Doctor Who Cares?

classicman • Apr 13, 2010 4:14 pm
http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=22432
Sundae • Apr 13, 2010 4:15 pm
POLL!
POLL please!

You heathen.
Flint • Apr 13, 2010 4:31 pm
Well, there was only one good one.
Shawnee123 • Apr 13, 2010 4:46 pm
Nurse Ishir Dont.
ferret88 • Apr 13, 2010 9:42 pm
Medical Examiner (M.E.) Neither
ZenGum • Apr 14, 2010 7:16 am
Well, Classic's chances of getting laid by some Brit chick are close to zero :D .
classicman • Apr 14, 2010 10:05 am
Damn! I certainly thought this thread would be the final nail in that coffin.
What do I have to do, insult the queen?
Shawnee123 • Apr 14, 2010 10:06 am
Oh no you di'int! :lol:
DanaC • Apr 14, 2010 10:16 am
Insulting the Queen would just make you more British :P
classicman • Apr 14, 2010 11:45 am
Well then I think she is totally awesome and I love Maggie T.
Shawnee123 • Apr 14, 2010 12:51 pm
QUIT TALKING ABOUT DOCTOR WHO CARES.
DanaC • Apr 14, 2010 2:07 pm
classicman;648549 wrote:
Well then I think she is totally awesome and I love Maggie T.


Depnding on where in the UK you were to say that it might just get you killed :P
classicman • Apr 14, 2010 2:13 pm
All hail Churchill!


How bout that then?
wolf • Apr 14, 2010 2:13 pm
I thought this was going to be about some new charity. But of course, in true cellar fashion, I find someone bashing on something I hold dear. Admittedly, I'm not as thrilled by the more recent incarnations. I could be quite content watching Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker over and over and over. Oh, wait a moment ... that's what I've already done and happily continue. Well, except for the ones with Romana. I didn't like her very much.
Sundae • Apr 14, 2010 2:16 pm
(In response to Classic, written before I saw Wolf's post)

Hang on...!
We suffered through the Obama election with you people.
We stood shoulder to shoulder reading pointless posts about Obamanation and gun control and nationalised healthcare.

And this is how you repay us?!

Wounded.
Wounded is how I feel.

Well, that and the fact any mention of the Doctor might generate more viewing figures Statewise :)
classicman • Apr 14, 2010 2:42 pm
what? This was a stupid clone thread thats currently out of control.
(probably Shaw's fault - I'm blaming everything on her now :p: )

Don't start that "you people" crap.
Sundae • Apr 14, 2010 2:43 pm
Yeahyeahyeah.
You people would say that. :eyebrow:
Shawnee123 • Apr 14, 2010 2:44 pm
You can blame me. I egged. I was a'eggin'.

I would probably like Doctor Why (that was totally a typo, but I'm leaving it 'cause it's funny) but I just thought classic's clone was funny.

:)
Sundae • Apr 14, 2010 2:45 pm
Laugh it up, furball.

No real reason except I like that quote.
Shawnee123 • Apr 14, 2010 2:47 pm
furball?

:lol:

Too funny.
Sundae • Apr 14, 2010 2:51 pm
OMG, don't tell me you haven't shaved your undercarriage and now think it was an unforgiveably personal comment from someone who has you under video surveillance?!

Oh, BTW, you sing great in the shower...
Shawnee123 • Apr 14, 2010 2:53 pm
Now I know you're full of it: I NEVER sing in the shower. I might hum (well, I would if I weren't alone.) ;)
Pete Zicato • Apr 14, 2010 2:57 pm
I am embarrassed to say that I have not seen a single episode of Dr. Who. I notice that a number of Dr. Who episodes available for instant play. Perhaps I will begin. Do I need to start with the 60s Dr. Who?
Sundae • Apr 14, 2010 3:10 pm
NO.

There is too much history to start with the early episodes. Also they were WOW at the time, but all you would notice as a newcomer is how cheesy the effects are. Start with Christopher Ecclestone or David Tennant.

Watch The Empty Child and The Doctor Dances.
Them's good, them is.
You might note a certain handsome British/ American in them too.

Biased, moi?
classicman • Apr 14, 2010 3:28 pm
This is the doctor I used to watch way back when. . .
Beest • Apr 15, 2010 1:15 pm
Sundae Girl;648653 wrote:
Laugh it up, furball.

No real reason except I like that quote.


Sigh, fuzball

Sorry I've struggled through a couple of episodes of Tennants and and his characterization is just awful, makes ecclestone bearable by comaprison, the plots aren't bad ,though all the mooning over Rose is barf inducing.

in short Pertwee/Baker FTW
DanaC • Apr 15, 2010 1:42 pm
Pertwee is my least favourite of the Doctor's incarnations ...still love him, but not as much as the others :P
Sundae • Apr 15, 2010 2:32 pm
Beest;649045 wrote:
Sigh, fuzball

Really?
Damn.
Apologies to everyone. I HATE mis-quoting. Esp if it's a widespread one.
Beest;649045 wrote:
Sorry I've struggled through a couple of episodes of Tennants and and his characterization is just awful, makes ecclestone bearable by comaprison, the plots aren't bad ,though all the mooning over Rose is barf inducing.

Meh. You and your wife are welcome to eachother, with your bad taste :P
I thought he was a good actor before I fancied him.
Errr. Welll.... Ahem.
He was playing Casanova for heaven's sake!

But any actor who can be cast as a young Peter O' Toole isn't a bad sort.

And mooning over Rose?! The "couple" of episodes you saw must have been timed really badly. What, no Freya? No Catherine Tate? No... dare I say it... JB?!

Baker was my Doctor. But even as a child I was aware he was slightly manic. I honestly can't see how the Ten could possibly be awful in comparison.

But hey - cool to turn a hating thread into a geek one ;)
classicman • Apr 15, 2010 3:59 pm
This was never a 'hating thread" it was a joke from its inception.
As you were.
Sundae • Apr 15, 2010 4:01 pm
Chick, if I thought it was really a "hating" thread I would never have joked with you about it.
classicman • Apr 15, 2010 4:07 pm
Yo Dude - go bake something. . . merkin style ;)
Sundae • Apr 15, 2010 4:10 pm
I got the cups and spoons... I might just do that!
classicman • Apr 15, 2010 4:13 pm
DOOO ITTT

I was expecting, and admittedly a lil disappointed, a whole thread about your cooking with all this crazy merkin stuff.
Sundae • Apr 15, 2010 4:47 pm
Sorry babba.
It's just been that I've mostly been dieting since Christmas.
Oh, except when I was in Amsterdam... I've given photo evidence of that so I can hardly deny...

I'll tell you something though. The 'rents are hooked on Merkin pancakes. Mum has now bought her SECOND bottle of real Maple Syrup (from M&S - they do things properly). And making them without Merkin measurers (is that even a word?) wouldn't be possible.

Oh - we're still using J&J's packet pancake mixes. Yes, we're getting short on them now, but that's not a hint - we're also getting fat!
classicman • Apr 15, 2010 4:57 pm
No sweat. - I was just guessing anyway.

FWIW - How much is the REAL maple syrup there?
DanaC • Apr 15, 2010 5:01 pm
I paid a little over £4 for a bottle last week.
Sundae • Apr 15, 2010 5:07 pm
£6 is the cheapest I've seen here.
classicman • Apr 15, 2010 7:56 pm
thats what like $8? That seems cheap to me.
Clodfobble • Apr 15, 2010 8:14 pm
Current exchange rate puts £6 at $9.30. It depends on how big the bottle is, of course, but they run from $11 to $15 in my grocery store.
DanaC • Apr 15, 2010 8:38 pm
330 gram bottle.
ZenGum • Apr 15, 2010 9:35 pm
Well, if you'll settle for "MAPLE [COLOR="LemonChiffon"]flavoured[/COLOR] SYRUP" it comes fairly cheap, and it's "made with [COLOR="LemonChiffon"]10%[/COLOR] PURE MAPLE SYRUP [COLOR="LemonChiffon"]and 90% sugar[/COLOR].
classicman • Apr 15, 2010 10:27 pm
Not a chance in hell of me eating that crap.
Pete Zicato • Apr 15, 2010 10:33 pm
When I was a kid we always bought log cabin syrup - it's what we could afford. I remember it said on the bottle "made with 2% real maple syrup". Now it doesn't even say that.
monster • Apr 15, 2010 10:45 pm
classicman;649113 wrote:
This was never a 'hating thread" it was a joke from its conception.
As you were


WOW!


Get 'im, Sundae!
monster • Apr 15, 2010 10:48 pm
Pete Zicato;649249 wrote:
When I was a kid we always bought log cabin syrup - it's what we could afford. I remember it said on the bottle "made with 2% real maple syrup". Now it doesn't even say that.


When we first moved here, many were relocated with us. Five young single males rented a huse together -we called it "Ladsville". The first thing they did was to place a bottle of Log Cabin Maple syrup on the toilet cystern,

For a brit, you might at well call it TurdHouse Syrup... :lol:
lumberjim • Apr 15, 2010 11:53 pm
Pete Zicato;649249 wrote:
When I was a kid we always bought log cabin syrup - it's what we could afford. I remember it said on the bottle "made with 2% real maple syrup". Now it doesn't even say that.


we had this:

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it was THICK
jinx • Apr 16, 2010 12:31 am
We always had the real stuff. When I was really little my dad and uncle made it from our trees.
glatt • Apr 16, 2010 9:14 am
We had Aunt Jemima growing up until my grandfather started making the real stuff. My uncle took it over from him when he died, and we got a few jars of that. Since then, we have resorted to buying the real stuff. It hurts to have to pay for real maple syrup, but I can't eat the fake stuff.

Trader Joe's often has good deals on it.
classicman • Apr 16, 2010 12:36 pm
I took a trip to Killington Vermont with the family as a young kid.
We have never used the fake stuff since.
Trader Joes is where I get it, but I don't shop often enough to catch it on sale.
Clodfobble • Apr 16, 2010 6:57 pm
ZenGum wrote:
Well, if you'll settle for "MAPLE flavoured SYRUP" it comes fairly cheap, and it's "made with 10% PURE MAPLE SYRUP and 90% sugar.


Pete Zicato wrote:
When I was a kid we always bought log cabin syrup - it's what we could afford. I remember it said on the bottle "made with 2% real maple syrup". Now it doesn't even say that.


Pete's got it right, Zen. Your options (in American grocery stores, at least) are literally 100%, or 0%. Why would they waste even 2% of real maple syrup on people who don't care enough to demand 100%?
ZenGum • Apr 16, 2010 9:45 pm
I presume it is to fool (oops, market to) suckers who don't know better.
monster • Apr 16, 2010 11:10 pm
glatt;649359 wrote:
We had Aunt Jemima growing up until my grandfather started making the real stuff. My uncle took it over from him when he died, and we got a few jars of that. Since then, we have resorted to buying the real stuff. It hurts to have to pay .


:eek: :eyebrow:
wolf • Apr 17, 2010 2:30 am
I grew up in a Log Cabin household. Then I discovered the dark, gooey richness of Karo Dark. Ah, the memories, which are probably far sweeter than the syrup.

I now stick to the real deal. I have at least three different kinds between the fridge and the cabinets right now, including a lovely jar (not bottle) of Amish Made Grade B Dark, that I picked up at the Central Market in Lancaster. That is some awesome syrup. Man. Now I want to make pancakes right away.
TheMercenary • Apr 17, 2010 11:13 am
I watched three episodes this am. That is such a great show. I am slowly learning that to really understand all the details you would need to watch every episode from the very beginning. There always seems to be subtle references to things from episodes ago, but it doesn't detract from the overall show.
DanaC • Apr 17, 2010 11:27 am
Which era were you watching merc?
TheMercenary • Apr 17, 2010 12:44 pm
Ugg... I have no idea.

The episode was where the people were trapped in the Library and inside a child who was part of a computer mainframe, she was the hard drive. And all the shadows were eating the people. I watched it to the end when they were saved, about 3 hours worth.
DanaC • Apr 17, 2010 12:49 pm
Ahh. Ok, So the modern era then :P The 10th Doctor (David Tennant): the one who's just stepped down.

Silence in the Library is the name of the episode I think.
TheMercenary • Apr 17, 2010 2:28 pm
yea, David Tennant. It was really great.
DanaC • Apr 17, 2010 2:31 pm
That's one of my favourite two parters. That bit when River Song whispers to him and we find out she knows his real name. Awesome.

Nobody knows that by the way. It's never been revealed :P


I really liked the audio echo of the dead as well. Moving and very creepy.
HungLikeJesus • Apr 17, 2010 4:24 pm
I've never seen Dr. Who. How does it compare to Spaced?
DanaC • Apr 17, 2010 4:25 pm
Umm. It doesn't. They're completely different genres. Probably the only comparison would be they're both very British. Whatever that means...


Spaced was a two series comedy show (a bloody good one!)
Doctor Who is ... part sci-fi, part fairytale and has been around in one guise or another for 47 years.


[eta] actually, thinking about it there are some similarities in the humour. Doctor Who jumps from serious to cheeky humour/cheesiness. The people who made Spaced were very influenced by Who (Pegg's a huge fan and has played in quite a few Doctor Who audios). I guess it shares a kind of atmosphere: but Spaced was aimed at adults. Who is family viewing, with the emphasis on making the growups laugh/engage, whilst scaring the kiddiewinks. Most Brits my age (and therefore the people who made Spaced) have some memory of 'hiding behind the couch' (or cushions) when the Doctor Who baddy came on screen.

Davros (the creator of the Daleks in Who mythology) used to scare the shit out of me when I was little. The Daleks scared me, but Davros made me hide :P
DanaC • Apr 17, 2010 6:47 pm
@ Merc: watch seasons 1 and 2 (of the new Who), they're excellent. The first series is Chris Eccleston and was the relaunch after a long absence. It creates a lot of the underlying pathos (and depth) of the later series. Eccleston's Doctor is the last (recent) survivor of a war that wiped out his people. Second series Tennant took over the role and the relationship between the Doctor and his female companion, Rose, starts to take on greater resonance. The ending of that season was brilliant and heart breaking.

Those two series are, amongst other things, a love story, and set the paradigm which later series followed, of the Doctor as a tragic (as well as chirpy, cheeky and brilliant) character.

Here's a clip of Eccleston's Doctor from the first series of the re-imagined Who, one of my favourite episodes: the Empty Child.
The kids are streetkids who gather together in the houses of the better off and eat their food whilst they're all in the air raid shelters.

[youtube]01EQZ0d4Qb4&feature=related[/youtube]
Happy Monkey • Apr 17, 2010 10:02 pm
DanaC;649703 wrote:
The people who made Spaced were very influenced by Who (Pegg's a huge fan and has played in quite a few Doctor Who audios).
More than that: Pegg played a villain, and Hynes played the Doctor's lover.
DanaC • Apr 18, 2010 6:36 am
Oh yeah; i forgot about Pegg's villain. He was that TV controller guy was't he?

Hynes (I believe she's now called Stephenson or somethng) was wonderful as his lover, when he was 'human'.

Lots of British actors have guested in Who. Even back in the 80s with its shaky sets and monster suits it used to get a lot of very respected actors in guest roles. Doctor Who is an institution over here, not just a show :P
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 18, 2010 8:36 pm
This link will take you to a video compilation of all the women who have been in Dr Who.
Sundae • Apr 21, 2010 2:50 pm
TheMercenary;649675 wrote:
The episode was where the people were trapped in the Library

The owner of The Library - or at least his descendant - was a fat faced man with a dimpled chin. That was Steve Pemberton, one of my favourite actors/ writers/ crushes. Just so you know.
HungLikeJesus;649702 wrote:
I've never seen Dr. Who. How does it compare to Spaced?

DanaC;649703 wrote:
...The people who made Spaced were very influenced by Who (Pegg's a huge fan and has played in quite a few Doctor Who audios).

Edgar Wright (Director of Spaced, Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz) is also a huge Who fan. At the time Spaced was written/ broadcast, we were still in a Who desert. Therefore there are far more references to Star Wars - Tim was supposed to be an obsessive but not completely a geek. Or at least not such a hopeless geek that he revered a programme that had burnt out (during the first series of course - second series addressed the new trilogy of Star Wars).

Had Dr Who not been on hiatus during Spaced I'm sure there would have been more references. But as Dani says, they are horses of a completely different colour.

The League of Gentlemen (shoehorned in again) for example were all fans (Pemberton is a Gent) but never referenced it. Mark Gatiss has written Dr Who novels, episodes and appeared in one (as Professor Lazurus) but still, in a series heavy on film and TV references from their childhoods, there was no Who. But if you listen to their commentaries (esp the guest commentary on The Blood on Satan's Claw which makes me laugh even now) you can tell what a big fans Gatiss and Dyson are.
Spexxvet • Apr 21, 2010 7:24 pm
Syrup - growing up - Log Cabin. Adult - rela 100%. Old fart - sugar free.:greenface

Pertwee is one of the funniest names ever.
DanaC • Apr 21, 2010 9:05 pm
True....but beaten into second place by Christopher Lillycrap.