Cool Weapons

Datalyss • Feb 5, 2010 2:04 pm
Got a Cool Weapon Photo? Share it. Both fictional and real weapons acceptable.

I'll start with the Skull Gauntlet:
lumberjim • Feb 5, 2010 3:01 pm
*cough*dork*cough*
DanaC • Feb 5, 2010 3:09 pm
It's a bit....well....skully, for my tastes.
Datalyss • Feb 5, 2010 3:21 pm
lumberjim;632608 wrote:
*cough*dork*cough*


Why thank you so much. As if my day wasn't bad enough already...mothafrakka!
Datalyss • Feb 5, 2010 3:22 pm
DanaC;632611 wrote:
It's a bit....well....skully, for my tastes.


That's the...point.
classicman • Feb 5, 2010 4:58 pm
Stop being so easy. no go ahead and post some more pictures - You and everyone else knows you have them already. So get on with it.
Big Sarge • Feb 5, 2010 5:35 pm
I don't mean to be ugly, but that looks like something a teenage boy would think is "cool". It's useless
Gravdigr • Feb 5, 2010 5:46 pm
DanaC;632611 wrote:
It's a bit....well....skully, for my tastes.


That looks nothing like Gillian Anderson.
Gravdigr • Feb 5, 2010 5:49 pm
Behold. The Barrett Light Fiddy - Reach out, way out, and touch someone.
Datalyss • Feb 5, 2010 5:58 pm
classicman;632635 wrote:
Stop being so easy. no go ahead and post some more pictures - You and everyone else knows you have them already. So get on with it.


Actually, as someone with very unsteady hands, using a weapon like that would be more dangerous to me than other people, but you have to admit, it is an extremely cool weapon. The only thing cooler would be to have those claws built-in:
toranokaze • Feb 5, 2010 6:03 pm
It would be great in an RPG
Datalyss • Feb 5, 2010 6:06 pm
Big Sarge;632645 wrote:
I don't mean to be ugly, but that looks like something a teenage boy would think is "cool". It's useless


It's in my BUDK catalog.

Useless? Hardly. If an attacker saw me wearing that gauntlet, they run screaming for mommy.
Datalyss • Feb 5, 2010 6:08 pm
Gravdigr;632652 wrote:
Behold. The Barrett Light Fiddy - Reach out, way out, and touch someone.


Meh. That one's nice too.
squirell nutkin • Feb 5, 2010 6:25 pm
DanaC;632611 wrote:
It's a bit....well....skully, for my tastes.


I don't like a man with too many muscles.

datalyss wrote:
I didn't make him for YOU!
Datalyss • Feb 5, 2010 6:55 pm
squirell nutkin;632660 wrote:
Datalyss, I must apologize for quoting you on something you didn't even type. I'm a bad squirell.


You got that right! :mad:
DanaC • Feb 5, 2010 6:59 pm
Datalyss;632657 wrote:
It's in my BUDK catalog.

Useless? Hardly. If an attacker saw me wearing that gauntlet, they run screaming for mommy.


I'm gonna suggest here, that the clue is in the name: Big Sarge. If Sarge thinks that weapon looks useless, I'm inclined to take his word for it.

Also, as someone who knows Sweet Fanny Adams about weaponry, I have to say, I'd be more frightened if someone pulled a blade on me than if they waved that at me.

@ Squirel: laughing my tits off, rfn :P
Datalyss • Feb 5, 2010 7:14 pm
People who use tough usernames are most likely just average (or less) in real life.

Annnd, I can see that this thread was a mistake.
DanaC • Feb 5, 2010 7:19 pm
Umm...actually he's a serving soldier of long experience. But if you haven't been keeping up with dwellars then you weren't to know.

*chuckles* the thread's not a 'mistake'. But y'know...post stuff and people will comment; that's kind of what we do :P
ZenGum • Feb 5, 2010 7:54 pm
If an attacker saw me wearing that gauntlet, they run screaming for mommy.


Unless they had, like, a gun.

I think the claw thing has a certain bad-ass style, but IMHO it tries too hard, which makes it a wannabe bad-ass thing. I can't imagine anyone who expects a fight to choose it as a useful weapon over, say a club or regular knife.
Big Sarge • Feb 5, 2010 8:13 pm
I'm sorry Datalyss for making an unseemly comment about the claw. I'm sure you will find it quite useful for personal defense from the bullies who take your school lunch money.

You pegged me on the user name. I guess I don't measure up in real life.
jinx • Feb 5, 2010 8:18 pm
Usually weapons purchased at the renaissance faire don't hold up very long either. Well, the ones Jim bought didn't anyway...
ZenGum • Feb 5, 2010 8:33 pm
Yeah, but you had some fun games with them before they broke, right?
Datalyss • Feb 5, 2010 8:43 pm
DanaC;632675 wrote:
Umm...actually he's a serving soldier of long experience.


And just how do you know this? Cuz he told you. :rolleyes: Got any concrete proof?
lumberjim • Feb 5, 2010 8:47 pm
there's a bunch of pictures of him in Iraq and a recent one with the Houston Texan Cheerleaders. and this lends some credibility to that whole thing.
squirell nutkin • Feb 5, 2010 8:53 pm
Datalyss;632667 wrote:
You got that right! :mad:


Hey, I'm just a squirell. Cut me some slack. You should be impressed that I can use the interthing.
Datalyss • Feb 5, 2010 8:56 pm
ZenGum;632682 wrote:
Unless they had, like, a gun.

I think the claw thing has a certain bad-ass style, but IMHO it tries too hard, which makes it a wannabe bad-ass thing. I can't imagine anyone who expects a fight to choose it as a useful weapon over, say a club or regular knife.


Ya know, BUDK isn't necessarily for people looking for useful/practical weapons. It targeted toward collectors of real life and fantasy weapons.

IMO, ya'll should really take a good look at their site B4 making any judgements.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I off to watch CAPRICA. TTYL.
lumberjim • Feb 5, 2010 8:58 pm
wait a minute!
squirell nutkin • Feb 5, 2010 9:03 pm
You'll poke your eye out.
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Big Sarge • Feb 5, 2010 9:38 pm
I must play nicely with others....I must play nicely with others....I must play nicely with others....awww, fuck it! Let me see, I demob in Hattiesburg and Gallman is about 2 hours away. If I run a MS DL (driver's license) search for males born 05JAN70 and cross refence the location, I'll get an address. Then I can reference tag receipts for registered vehicles..........

Of course I'm just kidding because if I saw a 40 yoa man with a fantasy skull gauntlet from the famous BDK, I would run screaming to my mommy. Now I need to go take my medicine. I admit I'm not the most stable person when I miss a dose.
monster • Feb 5, 2010 9:42 pm
I doubt he has a DL. He's probably on some registry or other, though.
lumberjim • Feb 5, 2010 9:45 pm
[youtube]49u7xWoZZls[/youtube]
monster • Feb 5, 2010 9:51 pm
why thank you, as a lowly level 20 nerd, I've always aspired to become a dork . You've made my day! I wonder how long it'll take me to become a level 39 dork and whether I'll have enough gold to buy one of those rad claw-glove things?
lumberjim • Feb 5, 2010 10:15 pm
sorry...was still talking to drax, thar
Datalyss • Feb 5, 2010 10:33 pm
lumberjim;632706 wrote:
there's a bunch of pictures of him in Iraq and a recent one with the Houston Texan Cheerleaders. and this lends some credibility to that whole thing.


i saw a lot of hers, but no him. Show me a picture of Sarge in Iraq, and I might believe it, cuz this:

Image

doesn't tell me a damn thing.
monster • Feb 5, 2010 10:34 pm
you mean I didn't get the promotion again? darnit.....
Datalyss • Feb 5, 2010 10:35 pm
squirell nutkin;632707 wrote:
Hey, I'm just a squirell. Cut me some slack. You should be impressed that I can use the interthing.


You want a damn cookie?
monster • Feb 5, 2010 10:37 pm
where's the pic of you, first, dwax? We have absolutely no reason to believe you're 40 and not in jail for something unspeakable. We believe sarge, we've seen his pics. Put up or shut up, I say. Or come and scare with with your toothpick mitten
Datalyss • Feb 5, 2010 10:50 pm
Big Sarge;632720 wrote:

Of course I'm just kidding because if I saw a 40 year-old man with a fantasy skull gauntlet from the famous BUDK, I would run screaming to my mommy. Now I need to go take my medicine. I admit I'm not the most stable person when I miss a dose.


J/K huh? Ok. Calming down now. Actually, I also must take a few meds daily, one for anger control.
Datalyss • Feb 5, 2010 10:56 pm
Big Sarge;632720 wrote:
Let me see, I demob in Hattiesburg and Gallman is about 2 hours away. If I run a MS DL (driver's license) search for males born 05JAN70 and cross refence the location, I'll get an address. Then I can reference tag receipts for registered vehicles..........


Hope your kiddin' 'bout this too, cuz yer startin' to scare me.
zippyt • Feb 5, 2010 11:09 pm
[youtube]9znUggkokOo[/youtube]
squirell nutkin • Feb 5, 2010 11:21 pm
Datalyss;632735 wrote:
You want a damn cookie?


I already got some ri-chiss ones dewd, from my homies in PA.

The H-FAM rocks!!!
Nirvana • Feb 5, 2010 11:34 pm
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Datalyss • Feb 6, 2010 12:31 am
monster;632737 wrote:
where's the pic of you, first, dwax? We have absolutely no reason to believe you're 40 and not in jail for something unspeakable. We believe sarge, we've seen his pics. Put up or shut up, I say. Or come and scare with with your toothpick mitten


Hopefully, I'll have one by Tuesday night. I just ordered a webcam.
Datalyss • Feb 6, 2010 12:37 am
zippyt;632751 wrote:
[youtube]9znUggkokOo[/youtube]


See my comment on this video at YouTube.
lookout123 • Feb 6, 2010 1:58 am
I don't have any cool claws but I'm pretty partial to these:
lookout123 • Feb 6, 2010 2:02 am
and
lookout123 • Feb 6, 2010 2:04 am
but the most important is probably:
lookout123 • Feb 6, 2010 2:07 am
for those counting that's a SA 9mm sub, .40sub, .40service, Sig 239, RRA M4, LMT M4, Sog Flash II, Gerber prodigy... and a mossberg 500 should be there as well. but, you know I'm lazy.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 6, 2010 2:37 am
Datalyss;632657 wrote:
It's in my BUDK catalog.
I just got a shipment from them today. Hmm 2:37am... make that yesterday.
zippyt • Feb 6, 2010 3:44 am
Blades are cool but this is cooler ,
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=86953&langId=-1&isFirearm=Y
http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/pistols/custom/desert_warrior/
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as20-e.htm
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as12-e.htm
http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh21-e.htm
http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh08-e.htm


To be continued
DanaC • Feb 6, 2010 6:39 am
I think the fact that the cellar sent him a Christmas package and that Sundae sent him cards and pics of herself kind of confirms Sarge's current posting :P

In fairness: the rule probably stands more often than it falls; that a 'tough' username often means a less than tough user. Just not in this case. Also, I don't actually think 'Big Sarge' was meant as a tough username, so much as an accurate description of what the user is: he's a sarge and he's a big guy :P

Also in fairness, at a purely fantasy level, I can see the appeal of the glove blades.(though I don't much like all the skulls: I think it'd look cooler nif it didn't have those) Just wouldn't pan out in rl, that's all. Now, if someone pulled a samurai sword on me: then I'd run screaming for mommy :)


@ Lookout: l like the look of those blades. I'm fairly typical as a brit: not much into guns, but I likes me a good blade.
Big Sarge • Feb 6, 2010 9:22 am
Datalyss - I'm sorry for being bitchy. My nickname is Big Sarge because that's what my soldiers call me. It's because of my size. I'm gruff and I bark, but inside I'm a marshmallow.

REF BUDK & United Cutlery products - I don't think they are very well made. Atlanta Cutlery & Museum Replicas have a decent line of historical reproductions & some fantasy pieces. They supplied weaponry for several movies to include "Kingdom of Heaven", "Braveheart", and "300". They also sell licensed movie replicas. They are owned by Windlass Steelcrafts in India. Windlass has been a contractor for the Brit MOD and they produce the swords for the USMC. I know several soldiers who carry knives from Atlanta Cutlery. Check them out if you get a chance.

Once again, I'm sorry for my behavior. I don't want a flame war. When I'm in the US, I live in the Camp Shelby area. I'm active in cowboy action & hunting. You have an invite to go to try out some of my toys. You might like my 8 bore (.86 cal which is closer to a 7 bore) muzzle loader. I even have a 24 pdr Confederate iron expedient mortar with a 5.82 bore. It has a 1,200 yard range with the 17lb hollow cast balls.

Sorry
skysidhe • Feb 6, 2010 10:08 am
I like that site! I prefer a knife over a handgun.

I DO have a Renascence knife. I wish I had gotten a less decorative one though.



xoxoxoBruce • Feb 6, 2010 2:32 pm
Big Sarge;632839 wrote:
REF BUDK & United Cutlery products - I don't think they are very well made.

That's what I expected, but I just bought this as a birthday gift, for a friend that has everything, and I'm floored at the quality. Of course it's made in China, and will probably poison him if he actually puts liquor in it, but it's beautifully made.

And for me, you know, since I was ordering anyway. :blush:
Big Sarge • Feb 6, 2010 3:21 pm
When I get back to the States, I want an Anzio Ironworks 20mm rifle. This is a Destructive Device so I can't place the order until I complete a Form 4. Anyway it fires the 20mm Vulcan round and has an effective range of app. 3,500 meters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9NxHj1R04g&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Dea5iae4A&feature=related

The ammunition photo illustrates just how big the round is. The round on the left is a 5.56mm that is standard for the M4/M16. The round on the far right is the 20mm Vulcan
Datalyss • Feb 6, 2010 3:34 pm
monster;632737 wrote:
where's the pic of you, first, dwax? We have absolutely no reason to believe you're 40 and not in jail for something unspeakable. We believe sarge, we've seen his pics. Put up or shut up, I say. Or come and scare with with your toothpick mitten


Ok, since you obviously put your trust in photos, which can be misleading, here's one of me that my dad found on his hard drive... or is it me???
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 6, 2010 3:36 pm
You mean they actually give you presents? :haha:
Datalyss • Feb 6, 2010 3:57 pm
Big Sarge;632839 wrote:
Datalyss - I'm sorry for being bitchy. My nickname is Big Sarge because that's what my soldiers call me. It's because of my size. I'm gruff and I bark, but inside I'm a marshmallow.


:lol: As you can tell, I'm also a 'tough' talker. I'm a 40 year old Death/Black Metal fan, but inside I'm a 4 year old EMO kid.

Big Sarge wrote:

Once again, I'm sorry for my behavior


No worries. "Assholish" behavior is to be expected here. :) Sometimes, it's just hard not to take things personally.
Datalyss • Feb 6, 2010 4:01 pm
xoxoxoBruce;632899 wrote:
You mean they actually give you presents? :haha:


Actually, that was Christmas at my dad's house about 6 years ago.
Big Sarge • Feb 6, 2010 4:08 pm
Well I'm a gothic metal freak. I listen to Sabaton, Nightwish, and Within Temptation. You need to pop some rounds with us.
Datalyss • Feb 6, 2010 4:33 pm
Big Sarge;632905 wrote:
Well I'm a gothic metal freak. I listen to Sabaton, Nightwish, and Within Temptation. You need to pop some rounds with us.


Yeah, I'd be great if Tarja re-joined Nightwish. Anette's ok I guess, but I prefer Taja.
monster • Feb 6, 2010 10:51 pm
Excellent pic, thanks.
monster • Feb 6, 2010 11:00 pm
monster;632947 wrote:
Excellent pic, thanks.


...now go for the close up..... :p


You need to realize that if you are too lazy/prima-donna-ish to look up the whole story, you are going to miss things and you're gonna get called on it. We -the regulars- have plenty of pictorial and non-pictorial evidence that big sarge is straight up.
Datalyss • Feb 7, 2010 3:42 pm
monster;632950 wrote:
You need to realize that if you are too lazy/prima-donna-ish to look up the whole story, you are going to miss things and you're gonna get called on it.


Bring it!

monster wrote:
We -the regulars- have plenty of pictorial and non-pictorial evidence that big sarge is straight up.


Evidence is not proof. And where is this "evidence?" Show me.

monster wrote:
Excellent pic, thanks.


Yes, but how can you be sure that's me?
zippyt • Feb 7, 2010 6:45 pm
,
Datalyss • Feb 7, 2010 7:09 pm
You mock me because you know a picture and a few stats can't ultimately prove a person is who he/she says he/she is.

I think we all know there are people on the 'net who aren't truthful about who they are.

Ya know, yer right Zippy, I am stupid...cuz I keep coming back here.
monster • Feb 7, 2010 10:48 pm
Nope, do your own homework. You don't believe he is who he says he is, that's fine with me, me... carry on on the stoopit train.

As for your pic, you get pissed off when we don't trust you and pissed off when we do (even if we ask for further corroboration). Perhaps you should just piss of all together and we'd all be happy. maybe except Dana whose lame duck/asshole collection apparently needs a little bolstering.
Datalyss • Feb 7, 2010 11:12 pm
Of course, it's interesting to me that during this entire back and forth, plus all the drauk I've posted in the past, leaving and coming back, and so forth and forsooth, that not once have ya'll realized I've just been messing with ya'. :)
lumberjim • Feb 7, 2010 11:16 pm
I for one was fooled
toranokaze • Feb 7, 2010 11:20 pm
I just don't understand why you get so angry.

And sharp things
http://www.agrussell.com/boker-applegate-fairbairn/p/BOhhhAF11/
monster • Feb 7, 2010 11:22 pm
I was totally taken in. And now I'm guffawing. What a jolly jape.

OK, I really am done with the fish in a barrel now.
Datalyss • Feb 7, 2010 11:25 pm
lumberjim;633167 wrote:
I for one was fooled


I done a good job, huh? Now, shall we get back on topic?

Here's another fantasy weapon:
Datalyss • Feb 7, 2010 11:29 pm
toranokaze;633169 wrote:
I just don't understand why you get so angry.


I don't get angry. I just type angry.


toranokaze wrote:

And sharp things
http://www.agrussell.com/boker-applegate-fairbairn/p/BOhhhAF11/


Nice.
toranokaze • Feb 7, 2010 11:42 pm
That clears somethings up.

moar:
http://www.icollector.com/The-Book-of-Eli-Denzel-Washington-Sword-Movie-Props_i9220519
DanaC • Feb 8, 2010 6:45 am
1. 9th Century Anglo-Saxon. Bet this was gorgeous when it was made. The swirls on the blade would have made it look all but alive.

2. This decorative pommel is from the Grimston sword.

3. This is what the blades would have looked like when they were first forged: this replica was forged in the same way and using the same materials used by the Anglo-Saxons.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 8, 2010 11:34 am
DanaC;633238 wrote:
3. This is what the blades would have looked like when they were first forged: this replica was forged in the same way and using the same materials used by the Anglo-Saxons.
You mean it's a ...











... forgery? :haha:
Beest • Feb 8, 2010 12:44 pm
Image

I guess technically it's not a weapon, but probably more practical than those over ornamented daggers and swords. Theres a big thing for them here in the US, which I can never fathom.

Big Sarge - Stay safe and bring 'em all home.
classicman • Feb 8, 2010 1:49 pm
Datalyss;633173 wrote:
Here's another fantasy weapon:


Certainly nothing useful. Heck if you plunged it into something your hand would hit the sharp bottom of the decorative bat. Inversely there are sharp edges on the other side. Seems useless to me. If one were to fantasize, it really ought not to be about a sword anyway.
Pete Zicato • Feb 8, 2010 2:05 pm
DanaC;633238 wrote:
1. 9th Century Anglo-Saxon. Bet this was gorgeous when it was made. The swirls on the blade would have made it look all but alive.

2. This decorative pommel is from the Grimston sword.

3. This is what the blades would have looked like when they were first forged: this replica was forged in the same way and using the same materials used by the Anglo-Saxons.

Are you sure that date is right? It looks a lot like damascus steel, but it's too early for that.
DanaC • Feb 8, 2010 2:20 pm
The first two pics are from museum sites. The first one is dated to 9th century. The last pic is of a replica, so that's modern :P But it was made using the same technique they'd have used. Probably looks like damascus steel because it was 'pattern welded'.

Anglo-Saxon swords, like Viking swords, used to have very distinctive whorls and swirls down the blade because of the way in which they were forged: they twisted rods of metal around each other then beat them down, reheated them and twisted again, then beat them flat. It would take many metal rods to create the blade.
Datalyss • Feb 8, 2010 2:56 pm
classicman;633321 wrote:
Certainly nothing useful.



I think we've covered this. The term "fantasy weapon" should be a clue.
Datalyss • Feb 8, 2010 3:09 pm
Ok, here's a real one:
classicman • Feb 8, 2010 3:19 pm
Datalyss;633336 wrote:
I think we've covered this. The term "fantasy weapon" should be a clue.


Why would one fantasize about a USELESS weapon?
Nirvana • Feb 8, 2010 3:31 pm
Why would one fantasize about a USELESS weapon?



Lots of guys do! ;)
classicman • Feb 8, 2010 4:11 pm
lol - touche'
xhaos01 • Feb 8, 2010 4:20 pm
Here

We

Go
xhaos01 • Feb 8, 2010 4:24 pm
Here

We

Go

Again
Datalyss • Feb 8, 2010 4:41 pm
classicman;633340 wrote:
Why would one fantasize about a USELESS weapon?


Oh, I dunno. Maybe cuz they LOOK COOL.
classicman • Feb 8, 2010 5:59 pm
Oh I see so perception is everything - gotcha.
DanaC • Feb 8, 2010 6:12 pm
xoxoxoBruce;633303 wrote:
You mean it's a ...











... forgery? :haha:



Owwww! I think I broke something whilst laughing at that joke

*blinks*
Gravdigr • Feb 9, 2010 4:38 am
The AC-130 Spectre
Big Sarge • Feb 9, 2010 3:39 pm
The AC-130H is a fantastic weapons platform. What really sucks are the limitations placed on their operations due to the MANPAD threat.

...snicker.. I said "MANPAD"...snicker..
Gravdigr • Feb 10, 2010 4:49 am
I try to learn something new every day (useful or not). I wiki'd MANPAD. Interesting read. THANK YOU, SGT!
TheMercenary • Feb 10, 2010 10:50 am
I loves me the Spector. Saved many a day over the years.

When I was on AD we got to tour a few. They really did an awesome job taking a C-130 platform and teching it up.
wolf • Feb 10, 2010 1:34 pm
I have a set of these babies. Still in the box. They look cool even when zip-tied to the cardboard.
TheMercenary • Feb 10, 2010 1:47 pm
sweet.
Gravdigr • Feb 11, 2010 11:57 am
wolf;633735 wrote:
I have a set of these babies. Still in the box. They look cool even when zip-tied to the cardboard.


Heheh, somebody sharpened a bass clef!
Gravdigr • Feb 11, 2010 12:11 pm
Speaking of blades, one of Popdigr's friends made this for him about almost thirty-five yrs ago. (Looks like Pop didn't do a bang-up job of cleaning last time.)
Undertoad • Feb 11, 2010 12:16 pm
Gravdigr;634046 wrote:
Heheh, somebody sharpened a bass clef!


You can sharpen a note, you can sharpen an octave, but you absolutely cannot sharpen a clef.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 11, 2010 12:30 pm
This knife was made in India during the late 1700s. It's for cutting the excess patch on a muzzle loading rifle, and was used by the Nepalese Royal Guard, until the introduction of cartridge loading rifles around 1840/1850.
Big Sarge • Feb 12, 2010 5:00 am
I like your patch knife. I enjoy knives with a history to them. Here are a few knives I had to sell to make ends meets after the incident with the ex.
richlevy • Feb 12, 2010 10:08 pm
Big Sarge;632896 wrote:
When I get back to the States, I want an Anzio Ironworks 20mm rifle. This is a Destructive Device so I can't place the order until I complete a Form 4. Anyway it fires the 20mm Vulcan round and has an effective range of app. 3,500 meters.
This would make a lot of sense if it turns out that moose and deer have suddenly acquired an industrial base and upgraded themselves to mechanized infantry. If the deer are driving around in APC's, then a vulcan round is an absolute must.

Why not just buy a LAW? It's only one shot, but you wouldn't need to use meat grinder afterwards.:sniper:
Big Sarge • Feb 13, 2010 7:18 am
More than anything, a Destructive Device is a great investment. Many of these weapons have increased in value more than 100 fold since the 1990's when importartion restrictions were emplaced. When the Assault Weapon band went into effect, I made a nice bundle by trading my pre-ban guns. I'm betting on a similar trend looking at the restrictions being placed on .50 cal rifles
richlevy • Feb 13, 2010 10:59 am
I'm having a hard enough time believing that it's legal to buy that. Also, who the heck legally supplies 20mm rounds to the civilian market? If they do, they must cost something like $10 per round.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 13, 2010 11:46 am
You're out of touch, richlevy, all your neighbors have them. :haha:
Datalyss • Feb 13, 2010 11:50 am
wolf;633735 wrote:
I have a set of these babies. Still in the box. They look cool even when zip-tied to the cardboard.


:cool:
Datalyss • Feb 13, 2010 11:53 am
Gravdigr;634051 wrote:
Speaking of blades, one of Popdigr's friends made this for him about almost thirty-five yrs ago. (Looks like Pop didn't do a bang-up job of cleaning last time.)


I dunno. Looks good to me.
Big Sarge • Feb 13, 2010 3:42 pm
Rich - you can own a 20mm or even a howitzer as long as you have the Destructive Device tax stamp which comes after a rigorous background check & local law enforcement approval. The 20mm Vulcan ammo is $9.50 for training ammo & $15.00 per tracer. If you handload, you can bring it down to around $5.00

Some people question why someone needs one. The same can be said for a Ferrari. LOL
richlevy • Feb 13, 2010 4:08 pm
Big Sarge;634464 wrote:
local law enforcement approval.
That's an interesting loophole. So someone could get approval from the sheriff's department in Backwoods, Arkansas to purchase it and then move to Philadelphia. As long as the buyer doesn't act as a straw purchaser and sell to someone else, is there anything the cops in Philly can do to keep a cannon out of their neighborhood?
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 13, 2010 4:26 pm
Why, do you think someone is going to do that to shoot their neighbor, or rob a Wawa, when it's much easier to just use a shotgun/pistol?
Big Sarge • Feb 13, 2010 6:52 pm
No loophole. I didn't make myself clear. You Tax Stamp for the weapon is issued by the Treasury Department after the backgroundinvestigation and approval by the ATF. The local law enforcement approval is in addition to the Federal approval. You cannot transfer the weapon to another individual without going through a specially licensed dealer and the new owner going through the same process.

People who own these weapons have been vigorously cleared and the weapons are closely tracked. I have never heard of a legally owned NFA weapon being used in a crime.
ZenGum • Feb 13, 2010 7:19 pm
Well, it'd be hard to hide under your coat.

I think the question was not about selling the weapon on to someone else, but the same owner moving to the jurisdiction of a different local law enforcer - do they have to get approval from their new local authority, or does the old approval transfer?

Just curious - suppose you do get one of these monsters ... then what? I could imagine a few fun afternoons blowing shit away on a firing range, but aside from a rather expensive kind of fun, what else could you do with it?
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 13, 2010 7:26 pm
Why collect cars you can't drive? Why collect teapots you can't make tea in?
ZenGum • Feb 14, 2010 4:41 am
I did think of one use ... you know the eccentric English gentleman who built a giant trebuchet which hurls burning pianos?


Skeet shooting.


Burning piano. Giant gun. Boom.
Okay, now I understand.
Big Sarge • Feb 14, 2010 9:46 am
Ok. My misunderstanding. To travel with any National Firearm Act weapon or even to move your residence to another state, you must have prior approval by the ATF (BATFE).

These large bore weapons are used in long range competitions. There is also a big machinegun/cannon shoot every year in KY. Like I mentioned earlier, a primary reason for owning these is the investment value.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 14, 2010 10:02 am
Nonsense, the primary reason is boner value. :lol2:
Datalyss • Feb 14, 2010 3:49 pm
Are our soldiers becoming borg?

Future Weapons - Soldier of the future

:borg:
classicman • Feb 14, 2010 5:23 pm
Thats nice stuff.
Bullitt • Feb 14, 2010 6:00 pm
Image
richlevy • Feb 14, 2010 7:00 pm
classicman;634630 wrote:
Thats nice stuff.
Just so long as their training includes being without. Hacking, jamming, EMP, and other countermeasures come to mind. Also, a larger and larger amount of the electronics used by our military are made outside of the US, by countries we may be in conflict with, directly or indirectly, in the future. Can you imagine a chip in a networked wireless system crashing on receipt of a coded signal?
Gravdigr • Feb 15, 2010 9:54 am
Big Sarge;634572 wrote:
There is also a big machinegun/cannon shoot every year in KY.


That would be the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot in West Point, KY.

Here ya go...
Gravdigr • Feb 15, 2010 11:02 am
These are actually worse than those other (big) guns. Since it's black powder, almost ANYONE can pack this almost ANYWHERE. Legally. This one is in .45.
Big Sarge • Feb 15, 2010 5:00 pm
Isn't that the same style of derringer that Booth used to shoot Lincoln?
Spexxvet • Feb 15, 2010 5:01 pm
Gravdigr;634769 wrote:
These are actually worse than those other (big) guns. Since it's black powder, almost ANYONE can pack this almost ANYWHERE. Legally. This one is in .45.


"Pack it" as in carry it? Concealed-like?
Datalyss • Feb 15, 2010 6:17 pm
Big Sarge;634847 wrote:
Isn't that the same style of derringer that Booth used to shoot Lincoln?


Looks the same to me, but according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Deringer, "Booth's Deringer was unusual in that the rifling twisted counterclockwise (left-handed twist), rather than the typical clockwise twist used on most Philadelphia Deringers."
Gravdigr • Feb 16, 2010 10:49 am
Spexxvet;634848 wrote:
"Pack it" as in carry it? Concealed-like?


I don't know about concealed. But, my federal probation officer said black powder weapons are OK for me to 'carry' and possess. If concealed, it may qualify as a 'concealed deadly weapon', like a knife in a belt sheath under you shirt-tail. The knife itself may be legal, concealing it will get you a room at the Graybar Hilton.

As a side note, I live in Kentucky. Here, if you are not a felon, you can carry a pistol on your hip (as long as it's not concealed) with no license or permit required. Called 'Open Carry', I believe.
Gravdigr • Feb 16, 2010 10:55 am
For size comparison:
TheMercenary • Feb 16, 2010 10:57 am
Awesome.
JuancoRocks • Feb 19, 2010 1:48 am
TheMercenary;635006 wrote:
Awesome.


Naw.......This is awesome:eek:.......400 Cor-Bon at the range Monday


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KeeDCfqYUs

That and the Big Sandy Machine Gun Shoot is coming up March 26-27-28
You all are invited.......

Image
Gravdigr • Feb 19, 2010 8:24 am
Was unfamiliar w/.400 Corbon, so I wiki'd it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Cor-Bon ammo, I'd heard of (and used), but I didn't know it's founder's name was 'Peter Pi'. Juvenile humor I know. But, there it is.

That goes on my List of Unfortunate Names.
Shawnee123 • Feb 19, 2010 8:56 am
My favorite:
classicman • Feb 19, 2010 11:11 am
That what you're usin on the hobos nowadays?
Shawnee123 • Feb 19, 2010 11:18 am
The hobos and the whales, they are my brothers.

Kum bay ya, my lord, kum bay ya.

Or some such bullshit.
Undertoad • Feb 19, 2010 11:22 am
In my experience, that weapon is only cool on one side.
Shawnee123 • Feb 19, 2010 11:23 am
But it's flippable! Like me!

Until it breaks. Damn feathers like to choke you to death.

Heyyyyyy, wait a minute!
TheMercenary • Feb 19, 2010 11:47 am
JuancoRocks;635906 wrote:
Naw.......This is awesome:eek:.......400 Cor-Bon at the range Monday


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KeeDCfqYUs

That and the Big Sandy Machine Gun Shoot is coming up March 26-27-28
You all are invited.......


A few buddies of mine go to the one in KY every year. I haven't made it yet but it is on my list of trips to make.
glatt • Feb 19, 2010 12:41 pm
Shaw is the pillow fire guy!
Shawnee123 • Feb 19, 2010 12:43 pm
Shhhhhh...

:unsure:
Spexxvet • Feb 19, 2010 1:07 pm
TheMercenary;636001 wrote:
A few buddies of mine go to the one in KY every year...


Why don't they just wear clothes. KY is so slippery! :p:
Shawnee123 • Feb 19, 2010 2:43 pm
Spexxvet;636025 wrote:
Why don't they just wear clothes. KY is so slippery! :p:


And really, isn't the barrel of the gun kinda nice and smoothy-slippery anyway? You wouldn't think they'd have that much trouble. Should be easier than the thing the nug is a substitute for.
ZenGum • Feb 19, 2010 8:48 pm
Have we considered the Raging Judge Magnum yet?

Taurus has introduced the gigantic Raging Judge Magnum. In additional to the standard Judge cartridges, the .410 shotshell (2.5"/3") and .45 Colt, the Raging Judge can chamber the .454 Casull!


I can see uses for this. If I were hiking in country with bears or other large predators, having the 3" version ready to hand, perhaps with the first chamber empty for extra safety, could be a good idea.
Although the lady in the first pic is smiling in a way that suggests she has an alternate use for it, that may or may not involve KY.
Gravdigr • Feb 26, 2010 11:54 am
That looks like a handful...of AWESOME!!!
TheMercenary • Feb 28, 2010 11:16 am
ZenGum;636164 wrote:
Have we considered the Raging Judge Magnum yet?


I can see uses for this. If I were hiking in country with bears or other large predators, having the 3" version ready to hand, perhaps with the first chamber empty for extra safety, could be a good idea.


Sounds like that mofo would kick so hard it would break your wrist, but I guess that beats getting eaten by a bear.
Stormieweather • Feb 28, 2010 11:44 am
Wouldn't be able to do much practicing with it, then. :eyebrow:
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 28, 2010 11:47 am
Like Atomic Bombs, you don't have to. ;)
Gravdigr • Mar 8, 2010 3:46 pm
Several pics, but, alas, no backstory. Check this out.:eek:

WARNING: Last few pics are a little on the gruesome side. Might not be SFW.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 8, 2010 3:52 pm
I saw that the other day and it confused me. Obviously he used smokeless powder instead of Black Powder, but why does a muzzle loader have a bolt? Cleaning?
Gravdigr • Mar 11, 2010 4:32 pm
That particular muzzleloader is designed specifically for smokeless powder. My guess is he used the same amount of smokeless as he would have used black powder. A very large difference. The bolt is for placing the 209 shotgun primer (instead of a percussion cap or flint) behind the powder charge.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 11, 2010 8:00 pm
Gravdigr;640299 wrote:
My guess is he used the same amount of smokeless as he would have used black powder.
Yeah, that's what I meant. :smack:
The bolt is for placing the 209 shotgun primer (instead of a percussion cap or flint) behind the powder charge.
Didn't know that, I don't mess with muzzies at all.
classicman • Mar 11, 2010 10:23 pm
Gravdigr;640299 wrote:
That particular muzzleloader is designed specifically for smokeless powder.


Gravdigr;639703 wrote:
Several pics, but, alas, no backstory. Check this out.


But why do they give the info at the bottom right for blackpowder as well, or am I reading it wrong?
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 11, 2010 11:50 pm
In most muzzle loaders you can't use smokeless at all, only black. This gun was designed to use smokeless, but of course you can use black if you wish. You just have to use the right amount of whichever you choose to use.
squirell nutkin • Mar 12, 2010 12:05 am
Gravdigr;639703 wrote:

WARNING: Last few pics are a little on the gruesome side. Might not be SFW.

Might not be Safe For Lunchtime. That shit's gotta sting.
Gravdigr • Mar 12, 2010 12:53 pm
classicman;640361 wrote:
But why do they give the info at the bottom right for blackpowder as well, or am I reading it wrong?


This? Whichever you use, you need precise amounts of it. And some propellants are dirtier than others (when burned), and require different cleaning regimens.:)
Gravdigr • Mar 12, 2010 12:56 pm
squirell nutkin;640385 wrote:
Might not be Safe For Lunchtime. That shit's gotta sting.


Yep, that'll leave a mark.
squirell nutkin • Mar 12, 2010 10:05 pm
Somewhere I gotta find these photos of a dude who let himself get bit on the hand by a Brown Recluse, then he photographed the developing wound and subsequent decay of his hand. Looked like that dude's hand.
JuancoRocks • Mar 18, 2010 8:16 pm
Speaking of cool weapons.......This is where I will be next Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NhluTb0Pzo&feature=player_embedded

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TheMercenary • Mar 20, 2010 9:50 am
That looks like a blast! Give us a report when you come back. Cheers.
Gravdigr • Mar 26, 2010 2:36 pm
:eek:
spudcon • Mar 27, 2010 1:04 am
JuancoRocks;641834 wrote:
Speaking of cool weapons.......This is where I will be next Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.......

That's the coolest video I've seen in years! Some of those folks aren't wearing ear protection, and there's some heavy duty weaponry going off. I envy you Juan.
spudcon • Mar 27, 2010 1:08 am
Gravdigr;643325 wrote:
:eek:

Any idea who the dumass is (was) that's hanging around to take that picture?
Crimson Ghost • Mar 27, 2010 1:45 am
AA-12

Full Auto Rock 'n' Roll
TheMercenary • Mar 27, 2010 11:06 am
Gravdigr;643325 wrote:
:eek:


Completely Photoshopped. Photographer would never have made it.
Gravdigr • Mar 27, 2010 5:34 pm
spudcon;643460 wrote:
Any idea who the dumass is (was) that's hanging around to take that picture?


TheMercenary;643520 wrote:
Completely Photoshopped. Photographer would never have made it.


Camera either, for that matter.

Stumbled Upon.
Gravdigr • Mar 27, 2010 5:35 pm
Crimson Ghost;643472 wrote:
AA-12

Full Auto Rock 'n' Roll


What could possibly go wrong?
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 27, 2010 7:46 pm
TheMercenary;643520 wrote:
Completely Photoshopped. Photographer would never have made it.

What kind of rocket/bomb is it?
zippyt • Mar 27, 2010 9:51 pm
81mm mortar Round ??
Crimson Ghost • Mar 27, 2010 11:25 pm
Gravdigr;643602 wrote:
What could possibly go wrong?


A whole lot...
Bullitt • Mar 28, 2010 3:08 am
Laser guided bomb?
Image
Gravdigr • Mar 28, 2010 8:29 pm
xoxoxoBruce;643629 wrote:
What kind of rocket/bomb is it?

Bullitt;643674 wrote:
Laser guided bomb?
Image


Yep. What Bullitt said. (guessing)
Gravdigr • Mar 28, 2010 10:02 pm
spudcon;643460 wrote:
Any idea who the dumass is (was) that's hanging around to take that picture?


TheMercenary;643520 wrote:
Completely Photoshopped. Photographer would never have made it.


Gravdigr;643601 wrote:
Camera either, for that matter.

Stumbled Upon.


I just now thought: telephoto lens. (I still agree with photoshop, tho. Lot of 'artifacting' around the incoming round.):)
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 28, 2010 10:25 pm
Well, it looks like it would hit closer to the buildings, than the group in the foreground, plus there is an elevation difference. The camera could have survived... or it could have been a $150,000 dud. :haha:
glatt • Mar 29, 2010 8:27 am
It shows people running away from a falling bomb. That's like showing a picture of a person dodging a bullet, and then arguing over whether it's a Photoshop. Of course it's fake.
Gravdigr • Apr 4, 2010 5:15 pm
If information is a weapon...
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 4, 2010 6:54 pm
glatt;643945 wrote:
It shows people running away from a falling bomb. That's like showing a picture of a person dodging a bullet, and then arguing over whether it's a Photoshop. Of course it's fake.


You're making an assumption. They could be running away from an approaching aircraft, and not even see the bomb.
zippyt • Apr 4, 2010 7:38 pm
I Still dont think thats a Pavelow or way , It doesnt look Big enough for a 5oo lb bomb
TheMercenary • Apr 4, 2010 10:20 pm
xoxoxoBruce;643629 wrote:
What kind of rocket/bomb is it?


Dude, it makes no difference. It is a bull shit photo. Don't try to split hairs.
JuancoRocks • Apr 5, 2010 3:23 am
TheMercenary;642101 wrote:
That looks like a blast! Give us a report when you come back. Cheers.


Here's a video I shot at the Saturday night shoot.......The pyrotechnics were spectacular......This went on for an hour, non stop until the planes came through, then the rate of fire increased dramatically......

[YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYrF8yiz5pw

Photos are located here.......A grand time was had by all.......

@Spudcon......"That's the coolest video I've seen in years! Some of those folks aren't wearing ear protection, and there's some heavy duty weaponry going off. I envy you Juan."

Just a FYI.......Everyone is required to wear hearing and eye protection.......Shooters and spectators alike.......
That's not to say some of the old-timers don't occasionally forget?:D
.
TheMercenary • Apr 5, 2010 9:34 pm
Looks like a blast, literally.
Gravdigr • Oct 19, 2010 3:20 am
I don't know if this is real or 'shopped, but...

[SIZE="4"]WANT!!![/SIZE]
Crimson Ghost • Oct 22, 2010 2:56 am
Probably a custom paint job on a competition rifle.
Gravdigr • Nov 15, 2010 3:54 pm
Fuck cancer.
Gravdigr • Nov 15, 2010 3:59 pm
Now THIS is a cool weapon. B1 Lancer.
Clodfobble • Nov 15, 2010 11:43 pm
Looks like someone forgot to pay the gas bill.
ZenGum • Nov 16, 2010 7:30 pm
This is for Wolf:

[ATTACH]29994[/ATTACH]
TheMercenary • Nov 16, 2010 8:25 pm
Clodfobble;694468 wrote:
Looks like someone forgot to pay the gas bill.
test center.
casimendocina • Nov 17, 2010 2:55 am
Re images posted by Gravdigr and Zen: :)
Gravdigr • Nov 18, 2010 4:54 pm
Rossi single-shot rifle in .223----------------------------$178
Barska Huntmaster 3-9x50 scope------------------------$49
Shoulder strap-----------------------------------------------$6
Hammer extension------------------------------------------$8
Winchester folding bi-pod----------------------------------$19

Prescribing coyote medicine at 300 yards----------Priceless.

See that short barrel? Loudest gun I've ever shot.
Gravdigr • Nov 21, 2010 3:26 pm
I just noticed the post with Popdigr's rifle is post 187. how appropriate for a coyote killer. Pull a 187 on his ass...
TheMercenary • Nov 25, 2010 1:52 pm
Nice! :thumb:
Gravdigr • Nov 26, 2010 4:36 am
Someone in another post linked the site this came from, DreadGazebo.com.

:drool:
Happy Monkey • Nov 26, 2010 2:44 pm
Sure, it's a fun minute, but then you've got no grenades.
Gravdigr • Nov 26, 2010 3:16 pm
Oh, you got to save up!
TheMercenary • Nov 27, 2010 1:29 pm
Reload. Everyone does it.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 28, 2010 12:33 am
And there's plenty of time when you've obliterated everything in the area.
Gravdigr • Dec 3, 2010 1:44 am
Hey, anybody got thirty grand burning a hole in ya pocket?
TheMercenary • Jan 19, 2011 9:51 pm
[youtube]0CrUARlmqso[/youtube] I would love one of these.
Gravdigr • Jan 20, 2011 2:59 am
I find it cool that in the world of ammo, we have the .50 Beowulf and the 6.5 Grendel.
Perry Winkle • Jan 20, 2011 3:26 pm
Gravdigr;698053 wrote:
Hey, anybody got thirty grand burning a hole in ya pocket?


Where the hell would you go to shoot that?

I'd like to see what that little dog's reaction is when they fire off a round from that thing.
footfootfoot • Jan 20, 2011 3:54 pm
Gravdigr;698053 wrote:
Hey, anybody got thirty grand burning a hole in ya pocket?

I like the car on blocks in the background. Nice touch.
Griff • Jan 21, 2011 11:20 am
Yeah, misplaced priorities much?
Gravdigr • Jan 21, 2011 5:24 pm
Perry Winkle;707033 wrote:
Where the hell would you go to shoot that?


Anywhere. I. Pleased.

:D
zippyt • Jan 21, 2011 11:13 pm
I WANT One of these !!!
Gravdigr • Jan 22, 2011 11:39 am
Awesomeness.
Griff • Jan 22, 2011 11:44 am
My Dad made a primitive version of that. He put his Jonsereds to a very large ash which split up the middle and smacked the saw many feet away leaving him thinking about mortality.
Gravdigr • Feb 9, 2011 2:20 pm
From Hard Corps Weaponry.

Is teh awesome.
zippyt • Feb 9, 2011 2:27 pm
Oh Yeah , where do I get that Hello Kitty Pump gun ???
You Know Wolf is going to want one !!!
zippyt • Feb 10, 2011 6:42 pm
Photo shopped but Interesting concept
Gravdigr • Feb 12, 2011 3:05 pm
:thumb:
Big Sarge • Feb 12, 2011 3:38 pm
Brass knuckle revolver (pinfire) with folding blade. Circa 1865?
TheMercenary • Feb 16, 2011 9:13 am
Do Not Invade Oklahoma...


[youtube]OQnU1t7UzgM[/youtube]
Gravdigr • Feb 16, 2011 4:28 pm
Very cool, Merc! But, uh, invade Oklahoma? For what? Is GA getting low on snakes?

:p:
TheMercenary • Feb 17, 2011 1:24 pm
:lol:
Bono, from U2 • Feb 24, 2011 8:21 am
Image
Gravdigr • Mar 7, 2011 2:14 pm
Ahhh...The Barrett Light Fitty. Really reach out and touch someone.
zippyt • Mar 30, 2011 11:09 am
[YOUTUBE]TSU1jQoGIqo[/YOUTUBE]
Gravdigr • Mar 30, 2011 3:20 pm
Oh, aim that glorious motherfucker at Michigan. Right around Ann Arbor.
zippyt • Mar 30, 2011 8:12 pm
no
glatt • Mar 30, 2011 10:01 pm
Yeah. I'm with Zippy on this. It's one thing to argue with other dwellars, but I don't like to see vague references to weapons being used against them. Don't do that any more.
TheMercenary • Mar 30, 2011 10:45 pm
He never said which side he would aim it at....
Gravdigr • Mar 31, 2011 4:27 pm
Did you see the weapon? Did ya watch the video? It's a fucking slingshot. That shoots machetes!!!!! Do you really want to take that literally??? When that fucker can shoot FIVE HUNDRED FUCKING MILES, then it might be issue. Of the vitriolic shit I have spewed, THIS is what worries you. I won't tell you about the rocket I'm building in my backyard, then. Or the straw double-loaded w/spitwads that's pointing at the back of your head right now!!!

I've been waiting for one of these ( a warning in PM) for a while now, since I'm going against The Queen and all. But, the slingshot...That's rich.
Gravdigr • Mar 31, 2011 4:32 pm
What if I wish for bad weather?
Gravdigr • Mar 31, 2011 4:32 pm
Or an uncomfortable night of sleep?
glatt • Mar 31, 2011 4:53 pm
Gravdigr;720070 wrote:
Of the vitriolic shit I have spewed, THIS is what worries you.


Yes.

I don't like the vitriolic shit, I find it pretty irritating, and it's not winning you any friends, but it's not intolerably irritating to me yet. However, your comment calling for the use of a deadly weapon against another dwellar is not OK. You're pushing and pushing, and this is where you went too far for me.
Gravdigr • Mar 31, 2011 5:02 pm
How will you ever get to sleep?
Gravdigr • Mar 31, 2011 5:22 pm
glatt;720080 wrote:
...However, your comment calling for the use of a deadly weapon against another dwellar is not OK...


Deadly weapon?! :lol2: It barely penetrates a quarter-inch of CARDBOARD. FROM LESS THAN TEN FEET. And the projectile travels at, Ima guess, somewhere around twelve feet per second?

If Hitler had had machete-shooting slingshots, we'd be posting in German, I suppose.

I say again, :lol2:
Gravdigr • Mar 31, 2011 5:34 pm
High-tension cable support towers (2): check
Bungee cord (six thousand feet): check
Concrete (500 cubic yards): check
Machete (25 feet long): check
Bread tie (1):

Dammitt!!!! I gotta go to the store.
Gravdigr • Apr 1, 2011 3:55 pm
[COLOR="LemonChiffon"].[/COLOR]
Gravdigr • Apr 2, 2011 5:19 pm
M249 SAW Airsoft Machine Gun: $399.95
ZenGum • Apr 2, 2011 7:38 pm
Somehow "airsoft" and "machine gun" seem wrong together.

But heck, 400 bucks? I would have thought they were much more than that. You crazy merkins.

ETA. Hey, follow the link and it all makes much more sense!
Griff • Apr 2, 2011 7:48 pm
And when the cops shoot a kid, his Dad will ask why?
monster • Apr 2, 2011 9:47 pm
Griff;720622 wrote:
And when the cops shoot a kid, his Dad will ask why?


...or just "how much will you compensate me?"
Gravdigr • Apr 3, 2011 3:17 pm
JFC.

:headshake
classicman • Apr 3, 2011 4:22 pm
Griff;720622 wrote:
And when the cops shoot a kid, his Dad will ask why?


I couldn't agree more.

The kids will probably never get, but I wonder how long it will take for the parents to realize that guns are NOT TOYS.
never mind - wrong thread.
Gravdigr • Apr 3, 2011 5:16 pm
classicman;720763 wrote:
...wrong thread.


:thumb:
Gravdigr • Apr 11, 2011 1:13 am
The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch
Gravdigr • Apr 14, 2011 4:48 pm
The U.S. Navy's Phalanx CIWS (Close In Weapons System).

Also known as Holy Fucking Shit.:eek:

[YOUTUBE]vH5RVTS4QxA[/YOUTUBE]

This is a one hundred round burst (100 fucking rounds, mind you):

[YOUTUBE]DCo81cTgrBo[/YOUTUBE]

[SIZE="1"]Holy Fucking Shit![/SIZE]
GunMaster357 • Apr 19, 2011 3:43 am
Fun for playing in the office...

[YOUTUBE]dfOyE5b2jh4[/YOUTUBE]
TheMercenary • Apr 19, 2011 1:13 pm
I wonder if you can get them with explosive tips?
Flint • Apr 19, 2011 3:58 pm
The Archer's Falchion, from Windlass. The falchion was a short, single-edged sword. Heavy, but single-handed.

When archers had their defensive positions overrun, they needed a simple weapon for close combat. The falchion can deliver damaging blows with little skill or training involved. My interest in the falchion began recently when my character in Dungeons and Dragons acquired one. Coincidentally, my character is an stealthy, bow-hunting woodsman who tries to avoid melee combat. The falchion appears to be exactly what a combatant of this type would actually use, if necessary.
Beest • Apr 19, 2011 10:50 pm
I understand those CIWS' are such maintenance hogs they are almost impossible to keep working and impractical.

Mini crossbow, very cool, did anyone see the linked mini Browning \

[YOUTUBE]abTGAP7tG0Y[/YOUTUBE]

They are made by Tippmann, who are a big paintball gun manufacturer, I guess everyone needs another hobby :)
monster • Apr 19, 2011 10:52 pm
Beest;724716 wrote:
They are made by Tippmann, who are a big paintball gun manufacturer, I guess everyone needs another hobby :)


Some of us prolly also need another hubby....
Griff • Apr 23, 2011 3:06 pm
Beest;724716 wrote:
I understand those CIWS' are such maintenance hogs they are almost impossible to keep working and impractical.

Mini crossbow, very cool, did anyone see the linked mini Browning \

[YOUTUBE]abTGAP7tG0Y[/YOUTUBE]

They are made by Tippmann, who are a big paintball gun manufacturer, I guess everyone needs another hobby :)


Squirrel deterrent!
Gravdigr • Apr 23, 2011 5:12 pm
The Cheaper Than Dirt catalog used to have a quad-barrel gun kit that required the actions of four Ruger 10/22s. It had a crank trigger system that fired all four barrels with one rotation of the crank. But it's not in my latest catalog, and I can't find it on their site. And Google Image search don't know shit about it.
Beest • Apr 24, 2011 4:39 pm
like this skip forward to 39s for The Grinder, hand cranked paintball guns

[youtubewide]MiCFOATYpTE[/youtubewide]

[youtubewide]vM8YT4OyfpQ[/youtubewide]
Beest • Apr 24, 2011 7:59 pm
cool is relative, we built it and with a little tuning it worked, that's cool enough for me.

[youtube]W5HJjpA9_AA[/youtube]

That's the basic medieval version, much cooler is the modern engineering update, the floating arm trebuchet.

[youtubewide]xLjvYTmDo_Q[/youtubewide]

and when you really neeeed to fling a burning piano.

[youtube]hZxCEkGk6HI[/youtube]
Big Sarge • Apr 29, 2011 5:16 pm
Local police supply has a .50 cal sniper rifle that I've signed up to test fire.
TheMercenary • Apr 29, 2011 7:56 pm
I would love to own one just for GP.

But there are so many other on my list right now.

Next I want a Guide Gun in 45-70.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/bigbore/1895gs.asp

http://www.gunblast.com/KellyWatkins-Marlin1895.htm
Gravdigr • Apr 30, 2011 7:33 pm
More of a Cool Weapon Accessory.

I understand the price is quite high, but, the effect is priceless...


ETA: I'm not familiar with that rifle, I don't think.
ZenGum • Apr 30, 2011 8:43 pm
Bluahhhgh!


:lol:
Big Sarge • May 1, 2011 3:41 am
Rifle is an HK G3 variant. It appears to be the Iranian manufactured variant. We captured some near Haditha
plthijinx • May 1, 2011 3:49 am
the way he's resting that rifle does not look natural at all! ouch!!
Big Sarge • May 1, 2011 1:07 pm
One of the few positive benefits of being an amputee (thin they are more common in the military than most realize).
Gravdigr • May 1, 2011 2:59 pm
Thanx for the ID there, Sarge.

I don't know why, but, the guy's name keeps making me smile.

"Butterworth" just makes me think of Private Pyle from "Full Metal Jacket".

ETA: You do realize, of course, that his mother is "Mrs. Butterworth"?
Gravdigr • May 4, 2011 4:38 pm
YES!!! Ruger finally brings the 1911.

Behold: The Ruger SR1911.

Yes, I said Ruger.
Gravdigr • May 4, 2011 5:02 pm
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Pete Zicato • May 5, 2011 9:57 am
It's a gun, and it's a computer.


Which pretty much means it will fuck up on you just when you need it most.
BigV • May 5, 2011 4:55 pm
Pete Zicato;731005 wrote:
It's a gun, and it's a computer.


Which pretty much means it will fuck up on you just when you need it most.


and this time, it's gonna leave a mark.

Or a hole...
Gravdigr • May 5, 2011 5:38 pm
Pete Zicato;731005 wrote:
It's a gun, and it's a computer.


Which pretty much means it will fuck up on you just when you need it most.


Amen.
ZenGum • May 5, 2011 9:02 pm
I can just imagine the dialog window popping up.

You have clicked fire. This will launch a grenade. Are you sure? YES NO
Flint • May 5, 2011 9:32 pm
Grenade_01
15 seconds to detonation...
0:15
0:14
0:13
0:12
0:11
0:10
Launch Grenade? Y or N
Y
0:09
Y
Y
Y
0:08
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
This Program has encountered a critical error and will shut down. Send error report?
infinite monkey • May 6, 2011 10:12 am
"It looks like you are trying to kill or maim. Would you like some help with that?"
monster • May 6, 2011 11:03 am
:lol2: infi you big heap funny girl
infinite monkey • May 6, 2011 11:03 am
Sez Queen Funny!
monster • May 6, 2011 11:05 am
smooches
infinite monkey • May 6, 2011 11:05 am
Mwaaah!
Undertoad • May 6, 2011 12:46 pm
Flint;731254 wrote:
Grenade_01
15 seconds to detonation...


...one day to detonation...

...3 seconds to detonation...

(This weapon brought to you by Windows File Copy Dialog Box)
Gravdigr • May 6, 2011 2:44 pm
Also gives new meaning to "Blue Screen of Death".
Big Sarge • May 9, 2011 1:52 pm
Some nice full auto weapons
[YOUTUBE]8tPprtkWZzA[/YOUTUBE]
plthijinx • May 9, 2011 2:13 pm
there were weapons in that video?

pretty cool! never fired a fully auto. back in the day i used to own a mak-90 and a pos sks. liked the mak better. the sks jammed way too much. but my fav was my bolt action weatherby mark v with a leopold 10x scope. smooooooth rifle.
Gravdigr • May 10, 2011 12:43 pm
plthijinx;732286 wrote:
...but my fav was my bolt action weatherby mark v with a leopold 10x scope. smooooooth rifle.


Well fuck yeah!
Gravdigr • May 10, 2011 2:08 pm
Big Sarge;732270 wrote:
Some nice full auto weapons
[YOUTUBE]8tPprtkWZzA[/YOUTUBE]


Oh my gun-loving God!!

The redhead w/the AK-47 @ 1:33 has done shore nuff put a rise in my Levi's.
GunMaster357 • May 18, 2011 7:57 am
I want one of these.

[YOUTUBE]JBcq4_EhIoM[/YOUTUBE]
TheMercenary • May 18, 2011 7:22 pm
Gravdigr;732735 wrote:
Oh my gun-loving God!!

The redhead w/the AK-47 @ 1:33 has done shore nuff put a rise in my Levi's.


Hot.....
Gravdigr • May 19, 2011 3:22 pm
GunMaster357;734657 wrote:
I want one of these.

[YOUTUBE]JBcq4_EhIoM[/YOUTUBE]




I have seen your kung fu, your kung fu is not strong...

[YOUTUBE]9ieWrWLjii0[/YOUTUBE]
Gravdigr • May 19, 2011 4:03 pm
A flock of F-111 Aardvarks. You didn't know aardvarks flocked didja?
xoxoxoBruce • May 19, 2011 10:49 pm
Brutus. 20mm is a .79" bore. :eek:
zippyt • May 19, 2011 11:06 pm
I see thats a BLOW YER FUCKEING ARM OFF Action ,
as apposed to a Blow Back action
Gravdigr • May 20, 2011 4:22 pm
And it appears to be left-handed.
ZenGum • May 20, 2011 7:49 pm
Holy cow.

Is that ring at the top front meant to be some kind of sight? 'cause I don't think that is the kind of gun you really aim. More of a point-in-the-general-direction-and-squeeze type gun.

Also, anyone notice Aardvark no 2 is short one missile?
Gravdigr • May 21, 2011 2:33 pm
ZenGum;735333 wrote:
Also, anyone notice Aardvark no 2 is short one missile?


Damn if it ain't...He musta been open for business.
Gravdigr • May 21, 2011 2:36 pm
ZenGum;735333 wrote:
Holy cow.

Is that ring at the top front meant to be some kind of sight? 'cause I don't think that is the kind of gun you really aim. More of a point-in-the-general-direction-and-squeeze type gun.


Yeah, spray-n-pray fershure. I like the sling attachment also.
Flint • May 21, 2011 2:41 pm
xoxoxoBruce;735062 wrote:
Brutus. 20mm is a .79" bore. :eek:


The internet DEMANDS a video of this thing being shot!
footfootfoot • May 21, 2011 3:34 pm
ZenGum;735333 wrote:
Holy cow.

Is that ring at the top front meant to be some kind of sight?

No, that's where you attach the bayonet.

http://yoitisi.deviantart.com/art/Brutus-Jr-153932669
wolf • May 21, 2011 5:52 pm
Bruce sent me a picture of this ... this is just SO me.
Pete Zicato • May 22, 2011 12:35 am
wolf;735590 wrote:
Bruce sent me a picture of this ... this is just SO me.

Perhaps there's an opening?
xoxoxoBruce • May 22, 2011 7:05 pm
Or perhaps payback. ;)
BigV • May 23, 2011 4:33 pm
Pete Zicato;735668 wrote:
Perhaps there's an opening?


xoxoxoBruce;735811 wrote:
Or perhaps payback. ;)


Get a room, guys. Like a showroom. :lol2:
BigV • May 23, 2011 4:35 pm
ZenGum;735333 wrote:
Holy cow.

Is that ring at the top front meant to be some kind of sight? 'cause I don't think that is the kind of gun you really aim. More of a point-in-the-general-direction-and-squeeze type gun.

Also, anyone notice Aardvark no 2 is short one missile?


Sure it is! Everything is the circle GOES AWAY.
TheMercenary • May 25, 2011 10:34 pm
Snake Killer.
glatt • May 26, 2011 8:55 am
those are tiny looking bullets. What caliber is that? It looks smaller than .22.
HungLikeJesus • May 26, 2011 9:48 am
I have the same one, but with different grips... and maybe a longer barrel.
Gravdigr • May 26, 2011 2:12 pm
Excellent.:thumb:

So long snake, we hardly knew ye.
TheMercenary • Jun 1, 2011 4:44 pm
glatt;736856 wrote:
those are tiny looking bullets. What caliber is that? It looks smaller than .22.


Nope, just a .22.
BigV • Jun 1, 2011 7:11 pm
hey mercy... can you give any more information about that gun? I don't know anything about it. But I'm interested.

I'm also keenly interested in the .17HMR (from memory) as well. I reckon that ammunition won't work in this gun though.
zippyt • Jun 1, 2011 11:32 pm
V a .17 hmr is a Necked down .22wmr (.22 mag) wiki link
the pistol in the pic is a Ruger Mark 2 or 3 in .22 lr Wiki link

While a .22 lr is a Fine Rodent killer ( Ask Feetz the Chuck Sniper ) out to about 50-75 yards
a .22 wmr is a WHOLE Order of Magnitude Higher power , energy , and range wise , good for 100 yard hits
a .17 hmr is w WHOLE Magnitude Higher that the .22 wmr Much higher Velocity , Much more energetic Bullets , out standing Accuracy Past 100 yards ( I have seen You tube Vids of folks putting 3 out of 5 rounds THRU a Penny at 100+ yards !!! )
i have had folks that hunt squirles tell me you HAVE to Head shoot them if you want ANY Meat , other wise they Just splatter:eek:

A .22 lr is FAR Cheaper to shoot than Eather of the others I mentioned above and is Generally Most up to the task of taking out most Bunny sized critters

I hope this helps
footfootfoot • Jun 2, 2011 2:12 pm
The pistol is a Ruger 22/45 Bull barrel and it is my new object of desire with cocobolo checkered grips:
http://www.ruger.com/products/2245BullBarrel/specSheets/10140.html
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TheMercenary • Jun 2, 2011 7:05 pm
BigV;737770 wrote:
hey mercy... can you give any more information about that gun? I don't know anything about it. But I'm interested.

I'm also keenly interested in the .17HMR (from memory) as well. I reckon that ammunition won't work in this gun though.

To me, the .22 Ruger is the gold standard for that size of handgun. Pretty cheap, plenty of ammo. I have never seen or shot a .17HMR. I have found over the years and the ownership of over 30 various firearms that the exotic the round, the more expensive they are are to use, shoot, and practice with. The Ruger with a Bull Barrel is the bomb and a tack driver. I also have a Ruger 10/22 Rifle with a bull barrel and can put rounds from previous shots in the same hole with a scope from 75 yards. Worth every penny in cost. But these are both Bull Barrel guns which I think makes a difference. JMHO.

Gun fanatics are like people who work out at the gym or diet experts, they all think they know better than anyone else with similar experience. I will never claim that.
footfootfoot • Jun 2, 2011 7:12 pm
TheMercenary;737938 wrote:
Gun fanatics are like people who work out at the gym or diet experts, they all think they know better than anyone else with similar experience. I will never claim that, except occasionally in the politics thread.

:D;)
zippyt • Jun 2, 2011 7:13 pm
Sorry feetz , but I have to dissagre with ya ,
its a Mk2-3 notice the sharp grip angle , like a Luger
the 22/45 has a straighter grip like a .45 acp Colt
footfootfoot • Jun 2, 2011 7:14 pm
TheMercenary;737938 wrote:
To me, the .22 Ruger is the gold standard for that size of handgun. Pretty cheap, plenty of ammo. I have never seen or shot a .17HMR. I have found over the years and the ownership of over 30 various firearms that the exotic the round, the more expensive they are are to use, shoot, and practice with. The Ruger with a Bull Barrel is the bomb and a tack driver. I also have a Ruger 10/22 Rifle with a bull barrel and can put rounds from previous shots in the same hole with a scope from 75 yards. Worth every penny in cost. But these are both Bull Barrel guns which I think makes a difference. JMHO.

Gun fanatics are like people who work out at the gym or diet experts, they all think they know better than anyone else with similar experience. I will never claim that.


Man, When I owned my 30-40 Krag/Jorgensen (A really gorgeous gun with amazing sights) the rounds cost $1.15 a piece and that was in 1983. a box of 20 rounds was like $25 dollars. I think I had to work like 4 hours to earn that much money then.
footfootfoot • Jun 2, 2011 7:17 pm
Good eye Zipp. You must do that "what's different in these photos?" thing a lot. I also noticed that the rivet in the handle just behind the trigger is round on the mk3 and on the 2245 it is D shaped.

I'll take them both. Can I get them gift wrapped?
zippyt • Jun 2, 2011 7:23 pm
Thats Prolly the Mag relese

Sorry to be a Gun nazi , But ya Knows what ya Knows
footfootfoot • Jun 2, 2011 7:25 pm
Ahh, I don't know crap. I thought that's what Merc had said it was, but I might have gotten addled at the Ruger website.
zippyt • Jun 2, 2011 7:37 pm
Easy to do , they gots Lots of goodys
I have a single six , single action .22lr with a .22 wmr cylinder ,
it is an OUTSTANDING shooter , so comfy , so accurate
Oh and a .44 mag leveraction , i callz it THUMPER !!!
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 2, 2011 7:41 pm
Ya don't need a bull barrel if ya make the first shot count. :p:
TheMercenary • Jun 2, 2011 9:09 pm
footfootfoot;737945 wrote:
Man, When I owned my 30-40 Krag/Jorgensen (A really gorgeous gun with amazing sights) the rounds cost $1.15 a piece and that was in 1983. a box of 20 rounds was like $25 dollars. I think I had to work like 4 hours to earn that much money then.

Yea, I own a short action 300 win mag, basically a necked down 300 win mag. A Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation gun. I love it. I have never shot anything with it. It was more of a dream gun. My dream was always to go on an elk hunk. So I bought the gun on a whim. I put a $600 scope on a $800 gun. I am sure it can do the job but it sits in the gun safe waiting for the day. Anyway, the rounds are about $38 a box of 20. That was my only point. Cheers.
footfootfoot • Jun 2, 2011 10:18 pm
Merc, a guy I met the other week at Physical Therapy just left for an Elk hunt. I need to find out what business he's in.
TheMercenary • Jun 2, 2011 10:41 pm
Man, a guided hunt is expensive. $3500 to $5000 for a hunt. I will do one someday.
Flint • Jun 2, 2011 11:18 pm
A guy at work today (a physical therapist, coincidentally) was having a going away party--he is moving to Alaska. We got to talking about manly man stuff and he told me about a local guy he knows who makes traditional longbows. I would love to get a traditional English longbow. Welsh archers could kill a combatant in full plate armor from 60 yards. With the Welsh archers, the English were known to defeat forces of ten times their size.
TheMercenary • Jun 2, 2011 11:20 pm
Shot placement.

But hey, if you miss a charging Grizzly than what?

I never go into the back country without a gun. Shit, I don't go to downtown Atlanta without one either.
Flint • Jun 2, 2011 11:22 pm
I believe at one point every English male was required to practice archery on Sundays. So, yeah. Shot placement.
TheMercenary • Jun 2, 2011 11:47 pm
Only to kill the Welsh.
footfootfoot • Jun 2, 2011 11:52 pm
Flint;738025 wrote:
A guy at work today (a physical therapist, coincidentally) was having a going away party--he is moving to Alaska. We got to talking about manly man stuff and he told me about a local guy he knows who makes traditional longbows. I would love to get a traditional English longbow. Welsh archers could kill a combatant in full plate armor from 60 yards. With the Welsh archers, the English were known to defeat forces of ten times their size.


This guy has a whole series of photos and how to descriptions. He's made a lot of these.
http://poorfolkbows.com/elb.htm
BigV • Jun 3, 2011 1:38 am
I could totally do that!
BigV • Jun 3, 2011 1:50 am
the violin... not so much. but very very cool.
Gravdigr • Jun 3, 2011 5:27 pm
TheMercenary;738014 wrote:
Man, a guided hunt is expensive. $3500 to $5000 for a hunt. I will do one someday.


Add about $8000-$10,000, for a lot of places. For the biguns anyway.

You can do it yourself for a lot less in Eastern KY. Largest herd east of the Mississippi.

:D

ETA: And we got a few biguns, nothing like AZ or NM, though...
footfootfoot • Jun 3, 2011 6:01 pm
&#9835; &#9834; Moving to Montana soon, Gonna be an Elk Hunt Ranch tycoon... &#9834; &#9835;
squirell nutkin • Jun 11, 2011 1:50 pm
http://tu.tv/videos/switchblade-pelicula or
[LIVELEAK]69f_1304308604[/LIVELEAK]
zippyt • Jun 11, 2011 1:58 pm
i bet ya could Pop a Chuck with That !!
Gravdigr • Jun 26, 2011 6:36 am
Go fast, turn left.

Shakedown run, I presume.
footfootfoot • Jun 26, 2011 12:29 pm
TheMercenary;738026 wrote:

But hey, if you miss a charging Grizzly than what?


Offer them a no-fee card with $5,000 credit, 0% interest on balance transfers, and a free picnic cooler. That will win them back.
ZenGum • Jun 26, 2011 9:38 pm
footfootfoot;742074 wrote:
Offer them a no-fee card with $5,000 credit, 0% interest on balance transfers, and a free picnic cooler. That will win them back.


That would only work if it is a .... bear market.



Thank you ladies and gentlemen, I'll be here all week...
Gravdigr • Jun 28, 2011 4:02 pm
Stop, I can't bear it.
ZenGum • Jun 29, 2011 12:30 am
I smell trouble bruin, and I wouldn't want to polarise opinions or panda* to your grizzliness, so I'll black off now.



* I know. Shush.
footfootfoot • Jun 29, 2011 12:23 pm
I think that last volley put you on the "No Fly" list.
footfootfoot • Jun 29, 2011 9:54 pm
So, I've been getting into this martial/projectile frame of mind lately. Not sure what it is, last summer it was boat fever which I thankfully recovered from before suffering any lasting damage.

The other night I watched some sort of discovery channel thing about paleo/neo lithic weapons and such. So I figured that a fun thing to tinker with as part of my ongoing efforts at earning my black belt in procrastination, would be making some of these things.

Today I made a simple sling out of a scrap of leather and some 4mm climbing cord. I went out into the backyard and very gently, with my better shoulder, shot a walnut sized stone all the way across my yard, my neighbor's yard and up onto her corrugated steel roof. The fucking thing FLEW and when it hit it sounded like the hammers of hell. Glad no one lives there and glad I didn't put out a window. That would have sucked.

Check out this guy from Spain. the second video he is slinging a Cestros, it looks like a crossbow bolt.

Idle hands and all that...

[YOUTUBE]vBh2B3oeKtM[/YOUTUBE]
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[YOUTUBE]UbXCzIunYME[/YOUTUBE]
TheMercenary • Jul 2, 2011 8:42 am
Very cool.
footfootfoot • Jul 2, 2011 9:18 am
Special sling glandes with aerophonic properties.They are physically based on bull-roarer acoustics.

[YOUTUBE]m1TiC7r9Lck[/YOUTUBE]


From wikipedia:
Almond shaped leaden sling-bullets were typically about 35 mm (1 3/8 in) long and about 20 mm (3/4 in) wide weighing approximately 28 g (0.99 oz). Very often, symbols or writings were moulded into lead sling-bullets. Many examples have been found including a collection of about 80 sling-bullets from the siege of Perusia in Etruria from 41 BC, to be found in the museum of modern Perugia. Examples of symbols include a stylised lightning bolt, a snake, and a scorpion - reminders of how a sling might strike without warning. Writing might include the name of the owning military unit or commander or might be more imaginative: "Take this," "Ouch," and even "For Pompey's backside" added insult to injury, whereas dexa (catch!) is just sarcastic.
:rotflol:

some things never change...
TheMercenary • Jul 2, 2011 9:21 am
Holy shit, that looked like it was made out of poured lead shot. That would frigging hurt.
footfootfoot • Jul 2, 2011 9:28 am
On this show I saw, they measured the force of a 1 oz chunk of lead thrown from a sling at something like 95 mph. Then they shot it at a ballistics dummy skull and it was buried about 3 inches inside. I'll say it would hurt.
TheMercenary • Jul 2, 2011 9:35 am
And if you just sharpened the edges slightly it should do the trick. My problem would be actually hitting the target I was aiming at.
TheMercenary • Jul 2, 2011 9:37 am
I guess they put their initials on them so they would know who to go after if you actually got hit by one.

"Let me see that thing! Hell, that hurt."

"Oh, that was thrown by Ralph, he's toast." :lol:
footfootfoot • Jul 2, 2011 10:33 am
Just for grins I ran some numbers using the Taylor Knock Out Factor formula comparing the .308, .22LR standard velocity, and a one ounce lead ball .75" dia. shot at an average speed of 75mph or 109fps

.308 = TKO of 18
.22 = TKO of 1
1oz sling = TKO of 5

But as you say, actually hitting the target would be a prerequisite.

Here's the chart form the article on TKO:

500gr .500 S&W, 1200fps =42.86
450gr .45-70, 1250fps =36.48
440gr .500 Linebaugh, 1200fps= 37.71
370gr .475 Linebaugh, 1400fps =35.15
325gr .480 Ruger, 1350fps =29.77
300gr .405 Win, 2000fps =34.71
260gr .454 Casull, 1800fps =30.22
255gr .38-55, 1650fps =22.84
240gr .44 Mag, 1350fps =19.86
230gr .45 ACP, 830fps =12.30
200gr .35 Rem, 2100fps =21.06
170gr 30-06, 2850fps =20.76
165gr .40 S&W, 1080fps =10.44
158gr .357 Mag, 1400fps =11.28
150gr .30-30, 2250fps =14.85
115gr 9mm, 1250fps =7.31
85gr .243, 2950fps =8.70
71gr .32acp, 900fps =2.83
55gr .223, 3300fps =5.78
50gr .25acp, 750fps =1.33
30gr .22LR, 1400fps =1.33
TheMercenary • Jul 2, 2011 10:41 am
Cool chart. Another reason that LEO's changed to the .40 S&W I would guess. Interesting also the power of the 45-70. I always have kept that on my short list of guns to get next.

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zippyt • Jul 2, 2011 4:38 pm
Years ago when I was a Young Sprat , a Friends Grand dad Broke out his trap door spring field in .45-70, he Boomed with it a few times , then asked if we wanted to , my friend said NOOOOO !! So Of corse I HAD to give it a try , that damn thing Kicked SOO Hard it sat me down and left my shoulder bruised for a week !!!
I have a smaller version of Pretty much the same rifle in .44 mag , Wounderfull Little Boomer !!!
Gravdigr • Jul 10, 2011 6:37 pm
M109 Paladin.

Big boomer.
Gravdigr • Jul 14, 2011 6:02 pm
[COLOR="LemonChiffon"],[/COLOR]
Gravdigr • Jul 28, 2011 7:27 am
WTF, is this some kind of virus or whut?
Gravdigr • Jul 30, 2011 12:36 pm
If you wake up to this...you are NOT going to have a good day.
BigV • Jul 30, 2011 2:05 pm
I disagree Grav.

If you wake up to this it's because you're the publicity officer for several metric craptons of whoopass, and it's likely gonna be a good day **for you**. The people the people in the picture are looking towards--they're not gonna have a good day.
Gravdigr • Jul 31, 2011 7:30 pm
...several metric craptons of whoopass...


:D
Gravdigr • Jul 31, 2011 7:31 pm
I used this for a wallpaper for a while.
Gravdigr • Aug 1, 2011 6:04 pm
[COLOR="LemonChiffon"].[/COLOR]
zippyt • Aug 1, 2011 6:20 pm
Yes those are VERRRRRY Fun to shoot , Specialy from a M79

THUMP !!!
Gravdigr • Aug 1, 2011 6:28 pm
What's that attached to the front of the trigger guard?
zippyt • Aug 1, 2011 6:47 pm
that's a release so in Arctic conditions you can toggle the trigger guard out of the so you can shoot with gloves on
BigV • Aug 2, 2011 12:07 pm
very cool, very interesting. the stock looks like it's upside down from the grip back.
zippyt • Aug 2, 2011 5:19 pm
V thats so when you have to ARCH a shot in ( Notice the rear sight , how tall it is )
the recoil ( Witch Aint that bad , 12ga ish ) still goes to your sholder
ZenGum • Aug 3, 2011 3:05 am
I read a passage from a war correspondent in Vietnam, at the battle of Khe Sahn. The VC/NLF/Enemy whatevers had attacked at night, one of them was wounded and screaming about 150 metres outside the perimeter.

Some Texas-type stolls up to near the reporter. He is wearing a low-slung holster on his hip with a cut down grenade lancher - stock removed, probably barrel shortened and such. He listens in the dark for a while, draws the launcher, loads, balances it on his left forearm, fires once ... boom ... screams stop.

The USA may or may not win the war, but they're usually leaders in the badass-ness competition.
BigV • Aug 3, 2011 12:43 pm
ZenGum;748181 wrote:
I read a passage from a war correspondent in Vietnam, at the battle of Khe Sahn. The VC/NLF/Enemy whatevers had attacked at night, one of them was wounded and screaming about 150 metres outside the perimeter.

Some Texas-type stolls up to near the reporter. He is wearing a low-slung holster on his hip with a cut down grenade lancher - stock removed, probably barrel shortened and such. He listens in the dark for a while, draws the launcher, loads, balances it on his left forearm, fires once ... boom ... screams stop.

The USA may or may not win the war, but they're usually leaders in the badass-ness competition.


I watched a passage from Apocalypse Now, at the bridge Do Long:

The boat moves up river to a surreal stop at the American outpost at the Do Long bridge, the last U.S. Army outpost on the river. The boat arrives during a North Vietnamese attack against on the bridge, which is under constant construction after being repeatedly destroyed by the NVA hiding in the forest nearby. Upon their arrival, Willard receives the last piece of the dossier from an officer named Lt. Carlson, along with mail for the boat crewmen. Willard and Lance go ashore and they make their way through the trenches where they encounter many panicked, leaderless soldiers. Willard asks a machine gunner who the CO is; the gunner replies "Ain't you?" As they talk, a North Vietnamese soldier hiding under a pile of his dead comrades screams obscenities at them. The gunner finds his friend, Roach (Herb Rice), who is armed with a tiger-striped M79 grenade launcher and with it promptly dispatches the NVA soldier. Willard decides it's not worth it to find the CO and he and Lance return to the PBR. As the boat departs, the NVA launches an artillery strike on the bridge, destroying it.


This movie is overflowing with USA bad-assery.
Gravdigr • Aug 3, 2011 5:03 pm
zippyt;747837 wrote:
that's a release so in Arctic conditions you can toggle the trigger guard out of the so you can shoot with gloves on


Thank you sir.
zippyt • Aug 3, 2011 6:46 pm
I got to shoot against a First Sgt that was a Nam Vet , He was GOOOD !!!
we Both ( at 100 or so yards) were Killing a Firdge with Spotter rounds ( White Puff of Powder when it hits ) ,
then he got a gleem in his Eye and handed me some HE (High Explosive )rounds ,
he said Load up and wait for the command ,
we Blasted that Poor fridge to LITTLE Bitty Bits !!!!
Gravdigr • Aug 4, 2011 4:51 pm
Zip, you reminded me of this video.

Highlights: "Run motherfucker!!" & "Holee Sheeeeeittt!!!"

[YOUTUBE]jhKKJ4UQ3_A[/YOUTUBE]
zippyt • Aug 4, 2011 6:06 pm
Grav , that looks like fun ,
once when we were at the Stumps ( 29 Palms) doing a Big Demo shoot we had a 150lb tank mine left that needed to be Sploded ,
we took the Pressure fuse out of it ,
Put in a Blasting cap with a LONG wire ,
then we put a 55 gallon steel drum on top and filled it with rocks ,
backed WAAAAY Off and set that Byotch off ,
BOOOOOOOOM !!!!!!!!
the drum came down a While Later ( whell parts of it at Least )
Funny enough no rocks though
TheMercenary • Aug 4, 2011 8:30 pm
Gravdigr;747019 wrote:
WTF, is this some kind of virus or whut?

I don't care, as long as he reaches out there and kills the mother fuker..... Well done. The liberal side of Americans with Disabilities Act should be proud. If they are not it exposes their real feelings ...........
Gravdigr • Aug 5, 2011 4:27 pm
TheMercenary;748625 wrote:
as long as he reaches out there and kills the mother fuker....


Word.

:lol2:
ZenGum • Aug 6, 2011 3:06 am
Are you telling me that a guy with a below the knee amputation can deployed on active duty? Or am I reading too much into this?
TheMercenary • Aug 6, 2011 8:20 am
ZenGum;748827 wrote:
Are you telling me that a guy with a below the knee amputation can deployed on active duty? Or am I reading too much into this?

Nope, they are deploying select members of SOF back to theater. They have put so much money into training and making these guys good at what they do they are letting them go back on AD. Depending on your specialty they will let you stay and make you non-deployable. I knew a Doc on AD who had a partial arm amputation that stayed on AD to retirement, he was an endocrinologist.

So far, the Army has treated nearly 600 service members who have come back from Iraq or Afghanistan without an arm, leg, hand or foot. Thirty-one have gone back to active duty, and no one who asked to remain in the service has been discharged, Arata said.

Most of those who return to active duty are assigned to instructor or desk jobs away from combat. Only a few _ the Army doesn't keep track of exactly how many _ have returned to the war zone, and only at their insistence, Arata said.

To go back into the war zone, they have to prove they can do the job without putting themselves or others at risk.

One amputee who returned to combat in Iraq, Maj. David Rozelle, is now helping design the amputee program at Walter Reed Medical Center in Washington. He has counted seven other amputees who have lost at least part of a hand or foot and have gone back to combat in Iraq.

The 34-year-old from Austin, Texas, said he felt duty-bound to return after losing his right foot to a land mine in Iraq.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070530/amputee-soldiers/
Gravdigr • Aug 7, 2011 6:44 am
Fuckin' A.
ZenGum • Aug 7, 2011 10:05 pm
So, if a chap loses a foot to a landmine, and gets a good replacement, and goes back on active duty, and gets wounded in his artificial foot ... does he get another purple heart? Is it logged as equipment damage?

If he damages the foot, is it damaging military property or a self-inflicted wound?

Don't mind me, just being silly.
sexobon • Aug 8, 2011 2:35 am
ZenGum;749063 wrote:
So, if a chap loses a foot to a landmine, and gets a good replacement, and goes back on active duty, and gets wounded in his artificial foot ... does he get another purple heart? Is it logged as equipment damage?

Maybe he should get the Purple Artificial Heart.
footfootfoot • Aug 9, 2011 7:05 pm
I think Wolf was asking about one of these.
TheMercenary • Aug 9, 2011 8:54 pm
:lol: Good questions. Knowing the Army as I do they would prob give him an Article 15 for destroying government property.....
zippyt • Aug 9, 2011 11:23 pm
I saw 3-4 dudes get written up for getting tattoos that got infected and a few for sun burning their scalps , Hell I saw a dud in the Air force get written up for shaveing his head ( well actualy we did , but he was willing )
footfootfoot • Aug 10, 2011 11:18 am
zippyt;749396 wrote:
I saw 3-4 dudes get written up for getting tattoos that got infected and a few for sun burning their scalps , Hell I saw a dud in the Air force get written up for shaveing his head ( well actualy we did , but he was willing )


Serves 'em right for not wearing their headcover.
;)
GunMaster357 • Aug 25, 2011 4:37 am
Want
TheMercenary • Aug 25, 2011 6:58 am
is that a tazer as well? Interesting.
sullage • Aug 25, 2011 1:31 pm
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Gravdigr • Aug 25, 2011 4:41 pm
I wanna hear that guy say "Moose & squirrel" sooooo bad...
Gravdigr • Aug 25, 2011 4:42 pm
Smaller wet jugs, but, more of them...

Behold: The Marine Ka-Bar.

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Perry Winkle • Sep 1, 2011 2:29 pm
Gravdigr;752676 wrote:
Smaller wet jugs, but, more of them...

Behold: The Marine Ka-Bar.



The cutting contests I'm familiar with award 0 points if you don't cut all of the bottles you line up cleanly in two. There were at least three that he didn't quite get through.
footfootfoot • Sep 1, 2011 2:50 pm
As I recall, "close" only counts in Horse Shoes, Hand Grenades, and Hydrogen Bombs.
Gravdigr • Sep 1, 2011 5:01 pm
...and body odor.
Gravdigr • Sep 22, 2011 1:11 pm
Here's one where close don't even enter into it.

The B-52.

Maiden flight: April 1952

Planned retirement: 2045

Largest aircraft with air-to-air combat kills.

Holds the record for longest distance flown for a combat mission. On Sept. 2, 1996 two B-52Hs took off from Andersen AFB, Guam headed for downtown Baghdad. A round trip of 35 hours and 16,000 miles (non-stop mind you).

Of the original 744 aircraft built, 94 were still in operation as of April 2011.

[SIZE="1"][COLOR="Silver"]All info from Wikipedia[/COLOR][/SIZE]
BigV • Sep 22, 2011 2:17 pm
that is one cool weapon. I've had the opportunity to see them up close, they're really big.. one interesting trivia bit... by design, the wings are able to flex enough that the tip can move through an arc six feet long. wow.
Gravdigr • Oct 6, 2011 10:20 am
I couldn't find a better thread, so...The Rules of Gunfighting. [SIZE="1"]The redaction was an attrribution, but, I found these statements attributed to just about everybody who has ever written on the subject, when I searched, so, I blakt 'em. [/SIZE]
Gravdigr • Oct 6, 2011 10:21 am
There was one more 'rule' I cropped out:

"The police carry guns to protect themselves, not you."
Gravdigr • Oct 9, 2011 4:48 pm
I put this here, because, if'n a Marine ain't a weapon, then...WTF is?

Oo-RAH!!

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Gravdigr • Oct 9, 2011 4:48 pm
I'm kinda impressed with Granny, too.
classicman • Oct 9, 2011 6:11 pm
Very nice. I too am impressed with both of them.
zippyt • Oct 9, 2011 10:22 pm
That right there is Hard Corp !!!
Well done ,
Ive Had to stand at Parade rest and snap to attention and salute for like 4 hrs at a Time , i can tell you it fucking wears on you !

The Marines that stand at the Gate at Coronado ( cali) do 8 hr shifts
Gravdigr • Oct 11, 2011 4:38 pm
:lol2: It's bigger than the gun. And that ain't no little gun.
zippyt • Oct 11, 2011 5:49 pm
Thats back when a Cell phone was the size of a Toaster
ZenGum • Oct 11, 2011 7:46 pm
LOLs indeed. I wonder if it makes realistic " piieeww piiieeww" noises too.
zippyt • Oct 11, 2011 10:38 pm
they done got better and smaller nowa days
Gravdigr • Oct 18, 2011 4:21 pm
The M249 SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon). (Am I correct?)

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Ya reckon they call this guy 'Preacher'?
classicman • Oct 18, 2011 4:24 pm
nope, they call him Pastor
zippyt • Oct 18, 2011 5:33 pm
They were just introducing the SAW when i was getting out of the USMC,
it was the last fully auto firearm i got to shoot ( in the Marines) ,
200 round assault pac loaded with nothing but tracers ,
selector set to 1000 rounds a Minet ,
RRRRRRRRUUUUUPPP !!!!!!!
it was like a Fricken Lazer !!!
Gravdigr • Oct 19, 2011 2:16 pm
1000 rpm...That is some rock-n-roll goodness right there.
TheMercenary • Oct 19, 2011 7:22 pm
Gravdigr;764887 wrote:
The M249 SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon). (Am I correct?)

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Ya reckon they call this guy 'Preacher'?
Very unusual for an Air Force guy, unless he was a Para.
footfootfoot • Oct 19, 2011 8:36 pm
how can you tell he's AF? /dumb question just saw the wings
HungLikeJesus • Oct 19, 2011 11:39 pm
He's the pastor, and that's his pastorizor.
zippyt • Oct 20, 2011 12:15 am
if he keeps fireing that weapon with the ammo belt laying in the sand he wont be Pasturizing any thing !!
ZenGum • Oct 20, 2011 2:19 am
The only gun ... who could ever reach me
Was the gun of a preacher man
The only gun ... who could ever teach me
Was the gun of a preacher man...
Gravdigr • Oct 20, 2011 4:44 pm
:jig::jig::jig:

FTW!!!
ZenGum • Oct 20, 2011 8:11 pm
Thanks, Grav, here all week, try the buffalo flambe'.
TheMercenary • Oct 20, 2011 8:15 pm
footfootfoot;765368 wrote:
how can you tell he's AF? /dumb question just saw the wings
Big Sarge • Oct 23, 2011 8:07 am
He's probably on an ALO team or Security Poloice
Griff • Oct 23, 2011 9:58 am
Gravdigr;765243 wrote:
1000 rpm...That is some rock-n-roll goodness right there.


That is a lot of ammo humping.
Gravdigr • Nov 4, 2011 5:17 pm
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ZenGum • Nov 4, 2011 7:08 pm
"Hey, Big Bopper, bet ya fifty bucks you can't land on the deck of that carrier down there!"
classicman • Nov 4, 2011 7:32 pm
"Oh yeh, Hold mah beer, hehehe."
HungLikeJesus • Nov 4, 2011 7:43 pm
That's a case of "a picture is worth a billion, billion dollars."
TheMercenary • Nov 5, 2011 5:32 am
sweet.
Gravdigr • Nov 5, 2011 3:22 pm
I'm picturing the Chinese fire drill that would be happening on the flight deck if that B.U.F.F. came in.:lol2:


ETA: What you never want to hear a B-52 pilot say: "Hey y'all, watch this!"
footfootfoot • Nov 5, 2011 6:58 pm
I just shut down two of my engines. Where's that joke?
Gravdigr • Nov 10, 2011 2:45 pm
Happy Birthday USMC!!

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footfootfoot • Nov 10, 2011 2:59 pm
Something is wrong with that photo

Her belt buckle is too high and too big, what is she a rodeo champ?
infinite monkey • Nov 10, 2011 3:00 pm
It's redundant?
GunMaster357 • Nov 10, 2011 4:03 pm
McBros .95. Fires the .950 JDJ.... No error, I repeat .950 caliber.

It's not a rifle, it's a fucking portable cannon!

Must kick like a mule on steroïds...
infinite monkey • Nov 10, 2011 4:06 pm
N'yeah n'yeah. I forgot to tell y'all. I shot a big old gun when I was down at my brother's place in HH. My dad and brothers were shooting. Let me try!

It was a .22?????? Does that make sense or is more description needed.

Anyway, I'd shot my dad's rifle when I was a kid, at the Fish and Game, but this was totally new.

I shot at a can. I missed, many times.
Gravdigr • Nov 10, 2011 4:55 pm
footfootfoot;771732 wrote:
Something is wrong with that photo


I was wondering about the long(ish) nails, and the fair amount of eyeliner/shadow...
Gravdigr • Nov 10, 2011 4:56 pm
GunMaster357;771759 wrote:
McBros .95. Fires the .950 JDJ.... No error, I repeat .950 caliber...


J. F. C!
zippyt • Nov 10, 2011 4:56 pm
Shes a Drill instructor,
she can were as Big a belt buckle as she wants ,
and as Big a Cover ( hat ) as she wants

Hey do you Know why DIs Covers have such a Big brim ??
so when a recruit does some thing Silly ( and they ALL WAYS DO )
they can duck their head and Laugh !!!
Gravdigr • Nov 10, 2011 5:34 pm
She can P.T. me til I fucking die.
Gravdigr • Nov 10, 2011 5:34 pm
And she prolly could, too.
ZenGum • Nov 10, 2011 9:53 pm
Gravdigr;771807 wrote:
She can P.T. me til I die fucking.


Gravdigr;771809 wrote:
And she prolly could, too.


Your grammar is a bit off. ;)

I'm tempted to make some reference to making a sandwich, but if she ever got to hear of it ... :bolt:
HungLikeJesus • Nov 10, 2011 10:07 pm
GunMaster357;771759 wrote:
McBros .95. Fires the .950 JDJ.... No error, I repeat .950 caliber.

...


I wonder what it cost per round.
ZenGum • Nov 10, 2011 10:11 pm
HungLikeJesus;771876 wrote:
I wonder what it cost per round.


Including the shoulder reconstruction?

What are they shooting, stegasauruses?
ZenGum • Nov 11, 2011 3:40 am
Truly cool weapons. :cool::cool::cool:

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TheMercenary • Nov 11, 2011 8:23 am
Gravdigr;771807 wrote:
She can P.T. me til I fucking die.
Talk about a ball buster, I wouldn't let a rabid dog near me either. No matter how good it looks. :D
GunMaster357 • Nov 11, 2011 8:23 am
HungLikeJesus;771876 wrote:
I wonder what it cost per round.


40 USD per round
8000+ USD for the "rifle" depending on options.
Weight between 80 and 110 pounds depending on options.
TheMercenary • Nov 11, 2011 8:24 am
Who would have the guts to shoot the damm thing?
footfootfoot • Nov 11, 2011 1:33 pm
Thus, they are largely "range queens"&#8212;rifles that are brought to the range for a fun time, but not usually used for hunting or other "more practical" uses. Additionally, the cost of owning and operating such a firearm is beyond most shooters; the rifles cost ~US$8,000, loaded cartridges are $40 each, and the individual lathe-turned bronze bullets are $10 apiece.[4]


The cartridge propels its 3,600 gr (230 g) bullet at approximately 2,200 ft/s (670 m/s). This yields a muzzle energy of 38,685 ft·lbf (52,450 J)[1] and a momentum of 154.1 Newton-seconds. This kinetic energy would allow the .950 JDJ to pass through several body-armored humans. It is comparable to the original tank rounds of World War One in terms of ballistic energy.
By comparison, the 5.56x45 cartridge, used in the M16 rifle, produces between 1,200&#8211;1,300 ft·lbf (1,600&#8211;1,800 J), while the .308 Winchester, a favorite for hunters and medium-range police/military sniping, produces between 2,000&#8211;3,000 ft·lbf (2,700&#8211;4,100 J) depending on the load used. The ballistics of the .950 JDJ is more similar to that of the 20mm autocannon round, which delivers approximately 39,500 ft·lbf (53,600 J). The muzzle energy of the .950 JDJ is comparable to the kinetic energy of a 2,800 lb (1,300 kg) automobile traveling at 20 mph (32 km/h).
In a 110 lb (50 kg) rifle, this will develop well over 200 ft·lbf (270 J) of free recoil energy if an efficient muzzle brake is not used. This is far beyond the shoulder-firing capacity of nearly all humans, even without considering the difficulty of shouldering such a heavy rifle. Shooting is usually heavy "lead sled" or similar shooting rest, and the rifle is not held to the shoulder because of the severe recoil and possible injury. The rifle scope has significant eye relief to avoid injuring the ocular orbit.
zippyt • Nov 11, 2011 4:03 pm
Who would have the guts to shoot the damm thing?

Why would you shoot the damn thing ???
footfootfoot • Nov 11, 2011 4:13 pm
Because it's there?

Zippy, check pm
BigV • Nov 11, 2011 5:22 pm
This is a cool show of weapons.
ZenGum • Nov 11, 2011 6:27 pm
infinite monkey;771761 wrote:
N'yeah n'yeah. I forgot to tell y'all. I shot a big old gun when I was down at my brother's place in HH. My dad and brothers were shooting. Let me try!

It was a .22?????? Does that make sense or is more description needed.

Anyway, I'd shot my dad's rifle when I was a kid, at the Fish and Game, but this was totally new.

I shot at a can. I missed, many times.


Sorry, infi, we were distracted by the monster-gun.

.22 is ... well .. small. smallish.

Maybe you need a bigger can.
HungLikeJesus • Nov 11, 2011 6:38 pm
First the box, now the can.
TheMercenary • Nov 12, 2011 8:47 am
Thanks F3 for that post. Makes more sense. No one can actually shoulder fire the weapon.
footfootfoot • Nov 12, 2011 4:00 pm
I can imagine the whole equal and opposite reaction thing when half the reaction is travelling through several body armored bodies, but what I am not sure of is how to think of 200 ft pounds of energy. Is that the same a someone dropping 200 pounds from a height of one foot onto my shoulder? And is that the same as dropping one pound from 200 feet onto my shoulder?

In either case, no thanks.
TheMercenary • Nov 13, 2011 5:44 pm
This is pretty cool...

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/article/225821/3/Getting-to-Know-Mayports-New-USS-Independence--SLIDESHOW
Gravdigr • Nov 14, 2011 1:43 pm
Damn, that's a lot of aluminum.
GunMaster357 • Nov 14, 2011 3:10 pm
How many beer cans ?
Gravdigr • Nov 16, 2011 4:28 pm
A regular (relatively dry) aluminum beverage can weighs ~20 grams on my old, cheap recipe scale. Call it ¾-ounce, know what, just call it an ounce.

1 can = 1 oz.
16 cans = 1 pound
2000 lbs = 1 (short) ton
USS Independence LCS displacement = 2480 tons (average of 'light' & fully loaded displacement)
2480 tons = 4,960,000 lbs.
4,960,000 lbs x 16 cans to the pound = 79,360,000 regular aluminum beverage cans

79,360,000 aluminum beverage cans = 1 USS Independence

Did I do that right? It doesn't sound like enough cans...
GunMaster357 • Nov 16, 2011 5:09 pm
Yep. I believe you got it wrong. Displacement means the mass of water that is moved when the ship is floating in water. It is not the total mass of the ship. Also, displacement is measured in metric tons.
HungLikeJesus • Nov 16, 2011 5:12 pm
Any floating object displaces its own weight of fluid.
[INDENT][RIGHT]— Archimedes of Syracuse[3][/RIGHT]
[/INDENT]
Bono, from U2 • Nov 17, 2011 9:50 pm
Back to the other end of the scale, here's a good improvisational weapon, to use on unwanted callers, like Baliffs, Police, Jehovah's Witlesses, Landlords etc. All you need, is to have a first floor window that opens above the front door. When you hear them knocking, quietly open the window, and drop a cat on their head. Film it for posterity.
Gravdigr • Nov 18, 2011 3:05 pm
Your band stinks.
Clodfobble • Nov 18, 2011 3:15 pm
You strike me as being that same guy who came around awhile ago talking about how viciously clever he was to the Panda Express employee.
Gravdigr • Nov 18, 2011 4:44 pm
That "drop a cat on their head" bit might be useful, though.
Gravdigr • Dec 1, 2011 4:56 am
B-1 Lancer

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TheMercenary • Dec 1, 2011 6:19 am
Those things are a hell of a lot bigger than they look compared to those people standing next to them. That is a fish eye lens I think. That plane is huge.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 1, 2011 7:27 am
For what the cost to buy and fly, they ought to be as big as Rhode Island.
GunMaster357 • Dec 1, 2011 7:29 pm
TheMercenary;776851 wrote:
Those things are a hell of a lot bigger than they look compared to those people standing next to them. That is a fish eye lens I think. That plane is huge.


Size ratio plane/people look OK for me.

That thing has a length of 146 ft after all.
ZenGum • Dec 1, 2011 9:06 pm
Just wondering, if there was a fight between an M1 Abrams tank and an A-10 Thunderbolt (Warthog), which way should we bet?

I'm inclined to go for the Warthog - I imagine it swooping down and dropping bombs faster than the guns of the tank could track it.
TheMercenary • Dec 2, 2011 8:34 am
A-10 would win that one easily.
TheMercenary • Dec 2, 2011 8:59 am
GunMaster357;776994 wrote:
Size ratio plane/people look OK for me.

That thing has a length of 146 ft after all.


Image
TheMercenary • Dec 2, 2011 9:02 am
Another perspective.
BigV • Dec 2, 2011 1:54 pm
ZenGum;777015 wrote:
Just wondering, if there was a fight between an M1 Abrams tank and an A-10 Thunderbolt (Warthog), which way should we bet?

I'm inclined to go for the Warthog - I imagine it swooping down and dropping bombs faster than the guns of the tank could track it.


Are you kidding? Google up "tank killer". This is a tank's natural predator. The A-10 is my favorite warplane, by far.

TheMercenary;777079 wrote:
A-10 would win that one easily.


^^^ QFT ^^^
footfootfoot • Dec 2, 2011 4:53 pm
ZenGum;777015 wrote:
Just wondering, if there was a fight between an M1 Abrams tank and an A-10 Thunderbolt (Warthog), which way should we bet?

I'm inclined to go for the Warthog - I imagine it swooping down and dropping bombs faster than the guns of the tank could track it.


Sounds like you and my son have been hanging out. Either that or your're 8.
ZenGum • Dec 2, 2011 6:40 pm
Well, it's not like I was making sound effects as i imagined the battle. Much.

I was wondering because the Abrams is considered to be the toughest tank around at present. What if we limit the A-10 to only using its main gun, no rockets or bombs? Would that make it an even fight?
zippyt • Dec 2, 2011 6:55 pm
Still no contest
ZenGum • Dec 2, 2011 7:11 pm
Pilot has to keep one eye closed.

Any better?
zippyt • Dec 2, 2011 7:39 pm
Not really
30mm of badness

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regular.joe • Dec 2, 2011 7:52 pm
Yea, the A-10 would eat the tanks lunch.
footfootfoot • Dec 3, 2011 10:50 am
Yeah, but what if the tanks had giant engines and wings and two 30mm canons and they one hundred million thousand billion feet per year?

Alright, guess who I sound like?


Seriously though the A 10 is an amazing plane. For comparison to another amazing plane, the P-51 Mustang, check out


General characteristics - P-51
Crew: 1
Length: 32 ft 3 in (9.83 m)
Wingspan: 37 ft 0 in (11.28 m)
Height: 13 ft 4½ in (4.08 m:tail wheel on ground, vertical propeller blade.)
Wing area: 235 ft² (21.83 m²)
[COLOR="Red"]Empty weight: 7,635 lb (3,465 kg)[/COLOR]
Loaded weight: 9,200 lb (4,175 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 12,100 lb (5,490 kg)

General characteristics - A-10
Crew: 1
Length: 53 ft 4 in (16.26 m)
Wingspan: 57 ft 6 in (17.53 m)
Height: 14 ft 8 in (4.47 m)
Wing area: 506 ft² (47.0 m²)
[COLOR="red"]Empty weight: 24,959 lb (11,321 kg)[/COLOR]
Loaded weight: 30,384 lb (13,782 kg) On CAS mission: 47,094 lb (21,361 kg)
On anti-armor mission: 42,071 lb (19,083 kg)

Max takeoff weight: 50,000 lb (23,000 kg)

Performance - P-51
[COLOR="red"]Recommended Mach limit 0.8[/COLOR]
[COLOR="red"]Maximum speed: 437 mph[/COLOR] (703 km/h) at 25,000 ft (7,600 m)
Cruise speed: 362 mph (580 km/h)
Stall speed: 100 mph (160 km/h)
[COLOR="red"]Range: 1,650 mi (2,755 km) with external tanks[/COLOR]
Service ceiling: 41,900 ft (12,800 m)
Rate of climb: 3,200 ft/min (16.3 m/s)
Wing loading: 39 lb/ft² (192 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.18 hp/lb (300 W/kg)
Lift-to-drag ratio: 14.6


Performance - A-10
[COLOR="red"]Never exceed speed: 450 knots (518 mph[/COLOR],[88] 833 km/h) at 5,000 ft (1,500 m) with 18 Mk 82 bombs[89]
[COLOR="red"]Maximum speed: 381 knots (439 mph[/COLOR], 706 km/h) at sea level, clean[88]
Cruise speed: 300 knots (340 mph, 560 km/h)
Stall speed: 120 knots (138 mph, 220 km/h) [90]
[COLOR="red"]Combat radius:
[/COLOR]On CAS mission: 250 nmi (288 mi, 460 km) at 1.88 hour single-engine loiter at 5,000 ft (1,500 m), 10 min combat
On anti-armor mission: 252 nmi (290 mi, 467 km), 40 nm (45 mi, 75 km)) sea-level penetration and exit, 30 min combat
Ferry range: 2,240 nmi (2,580 mi, 4,150 km) with 50 knot (55 mph, 90 km/h) headwinds, 20 minutes reserve
Service ceiling: 45,000 ft (13,700 m)
Rate of climb: 6,000 ft/min (30 m/s)
Wing loading: 99 lb/ft² (482 kg/m²)
Thrust/weight: 0.36
Lamplighter • Dec 3, 2011 11:04 am
General characteristics - P-51
[COLOR="Red"]Cost: $51,000[/COLOR]

General characteristics - A-10
[COLOR="Red"]Cost: $ 156,000,000[/COLOR]

:eek:
Gravdigr • Dec 3, 2011 5:24 pm
Lamplighter;777402 wrote:
General characteristics - P-51
[COLOR="Red"]Cost: $51,000---in 1945 dollars[/COLOR]

General characteristics - A-10
[COLOR="Red"]Cost: $ 156,000,000[/COLOR]

:eek:


Wikipedia lists the A-10 at only $11.8 million each. In 1994 dollars.
ZenGum • Dec 3, 2011 5:50 pm
From Foot's post:

Mustang carries maybe 700 kilos of munitions.

Thunderbolt carries up to 10,000 kilos.

Just a whole different league, really.
footfootfoot • Dec 3, 2011 6:08 pm
Oh yeah. What is interesting is when you look at two similarly sized planes, with similar top speeds, despite one of them having fucking ginormous engines it makes you think "There must be some reason for that."

ch'yeah. 10,000 kilos of reasons

I heard the plane described as a canon with a plane attached to it.

someone figure out what the dollar equivalents would be.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 4, 2011 2:13 am
The second engine is to keep the A-10 from flying backward when the cannon is firing. :speechls:
Gravdigr • Dec 13, 2011 3:50 am
TOW Missile

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TheMercenary • Dec 16, 2011 2:32 pm
Lamplighter;777402 wrote:
General characteristics - P-51
Cost: $51,000

General characteristics - A-10
Cost: $ 156,000,000


Well worth the cost.
Lamplighter • Dec 16, 2011 3:15 pm
Gravdigr;777468 wrote:
Wikipedia lists the A-10 at only $11.8 million each. In 1994 dollars.


Merc, I made a mistake in that post. Grav caught it above.

My Google results had the F-22 Raptor stealth fighter jet mixed in with the A-10.
The F-22 costs are on the order of $150M each
TheMercenary • Dec 16, 2011 3:18 pm
I was sort of yanking your chain. Hard to compare costs of something from 40's and 50's in cost to today in the more modern lethality of our combat environs. But I was a bit surprised to see how much slower it was. I have been on the ground when they have flown over at tree top level and I never heard them coming until it would have been to late, if I was a bad guy.
Gravdigr • Jan 12, 2012 6:03 pm
It's been a while for a CoolWeapon, so...The F-35 undergoing the last of sea trials on the USS Wasp.

[YOUTUBE]Ki86x1WKPmE[/YOUTUBE]

Let's see...one of our fellow Dwellars had a hand in developing some/one of the systems on the F-35 don't they?
glatt • Jan 13, 2012 9:16 am
I didn't know anything about the F-35. So it lands vertically and can take off without a catapult. Pretty impressive.

Can it take off vertically?
FloridaDragon • Jan 13, 2012 7:49 pm
There are three variants ... the stovl (short take off and vertical landing) version that is shown in the video (the F-35B), the airforce version, the F-35A that is the ctol (conventional take off and landing) variant ...and the carrier varient, the F-35C ... which has stronger landing gear and a tail hook.
FloridaDragon • Jan 13, 2012 8:02 pm
Short video of the stovl variant doing a take off ... love it when all the doors come open and the nozzle rotates... this is the test flight version with the side open doors ... the first production ones have the bigger single piece door that opens to the back to help airflow into the lift fan :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Xm7_PPE-8nk
classicman • Jan 13, 2012 11:21 pm
[YOUTUBE]Xm7_PPE-8nk[/YOUTUBE]
infinite monkey • Jan 13, 2012 11:27 pm
It's like a giant metal fly!

Thanks, Wright Brothers. ;)
Gravdigr • Jan 14, 2012 1:39 am
The Wright Bros. would run screaming.
ZenGum • Jan 14, 2012 6:44 am
That is definitely cooooool.
TheMercenary • Jan 14, 2012 10:41 am
AR-15 variant .458 SOCOM


http://458socomforums.com/index.php?topic=253.0

http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/AR15bigbore.htm

Image
footfootfoot • Jan 14, 2012 10:52 am
11/16" grouping at 100yards!
TheMercenary • Jan 14, 2012 11:07 am
Did you check out the size of those rounds? Freaking huge. And that grouping is from a auto feed, that is pretty amazing.
Griff • Jan 14, 2012 1:27 pm
Wow that is impressive. Of course your woodchucks would need buffalo characteristics to justify that purchase.
Undertoad • Jan 14, 2012 1:31 pm
It's not for woodchucks, it's for mothers-in-law.
Griff • Jan 14, 2012 2:32 pm
They do get big.
footfootfoot • Jan 14, 2012 4:18 pm
and have tough hides
TheMercenary • Jan 14, 2012 4:53 pm
Undertoad;788014 wrote:
It's not for woodchucks, it's for mothers-in-law.

:lol:

I did a little research on why in the hell they would even make such a monster, pretty interesting. Seems the Shooters wanted a knock down one shot one kill without lugging the Barrett around.
Gravdigr • Jan 15, 2012 2:05 pm
I've not been too gung-ho about rifles, living in town, no car of my own, no place to shoot, etc. But I would love a nice AR in something reasonably fat. Say, .308. I just read an article on the .300 Blackout. Based on .221 Rem Fireball, same overall length as the 5.56.
Gravdigr • Jan 15, 2012 3:33 pm
Little David.

[YOUTUBE]vtlmljJDWxk[/YOUTUBE]
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 15, 2012 9:04 pm
Gravdigr;788182 wrote:
I've not been too gung-ho about rifles, living in town, no car of my own, no place to shoot, etc. But I would love a nice AR in something reasonably fat. Say, .308. I just read an article on the .300 Blackout. Based on .221 Rem Fireball, same overall length as the 5.56.

My AR-15 take 7.62 x 39.
ZenGum • Jan 15, 2012 11:24 pm
Little David? Meet Goliath:

[YOUTUBE]goMNAxFqGbk[/YOUTUBE]

ETA: There was also the Davidka, a mortar-like weapon used by the Israelis in 1948 but only because it was all they had. Nothing on Youtube on it, probably because no one has been stupid enough to fire one since then.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davidka

The secret of the Davidka was its 40 kg (88 lb) bomb, which was much larger than the mortar from which it was fired.

zippyt • Jan 15, 2012 11:35 pm
I work with a Guy that crewed on one of those
ZenGum • Jan 16, 2012 12:39 am
Zippy, which "one"? The nuke?
zippyt • Jan 16, 2012 4:43 pm
Yeah the Nuke cannon , it was called Atomic Annie,
he is the Single Loudest individual i have EVER been around ,
ZenGum • Jan 16, 2012 6:37 pm
:lol: Well, duh.

[good morning Vietnam]
Hi, Bob, what do you do?

I'M IN ARTILLERY!!!!

That's great Bob, can we play anything for you?

YEAH, ANYTHING, JUS PLAY IT LOUD, OKAY?

[/gmv]
TheMercenary • Jan 18, 2012 8:24 am
xoxoxoBruce;788278 wrote:
My AR-15 take 7.62 x 39.
Mine does too! it is a Colt variant. Love it.
TheMercenary • Jan 18, 2012 8:28 am
Gravdigr;788198 wrote:
Little David.

[YOUTUBE]vtlmljJDWxk[/YOUTUBE]

Not what you would call "Field Expedient"..
zippyt • Jan 26, 2012 5:13 pm
[YOUTUBEWIDE]dbA9W0eOpbY[/YOUTUBEWIDE]
Gravdigr • Jan 26, 2012 5:59 pm
Fuckin' A!
regular.joe • Jan 26, 2012 7:26 pm
Mongo want one!!!
regular.joe • Jan 26, 2012 7:28 pm
TheMercenary;788832 wrote:
Not what you would call "Field Expedient"..


Yea, not a direct lay weapon system.
Gravdigr • Feb 1, 2012 5:05 pm
I think this is an M249 SAW, but, the vertical grip on the buttstock is messing with my mind. Speaking of the buttstock, I'm hoping it's a false perspective thing, but that stock looks looooong to me, like you'd need to be about seven-and-a-half feet tall for it to fit ya...

[ATTACH]37095[/ATTACH]
Gravdigr • Feb 5, 2012 3:34 pm
Man, you Aussies shore 'nuff do be knowin how to grow some soldiers...

[ATTACH]37162[/ATTACH]

Is that a Ma Deuce?
Gravdigr • Feb 8, 2012 3:10 pm
The F-4 Phantom is definitely a cool weapon, but, in this case, it's the use of that weapon that is cool.

This is from History Channel's "Dogfights" series.

The clip below starts at the 7 minute mark, and is 3 minutes long. (The whole clip is worth watching, btw.)

'Mugs' is just a badass.

[YOUTUBE]KLAnQ8g70is&start=420[/YOUTUBE]
zippyt • Mar 10, 2012 10:14 am
[YOUTUBE]BM-DGaNmtA0[/YOUTUBE]
Gravdigr • Mar 22, 2012 3:57 pm
You've heard of 'flying by the seat of your pants', well, this is landing by the seat of your pants and surviving by the skin of your teeth.

Cool weapon, though, the AH-64.

[YOUTUBE]CUtyUTLeW1g[/YOUTUBE]

"Holy fuck!" indeed.
GunMaster357 • Mar 22, 2012 6:27 pm
Remember : Any landing you can walk away is a good landing
zippyt • Mar 22, 2012 7:30 pm
Dude prolly forgot how thin the air is up there , miscalculated his dive
ZenGum • Mar 22, 2012 7:40 pm
Shallow angle of impact, bit of snow... that wasn't a crash, he's invented a new extreme sport!
Gravdigr • Mar 24, 2012 5:48 pm
ZenGum;803042 wrote:
Shallow angle of impact, bit of snow... that wasn't a crash, he's invented a new extreme sport!


I like the 2160 degree end move.
Lamplighter • Mar 24, 2012 6:06 pm
At minimum wage, what's the number of pay-back hours... more than rent I'll bet ;)
sexobon • Mar 25, 2012 6:13 pm
Gravdigr;803496 wrote:
I like the 2160 degree end move.

I heard they re-designated that aircraft the AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!-64

(written with 64 "H"s)
Gravdigr • Mar 26, 2012 6:09 pm
[Count von Count]64.

64 H's.

muwahahah[/Count von Count]
Gravdigr • Apr 9, 2012 4:54 pm
RPGs are cool weapons. Especially when wielded by a dumbass that can't hit shit and takes out his own guy with the backblast.

:thumb:

[LIVELEAK]163_1327328469[/LIVELEAK]
zippyt • Apr 9, 2012 6:38 pm
Back blast area NOT Secure !!!!
Dumb shit !!!!!
RPGs are Crude but affective ,
Even Untrained Numb Nutz like that can fire them .
BigV • Apr 9, 2012 9:58 pm
Ouch.

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Gravdigr • Apr 10, 2012 4:53 pm
Yeah, I caught that red patch, too.

Bet that tickled.

Dude hit the ground like a sack o' potatos.
BigV • Apr 10, 2012 5:20 pm
Right. People don't splash blood like that. That's cartoon blood. Anime blood. To get a splash like that, imagine a baseball bat swung at a water-balloon of blood. Now, instead of a water-balloon, imagine it's a big towel all balled up, its thick, tough, woven fibers saturated with blood, wrapped in leather, inside a coat. Now how hard do you have to hit *that* to splash blood like that?
classicman • Apr 10, 2012 11:00 pm
Thats appears to be an article of clothing, not blood.
Big Sarge • Apr 11, 2012 3:18 pm
Anyway it goes.....OUCH
BigV • Apr 11, 2012 4:58 pm
classicman;805926 wrote:
Thats appears to be an article of clothing, not blood.


Yeah, I don't agree. Here's a frame a fraction of a second earlier, you can see the wadding/sabot/back part/whatever the ass-end of an RPG is called having been ejected forcefully from the tube, *bouncing off of the man* and flying upward. There's no red clothing in sight.

It's blood, I'm sure. And sarge is right, fucking ouch.

[ATTACH]38282[/ATTACH]
Gravdigr • Apr 14, 2012 4:07 pm
I'm not sure this is the MK19. The sighting system is throwing me off.

But, it's definitely cool.:cool:

[ATTACH]38298[/ATTACH]
Gravdigr • Apr 14, 2012 4:47 pm
Oh, and here's some JDAMage for ya:

[YOUTUBE]OYcXX2vAgs8[/YOUTUBE]
TheMercenary • Apr 14, 2012 9:49 pm
Ouch, that had to sting.
ZenGum • Apr 20, 2012 3:53 am
I just wanted to indulge in a little gun talk, here will do.

Anonymoo recently posted about certain events including this bit:

2 pit bulls broke through the door of a house... They were fighting in the living room and my .45 didn't even stop them. It took a shotgun loaded with buckshot to put them down


WTF? Isn't that exactly what the .45 was made for, high stopping power at close range?
Well, not exactly, it was more for explosive-laden Japanese on suicide runs, not vicious pit-bulls, but I would think the effect should still work.

Can anyone explain this to me? Were the dogs just that #$%&ing crazy? Am I wrong about the .45?
glatt • Apr 20, 2012 8:25 am
Maybe a rapidly moving dog is hard to hit in a vital area. Maybe a shotgun is more effective because of the spread of the shot.
zippyt • Apr 20, 2012 8:37 am
What Glatt said ,
Though the spread of shot would prolly only be a wide as your hand or slightly wider
sexobon • Apr 20, 2012 9:44 am
glatt;807475 wrote:
Maybe a rapidly moving dog is hard to hit in a vital area. Maybe a shotgun is more effective because of the spread of the shot.

That's part of it. Another equally important part is that cops train and drill on shooting to center of mass. Under stress, they'll often automatically react the way they're trained (i.e. muscle memory). This works fine with people; but, with animals down on all fours that aren't facing you head on you just end up gut shooting them and they can continue on for awhile. Not all cops are also hunters capable of automatically transitioning to animal shot placement. If there was any dog I couldn't stop with a .45, I wouldn't be inclined to tell people about it, I'd be reevaluating my skills in this area.
glatt • Apr 20, 2012 10:51 am
What a bizarre situation. You're in someone's living room or kitchen. You want to stop the attacking dogs, but you don't want stray bullet holes everywhere, and you don't want to hit the good dog. And the dogs are probably all tangled up in one another and moving around a lot. That's messed up.
sexobon • Apr 20, 2012 11:12 am
That's what happens when you forget to bring the doggie treats.
Gravdigr • Apr 20, 2012 3:50 pm
Just think...what if, instead of dogs, they were 70-100 lb cats? Going after each other like those dogs were.

I wouldn't even try to shoot them, I'd rather just shoot myself.
Gravdigr • Apr 20, 2012 3:51 pm
ZenGum;807459 wrote:
I just wanted to indulge in a little gun talk, here will do.

Anonymoo recently posted about certain events including this bit:



WTF? Isn't that exactly what the .45 was made for, high stopping power at close range?
Well, not exactly, it was more for explosive-laden Japanese on suicide runs, not vicious pit-bulls, but I would think the effect should still work.

Can anyone explain this to me? Were the dogs just that #$%&ing crazy? Am I wrong about the .45?


glatt;807475 wrote:
Maybe a rapidly moving dog is hard to hit in a vital area. Maybe a shotgun is more effective because of the spread of the shot.


Absolutely, due to whatever reason, shot placement prolly played a big role there.
Griff • Apr 20, 2012 6:49 pm
ZenGum;807459 wrote:
I just wanted to indulge in a little gun talk, here will do.

Anonymoo recently posted about certain events including this bit:



WTF? Isn't that exactly what the .45 was made for, high stopping power at close range?
Well, not exactly, it was more for [strike]explosive-laden[/strike] [COLOR="Red"]drug-crazed[/COLOR] [strike]Japanese[/strike] [COLOR="Red"]Filipinos[/COLOR] on suicide runs, not vicious pit-bulls, but I would think the effect should still work.

Can anyone explain this to me? Were the dogs just that #$%&ing crazy? Am I wrong about the .45?


if'n I'm not mistaken.

I'm with glatt.
ZenGum • Apr 20, 2012 9:13 pm
Okay, I see the point about hitting a vital area on a small, fast-moving target. Thanks.
zippyt • Apr 20, 2012 9:59 pm
Absolutely, due to whatever reason, shot placement prolly played a big role there.

What Grav said ,
it dont matter if you have a Thermo nuke tipped .50 cal auto loader ,
if you cant hit what needs to be hit , yer just makeing noise
ZenGum • Apr 20, 2012 10:02 pm
Not sure about that, Zip. If you're delivering megatons, a near miss counts as a hit.
zippyt • Apr 20, 2012 10:19 pm
a well placed .22 will do more than a .50 miss
TheMercenary • Apr 21, 2012 9:49 am
ZenGum;807459 wrote:



WTF? Isn't that exactly what the .45 was made for, high stopping power at close range?
Yes, close range is undefined, but most exchanges with humans take place within 12 feet or so.


Can anyone explain this to me? Were the dogs just that #$%&ing crazy? Am I wrong about the .45?
Shot placement prob played a part. A gut shot animal can move quite a distance before going down. Anyone who has hunt game and had the unfortunate experience of knowing you hit something and lose it in the bush could relate. Given the tenacity of a Pitbull on the attack I would suspect unless he hit the dogs in the spine, head, or chest/lungs/heart, they could carry on for quite a bit. JMHO.
footfootfoot • Apr 21, 2012 10:51 am
ZenGum wrote:

I just wanted to indulge in a little gun talk, here will do.

Anonymoo recently posted about certain events including this bit:



WTF? Isn't that exactly what the .45 was made for, high stopping power at close range?
Well, not exactly, it was more for [strike]explosive-laden[/strike] drug-crazed [strike]Japanese[/strike] Filipino Muslims on suicide runs, not vicious pit-bulls, but I would think the effect should still work.

Can anyone explain this to me? Were the dogs just that #$%&ing crazy? Am I wrong about the .45?
if'n I'm not mistaken.


I'm with glatt.

the .45 was put into service in 1911, hence the name.

The link to the Moro Rebellion (top link) is a very interesting read in light of what is going on in Afghanistan. Same tactics a hundred years later.
Gravdigr • Apr 21, 2012 4:57 pm
TheMercenary;807645 wrote:
Anyone who has hunt game and had the unfortunate experience of knowing you hit something and lose it in the bush could relate.


That is just the sickest feeling. Knowing you've wasted an animal.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 21, 2012 4:59 pm
Not wasted, I assure you it will be eaten.;)
Gravdigr • Apr 21, 2012 5:09 pm
Don't make ya feel better...
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 21, 2012 5:12 pm
Course not, it's a failure on your part, but Mom Nature ain't wasting nuthin.:D
footfootfoot • Apr 21, 2012 10:16 pm
coyotes, crows, turkey vultures, raccoons, insects. Won't you please think of the scavengers?
zippyt • Apr 21, 2012 11:30 pm
they tought us a Lot of sdtuff in demo school , but not this http://www.sprout.org/site_media/matt/animal_carcasses/animal_carcasses.html
Lamplighter • Apr 21, 2012 11:50 pm
Offered without further comment...


[YOUTUBE]8Vmnq5dBF7Y[/YOUTUBE]
zippyt • Apr 22, 2012 12:01 am
See if they had followed the instructions there wouldnt have been such big chunks left laying about , just a Nasty Pink mist !!!
Let me say EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!
Gravdigr • Apr 22, 2012 10:13 am
Ya gotta wonder just how fucked up this situation was, that this EVER seemed like a good idea.

I mean, 1 dead 8 ton whale + 1000 pounds of Giant powder does not, repeat, does not = a good idea!

My favorite part:

...the seagulls, who were supposed to clean things up, were nowhere in sight...
footfootfoot • Apr 22, 2012 12:11 pm
There's another version of this event where you can hear people shouting "Oh SHIT!" when the whale parts begin raining down. There is also great general hysteria in the background.
Perry Winkle • Apr 23, 2012 6:05 pm
A whale won't burn?
BigV • Apr 23, 2012 6:13 pm
It takes me a forty pound bag to burn twenty pounds of pork country ribs. How big was this whale? Forty tons? And the thing already stinks, burning stinking shit probably isn't an improvement.

MY 20/20 hindsight wonders why they didn't lasso the tail and have a tugboat drag it out to sea, perhaps aided by a bulldozer to get it moving from the beach and aided by float bags to keep it off the bottom until it was well out of the danger of returning to the beach.

Regardless, you have to admit, they did a great job, just not a great job of moving the whale off the beach. I love this clip.
plthijinx • Apr 23, 2012 6:25 pm
footfootfoot;807850 wrote:
There's another version of this event where you can hear people shouting "Oh SHIT!" when the whale [strike]parts[/strike] [COLOR="Red"]penis[/COLOR] begin raining down. There is also great general hysteria in the background.
Perry Winkle • Apr 23, 2012 6:26 pm
Yeah. You can't beat whale confetti at your next party.

I guess burning it would probably smell like rendering fat. So not good, whether the whale stank beforehand or not.

Still, a flamethrower would have been pretty fun.
BigV • Apr 24, 2012 12:23 am
Word.
Gravdigr • Apr 24, 2012 6:19 pm
Perry Winkle;808165 wrote:
A whale won't burn?


I don't really know if they'll burn...

But if you rub 'em just right you can make 'em hot.

:p:
BigV • Apr 24, 2012 7:34 pm
Perry Winkle;808165 wrote:
A whale won't burn?


Sure he will--take away his comps!
plthijinx • Apr 25, 2012 7:27 pm
Gravdigr;806450 wrote:
I'm not sure this is the MK19. The sighting system is throwing me off.

But, it's definitely cool.:cool:

[ATTACH]38298[/ATTACH]
classicman • Apr 25, 2012 10:12 pm
... and everyone near them too!
TheMercenary • Apr 30, 2012 8:09 pm
Totally love that one. A keeper.
classicman • May 15, 2012 12:11 am
[YOUTUBEWIDE]2GhhyUtXbjA&sns=fb[/YOUTUBEWIDE]
classicman • May 15, 2012 12:12 am
I've been on boats all my life, but just watching those things fly makes me queasy.
Gravdigr • Jun 14, 2012 6:07 pm
If'n this ain't 'shopped, dude is gonna have a helluva blister on that thumb...

[ATTACH]39074[/ATTACH]
zippyt • Jun 14, 2012 7:05 pm
That actualy happens ,
[YOUTUBE]VFBAcz16GvU[/YOUTUBE]
TheMercenary • Jun 14, 2012 9:08 pm
Idiot.
ZenGum • Jun 15, 2012 8:31 am
Thanks for the vid, Zippy, that is new to me.
Gravdigr • Jun 15, 2012 9:58 am
Yeah, it happens...it's bad w/the big 'uns:

[ATTACH]39081[/ATTACH]
ZenGum • Jun 15, 2012 10:07 am
I've *read* that silencers are less effective on automatics than on revolvers, because the breech opens during firing.

After seeing this I am rather doubtful about that claim.
Gravdigr • Jun 15, 2012 1:37 pm
Somewhat off topic:

If you've ever been around someone shooting a .22 auto w/a modern suppressor, you don't actually hear the bang, you only hear the sonic crack of the bullet, and not even that if'n you use sub-sonic ammo. My point: You can actually hear the slide and ejector work when you shoot. It's kinda cool.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 15, 2012 7:02 pm
Quite often automatics jam with sub-sonics because they don't have the grunt.
Gravdigr • Jun 16, 2012 2:47 pm
Tru dat.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 17, 2012 4:34 am
$1500
[YOUTUBE]fnyRnjI7OiA[/YOUTUBE]
Gravdigr • Jun 17, 2012 2:50 pm
That must be the first time that particular member of DEVO ever loaded a shotgun...
Gravdigr • Jun 23, 2012 6:01 pm
Semper Fido.

[ATTACH]39199[/ATTACH]

Oo-ruff!
ZenGum • Jun 23, 2012 10:52 pm
Most times a dog in a hat looks silly and comical.

That one looks ready to rip throats out.
footfootfoot • Jun 23, 2012 11:35 pm
xoxoxoBruce;815640 wrote:
$1500
[YOUTUBE]fnyRnjI7OiA[/YOUTUBE]


There is a fundamental problem with that gun. It's painfully obvious. In all their haste to make something that fires and performs spectacularly they are still in the early 18th century as far as loading.

I can load my nail gun quicker.

The whole single shell at a time program is just stupid. The shells should come in sleeves of ten, the magazine should flip open to receive an entire sleeve of ten shells at once.

Hello?

In fact, ammo manufacturers should start thinking about selling ammo in quantities greater than one round at a time...
John Sellers • Jun 24, 2012 2:08 am
Get a load o' dis shit! FRAKKIN' AWESOME!

[YOUTUBEWIDE]_zHfKAV4WYU[/YOUTUBEWIDE]
Gravdigr • Jul 2, 2012 4:28 pm
[ATTACH]39387[/ATTACH]
Gravdigr • Jul 2, 2012 4:36 pm
I'll have a box of number 11 please, cuz, that jagged little jewel is gonna leave one ugly fucking wound channel.

That number 7's got something working also.

[ATTACH]39389[/ATTACH]
Gravdigr • Jul 2, 2012 4:38 pm
Would you say number 5 is the top stopper here?
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 2, 2012 4:40 pm
#12, the ninja bullet.
Gravdigr • Jul 2, 2012 4:54 pm
I woulda picked #12, but I couldn't tell how well it expanded...:D
Undertoad • Jul 2, 2012 5:40 pm
#3 is the ninja bullet. You can't even see it until it's on you!

And it's full of cookie dough.
ZenGum • Jul 3, 2012 8:56 am
Those numbers increase in proportion to how much the spent bullet looks like a flower.
Spexxvet • Jul 3, 2012 9:06 am
Gravdigr;818207 wrote:
Would you say number 5 is the top stopper here?


Yeah, but #11 looks like it would rip the shit out your insides, and might be designed to spin as it proceeds.
Cyber Wolf • Jul 3, 2012 11:46 am
I'd love to know how #4 and #5 got those little stems in their centers. They look like squashed cherries. If cherries were made of lead. And designed to purée.
zippyt • Jul 3, 2012 6:22 pm
CW they are Federal hydro shocks , there is a stem up the middle to promote expansion , they have been tweeked a bit over the years but the design still remains basically what came out in the 60's ??????? WAAAY befor all these designer bullets , they are what is in Both our pistols ,
oh ill take 4 or 5 thanks
Gravdigr • Jul 3, 2012 7:16 pm
I'd prefer to get shot with number 3.

You know, cuz o' the cookie dough. :yum:
zippyt • Jul 21, 2012 11:43 am
Interesting idea ,
[YOUTUBE]-oYl-Lm9a6U[/YOUTUBE]
Gravdigr • Jul 21, 2012 5:19 pm
That thing has a cool factor of, like, infinity!!

But, I would liked to have seen dead flies, as you can bounce a fly pretty hard, and that lil fukker still flies away.
BigV • Jul 22, 2012 2:20 am
very cool. I would consider one if they offered an optional silencer. sounds like a gorram pistol.
Lamplighter • Jul 22, 2012 9:30 am
OK, he has got his salt embedded in a fly.
Now, he needs a fly-shaker or a fly-grinder to get it onto his food.

Did that fellow just have a dumb idea,
or does he have another buy-one-get-one-free ?
Cyber Wolf • Jul 24, 2012 4:53 pm
The humble mango.

[YOUTUBE]2WctDlrMz0w[/YOUTUBE]

http://wtop.com/681/2956505/Mass-woman-fights-off-robbers-by-throwing-fruit-at-them

Eh? No? Okay...
Gravdigr • Jul 25, 2012 12:10 pm
B-1B.

[ATTACH]39831[/ATTACH]
Gravdigr • Jul 28, 2012 3:01 pm
A Marine is a cool weapon. And a Marine is always, and forever, a Marine.

These guys...Cool Weapons.

These men fought in WWII, Korea and Vietnam

MISSION VIEJO – They are a two-man band of brothers – on a final mission.

Both joined the Marines at age 16. Both stormed the beaches of Guam in 1944. And both got wounded. Later they fought in Korea. And in Vietnam.

For more than 50 years, they've stayed friends. Through marriages and births, heart attacks and the loss of their wives.

Almost every day, they call to say hi.

"He's my best friend," says Tom Spry, 86, of Mission Viejo.

"He's like a brother," says Jerry Hanson, 87, of Boise Idaho.

Recently they got asked to help again. So they did what they always do. Said yes.

One last time.

•••

It's easy to remember their names. Tom and Jerry; like the old cartoon. Tom's the funny one, cracking jokes after everything Jerry says. Jerry's the tough one, an infantryman wounded three times in three wars.

Says Tom: "I introduce him to everyone: 'This is my best friend, but if you have to go to war, stay as far away from him as you can!' "

They laugh.

Jerry recalls the time he was shot by a sniper in Guam; the time he was hit by a grenade in Korea; and the time he was hit by a mortar in Vietnam. These stories, however, don't make him blink. It's the story about Paul Nye that puts a hitch in his voice and draws a tear. After a long pause, he says:

"I don't know if I can go back up there."

But up there – Guam's Fonte Hill – is where he's going.

•••

It was 68 years ago this month, July 21, 1944, when these two landed on Guam with 25,000 other Marines.

Their mission: retake the 30-mile island from Japanese occupiers as the U.S. pressed its war in the Pacific toward the Japanese mainland.

This was Tom's first and Jerry's second beach landing, running past dead and wounded comrades into the face of gunfire, mortars and artillery explosions.

"If anybody ever says they weren't scared," Tom says, "I'll show you a complete idiot."

"Or someone who wasn't there," adds Jerry.

"When you know you're going into action, you're scared as hell. When the shooting starts, your training takes over. Then, when it's over, the fear takes over again."

By day's end, the Marines had secured a beachhead. But this battle wasn't about the beach.

It was about what loomed 1,200 yards away, just beyond the beach and bomb-cratered rice paddies. That's where Japanese Lt. Gen. Takeshi Takashina waited with nearly 20,000 troops in a fortified command post – looking down over the field of battle.

From atop Fonte Hill.

•••

Fonte Hill was the key to Guam.

Whoever held it, held the high ground. The Marines were determined to take it. The Japanese were determined use it to drive the 3rd Marine Division back to the sea.

The Marines began their assault on July 25. By dusk, one battered company had reached the top – without knowing what was about to unfold. After midnight it came, as Takashina unleashed his six battalions.

Orange Japanese flares lit the night. Rifle fire and grenade concussions mixed with screams of Banzai! and Marine, you die!

"They just come at you, screaming, with everything they have," recalls Jerry, whose 21st Marine Regiment formed the center. "Waves of them with guns and swords. Some just had sticks with bayonets tied to them."

Back and forth the battle raged, at times hand-to-hand, as the Japanese launched seven banzai attacks.

By morning, the Marines prevailed – breaking the back of Japan's defense. It was a pivotal point in retaking the island but, for Jerry, it came with a cost.

"It's painful," he says, "and you feel guilty."

That's how he remembers watching Paul Nye die.

•••

The years came and went. Tom and Jerry fought at the Chosin Reservoir in Korea. Then later volunteered for Vietnam.

Did they ever feel it was someone else's turn to fight?

"No." They look at each other: "You get in the habit."

So, naturally, in 2009, when Guam invited them back for the 65th anniversary of Liberation Day, they said yes.

They were treated like royalty, dining with the governor and honored at a parade. They also visited Fonte Hill (renamed Nimitz Hill), bearing the names of those Marines who died there.

Jerry named 15 men before reaching the plaque, then ...

"I broke down," he says. "I really broke down."

The one name he was looking for was missing.

•••

When Jerry pointed out that Paul Nye's name was missing, the tour guide asked if he was sure Nye died on Fonte Hill.

"Damn sure," Jerry told him. "He and I were carrying a wounded man up this hill. And just at the top, Nye was shot twice through the lungs. And I wasn't touched. He fell forward, trying to say something, and he died in my arms."

That's why Jerry didn't know if he could ever return to Fonte Hill. But this year, when Guam called again – inviting Tom and Jerry to the 68th anniversary of Liberation Day and the opening of a War in the Pacific museum – they did what they always do.

Said yes.

"I'm glad we went back," Jerry said after returning this week. "You bet. It felt good."

Guam loves its liberators so much that it celebrates Liberation Day each July 21, the day the Marines landed to liberate them. Tom and Jerry again were honored at parades, ceremonies and the governor's mansion.

"I expressed my deep gratitude," Guam Gov. Eddie Calvo said, "for their sacrifice and the blood they spilled for our liberty."

And there on Fonte Hill, officials expressed another form of gratitude, promising to add a name to a new plaque that'll soon go up. Sixty eight years after his death, Paul Nye finally will be recognized for giving his life to liberate Guam.

Thanks to a small band of brothers, now 86 and 87, who just keep answering the call of duty.

Contact the writer: [email]tberg@ocregister.comBy[/email] TOM BERG / THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER


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zippyt • Jul 28, 2012 4:03 pm
OOOOOOHHHH FUCKING RAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!
classicman • Jul 30, 2012 11:07 pm
Powerful.
I attended a funeral today. It was for another decorated Marine who fought in the Pacific. He was the father of one of my best friends. As kids he used to keep us in line by telling us stories of what happened to those who didn't follow orders.
Even at 87 he still held a commanding presence. RPI Jiggs.
Clodfobble • Aug 1, 2012 11:37 pm
Joined at 16... I am truly awed by their lifelong sacrifice, but Jesus. Look at those pictures--the one on the left looks like he could just be wearing a Halloween costume.
Flint • Aug 2, 2012 12:01 am
Clodfobble;822566 wrote:
Joined at 16...

It is shocking. They're just kids!

I've been thinking about this song...
"Our sons need never be soldiers, our daughters will never need guns.
These are the years between, these are the years that were hard fought and won"
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classicman • Aug 10, 2012 1:30 am
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BigV • Aug 13, 2012 4:40 pm
http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/gun-nuts/2010/11/bowling-ball-mortar
ZenGum • Aug 13, 2012 10:23 pm
oyyyyyy.... the shot at 4.40 ... breaks the mortar, sends the ball 1,000 feet up ... with cars driving by on a public road in the background. Ummmm .....
zippyt • Aug 13, 2012 11:10 pm
I didnt need the info that a bowling ball will fit in a Oxy Cylinder ,
BAD V !!!
ZenGum • Aug 13, 2012 11:54 pm
You want me to hold your beer? :lol:
Aliantha • Aug 13, 2012 11:59 pm
I think a bottle of tabasco could be a pretty cool weapon.
zippyt • Aug 14, 2012 8:34 am
You want me to hold your beer?

Not yet , but i do have a whole bucket full of 4" steel bearings that i need to do something with ;)
BigV • Aug 14, 2012 12:10 pm
zippyt;824403 wrote:
I didnt need the info that a bowling ball will fit in a Oxy Cylinder ,
BAD V !!!


bwaaaaahhahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa!!!!!!

ROTFLMAFO!

ETA: video or it didn't happen; local television "breaking news" acceptable, bonus points for traffic helicopter footage.
ZenGum • Aug 14, 2012 9:17 pm
Triple bonus points for hitting the helicopter.


Points awarded after you get out of prison, of course.
Gravdigr • Aug 19, 2012 5:01 pm
Go fast, turn left. Again.

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BigV • Aug 20, 2012 12:07 pm
so which one won? boat 75 or boat 68?
footfootfoot • Aug 20, 2012 2:32 pm
zippyt;824419 wrote:
You want me to hold your beer?

Not yet , but i do have a whole bucket full of 4" steel bearings that i need to do something with ;)

You could mail me a few. Book rate.
BigV • Aug 20, 2012 3:00 pm
a bucket of 4" steel bearings sounds like awesome fun.

but that's like, what... six bearings? the diameter of a softball is 4.5". How many of them would fit in a bucket? If there's a line, I want to get in it. I'll pay the postage too.
Gravdigr • Aug 20, 2012 4:26 pm
BigV;825262 wrote:
so which one won? boat 75 or boat 68?


The race is ongoing.

The USS Nimitz's ("boat 68") top speed is listed at 31.5 knots, while the USS Harry S Truman's ("boat 75") is listed at '30+' knots. You could waterski behind these fukkers.

However, the Nimitz has been running this race since 1972. The HST has only been in the race since 1996.

I'd say the Nimitz has a solid lead.

Interesting to note: Both carriers, separated by ~24 yrs, use the exact same propulsion systems. Two Westinghouse A4W reactors, four steam turbines, and four shafts, giving 260,000 shp.
footfootfoot • Aug 20, 2012 4:27 pm
BigV;825323 wrote:
a bucket of 4" steel bearings sounds like awesome fun.

but that's like, what... six bearings? the diameter of a softball is 4.5". How many of them would fit in a bucket? If there's a line, I want to get in it. I'll pay the postage too.



Oh god, now you've upped the ante. I'll throw in some home brew and maple syrup.
BigV • Aug 20, 2012 5:04 pm
nonononon....

you first. I'll hold your (homebrewed) beer and watch from over here. Speaking of which, I still have your bottle of dandelion wine here. I should apply some of that promised postage to that cause.

did you make the maple syrup? :slurp:
Gravdigr • Sep 21, 2012 2:50 pm
"...factory targeted at 100 yards..."


What, they shoot at 'em before shipping?

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...and just $189.50.:sniff:
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 22, 2012 2:46 am
Of course they do, some give you a spent shell from the gun, too.
Griff • Sep 22, 2012 9:09 am
You'll want to calculate today's value of $189.50. I'm guessing that advertisement is mid-sixties. People wonder why Americans don't save money... I know a guy with 45 guitars, that is probably as smart an investment as anything.

$189.50 in 1965 had the same buying power as $1,370.67 in 2012.

Annual inflation over this period was 4.30%.



http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm
Gravdigr • Sep 22, 2012 5:45 pm
That makes today's ARs a good value.

You can get a really nice, really accurate AR for under a grand. And have enough cash left for ammo.
Gravdigr • Sep 25, 2012 4:58 pm
This could be a cool weapon...if only it didn't cost so much to bring it to a halt.

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Whoops.
Lamplighter • Sep 25, 2012 5:43 pm
That last stop just sets the azimuth for shelling the enemy on the back side of the distant hill.
Big Sarge • Sep 25, 2012 7:21 pm
damn. i'd be cleaning my britches after that one
Gravdigr • Oct 12, 2012 3:58 pm
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Big Sarge • Oct 22, 2012 7:31 pm
I spent 15 hours on the range Saturday going through a ton of 5.56mm green tip. It was weapons qualification and I:

zero range for iron sights
zero range for CCO
Day qualification
NBC qual
Nightfire qual.

Here's pics of the firing line & a my M4 with pec-15 and CCO.
BigV • Oct 22, 2012 8:38 pm
Big Sarge;835293 wrote:
I spent 15 hours on the range Saturday going through a ton of 5.56mm green tip. It was weapons qualification and I:

zero range for iron sights
zero range for CCO
Day qualification
NBC qual
Nightfire qual.

Here's pics of the firing line & a my M4 with pec-15 and CCO.


ENGLISH beepbeeeep!

Do you speak it?
/Jules Winnfield
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 23, 2012 1:37 am
He said his shoulder is sore and he can't hear.
Big Sarge • Oct 23, 2012 1:27 pm
I apologize for not explaining it better. First you fire at targets to adjust your iron sights. That is followed by firing at targets to adjust your CCO (Close Combat Optics). You have to be able to put 5 out of 6 shots in a 3 inch circle at 50 meters. Once that is done, you move to the qualification range where you shoot in the prone supported, prone unsupported, and kneeling unsupported positions at torso size pop up targets ranging from 50 meters to 300 meters. You have to knock down a minimum of 23 out of 40 targets to meet qualification. Then you have to shoot NBC (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical). This is firing wearing your gas mask at 20 pop up targets. For nite fire, you shoot at 30 pop up targets at night that have a blinking light to simulate a muzzle flash. To aid you, you are wearing NVG (Night Vision Goggles) and you have a PEC-15 (this is an infrared laser aiming device).

It is just a long day and into the night of shooting.
toranokaze • Oct 23, 2012 8:33 pm
One of my personal favorites
Griff • Oct 23, 2012 9:31 pm
You might like what my old fencing buddy does...
http://www.rockwellclassicalfencing.com/index.html
BigV • Oct 24, 2012 1:23 am
Big Sarge;835380 wrote:
I apologize for not explaining it better. First you fire at targets to adjust your iron sights. That is followed by firing at targets to adjust your CCO (Close Combat Optics). You have to be able to put 5 out of 6 shots in a 3 inch circle at 50 meters. Once that is done, you move to the qualification range where you shoot in the prone supported, prone unsupported, and kneeling unsupported positions at torso size pop up targets ranging from 50 meters to 300 meters. You have to knock down a minimum of 23 out of 40 targets to meet qualification. Then you have to shoot NBC (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical). This is firing wearing your gas mask at 20 pop up targets. For nite fire, you shoot at 30 pop up targets at night that have a blinking light to simulate a muzzle flash. To aid you, you are wearing NVG (Night Vision Goggles) and you have a PEC-15 (this is an infrared laser aiming device).

It is just a long day and into the night of shooting.


Wow. That *is* a lot of "green tip". Wow. "...300 meters" Really? and not with a specialized sniper weapong? That's very impressive. Thanks for the expanded explanation Sarge :)
Big Sarge • Oct 24, 2012 1:18 pm
300 meters is standard, even for basic training. Marines have 500 meter targets
zippyt • Oct 24, 2012 2:55 pm
100 300 and 500 if i remember correctly ,
and back in my day none of that Fancy optic stuff eather ,
Iron sights ONLY
zippyt • Oct 24, 2012 4:07 pm
oh and befor the M16A2 came out This used to happen Quite often ,
In the right pic the top rifle was what i trained on in boot the A1 , the second is the A2 , notice the brass deflector at the ejection port ,
MUCH beterer weapon IMHO , better stock , sights , barrel , etc,,,
BigV • Oct 24, 2012 6:59 pm
very interesting (and funny, unless it's your shirt)
Big Sarge • Oct 25, 2012 2:34 pm
I've had the hot brass from another shooter before. Never fun. We switched from M16A2 to M4 carbines in 2004. The M16 is far more accurate. The M4 is compact and used for close combat. The CCO is simply a red dot aiming device for quick shots. If you can get issued an ACOG, you are top dawg
Gravdigr • Oct 25, 2012 4:00 pm
Big Sarge;835718 wrote:
If you can get issued an ACOG, you are top dawg


I should hope so...them sumbitches ain't cheap.

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BigV • Nov 2, 2012 1:26 pm
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Griff • Nov 3, 2012 9:35 am
Wonderful picture of form and function! Cool bird indeed.
Big Sarge • Nov 3, 2012 1:23 pm
I heard a new company is planning to build a modern version of the Goose. Their market will be Cannada and Alaska. I think it is great to see old warbirds still being used
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 3, 2012 5:10 pm
I guess the bottom was a little to soft for it, needs bigger tires.
BigV • Nov 3, 2012 11:21 pm
He kissed it riiiiiight up there though, didn't he?
Griff • Nov 4, 2012 7:43 am
BigV;837288 wrote:
He kissed it riiiiiight up there though, didn't he?


Pilot was pretty damn smooth on the approach as well. I'm assuming the Goose can handle heavier seas than a typical float plane?
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 4, 2012 6:59 pm
BigV;837288 wrote:
He kissed it riiiiiight up there though, didn't he?
He'd still get his feet wet though. It's a great plane, and I think Griff's right about handling rougher water. I should think it would be a lot more stable where there are cross winds at water level, that's hell for small float planes.
Gravdigr • Nov 4, 2012 8:39 pm
Rat-a-tat-tat

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Gravdigr • Nov 7, 2012 12:20 pm
Now I'm sad.

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Gravdigr • Nov 10, 2012 3:47 pm
Old and busted, new hotness.

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zippyt • Nov 13, 2012 11:46 pm
Ughh dude unless im mistaken thats an F4 ,
Not old and Busted , Old and BAD ASS !!!!
zippyt • Nov 13, 2012 11:49 pm
Ok so you think yer a shooter Bad ass , watch this chick ,
I Love her Squee of joy at about 5:20 !!!

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And Loading and shooting a single action with No friggen arms ??!!
Color this Marine Impressed !!!
BigV • Nov 14, 2012 12:21 am
that is very, very impressive!
Gravdigr • Nov 14, 2012 11:25 am
zippyt;838816 wrote:
Ughh dude unless im mistaken thats an F4 ,
Not old and Busted , Old and BAD ASS !!!!


Don't I know it...

Poor wording.
Gravdigr • Nov 14, 2012 12:11 pm
zippyt;838818 wrote:
Ok so you think yer a shooter...


Goddammit!!!

I don't ever get to be pissed off about anything, ever again.

Dang, that girl is something else...watch some of her other vids.

Tisha Unarmed is many different kinds of awesome!

Thank you Zip.
Cyber Wolf • Nov 23, 2012 3:35 pm
Not a cool weapon as much as cool super slow motion video of bullet impacts.

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Lamplighter • Nov 23, 2012 4:14 pm
mesmerizing
footfootfoot • Nov 23, 2012 11:25 pm
zippyt;838818 wrote:
Ok so you think yer a shooter Bad ass , watch this chick ,
I Love her Squee of joy at about 5:20 !!!


And Loading and shooting a single action with No friggen arms ??!!
Color this Marine Impressed !!!


Not to mention the pistol!
zippyt • Nov 24, 2012 11:05 am
HA !!
Big Sarge • Nov 25, 2012 9:58 am
I want one!!! Talk about freakin' out the Taliban.

"Man what happened to you?"
"A dolphin blew up my truck"
"Are you sure it wasn't a shark?"
Allahu Akbar!!
Griff • Nov 25, 2012 10:17 am
Shark launchers are strictly regulated.
footfootfoot • Nov 26, 2012 11:32 am
Griff;840404 wrote:
Shark launchers are strictly regulated.


You're thinking of sharks with Class 4 lasers on their heads. Regular shark launchers require only a 3 day "cooling off" period.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 27, 2012 1:17 am
This guy from Massachusetts used a shovel handle on his AK.
Why waste it after he used the shovel's blade to make the receiver. :eek:
Yeah, it shoots... pretty well too. Lots of pictures and description here.
Lamplighter • Nov 27, 2012 10:37 am
It depends on your (relative) POV... a lot !

Daily Mail Online
Damien Gayle
11/27/12

A human will always decide when a robot kills you:
Pentagon's 'reassurance' over fears of machine apocalypse

Department of Defense policy directive calls for autonomous weapons
to be designed so they always need human authorisation to open fire

Promise comes after Human Rights Watch report warned that
killer robots could be deployed on the battlefield within 20 years<snip>

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Automatic death: Samsung's machine gun sentry robot, which is already
in use in South Korea, can spot unusual activity, challenge intruders and,
when authorised by a human controller, open fire<snip>

Steve Goose, arms division director at Human Rights Watch, added:
[QUOTE]'A number of governments, including the United States, are very excited
about moving in this direction, very excited about taking the soldier off the battlefield
and putting machines on the battlefield and thereby lowering casualties.'<snip>

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However, the [Pentagon's] directive does leave the way completely open
for increased autonomy in a range of military robots that aren't intended as killing machines.
It '[d]oes not apply to autonomous or semi-autonomous cyberspace systems
for cyberspace operations; unarmed, unmanned platforms; unguided munitions;
munitions manually guided by the operator (e.g., laser- or wire-guided munitions);
mines; or unexploded explosive ordnance,' the policy says.

That means the Pentagon does not need to apply similar safeguards
when developing computer viruses, bugs or surveillance drones.

As Wired puts it: 'While everyone’s worried about preventing the Rise of the Machines,
the machines are getting a pass to spy on you, under their own power.'[/QUOTE]

And if you believe this policy will be followed the world over...
Lamplighter • Dec 1, 2012 6:10 pm
As a kid, I built a model of the USS Enterprise (CV-6),
and learned a fair bit of world history and geography.
... a very special ship in WW II

ABC News

BROCK VERGAKIS Associated Press
December 2, 2012

USS Enterprise Carrier Taken out of Active Service
The world's first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier was retired
from active service on Saturday, temporarily reducing the number of carriers
in the U.S. fleet to 10 until 2015.<snip>

The nuclear-powered aircraft carrier was the eighth U.S. ship to bear
the name Enterprise, but it won't be the last.


USS*Enterprise*(CV-6) Yorktown-class aircraft carrier (12 May 1938 – 17 February 1947),
the seventh ship to bear this name, served with unparalleled distinction in World War II,
becoming the most-decorated vessel in the history of the U.S. Navy.

USS*Enterprise*(CVN-65) Enterprise-class aircraft carrier (25 November 1961 – Present),
the eighth ship to bear this name, is a unique design, and the first nuclear powered aircraft carrier.
It is scheduled to be decommissioned in 2013.

USS*Enterprise*(CVN-80) "Ford"-class aircraft carrier, the ninth ship to bear the name
As of June 6, 2011, there was a petition circulating online to
eventually name CVN-80 as "USS Enterprise".[1].
On 1 December 2012, at the decommissioning of CVN-65, the Secretary of the Navy
announced that CVN-80 would be named USS Enterprise. [2]
Griff • Dec 2, 2012 8:08 am
Now we can finally get started on that warp drive.
Lamplighter • Dec 2, 2012 2:29 pm
Engage !

Aye, Aye, Captain.
plthijinx • Dec 5, 2012 10:10 am
to put your cool weapons in....

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glatt • Dec 5, 2012 10:44 am
That's really cool!

You gotta make sure your hands are clean, and work on keeping the woodwork clean as you open it. The oils on you finger will stain the wood finish after just a year or so of repeatedly opening the thing, and it will be obvious that it's some sort of trick cabinet.

We never put knobs on the upper cabinets in our kitchen. And even though we wipe them down fairly regularly, you can easily see where we hold onto the door edges to open them up.

Maybe leave a pair of cotton gloves on a shelf there so you can put gloves on before you open it up. You could get a fossilized shark's tooth, or other dummy artifact that you can claim the gloves are used to handle.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 7, 2012 1:33 am
A "microwave missile" that takes out electronc stuff without damaging the real estate. I wonder what it does to people? Certainly might be a problem for pace-makers, probably hearing aids too, buy would jewelry get hot and burn?

The missile, known as CHAMP (Counter-electronics High-powered Advanced Missile Project), fired a burst of High Powered Microwaves at the building, successfully knocking out the electronic systems and computers, and even taking out the television cameras recording the test.


Science fiction becomes reality.
glatt • Dec 7, 2012 8:52 am
Seems like if you just hardened your systems with electronic shielding and good grounding, you would be able to defeat this threat. I thought we already did this to protect us from the EMP made by a nuke going off at high altitude.

Civilian stuff would be toast, but the military stuff should be good, shouldn't it?
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 7, 2012 4:36 pm
Hard to say, they seem pretty confident.
It would probably take out terrorists, and the Tea Party using ordinary computers and cell phones to overthrow the government, though.
Gravdigr • Jan 5, 2013 5:29 am
Tight fit.

I like how the 'little' A-10's engines are almost as big as the C-5's! [Size=1]I know the A-10 is well in the foreground, but, still.[/Size]

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Gravdigr • Feb 4, 2013 6:31 pm
With everyone and their brother now owning at least one AR-type rifle, I thought it would be nice to learn how to clean them properly.
_______________________________

Gentlemen: I present to you the video, "How To Field Strip and Clean An AR-15 Rifle".

Starring Ashley.


You are welcome.
Gravdigr • Feb 4, 2013 6:33 pm
As to why I was looking for info on AR-cleaning, no comment.
Gravdigr • Feb 14, 2013 2:17 pm
The Winchester Model 1897 Trench w/bayonet adapter and heat shield.

This is the takedown version.

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Although the Model 1897 was popular with American troops in World War I, the Germans soon began to protest its use in combat. "On 19 September 1918, the German government issued a diplomatic protest against the American use of shotguns, alleging that the shotgun was prohibited by the law of war." A part of the German protest read; "It is especially forbidden to employ arms, projections, or materials calculated to cause unnecessary suffering". "This is the only known occasion in which the legality of actual combat use of the shotgun has been raised."
Gravdigr • Feb 14, 2013 2:18 pm
OOoooooohhh, post #666, Devil Gun!!!
BigV • Feb 20, 2013 2:19 pm
Interesting. I was surprised to see that the barrel of the rifle did not get any cleaning attention. Surely it too accumulates residue/schmutz/whatever that needs to be cleaned periodically, no?
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 20, 2013 2:26 pm
Yes, but that can be done without breaking it down.
footfootfoot • Feb 24, 2013 12:52 am
I want a half dozen incredible battle cats!

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Big Sarge • Feb 25, 2013 8:43 am
Thunder, Thunder Thundercats Ho!!!!

Remember that line??
Gravdigr • Apr 5, 2013 3:14 pm
From one of them there 'heritage flights' what happens at the end of the airshow.

Top down: P-38 Lightning, A-10 Thunderbolt II (more commonly known as the A-10 'Warthog'), F-16 Fighting Falcon, and the F-22 Raptor.


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glatt • Apr 5, 2013 3:27 pm
Amazing they can all fly stably at the same speed. I'd think the jets would start to stall at the P-38's speed.
Gravdigr • Apr 5, 2013 3:49 pm
I thought the P-38 could do about 500 mph, but, Wiki says it tops out at about 443 mph in war trim. Wiki doesn't list stall speed for the Raptor, but, what with vectoring nozzles and such, I would guess it's stall speed to be very low. It can probably fly slower than the Lightning.

ETA: Wiki lists the P-38's stall speed as 105 mph, so...maybe not.
Gravdigr • Apr 5, 2013 3:58 pm
The Falcon would probably stall somewhere around 140 mph (depending on angle of attack), as takeoff speed is 138-148 mph, minimum.

ETA: Wiki states the stall speed for the Warthog as 138 mph.
glatt • Apr 5, 2013 4:29 pm
Well, they took the picture, so it's clearly possible. I knew the warthog could fly slow, since that's its mission. But the other two jets look FAST.
Pete Zicato • Apr 5, 2013 6:05 pm
Or maybe they took the picture just as they were lined up?
Gravdigr • May 6, 2013 5:11 pm
The 'business end' of an F-4 Phantom.

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ZenGum • Jul 7, 2013 8:50 pm
:lol:


Damn, that's good camo.
Gravdigr • Aug 9, 2013 3:15 pm
AV-8 Harrier. I don't know A from B, nor I from II.

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I know they're cool.
Gravdigr • Aug 10, 2013 6:30 pm
OMG, WANT!!!! (You know, if I had to use one, this is the one I want.)

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it • Aug 11, 2013 11:09 pm
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^ i want a couple of those.
Gravdigr • Aug 12, 2013 5:24 pm
Dang, Traceur!!! Long time no [Strike]see[/Strike], er, read.
it • Aug 12, 2013 11:33 pm
Gravdigr;873075 wrote:
Dang, Traceur!!! Long time no [Strike]see[/Strike], er, read.


hey grav! what did i miss?
Gravdigr • Aug 13, 2013 9:51 am
Heh, not alot!:D
Gravdigr • Aug 23, 2013 10:45 am
F-35, first night time vertical landing, aboard the USS Wasp, no less. The USS Wasp is not a carrier, per se, you understand...it's an amphibious assault ship.

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I bet that is one loud sumbitch.
Gravdigr • Sep 5, 2013 3:56 pm
Any time I see the muzzle of this gun (or a Warthog cannon) I think of 'The Magnificent Seven':

We deal in lead, friend.


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Gravdigr • Sep 11, 2013 2:02 pm
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xoxoxoBruce • Sep 11, 2013 9:51 pm
Is that the cruise ship zippyt is on? :haha:
Gravdigr • Sep 12, 2013 1:54 pm
Surely not...not nearly enough alcohol on board.:drunk:
Gravdigr • Sep 26, 2013 2:05 pm
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Lamplighter • Sep 26, 2013 7:55 pm
Target craft today... fighters/bombers tomorrow... passenger liners next week.

Where will all the hot shot kids go now that the Air Force is turning robotic ?
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Gravdigr • Sep 30, 2013 3:15 pm
USS Ronald Reagan

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xoxoxoBruce • Sep 30, 2013 9:10 pm
It's very heavy on the right.
Lamplighter • Sep 30, 2013 9:26 pm
xoxoxoBruce;877820 wrote:
It's very heavy on the starboard.


FIFY

or did you mean on the Republican side ?
Gravdigr • Oct 22, 2013 5:24 pm
I have no memory of this weapon.

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Gravdigr • Nov 21, 2013 3:52 pm
Well, she ain't in a pillbox, but, she's wearing one. And she does a have a machine gun...

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...I'm loving the expression on her face. Ma Barker-ish.
Gravdigr • Nov 21, 2013 3:59 pm
Some variation of the L85, fyi.
glatt • Nov 21, 2013 4:05 pm
Lovely weather.
Lamplighter • Nov 21, 2013 9:49 pm
His expression: Yes Marm. Well done ! ...[COLOR="Silver"]..You silly goose[/COLOR]
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 3, 2013 4:14 pm
Airport delays are a pain in the ass, and seemingly inevitable. But you can amuse yourself by building your own weapons from stuff you can buy in the airport, after your cavity search.

ATTENTION TERRORISTS.... don't read this.
Lamplighter • Dec 4, 2013 2:11 pm
Not a weapon... yet... but coming soon to a drone near you.

http://www.informationweek.com/security/vulnerabilities-and-threats/hardware-hacker-demos-zombie-drone-hijacker/d/d-id/1112913

Information Week
Mathew J. Schwartz
12/4/13

Hardware Hacker Demos Zombie Drone Hijacker
The SkyJack drone automatically seeks out and hijacks other nearby Parrot drones.
Will this mean trouble for Amazon's planned drone delivery fleet?
<snip>
"SkyJack is a drone engineered to autonomously seek out, hack,
and wirelessly take over other drones within WiFi distance,
creating an army of zombie drones under your control,"
Kamkar said on his autonomous drone hacking project site.


The first 2 minutes says it all... after that it's for geeks only
[YOUTUBE]EHKV01YQX_w[/YOUTUBE]
Gravdigr • Jan 29, 2014 3:26 pm
[SIZE="1"]from TheLibertyDigest[/SIZE]

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They call it the R.I.P. [COLOR="Gray"][Radically Invasive Projectile][/COLOR] round and with good reason. G2 Research has released a new ammo that is taking the market by storm and has gun owners all over the country trying to find where to pick some up.

As of now, the company is only releasing specifications for their 9mm round and they go a lil’ something like this:

* 16&#8243; Penetration
* Up to 6&#8243; diameter spread
* 96 gr projectile
* 2&#8243; grouping at 25 yards (75 feet)
* 1265 FPS / 490 Muzzle Energy
* 9 Separate Wound Channels
* Precision Machined
* Solid Copper / Lead Free
* Defeats all known barriers such as sheet metal, sheet rock, windshields, plywood, heavy winter clothing


[YOUTUBE]skFhKtCo5aE[/YOUTUBE]

I don't know anything about this round, or how well it performs, but, it looks fucking awesome!
sexobon • Jan 29, 2014 6:08 pm
Maybe they'll come out with a version in which the little stakes are made of wood instead of copper so you can shoot vampires with them.
Gravdigr • Jan 30, 2014 4:59 pm
I don't know about that, but, there is/will be a 12 gauge slug version.:eek:
zippyt • Jan 30, 2014 11:16 pm
Easy enough , all you need is some finish nails Tie them in a bundle ( with dental floss) Roughly the size of a 12 ga shell , get a 12 HI Brass ( duck or turkey load )
shell , empty out the shot , leave the wad , put the nails in side , then fill with melted wax , let cool , then FUCK a Zombie UP !!!
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 30, 2014 11:19 pm
Flechettes.
zippyt • Jan 31, 2014 12:57 am
redneck Flechettes.
Gravdigr • Jan 31, 2014 5:05 pm
I would almost bet my balls that the words 'redneck' & 'flechette' appeared side-by-side for the first time right there in Zip's post.

ETA: "redneck Flechettes" returns exactly one Google result. It's almost a Googlewhack. [Size=1]I achieved a Googlewhack years ago with the search term 'marmalade fetish', without quotes.[/Size]
Gravdigr • Jan 31, 2014 5:11 pm
An oldie, but, a goodie...

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xoxoxoBruce • Feb 3, 2014 2:36 pm
Cut you, sucka.

[YOUTUBE]Z_jPlq6oZVQ[/YOUTUBE]

Only $9750.
zippyt • Feb 3, 2014 7:41 pm
Hey grav
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xoxoxoBruce • Feb 3, 2014 11:10 pm
Yeah, yeah, but the boner factor. ;)
Gravdigr • Mar 14, 2014 4:54 pm
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gtown • Mar 17, 2014 1:24 am
2nd pic looks like SR-71s, are those MiGs in the first? (I realize this isn't the what is this thread, just curious :) )
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 17, 2014 3:43 am
Defense Industry Daily says the first pic is, "Cheetahs and Mirage 50s for Ecuador". The Cheetahs are built by Atlas in South Africa, the Mirage is of course French. I think that picture looks more like Saab Gripens, than Mirages, but they should know. :cool:
Gravdigr • Mar 17, 2014 6:37 pm
I'm not sure that the Mirage 5 has canards.

Here's a Saab Gripen:

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Here's an Atlas Cheetah:

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Gravdigr • Mar 17, 2014 6:45 pm
xoxoxoBruce;894818 wrote:
Defense Industry Daily says the first pic is, "Cheetahs and Mirage 50s for Ecuador"....[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]but they should know[/COLOR]. :cool:


They do. They got it correct here (about two page-scrolls down, on the left)
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 18, 2014 12:46 am
I think you're right neither the Mirage 5 or Mirage 50 has canards

Defense Industry Daily.:lol:

I found your picture in Google images and clicked visit page which took me to DID here. Headline story titled "Cheetahs and Mirage 50s for Ecuador". I fell for it. :smack:

If you scroll down to the thumbnail, which is the same one in your link, it's labeled Jas-39s and Cheetahs. So is the embiggened picture.

That'll learn me not to try thinking at 4 in the morning. :blush:
Gravdigr • Mar 18, 2014 6:47 pm
:lol2: Thinking at 4am rarely turns out well.
Gravdigr • Mar 23, 2014 3:25 pm
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Gravdigr • Mar 29, 2014 5:16 pm
F-5 (I think) of the Swiss (I think) Air Force:

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Gravdigr • Apr 9, 2014 1:17 pm
Ringing steel with the Mosin Nagant (91/30), iron sights, at 800 yards.

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Gravdigr • Apr 25, 2014 2:47 pm
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zippyt • Apr 25, 2014 6:59 pm
Rahh !!
fargon • Apr 25, 2014 10:47 pm
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sexobon • Apr 25, 2014 11:45 pm
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xoxoxoBruce • Apr 27, 2014 4:17 pm
The Atlantic is running a multi-part photo essay, with some explanations of how it started, of WW I.

Imagine the logistics of building and transporting these 1400 lb shells to the front. :eek6:
Gravdigr • May 12, 2014 6:22 pm
Hey, Zip? How much do you remember?

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zippyt • May 12, 2014 7:19 pm
Rah !!!

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xoxoxoBruce • May 20, 2014 1:29 pm
Always try to shoot the dusty guys outside. :lol:
BigV • May 20, 2014 8:41 pm
lawl @zippyt ooRAH!
Gravdigr • May 26, 2014 3:04 pm
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The cool weapon here (this time) is not the SR-71 Blackbird, it's the 747 tanker, from which it's refueling.

There is one operating 747 tanker left in the world. It is operated by Iran's air force. They got it, along with what looks to be every aircraft we (the US) have retired in the last forty years or so. F-4 Phantoms, F-14 Tomcats, trainers, refuelers, etc.

Story here, along with a couple vids showing a plethora of retired/obviated US aircraft.
xoxoxoBruce • May 26, 2014 11:54 pm
Condensed water coming off the prop tips.

Aside - the Atlantic has WW I, the air war. lots of neat pictures.
Gravdigr • May 27, 2014 4:33 pm
Great photo!

BTW, that plane (Airbus A400M 'Atlas') is ten feet taller, and, fifty feet longer than a C-130.
infinite monkey • May 28, 2014 6:07 pm
Well lookie here at the pacifist, who won a gun raffle. Why would I get into a gun raffle you ask? Because it benefitted Relay for Life, which benefits the American Cancer Society. I know, it's weird. But I won. Couldn't believe it when they called me. Both brothers have offered to buy it but I might hang onto it. I don't even have bullets yet. But it might really come in handy for the zombie apocalypse. I don't think I would be a good Samurai like Michonne but I bet I could pull some Maggie out of my ass (wait, that didn't sound good.)

I would need to take a class, and I could do targets at my brother's place at the mountain. I'm a little torn. But still...
xoxoxoBruce • May 28, 2014 7:21 pm
Filmed with a professional driver on a closed course, do not try at home.
[YOUTUBE]43vvwB9GNcA[/YOUTUBE]
glatt • May 28, 2014 8:15 pm
Wow infi! Try it out before you decide to get rid of it. Maybe you will like it. I bet your brothers could show you how to use it safely with them supervising, and if you decide to keep it, you could take a course.
footfootfoot • May 28, 2014 8:36 pm
infinite monkey;899988 wrote:
Well lookie here at the pacifist, who won a gun raffle. Why would I get into a gun raffle you ask? Because it benefitted Relay for Life, which benefits the American Cancer Society. I know, it's weird. But I won. Couldn't believe it when they called me. Both brothers have offered to buy it but I might hang onto it. I don't even have bullets yet. But it might really come in handy for the zombie apocalypse. I don't think I would be a good Samurai like Michonne but I bet I could pull some Maggie out of my ass (wait, that didn't sound good.)

I would need to take a class, and I could do targets at my brother's place at the mountain. I'm a little torn. But still...


how freekin awesome! If you have second thoughts, you can send it to me!
zippyt • May 28, 2014 10:38 pm
IM I have handled one of those , WAY to small for my hands , it felt like a toy , BUT if it fits your hand , by ALL Meens get some training , Knowledge is POWER !!!
Besides you may have some fun ,
Newer .380 ammo has some PUNCH to it !!
infinite monkey • May 28, 2014 10:50 pm
thanks guys. Yeah it's small. Great for a CCW if I go that route.

I just wanna hit cardboard targets. If it helps me with the anarchy that's sure to come someday, so be it. ;)
glatt • May 29, 2014 8:28 am
Oh and be careful if you wind up driving with it to your brother's place. Random laws everywhere about how you can transport a gun in your car. Maybe that trigger lock is enough. I dunno.

(I think here in Virginia they have to be locked up, and simply being in a locked trunk doesn't count. I sat on a jury where a normal guy got pulled over by cops and when they searched the car he had a gun in his locked trunk and was being brought up on gun charges. We were dismissed because he pleaded to something, so I don't know what happened to that guy, but I felt sorry for him. He didn't know he had done anything wrong.)
Gravdigr • May 29, 2014 2:23 pm
Congrats, Infi!

.380 ammo completely disappeared around here for a good while. You couldn't find it anywhere. You can find it at various sporting goods store, and gun shops now, but to catch it at WallyWorld, ya gotta be there when they put it on the shelf, if ya ain't you're SOL. Ya can still forget .45 and .223 around here, they'll tell ya they can get it for ya...sooner or later. If ya go to Nashville you'll have no problems, except being a Kentucky resident.:mad:
xoxoxoBruce • May 29, 2014 8:44 pm
Jalopnik has an article about strange high speed water craft spotted on the Columbia River over the last ten years. I'm convince the author doesn't have the answers but he does reveal some possibilities, including Israel, Navy SEALS, and Navy Special Warfare Combat-Craft Crewmen (SWCCs).

I think you'd have to be richer than 99.9% of the population to even dabble in this stuff, so it's probably safe to say it's a government project. Maybe they will use them to sneak up the rivers to grab out guns. Navy? Naw, they be grabbing daughters. ;)
infinite monkey • May 30, 2014 11:02 am
Gravdigr;900036 wrote:
Congrats, Infi!

.380 ammo completely disappeared around here for a good while. You couldn't find it anywhere. You can find it at various sporting goods store, and gun shops now, but to catch it at WallyWorld, ya gotta be there when they put it on the shelf, if ya ain't you're SOL. Ya can still forget .45 and .223 around here, they'll tell ya they can get it for ya...sooner or later. If ya go to Nashville you'll have no problems, except being a Kentucky resident.:mad:


I know so little. So if someone asks me what kind of bullets it uses, is that the same as caliber? And if so does one say it's a 'thirty-eight' in answer? Is that the same thing? Is any of it the same thing? :blush:

Yeah, I haven't even read the instructions yet. :lol:
footfootfoot • May 30, 2014 11:14 am
38, 39, whatever it takes...
BigV • May 30, 2014 11:42 am
it's all ball bearings nowadays.
Gravdigr • May 30, 2014 5:42 pm
infinite monkey;900106 wrote:
I know so little. So if someone asks me what kind of bullets it uses, is that the same as caliber? And if so does one say it's a 'thirty-eight' in answer? Is that the same thing? Is any of it the same thing? :blush:

Yeah, I haven't even read the instructions yet. :lol:


Sell it. [/jk]



The caliber is .380, says so on the gun. .38 is not the same.

This is how you do it:

Infi: "Excuse me, Mr. Ammo Salesman? I'd like a box of three-eighty, please, hollowpoints if you have them."
Griff • May 30, 2014 9:29 pm
BigV;900108 wrote:
it's all ball bearings nowadays.


20 pts for the Fletch reference.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 1, 2014 10:19 pm
July 1st, 1916.
It was the first day of the Battle of the Somme, during the First World War. The Royal Engineers had dug a tunnel, 50 feet deep, extending for about 300 yards from the British lines to the German front line. There, under a German position called “Schwaben Hohe”, they laid a mine consisting of over 25 tons of Ammonal. The mine was detonated two minutes before 07.30 am – the hour of launch of the British offensive against the German lines. The resulting explosion blew almost half a million tons of chalk into the surrounding fields, sending debris over 4,000 feet into the air. It created a vast hole 300 feet across and 90 feet deep.


Boom.. Big Badda Boom.
Big Sarge • Jun 2, 2014 6:19 am
i wonder if they had to do an environmental impact study before the attack? you basically have to now
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 8, 2014 11:20 pm
WW I at sea.
Big Sarge • Jun 9, 2014 8:34 pm
Gurkhas are the ultimate weapon. I met a few working as contractors in Iraq guarding the Green Zone. I think they are some of the greatest warriors the world has ever seen. I wonder why they aren't awarding him the Victoria Cross.
Gravdigr • Jun 9, 2014 11:11 pm
Big Sarge;901183 wrote:
I wonder why they aren't awarding him the Victoria Cross.


That's cuz he's simply another run-of-the-mill-badass.

Just another gurkha.
Gravdigr • Jun 13, 2014 5:25 pm
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sexobon • Jun 13, 2014 5:44 pm
Big Sarge;901183 wrote:
... I wonder why they aren't awarding him the Victoria Cross.


Gravdigr;901191 wrote:
That's cuz he's simply another run-of-the-mill-badass.

Just another gurkha.

But they would have if he had used just his kukri.
Big Sarge • Jun 14, 2014 6:45 pm
sexobon;901621 wrote:
But they would have if he had used just his kukri.


you are probably right. His brother is in the US SF. I wish we had a battalion of Gurkhas
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 15, 2014 5:02 pm
In Leipzig, Germany, a 150lb bomb needed a little help getting off, after being dropped by the USAAC 70-odd years ago. :blush:
glatt • Jun 15, 2014 8:41 pm
Wow
Gravdigr • Jun 16, 2014 1:28 pm
xoxoxoBruce;901723 wrote:
...a 150lb bomb needed a little help getting off...


I know that girl.
BigV • Jun 16, 2014 11:02 pm
Gravdigr;901618 wrote:
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That is impressive.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 19, 2014 12:19 am
I don't even... :mg:
sexobon • Jul 19, 2014 12:26 am
Fancy hood ornament, you have to be careful going through the carwash with them ya know.
Gravdigr • Jul 20, 2014 12:14 pm
Gives new meaning to 'street sweeper'.

Want. Either that, or a bulldozer that'll do 110.
Gravdigr • Jul 21, 2014 6:27 pm
I just read that Obama's ban on Russian manufactured weapons and ammo has already begun low-level panic-buying of AK-47s, and ammo from manufacturers such as Wolf.

I don't see the need for all the hand wringing. Aren't there, like, a hundred companies making AK clones?
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 21, 2014 7:45 pm
Not just clones, they're made under license in at least a dozen countries. It's just the conspiracy fools making much ado about nothing. Obama-guns-sky-falling-coming-camps-cold-2nd-dead-panic-hands
Gravdigr • Jul 22, 2014 1:25 pm
Of all the weapons in the American military arsenal, none are greater than the soldier who will. not. quit.
Gravdigr • Aug 15, 2014 9:28 am
A flying model of a cool weapon:

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Big Sarge • Aug 18, 2014 2:38 pm
skeet shooting at it's best

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=IYT2K6RNeBs[/YOUTUBE]
Gravdigr • Aug 18, 2014 4:33 pm
This came up in the screenful of videos at the end of Sarge's skeet shooting vid.

It's the late Tom Knapp, skeet shooter/paid Benelli fanboy/shotgun trickshot artist extraordinaire. These are pretty old clips, he was much more entertaining in his later years, imho.

Anyway:

[YOUTUBE]Z5uHt4AwYb4[/YOUTUBE]
BigV • Aug 18, 2014 8:53 pm
Wow.

What kind of shotgun is he using?
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 18, 2014 9:24 pm
I'd take a wild guess it was a Benelli. :rolleyes:
zippyt • Aug 18, 2014 11:48 pm
Ive done the shot your own empty shot gun shell befor , not 3-4 in a row
Gravdigr • Aug 19, 2014 2:18 pm
I think the multiple-self-thrown clays record is up to, like, 12, now.
Big Sarge • Aug 29, 2014 12:44 am
Gatling guns in .50 cal that are considered non-firearms. Now this is fun!!!!

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=uY60ceECSgc[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]watch?v=DyEn_xLeAwk[/YOUTUBE]
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 12, 2014 1:20 pm
Something about horseshoes and hand grenades...
Gravdigr • Sep 12, 2014 3:49 pm
Two things:

1. Yee.

2. Ikes.
BigV • Sep 16, 2014 2:57 pm
Lee Enfield Sniper Rifle:

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Gravdigr • Sep 16, 2014 4:18 pm
I found that a little cooler than I shoulda.
Gravdigr • Sep 21, 2014 6:30 pm
Carriers lined up @ Norfolk:

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glatt • Sep 21, 2014 7:13 pm
I've traveled down that road along that very dock.
Clodfobble • Sep 21, 2014 10:07 pm
I've been on a carrier parked at that very dock!

(Visiting my cousin in the Navy. I guess actually he was retired from the Navy at the time, but still had friends who would give personal tours.)
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 22, 2014 11:26 pm
The San Diego mothball fleet in 1946. This was just a portion of the unneeded American ships left over after World War Two.
Gravdigr • Sep 27, 2014 2:34 pm
Russian T-90

Pretty cool video, weird choice for background music, but, some cool slo-mo shots.

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There's a pretty cool little bit at about 4:30 in.
Gravdigr • Oct 2, 2014 3:00 pm
The UMOS – Universal Manual Operating System Pump Action AR-15 Kit

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Meh, it's different. I could see it, if ya had a stack of ARs laying around, ya might want to do this to have a novelty gun in the collection, or something.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 2, 2014 9:18 pm
There are situations where you're not allowed to hunt with a semi-auto, I think this would be faster to re-cock and reacquire the target.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 2, 2014 9:38 pm
I've never seen Tiffany & Co. embellished handguns before.
Gravdigr • Oct 14, 2014 5:02 pm
A C-5 Galaxy swallowing a CH-53 Sea Stallion:

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xoxoxoBruce • Oct 27, 2014 9:34 pm
Weapons of equality... but fortunately we convinced them it wasn't lady-like. Whew, that was close. :lol2:
sexobon • Oct 27, 2014 10:57 pm
Substitute controllers for those firearms and they could be gamers.
zippyt • Oct 27, 2014 11:20 pm
Check this out ,[YOUTUBEWIDE]45uGxJ9K7XU[/YOUTUBEWIDE]
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 27, 2014 11:43 pm
Very cool, but like so much whiz-bang stuff, it looks like a dead battery will put you out of business. :eyebrow:
zippyt • Oct 28, 2014 12:43 am
1st gen , the 10 nuke batterys are comeing
glatt • Oct 28, 2014 8:20 am
They said 10,000 zooms on a pair of AA batteries. Seems like you would only have to change the batteries like once a month at the most and maybe once a year.

I don't care about rifle scopes. I want to know if the optics are good enough for professional cameras. If so, it would be cool if they could fit these types of lenses to cell phones. They are more compact than rigid lenses. Looks promising if the optical quality is there.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 28, 2014 12:47 pm
OK, they claim in a laboratory setting 10,000 cycles. Of course a defective battery would be excluded from the results. And nothing gets damaged in the lab, if it were it would be repaired before the actual test. The grunt pinned down in the third world shithole will understand, when his scope is rendered useless.
BigV • Oct 28, 2014 1:13 pm
xoxoxoBruce;912869 wrote:
OK, they claim in a laboratory setting 10,000 cycles. Of course a defective battery would be excluded from the results. And nothing gets damaged in the lab, if it were it would be repaired before the actual test. The grunt pinned down in the third world shithole will understand, when his scope is rendered useless.


isn't that on par with the same risk for the batteries in other equipment? radios come to mind. even so, in the video, they say that the scope is functional even with zero battery power, likely at a fixed field of view. a radio with a dead battery is not functional as a radio at all. I don't see this as a big drawback. as an addtional point of failure, meh, ok. It looks like a net positive to me.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 28, 2014 2:21 pm
Because 7 Achilles' heels are better than 8 Achilles' heels. Eliminate as many weak points as possible.
Gravdigr • Oct 28, 2014 2:32 pm
Gotta eliminate iron sights then...they can be bent.

Gotta eliminate bullets then...ya can run outta them.

Gotta make the guns out of titanium then...plastic can be broken.

If ya worst-case everything...:rolleyes:
Gravdigr • Oct 28, 2014 2:37 pm
xoxoxoBruce;912869 wrote:
The grunt pinned down in the third world shithole will understand, when his scope is rendered useless.


If that grunt is worth his salt, he'll have two spare AAs.

And anyway, where were you hollering about batteries when all them dadgummed $700-and-up 1x (no magnification) Aimpoint red dot sights were getting slapped on ARs all over the dang place?:eyebrow:

[/ikid]
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 28, 2014 3:12 pm
Gravdigr;912878 wrote:
Gotta eliminate iron sights then...they can be bent.
That's why you should have more than one system, for back-up.

Gotta eliminate bullets then...ya can run outta them.
That's why you get a bayonet too.

Gotta make the guns out of titanium then...plastic can be broken.
Titanium gets bent, plastic is tougher.

If ya worst-case everything...:rolleyes:
Then you see the value of simplicity and redundancy.

Gravdigr;912880 wrote:
If that grunt is worth his salt, he'll have two spare AAs.
Sure, grabbed 'em at the last 7-11 a couple of clicks back.

And anyway, where were you hollering about batteries when all them dadgummed $700-and-up 1x (no magnification) Aimpoint red dot sights were getting slapped on ARs all over the dang place?:eyebrow: [/ikid]
Red dot? I like the red dot. I'mma catch that red dot! Look, it's on the curtain... no, the china closet... wait, the wall!! :bolt:
Gravdigr • Oct 28, 2014 4:14 pm
xoxoxoBruce;912885 wrote:
Red dot? I like the red dot. I'mma catch that red dot! Look, it's on the curtain... no, the china closet... wait, the wall!! :bolt:


Nah, the other kind.

Even used, they ain't cheap.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 28, 2014 10:25 pm
Yeah, I'm familiar with them. I like 'em, but my ass ain't on the line.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 31, 2014 3:04 pm
In 1620s the Swedes decided to build a warship, named VASA. Not just any warship, but a kick ass and take names, 64 gun pride of the fleet. Unfortunately they had it designed by a committee, and if I remember correctly it was top heavy, so in 1628, 1 mile into it's maiden voyage it rolled over and sank. Well this was pretty embarrassing to the committee so they just left it on the bottom until 1961, when the raised and restored it.

A year ago someone decided they should make a 3 copies of one of the 24 pounder cannons and fire one.
To gain a better understanding of Vasa’s tactical capability, and by inference, a better understanding of the tactical environment of naval warfare in the first half of the 17th century.
That sounds like the bullshit needed to get a green light and funding, but we know they're doing this for fun. ;)

Image
the gun weighs in at around 1.25 tons, and about 3m long, and 42cm wide at the cascabel, with a bore diameter of 146mm. With the carraige weighing another 700 pounds, that brings the total weight of the assembly to almost 1.8 tons.
So this is a major project, and they detailed at a website.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 12, 2014 9:26 pm
Lj has a short commute, but after a long day of bullshit, and even shorter fuse. :haha:
lumberjim • Nov 13, 2014 4:39 pm
Yes! I need that
Gravdigr • Nov 13, 2014 5:48 pm
Yikes...Are...are those actually...turbochargers?

They look kinda turbo-ish.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 13, 2014 10:00 pm
I thought they were Gatling Guns.
Gravdigr • Nov 14, 2014 4:03 pm
Brian Shul talks about his time with the SR-71 Blackbird.

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This year marks the fiftieth anniversary of the Blackbird's first flight.
BigV • Nov 16, 2014 10:48 pm
Awesome.

I remember the first time I saw that plane. It was at an airshow at Norton AFB in Southern California. It made a couple passes over the field, so loud, so dramatic, what an EPIC aircraft. The last pass was a real surprise. For some reason we were all looking to the west (or whatever, to the right, I don't know for sure.. .thataway) and waiting for the speck and the sound to arrive and swell and overwhelm us. Then everyone's heads turned to the east and there she was coasting (relatively speaking) in, silently. Then when she got over the field the pilot put the hammer aaaaalll the way down, double rainbow afterburner baby. BLAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMM and gone. just ... gone.

Absolutely epic.

I got another look at one close up, close enough to steal a touch at the Museum of Flight here in the Seattle area. It is every inch the badass up close that every other representation shows. This machine radiates untouchable invincibility.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 17, 2014 12:04 am
I ain't scairt, I got my Big Dick. :haha:
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 17, 2014 1:11 pm
Ever wonder why Felix Leiter walked funny?
glatt • Nov 17, 2014 2:06 pm
I like it. Wonder if anyone ever actually "carried it around," in a manner of speaking?
sexobon • Nov 17, 2014 2:22 pm
I suppository someone did.
Gravdigr • Nov 17, 2014 4:41 pm
Hmm...You'd have to infiltrate yourself to extricate yourself.
sexobon • Nov 17, 2014 4:53 pm
There isn't even a wet wipe packet in there. Those guys were hard core.
Gravdigr • Nov 23, 2014 5:14 pm
B-2 Spirit, B-52 Stratofortress

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xoxoxoBruce • Nov 23, 2014 6:35 pm
$54 million and $1.2 Billion.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 24, 2014 1:57 am
How about a .410 revolver...
Gravdigr • Nov 24, 2014 3:26 pm
Almost bought a Judge (that pistola up there^). Ida got the one with the regular hammer, though, if Ida got one.

ETAA: ETA: FYI, it also fires [Strike].41[/Strike] .45 Colt.
Gravdigr • Nov 24, 2014 3:34 pm
In addition to the Judge, and the similar Public Defender, Taurus also makes a carbine version. The Circuit Judge.

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zippyt • Nov 24, 2014 6:32 pm
Dude explains why revolver rifles didnt fly ,
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Cool site , he looks at some REALLY unusual weapons
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 24, 2014 9:06 pm
Well hell, that's no problem. :haha:
Gravdigr • Nov 25, 2014 4:26 pm
Taurus gets around that problem on the Circuit Judge with a small blast shield in front of the cylinder. If you look closely at this embiggenment of the previous Circuit Judge pic, you can make it out.

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Don't know why it is where it is, but, it is.
Dammian • Dec 5, 2014 1:45 pm
Image
Dammian • Dec 5, 2014 1:59 pm
My precious!!! :cool:
Gravdigr • Dec 5, 2014 3:30 pm
The Picatinny rail is the ugliest thing. I don't care what kind of gun it's on, I hate 'em. Snaggy, ugly, and uncomfortable to the hand.

That said, rock on!
Dammian • Dec 5, 2014 3:46 pm
Gravdigr;915594 wrote:
The Picatinny rail is the ugliest thing. I don't care what kind of gun it's on, I hate 'em. Snaggy, ugly, and uncomfortable to the hand.

That said, rock on!

Hmm... I use the rail to mount thermal vision without dismounting main optics. Very comfortable. Also lower picatinny is for tripod mount. Yes, it's ugly. But useful.
And when you beat somebody with the barrel additional wounds are guaranteed :)
Gravdigr • Dec 5, 2014 5:14 pm
Oh, they have their uses, I know. All kinds of Barbie-gun accessories can be clamped on there. I, personally, wouldn't attach a people-beater to my barrel, but, hey, maybe ya need to shoot around corners sometimes...

:D
BigV • Dec 5, 2014 9:14 pm
Gravdigr;915603 wrote:
Oh, they have their uses, I know. All kinds of Barbie-gun accessories can be clamped on there. I, personally, wouldn't attach a people-beater to my barrel, but, hey, maybe ya need to shoot around corners sometimes...

:D


Meowrr!!!
zippyt • Dec 5, 2014 9:59 pm
this is what Grav is refering to
Dammian • Dec 6, 2014 1:51 am
Gravdigr;915603 wrote:
Barbie-gun

:D


Good definition :D
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 6, 2014 4:44 am
More manly, more manly...
Dammian • Dec 6, 2014 9:49 am
zippyt;915616 wrote:
this is what Grav is refering to


Cute, but less than half is available in our snowy country of bears and vodka :(

Do you have any picture like that for AR-10? :)
Gravdigr • Dec 6, 2014 2:17 pm
Everything in Zip's poster is available for the 10.
Gravdigr • Dec 6, 2014 10:08 pm
I think.
Dammian • Dec 7, 2014 1:50 pm
Gravdigr;915734 wrote:
I think.


Sure it is, but maybe there is a poster for 10? :)

Returning to quadrail, in my defence: it was factory installed and I had no other option in this caliber. AR15 was without quad, but 223 is useless for me.
BigV • Dec 11, 2014 2:27 pm
Dammian;915646 wrote:
Cute, but less than half is available in our snowy country of bears and vodka :(

Do you have any picture like that for AR-10? :)


Dammian, I'd love to hear more about Moscow and about Russia. Not in this thread in particular, but I already knew about the bears and the vodka. If you're willing to share, I'm sure many people here would be interested, if you please.

Thanks!
Dammian • Dec 13, 2014 1:44 pm
BigV;916125 wrote:
Dammian, I'd love to hear more about Moscow and about Russia. Not in this thread in particular, but I already knew about the bears and the vodka. If you're willing to share, I'm sure many people here would be interested, if you please.

Thanks!


No problems! In this particular thread I can share some facts about civil weapons in Russia for example ;)
Gravdigr • Dec 13, 2014 2:52 pm
Civil weapons...that's almost an oxymoron.
Dammian • Dec 14, 2014 4:09 am
Maybe it was not a correct translation. I meant that we have a federal low wich describes types of weapons, available for civilians, excluding army, police and other special organizations :)
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 14, 2014 12:18 pm
No, you were clear, he was being a smartass. It's a common affliction among us here. :haha:
Gravdigr • Dec 14, 2014 4:38 pm
Well, looks like Ima piss everybody off today. Yesterday, last night, whatthefuckever.
sexobon • Dec 14, 2014 5:00 pm
I'd still let you dig my grave. Just don't get any ideas about doing it soon.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 14, 2014 6:23 pm
Gravdigr;916413 wrote:
Well, looks like Ima piss everybody off today. Yesterday, last night, whatthefuckever.

No, no, no, you haven't pissed everybody off, you ain't that good. Image


But seriously, I don't think anybody's pissed off.
footfootfoot • Dec 14, 2014 7:06 pm
Yes, Bruce. But he does have his comedy gold moments. I think we should keep him.

Gravdigr;914443 wrote:
Hmm...You'd have to infiltrate yourself to extricate yourself.
footfootfoot • Dec 14, 2014 7:07 pm
Dammian, I think you might be our first Muscovite Dwellar. Welcome, if you haven't been already.
footfootfoot • Dec 14, 2014 7:34 pm
xoxoxoBruce;913112 wrote:
In 1620s the Swedes decided to build a warship, named VASA. Not just any warship, but a kick ass and take names, 64 gun pride of the fleet. Unfortunately they had it designed by a committee, and if I remember correctly it was top heavy, so in 1628, 1 mile into it's maiden voyage it rolled over and sank. Well this was pretty embarrassing to the committee so they just left it on the bottom until 1961, when the raised and restored it.

A year ago someone decided they should make a 3 copies of one of the 24 pounder cannons and fire one.
That sounds like the bullshit needed to get a green light and funding, but we know they're doing this for fun. ;)

Image
So this is a major project, and they detailed at a website.

Definitely worth checking the link. Glatt would love this.

Bronze averages about $4/pound so at 2500# that's ten grand in bronze alone. The next big cost is the heat to melt that much bronze.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 14, 2014 9:50 pm
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BigV • Dec 15, 2014 11:07 am
Gravdigr;916330 wrote:
Civil weapons...that's almost an oxymoron.


funny!

But I think civilian weapons is the intended meaning.
Dammian • Dec 15, 2014 12:21 pm
BigV;916449 wrote:
funny!

But I think civilian weapons is the intended meaning.


Thanks! :) My English is quite poor at the moment cause I had not any foreign bosses for a quite long time. No practice - no language. Tourism is not in count, but it helps :)
Dammian • Dec 15, 2014 12:29 pm
footfootfoot;916421 wrote:
Dammian, I think you might be our first Muscovite Dwellar. Welcome, if you haven't been already.


Thank you! I had been already welcomed here, but it was almost 10 years ago. Last week I recovered my password in my mind, so here I am :)
I had no guns that time anyway :cool:
footfootfoot • Dec 15, 2014 12:57 pm
Dammian;916450 wrote:
Thanks! :) My English is quite poor at the moment cause I had not any foreign bosses for a quite long time. No practice - no language. Tourism is not in count, but it helps :)


No your English is fine. Civil and civilian can have the same meaning.

civ·il
&#712;siv(&#601;)l/
adjective
1.
of or relating to ordinary citizens and their concerns, as distinct from military or ecclesiastical matters.
"civil aviation"

BigV is just explaining a joke everyone got.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 15, 2014 4:03 pm
footfootfoot;916420 wrote:
Yes, Bruce. But he does have his comedy gold moments. I think we should keep him.
I vote for keeping everyone. :thumb:
Dammian • Dec 16, 2014 3:42 am
footfootfoot;916452 wrote:

BigV is just explaining a joke everyone got.


Excepting myself anyway :D
BigV • Dec 16, 2014 10:47 am
footfootfoot;916452 wrote:
No your English is fine. Civil and civilian can have the same meaning.

I agree, your English is just fine.

footfootfoot;916452 wrote:
BigV is just explaining a joke everyone got.

I get that a lot.... :eyebrow:
BigV • Dec 16, 2014 10:56 am
Gravdigr;916330 wrote:
Civil weapons...that's almost an oxymoron.


BigV;916449 wrote:
funny!

But I think civilian weapons is the intended meaning.


Dammian;916497 wrote:
Excepting myself anyway :D


civ·il
&#712;siv(&#601;)l/
adjective
adjective: civil

--snip--

2.
courteous and polite.
"we tried to be civil to him"


Actually, Dammian, Gravdigr's joke (a pretty good one, too) was pointing out the apparent contradiction between the second definition of civil and the obvious meaning of weapons. This kind of contradiction is often used for humorous effect. Gravdigr this called this paradox an oxymoron.

ox·y·mo·ron
(&#335;k&#8242;s&#275;-mor&#8242;&#335;n&#8242;)
n. pl. ox·y·mo·rons or ox·y·mo·ra (-mor&#8242;&#601;)
A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist.
Dammian • Dec 16, 2014 12:17 pm
BigV;916512 wrote:
Actually, Dammian, Gravdigr's joke (a pretty good one, too) was pointing out the apparent contradiction between the second definition of civil and the obvious meaning of weapons. This kind of contradiction is often used for humorous effect. Gravdigr this called this paradox an oxymoron.


Ah! Got that! :blush:
Actually our criminal law regarding to self defense using guns fully accomplish that oxymoron, so this is not a joke in fact in our country of balalaika and caviar :D
Gravdigr • Dec 19, 2014 5:07 pm
Aaaaaaaanyway:

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A whole damn flock o' the things...
zippyt • Dec 19, 2014 5:11 pm
i saw one of those take off in Oki , i was a WAYS from it but it was Deafening !!!!!
footfootfoot • Dec 19, 2014 6:49 pm
One of my friends' dad was a spook and went on a ride in one of those.
I also read somewhere that the fuel tanks leak like sieves when they are on the ground because when they are at altitude they contract with the cold and tighten up. If they were tight on the ground they tear apart when they were at altitude.

There's probably a clearer way of explaining that.
footfootfoot • Dec 19, 2014 8:57 pm
http://listverse.com/2014/07/12/10-badass-ancient-weapons-from-around-the-world/
Griff • Dec 20, 2014 9:33 am
so much fast
Gravdigr • Dec 20, 2014 3:22 pm
footfootfoot;916777 wrote:
One of my friends' dad was a spook and went on a ride in one of those.
I also read somewhere that the fuel tanks leak like sieves when they are on the ground because when they are at altitude they contract with the cold and tighten up. If they were tight on the ground they tear apart when they were at altitude.

There's probably a clearer way of explaining that.


First off, that's racist!

I think they leak like sieves, and then at speed, everything heats up and expands, sealing the 'leaks'. That's why it was made from titanium alloy, to withstand the extreme temps created by atmospheric friction.

Wiki quote:

The heat would have caused a smooth skin to split or curl, whereas the corrugated skin could expand vertically and horizontally and increased longitudinal strength. Fuselage panels were manufactured to only loosely fit on the ground. Proper alignment was achieved as the airframe heated up and expanded several inches. Because of this, and the lack of a fuel sealing system that could handle the airframe's expansion at extreme temperatures, the aircraft leaked JP-7 fuel on the ground. After takeoff, the aircraft would perform a short sprint to warm up the airframe, then refuel before heading to its destination.

The outer windscreen of the cockpit was made of quartz and was fused ultrasonically to the titanium frame. The temperature of the exterior of the windscreen reached 600 degrees during a mission.

Cooling was carried out by cycling fuel behind the titanium surfaces in the chines. On landing, the canopy temperature was over 300 °C (572 °F).


If it's leaking due to not being sealed, and it contracts, wouldn't it then leak even worse?
footfootfoot • Dec 20, 2014 4:58 pm
I'm always confused by these things.

If the ring on a mason jar contracts wouldn't it be tighter? I don't know. Just that they leak like sieves.
Gravdigr • Dec 20, 2014 5:04 pm
Perhaps, but the jar will shrink also. Some. Maybe.

It's the vacuum that seals a mason jar.
footfootfoot • Dec 21, 2014 2:20 pm
I wasn't referring to the seal of the jar, I know how that works, I'm not a 'tard. I'm still confused because if both parts are shrinking or expanding then their relative dimensions would be the same unless the parts shrank/expanded at different rates.

In any case at that altitude the temp is usually about -40f, the plane must be going as fast as a motherfucker to create that much heat in a) the cold and b) the thinner air at that altitude.
footfootfoot • Dec 21, 2014 2:27 pm
Holy hot mess, Batman:
Airframe, canopy and landing gear[edit]
On most aircraft, use of titanium was limited by the costs involved; it was generally used only in components exposed to the highest temperatures, such as exhaust fairings and the leading edges of wings. On the SR-71, titanium was used for 85% of the structure, with much of the rest polymer composite materials.[24] To control costs, Lockheed used a more easily worked alloy of titanium which softened at a lower temperature.[N 3] The challenges posed led Lockheed to develop new fabrication methods, and have since been used in the manufacture of other aircraft. Welding titanium requires distilled water, as the chlorine present in tap water is corrosive; cadmium-plated tools could not be used as they also caused corrosion.[25] Metallurgical contamination was another problem; at one point 80% of the delivered titanium for manufacture was rejected on these grounds.[26][27]

The high temperatures generated inflight required special design and operating techniques. Major portions of the skin of the inboard wings were corrugated, not smooth. Aerodynamicists initially opposed the concept, disparagingly referring to the aircraft as a Mach 3 variant of the 1920s-era Ford Trimotor, known for its corrugated aluminum skin.[28] The heat would have caused a smooth skin to split or curl, whereas the corrugated skin could expand vertically and horizontally and increased longitudinal strength. Fuselage panels were manufactured to only loosely fit on the ground. Proper alignment was achieved as the airframe heated up and expanded several inches.[citation needed] Because of this, and the lack of a fuel sealing system that could handle the airframe's expansion at extreme temperatures, the aircraft leaked JP-7 fuel on the ground. After takeoff, the aircraft would perform a short sprint to warm up the airframe, then refuel before heading to its destination.[citation needed]

The outer windscreen of the cockpit was made of quartz and was fused ultrasonically to the titanium frame. The temperature of the exterior of the windscreen reached 600 degrees[clarification needed] during a mission.[29]

Cooling was carried out by cycling fuel behind the titanium surfaces in the chines. On landing, the canopy temperature was over 300 °C (572 °F).[28] The red stripes on some SR-71s were to prevent maintenance workers from damaging the skin. Near the center of the fuselage, the curved skin was thin and delicate, with no support from the structural ribs, which were spaced several feet apart.[30]

The Blackbird's tires, manufactured by B.F. Goodrich, contained aluminum and were filled with nitrogen. They cost $2,300 and did not last even 20 missions. The Blackbird landed at over 170 knots and deployed a drag parachute to stop; the chute also acted to reduce stress on the tires.[31]
Lamplighter • Dec 21, 2014 3:21 pm
What could go wrong ???
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 29, 2014 8:23 am
Not much, they worked very well. Ridiculously expensive and inefficient, but looking at the operating parameters... Damn.

Back on earth...
glatt • Dec 29, 2014 9:04 am
When a Tommy gun and Gatling gun have a baby and feed it steroids.
Gravdigr • Dec 29, 2014 5:12 pm
"Thaht's nowt a knoife, this is a knoife."

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That's the GAU-8 Avenger rotary cannon, off the Warthog.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 29, 2014 7:46 pm
Yeah but you can't CC with that.:headshake
footfootfoot • Dec 30, 2014 9:43 am
what are the barrel shaped parts? magazines? motors?
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 30, 2014 10:16 am
The motors, hydraulics, bells and whistles, to feed that sucker 30mm rounds at 4200 per minute. :eek:
Lamplighter • Dec 30, 2014 10:31 am
xoxoxoBruce;917655 wrote:
The motors, hydraulics, bells and whistles, to feed that sucker 30mm rounds at 4200 per minute. :eek:


At that rate and the relative mass that needs to be moved to change targets,
that must be a new way to install re-bar into old cement.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 30, 2014 10:43 am
That's why the Warthog has two engines, one engine is only equal to the recoil of the gun. :shock:
Gravdigr • Dec 30, 2014 5:55 pm
Lamplighter;917662 wrote:
At that rate and the relative mass that needs to be moved to change targets,
that must be a new way to install re-bar into old cement.


The gun is mounted on the centerline of the aircraft. In fact, the entire plane was designed around the gun.

The firing of the cannon does measurably slow the aircraft, no shit.

ETA: If you've never heard this thing fire, YouTube the A-10 Warthog. There is literally no other sound like it on Earth.

Unless it'd be the world's largest vibrator on the fritz.
BigV • Dec 31, 2014 1:06 am
Gravdigr;917719 wrote:
The gun is mounted on the centerline of the aircraft. In fact, the entire plane was designed around the gun.

The firing of the cannon does measurably slow the aircraft, no shit.

ETA: If you've never heard this thing fire, YouTube the A-10 Warthog. There is literally no other sound like it on Earth.

Unless it'd be the world's largest vibrator on the fritz.


Not so, only the firing barrel, located at the 9 o'clock position is directly in line with the centerline of the aircraft, with the rest of the gun moved slightly to the 3 o'clock postion accordingly.

The recoil of the gun *does* affect the momentum of the plane. Even more interestingly, during the development of the gun/plane/weapon system, the gun killed the engines of the plane. The smoke from the gun, being nearly oxygen free, caused the engines to flameout. Adjustments to the engine were made, including a self-sustaining combustion system which is activated when the gun is fired to keep them running.

Worth reading. What an impressive weapon in my **favorite** warplane.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 31, 2014 9:58 am
BigV;917739 wrote:
The smoke from the gun, being nearly oxygen free, caused the engines to flameout. Adjustments to the engine were made, including a self-sustaining combustion system which is activated when the gun is fired to keep them running.

Sigh... blowjobs, is there nothing they can't fix? Sigh
zippyt • Dec 31, 2014 12:08 pm
The A10 is'nt( but needs to be) a marine plane.
If theycould Ever figuer out how to aim the gun with out haveing to aim the plane!!
Gravdigr • Dec 31, 2014 2:39 pm
xoxoxoBruce;917762 wrote:
Sigh... blowjobs, is there nothing they can't fix? Sigh


I don't know about that, but, there's nothing they can't make better.
BigV • Dec 31, 2014 9:04 pm
zippyt;917772 wrote:
The A10 is'nt( but needs to be) a marine plane.
If theycould Ever figuer out how to aim the gun with out haveing to aim the plane!!


You're thinking of the AC-130 Spectre from Lockheed.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 10, 2015 3:52 pm
Bargains. Matched pair? :lol2:
zippyt • Jan 10, 2015 10:03 pm
Do want !!!!!
[YOUTUBE]X1VMHQzwDwc[/YOUTUBE]
footfootfoot • Jan 11, 2015 1:38 am
I just watched the movie Fury, about a WWII tank crew and was reminded of a question I'd had since I was a kid.
When the tanks were in a battle three of them got blown up or disabled during the battle and after there was a brief break before the surviving tanks took off.

I could see leaving the dead behind for others to retrieve or bury since they were on the go and in a hurry, but wouldn't they have picked up the other tanks' shells and ammo to re-stock their own tanks?

It seemed odd to me that they'd just leave weapons on the ground and move on.
sexobon • Jan 11, 2015 2:12 am
footfootfoot;918732 wrote:
I just watched the movie Fury, about a WWII tank crew and was reminded of a question I'd had since I was a kid. ...


Tanks, for the memories ...

footfootfoot;918732 wrote:
... When the tanks were in a battle three of them got blown up or disabled during the battle and after there was a brief break before the surviving tanks took off.

I could see leaving the dead behind for others to retrieve or bury since they were on the go and in a hurry, but wouldn't they have picked up the other tanks' shells and ammo to re-stock their own tanks?

It seemed odd to me that they'd just leave weapons on the ground and move on.

I wouldn't want to stake my survival in the next battle on ammo that may be damaged enough to jam the gun; unless, that was my only option. There're a lot of variables in your synopsis; but, I'd probably want metallurgy stress checks first.
zippyt • Jan 11, 2015 11:51 am
Yeah but semi busted ammo is better than NO Ammo
sexobon • Jan 11, 2015 12:27 pm
sexobon;918735 wrote:
... I wouldn't want to stake my survival in the next battle on ammo that may be damaged enough to jam the gun; unless, that was my only option. ...

zippyt;918758 wrote:
Yeah but semi busted ammo is better than NO Ammo

That's what "... unless, that was my only option. ..." means.

If they're leaving questionable ammo behind on the battlefield, it means they have adequate resupply.
footfootfoot • Jan 11, 2015 1:18 pm
Well, in the movie, in their next battle they run out. I get your point about questionable ammo, but there were clearly intact ammo boxes for the .50, and I imagine the shells inside the tank might have at least been checked, or the clips from the belts of the dead.

And why leave guns on the ground? Wouldn't that just leave a weapon that the enemy could use against you if they picked it up?

Maybe I'm just too much of a scavenger.
sexobon • Jan 11, 2015 2:04 pm
I didn't see the movie and as I said, there were too many variables left from your synopsis. The gist of it seems to be that battlefield recovery operations isn't a big box office draw; so, you can't believe everything the way Hollywood portrays it.
footfootfoot • Jan 11, 2015 2:05 pm
No, but what you are saying is that IRL, shit is just left behind?
sexobon • Jan 11, 2015 2:13 pm
Tactical situation permitting, it's recovered; or, destroyed in place before it's simply abandoned.
footfootfoot • Jan 11, 2015 2:21 pm
Thanks! That's what I've been wondering.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 11, 2015 3:05 pm
In the movies I've seen, when a tank is put out of action it's usually burning/exploding, someplace you don't want to have a go-look-see. Even tanks disabled by blowing a tread off, were then finished off so they couldn't keep shooting. But maybe I subscribe to a better class of movies. :haha:
footfootfoot • Jan 11, 2015 4:21 pm
Apparently there was a lot of off-camera action in this film.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 11, 2015 11:03 pm
War is not contained in a sound stage, there's no way to see everything going on. So the camera follows the action that blows the directors skirt up and, the rest just contributes to the sound track. :fuse:
Griff • Jan 12, 2015 6:55 pm
But was the movie any good?
Gravdigr • Jan 12, 2015 7:04 pm
Spoiler Alert™:

We win the war.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 12, 2015 9:30 pm
It was great Griff, no boring time outs to retrieve anything.
Yes, we won, but it was a surprise ending... Boom, Big Bada Boom.
Griff • Jan 12, 2015 10:00 pm
Nice! Who'd expect that?
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 13, 2015 3:14 am
Psst.. wanna buy a bent gun? The Taurus Curve is bent.
It's patented shape is to conform to your body, when you wear it with just a clip on your belt. No holster is the reason for the huge trigger guard, which also houses a laser and white lights. Only in .380 though.
Gravdigr • Jan 13, 2015 2:18 pm
I saw this thing the other day.

Gimmick/POS

In 6 months nobody will have ever heard of this thing.

Might as well say Edsel on the side.

I mean a curved grip?! You'll have to learn to shoot all over again. And what will getting used to this thing do to your shooting ability when you grab a real (straight grip) gun again. No sights, it appears, accuracy is gonna suck anyway, unless your the rare point shooter, and even then, you'll have to relearn how to hold the gun.

Maybe it's the greatest thing ever, what the hell do I know?
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 13, 2015 3:55 pm
Gimmick for sure, something to add to the collection rather than replace anything.

I think it's strictly a gut gun. Somebody tries to rob/assault you, although the laser may give them pause, probably better to wait and stick it in their gut... can't miss.

Besides, the chances of its curves matching yours are pretty slim... or in my case, fat. :vikingsmi
footfootfoot • Jan 13, 2015 5:24 pm
And do the make a left handed version?
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 13, 2015 6:17 pm
Hell no, those are the people we're guarding against. :p:
zippyt • Jan 13, 2015 10:30 pm
All those Tiny .380s feel like toys to me , A ruger LCP ( i think ) is just to small for me to get a grip on , plus .380 aint so great ,Betterer than nothing ,
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 14, 2015 1:33 am
That's why I'd call it a gut gun.


No, that's not woodpeckers you hear. :headshake
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 23, 2015 6:50 pm
We'll steam the huns...
[YOUTUBEWIDE]/huQhqXiB8O0[/YOUTUBEWIDE]
Lamplighter • Jan 23, 2015 7:05 pm
At least they thought ahead and brought along an ambulance and lots of H2O

But, that "gigantic" was impressive when it started to bog down in the round-about,
and it just hunkered down waiting for more steam, and a quiet
" I think I can ... I think I can ... --- I did it ... I did it... I did it"

A neat , fun video clip
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 24, 2015 1:58 am
More up to date... ;)
Scopulus Argentarius • Jan 24, 2015 11:25 am
zippyt;919050 wrote:
All those Tiny .380s feel like toys to me , A ruger LCP ( i think ) is just to small for me to get a grip on , plus .380 aint so great ,Betterer than nothing ,



I like this guy's take on it...
[YOUTUBE]4MPSDjJQIv4[/YOUTUBE]
Scopulus Argentarius • Jan 24, 2015 11:47 am
And this real but somewhat humorous take on the whole thing...

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sexobon • Jan 24, 2015 1:31 pm
I suppose I fall into the "greatest mystery in the world" category. I used to carry a locked & cocked Colt M1911 .45 while in military service (Spec. Ops. continued to use them even after the general transition to 9mm). My civilian choice is a traditional DA/SA S&W 5906 (SS) 9mm. For more discrete SOB carry it's a Walther PPK/S (SS) .380 using magazines with finger extensions. The S&W and Walther have similar actions and safety lever layouts so there's no transition in that respect.

I'm with the shot placement is paramount crowd. I take caliber and energy into consideration when selecting the tool best suited to the operational environment (e.g. bystanders, distances, intermediate barriers, ... etc.); but, not generally for stopping power. At least not until defense includes other types of animals.
Scopulus Argentarius • Jan 24, 2015 3:15 pm
sexobon;920121 wrote:
I suppose I fall into the "greatest mystery in the world" category. I used to carry a locked & cocked Colt M1911 .45 while in military service (Spec. Ops. continued to use them even after the general transition to 9mm). My civilian choice is a traditional DA/SA S&W 5906 (SS) 9mm. For more discrete SOB carry it's a Walther PPK/S (SS) .380 using magazines with finger extensions. The S&W and Walther have similar actions and safety lever layouts so there's no transition in that respect.

I'm with the shot placement is paramount crowd. I take caliber and energy into consideration when selecting the tool best suited to the operational environment (e.g. bystanders, distances, intermediate barriers, ... etc.); but, not generally for stopping power. At least not until defense includes other types of animals.



I could not agree with you more on your civilian choices.

When I carry discretely, it is usually a Bersa/Thunder .380.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 27, 2015 8:16 pm
B-29
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 7, 2015 3:28 pm
X-47B Drone.

[YOUTUBEWIDE]WC8U5_4lo2c#t=252[/YOUTUBEWIDE]
Lamplighter • Feb 7, 2015 6:16 pm
I don't think you would catch me standing around there at the 4:00 min mark
Gravdigr • Feb 15, 2015 1:01 pm
The 'Cool Weapon' in this case is the shooter:

Draw, 18 shots, 6 each on three separate targets, 2 mag changes - less than 5 seconds.

[YOUTUBEWIDE]1QhmSg3UjEU[/YOUTUBEWIDE]

Daaaayum!
Gravdigr • Feb 15, 2015 1:04 pm
Another quick shooter:

[YOUTUBEWIDE]ZqGVU1sW8pg[/YOUTUBEWIDE]

This fucker boggles my mind.
Gravdigr • Feb 15, 2015 1:06 pm
Aaaaand just cuz I like Pat Rogers:

[YOUTUBEWIDE]lUHm34hksac[/YOUTUBEWIDE]

...YOU have just sucked a big fucking moose cock!
Gravdigr • Mar 17, 2015 6:28 pm
The SEPECAT Jaguar does this, first thing, every time it gets a bath.

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zippyt • Mar 17, 2015 7:02 pm
Or smells some thing TASTY(Nasty) on the ground
fargon • Mar 17, 2015 8:14 pm
Hi zippyt.
zippyt • Mar 18, 2015 10:06 pm
Oh im around , reading mostly , just the happy stuff ,
F all the whats pissing you off/upsetting/makeing you sad/ butt hurt / etc...
Lifes to short , i have my own probs , i dont need to invest in some body eleses troubles

Sorry
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 19, 2015 12:19 am
Mistake zip, that's where some of the best laughs are.Image
Gravdigr • Mar 19, 2015 5:50 pm
I actually feel better after reading some that stuff.

My problems don't seem that bad afterward, sometimes.

Sometimes it's depressing, but, may make them feel better by unloading.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 20, 2015 8:11 pm
After the rifle's 80 rounds were gone, you had to remove the rear sight and reload the belt, one at a time, though an access hole.
I guess this is where the saying, Load on Sunday, Hunt on Monday, came from.

The pistol, also having a double action trigger for semi-automatic action, has no trigger guard. :smack:
Gravdigr • Mar 21, 2015 1:57 pm
More like 'Load In September, Hunt Til Spring'.

Good find.
gtown • Mar 23, 2015 1:40 am
You gotta ask yourself, punk, did I fire 39 shots or 40?
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 25, 2015 12:10 am
Not technically a weapon, but in practical terms it sure was.
This one gave it's life for truth, justice and the American way.:f207:
sexobon • Mar 25, 2015 1:11 am
xoxoxoBruce;924557 wrote:
Not technically a weapon ...
It could have been, in the hands of a conscripted taxi driver.
Gravdigr • Apr 2, 2015 3:35 pm
Slow motion M-60 action:

[YOUTUBEWIDE]8aekduZbQWk[/YOUTUBEWIDE]
Dammian • Apr 3, 2015 1:52 pm
Sad, but fake..
Gravdigr • Apr 3, 2015 2:38 pm
The .88 Magnum:

...it shoots through schools.


[YOUTUBE]ufH4eZ7sF_I[/YOUTUBE]
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 3, 2015 2:47 pm
Overkill, all you need is a 24 inch .357.
Gravdigr • Apr 3, 2015 3:02 pm
Here's a 20" barrel, available in .357 S&W Mag.

It gives up four inches, but it's 10+1 capacity might make it up.

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sexobon • Apr 3, 2015 3:23 pm
Gravdigr;925054 wrote:
Slow motion M-60 action: ...
I lived with one; but, only briefly. In the SF qualification course, the ranking students had administrative duties as student leaders. They were issued an M60 regardless of whether they were communications, engineering or medical specialists rather than light or heavy weapons specialists. Others carried the M16. Carrying that thing around all day everywhere in addition to the same basic load everyone else was carrying kept me in good shape; but, I swear it was talkin' to me on those long forced marches saying slow down, take it easy. Ah, quality time. :D
Gravdigr • Apr 3, 2015 4:34 pm
Thanks for doin' that.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 5, 2015 7:39 pm
.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 6, 2015 10:58 pm
.22LR Flute.
Gravdigr • Apr 7, 2015 4:03 pm
Hah, that'd be cool as hell if all the valve flapper thingies flew open when ya shot it.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 22, 2015 12:28 pm
No flapper thigies to open, but smoke curls like Nasty McBad's lip.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 24, 2015 12:33 pm
The Big One, WW II.
glatt • Apr 24, 2015 12:56 pm
This was a long time before that, far far away.
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Gravdigr • Apr 24, 2015 3:09 pm
[YOUTUBE]9BzoDW7E8AI[/YOUTUBE]
Gravdigr • Apr 24, 2015 3:28 pm
The Winchester SXP is a cool weapon, but there is a small number of them that are decidedly uncool.

[YOUTUBEWIDE]rBX7mEBVOao[/YOUTUBEWIDE]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]If you have a Winchester SXP Waterfowl Hunter, SXP Black Shadow, SXP Turkey Hunter, or SXP Long Beard, with 3.5 inch chamber, GET THAT SUMBITCH LOOKED AT!!! STAT!!!![/COLOR]

Winchester SXP Recall Notice
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 25, 2015 4:49 pm
Wonder if they still make these?
fargon • Apr 25, 2015 5:38 pm
Want!
zippyt • Apr 25, 2015 10:27 pm
I SOOOOOOO Want one of these !!!
[YOUTUBEWIDE]PFerkFl3Yt4[/YOUTUBEWIDE]
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 26, 2015 4:30 pm
Before the SR-71 Blackbird was the A-12.

[YOUTUBEWIDE]7diDWBrTjr0[/YOUTUBEWIDE]
Lamplighter • Apr 26, 2015 5:22 pm
Gravdigr;926655 wrote:
The Winchester SXP is a cool weapon, but there is a small number of them that are decidedly uncool.
---
[COLOR="DarkRed"]If you have a Winchester SXP Waterfowl Hunter, SXP Black Shadow, SXP Turkey Hunter,
or SXP Long Beard, with 3.5 inch chamber, GET THAT SUMBITCH LOOKED AT!!! STAT!!!![/COLOR]

Winchester SXP Recall Notice


I sent this to my G-son, who is just now getting into turkey hunts in eastern Oregon.
Gravdigr • Apr 27, 2015 4:30 pm
xoxoxoBruce;926727 wrote:
Wonder if they still make these?


Harbor Freight

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Gravdigr • Apr 27, 2015 4:32 pm
xoxoxoBruce;926787 wrote:
Before the SR-71 Blackbird was the A-12.


Haven't watched the vid yet...The A-12, was that the Oxcart?
xoxoxoBruce • May 4, 2015 10:34 pm
Nothing says, back the fuck up, like...
Gravdigr • May 5, 2015 12:02 am
Ain't no love like a GAU-8 love...
zippyt • May 5, 2015 12:45 am
ha
Gravdigr • May 5, 2015 2:51 pm
There's just something a little extra cool about a chrome-plated GAU-8 muzzle plate.
xoxoxoBruce • May 5, 2015 9:26 pm
Well got a lot of aircraft carriers, but we've only got ten of this size.

Image

Bet this baby costs us more than a couple hundred bucks a week.

USS John C. Stennis (CVN-74)
Commissioned: December 9th, 1995
Air Wing:
5 squadrons of Super Hornet strike fighters
1 Electronic Attack Squadron
1 Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron
2 Helicopter Squadrons
1 Fleet Logistics Support Squadron
Dimensions: 257 wide by 1,092 feet long by 244 high
Displacement: 103,300 tons
Propulsion: 2 Westinghouse A4W nuclear reactors, 4 steam turbines and 4 shafts.
Total Horsepower: 260,000hp
Range: 1,000,000 miles before nuclear refueling
4 Propellers: bronze, 22 ft across, and 66,200 lbs
2 Rudders: each 29 by 22 ft, 50 tons
Anchor Weights: 30 tons each
Top Speed: Over 30 knots, rumored to be around 35 knots
Combat Aircraft: About 65 with a surge capability of over 85
4 Elevators: high-speed, each over 4,000 square ft.
4 Catapults: steam, 310ft stroke, capable of pushing a 80,000lb aircraft to 140 knots
4 Arresting Cables: 2“thick braided steel, tied to a under-deck hydraulic engine
Flight Deck Size: 4.5 acres
Raw Materials: Close to 55,000 tons of steel and over 1,000,000lbs of aluminum
Operational Life Expectancy: Half a century
Compliment: 6,500 people
Defensive Weaponry: 2 Mk56 launchers, 2 RIM-116 launchers, 3 Phalanx CIWS
Jet Fuel Storage Capacity: 3.5 million gallons
Consumable Stores: Enough food and supplies to operate for 90 days
Meals Served Per Day: 18,600
Eggs Served At Breakfast Alone: 12,000
Water distillation per day: 400,000 gallons, enough for 2,000 American homes
Electrical: 30,000 light fixtures, 1,600 miles of cable and wiring, 2,000 phones
Bedding: 14,000 pillowcases and 28,000 sheets
Number of compartments and spaces: About 3,500
Capacity of Air Conditioning System: 3,500 tons
BigV • May 5, 2015 10:43 pm
Gravdigr;927648 wrote:
There's just something a little extra cool about a chrome-plated GAU-8 muzzle plate.


Agreed. But I think that might be polished nickel, not chrome plated. It doesn't have that cold mirror finish of chrome, it looks... warmer.
Gravdigr • May 6, 2015 7:03 am
Whatev--. Oooh, shiny.
xoxoxoBruce • May 7, 2015 6:09 pm
Must have been an Eagle scout, prepared as a bitch.
BigV • May 7, 2015 9:12 pm
poster child for "just because you *can* doesn't mean you should".
xoxoxoBruce • May 7, 2015 9:20 pm
AC 47 Spooky.
Gravdigr • May 8, 2015 12:02 pm
:devil:
xoxoxoBruce • May 8, 2015 6:32 pm
Image

These plans are still available from Delta Press.
But try to be responsible citizens and use soda cans, ok.

[VIMEO]84769613[/VIMEO]
xoxoxoBruce • May 15, 2015 12:02 am
A .45.
Gravdigr • May 15, 2015 1:33 pm
Sweet.
xoxoxoBruce • May 17, 2015 7:21 pm
In case you were wondering.
xoxoxoBruce • May 18, 2015 10:30 pm
Bigga da boats.
Gravdigr • May 19, 2015 1:19 pm
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fargon • May 19, 2015 1:59 pm
$40.75 for a National Match. Must have been in the '30s.
Gravdigr • May 25, 2015 10:19 am
Firing an AT4:

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xoxoxoBruce • May 27, 2015 12:02 am
1902 Sears Octagon Winchesters.

Image
xoxoxoBruce • May 27, 2015 7:42 pm
Tankata tankata tankata...
zippyt • May 27, 2015 10:18 pm
I wounder if they ALL fired at once ??
Gravdigr • May 28, 2015 1:23 pm
Heh, I bet they did, occasionally.
Gravdigr • Jun 6, 2015 1:46 pm
[VIMEO]128526277[/VIMEO]
Gravdigr • Jul 1, 2015 12:11 pm
[ATTACH]52252[/ATTACH]

From the top: F-2 Banshee, F-3 Demon, and F-4 Phantom
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 9, 2015 12:22 am
Mr Gatling's patent for his weapon to end all wars.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 12, 2015 8:49 pm
In March 1945, 15 battleships, 29 carriers, 23 cruisers, 106 destroyers, and a train of oilers and supply ships sailed from "a Pacific base." What was this base? The mightiest force of naval Power ever assembled must have required a tremendous supporting establishment. Ulithi, the biggest and most active naval base in the world was indeed tremendous but it was unknown. Few civilians had heard of it at all. By the time security released the name, the remarkable base of Ulithi was a ghost. The war had moved on to the Japanese homeland, and the press was not printing ancient history about Ulithi.

Ulithi is 360 miles southwest of Guam, 850 miles east of the Philippines, 1300 miles South of Tokyo. It is a typical volcanic atoll with coral, white sand, and palm trees. The reef runs roughly twenty miles north and south by ten miles across enclosing a vast anchorage with an average depth of 80 to 100 feet - the only suitable anchorage within 800 miles. Three dozen little islands rise slightly above the sea, the largest only half a square mile in area.

Ulithi is an amazing story, from the 400 natives and three Jap soldiers in Sept of 1944, to the ice cream barge that made 500 gallons a shift. Providing not only ships and men, but supplies like 600,000 gallons of fuel oil, 1500 freight cars of ammunition, and enough food to provide every person in Vermont and Wyoming with three meals a day for fifteen days, just for the Invasion of Okinawa.

Not a lot of dialog but tons of pictures
glatt • Jul 12, 2015 9:06 pm
Good pictures at that link
JuancoRocks • Jul 13, 2015 1:05 am
This short video tells a lot.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEgsA07E9Ok

Great pictures as well......500 Gallons of ice cream a shift?

Thanks

JR
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 13, 2015 7:16 pm
Coming to a government agency near you.
Gravdigr • Jul 20, 2015 2:47 pm
The Last Avro Vulcan Bomber Flying Just Pulled Off An Amazing Stunt

Some good video at that link.
Lamplighter • Jul 20, 2015 3:27 pm
The "praetorian guard" fly-by gives a bit of perspective on size...
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 20, 2015 8:04 pm
I was looking at a magazine in the waiting room and it described how our new secret spy plane uses a turbojet from runway to 2,000 mph, and a ramjet to 4,000 mph, then a scramjet to 6,000 mph.



HOLY SHIT, 6,000 MPH!! :eek:
Gravdigr • Jul 21, 2015 5:39 pm
[ATTACH]52688[/ATTACH]

A B-52 landed at Oshkosh for AirVenture. For the first time ever.

What's the big deal, you ask?

The Buff (Big Ugly Fat Fucker) usually uses a 10,000 x 300 foot runway. Oshkosh's largest runway is ~8,000 feet by 150 feet.

The B-52 is 159 feet wide.

6,000 feet of runway lighting was removed for clearance.

It stopped in 5,000 feet.
BigV • Jul 22, 2015 11:02 am
Another badass airplane from another era.

I've been to one up close to one at air shows, and among the many surprising facts listed on the placard by the plane, I learned that the wings are designed to flex during flight. Up to six feet at the wingtip! Whoa, that seems like flapping practically.
Gravdigr • Aug 6, 2015 11:43 am
The mission date, and one of the pilot names should help you out:

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Lamplighter • Aug 6, 2015 12:04 pm
Victor #82 - How to change the world in a day ?
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 6, 2015 12:08 pm
As does the date and payload of the mission.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 7, 2015 8:21 pm
[QUOTE=Gravdigr;935546]The mission date, and one of the pilot names should help you out:

If you've ever wondered how Hiroshima was chosen, and by whom.
Gravdigr • Aug 8, 2015 3:39 pm
In internet time, that was along read, but, very interesting.
Gravdigr • Aug 12, 2015 4:25 pm
Air launching an ICBM:

[YOUTUBE]96A0wb1Ov9k[/YOUTUBE]
sexobon • Aug 12, 2015 6:15 pm
I've flown across the pond in a C-5 Galaxy; but, didn't get to ride an ICBM off the ramp. :headshake
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 12, 2015 8:16 pm
I'd consider that a win. ;)
Gravdigr • Aug 13, 2015 3:19 pm
[YOUTUBEWIDE]M3Hs4do69ms[/YOUTUBEWIDE]
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 19, 2015 12:56 am
This design is seriously outdated. No armor plate, I don't even see any body armor in there. And a camera instead of a 120mm cannon in the turret. Image
it • Aug 19, 2015 8:20 am
[YOUTUBE]IWoEQRl8dCs[/YOUTUBE]

Now getting done again with airplanes, for drones:
http://www.livescience.com/49057-military-flying-aircraft-carriers-drones.html
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 20, 2015 1:27 am
I'd read, the theory was this throwaway .45, although a single shot with five chances, would give partisans the power to kill an occupying solder and obtain a better weapon.

Not shown in the Guide publication below are the 1,000,000 FP-45 .45 caliber "Liberator Pistols" that it built in three months during 1942 at it was totally top secret. The 300 women that built them worked in a part of the Guide factory on the west side of Anderson in an area that was completely walled off for security purposes. The workers were sworn to secrecy and even their husbands and boy friends did not know what they were doing. The one shot weapons were supposed to be air dropped to the Resistance in occupied countries during the Second World War but were never used. Probably as well as a weapon in untrained hands, and even trained hands, can be more dangerous to the user than the target. In any event with it being so secret it obviously did not end up in the Guide Lamp WWII history. This was an GM Inland Division design but Guide did all the final assembly, Frigidaire Division of GM chambered the barrels and Saginaw Steering Gear Division of GM made barrel bushings and along with Detroit Transmission Division made barrel collars. This was a true cooperative effort among the five GM Divisions and a host of other outside sub-contractors.

A million in three months, along with all the other war production going on? :eek:

This is the book he mentioned.
Guide Lamp Division of General Motors in World War Two / WWII
Gravdigr • Aug 22, 2015 2:01 pm
Holy hell!! This C-130 pilot has tungsten carbide balls.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 22, 2015 2:52 pm
It only seems perverted the first couple times. :haha:
sexobon • Aug 22, 2015 10:40 pm
A buddy assigned to Delta and I were among the spectators out to see this demonstration at Fort Bragg back in '87 when a C130 pilot was hot dogging it. We were both jumpmasters that had spent a fair amount of time in C130s and we both shook our heads and said "too steep" as the aircraft descended on its approach. Sometimes it sucks to be right:

[YOUTUBE]b4L50eMI8gY[/YOUTUBE]
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 22, 2015 10:47 pm
Why did he crash, because he bounced the loss of load weight made him nose over?
sexobon • Aug 22, 2015 11:24 pm
He came in too steep for too long to pull up and achieve level flight. He got the nose up to avoid plowing into the ground; but, the aircraft was still descending and did a belly flop. The aircraft had already slowed to deployment speed and the ground friction probably caused further loss of speed while the bounce also changed the pitch sending the aircraft back down again. That wasn't tarmac beneath them.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 23, 2015 12:17 am
Thanks. Yeah, it looked pretty soft, good for slowing a heavy skid load, but not for aircraft landing... if it wants to take off again. We could see why he failed, but it disappeared behind the standing people, so we couldn't see how it failed. I wondered if it nosed in, skewed sideways, or just ran out of room?
sexobon • Aug 23, 2015 1:39 am
There wasn't much to see IRL either between the other spectators, the dust cloud raised by the aircraft, the trees at the end of the bleachers, and finally the smoke. We suspected the aircrew was killed; but, didn't get confirmation until later on television news.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 23, 2015 2:05 pm
They built 2400 of them, but only 47 AC-130 Gunships.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 23, 2015 5:19 pm
By the end of WW II had technology they wanted to use but were short on materials. These two jets were built with wood airframes.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 26, 2015 12:16 am
Image
Abrams Tank, 120mm ammo loader.
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 2, 2015 12:58 am
Boston Police in 1918. I got your brutality right here, punk.
sexobon • Sep 2, 2015 1:24 am
Looks like a good setup for recreational drone hunting.
Gravdigr • Sep 3, 2015 6:14 pm
Howmanytubesnow??

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xoxoxoBruce • Sep 9, 2015 11:12 am
Cheap and plentiful, that's our motto,
whether you choose revolve or auto.
Gravdigr • Sep 9, 2015 12:05 pm
Pay your postman


Think of the shitstorm that would stir up today.
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 9, 2015 1:48 pm
Better pay him, he's got a gun. :haha:
Gravdigr • Sep 9, 2015 2:19 pm
He'll get ya with ya own gat.
Gravdigr • Sep 15, 2015 4:09 pm
Punt gun

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xoxoxoBruce • Sep 18, 2015 11:08 am
Doncha hate it when they interrupt supper...
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 4, 2015 1:39 am
The Turnbull AR-10 sold for $136,000.
Zathris • Oct 4, 2015 2:39 am
Image
Gravdigr • Oct 4, 2015 11:29 am
xoxoxoBruce;940830 wrote:
The Turnbull AR-10 sold for $136,000.


Doug Turnbull turns out some damn fine weapons.
Zathris • Oct 4, 2015 3:11 pm
Grigr;940862 wrote:
Doug Turnbull turns out some damn fine weapons.


The Corner Shot ain't to shabby either.
sexobon • Oct 4, 2015 4:19 pm
Of course not. It's just that it's been posted in the Cellar before and sometimes such things don't get as enthusiastic a response the second time around. You can read the replies here:

11/6/2003: Corner rifle
glatt • Oct 4, 2015 5:03 pm
Thanks for making me feel old
Gravdigr • Oct 5, 2015 5:39 pm
sexobon;940889 wrote:
Of course not. It's just that it's been posted in the Cellar before and sometimes such things don't get as enthusiastic a response the second time around. You can read the replies here:

11/6/2003: Corner rifle


And then there's aesthetics...
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 5, 2015 8:31 pm
Yeah, we all hate weapons, we love art and beauty, and craftsmanship. :lol2:
Zathris • Oct 5, 2015 10:19 pm
xoxoxoBruce;940983 wrote:
Yeah, we all hate weapons, we love art and beauty, and craftsmanship. :lol2:


'at's a good bazinga rite d'ere. :bucktoothed grin:
Gravdigr • Oct 12, 2015 5:52 pm
You know that loud thing on the front of the A-10?

Dis what it shoot:

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xoxoxoBruce • Oct 14, 2015 6:12 am
This is how the reload Grav's little bullets.

[YOUTUBEWIDE]yd2QyIEdDGc[/YOUTUBEWIDE]
Gravdigr • Oct 14, 2015 3:04 pm
It's not for your rifle, it's for your gun. As in:

This is my rifle
This is my gun
This is for fighting
This is for fun


Alabama Walmart Cluelessly Stocks Gun Counter With 'Gun Oil' Lube

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"It says water-based lubricant for your gun!" Bracey said in the above video. "I was like, 'Water-based? That could rust, right?'... Let’s see here: ‘Long-lasting lubrication with easy cleanup. Glycerin and paraben free. Wetter, lighter feel than silicone.’ Oh that sounds good. That sounds really good. I think my gun would work really good, wetter and lighter. Then I see the ‘Ginseng and guarana to promote blood flow,’ and I’m like, ‘What?’ For topical use, apply desired amount to genital areas. Boom!”


:lol2:
Gravdigr • Oct 15, 2015 5:31 pm
I don't think it's got anything on our Abrams,;), but, ya show off what ya got, I guess:

[YOUTUBEWIDE]kaMvAnQJHjc[/YOUTUBEWIDE]

Link to not much info
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 15, 2015 8:35 pm
Shit, here comes the General... quick inside the tank.

SARGENT! What the hell are these glasses of wine doing here?

[SIZE="1"]Oh crap, we forgot the wine.[/SIZE]
UH, well... it's a test Sir...

Test?

Uh... yes Sir a test for a demonstration. Yeah that's it, a demonstration... for the big show, Sir. Yes the military show, we wanted to surprise you, Sir.:sweat:
Pamela • Oct 26, 2015 3:02 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Thor A1
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 26, 2015 4:06 pm
50 x 5.56x45 Nato x 1000 rpm = full to empty in 3 seconds, although it might have to ramp up to full speed, so say 3.00000001 seconds. :lol2:
Gravdigr • Oct 26, 2015 5:48 pm
It looks like a video game weapon. Looks cool and all, but, I lost count of the pointy/snaggy parts. Those clips/magazines can't be convenient to carry, either.
zippyt • Oct 26, 2015 11:24 pm
and the 90 degree feed would slow down the fire rate
Pamela • Oct 26, 2015 11:31 pm
Bloody nitpickers!

Can't you just go "Oooh cool!" and leave it be? :D
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 27, 2015 4:22 am
zippyt;943425 wrote:
and the 90 degree feed would slow down the fire rate
1000 rounds a minute isn't fast enough?

Pamela;943426 wrote:
Bloody nitpickers!

Can't you just go "Oooh cool!" and leave it be? :D

You know better, why should we start now? :haha:
fargon • Oct 27, 2015 7:13 am
Ooooh cool.
glatt • Oct 27, 2015 8:42 am
Gravdigr;943378 wrote:
It looks like a video game weapon. Looks cool and all, but...


It pretty much is a video game weapon. It's just a prototype on a computer file somewhere. You (and I) might feel differently about it if there was a video of a real on at a range being used.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 27, 2015 1:33 pm
A 3.00000001 seconds video? Oh, a super slo-mo job and a couple repeats with a guy reciting the website lines like, "Hide everywhere, kill everything", or "...go in silently but leave with a bang." Which tells me they are not a serious gun builder, but a hyperbole machine.
Gravdigr • Oct 27, 2015 4:20 pm
Pamela;943426 wrote:
Bloody nitpickers!

Can't you just go "Oooh cool!" and leave it be? :D


xoxoxoBruce;943440 wrote:
You know better, why should we start now? :haha:


It's kinda what we do. Take a little solace in knowing you are not suffering alone.;)

They left scars on me.

:p:
Gravdigr • Oct 27, 2015 6:25 pm
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monster • Oct 27, 2015 10:08 pm
You know what weapons are really cool?
Using your epithets as your tool
Let your vocabulary
be your hardened cavalry
Leave the inarticulate to play the fool
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 27, 2015 11:56 pm
Using your epithets as your tool
May lead to feeling very cool
Now with retort you'll be smote
But if you tire of that jive
then you should use a .45
And it will never leave his throat
glatt • Oct 28, 2015 9:57 am
Took me a while, Grav, but I found him. I'd be long dead if he wanted to kill me.
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Gravdigr • Oct 28, 2015 3:04 pm
I messed around with the pic trying to make him harder to find, but, only ended up funkifying the pic.

I thought it was pretty good camouflage, considering it's not even close to the color of the background. But it does approximate the shadows pretty well.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 28, 2015 3:07 pm
I didn't even look for anything, I thought you were saying rocks are cool weapons. duh:smack:
Gravdigr • Oct 28, 2015 3:23 pm
:lol2:, but, now that you mention it...
glatt • Oct 28, 2015 3:36 pm
It's outstanding camo. I was scanning the picture trying to figure out WTF you were talking about. And it wasn't until I started looking in a tight grid pattern that he jumped out at me. I must have looked at him a dozen times before I saw him.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 28, 2015 11:01 pm
Holy shit, they busted a guy in NC with 7 to 10 THOUSAND stolen guns, mostly rifles and shotguns, plus ammo. :eek:
sexobon • Oct 28, 2015 11:11 pm
Well, everyone's gotta have a hobby.
BigV • Oct 28, 2015 11:19 pm
xoxoxoBruce;943672 wrote:
I didn't even look for anything, I thought you were saying rocks are cool weapons. duh:smack:


This is me, getting in line.
busterb • Oct 29, 2015 7:14 pm
^WHS^
Gravdigr • Nov 1, 2015 3:09 pm
A phototour of the 493rd Fighter Squadron "Grim Reapers", out of RAF Lakenheath, and their F-15 Eagles.

Lots of pics.
Gravdigr • Nov 7, 2015 4:30 pm
Outta the way! 'New' chopper coming through.

The Sikorsky CH-53K King Stallion:

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Just took its first flight October 27, 2015.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 7, 2015 4:41 pm
The development is an offshoot of the fat contract to build a fleet for the Whitehouse. Definitely a fine machine, but still too slow.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 10, 2015 7:34 pm
From the Hatcher Gun Company... if you've a class 3 or 4 transfer permit.
Not very useful except when you're driving your stagecoach, or have a hole in your collection.
The 9-1/5" barrel should read 9-1/2" :o
zippyt • Nov 10, 2015 10:21 pm
Verry cool , 'specialy the chippawa tripple , ive shot a shorty like these , not verry pleasent .
I would prolly prefer one of these a serba shorty pump gun
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And heres Hickoc45 shooting it ,
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xoxoxoBruce • Nov 11, 2015 12:01 am
One of my roomy's had a saw off Parker Brothers 12ga, and he carved the stock into a quasi-pistol grip. It didn't kick as bad as I thought it would, probably because the barrel was too short to build kick. Of course we weren't using slugs or buck, just bird shot, so that helps. I'll stick with the Streetsweeper.
Gravdigr • Nov 16, 2015 4:52 pm
The CIA explains the differences between the SR-71 Blackbird, and the A-12 Oxcart.

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SR-71 on the right, A-12 on the left

Some of the differences:

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I learned of the CIA article from this YahooFinance article.
Gravdigr • Nov 20, 2015 10:48 am
[COLOR="DarkRed"]***The page linked to below contains a few pics of bullet wounds in the ass-al area. Squeamier Dwellars beware. Actually, only the one is GAH!!-quality, there's a fair amount of red meat visible. The others are just holes, and some fairly impressive bruising.***[/COLOR]

Why I&#8217;d rather be shot with an AK47 than an M4
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 20, 2015 3:12 pm
You mean with an AK you only get half shot in the ass?
Gravdigr • Nov 20, 2015 3:39 pm
No, ya get full-on shot, but, in only half your ass.;)
Gravdigr • Nov 27, 2015 1:57 pm
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Pissed him off, by God.
Clodfobble • Nov 27, 2015 2:45 pm
That was interesting, Grav. I've always been fascinated by that sort of "Yeah, we're at war, but these are things we don't do" rules. Thanks for posting it.
Gravdigr • Nov 27, 2015 4:21 pm
You're very welcome.

:D
zippyt • Nov 29, 2015 11:09 pm
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the colt scamp ,, interesting read on weapon development

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/11/28/colt-scamp-yesterdays-pistol-future/
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 29, 2015 11:49 pm
Very cool, it's a shame it didn't click with the military.
zippyt • Nov 29, 2015 11:53 pm
it looks like robocops pistol in real life ,,,,, Sorta ,,, ifn you squint and look slightly cross eyed ;)
Gravdigr • Dec 2, 2015 1:42 pm
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New kill marker explained
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 2, 2015 2:30 pm
You've been Growled.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 3, 2015 1:20 am
xoxoxoBruce;940983 wrote:
Yeah, we all hate weapons, we love art and beauty, and craftsmanship. :lol2:

You laughed, but here's proof...
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Now ain't that Purdey as a picture?

Now Purdey was always as good as the best, for the last couple of centuries, they kept up with technology consistently. That engraving in the metalwork and fit/finish in the woodwork is flawless. But you know all that pretty doesn't put an extra ounce of meat on the table, There are much, much, much, cheaper guns that will do as well providing supper.
However an up to date technologically, hand built flawlessly, dressed up prettily, shotgun, is gonna be pricey. Guess that's why they start at about $140,000. :speechls:
fargon • Dec 3, 2015 6:04 am
I think that shotgun is to pretty to shoot.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 6, 2015 1:40 pm
How about this one?
Oops, this 1998 gun's sold, $42,500 + $8,925 buyers premium, new Fabbris start at $100,000.
Gravdigr • Dec 6, 2015 1:43 pm
The case is nearly identical to the one posted above. For that kind of money, I'd like a little more difference.:neutral:

Beautiful weapons.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 6, 2015 2:01 pm
What, you don't eat chocolate and pistachio with the same spoon?
[SIZE="1"]Now he's gonna say he doesn't eat pistachio[/SIZE]

The reason they look similar is they both have all the features of a first class gun case, soft interior, lock, double straps, bolstered corners, and completely stitched leather. Plus it has the traditional conservative look rich dudes want. When they're out and about, they don't want to be upstaged by their chauffer, personal assistant, minion, carrying a wild and crazy case. :haha:
Gravdigr • Dec 7, 2015 2:20 pm
USS Zumwalt, largest destroyer ever built for the USNavy, makes it's way down the Kennebec River.

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"We are absolutely fired up to see Zumwalt get underway. For the crew and all those involved in designing, building, and readying this fantastic ship, this is a huge milestone," the ship's skipper, Navy Capt. James Kirk, said before the ship departed.
Gravdigr • Dec 7, 2015 2:22 pm
xoxoxoBruce;947577 wrote:
[SIZE="1"]Now he's gonna say he doesn't eat pistachio[/SIZE]


I don't eat pistachio.

:lol2:
glatt • Dec 7, 2015 2:28 pm
heh. I just came here to post the same.

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Gravdigr • Dec 7, 2015 4:03 pm
10 Fascinating And Forgotten Weapons From History

You've probably seen most of these, but, they're worth a look.
Undertoad • Dec 7, 2015 7:26 pm
It looks like a model
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 7, 2015 8:42 pm
Yeah, probably because it doesn't look like other Navy ships I 'm used to, more like a Hollywood evil villain's boat.
Undertoad • Dec 7, 2015 9:14 pm
original link wrote:
and a stealthy design to reduce its radar signature


Oh.

It looks like that because of potential battlefield chess moves the likes of which we have no fathom.




(...and, probably, ditto ditto congressional funding chess moves ditto ditto ditto)
Gravdigr • Dec 8, 2015 6:39 am
When I see the Zumwalt, I hear those foghorn-sounding blasts from the Tripods in "War of the Worlds" (Spielberg's version), only lower, longer, and ominous-er.

I find it sinister-looking.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 8, 2015 11:46 am
Sinister is a good description. No people, no guns, just a whole lot of ominous unknown. I read they only plan to build three of these. Maybe that was to get money, planning to convince doubters once those three prove themselves.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 8, 2015 12:57 pm
This picture was labeled Hellcat, but I think it's a Wilson.:eyebrow:
fargon • Dec 8, 2015 12:59 pm
That is a beautiful .45 Colt.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 8, 2015 1:03 pm
Yes, except it's not a Colt. :haha: Like the AKs, Colt's 1911 is copied by everyone, with varying degrees of fit and finish. I think that one is about $5200.
fargon • Dec 8, 2015 2:49 pm
Well then, I will take two.
Gravdigr • Dec 8, 2015 3:41 pm
You would think that by charging that much they could afford a website that works.
Gravdigr • Dec 17, 2015 4:57 pm
On a wing and a prayer

The seat cushion has yet to be found.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 17, 2015 5:18 pm
There are pictures in the Cellar archives of an A-10 in Iraq that the female pilot landed with much of the empennage gone and no hydraulics working.


Yes, Capt Campbell.
glatt • Dec 18, 2015 9:01 am
I love the A-10.

I wonder how expensive it would be to restart production to make new ones? I bet they would be $2 Billion each.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 27, 2015 11:39 pm
What are you gonna do, stab me? AHHH, he stabbed me, I'm bleeding.
sexobon • Dec 28, 2015 3:10 am
Those look to be well executed; however, they wouldn't make my top 100 list for aesthetics. But then I started going to The Knifemakers' Guild shows back in the early '80s and have seen thousands of custom knives. I have one by Guild member Loyd McConnell of Cactus Custom Knives that I bought from him at a Guild show in Dallas, TX in the mid '80s. It's a basic fixed 4" drop point blade, all blued (polished and brushed areas) A2 tool steel including the sculptured bolster and full tapered and shaped tang with genuine ivory stocks. I liked the cold blue steel.
zippyt • Dec 28, 2015 9:14 am
Pics or it diddnt happen !!!!
BigV • Dec 29, 2015 12:21 am
knife porn
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 29, 2015 2:39 am
For Christmas I can has knife. It's just under 5" closed and it's been rode hard and put up wet, but I like it.

George Schrade was born in Williamsport, PA, 02-13-1860. In the 1880s he patented a drill gauge, player piano, dime bank, saws on centers, weaver scissors, the shielding machine, cutlery machines, and the switchblade knife. Started the Press Button Knife Company in 1893.
Designed knives for Walden Knife, then with two brothers started Schrade Cutlery in 1904, and designed a four blade switchblade in 1906.
Sold his knife making machinery designs in England, then four years in Solingen, Germany where he invented a better switchblade, but the government seized everything, so came home 1916.
Invented the Flylock, worked for Challenge Cutlery, and in 1929 started George Schrade Knife Company of Bridgeport, CT, using the Presto logo.
Invented the Pull Ball and Wire Jack knives.
He died around 1940 which was about the time this knife was made. It sold for 10 cents when a good pocket knife sold for 50 to 70 cents.
Gravdigr • Dec 30, 2015 3:27 pm
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xoxoxoBruce • Dec 30, 2015 5:59 pm
Interesting comment at youtube.
Don't know where you get that def, Bob, it's not accurate to any pilot. A flare, as I do now in 767s, (at least usually) is rotating nose-up, decreasing rate of descent to cushion landing. When we trap on the boat, we don't flare one RCH. Fly meatball, lineup, AOA on a straight line to impact. Even think of flaring, and you miss the wires, go around, and get a "bolter" grade (2.5).
I never realized on carrier landings they straight in, I thought they would flare before the ship then level out to land. Maybe they did with prop planes. :smack:
Undertoad • Dec 30, 2015 6:55 pm
xoxoxoBruce;950052 wrote:
we don't flare one RCH


RCH is an industry term
Gravdigr • Dec 31, 2015 5:19 pm
"one RCH"

One red cunthair, is exactly where I went. But, I thought I was entertaining myself, I didn't know I was right.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 31, 2015 6:34 pm
Of course you were right, it's an industry term.
Gravdigr • Jan 2, 2016 5:34 pm
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zippyt • Jan 4, 2016 12:24 pm
There aint nuthen , NUTHEN , like shooting a belt fed !!!!!!!
Cool armor to .
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xoxoxoBruce • Jan 4, 2016 8:24 pm
Have you tried an Atomic Cannon, Zip? :haha:
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 8, 2016 2:01 am
Aberdeen Proving Ground, 1942.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 13, 2016 4:33 pm
A 16" gun shoots a 2370 lb projectile, using 1050 lbs of powder! OK, it's 1898 so black powder, but still over a half ton of the shit. Boom... badaboom.. BIG badaboom.
Gravdigr • Jan 14, 2016 3:41 pm
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Millennium Gun
Gravdigr • Jan 15, 2016 2:37 pm
This Is the Game-Changing Missile That the U.K. Will Use Against ISIS

Brimstone Missile
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 15, 2016 4:26 pm
We don't have that because we don't give a fuck about collateral damage, innocents shouldn't associate with/shelter bad guys, let god sort them out.
Gravdigr • Jan 16, 2016 3:23 pm
Forgotten Weapons: Charlton Automatic Rifle

How an ancient bolt-action New Zealand rifle was turned into [a] very awkward but inventive automatic during World War II.

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Gravdigr • Jan 27, 2016 12:50 pm
Is titanium bulletproof?

.22LR: Yep.
9mm: Yep.
5.56: Yep.
7.62:Yep.
.45-70Govt: Yep.
.50BMG: I don't think so, Scooter.

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If you haven't watched any of the Demolition Ranch vids on YouTube, do yourself a favor and click over there when you have the time. Good stuff.

Is it just me, or, does dude kinda/sorta look like Matt Damon?
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 27, 2016 6:24 pm
I love that 45-70 Henry. :joylove:
zippyt • Jan 27, 2016 8:53 pm
The 50 didnt go THRU, even the AP round , Now it made 1 hell of a gouge but it didnt hole the plate
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 28, 2016 4:21 am
Should be available in the next three weeks...
Gravdigr • Jan 28, 2016 1:12 pm
I saw pics of that. I somehow missed that it was a shotgun round.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 28, 2016 10:29 pm
Pretty knife...
fargon • Jan 29, 2016 6:20 am
That blade looks very fragile. But it is pretty.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 29, 2016 12:13 pm
Maybe it's a prison shiv, where you stab then break the blade off flush. ;)
Pamela • Jan 29, 2016 11:09 pm
Cutest pistol ever!
BigV • Jan 29, 2016 11:40 pm
Whoa!
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 30, 2016 12:24 am
Cute, except it's not a pistol, it's a music box.
Gravdigr • Jan 30, 2016 3:42 pm
A couple westerns I've read referred to the pistol as a 'music box'...

Even Marshal Stockburn, from 'Pale Rider' liked a little 'dancing music':

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Gravdigr • Feb 4, 2016 12:11 pm
Aaand, if you like your music a little softer:

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Aaand, here it is on a Barrett .50. This thing is insane, the spent brass hitting the floor is louder than firing the rifle:

No audio on first half, don't know why. Worth the wait, though!

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:devil:
Gravdigr • Feb 5, 2016 2:09 pm
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xoxoxoBruce • Feb 13, 2016 4:57 pm
Britain's best weapon is the ladies, who inspire the men to go subdue the world and to fight tooth and nail to get home to.
Gravdigr • Feb 14, 2016 5:51 pm
I'm not sure about the cool factor of the drone, but, it's a cool picture:

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xoxoxoBruce • Feb 16, 2016 11:42 pm
I posted a link in "parenting" for a free coloring book from the National archives. It's 16 pages of original patent application drawings, some of which are off the wall, but these two are military. The first is a submarine from 1883 that makes it look pretty simple, although reading about the outcome of those first attempts, says it's not. The second is a landing craft that prove so valuable on D-Day.
Gravdigr • Feb 17, 2016 2:21 pm
It's a Higgins Boat!

[size=1]Ain't it?...Nevermind, I see his name, now.[/size]:D
Gravdigr • Feb 17, 2016 2:24 pm
Andrew Higgins ... is the man who won the war for us. ... If Higgins had not designed and built those LCVPs, we never could have landed over an open beach. The whole strategy of the war would have been different.


~Eisenhower
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 17, 2016 2:42 pm
I was surprised to read they were plywood, although it says the survivor found in Alaska has armor plate.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 17, 2016 9:06 pm
Higgins PT Boats
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 24, 2016 2:14 am
I suspect this didn't fly because... black powder. :eek2:
Gravdigr • Feb 25, 2016 2:08 pm
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xoxoxoBruce • Feb 25, 2016 7:25 pm
I guess a speedloader is out of the question. :rolleyes:
Gravdigr • Feb 26, 2016 5:04 pm
Well, the only two people big enough to work a speedloader are too old for the navy...Brawny, and The Jolly Green Giant.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 26, 2016 9:40 pm
Hulk, but his attitude would be a handicap in the Navy. :haha:
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 1, 2016 12:03 pm
AK variables...
Gravdigr • Mar 7, 2016 2:08 pm
Spc. Joseph Gibson is a cool weapon.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 7, 2016 4:30 pm
The assailant ripped off Gibson's helmet and all his night vision optics; reached for something hidden beneath in his clothing (the detonator to his suicide vest); and screamed "Bomb!" in English.


"I got my weapon into his stomach and fired," Gibson said. "He came back to consciousness after that, (but) I knew I got him. I stood up and neutralized him."

Gibson shot him at very close range knowing he was wearing a bomb?:eek:
Gravdigr • Mar 7, 2016 4:57 pm
xoxoxoBruce;955006 wrote:
Gibson shot him at very close range knowing he was wearing a bomb?:eek:


I kinda stumbled on that, too.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 11, 2016 6:24 am
At the first part of WW I mines were a big problem, as countries laid them to protect their own harbors and blocking enemy harbors. Neutral countries found themselves mined it too. Enter the Paravane...
The wings of the paravane would tend to force the body away from the towing ship, placing a lateral tension on the towing wire.
If the tow cable snagged the cable anchoring a mine then the anchoring cable would be cut, allowing the mine to float to the surface where it could be destroyed by gunfire. If the anchor cable would not part, the mine and the paravane would be brought together and the mine would explode harmlessly against the paravane. The cable could then be retrieved and a replacement paravane fitted.

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Lieutenant Burney developed explosive paravanes as an anti-submarine weapon, a "high speed sweep". It was a paravane, containing
80 pounds (36 kg) of TNT towed by an armoured electric cable. The warhead was fired automatically as soon as the submarine touched
the paravane or towing cable or by hand from the ship's bridge. It could be quickly deployed into the water, could be towed up to

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I read somewhere by the end of the war they had conscripted so many trawlers for minesweeping there was a shortage of fish in the markets.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 13, 2016 10:46 am
Legends...
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 17, 2016 12:26 am
Pistola...
Gravdigr • Mar 19, 2016 3:36 pm
This video includes what has to be some of the least used equipment on a submarine: A shovel (maybe), a snow shovel, and a phucking chain saw...

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...then again, if you're a nuclear submarine diddling the north pole with your conning tower, I guess that shit comes in handy.
Gravdigr • Mar 19, 2016 3:37 pm
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Gravdigr • Mar 21, 2016 3:18 pm
That Time An SR-71 Made An Emergency Landing In Norway After Spying On The Soviets

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xoxoxoBruce • Mar 29, 2016 12:21 am
Um, no thanks, I'm going home.
Clodfobble • Mar 29, 2016 8:12 am
One hen, two ducks, three squawking geese...
Gravdigr • Mar 29, 2016 4:15 pm
Dammit! Stop making me learn stuff!

Seven thousand Macedonian warriors in full battle array
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 29, 2016 4:33 pm
When I found the picture it was just labeled Macedonian Phalanx.
I wondered if anyone would pick up on that title. :haha:
BigV • Mar 29, 2016 5:21 pm
You'll poke your eye out.
Gravdigr • Apr 5, 2016 4:47 pm
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xoxoxoBruce • Apr 16, 2016 5:59 pm
Back in the early 50's this dude invented the Rhino for patrolling northern Canada and Alaska. Don't want them commies coming over the pole, ya know.
But the military didn't buy it, saying a couple of slugs in the front wheels would cause them to fill with water and sink.
I guess foam technology wasn't up to speed yet.
I'd imagine they would be spendy to buy and maintain, when a handful of nukes should keep the commies at bay.

I'll bet Cubby Broccoli would be in for a couple.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 21, 2016 12:55 am
Peashooter
Gravdigr • Apr 26, 2016 1:37 pm
The USS Laffey, "The Ship That Wouldn't Die":

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:devil:
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 26, 2016 1:52 pm
Holy shit, 22 rounds per barrel per minute. :eek:
He say Kamikazes, more than once, but they looked like dive bombers to me. Semantics, I know, but still.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 27, 2016 12:25 am
Evidently the old fakes are highly collectable... go figure. :crazy:
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 28, 2016 7:35 pm
I doubt very much any of these in service looked like this one, as it would kind of give away position, but sure is Purdy.
Gravdigr • Apr 30, 2016 3:36 pm
It still worked.


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xoxoxoBruce • Apr 30, 2016 6:58 pm
It's called patina camo, much more environmentally friendly than paint and oil are. :rolleyes:
xoxoxoBruce • May 3, 2016 9:28 pm
For $1.98 + .37 shipping, every boy should have a machine gun...
Pamela • May 4, 2016 6:37 am
reading the text, it sounds more like a semi-automatic replica. The text also talks about "pellets" instead of bullets.

Also, the hyperbole and likely milieu of the ad tends to make me think of comic books and similar publications. The ones where you could also buy plans to build a hovercraft (or UFO) out of mom's vacuum cleaner motor, speedy go karts and sea monkeys. But when you get you new weapon of mass destruction, you find that it is plastic, six inches high and fires paper wads.

Not that *I* ever bought any of that stuff, you understand. But there was this one kid I knew....
xoxoxoBruce • May 4, 2016 10:57 am
What do you expect for $1.98, this is good for teaching tactics and how not to shoot your eye out.
Gravdigr • May 8, 2016 4:18 pm
These are all the planes in the US Air Force.

I'm not sure that statement is 100% accurate, but, what do I know.
Griff • May 8, 2016 5:37 pm
That may reflect Air Force... Its missing a number of aircraft that may only be used in other services.
Gravdigr • May 8, 2016 5:43 pm
That's a thought.
xoxoxoBruce • May 8, 2016 6:33 pm
And hourly cost to operate...
xoxoxoBruce • May 8, 2016 7:37 pm
Cut up all the weapons...
zippyt • May 8, 2016 11:33 pm
Freaken 4 Bore !!!!!!!
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xoxoxoBruce • May 9, 2016 1:02 am
Jesus, he likes to hear himself talk. But the guns are cool, although a little big for plinking rats. Also a mite spendy at $1,000 a round.
glatt • May 9, 2016 10:46 am
xoxoxoBruce;959576 wrote:
Cut up all the weapons...


I've seen water jets used to cut thing clean in half to see. How are these cut so that only a chunk is removed and not cut cleanly in half? A band saw would need to pass clean through and out the other side. A water jet would need to pass clean through. How do they do this? An angle grinder? Milling machine?
xoxoxoBruce • May 9, 2016 11:08 am
It could have been cut with a reciprocating saw, a torch, an abrasive wheel, plasma cutter, a milling machine, or magic erasure. It could be a water jet, just flood the inside of the barrel.
Gravdigr • May 9, 2016 1:38 pm
xoxoxoBruce;959593 wrote:
Also a mite spendy at $1,000 a round.


I didn't watch 23 minutes of that vid to find out, but, seriously? $1,000 a round? What are they made from? Gold? Platinum? Children of the rich and famous?

That sounds like complete and utter fucking bullshit.

Is the mining of the brass and lead, and the gasoline and oil and equipment to do so, included in that price?

Popdigr has a small lathe. I'll pop that sumbitch out all the rounds he wants at a grand a pop.

$1,000 a round has just got to be bullshit.
Gravdigr • May 9, 2016 2:11 pm
Alright, I just watched that entire excruciating video, and I must have missed the part where he mentions $1,000 a round ammo.

At YouTube, however, the video description does mention that the box of 10 rounds of antique ammo sold for $20,700. Antique ammunition. $2000+ per.

Also, I don't think someone let him fire thousands of dollars worth of antique ammo just for fun. He was firing modern replica ammo, at best.

I laughed out loud when he shouldered the gun the second time on the other shoulder. The slo-mo shots were priceless. That guy won't fire another shoulder-fired weapon for a month.
zippyt • May 9, 2016 2:57 pm
How do they do this? An angle grinder? Milling machine?

Fricken Lazerbeams !!!!!!!!!
Gravdigr • May 9, 2016 3:34 pm
Some laser pointer company needs to change their company name to Fricken.
Gravdigr • May 9, 2016 3:38 pm
I wonder if an EDM machine could accomplish the task as pictured?

They're pretty awesome.
xoxoxoBruce • May 9, 2016 5:27 pm
Yes, but EDM is more complex than necessary for that cut.

In the video he didn't say what the ammo cost so I went looking for it. All I could find was a box the video guy's company is putting up for auction later this month. Somebody on a forum said the auction estimate was $3000 to $5000 for a box of 5. I thought maybe it was high because it's antique ammo, but I couldn't find anyone that makes it now. Another guy in that forum gave the name of some guy in England who would make the shells if you wanted to load them yourself. They also said at one time the Russians made 4 bore paper shells for their flare guns.
fargon • May 9, 2016 5:39 pm
I have seen training aids like that back in the 60's I asked my Dad the teacher, and he said they did it with a grinder.
xoxoxoBruce • May 15, 2016 2:52 am
Stock carving...
classicman • May 15, 2016 10:41 am
Not my style, but I can appreciate it.
xoxoxoBruce • May 15, 2016 12:47 pm
Yes, the craftsmanship is nice regardless of the canvas or theme.
Gravdigr • May 15, 2016 4:53 pm
USS Iowa

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xoxoxoBruce • May 21, 2016 10:31 pm
Hornet's Nest...
xoxoxoBruce • May 26, 2016 12:54 am
I haven't seen something this stupid since... maybe yesterday. :rolleyes:
Gravdigr • May 27, 2016 4:04 pm
Must be going to the ass-kicking contest...
xoxoxoBruce • May 29, 2016 12:37 am
Sorry, I can't make it any smaller and legible. That Spanish ship the US Navy sunk in 1898 Cuba. That $1 would be $28 today. Shipping?
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 1, 2016 12:30 pm
Well, ya gotta start somewhere if ya wanna have a tank corps.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 4, 2016 2:18 pm
Now they're even more certain King Tut's knife was fashioned from a meteorite.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 7, 2016 11:36 pm
I wouldn't call it a weapon, more like art.
Gravdigr • Jun 9, 2016 4:17 pm
Filename says "threef16sandoneb2", but, I think the one on the far right is an F-18.

Maybe.

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xoxoxoBruce • Jun 10, 2016 12:36 am
Tony Stewart's Smoke Show is a chance to pay big bucks spending a day at the race track making tire smoke with Stewart. All the money goes to charities. These pistols auctioned off for $35,000.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 24, 2016 12:38 pm
They look like GIs but they're German troops in Russia.
footfootfoot • Jun 24, 2016 12:59 pm
xoxoxoBruce;958480 wrote:
Holy shit, 22 rounds per barrel per minute. :eek:
He say Kamikazes, more than once, but they looked like dive bombers to me. Semantics, I know, but still.


Dive Bomber = Kamikaze who chickened out.
footfootfoot • Jun 24, 2016 1:06 pm
xoxoxoBruce;961012 wrote:
I haven't seen something this stupid since... maybe yesterday. :rolleyes:


Cat's probably thinking, "Yeah, go ahead and shoot the other foot now."
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 25, 2016 1:16 am
Yes, just a little finger's difference.
Gravdigr • Jul 25, 2016 4:20 pm
Do You Need a Handheld Minigun? Of Course You Do.

The XM556 Microgun was designed at Empty Shell &#8220;one guy over the last two and a half years with no training, no college, just a GED&#8221; and it is what every American has dreamed of since he first saw Predator and watched the forest get melted by a minigun.


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:devil:
Pamela • Jul 25, 2016 7:31 pm
You beat me to it!
Gravdigr • Jul 26, 2016 1:54 pm
:D
Gravdigr • Jul 30, 2016 3:55 pm
GAU-22 on the F-35 Lightning II:

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3,300 rounds per minute = 55 rounds per second
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 25, 2016 3:31 pm
More weird than cool...
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 26, 2016 7:49 pm
More weird...
Gravdigr • Aug 27, 2016 1:37 pm
Definitely weird.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 27, 2016 1:39 pm
More weird...
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 29, 2016 2:50 pm
More weirder...
Gravdigr • Aug 29, 2016 3:31 pm
The Villar-Perosa fired a 9mm round at 1500 rounds per minute.
Gravdigr • Aug 29, 2016 4:30 pm
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Good God!! Think of the hole that round will leave in your intruder, and the damage that will be done to his person.

:thumb:
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 29, 2016 4:51 pm
I'll have to load the Streetsweeper with those.
footfootfoot • Aug 31, 2016 1:44 pm
Holy crap. Even if someone were to survive being shot with that slug, I bet they'll wish they hadn't.
zippyt • Aug 31, 2016 4:53 pm
and as a bonus the cases are turned brass not plastis with a brass skirt
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 31, 2016 5:27 pm
How about a Rossi Ranch Hand, 12" barrel hand gun...
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 29, 2016 1:29 pm
Hermann's...
John Sellers • Sep 29, 2016 2:15 pm
Stuxnet
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 5, 2016 5:41 pm
DoubleTap...
Gravdigr • Oct 6, 2016 1:09 pm
I've thought about one of those.

But, if I'm going somewhere I need to carry a gun, Ima want more than two rounds, and don't want loose rounds in m'pockets.
Gravdigr • Oct 11, 2016 4:19 pm
Here is a story about a cool weapon.

And I don't mean his knife.

Cpl. Samuel Toloza just might be a genuine badass.

This ‘El Sal’ corporal attacked the Mahdi Army with a [strike]switchblade[/strike] pocketknife – and won.
fargon • Oct 12, 2016 7:43 am
Mr. Toloza is a Cool Weapon.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 11, 2016 5:42 pm
Owning this is strictly for bragging rights, you ain't gonna put meat on the table with that.
Gravdigr • Nov 15, 2016 7:11 pm
Not cool weapons, here, but rather, hot weapons, 5250 of them.

Burning weapons in Kenya

A pile of 5,250 illegal weapons are burned by Kenyan police in Ngong, near Nairobi, in Kenya Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2016. The weapons consisted of both confiscated and surrendered firearms that had been stockpiled over almost a decade and were destroyed by police as a message to the public to surrender others. (AP Photo/Ben Curtis)


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Pamela • Nov 15, 2016 7:25 pm
TCH! Such a waste!
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 15, 2016 7:37 pm
I've seen pictures like that before, in other African countries.
zippyt • Nov 15, 2016 10:04 pm
Ive seen simaler with the FBI in a steel mill swat guys throwing Aks G3s M16s ets,,, in the furnace , it hurt my hart
footfootfoot • Nov 15, 2016 11:59 pm
Gravdigr;970943 wrote:
Here is a story about a cool weapon.

And I don't mean his knife.

Cpl. Samuel Toloza just might be a genuine badass.

This ‘El Sal’ corporal attacked the Mahdi Army with a [strike]switchblade[/strike] pocketknife – and won.


...the teacher asked,"And what is the moral of that story?" "You don't fuck with uncle Samuel when he's been drinking."
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 16, 2016 10:02 am
Toloza had just picked up the knife at a quick PX stop before heading out, the BBC World Service reported. It cost him a dollar.

So it was a Buck knife. ;)
footfootfoot • Nov 16, 2016 11:03 am
:facepalm:
classicman • Nov 16, 2016 11:35 am
ba da dum.
Gravdigr • Nov 30, 2016 3:10 pm
...because purses are for lipstick.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 30, 2016 4:01 pm
She took the clip out of each gun, but never cleared the chamber on any of them. Image
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 30, 2016 7:16 pm
In Syria right now...

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Gravdigr • Dec 1, 2016 1:51 pm
xoxoxoBruce;975099 wrote:
She took the clip out of each gun, but never cleared the chamber on any of them. Image


Clips were empty, if that helps...But, yeah, she shoulda.
sexobon • Dec 2, 2016 12:28 pm
xoxoxoBruce;975099 wrote:
She took the clip out of each gun, but never cleared the chamber on any of them. Image

Many pistols have a magazine disconnect which renders them inoperable if the magazine is even partially out.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 2, 2016 6:36 pm
Most don't, that's why there's so many accidental shootings while demonstrating or cleaning guns.
sexobon • Dec 2, 2016 7:31 pm
I bet the safeties were on so there wouldn't be any accidental discharges while she was being groped.
fargon • Dec 3, 2016 8:44 am
I have been handling firearms since I was a small child, and have never figured out how to clean a loaded gun.
sexobon • Dec 3, 2016 10:40 am
Handload your own bore brush sabot rounds.
glatt • Dec 5, 2016 7:54 am
fargon;975303 wrote:
I have been handling firearms since I was a small child, and have never figured out how to clean a loaded gun.


There's a bullet hole in some crown molding in the dining room of the house where my mother grew up. My grandfather told me he asked the guy who was cleaning his rifle before their hunting trip if it was unloaded and he was assured it was. Awkward.

Imagine going over to someone else's house and putting a bullet in their ceiling.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 25, 2016 12:43 am
Because it's nice to know what's causing your painful death...
Gravdigr • Dec 25, 2016 4:06 pm
Cool.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 15, 2017 3:22 pm
Deadly and quiet...
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 18, 2017 10:01 am
Smith & Wesson Governor...
sexobon • Feb 18, 2017 3:14 pm
Indoor duck hunting.
Gravdigr • Feb 18, 2017 3:54 pm
Personal household defense, sir.

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That will leave a mark.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 19, 2017 6:48 pm
Hawaiian War Club of Koa wood and shark teeth.
BigV • Feb 19, 2017 9:10 pm
That would Fuck. You. Up.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 22, 2017 11:42 pm
Now this is getting ridiculous...
Gravdigr • Feb 23, 2017 4:02 pm
That's a handful.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 1, 2017 5:42 pm
Well it's not cool but it's certainly a formidable weapon.
I guess because it was taken by the boss man it's cool.
BigV • Mar 1, 2017 9:04 pm
How many A-10s do you think it would take to "win" a battle against what we see here? And by win, I mean reducing all your enemies weapons destructive capability to a negligible level. I count fifty-six vehicles there, obviously not all tanks, some tankers, some motorcycles, some deuce and a halfs, etc.

One? Four? More?
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 1, 2017 10:10 pm
If you're going to use A-10s, then you have to give the SAMs and air cover.
zippyt • Mar 1, 2017 10:16 pm
Why ?

and i say 5 would prolly do a good job
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 1, 2017 10:22 pm
Because that's a 1940 army, if you move them up to A-10 time they'll have modernized.
glatt • Mar 2, 2017 8:12 am
In a fictional battle, you can have anything you want.

Remember that cheesy movie from the 70s or early 80s where the nuclear aircraft carrier Nimitz goes back in time to the attack on pearl harbor?
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 2, 2017 11:12 am
Nein! Generalmajor Rommel nein einreichen unsinn Scheiß quatschen!Image
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 20, 2017 8:41 pm
Well I don't think this qualifies as cool, but it is a weapon. A 47 pound(21.32kg), 1.5 gage, muzzle loading punt gun. Handy if you want to sink a large boat I guess. But he doesn't show what kind of damage it can do. :(

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burns334 • Mar 22, 2017 10:58 am
The "man in black" in Westworld carries and interesting pistol, a LeMat 1861, 9 shot plus one shot gun shell
BigV • Mar 22, 2017 12:23 pm
"just in case"
Gravdigr • Mar 25, 2017 5:10 pm
Tomahawk, incoming.

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zippyt • Mar 25, 2017 9:03 pm
hey that truck has a Flat !!!
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 26, 2017 2:34 am
Maybe he just dug the tires in trying to GTFO. :lol:

This is a set I wouldn't leave in the car.
Gravdigr • Mar 26, 2017 2:32 pm
zippyt;985147 wrote:
hey that truck has a Flat !!!


Not anymore. It just blew up.

See what I did there?^^^:D
Gravdigr • Mar 26, 2017 2:33 pm
xoxoxoBruce;985157 wrote:
This is a set I wouldn't leave in the car.


Vurry nize.
Gravdigr • Mar 27, 2017 3:44 pm
That time Marines in a firefight called customer service for help with a Barrett .50 M-107
Flint • Mar 27, 2017 6:15 pm
That is nuts. Well, good tech support is always great, when you can get it. Nothing better than someone who really knows the product.
Griff • Mar 29, 2017 7:06 am
I pulled my gear out of the bag over the weekend... I think my weapons are cool.
glatt • Mar 29, 2017 8:46 am
Indeed
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 29, 2017 11:56 am
Yes indeed, manly weapons... even if your daughter can beat you with them, you're still a swashbuckler. :thumb:
Gravdigr • Mar 29, 2017 3:11 pm
xoxoxoBruce;985461 wrote:
... even if your daughter can beat you with them...


:lol2:

I about epee'd m'self.
Gravdigr • Apr 5, 2017 2:12 pm
Go to Vega$. Drop a grand at the shooting range. Shoot anything. Shoot everything:

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Pamela • Apr 8, 2017 6:13 pm
That Bren had quite a muzzle flash.

There are worse ways to blow a grand in Vegas. Looks like he had a blast (see what I did there?), kept some good memories and got a souvenir video to prove it.

Maybe I'll do it someday. Right after I rent a P-51 in Kissimmee FL for $500 an hour, just to say I flew one.
Gravdigr • Apr 10, 2017 3:42 pm
Tomahawk airburst:

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BigV • Apr 10, 2017 11:16 pm
that's interesting.
Gravdigr • Apr 25, 2017 3:43 pm
Looks like there are some kinks to be worked out, but:

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xoxoxoBruce • May 4, 2017 3:36 pm
I wouldn't want this thing around with that trigger gaurd. :eyebrow:
Gravdigr • May 4, 2017 4:23 pm
Well, it is DAO, but, still...:headshake
xoxoxoBruce • May 4, 2017 4:26 pm
It's up for auction.
How about something for Mom?
Gravdigr • May 4, 2017 4:49 pm
Momdigr used to have a pink-gripped Ruger SP101.

The matching ammo pouch is a nice touch.
BigV • May 4, 2017 6:09 pm
Silver bullets or GTFO.
sexobon • May 4, 2017 6:09 pm
xoxoxoBruce;988016 wrote:
I wouldn't want this thing around with that trigger gaurd. :eyebrow:

Gravdigr;988033 wrote:
Well, it is DAO, but, still...:headshake

Those modifications were so it could be carried and fired from inside a coat pocket, the long coats with deep pockets from that firearm's heyday. Smooth grips, bobbed hammer, rear sight notch and front sight blade were to reduce snagging on pocket material. Some of them even had all the sharp angles of the frame and cylinder radiused. It saved wear and tear on the pockets too.

The cut out trigger guard was so pocket material wouldn't keep you from squeezing the trigger even if material got wadded up; or, stretched out alongside the guard, The bobbed hammer didn't actually make the revolver DAO. The trigger could still squeezed slightly to raise the hammer far enough for it could be thumb cocked SA style; however, it was intended for just DA use.

With today's style of coats and their smaller pockets, the safety tradeoff of a cut out trigger guard isn't worthwhile.
xoxoxoBruce • May 5, 2017 12:32 am
With the cut trigger guard it's harder to maintain trigger discipline like Annie.
Maybe Dr Dana's great grandmother, looks a little like her.
xoxoxoBruce • May 6, 2017 12:48 pm
Sometimes you can bring a knife to a gunfight.
If that doesn't work there's air power.
Gravdigr • May 6, 2017 5:40 pm
Hah! It shoots spark plugs!
xoxoxoBruce • May 6, 2017 11:15 pm
That's how the Red Dawn people in Idaho will defeat the tanks and A-10 Warthogs, if the hose is long enough and the compressor don't quit. :lol:

Well, how you gonna defeat thousands of armed men scattered through the forest, like when we beat the Redcoats? :sniper:

Spend five minutes vaporizing the forest. Image
xoxoxoBruce • May 11, 2017 2:19 am
For close encounters...
xoxoxoBruce • May 14, 2017 9:01 pm
18th century...
zippyt • May 14, 2017 11:31 pm
i found a new toy
xoxoxoBruce • May 15, 2017 12:02 am
You've got to be shitting me. 1 inch cartridge with a 2 inch barrel. :lol2:
sexobon • May 15, 2017 12:31 am
Hard to tell; but, it looks like a smooth hammer. It could be a little longer for fanning just in case you're charged by a small herd of elephants.

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Gravdigr • May 15, 2017 4:05 pm
He doesn't draw, but, Jerry Miculek got off twelve rounds with a revolver in, I think 3.7 seconds, including a reload.
xoxoxoBruce • May 24, 2017 12:44 am
Tusks are like bayonets, for close order fighting.
But if you really want to win don't bring tusks to a gun fight.
sexobon • May 25, 2017 10:19 am
That armament system has an Achilles' heel. It can be taken out with a derringer strapped to a mouse.

That's right, mouse gun beats elephant gun.
Gravdigr • May 26, 2017 2:26 pm
I didn't know whether to go to "Rims", with this, or, come here.

I came here.

I want one:

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No tailgatin'.


ETA: Ima guess it's a grill/smoker/cooker.
BigV • May 27, 2017 10:55 am
"Hotshot BBQ"

"Six-gun Smokers"
sexobon • May 27, 2017 11:20 am
That's was a prototype for the top secret Revolver Cannon. The war ended before it went into production. It must've finally been declassified.
xoxoxoBruce • May 27, 2017 12:00 pm
I the gun was completed but the efforts to build a super dude to shoot it failed. ;)
Gravdigr • Jun 1, 2017 1:10 pm
I put this in "Cool Weapons' cuz the men, the plane, and the carrier are/were all Cool Weapons:

Here's a sea burial you may not have read about: Loyce Edward Deen, an Aviation Machinist Mate 2nd class, USNR, was a gunner on a TBM Avenger. On November 5, 1944, Deen's squadron participated in a raid on Manila where his plane was hit multiple times by anti-aircraft fire while attacking a Japanese cruiser. Deen was killed. The avenger's pilot, Lt Robert Cosgrove, managed to return to his carrier, the USS Essex. Both Deen and the plane had been shot up so badly that it was decided to leave him in the plane. It is the only time in US Navy history -- and probably US military history -- that an aviator was buried in his aircraft after being killed in action.


Rick, via Ernie's House Of Whoop Ass

No sound:

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In Memory Of Loyce Edward Deen
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 6, 2017 12:53 pm
The Russians were clever, I wonder how many of these they actually had?
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 10, 2017 12:23 am
That's gonna hurt...
Gravdigr • Jun 10, 2017 2:18 pm
:headshake
Big Sarge • Jun 11, 2017 6:20 pm
I've seen many drawings/paintings of camel cannons but never a photo. Supposedly, they are real. Now, the gatling guns on camels are well documented

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xoxoxoBruce • Jun 11, 2017 9:50 pm
That doesn't seem plausible. it would have to be a very, very light load not to kick that saddle over.
Big Sarge • Jun 11, 2017 11:05 pm
xoxoxoBruce;990556 wrote:
That doesn't seem plausible. it would have to be a very, very light load not to kick that saddle over.


Here's a photo of a swivel gun type that was probably had a 1 inch bore. I agree with you about the cannon in the first illustration. I hope to one day find a photo of a larger bore cannon which shows what and how it was mounted.

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xoxoxoBruce • Jun 11, 2017 11:35 pm
That better be a long range gun or he'll shoot the camels head off. :lol:
Big Sarge • Jun 12, 2017 2:06 pm
I'm waiting for a concealed carry version.......

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Gravdigr • Jun 12, 2017 2:32 pm
Hey there, Sarge!

Very good to hear from you.
Big Sarge • Jun 13, 2017 10:53 pm
Gravdigr;990612 wrote:
Hey there, Sarge!

Very good to hear from you.


Thanks. I'm still alive.
Griff • Jun 14, 2017 7:21 am
Big Sarge;990721 wrote:
Thanks. I'm still alive.


I see that. Congrats!
fargon • Jun 14, 2017 3:39 pm
Hi Sarge how's it going.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 18, 2017 12:02 am
At least after the war the fields will be tilled for planting. :rolleyes:
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 21, 2017 4:17 pm
Your uber is here...

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xoxoxoBruce • Jun 29, 2017 10:46 am
Preppers...
Gravdigr • Jun 29, 2017 4:39 pm
How NOT to do it:

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From the vid description:

This an ISAF soldier on Camp Leatherneck Afghanistan, who, upon clearing his MG3 machine gun, didn't do so in textbook fashion. Now obviously there isn't any time to waste while under fire, but this is a prime example of why the 5 point safety check is often taught with open bolt weapon systems. Fortunately the soldier wasn't badly injured and only had his cheek ripped open instead of the back of the 7.62 round impacting his face head on, literally.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 3, 2017 1:54 am
Trench war...
Gravdigr • Jul 3, 2017 3:40 pm
Never saw that one.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 5, 2017 2:10 am
Pay attention boys and girls, this is why you must change your clothes and scrub your hands and face, before the cops arrive. :cool:
Gravdigr • Jul 5, 2017 2:56 pm
And for the love of God keep that left thumb down and away from the front of the cylinder!

Unless it offends thee. And then, by all means, poke it up there.

Also, waaay too much finger on the trigger.
Gravdigr • Jul 15, 2017 4:58 pm
You've probably seen this guy, the dude from Vet Ranch, and Demolition Ranch. Dude makes some edutaining videos.

This time he's putting a .40 Hi-Point pistol through it's paces.

Yep, no doubt about it, the Hi-Point is not a tough gun:

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What a lily-livered gun this is.:right:

Better bigger.
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 10, 2017 5:05 pm
Bergmann
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 10, 2017 8:33 am
Cop - Drop the weapon!
Me - What are you crazy? This is a rare masterpiece of craftsmanship!
Cop - BOOM, BOOM, BOOM!
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 27, 2017 10:21 am
I don't know about "cool" but is is a weapon. Single shot pocket pistol that fires 7.62x39 ammo which is the same as an AK or my AR. In a video testing it with three different brands of ammo, they needed a plastic wedge and hammer to open the barrel after each round. :eyebrow:
In the video it didn't look too bad firing but the ultra slo-mo shows a big flash.
Gravdigr • Oct 28, 2017 3:59 pm
To hell with a single-shot pistola.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 29, 2017 12:12 pm
TGIF, it's been a rough week.
zippyt • Oct 29, 2017 5:41 pm
I shot a .45-70 Thompson Contender ONCE , it was NOT a Pleasant thing !!!
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 29, 2017 10:40 pm
I know what you mean Zip, the guys who shoot those cannons remind me of the guys I used to work with, who'd bring in their homemade hot pepper relish the stand there with sweat and tears running down their face telling how good it was. :rolleyes:
Gravdigr • Nov 1, 2017 1:18 am
zippyt;997840 wrote:
I shot a .45-70 Thompson Contender ONCE , it was NOT a Pleasant thing !!!


I bet it wasn't. My wrist hurts thinking about it.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 3, 2017 12:54 am
This is what the Russians are up to... I see flaws.

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Gravdigr • Nov 3, 2017 2:03 pm
I see a lot of flaws.
glatt • Nov 3, 2017 2:27 pm
The CGI is good though.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 3, 2017 8:50 pm
Yes a very polished presentation. Notice how all those rocket shaped guns they dropped from the plane sunk into the soil exactly the right amount.:rolleyes:
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 3, 2017 8:51 pm
Tommy will always be a badass...
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 5, 2017 12:59 am
WW I, the war to end all wars, both sides used phony dead horses to conceal snipers.
Gravdigr • Nov 5, 2017 12:59 pm
xoxoxoBruce;998120 wrote:
Tommy will always be a badass...


Nothing like a trench broom. I knew a guy who owned the genuine article, full-auto Thompson. Every time a full auto was used in a crime anywhere in America, the ATF guys came and crawled inside his ass with a flashlight.
Gravdigr • Nov 13, 2017 1:51 pm
November 13

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1947 – The Soviet Union completes development of the AK-47, one of the first proper assault rifles.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 18, 2017 1:22 am
But this shoots around corners. I'd heard it was invented for tank crews to clear enemy climbing on their tank.
sexobon • Nov 18, 2017 9:05 pm
I heard it shot boomerang shaped bullets that not only made it through the curve in the barrel; but, gave you two chances to hit the target.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 17, 2017 10:36 am
Syrian tank, Israeli rocket... bigger better.
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zippyt • Dec 17, 2017 3:58 pm
And that my friends is called cook off ,
that dude that came running around the tank ( it looks like his cover alls are half gone ) is one Lucky Mother F@@ker !!!!
Griff • Dec 17, 2017 7:35 pm
Yeah, where was that dude?
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 17, 2017 9:10 pm
I suspect not inside but behind the tank.
Gravdigr • Dec 18, 2017 3:26 pm
Griff;1000371 wrote:
Yeah, where was that dude?


I think he was taking a shit behind the tank.

I bet he shit, whether he was taking one, or not.:rolleyes:
Big Sarge • Dec 28, 2017 1:05 pm
I've been hunting with a Buffalo Classic in 45-70 this year using the 325gr Hornady FTX round. I took an 11 point with it about 3 weeks ago.

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Big Sarge • Dec 28, 2017 1:11 pm
http://player.vimeo.com/video/246550138

*Dang it. I cannot figure out the Vimeo post!
sexobon • Dec 28, 2017 1:38 pm
[VIMEO]246550138[/VIMEO]
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 28, 2017 1:47 pm
Stalked it all the way to the window.
Gravdigr • Dec 28, 2017 4:45 pm
Backstraps!!
Big Sarge • Dec 28, 2017 7:12 pm
Gravdigr;1001078 wrote:
Backstraps!!


Yep! We also processed breakfast sausage, summer sausage, and fajita strips out of this one. I ground my doe for burger.
limey • Dec 29, 2017 7:19 am
Sarge! Looking time no see! [emoji176]

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Big Sarge • Jan 1, 2018 11:28 pm
limey;1001128 wrote:
Sarge! Looking time no see! [emoji176]

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk


Hi Limey!!
Gravdigr • Jan 4, 2018 4:53 pm
But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.


:thumb:
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 8, 2018 9:56 pm
Cool Winchester...

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You can't say they don't know their market...

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Gravdigr • Jan 9, 2018 4:15 pm
Pretty cool lever gun.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 9, 2018 5:21 pm
Yeah, if it was ceremonial rather than just local custom then the barrel probably isn't shot out either.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 26, 2018 10:50 pm
Oh that, that's my portable keyboard, I'm a musician on my way to play at an FOP lodge dance.
sexobon • Jan 27, 2018 3:14 am
The one man band is becoming a lost art.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 9, 2018 10:50 pm
4 gage, not 12, not 10, 4 gage.

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xoxoxoBruce • Feb 13, 2018 5:25 pm
Tucker designed tanks too. 1938
Gravdigr • Feb 13, 2018 6:27 pm
If only it didn't have that third turret in the middle of the hood...:lol2:
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 13, 2018 6:52 pm
:confused:
Gravdigr • Feb 14, 2018 2:32 pm
The Tucker automobile had the third headlight thing going on...I was reaching way too far for a haha.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 14, 2018 10:59 pm
Oh, that went right over my head. :smack: You whippersnappers are too clever for me.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 23, 2018 10:54 pm
In it's day this was an awesome weapon, fired from a cannon to take out rigging.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 26, 2018 8:49 pm
Picture you upon your knees,
A tank for two and two for tank,
Just me for you
And you for me alone.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 9, 2018 11:02 pm
BOOM, Big Bada BOOM...
Gravdigr • Mar 10, 2018 3:43 pm
Now that is a scattergun.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 6, 2018 12:03 am
Grampa put it away for you...
Gravdigr • Apr 7, 2018 8:07 pm
Wild.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 11, 2018 11:44 pm
Custom built for a guy who studied bird lice in South America...
glatt • Apr 12, 2018 8:10 am
I don't know what I'm looking at. what's in the barrel on the right? what's that down below? Is there a third barrel?
zippyt • Apr 12, 2018 8:14 am
Glatt that looks like a Drilling rifel , .22 12ga and some kind of rifle caliber
glatt • Apr 12, 2018 8:21 am
So there's a third barrel for the rifle round down below? And what's that contraption in the right barrel where the .22 is??
Gravdigr • Apr 12, 2018 4:04 pm
That screw secures the .22 barrel in the space where the regular second shotgun barrel would be. I assume there is a 'barrel' in there, could just be an insert, a chamber-filling adapter, if you will. I had a drop in .22 adapter for a 12 ga. The metal tab beneath the round is the ejector.
BigV • Apr 13, 2018 9:26 am
or, the upper right barrel is the blunderbuss barrel, filled with floor sweeping from the hardware aisle.
Gravdigr • Jun 20, 2018 2:47 pm
Please check your back blast area!

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And put your watch on correctly.
fargon • Jun 20, 2018 5:37 pm
Doesn't that rocket launcher have a back blast to worry about. If he fires it that little girl will lose her head, and that would suck.
JuancoRocks • Jun 21, 2018 5:40 am
fargon;1010422 wrote:
Doesn't that rocket launcher have a back blast to worry about. If he fires it that little girl will lose her head, and that would suck.


Looks like a family meet and greet at a military graduation ceremony. No chance the launcher is loaded.
Just a picture opportunity with a training device. Look at what Junior trained on.

I was trained on a 3.5 inch rocket launcher shooting at old tanks and the back blast would injure you severely. I had a 2nd Lt as a loader and he had to remove the rocket by hand when it did not fire. Sucks to be him. We were using rockets left over from Korea and the contact band was severely oxidized.

JR
Gravdigr • Jun 21, 2018 2:53 pm
I thought it was a genuine combat mission going on.

I mean, it looks just like Afghanistan.:eyebrow:

Hey, I spelled Afghanistan right the first time!
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 2, 2018 4:02 pm
China does Starwars...
Gravdigr • Jul 2, 2018 4:39 pm
Unless it's made of a nonexistium/unobtainium alloy, that thing weighs more than 6.6 pounds.

I thought we had trouble getting a laser weapon small enough to put on a 747, or a fucking ship. China's packing them around. For $15k?

Sounds like 7 pounds of bullshit.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 2, 2018 8:09 pm
The ones we were putting on a plane had more than a half mile range, they were looking to intercept missiles.
Gravdigr • Jul 3, 2018 11:14 am
I don't know, I still get a bullshit vibe off the thing.

How does China&#8217;s claimed handheld laser rifle compare to the US and to reality?

Tripped across that article this morning.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 3, 2018 5:17 pm
Inventor seeking funding is likely to produce hyperbole. How much is the question. I can see a half mile vs 22 miles, and hand aimed at a stationary target vs tracking a moving target, would cut the size/weight considerably.
But time will tell.

Mandating non-lead shot cut water pollution, and this would do even more, but that raises the question will a dog bring back a cooked bird?
Flint • Jul 3, 2018 5:43 pm
xoxoxoBruce;1011098 wrote:
... but that raises the question will a dog bring back a cooked bird?

dog: one more big job and I can get out of the game for good
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 26, 2018 10:02 pm
Chocolate cannon...
Griff • Sep 28, 2018 7:44 am
Desperate measures.
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 17, 2018 9:36 pm
In this case, hot weapons...
Gravdigr • Oct 18, 2018 10:41 am
Gonna be a hot time in the old town tonight!
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 23, 2018 10:56 pm
On the street with no rubber cleat covers, parked on the sidewalk, blocking garages. Tow that sumbitch! Image
Gravdigr • Oct 24, 2018 3:42 pm
Yeah, we got a boot that'll fit a tank...carry one everywhere.
Happy Monkey • Oct 24, 2018 6:17 pm
I was wondering about that. Would that boot fit on a semi?


If not, I suspect it's a photoshop or an art installation.


Or maybe Mr. Tank #666 actually pissed of the local cops enough for them to special-order a supersized boot.
Gravdigr • Oct 25, 2018 4:33 pm
666...Maybe that one belongs to the Devil's Brigade?
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 10, 2018 12:07 am
WTF? Who pulls the pin?
Gravdigr • Nov 10, 2018 5:22 pm
They look...old.
Gravdigr • Nov 10, 2018 5:23 pm
See the turkey?
sexobon • Nov 10, 2018 5:29 pm
See the spotter with the field glasses? I didn't know those slingshots had that kind of range!
Diaphone Jim • Nov 11, 2018 3:48 pm
The guy holding the "y" must have been very sure of the guy holding the sling.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 12, 2018 5:45 pm
The guy holding the Y is the steering committee. :haha:
Happy Monkey • Nov 12, 2018 5:54 pm
He's also significantly more difficult to hit than the person pulling the sling is themselves. A sling can roll over, and up in front of the payload, and shoot it backwards, but it will only hit someone in the Y-holder's position if the pullback is very weak.


Of course, if the payload is a grenade, it doesn't matter a whole lot which one is hit first.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 12, 2018 6:09 pm
With luck it would knock him out before it shreds him. :lol:
Diaphone Jim • Nov 12, 2018 7:29 pm
Here, hold this nail while I give it a whack will ya?
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 20, 2018 9:43 pm
For those Europeans complaining we were late to WW II (the Big One), this is what we were doing and why you survived.

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xoxoxoBruce • Nov 26, 2018 11:56 pm
Are trenches weapons? Yeah, I guess they are sort of...
Gravdigr • Nov 27, 2018 6:28 pm
France is loaded with frenchies. Why are frenchies in France sucha big--What?

Oh.

Trenches.

Now I get it.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 4, 2018 2:23 am
The Atlanti published a bunch of photographs of Japan, taken in '44 and '45, from the national archives. They explained what each picture was, like stone tanks and wood/canvas aircraft, but couldn't come up with a clue for these two pictures.
Gravdigr • Dec 4, 2018 4:41 am
Well, obviously:right:, the first pic shows the new stealth tank. The stealth pads enable the tank to sneak right up on ya. Ya won't know nothing til BONZAI!!!!!

The item in the second pic is plainly intended for an invasion using Musk's tunnels.
sexobon • Dec 5, 2018 6:34 pm
Perhaps the first pic is of an attempt at something to traverse antipersonnel minefields.

The second pic is of a prototype bullet train.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 8, 2018 3:49 am
Jap trap...
Gravdigr • Dec 9, 2018 6:22 am
Da fuq is dis?:eyebrow:

Is this Oklahoma LEO carrying an Uzi?

Screen grab from video:

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Looks like an Uzi.

The vid is here if ya want to see him moving around widdit.
Gravdigr • Dec 9, 2018 6:28 am
For reference:

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fargon • Dec 9, 2018 10:04 am
A friend of mine has had an UZI for years, no reason for the cops not to have one.
sexobon • Dec 9, 2018 12:08 pm
Nawww, that's a paintball machine pistol. You can see the feeder resevoir on top for capsaicin powder (pepper) filled paintballs. Police in OK are swell people who use less than lethal means whenever possible.
Undertoad • Dec 9, 2018 12:15 pm
The UZI seems almost useless in Playerunknown's Battlegrounds because you can't attach a scope.
Diaphone Jim • Dec 9, 2018 12:56 pm
A scope on a machine pistol?
sexobon • Dec 9, 2018 1:09 pm
He meant to say laser sight; but, was adding mouthwash to his shopping list at the time and a switcheroo occurred.

He's getting old ya know. I hear tell that he's growing hair in his ears.
Undertoad • Dec 9, 2018 1:27 pm
Well it's a game. In PubG even a Red Dot scope is very helpful (1.5 optics and a red dot crosshair), and that can attach to some pistols, but not the Uzi. In game, it means you drop the 9mm Uzi for a 9mm UMP at your first availability. Also because the game changes from having to kill people just around the next corner, to having to kill them at 100m and out.
sexobon • Dec 9, 2018 1:47 pm
Then they should use a HK UMP. They're intentionally made with a lower cyclic rate for better controllability. The HK MP5s I used IRL were the SD3 version (sound suppressor/silencer). There are variants that take optical sights with an adapter. I didn't like the available UZIs I fired as much.
Undertoad • Dec 9, 2018 3:26 pm
Well it's a game. You parachute in, find whatever guns you might find. If you kill someone, you can loot what they have; meanwhile you go from location to location finding more things. But you may be stuck with an Uzi and a shotgun until you can find something better, and then you're useless in medium-long range fights.

A silenced SMG is very useful in the game. Giving away your location is how you die. But suppressors are kind of rare, so. You only have so much time, do you continue to look for attachments or do you find a better position? It's all very tactical, this game and that is why it's so popular.
Gravdigr • Dec 9, 2018 5:42 pm
sexobon;1020513 wrote:
I didn't like the available UZIs I fired as much.


I didn't like them either.
Gravdigr • Dec 9, 2018 5:48 pm
My kink w/OHP having/using an Uzi, is that it's not all that useful in the situation above. Why would you even want a machine gun? A semi M4 would be an infinitely better choice. There are potentially innocent ppl in the car, around you, behind the target(s). Not the situation for a gajillion rounds per minute, fired out of a three inch barrel, spray-n-pray style.

I just tripped on the unexpected Uzi, I guess.
Gravdigr • Dec 18, 2018 3:47 pm
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Flint • Dec 18, 2018 3:56 pm
that's nuts
Gravdigr • Dec 18, 2018 4:09 pm
$omething tell$ me that would not be a cheap experience.:yelgreedy
Pamela • Dec 18, 2018 8:59 pm
New bucket list item!

...This one time, at bomber camp...
Gravdigr • Dec 19, 2018 11:06 am
"So there I was, in the ball turret of a B-24, surrounded by rednecks..."
Happy Monkey • Dec 19, 2018 11:28 am
I bet that guy triple-checked the landing gear before missions.
Gravdigr • Dec 19, 2018 11:54 am
What was the movie where the plane (with a ball turret underneath) was coming with no, or not enough landing gear, with a guy trapped in the ball turret and one of the guys drew a cartoon landing gear and the plane landed on cartoon landing gear? I thought it was Memphis Belle, but, apparently I am wrong about that.

Did I imagine that? If I did, DIBS! on the storyline.
Happy Monkey • Dec 19, 2018 12:50 pm
You didn't imagine it....
glatt • Dec 19, 2018 1:00 pm
I remember that episode of Amazing Stories and remember Steven Spielberg directing it, but didn't realize there were so many stars in it.
Gravdigr • Dec 19, 2018 2:21 pm
Happy Monkey;1021354 wrote:
You didn't imagine it....


Thank you very much.:)
Undertoad • Dec 19, 2018 2:53 pm
I remember it and I remember switching off the TV in disgust.
Flint • Dec 19, 2018 3:00 pm
Miserable contrarian
:sweat: :lol2: :rotflol:
Undertoad • Dec 19, 2018 6:09 pm
Did you see the episode? Worst deus ex machina in the history of deus ex machinas.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 19, 2018 10:33 pm
Gravdigr;1021284 wrote:
$omething tell$ me that would not be a cheap experience.:yelgreedy


Its a one day camp for nearly half of the full cost. Its only $2200. Sign up for May 30th or May 31st at bombercamp.org.
Griff • Dec 20, 2018 7:56 am
Undertoad;1021379 wrote:
Did you see the episode? Worst deus ex machina in the history of deus ex machinas.


Or kind of a nice metaphor?
glatt • Dec 20, 2018 11:38 am
So it's been 20 years or so since I've seen it.

Was it the gunner or another crew member who got out their sketchbook and drew the cartoon wheel on the plane?

In any event, it was a cunning service member who saved the day. Not some supernatural outside force. :p:
Undertoad • Dec 20, 2018 12:06 pm
Spoiler,


















The belly gunner is a cartoonist and when he draws in the landing gear, it magically appears to save him. Here's a review with the full plot

http://comics-x-aminer.com/2017/01/26/review-of-amazing-stories-season-1-episode-5-the-mission/
Flint • Dec 20, 2018 1:13 pm
Undertoad DESTROYS Spielberg with facts and logic!
Undertoad • Dec 20, 2018 1:45 pm
You mad bro

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
Flint • Dec 20, 2018 1:57 pm
The only Amazing Stories I remember is where somebody has a Bag of Holding.
Gravdigr • Dec 20, 2018 2:45 pm
I used to be a dwarf named Ragnar.

I had a bag of holding.

I put one of my fellow players in it once. He was annoying me.

It was awesome.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 23, 2018 3:38 pm
Da bomb...
Clodfobble • Dec 23, 2018 4:41 pm
Fascinating. I did not know that.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 30, 2018 5:38 pm
I guess this is a weapon because you sure ain't pealing taters with it, just save it for stabbing.
Awful lot of time and craftsmanship to create this beauty.
Gravdigr • Jan 2, 2019 11:53 am
That ain't no pig-sticker.
Big Sarge • Jan 3, 2019 4:39 am
I customized a Remington 700 in 300 WSM. I already had a muzzle brake on it and then I swapped the stock for a Magpul 700 Hunter. I added a Larue Tactical picatinny rail, Warne quick detach rings and a Nikon Monarch 5 2-10x42 Ed BDC scope. I've been pleased. Here are some pics - note, the photos were taken over about a 4 month period.

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Gravdigr • Jan 3, 2019 1:34 pm
Flat bolt handles feel weird. Never could get used to 'em.

Good to see/hear from you again, Sarge!

That's some stout medicine ya got there. How ya liking that stock?
Big Sarge • Jan 4, 2019 1:21 am
Gravdigr;1022377 wrote:
Flat bolt handles feel weird. Never could get used to 'em.

Good to see/hear from you again, Sarge!

That's some stout medicine ya got there. How ya liking that stock?


It has really worked out well for me. Free floated my barrel and got close to a 1/2 inch tighter groups. The stock is adjustable for length of pull and comb height, also. BTW, I took 2 elk with it. Have lots of photos, but I don't think the people on here like that kind. I used 180 gr Nosler Partitions on the elk and they would exit even on a quartering shot. Wicked
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 4, 2019 1:23 am
Nothing wrong with hunting them as long as you(or friends) eat them.
fargon • Jan 4, 2019 10:51 am
What Bruce said. Pictures please.
Gravdigr • Jan 4, 2019 2:12 pm
Elk is really good. Dry. But very good.
Big Sarge • Jan 4, 2019 7:31 pm
Here's a photo of me with my first elk and a pic of the exit wound of the Nosler Partition, followed by a pic of it quartered to give you an idea of how much meat we get.

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Big Sarge • Jan 4, 2019 7:47 pm
I was hunting on the Jicarilla Apache Reservation. The lodge is at 8,000 feet and we would go up to 11,000 at times to hunt. Hunting is done safari style - drive to high points, glass for elk, and then do a stalk. Pics of terrain and second elk in the truck to give an idea of the size. BTW, because I didn't get a bull, they let me take 2 cows. I highly recommend hunting the reservations because they set their own seasons, you don't have to deal with the state draw, and they manage for quality/size.

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Big Sarge • Jan 4, 2019 7:51 pm
Another photo showing how the Noslers destroyed the lungs. I'm really impressed with their performance, but they aren't as accurate as Powershok or Fusions

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fargon • Jan 4, 2019 8:11 pm
What happened to the meat?
Big Sarge • Jan 4, 2019 10:48 pm
fargon;1022503 wrote:
What happened to the meat?


Took it to a processor in Pagosa Springs to be deboned and processed. All meat from any member of the cervid family has to be deboned before it can be taken home to Mississippi because of CWD. I packed it in Coleman Xtreme 5 coolers with dry ice on top - still frozen hard 3 days later when I got home.

We use venison in place of beef for almost everything. Saves on money and it is good for my cholesterol. I have my fingers crossed for free range oryx or nilgai this year to add some antelope.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 5, 2019 12:38 am
Lot of good eating there.
My uncle had a fishing boat in Alaska. The day before he came back to MA for Christmas he took a fresh caught gutted Halibut off the dock, packed it with dry ice in a plywood box on his roof rack, and it was still frozen solid when he got home 6 days later. Dry ice makes it safe to transport meat/fish anywhere.
Griff • Jan 5, 2019 9:45 am
Good to see you Sarge. How many pounds of meat did you finish with?
Big Sarge • Jan 6, 2019 2:40 am
Griff;1022527 wrote:
Good to see you Sarge. How many pounds of meat did you finish with?


Around 575 pounds. I know for sure it was 320 pounds deboned & packaged for the biggest cow. The smaller cow, I swapped some of my meat for some of his pre-made sausage. If you are ever around Pagosa Springs, stop by and eat at their deli. Wow, some of the best sandwiches I have ever had.

https://www.buckstopmeat.com/elk-deer-bear-co.html
Griff • Jan 6, 2019 9:04 am
Wow, that's quite a haul! Pagosa Springs deli, got it.

That reminds me of a song...

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Griff • Jan 6, 2019 9:08 am
That's totally the wrong song.
BigV • Jan 6, 2019 11:48 pm
Tastes just like chicken though...
Gravdigr • Jan 7, 2019 9:07 am
Griff;1022612 wrote:
That's totally the wrong song.


&#9834; &#9835;I been in the right place, but it musta been the wrong song&#9834; &#9835;

:jig:
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 10, 2019 8:30 pm
Why you don't mess with gangsters, they cheat... Hyman Lebman
zippyt • Jan 10, 2019 11:34 pm
Glock 18 aint Shit !!
Gravdigr • Jan 11, 2019 11:41 am
Heh...Nineteen (19) rounds forgives a lot in a weapon.

Only takes one though...
Gravdigr • Jan 11, 2019 11:44 am
HAhahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

25-round single stack!!:lol2:

How ya pack that thing w/a straight face?!

In a shoulder rig that mag goes around the corner two steps before you do.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 11, 2019 1:10 pm
Did the job though...
fargon • Jan 11, 2019 6:42 pm
Saint Valentines Day?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xmckWVPRaI
Gravdigr • Jan 15, 2019 5:46 pm
Ding dong, muthafucka, ding dong!1![/BoondockSaints]
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 20, 2019 6:51 pm
The Gunfathers...
sexobon • Jan 20, 2019 7:16 pm
I liked the other one better, the one in which they're holding each other's …

http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=955396
Gravdigr • Jan 21, 2019 1:06 pm
One is a great rifle. The other throws a lot of bullets in a lot of places. Some of those places, coincidentally, contain what you're shooting at.

I know almost any gun can be made to shoot better, and some can be made to shoot great, but, the average AKs that I have experience with weren't worth the cost of their parts, which ain't much!

Poorly toleranced noise makers.

I know there are clones out there that are decent weapons, but your average AK ain't worth shit.

YMMV:)
Griff • Jan 21, 2019 3:07 pm
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xoxoxoBruce • Jan 22, 2019 1:09 am
Nice bandsaw.
BigV • Jan 24, 2019 8:46 pm
Good lord, would you look at that bandsaw.

WANT.

On the other hand, I already have that vise. I love it.
Gravdigr • Jan 25, 2019 12:42 pm
He has some nice toys.

I'd call that shaping, instead of carving, but, removing wood is removing wood, I reckon.
slang • Feb 3, 2019 11:40 pm
Glock 42 in .380 caliber. My new little friend.

This isn't a photo of my little friend but off the net.

It is true that it's not as smooth as many of the other models. That a "small" caliber is not terribly effective at stopping threats.

BUT it is small enough to hide in shorts while you are biking around late at night. In Florida.

I've had more than a few of the Glock pistols. Not saying that this "baby" G is my favorite but it's so incredibly concealable that it's easy to make it a daily carry piece.

It's not a combat weapon, it's an insurance policy. IMO.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 4, 2019 6:03 am
That a "small" caliber is not terribly effective at stopping threats.

It may not knock them across the street, but putting leaks in them usually gets most people's attention, make them consider plan B.
slang • Feb 4, 2019 6:18 am
My thoughts exactly, Bruce.

Also, if forced to shoot a charging dog, no need to injure someone a block away with the shoot-through. Or ricochet.
Gravdigr • Feb 4, 2019 2:59 pm
I had a Browning .380 about a hundred years ago. I liked it. It was thinner than the Glock, though. Mine was seven round clip, I think. It had a hammer, regular safety, and a lemon-grip safety (palm safety), so I carried Condition One all the time.

Cocked, locked, and ready to rock.
slang • Feb 5, 2019 3:56 am
Gravdigr;1024960 wrote:
... I carried Condition One all the time.


Long ago my cop cousin told me about getting hit with a 2x4 where he ended up on the ground while investigating something on the job. He was able to grab his pistol and fire despite taking a severe blow.

Perp wasn't shot but ran away since the guy he just slammed was able to fire.

He told me carry condition one or leave it home.

You'll never be able to predict what you're up against and your ability to draw and fire when you need to most. Even as a civilian. Racking your gat might not be possible with injuries.

I see some people carry on an empty chamber. Many times those people tell me it's not chambered. They don't feel safe with condition one.

I politely chuckle.

If you don't trust yourself, maybe I should be a bit nervous having you carry.
Gravdigr • Feb 5, 2019 12:25 pm
slang;1025024 wrote:
He told me carry condition one or leave it home.


Also called Israeli Carry.

Do not fuck with the Israelis.


A lot of defense-types/spec-ops/cops like a high profile rear sight, it can be used against a ledge to rack that gat one-handed.
Diaphone Jim • Feb 5, 2019 8:24 pm
AK's shot at us.
M-16's didn't always shoot for us.
Hard to pick a favorite.
My RTO carried a heavier M-14 along with the radio. Never didn't shoot.
He (and others in my platoon) is/were from Somerset in your neighborhood.
zippyt • Feb 5, 2019 10:08 pm
Ifn you carry carry loaded ,
Ifn you shoot you shoot to kill , F Knees , legs , and arms
Id Carry a M14 as well , but i didnt have a choice , until they desided i needed a M60 , now THAT i liked !!!!
Gravdigr • Feb 6, 2019 11:12 am
AKs having such loose tolerances is what enables ya to bury the fucker in sand, dig it out a year later and have it spit out bullets (into the general area you're shooting at), casings, and the sand.

M-14s/16s are/were toleranced (<--?) much tighter, and don't like the sand so much.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 6, 2019 11:08 pm
AKs are good for jump starting cars/trucks too. :eyebrow:
Gravdigr • Feb 7, 2019 10:47 am
How are they--oh, folding stock,

Noyce.
Happy Monkey • Mar 8, 2019 11:41 am
Slo-mo tank firing.

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Griff • Mar 8, 2019 12:07 pm
That watermelon deflection was nuts.
Happy Monkey • Mar 8, 2019 12:08 pm
Water is stronger than you expect.
slang • Mar 8, 2019 12:21 pm
Happy Monkey;1027777 wrote:
Slo-mo tank firing.


Very interesting.

Lab guy gets his google blown off. Funny.

You should see how much more powerful that blow-by is indoors. Brutal.
Gravdigr • Mar 8, 2019 1:46 pm
Thank you Mr. Monkey, that was awesome.
Big Sarge • Mar 16, 2019 4:16 am
I got lucky - a 2nd generation Colt 3rd Model Dragoon - C series. It is unfired in the original box. Cylinder even looks unturned. I picked it up for less than what I would have paid for a Uberti. I definitely will be holding on to this horse pistol to pass down. Here's a breakdown on what a C Series 2nd Generation is -

The production of the Colt 2nd Generation Black Powder reproductions took place in three stages. Initially, Colt Industries tested the waters with Val Forgett's help to build their first "C" Series 1851 Navy reproductions in the 1971-1973 time frame, which had included the now very collectible Grant and Lee Navy sets. These revolvers had the barrels, cylinders, and backstraps cast in Italy, but were finished off at Colt's facilities in Hartford, CT. where Forgett had the the frames, the center pins, nipples, all of the screws, springs made and built for every "C" Series gun at Colt Manufacturing. However, in late 1973, Colt Manufacturing Co. decided to seek a new supplier of components, and Lou Imperato, Colt's largest distributor at the time, was about to take over production.
Beginning in 1974, Lou Imperato replaced Val Forgett as Colt's supplier of components to build their percussion revolvers. These revolvers were completed in exactly the same way as all of their previously made 2nd Generation percussion revolvers &#8211; AT COLT'S FACILITIES - from 1974 to 1976. They had the barrels, cylinders, and backstraps cast in Italy and were finished off at Colt's facilities in Hartford, CT. where Imperato had the frames, the center pins, nipples, all of the screws, and springs made for every "C" Series gun.
The guns produced in this time frame were packaged in wood grain, cardboard boxes. The relationship with Imperato continued until Colt discontinued their entire "C" Series line of percussion revolvers in 1976.

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fargon • Mar 16, 2019 9:01 am
Nice Pistol. I've always wondered about having a weapon and never firing it. I know they are worth more unfired, but what's the fun in that. That would be so much fun ventilating tin cans, or ringing steel. Black Powder is Fun!
Gravdigr • Mar 16, 2019 3:09 pm
Wait til the smoke clears to see if ya hit anything.:D

I should shoot the black powder arms we have around here. Couple rifles, a Philly Derringer, a shotgun, one revolver, they ain't been shot in forever.
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 16, 2019 4:26 am
A declawed Tiger...
zippyt • Apr 16, 2019 6:24 am
That'll buff right out
Gravdigr • Apr 16, 2019 1:08 pm
Wenol works wonders!!
Big Sarge • May 21, 2019 5:39 am
I picked up a Uberti 1860 Colt Army with a shoulder stock. The revolver came with a 45 Colt conversion cylinder, so I'm waiting till I get my percussion cylinder in before I use the stock with it. It is a fast change from cartridge to percussion, but you have to remember to never use the shoulder stock with the conversion cylinder because feds will rule that an SBR under the NFA - 5 years flat time.

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Gravdigr • May 21, 2019 11:29 am
Doesn't the pistol become a weapon with the cartridge cylinder?

Or are they black powder cartridges? Does it matter?

It would for me. As a felon I can have a percussion gun like in your pic. But I'm wondering about black powder cartridges?

BTW, a good judge will go below federal guidelines.

Mine did.:D
zippyt • May 21, 2019 5:54 pm
its not considered a weapon untill you put on the Percussion caps
Big Sarge • May 21, 2019 10:34 pm
When I put the conversion cylinder in it for 45 Colt, it is classified as a modern revolver. When I have the percussion cylinder in it, it is an antique firearm not subject to regulation. If you have a cartridge firing gun, including machine guns, made before 1899 it is an antique firearm and not subject to regulation. I know many people with priors who shoot percussion and flintlock guns. The only hitch is if your state has a prohibition.

For the purposes of the National Firearms Act, the term &#8220;Antique Firearms&#8221; means any firearm not intended or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898 (including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap or similar type of ignition system or replica thereof, whether actually manufactured before or after the year 1898) and also any firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/browse/collectionUScode.action?collectionCode=USCODE&searchPath=Title+26%2FSubtitle+E%2FCHAPTER+53&oldPath=Title+26%2FSubtitle+E&isCollapsed=true&selectedYearFrom=2011&ycord=1419
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 7, 2019 1:54 am
Station Wagons as tools of war...

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Keaton had a tough time in WW I, they moved him from infantry to signal corps but he was under 5'5" and
wore a 6 1/2 shoe. They couldn't even come close, 8 1/2 was the smallest shoe and coats like tents.
Big Sarge • Jun 9, 2019 2:40 am
xoxoxoBruce;1033662 wrote:
Station Wagons as tools of war...

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Keaton had a tough time in WW I, they moved him from infantry to signal corps but he was under 5'5" and
wore a 6 1/2 shoe. They couldn't even come close, 8 1/2 was the smallest shoe and coats like tents.


Thanks for sharing this! Another interesting tidbit is the unit was commanded by Lt Col Lewis Stone (Judge Hardy)
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 27, 2019 11:15 am
The French seemed to think no one would notice a man dressed like a tank moving around. :rolleyes:
Gravdigr • Aug 28, 2019 4:43 pm
Imagine the pranks Mel Brooks coulda pulled off if'n he'd had one of those!

Mel crawled across no-man's-land with a giant speaker, and climbed the only tree (mighta been a pole) left standing, hung the speaker pointed at the Nazis, and hooked it up to a record player and played, I think, Jewish folk songs all night.

What? Your gov't didn't issue record players to front line troops?:eyebrow:
zippyt • Aug 28, 2019 9:07 pm
Imagen the clatter in seide that thing from the gun shots
Think golf driving range tractor
Gravdigr • Aug 29, 2019 5:33 pm
zippyt;1037716 wrote:
Think golf driving range tractor


Heh...
xoxoxoBruce • Aug 31, 2019 12:53 am
Demonstrated on nice soft grass...

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Diaphone Jim • Aug 31, 2019 12:16 pm
Knee propelled, no pads.
sexobon • Aug 31, 2019 12:31 pm
They were preconditioned with wine since they didn't have to stand up, let alone walk, and the racket kept them from falling asleep. Ingenious!
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 7, 2019 1:02 am
Russian Typhoon Class Sub, building 6 of them is what bankrupted the Soviet Union. Largest subs in the world, missile launching platforms, the one that has been active testing missiles is being overhauled, updated and modified. Don't know where the other five are.
Diaphone Jim • Sep 7, 2019 12:09 pm
In the left-middle picture, I think maybe sonar picked up a girl submarine in the area.
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 7, 2019 3:45 pm
Boom tish, try the fish.
:drummer:
Gravdigr • Sep 9, 2019 2:31 pm
Diaphone Jim;1038229 wrote:
In the left-middle picture, I think maybe sonar picked up a girl submarine in the area.


Vodka dispenser.
Griff • Sep 9, 2019 9:01 pm
xoxoxoBruce;1038216 wrote:
Russian Typhoon Class Sub, building 6 of them is what bankrupted the Soviet Union. Largest subs in the world, missile launching platforms, the one that has been active testing missiles is being overhauled, updated and modified. Don't know where the other five are.


Are you trying to scare people? Cuz that is how you scare people.
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 9, 2019 11:58 pm
We don't know if they are operational or scrapped/mothballed because the are so expensive to operate.
But what does it matter, six are no more scary than one, and we know one is operational.
Griff • Sep 10, 2019 7:24 am
Not to be on a China paranoia binge but they can afford them and Russians will sell anything to anybody.
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 10, 2019 8:56 am
If someone bought them they're probably hiding them in the ocean... underwater. :unsure:
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 13, 2019 1:26 am
We're taking care of business... :yesnod:
xoxoxoBruce • Sep 21, 2019 2:08 pm
Swords...
sexobon • Sep 21, 2019 4:01 pm
What do you call the COD for someone who dies by the sword?

[SIZE="1"](highlight the answer while I run)[/SIZE] :bolt:

[COLOR="White"]Swordfish.[/COLOR]
Gravdigr • Sep 21, 2019 8:52 pm
:drummer:
xoxoxoBruce • Oct 3, 2019 1:20 am
Damn Rock Stars...
Gravdigr • Oct 3, 2019 1:41 pm
Can that barrel attach to that receiver? That's an AR-style receiver with what looks like a standard AR mag well...
Urbane Guerrilla • Nov 9, 2019 6:31 pm
I doubt the AR mag well is being used for anything except maybe a place to keep a small stowage box. I think the .50-cal box feeds from the side into that big gap.
I've got my suspicions about this anyway -- there doesn't seem enough infrastructure in there to handle .50-cal forces. Best see how nearly this resembles the Barrett Light Fifty.
Gravdigr • Nov 10, 2019 10:22 am
The rear of the upper is round-ish, and the rear of the receiver is squared off-ish.

I'm doubtful as well, but, machinists can work miracles nowadays, so...maybe, I guess.

A Barrett might come out cheaper after all the machine work to make this, er, work.
Flint • Nov 26, 2019 3:47 pm
Have y'all seen the repeating bow?
First appears at 4:00 in this video.. But the buildup, various improvements he made leading up to it is cool too.

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Happy Monkey • Nov 26, 2019 3:58 pm
That is awesome.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 7, 2020 1:25 am
Tankata tankata...
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 26, 2020 1:15 am
Putin is spending that gas money from Europe...

Kanyon

The existence of the weapon, known as Kanyon to the Pentagon and "Ocean Multipurpose System Status-6"
to Russia, was first leaked by Russian television in November 2015. A test involving the Sarov-class
submarine mothership was leaked in December 2016. The Nuclear Posture Review report, dated January
2018, lists the weapon as part of Russia’s underwater nuclear arsenal.

Kanyon - 5.5 feet wide - 79 feet long – nuclear powered - autonomous drone torpedo - range 6,200 miles -
max depth 3,280 ft - speed 100 knots(115mph).
Payload 100-megaton thermonuclear weapon(100,000,000 tons of TNT), twice Tsar Bomba.
Big badda boom - tidal wave salted with Cobalt-60 - land uninhabitable for 100 years.

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Diaphone Jim • Jan 26, 2020 12:35 pm
Big badda boom indeed.
All the numbers are remarkable, including its over two day flight to maximum range.
fargon • Jan 26, 2020 4:06 pm
Why would anyone build such a thing?
Diaphone Jim • Jan 26, 2020 4:21 pm
On second look, that two days is spent underwater, not is flight.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 26, 2020 6:01 pm
fargon;1045511 wrote:
Why would anyone build such a thing?


Big Dick Diplomacy. Our air defences are pretty strong and mutual destruction is not a win. Tunneling like the Brits did in WW I is not practical, so the only other way to be a threat is underwater.
fargon • Jan 27, 2020 8:39 am
My question is. Why the need to be a threat at all? I know the world is a dangerous place, and that we need to defend our self's. But that thing is made to start a war.
glatt • Jan 27, 2020 8:56 am
Mutual assured destruction. We are not going to attack Russia if we know they can take us out and there is nothing we can do about it.

We had peace under mutual assured destruction for decades, but then the US developed missile defense systems. Our destruction was no longer certain, only probable. So Russia had to invent a way around the defense we had created. We are back to a stalemate again. It’s actually a good thing.
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 31, 2020 3:04 am
Lotta badda booms...
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 1, 2020 1:25 am
More bombs from Ai Weiwei.
The picture is 65 feet long and 36 feet high, I couldn't find a copy with the labels legible.
xoxoxoBruce • Feb 19, 2020 1:31 am
This was made during the copper age which was after the stone age but before the Bronze age, roughly 3500 to 2300 BCE.
A beautiful piece of work, hope that blade didn't start out to be a machete. ;)
BigV • Apr 23, 2020 3:13 pm
Not a weapon, but a book about weapons. Books are cool, right?
zippyt • Apr 23, 2020 4:41 pm
forgotten weapons is on of my favs
https://www.youtube.com/user/ForgottenWeapons
allways somthing interesting , look for his Mars pistols Massive and insane !!!
xoxoxoBruce • Apr 27, 2020 1:50 am
Long guns, short guns and things that go boom in the night...