Roger Ebert writes an open letter to Rush Limbaugh
Jebus. Get Satan over here when he's done with Pat Robertson.
GAWD I despise that man. He's sick. :headshake
Same old Rush... at least he's consistent, the cocksucker.
Sorry, didn't mean to insult cocksuckers.
Gotta post it so it never disappears.
You should be horse-whipped for the insult you have paid to the highest office of our nation.
Having followed President Obama's suggestion and donated money to the Red Cross for relief in Haiti, I was offended to hear you suggest the President might be a thief capable of stealing money intended for the earthquake victims.
Here is a transcript from your program on Thursday:
Justin of Raleigh, North Carolina: "Why does Obama say if you want to donate some money, you could go to whitehouse.gov to direct you how to do so? If I wanted to donate to the Red Cross, why do I have to go to the White House page to donate?"
Limbaugh: "Exactly. Would you trust the money's gonna go to Haiti?"
Justin: "No."
Rush: "But would you trust that your name's gonna end up on a mailing list for the Obama people to start asking you for campaign donations for him and other causes?"
Justin: "Absolutely!"
Limbaugh: "Absolutely!"
That's what was said.
Unlike you and Justin of Raleigh, I went to Obama's web site, and discovered the link there leads directly to the Red Cross. I can think of a reason why anyone might want to go via the White House. That way they can be absolutely sure they're clicking on the Red Cross and not a fake site set up to exploit the tragedy.
But let me be sure I have this right. You and Justin agree that Obama might steal money intended for the Red Cross to help the wretched of Haiti.
This conversation came 48 hours after many of us had seen pitiful sights from Port au Prince. Tens of thousands are believed still alive beneath the rubble. You twisted their suffering into an opportunity to demean the character of the President of the United States.
You have a sizable listening audience. You apparently know how to please them. Anybody given a $400 million contract must know what he is doing.
That's what offends me. You know exactly what you're doing.
I knew he and Pat were buddies.
What's it say about the multitudes of idiots who believe his shit?
Jebus. Get Satan over here when he's done with Pat Robertson.
Dammit not this again.
Ok, ummm.....technically I can't do anything to Rush because of a past agreement. A young desperate radio host who went by Rusty Sharpe wanted to be the most popular radio host of all time. Keep it mind it was during the late 60's and I was getting real tired of all the hippy bullshit so the thought of a conservative radio host was appealing. I really need to stop doing business under the influence of LSD...
But, yeah, anyways, did you really think he is popular because of talent or brains? Bwahahahahaha
Come on Satan. What about the deal where I'm your girlfriend when I get to hell, huh? 'Cause, uh, that Jebus fellow's been eyeing me pretty heavily, and I'd hate to think I'd have to kick you to the curb over something as silly as l'il ole Rush. I mean, are you trying to tell me you have ETHICS?
Girlfriend? Oh....haha....yeah....that was before I met Saddam.
Girlfriend? Oh....haha....yeah....that was before I met Saddam.
Umm what about Chris? Besides didn't God tell you that neither boyfriend was right for you? :eyebrow:
Rush stands by his comments and explains why he said them. Not that its a good explaination
Controversial conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh is defending earlier comments in which he accused President Obama of using the disaster in Haiti for political gain.
"I do believe that everything is political to this president," Limbaugh said on his radio show yesterday. "Everything this president sees is a political opportunity, including Haiti, and he will use it to burnish his credentials with minorities in this country and around the world, and to accuse Republicans of having no compassion
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So, Obama is suppose to not respond at all because a good/timely/compassionate response might gain him politcal favor? Yes, that makes a hell of a lot of sense.
Rush is an idiot, and people who believe him are too.
He's an ass. I once heard him argue for like an hour because he insisted the @ sign was called an ampersand. He wouldn't concede the point even though people were shoving dictionaries in his face. I mean, if you've fucking watched Wheel of Fortune ONCE you know what an ampersand is. (I didn't listen to him on purpose, I worked with a bunch of dumb old bats who worshipped the ground he walked on and kept him on the radio. I wanted to vomit.)
He really is a big fat idiot. Pure evil, along with Palin and Bush.
I personally think Rush Limbaugh is a douchebag BUT he is without a doubt awesome at what he does. Look at all of you getting your panties in a twist over something said by a guy you describe as an idiot. In case you haven't figured it out, THAT is what this guy is about - ratings and marketshare. You give it to him.
I love how no one will actually admit they love Rush. Every conservative on this board knows better than to affiliate with him (which tells me you're smarter than the dumb rednecks), and so, instead, say things like "I think he sucks BUT..." or "I don't agree with Rush, BUT..."
Those posts make your but look big.
About as much as your superiority complex. I've stated my views on Rush a number of times over the years.
I think he is a douchebag. A very rich, very intelligent, very successful douchebag. It cracks my ass up when I hear him ridicule his own dittoheads. It cracks my ass up when he goes on a rant and by the end of it he is having a hard time not laughing because even HE doesn't believe the bullshit he's spewing. I love it that supposedly intelligent beings such as yourself ridicule him for being a stupid irrelevent cocksucker but you waste no opportunity to get wound up by his comments on his entertainment radio show.
I respect his ability to succeed in a cutthroat business for so long. Just like a respected Bill Clinton's ability to come out of shitstorms relatively unscathed.
Oh, so my approach should be to put him on ignore? Nope! He's dangerous, and you're an apologist. And you can give the lip service about how you think he's a douchebag all you want, but your actions via your words belie that notion.
Me reading an article posted on the Cellar, then commenting on it, contributes to Rush's marketshare? OK. You're right. I'll just shut up because it's just not RIGHT to say anything bad about Rush: his fans get their panties in a wad.
Superiority complex? HA! That's good, cuz. :p
And you snuck in Clinton? Wow...it's almost like you're using the earthquake for gain or publicity, Rush. Grab at what you can I guess, when you really have nothing else to go with. :headshake
In fact, I've noticed the only time you pop in anymore is to bitch about Obama or apologize for Rush.
Why are you conservatives so ashamed to just be who you are? Why do you hide so?
Hide? Not so much. I'm just busy being a productive member of society. ;)
Of course, if you want a more serious answer I'd guess you'd have to point out somewhere, anywhere really, where I've apologized for Rush or thrown out a Ditto. As far as bitching about Obama, I'd ask you to go back and read again. Unlike some of my fellow dwellars I don't spend a lot of energy bitching about individuals I don't know. You will however find many posts where I criticize or disagree with policies and philosophies. Of course I did that with the previous administration as well but it's probably easier for you to just stick with your broad and bitter assumptions.
If you look at my nearly 6 years of posts I don't believe you'll find the profile of someone ashamed of their beliefs.
More importantly, hows the boy doing?
*sigh* that's a large part of what keeps me busy. we have now tried and rejected 4 different medications. He is in the ramp up for a 5th but it is too soon to see any positive or negative signs yet.
Keep plugging (like you wouldn't :rolleyes:), and I'll send the best vibes I can muster.
Satan you killed Kenny! You bastard! :lol:
Yeah, I work too. I had a kid tell me the other day he was going to quit, trying to go to school was too frustrating, until I helped him. So I"m productive too.
Why is it OK for all y'all to treat me like dog shit, anyway? You started the slinging with your superiority complex statement. It's OK, you'll still be adored and I'll take the shit for being whatever it is you think I am (bitter) when I state my opinion.
Superiority complex? I rarely feel worse than this place can make me feel, but I keep trying. Why? Because of the rare connection, because every now and then someone values my opinion. Sometimes I almost forget I'm worthless and so are my values and ideas and words. There's always a special someone here willing to re-point that out.
It's a motherfucking GOOD life, ya know. :lol:
Let the flaming begin. Luckily, along with bitterness comes a toughness that goes deeper than the barbs and arrows I see flying in my direction.
Calm down, it's a VW not a snit. :p
Always telling the girls to "calm down."
This girl won't calm down for you at your will. Sorry. ;)
Yeah, Flint, I have a vague recollection. I guess it wasn't too memorable (examines fingernails and yawns.)
Not always, only the ones getting riled up for no reason.
Well, if that is the way you feel you need more help than the cellar can provide. S123, I always enjoyed your posts until recently. Your posts have become more condescending and bitter in recent months. You throw shit around, but as soon as someone says anything to you they get a pity party post like the one above. Quit being a martyr. Last I checked you and I are on equal footing in the cellar. It's not like I have some gang of groupies to jump on you. Say whatever you want, but don't be surprised if someone responds to you in kind.
No reason? And I'm more riled than he? I don't think so. I'm responding TO him. Quit being so sexist.
This is what I'm talking about: discounting me for feeling the need to stand up for myself, telling me I have no reason. You know, I think I have reason. For you to tell me my reasons aren't valid, pretty shitty.
Next time merc floods a thread with stupid poli pics when he's having a hissy fit, please do stop in to tell him to calm down. It's really only fair.
Shitty shitty people.
Not one woman here can say how she feels without being accused of the pity party. AND THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THIS, for your info, lookout. These labels you stick where you please? Wrong, mean, and sick.
Fuck that, and fuck you.
(I like the "you need help" motif that's been going around lately. God, don't mess with the boys' club in this place!)
Oh, we're playing the cunt card, are we. Fuck it, enjoy your martyrdom.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm talking about.
It's cuz I'm a woman!
No, it's cuz you're being ridiculous.
Fuck both of you. That's ALL YOU GOT.
Go to hell, seriously.
I honestly don't know what's happening in your life, but this kind of reaction is bigger than some words on a screen.
No, that's just your condescension coming out. See, if you keep perpetuating this, it permeates everything and everyone's mind. Oh, it's just crazy Shaw again.
For standing up and saying what's on my mind...
I think they call this gaslighting. Some of you are quite good at it.
Go to hell, seriously.
Satan get ready for some company, XOB and LO are coming for a visit, have Chris make a nice quiche ;)
I actually I'd never heard of gaslighting so thanks.
After you relax a bit why don't you go back and relax a bit more then reread this thread. You aren't the only one who I tweaked about getting wound up over Rush, you're just the only to take it personal and escalate things.
Satan get ready for some company, XOB and LO are coming for a visit, have Chris make a nice quiche ;)
uhuh. me and pat robertson are tight. the debil can't touch me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
For those of you that have not gotten the memo I am the forum asshole today! :)
I would ask you do the same thing.
I mentioned that I've heard a number of people who I described as conservatives have said a number of times something along the lines of "I don't like Rush BUT..."
It was a fine observation. It offended YOU, though, like you said about YOUR comment, it was directed at a number of people, not just you.
It's a pattern. I think you escalated it, and I think you did so very calculatingly. I don't care if you don't see it, I don't care if the cool kids don't see it. I dont' care what you label me or say behind my back.
That's the change you've seen in me: I'm not apologizing for being me anymore. I don't need to sit at the cool table in the Cellar. I'll say kind things when I feel kind things, and I'll call bullshit when I see bullshit, and I'll defend myself when I need defended. How is that any different than what anyone else does?
Examine yourselves folks, I can't be your scapegoat forever.
Yeah, you are, and who the fuck is Chris? ;)
Though presently single, Satan has had three romantic relationships so far. His most significant relationship was with Saddam Hussein in South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut. However, Saddam was emotionally abusive to the comparatively-meek and ineffectual Satan, and seemed more interested in Satan for sex and world domination than out of love. With some prompting from Kenny, Satan finally got the nerve to break up with Saddam by throwing him onto a giant rocky spike and killing him.
Saddam returned to Hell in "Do the Handicapped Go to Hell?" (with the explanation that, since he was killed, he was just going to wind up right back there). By this time Satan had a new boyfriend, a man named Chris.
Scroll down to Satan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_supporting_characters_on_South_ParkOhhhhh...a cultural reference I didn't know! Thanks!
FTR...Shawnee isnt the only one to notice the condescending attitude that is sometimes exhibited here on the Cellar. I was quite astounded by Bruce's comment to Cloud the other day.
You mean when he called her a cunt for having the audacity to feel a bit put off by a comment he made? Seemed a bit overboard to me too. Was she upset for a silly reason? Probably. Is that reason to call her a cunt? I don't know, I guess we should learn to shut up when we're told. I figured there must be a backstory that I didn't know, as I watched the pile on. *shrugs* Paint it what they will, it's shitty.
and I'll defend myself when I need>< defended.
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to be< ;)
>to be< ;)
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Nirvana hands off the "asshole" baton to Classicman.[/COLOR]
lol - I was trying to be funny there and steer the conversation away from the precipice.
Yes, absolutely, the Cellar has it own Rush (and no, I dont mean UG), but he's treated like a petulant spoiled child and simply accepted and ignored by most and rarely, if ever, called out for his antics or his offensive posts.
And yes, w/o knowing the back story, I too thought the recent "cunt" reference to another member here was offensive,
Generally I laugh at the "fuck you" or "failed" tossed out by our Rush and his acquiescent supporters when confronted or challenged with facts or an opinion with which they disagree...but IMO, there is a clear pattern of discourse here in the politics section in which, very often, the more conservative members dont seem interested in discussion as much as they are "going negative" and attacking people that challenge them.
But what do I know. I'm just an arrogant east coast liberal elitist and I guess that pisses some people off. :D
Yipes!
Well, I don't feel that the men here condescend to me, but I try to be low key. I'm just not interested in flame wars. I could probably start WWIII with Merc and C-man if I felt like it. I just don't feel like it. And nasty remarks are not just aimed at women. Look at the posts between Redux, Merc, etc.
You are pretty much a straight shooter, Shawnee, and you shouldn't be surprised if other folks return the fire. I am rather in awe that you got Bruce to respond as he did. He's usually pretty mellow.
This is just the internet for heaven's sake. Read a decent book and check back in tomorrow. :headshake
I don't mind the returned fire, if it's straight shooting as well, rather than a cover-up for bruised egos and a "see, there she goes again" designed to deflect who is actually being the ass (in the name of Rush, of all people) :lol:
Oh, and with all due respect, you're you. I'm me. It's easy to tell the difference. You are there, and I am here. Me. You. You. Me. ;) We're different, Sam, and that's OK...
When you are called a cunt, please to let me know what you think of it, hmmm? When you accidentally bruise an ego (because you would not do so on purpose as I might) let me know how the resulting twisting feels to you. :)
I don't mind the returned fire, if it's straight shooting as well...
But, but....what if they are the gang that couldnt shoot straight? Or refuse to even attempt? ;)
Then I stand up and say something, and get flame-o shat upon mightily. The emperor doesn't like when you point out his lack of clothing, you know, but someone has to stand for something! :lol2:
I don't mind the returned fire, if it's straight shooting as well, rather than a cover-up for bruised egos and a "see, there she goes again" designed to deflect who is actually being the ass (in the name of Rush, of all people) :lol:
Oh, and with all due respect, you're you. I'm me. It's easy to tell the difference. You are there, and I am here. Me. You. You. Me. ;) We're different, Sam, and that's OK...
When you are called a cunt, please to let me know what you think of it, hmmm? When you accidentally bruise an ego (because you would not do so on purpose as I might) let me know how the resulting twisting feels to you. :)
I have been called any number of things and you're right, I get as enraged as anyone else. Now I mostly avoid posting in a manner that will probably result in certain types of retaliation.
But you go for it, Shawnee, you are the pepper that spices up the cellar. ;)
I personally think Rush Limbaugh is a douchebag BUT he is without a doubt awesome at what he does. Look at all of you getting your panties in a twist over something said by a guy you describe as an idiot. In case you haven't figured it out, THAT is what this guy is about - ratings and marketshare. You give it to him.
He is awesome at spreading lies and misinformation. He touts himself as factual and there are plenty of people who believe him when he spews his "facts." I don't listen to him, I don't contribute to his ratings and marketshare. Being able to read transcripts from OTHER news sources about what shit he's spewing, is not me contributing to his marketshare.
I have arguments with my dad about this man quite often, I can't argue if I don't know anything about him. I am attempting to reduce his marketshare by persuading others to NOT listen to him. Can't do that if I can't justify why.
Sorry I didn't respond to your ridiculous assumption earlier. I was busy being a productive member of society.
By the way, my panties don't get in a wad because I wear the non-ride up kind. I also don't stick "tampons in my ears" as Rush suggested a female caller had done, I know where those go.
but someone has to stand for something! :lol2:
I stand for >to be<
Classhole, don't make me stop this car!
Classhole, don't make me stop this car!
Don't spank him, that's what he wants! Don't play into his hands.
Err I mean, don't let him play into your hands.
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I actually hope the 'boys win.
Here's my druthers:
Indy and San Diego go to AFC championship, with SD winning. New Orleans and Dallas to NFC championship, with NO winning.
Then SD to win it all. Just because Rivers was my FF quarterback and I have no real reason to root for any team nor do I dislike any of the teams.
I hate them all except whoever is playing the cowboys. (sorry Jim)
lol - I was trying to be funny there and steer the conversation away from the precipice.
And just where do you think Satan was trying to go? :eyebrow: Why the precipice of course! ;)
I really resent Pro-football players. They get paid tons more than more productive members of society. Policemen, firemen, teachers (my sis is a HS math teach), ect. I believe people working in those professions are much better role models, and tougher than the toughest football player. I think football has its place, but it has been elevated way beyond what it should be.
I only support high school and college. Although I think too much importance is being placed on football in those institutions as well when the emphasis should be on academics.
I'm clueless on football, but I did go back and read Bruce's comment to Cloud. I'm disappointed in Bruce. *ducks*
,,, I did go back and read Bruce's comment to Cloud. I'm disappointed in Bruce. *ducks*
I went back and looked at Merc's recent pictorial display (" Impeding changes to health care" post numbers 1651, 1652, 1653, 1654, 1656, 1657....and Current Events/ "Does anyone like bailing" post numbers 984, 985, 987, 988)
Ten stupid, childish pics in a matter of minutes.
I'm not disappointed or offended, but yes, it was absolutely very Rush-like.
:haha:
What a few R's had to say about Rush's comments.
“They are deeply insensitive,” said conservative commentator Pat Buchanan on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”
“The president speaks for the country when he says we’re going to go in there,” he said. “You want your whole nation, and it’s very positive. And I think Rush’s comments were cynical.”
Sitting next to Buchanan on set, host Joe Scarborough called Limbaugh’s comments “deplorable.”
“The insensitivity is stunning,” said the former Republican congressman.
LinkOh, we're playing the cunt card, are we. Fuck it, enjoy your martyrdom.
Nice moderating there, Bruce. :headshake
He's an ass. I once heard him argue for like an hour because he insisted the @ sign was called an ampersand. He wouldn't concede the point even though people were shoving dictionaries in his face. I mean, if you've fucking watched Wheel of Fortune ONCE you know what an ampersand is. (I didn't listen to him on purpose, I worked with a bunch of dumb old bats who worshipped the ground he walked on and kept him on the radio. I wanted to vomit.)
He really is a big fat idiot. Pure evil, along with Palin and Bush.
[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]States opinion[/COLOR]
I personally think Rush Limbaugh is a douchebag BUT he is without a doubt awesome at what he does. Look at all of you getting your panties in a twist over something said by a guy you describe as an idiot. In case you haven't figured it out, THAT is what this guy is about - ratings and marketshare. You give it to him.
[COLOR="royalblue"]States opinion[/COLOR]
I love how no one will actually admit they love Rush. Every conservative on this board knows better than to affiliate with him (which tells me you're smarter than the dumb rednecks), and so, instead, say things like "I think he sucks BUT..." or "I don't agree with Rush, BUT..."
Those posts make your but look big.
[COLOR="royalblue"]Ad hominem attack[/COLOR]
About as much as your superiority complex. I've stated my views on Rush a number of times over the years.
I think he is a douchebag. A very rich, very intelligent, very successful douchebag. It cracks my ass up when I hear him ridicule his own dittoheads. It cracks my ass up when he goes on a rant and by the end of it he is having a hard time not laughing because even HE doesn't believe the bullshit he's spewing. I love it that supposedly intelligent beings such as yourself ridicule him for being a stupid irrelevent cocksucker but you waste no opportunity to get wound up by his comments on his entertainment radio show.
I respect his ability to succeed in a cutthroat business for so long. Just like a respected Bill Clinton's ability to come out of shitstorms relatively unscathed.
[COLOR="royalblue"]Mild shot back, then restate and defend opinion[/COLOR]
Oh, so my approach should be to put him on ignore? Nope! He's dangerous, and you're an apologist. And you can give the lip service about how you think he's a douchebag all you want, but your actions via your words belie that notion.
Me reading an article posted on the Cellar, then commenting on it, contributes to Rush's marketshare? OK. You're right. I'll just shut up because it's just not RIGHT to say anything bad about Rush: his fans get their panties in a wad.
Superiority complex? HA! That's good, cuz. :p
And you snuck in Clinton? Wow...it's almost like you're using the earthquake for gain or publicity, Rush. Grab at what you can I guess, when you really have nothing else to go with. :headshake
[COLOR="royalblue"]Ad hominem attack[/COLOR]
In fact, I've noticed the only time you pop in anymore is to bitch about Obama or apologize for Rush.
Why are you conservatives so ashamed to just be who you are? Why do you hide so?
[COLOR="royalblue"]Continue Ad hominem attack[/COLOR]
More importantly, hows the boy doing?
[COLOR="royalblue"]Change subject[/COLOR]
Yeah, I work too. I had a kid tell me the other day he was going to quit, trying to go to school was too frustrating, until I helped him. So I"m productive too.
Why is it OK for all y'all to treat me like dog shit, anyway? You started the slinging with your superiority complex statement. It's OK, you'll still be adored and I'll take the shit for being whatever it is you think I am (bitter) when I state my opinion.
Superiority complex? I rarely feel worse than this place can make me feel, but I keep trying. Why? Because of the rare connection, because every now and then someone values my opinion. Sometimes I almost forget I'm worthless and so are my values and ideas and words. There's always a special someone here willing to re-point that out.
It's a motherfucking GOOD life, ya know. :lol:
Let the flaming begin. Luckily, along with bitterness comes a toughness that goes deeper than the barbs and arrows I see flying in my direction.
[COLOR="royalblue"]Continue Ad hominem attack, again and add pity me[/COLOR]
Calm down, it's a VW not a snit. :p
[COLOR="royalblue"]Try to head off where this usually goes[/COLOR]
Always telling the girls to "calm down."
This girl won't calm down for you at your will. Sorry. ;)
Yeah, Flint, I have a vague recollection. I guess it wasn't too memorable (examines fingernails and yawns.)
[COLOR="royalblue"]Doesn't work, melting continues[/COLOR]
Not always, only the ones getting riled up for no reason.
[COLOR="royalblue"]Try again[/COLOR]
Well, if that is the way you feel you need more help than the cellar can provide. S123, I always enjoyed your posts until recently. Your posts have become more condescending and bitter in recent months. You throw shit around, but as soon as someone says anything to you they get a pity party post like the one above. Quit being a martyr. Last I checked you and I are on equal footing in the cellar. It's not like I have some gang of groupies to jump on you. Say whatever you want, but don't be surprised if someone responds to you in kind.
[COLOR="royalblue"]Not helping, but I believe a valid reaction to attacks[/COLOR]
No reason? And I'm more riled than he? I don't think so. I'm responding TO him. Quit being so sexist..
[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Calling me sexist for not agreeing with her ad hominem attacks, but maybe the's right. Maybe I should have just told her to shut the fuck up[/COLOR]
This is what I'm talking about: discounting me for feeling the need to stand up for myself, telling me I have no reason. You know, I think I have reason. For you to tell me my reasons aren't valid, pretty shitty.
Next time merc floods a thread with stupid poli pics when he's having a hissy fit, please do stop in to tell him to calm down. It's really only fair.
Shitty shitty people.
Not one woman here can say how she feels without being accused of the pity party. AND THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THIS, for your info, lookout. These labels you stick where you please? Wrong, mean, and sick.
Fuck that, and fuck you.
(I like the "you need help" motif that's been going around lately. God, don't mess with the boys' club in this place!)
[COLOR="royalblue"]Completely unfounded bullshit Ad hominem attack[/COLOR]
Oh, we're playing the cunt card, are we. Fuck it, enjoy your martyrdom.
[COLOR="royalblue"]I give up[/COLOR]
I said she was playing the cunt card because that's exactly what she was doing, accusing me (and others) of dissing and picking on her because of her sex. That's complete bullshit and something she pulls repeatedly, and I called her on it.
Nice moderating there, Bruce. :headshake
What the fuck does that have to do with moderating?
Satan get ready for some company, XOB and LO are coming for a visit, have Chris make a nice quiche ;)
>to be< ;)
Others try to deflect as well
Nice moderating there, Bruce. :headshake
some wish to continue.
LET IT DIE.
I think he is a douchebag. A very rich, very intelligent, very successful douchebag. It cracks my ass up when I hear him ridicule his own dittoheads. It cracks my ass up when he goes on a rant and by the end of it he is having a hard time not laughing because even HE doesn't believe the bullshit he's spewing...
It sounds as though you listen to him a lot. Do you?
...but I try to be low key. I'm just not interested in flame wars...
Hmmmmmm...
Well, Spex, do you maybe, just maybe hate organized religion? I am going to take a great intellectural leap here and assume that you do. I have no desire to attempt to discuss religion with an individual whose mind is already made up. Go follow your bliss, but don't expect me to sign on for your journey. :eyebrow:
From the Moderator Nomination Thread
[COLOR=Blue]Moderator is a harder job than it appears, if only because people think of you differently if you are a moderator.[/COLOR]
From the Moderator Nomination Thread
[COLOR=Blue]Moderator is a harder job than it appears, if only because people think of you differently if you are a moderator.[/COLOR]
I'll butt fuck you in the mouth, you elitist moderating bastard!
Just kidding, please don't ban me. :o
I disagree with you Bruce. Your MO, as well as LO's, is to, when confronted with your double standards and inability to speak to the subject at hand (bruised egos) is to turn it all around on the person who dared make a comment about the original ridiculousness.
Yes, I think deep down there is a sexist nature to it, because you never tell the obvious male offenders to calm down cunt. So I called you out on that. You don't like my presentation? Oh well, I think my point was made, and I think you were out of line.
No, I think it has nothing to do with moderating...you are a human dwellar first, moderator second. This was between the Bruce the Dwellar and me.
We don't have to agree on this. You can think that there isn't some lop-sidedness to which cunts you think need calming down (wow, I'd hate to think what you might say if someone REALLY let you have it) and I can think that there is. Then again, most people will tip-toe as not to offend you...that is their MO. I don't live my life with such trickery. I don't need to. The way I re-read every post in your outline of what transpired: I still see it the way I saw it from the beginning.
This thread is an example of one of the more minor reasons I don't visit post that much anymore. I enjoy political and social discussion and don't mind being in the minority. The cellar has been slightly to the left since the very first day I strolled in. It has just become tiresome though. Too many playing the martyr. Too many who cry racism, sexism, or classism about for anyone who disagrees with current policies. I know there are some guys who are far right who aren't doing any better so this isn't just one sided.
This thread is an example of one of the more minor reasons I don't visit post that much anymore. I enjoy political and social discussion and don't mind being in the minority. The cellar has been slightly to the left since the very first day I strolled in. It has just become tiresome though. Too many playing the martyr. Too many who cry racism, sexism, or classism about for anyone who disagrees with current policies. I know there are some guys who are far right who aren't doing any better so this isn't just one sided.
:thumb:
The defense rests, though I know the prosecution won't.
What more validation could you ever ask for, a thumbs up from merc? ;)
I think you forgot, Mission Accomplished.
What more validation could you ever ask for, a thumbs up from merc? ;)
:D
Satan tell Chris there will be one more for dinner! ;)
Yes, I think deep down there is a sexist nature to it, because you never tell the obvious male offenders to calm down cunt. So I called you out on that. You don't like my presentation? Oh well, I think my point was made, and I think you were out of line.
No, I think it has nothing to do with moderating...you are a human dwellar first, moderator second
I certainly dont get the need for "cunt" references that fly around here when a few posters feel challenged. I think it is offensive and childish.'
A double standard? You got that right!
And so I can understand, what is a moderator supposed to do around here anyway?
In other moderated political forums in which I have participated, the name-calling and character assassination or a series of inane pictorial displays would be called out by the mods for what they are.
More sniveling.
Could you explain the necessity for your series of
10 inane partisan pics?
How does that contribute to a constructive adult discussion...or the "nazis" and/or "cunts" and "whores" references?
You dont think that is childish?
Could you explain the necessity for your series of 10 inane partisan pics? How does that contribute to an adult discussion?
Because they are funny as hell? Does it bother you that people make fun of your hero's? :lol: I don't know, can you explain your sniveling? probably not.
Because they are funny as hell? Does it bother you that people make fun of your hero's? :lol: I don't know, can you explain your sniveling? probably not.
Oh calm down, cunt.
pssst: is it worse to be a martyr or a cunt? I want to make sure I choose the road least travelled. Those seem to be the choices. :rolleyes:
Because they are funny as hell? Does it bother you that people make fun of your hero's? :lol:
I would suggest it is only funny to those insecure in their own ability to carry on an adult discussion.
I think more people are laughing at you than with you.
Nothing you say bothers me...at least no more than a petulant child is bothersome.
But, hey, what ever turns you on, dude.
Oh calm down, cunt.
pssst: is it worse to be a martyr or a cunt? I want to make sure I choose the road least travelled. Those seem to be the choices. :rolleyes:
:lol:
http://www.bartleby.com/119/1.htmlI would suggest it is only funny to those insecure in their own ability to carry on an adult discussion.
I think more people are laughing at you then with you.
But, hey, what ever turns you on, dude.
:lol: now you resort to pretentious sniveling.
:p
merc, through it all, sometimes you make me smile. ;) (Well, except for the other parts like directly above)
But this, yeah:
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
But which path was it! :D
I won't know for ages and ages hence. My hope is that it was the good road for ME. So far, so good.
Originally Posted by SamIam
...but I try to be low key. I'm just not interested in flame wars..
Originally Posted by SamIam
Well, Spex, do you maybe, just maybe hate organized religion? I am going to take a great intellectural leap here and assume that you do. I have no desire to attempt to discuss religion with an individual whose mind is already made up. Go follow your bliss, but don't expect me to sign on for your journey.
Hmmmmmm...
I hardly think that response was along the same lines as "shut up, cunt." If you can't take a bit of sarcasm, you should get out of the game. And yes, that was mild compared with what we've been talking about. :stickpoke
I hardly think that response was along the same lines as "shut up, cunt." If you can't take a bit of sarcasm, you should get out of the game. And yes, that was mild compared with what we've been talking about. :stickpoke
Now that there was thumb-worthy. Where's the damn thumb? :p
I disagree with you Bruce. Your MO, as well as LO's, is to, when confronted with your double standards and inability to speak to the subject at hand (bruised egos) is to turn it all around on the person who dared make a comment about the original ridiculousness.
That's because every time some one disagrees with you, it's somehow a personal attack, and if you don't insult them into submission it's never because you're wrong, it's because you're female.
Yes, I think deep down there is a sexist nature to it, because you never tell the obvious male offenders to calm down cunt. So I called you out on that. You don't like my presentation? Oh well, I think my point was made, and I think you were out of line.
Show me where I've said that to anyone.
No, I think it has nothing to do with moderating...you are a human dwellar first, moderator second. This was between the Bruce the Dwellar and me.
We don't have to agree on this. You can think that there isn't some lop-sidedness to which cunts you think need calming down (wow, I'd hate to think what you might say if someone REALLY let you have it) and I can think that there is. Then again, most people will tip-toe as not to offend you...that is their MO. I don't live my life with such trickery. I don't need to. The way I re-read every post in your outline of what transpired: I still see it the way I saw it from the beginning.
I'm sure you do, for the reasons stated above. You don't have to tip-toe, I sure the fuck won't.
That's because every time some one disagrees with you, it's somehow a personal attack, and if you don't insult them into submission it's never because you're wrong, it's because you're female
No, THIS TIME I said that you were out of line with your calling of the cunts. This is all you have? It's not working.
Is cunt not a decidedly female thing to call a female dwellar? Where is this not connecting for you?
Sometimes people say things because it's the TRUTH.
I hardly think that response was along the same lines as "shut up, cunt." If you can't take a bit of sarcasm, you should get out of the game. And yes, that was mild compared with what we've been talking about. :stickpoke
You're perpetuating a myth, Sam, repeating it doesn't make it true.
You don't have to tip-toe, I sure the fuck won't.
It is not a matter of tip-toeing, but rather being respectful of others who may have opinions with which you disagree.
Bruce, I'm not singling you out, but IMO, there is a demonstrable lack of respect around here on many occasions that emanates from some of the more conservative members when they are challenged.
It is not a matter of tip-toeing, but rather being respectful of others who may have opinions with which you disagree.
Bruce, I'm not singling you out, but IMO, there is a demonstrable lack of respect around here on many occasions that emanates from some of the more conservative members when they are challenged.
You already singled me out.
I certainly dont get the need for "cunt" references that fly around here when a few posters feel challenged. I think it is offensive and childish.'
A double standard? You got that right!
And so I can understand, what is a moderator supposed to do around here anyway?
In other moderated political forums in which I have participated, the name-calling and character assassination or a series of inane pictorial displays would be called out by the mods for what they are.
But I ignored it, because I don't fucking care how how you think the forum should operate.
It is not a matter of tip-toeing, but rather being respectful of others who may have opinions with which you disagree.
Bruce, I'm not singling you out, but IMO, there is a demonstrable lack of respect around here on many occasions that emanates from some of the more conservative members when they are challenged.
sniveling.
sniveling.
Thank you for making my point.
Thank you for making my point.
More sniveling.
You already singled me out.
When did I single you out?
But I ignored it, because I don't fucking care how how you think the forum should operate.
Ok.
I think that is unfortunate. One would think that as a moderator, you would want to make this place more conducive to the exchange of ideas.
We are exchanging ideas. I think you are a dick, and you think I am a dick. See how that works. And no I will not respect you in the morning.
We are exchanging ideas. I think you are a dick, and you think I am a dick. See how that works. And no I will not respect you in the morning.
And you think that is constructive?
An asshole is an asshole and it does not matter whether its left, right or in the middle. Some just don't recognize their assholiness, but that is no reason for someone to be rude when pointing it out. :)
And you think that is constructive?
I just don't care what you think.
When have you not been allowed to state your opinion, or read other's opinions?
An asshole is an asshole and it does not matter whether its left right or in the middle. Some just don't recognize their assholiness, but that is no reason for someone to be rude when pointing it out. :)
You are right. I completely recognized my assholiness to Redux. And I sleep well at night.
When have you not been allowed to state your opinion, or read other's opinions?
Never...but that wasnt my point.
Perhaps I was not clear.
IMO, the level of discourse often deteriorates to personal attacks and character assassination and there are several people who are never called out on it.
Let me be even more clear...I'm not offended when it happens to me, which is quite often. I dont take anything directed at me seriously, but IMO, as Shawnee noted, there is a double standard.
So call people out on what you have a problem with - why do you need Bruce to hold your hand?
So call people out on what you have a problem with - why do you need Bruce to hold your hand?
Sigh.
That is not my point, either.
I dont need hand-holding and I have called people out. I can get in the gutter with the best of them. I would prefer not to.
But I am trying to address the issue of how to raise the level of discourse, and I include myself and my "contributions" to the discussion..... if anyone cares.
So you want to raise the "level of discourse" to the point of where everyone agrees with your propaganda. I get it. Go to a forum where everyone agrees with you or is easily fooled by the BS you post.
So you want to raise the "level of discourse" to the point of where everyone agrees with your propaganda. I get it. Go to a forum where everyone agrees with you or is easily fooled by the BS you post.
See..that is exactly what I mean...twisting my words to suit yourself. You know that is not what I said.
It is not a matter of agreeing with me, but a matter of respecting others opinions and defending your own positions and opinions w/o making it personal.
Like I said, just go somewhere where you want people to play by your rules. I know, start your own forum. I am sure that you will get a lot of people to come and agree with your talking points.
What the fuck are you talking about? Who gets called out? Are you calling someone out? The only people I call out, are the ones that attack me.
I know you want the forum to be strictly controlled, so it reads like a panel discussion or something. Those panel discussions are not really discussions, they are just listing talking points in turn, all nice and neat. That ain't happening here.
You're full of shit redux. I called you out on your "most people agree with me not you merc" bullshit, which is a dishonest debate tactic and you immediately declared I was a merc groupie conservative. You're the worst one at everything you bitch about.
Like I said, just go somewhere where you want people to play by your rules. I know, start your own forum. I am sure that you will get a lot of people to come and agree with your talking points.
Nope...bullies like you always want those to expose you for what you are to go somewhere else. I'm not that easily bullied.
I'll continue to expose you as the partisan hack that you are and the so-called "facts" that you espouse that are nothing more than wingnut talking points. :D
You're full of shit redux. I called you out on your "most people agree with me not you merc" bullshit, which is a dishonest debate tactic and you immediately declared I was a merc groupie conservative. You're the worst one at everything you bitch about.
On nol
Now I have been "jinxed" :eek:
I guesss that means more gutter sniping.....bring it on!
I promise I wont call you a "cunt" under any circumstances. Not my style :)
Way to raise the level of discourse.
I have made a point to keep my more radical views on many issues which I feel very strong about confined to those threads where they should be confined. I did stray a bit over a year ago, I was called out on it by the community, I figured out how to maintain and express my views to those areas that are most important to me within those narrow topics. That is what I do. If you don't like Redux, I don't really care.
BTW you dragged the topic into this discussion.
Do you see that you're not fooling anyone redux? We all think you're an idiot.
Stop that, you're resorting to his tactics. Consider yourself moderated... uh, because you're a chick. ;)
Calm down, that was my whole point...
:D
I know you want the forum to be strictly controlled, so it reads like a panel discussion or something. Those panel discussions are not really discussions, they are just listing talking points in turn, all nice and neat. That ain't happening here.
No..I dont want it strictly controlled, but I am not particularly interested in simply reading the incessant snipping of articles/opinions....or the personal attacks that follow when those snips are challenged.
Then move on. Because I am going to be on these issues until I see changes in how the government operates.
Then move on.
Nope...as I said, I'll just keep exposing your bullshit and childish antics.
Do you see that you're not fooling anyone redux? We all [COLOR="Red"](you and Merc?[/COLOR]) think you're an idiot.
LOL.
Anytime, you want to discuss the issues...bring it on! Merc certainly doesnt want to discuss anything. If you disagree with him, you "fail"...but please, show some originality and try a different approach.
Nope...as I said, I'll just keep exposing your bullshit and childish antics.
See you around the block then.
My attempts at comedy central:
Tip toes in and calls Ebert out for causing a ruckus!
This thread is in derailment. I am putting it on report!
Just because I am a woman doesn't mean I am a pussy!
( modified SG quote)
besides I don't tip toe I pirouette!
Anyone laughing yet? :corn:
Do you see that you're not fooling anyone redux? We all think you're an idiot.
I don't.
I do. The attacks you've presented in this thread alone show that you are more interested in bringing down Merc and those who agree with him more than raising the level of discussion. You're being a hypocrite Redux.
I do. The attacks you've presented in this thread alone show that you are more interested in bringing down Merc and those who agree with him more than raising the level of discussion. You're being a hypocrite Redux.
I would suggest it is more calling him out for bullshit that he represents as facts rather than an attempt to bring him down.
But, hey, you are entitled to you own opinion.
Perhaps you can tell me how his
"contribution" of 10 inane pics (one might be seen as funny...but ten?) contributes to a discussion or how it is constructive for him to scream "failed" w
hen his snips are exposed for being less than factually correct or when I, or anyone, offer an opinion that differs from his?
Do you see that you're not fooling anyone redux? We all think you're an idiot.
I don't either. Don't speak for the entire board. :eyebrow:
Srsly??? Are you and Shaw tail-posting or did the joke go over your heads?
People don't really want to discuss politics, politics is really just an excuse to team up bicker isn't it? For. Fuck. Sake.
You're perpetuating a myth, Sam, repeating it doesn't make it true.
See? You men all stick together! :lol:
Satan tell Chris there will be one more for dinner! ;)
Hell no. I usually let Jesus deal with stuff like this since fighting over petty shit gives me a headache. He has patience, mercy, and these other so called "compromising traits". I just give each person a sword, throw them in a lion pit, and see if any survive.
:corn:
See? You men all stick together! :lol:
Hey. I've given money to NOW and Emily's List....good socialist causes that value giving women an equal voice :p
Deleted posts don't mean it didn't happen...
ISn't Ebert a movie critic? I mean WTF srsly...
WTF, because he's just a movie critic means he cant post an opinion? THATS especially one of the things that got my goat about conservatives. During the elections, they always got into a snit when actors voiced their political opinions.
oh wait wait, is this a poll? I think Redux is an idiot too... now where is that button?;)
Oh man..a poll? I better call in ACORN to steal the election from the wingnuts. :D
ISn't Ebert a movie critic? I mean WTF srsly...
Yes, primarily. However, he's also a blogger - which is where this column came from.
I suspect that since he's had cancer and lost his voice, he's trying to share his voice in other ways.
I'm a little confused over this post since it seems to differ from:
Gotta post it so it never disappears.
I knew he and Pat were buddies.
After all the shit slinging, I was trying to change the course of the thread.
Fuggit - as you were.
Safe move. But then again you always take the safe move.
Yes, primarily. However, he's also a blogger - which is where this column came from.
Didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
I'm a little confused over this post since it seems to differ from:
I knew he and Pat were buddies.
I was referring to Rush and Robertson, not Ebert.
Safe move. But then again you always take the safe move.
yeh, right. :headshake
How bout Danny Glover . . .
Says Glover: “When we see what we did at the climate summit in Copenhagen, this is the response, this is what happens, you know what I’m sayin’?” His obscene opinion would be bigger news if Glover had – in the manner of others – idiotically blamed a less-fashionable deity.
Link
So it isn't the fault of a pact with the Debbil or some voodoo shit - Its because of the failed talks in Copenhagen.
Gotcha - - - NOT.
politics turns people into assholes. it's magical