
You will sing in our accent and you will like it.


OK.

Uh-mer-ka
Uh-mer-ka
Gahd shaid hees guh-race ahn meeeeeeee
And craun they gewd
In brutherhewd
Frem sea to shahnin' sea.

In some regions, anyway.
Spexxvet • May 27, 2010 11:39 am
monster;658794 wrote:
Sorry, guys, sometimes I forget to ignore some stuff.


You seem to be on edge recently. Is everything ok?
footfootfoot • Nov 5, 2011 8:06 am
I have been getting email addressed to another person lately. The address isn't even remotely similar, in fact it's not even a gmail account.

I relied to let them know that I was getting email sent to someone else and bcc'd myself and the bcc went to another gmail account that I have.
HungLikeJesus • Nov 5, 2011 9:22 am
Maybe someone crossed the intertubes.
infinite monkey • Nov 16, 2011 1:24 pm
I was walking down the hallway, and I saw a human ear on the floor! OMG! A human ear!

It might have been part of a cookie. I'm leaning towards human ear, though.
Undertoad • Nov 16, 2011 2:24 pm
[YOUTUBE]EQmm-uoIWnY[/YOUTUBE]
infinite monkey • Nov 16, 2011 2:28 pm
Mmmmm, what's better: Kyle MacLachlan :yum: or that movie?

BOTH.