Gettin all fat and puffy and shit.
I've been sedentary since before christmas and have been very irregular with my 4-6 mile walk. And eating too much salt. And bread. And cow milk.
:greenface
Now I'm bloaty McBloat.
:(
Once again back to real food and regular exercise.
:eyebrow:
lol @ bloaty mcbloat
but you must be in pretty good shape if you can walk 4 to 6 miles. I can walk one mile maybe which is very sad. :(
SALT
Ever notice how when you were young you could eat chips with no problem then that salt becomes somewhat like sandpaper on the tongue? I can barely tolerate it anymore.
Man, if we're sticking with the notion that squirrell nutkin is footfootfoot's drunk alterego, he's been on like a three-week bender at this point... Maybe it's all the booze making you fat, eh??
prolly can't remember the f3 password.
I knew he is foot. I had to check him out. I like him better this way, all nice and furry.
that's what you say
and yet in a way
i only come out
when you're feeling gay
It would be fun to do a poll to see how many screen names people have.
This place is really too small for too many alter egos. A person begins to learn them after awhile.
ahem lj
of course you are obviously obvious about yours.
I don't have any being I'm boring these days
and sleepy
time to read a book
I think it's time for me to make a mocking sockpuppet of sky.
you'll know her when you meet her.
Sky, for $10 I'll ban your sockpuppet. ;)
No, I got tired of Foot3 and haven't been on a bender. I am jsut feeling naturally impertinent.
In fact, I read the "Tale of Squirrel Nutkin" tonight to the minor nuts and saw how my mood and my namesake's were in sync.
Excessively impertinent and have no good manners...
I have 3, but only use one of them here! :)
Gawd, I'm fat too. 10 lbs. over the holidays! Of course some of that, I'm convinced, is the meds I was taking. So I quit taking them. Just for a little while to see if there's correlation. Doesn't make sense when the doc tells you to lose weight to bring your BP down then gives you a BP med that makes you gain weight! I've lost a couple pounds so far, so maybe it'll work, and YES I am checking my BP at home and YES I will go in to the doc and ask for something different.
The squirrel needs to strap on some x-country skis or join an adult hockey league.
I'm fed up. I've increased my exercise and cut down my food intake significantly -especially the fat and calories and haven't lost one lb in two weeks. And it's not like I didn't exercise before, so it's not a sudden increase in muscle tissue..... fuck it :(
Piggy McFoodeater here. I am not fat. I've developed huge pseudomuscles that allow me to sit for long periods without tiring.
I'm fed up. I've increased my exercise and cut down my food intake significantly -especially the fat and calories and haven't lost one lb in two weeks. And it's not like I didn't exercise before, so it's not a sudden increase in muscle tissue..... fuck it
Try fasting for a day or two....
then after, eat only the most basic of foods or anything unprocessed - totally stay away from any white foods, but keep your meals balanced - protein/good carb/good fat, That should jump start it.
I had gastric bypass almost 3 years ago and have lost 250lbs but since I have been settling in to a great marriage, I have gained a few pounds back so...I'm trying to get back to eating less and exercising more but for some reason my mind wants to do the opposite!
Weird...after a four month plateau, taking 6 weeks off from the gym, eating whatever I wanted over the holidays, I am, as of today, showing a 4 pound weight loss (since Fri).
TFW. :headshake:eyebrow::3_eyes:
Ha! Ha! Guess whose sock puppet I am! I am fed up to here with my weight. Nothing I do seems to make a difference. I binge, I stay at the same weight. I starve -still same weight. I exercise - still the same weight. I am resigned to waddling into a plump middle age. :headshake
Try fasting for a day or two....then after, eat only the most basic of foods or anything unprocessed - totally stay away from any white foods, but keep your meals balanced - protein/good carb/good fat, That should jump start it.
Um, thanks but no. I am still alive and human.
LOL...Its a really tough diet to follow. Especially when you live with others. I only managed it when I was single.
Okay, the REAL problem is this:
I am not overweight.
I am undertall!
I'm fed up. I've increased my exercise and cut down my food intake significantly -especially the fat and calories and haven't lost one lb in two weeks. And it's not like I didn't exercise before, so it's not a sudden increase in muscle tissue..... fuck it :(
Keep at ya whiner, it'll even out eventually... and weight loss isn't the only benefit to your efforts. You know all that...
Mix it up though, do some different stuff, get some muscle confusion going. Try to do complicated mental tasks when you're cardioing, it burns more calories - even just walking backwards will do it.
Intervals too, 2 or 3 level of heart rate over and over again.
I did an hour on the treadmill at 3.4 mph, and then 5 minutes on the stairbastard at oldman speed. then crunches and leg curls and squats.
I did an hour on the treadmill at 3.4 mph, and then 5 minutes on the stairbastard at oldman speed. then crunches and leg curls and squats.
this man deserves a rum and coke with a side of bacon-topped donuts!
even just walking backwards will do it.
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Ha! walked backwards in the snow today -my friend found it easier to drag her feet, I found it easier to pick mine up, so we swapped methods and both got an extra workout (we were walking backwards because the ice wind was ripping our faces off).
I do mix it up, and I can feel the benefit -at least of the crunchies -I'm just whining :D
- even just walking backwards will do it.
I have a hard enough time walking FORWARDS!!
I had gastric bypass almost 3 years ago and have lost 250lbs but since I have been settling in to a great marriage, I have gained a few pounds back so...I'm trying to get back to eating less and exercising more but for some reason my mind wants to do the opposite!
Yay for you Jujuwwhite :) I'm still in my 'honeymoon' phase from my surgery - and am struggling with staying on track :) I have found some really good online resources if you're interested - just let me know!
Dagney
I'm still in my 'honeymoon' phase from my surgery - and am struggling with staying on track :)
Dagney
Congrats! How long has it been for you? Did you have full bypass or the lap band?
I had the full RNY on 12/8/08, so I'm just over a year out :) Still losing (when I do what I'm supposed to - that's the hard part!)
Sky, for $10 I'll ban your sockpuppet. ;)
:right: :right: :right: :right: :right: :right:
nah for $10 give me the password :litebulb: :D
I had the full RNY on 12/8/08, so I'm just over a year out :) Still losing (when I do what I'm supposed to - that's the hard part!)
Hang in there, you have gotten over the worst part of it. The first year was the hardest for me, learning how to eat again. You are right about doing what you are supposed to do, that is the hardest part but the most beneficial. Please take your daily vitamins if you aren't. That is crucial to your recovery as well as your well being.
I'm here for ya if you need any support or anything from someone who's been there.
I had the full RNY on 12/8/08, so I'm just over a year out :) Still losing (when I do what I'm supposed to - that's the hard part!)
What does R N Y stand for?
and isn't gastric bypass a procedure that makes your capacity for food so tiny that you physically CAN'T over eat?
how then can you NOT 'do what you're supposed to do'? I don't know enough to ask about this politely, and i'm not trying to be rude to you.....but could you elaborate?
R N Y stands for Roux-En-Y don't really know what that means exactly but there are several hundred websites that describe exactly what it is and how it works in medical terms which go way beyond my head!! So I will attempt it in simple terms as I understand it...:p
The doc cuts a very small pouch from your stomach (about the size of a thimble) and re-attaches it to your small intestine. Some doctors totally take out the rest of your stomach, but my doc left it just free floating in my gut because it is still a living organ producing necessary gastric juices..(yuck!) That way it serves 2 purposes...1 is obviously smaller intakes and 2 is less absorption to the body. Yes, your new stomach will stretch to evidently become about a 4 oz pouch but it takes some getting used to. If you don't follow doctors orders exactly it can lead to vomitting, dumping syndrome, and other fun stuff. It causes rapid weight loss as your body adjusts to the new amounts.
As long as you eat the necessary amounts of protein, drink plenty of water, avoid carbonated drinks, don't overeat, and take your daily supplements, you do fine. Otherwise...well it's not so pleasant.
I hope this answers your questions.
Thousands of years from now, they're going to find one of us frozen in the tundra of the unexpected Ice Age, and they're going to examine it top to bottom... but try as they might, their cultural anthropologists will have absolutely no explanation for the surgically disconnected stomach. They will conclude it must either be part of a religious ceremony, or torture of an enemy.
Ha! Never thought of that, clod, but guess what else they will find when they examine me???? My skinny ass in a pair of tight jeans with perky tits and if they look at my disconnected stomach then the other anthropologists can conclude that they are either gay or ball less monks! LOL
Won't we have kept better records than, say, cavemen?
You think that stuff's gonna survive the apocalypse? I don't know about you, but if I'm dying of hypothermia, those priceless cultural records are going to make a very nice bonfire.
Juju, I think you're a lot hotter now than you will be then. On the other hand, Otzi does have a lovely tan.
Thousands of years from now, they're going to find one of us frozen in the tundra of the unexpected Ice Age, and they're going to examine it top to bottom... but try as they might, their cultural anthropologists will have absolutely no explanation for the surgically disconnected stomach. They will conclude it must either be part of a religious ceremony, or torture of an enemy.
Heh. When I was in elementary school, I had to write an essay from the point of view of a future archaeologist about a modern item. Even at such a tender age, I had realized what the archaeologist's default answer was. I wrote that the Wacky Wallwalker must have had some religious significance.
Somehow I'm less hungry than before...
Another tale of archeology making a mistake.
A team of archaeologists were working in Jerusalem when they found a slab of rock with five figures carved on it. In order the figures were:
1) A Woman. 2) A Donkey. 3) A Shovel. 4) A Fish. 5) A Star of David.
After months of studying the rock and figures on it, the leader took the rock and went on a lecture tour. He said the carvings were several thousands of years old but even so they revealed a lot about the people of that time.
1) The woman being placed first in the line of figures indicated that women were held in very high esteem. It was most likely a family oriented culture.
2) The donkey indicated they had domesticated animals. They probably used the donkey to till the fields.
3) The shovel shows they were highly intelligent as they knew how to make tools.
4) The fish shows they knew how to augment the crops they raised by also reaping from the sea.
5) The Star of David of course indicates they were a very religious group of people.
A little old man in the front row finally got the attention of the speaker. When acknowledged he said "I'm sorry to you buddy, but Hebrew reads from right to left. What it really says is:
"Holy mackerel dig the ass on that woman!"
What does R N Y stand for?
and isn't gastric bypass a procedure that makes your capacity for food so tiny that you physically CAN'T over eat?
how then can you NOT 'do what you're supposed to do'? I don't know enough to ask about this politely, and i'm not trying to be rude to you.....but could you elaborate?
Didn't take it as rude at all :) (Was just swamped at work or I'd have replied earlier).
JuJu pretty much covered the 'technical' aspects of the surgery -(Image below shows you how you're re-plumbed)
When it comes to not doing what I'm supposed to do - I have problems eating 'firm proteins'. We're all a little different - but for me, if I eat anything over 3/4 c of food at a time, I am a sick puppy. I also have trouble eating 'firm proteins - certain things give me a lot of problems. (Ground beef = EVIL!) With the problems that I have, I find myself turning to things that we call 'slider foods' which tend to be higher in carbs than I should really have - I should be getting 80-90g of protein a day, but when I eat that many grams, I feel physically ill, unless I'm drinking protein shakes which is what I'm doing lately..(no jokes about the man made protein shakes, I get that at work *G*) Also, if you drink with what you eat, it slides through your stoma faster, and you end up hungry sooner....which leads to a pretty stupid cycle...eat, drink, hunger, eat drink, hunger...lather rinse repeat.
I'm back on track for now, so tomorrow I'll post what I had for the day, so you can see a 'typical' day for someone in the active loss phase of WLS. And actually, when I do what I'm supposed to do, I'm not hungry - my pouch just doesn't WANT food. (And my pants fall off faster!)
It's a tough row to hoe- but seeing that I'm not taking any meds for my Diabetes, when I was taking 2 shots and 2 pills a day, and only one pill (very low dosage) for hypertension, I'll take the struggle :)
Besides, My ass looks awesome in jeans according to my hubby *G* That's also a plus!
Hang in there, you have gotten over the worst part of it. The first year was the hardest for me, learning how to eat again. You are right about doing what you are supposed to do, that is the hardest part but the most beneficial. Please take your daily vitamins if you aren't. That is crucial to your recovery as well as your well being.
I'm here for ya if you need any support or anything from someone who's been there.
JuJu,
You can say that again, one thing I constantly deal with is the 'old habits' that I left behind before surgery - I was a HUGE stress eater -when I'd get worked up at work, carbs were my friend - now, I have to find another way to get rid of that frustration...needless to say, I am VERY productive :)
Life is good though, as I mentioned above, I'd do it again in a heart beat. It grates my nerves to hear some folks (no one here) say that I took the 'easy way out'. By no measure is my life 'easy'. I have to be conscious of what I do, how I do it, and what I'm putting in my mouth every minute of the day. Someone asked me the other day if it's worth it. My body was dragging me down the path into an ugly place if I didn't do SOMETHING about it, and I knew that this was the only way I could do something about it. It was the right choice for me, and I'm glad I did it :) Won't see me in the Nakey Thread any time soon, but hey, I like what I see in the mirror!
Dag
JuJu,
It grates my nerves to hear some folks (no one here) say that I took the 'easy way out'. By no measure is my life 'easy'. I have to be conscious of what I do, how I do it, and what I'm putting in my mouth every minute of the day.
My body was dragging me down the path into an ugly place if I didn't do SOMETHING about it,
Dag
Dag, you have NO idea how many people who don't understand what you truly go through have told me I took the 'simple' or 'easy' way out! I want to scream
'you have NO fucking idea!' when I hear that comment! And now that I am 3 yrs out my struggle is truly beginning. The first 2 years your body kinda does the hard work for you as long as you make the right decisions about what you put in your body. But now...I'm back to having to doing the hard work for myself and I am really having some issues getting motivated to do it! I have all the right equipment for working out but just can't seem to get motivated to do it.
I believe that when capn gets over all this teeth surgery things will improve because (especially after he reads this. HAHA) he will encourage me and even exercise with me and it will be easier to find that motivation.
I have noticed my once loose clothes are now getting snug again so I know that I have no time to loose if I'm not careful!
It grates my nerves to hear some folks (no one here) say that I took the 'easy way out'.
It sure doesn't sound easy to me. :thepain:
It's really not THAT bad...you just have to sacrifice a little spontaneity for planning ahead. When I travel, I make sure I take my protein sources with me, so I always have something that will boost my numbers. I'm pretty well versed in things that I can eat, and can usually always find something on the menu wherever my hubby wants to go. I pack my meals at work, which saves a lot of mone - also a good thing because I shrink out of clothes in a heartbeat.
All in all, it's been a positive experience - not easy - but easily the best decision I made for myself!
Dag and juju: I've also heard people say it was the best decision they could make for themselves. It couldn't have been an easy decision. I know, because a friend of mine went through it before my very eyes, that it's not easy. However, she had spent her whole life very big. She was happy in who she was to some extent, before the surgery, but I watched her start to feel good about herself, physically.
For her, it was so new that the adjustment period was particularly painful. She made some abrupt changes marriage-wise and career-wise. I think, in retrospect, that she needed to just start over.
I'm asking with all due respect, did you experience that? I was with my friend as she dealt with all of it, but I can't say I really understood it, only because I saw her go through some hard times.
Anyway, congratulations. Just keep taking care of yourselves the best you can. :) You're already there, you already made a hard decision! Feel good.
As for me, Shawnee, I was divorced and living on my own so I was honestly able to say I made the decision for myself not for anyone else's acceptance. I too was 'satisfied and content' with being a over sized woman. It didn't stop me from living a life, or so I thought...LOL I had to make my decision to have my surgery after they thought I was having heart problems, but thank God it wasn't!
Anyway, the heart doctor looked me in my eyes and told me that if I didn't get the weight off I would be dead within 10yrs. See, I already had severe sleep apnea and he explained to me that I would not have a heart attack that could be helped, I would just go to sleep one night and suffocate from my own body weight! It scared me to death to think about dying in my sleep and no one finding me for days! That is how my journey began but it still took 8 months to get through all the red tape of insurance and other fun stuff.
Yes, it was the absolute best thing I ever did for myself. Yes, I too, had an adjustment period of trying to figure out who I was. It's funny because as your obese body begins to melt away before your very eyes, you begin to see the real person emerging. Butterflies became my theme because in so many ways I felt like a caterpillar who was transforming into a beautiful butterfly. That's why there is a large beautiful butterfly tattooed on my chest as a cover up tattoo to a ugly broken heart that was tattooed there.
Thanks for sharing your experience juju. I love your butterfly story. :)
You already made a hard decision feel good.
I think she does that for Capnhowdy every night.
:blush:
oh shush, you'll get them started again....
What was I thinking?
Newlyweds. It's sickening.
oh shush, you'll get them started again....
Nah! He's at work and I'm supposed to be getting dressed to meet him for lunch but I just HAVE to catch up on the cellar first! LOL
Nooner, nooner, nooner. :blush:
Ladies, thank you for sharing this. I'm listening to these stories avidly. I'm considering getting a lap-band or bypass -- I have about 110 lbs I need to lose, and apparently the younger you do it, the better the outcomes.
As my doctor says, "Well, right now we've got your body fooled with drugs into thinking it's healthy. But you won't ever be healthy till you lose that weight." I'm on two oral diabetes drugs and a statin (though I may never come off the statins; large genetic component there!)
More questions: can (or should?) you drink alcohol? What do you do about special occasions, or going out to eat with a group? Do your co-workers know?
What are the really long term (20 or 30 years down the road) expectations? I'm 35, so I need to consider a 40 or even 50 year horizon, possibly!
I started eating better for breakfast because my wife said my usual grilled sandwich of Emmenthaler cheese and prosciutto on wheat or rye might not be a good thing for loosing weight. I now have oatmeal for breakfast but since I don't like sugar I put a small pinch of grated Parmesan cheese in it. It kind of ends up like risotto. I also sometimes put in a teaspoon of salsa or some chopped up cooked asparagus. i am also not drinking wine before noon now.
Pie -
I was 37 when I had my surgery - which puts me about in the same age range as you. (Ugh, I'm OLD!)
Before I had my surgery, I told all of my co-workers, I figured they deserved to know, because I was going to be out of the office for a while, and would have a very different way of behaving when I got back to the office. (I"m still a bitch, they can't remove that one!)
Each surgeon's recommendations are different with regards to drinking - some say that you shouldn't ever again, some say that you can after 12-18 months. Mine is of the 'don't ever again' school, and since I'm still in the active losing phase, it doesn't bother me - they're empty carbs that I don't need - and I really don't miss it. I've heard stories of people who get very drunk off of very little because of how things have been re-plumbed, and recommend that if you do drink - you do it at home or around people you trust until you know how it will affect you. Juju would be able to give you a better perspective of 'further out' than I can - so hopefully she'll chime in when she can.
With regards to dining out and special occasions - for the first 6 months, I ate at home. I was eating so little, and was still learning the ropes that I wanted to make sure that I would be okay. The few times I did try to dine out, I found myself getting sick because food was either too dry, or not prepared in a way that made it easy for my pouch to process. It was just easier, and a lot less embarrassing to get sick at home, then when out with friends. Now though, my hubby and I do dine out a few times a week. I generally order kid's meals, or something small, and end up bringing half (or more than half) home for lunch the next day or another meal. I promised myself that when I did this, I would not let the pouch stop me from enjoying my life - I would just have to make modifications to how I did it. Hanging out with true foodies has been a little hard - I do have some issues with sugars and carbs, so I try to avoid them when possible, and I do okay there.
If you are truly considering this step in your life, I will answer any questions that you have that I can answer. I've got a bookshelf of resources that I will recommend if you want. For example, if you want to get into a community of people who have had WLS (rny, band, DS, etc) or are waiting for the surgery - I would recommend obesityhelp.com - there is a LOT of information there :)
Kellie
Actually, it's transfer addiction - not alcoholism per se. People who do not deal with the underlying cause of their food addiction (the thing that required them needing the surgery in the first place) that addiction will be transferred to something else, shopping, drinking, exercise, etc.
So, to say that the surgery causes the alcoholism is inaccurate - it can contribute to it, but the true cause lies much deeper.
ETA - yeah, that article says pretty much the same thing.
OOOH exercise addicts. I worked for a while in a nautilus club, the reformed heroin addicts were out of their minds. I imagine it takes a lot of endorphins to equal a dime bag.
As far as the alcohol, my doctor's are on the side of avoiding it all together, but as you can tell from my New Year's Eve celebration, I don't follow that rule. I will tell you this and CapnHowdy can back me up on it, I'm a cheap drunk! I can be feeling pretty high off 1 good stiff drink but 2 or 3 and I'm dancing off the walls naked! But, I get straight almost just as fast as I got drunk. My body burns off the alcohol really fast especially if I'm up dancing and stuff which makes me drink more to get high again. Yes, you can imagine it can cause a vicious cycle that I really have to keep in check! Plus, I have started putting on a few pounds and it is probably partly caused from the empty calories of the alcohol.
Sugar is my biggest problem! In the beginning my body would 'get drunk' off the alcohol of the sugar products. I could eat a candy bar and be extremely drunk and then have to sleep it off. My mom has literally had to take my car keys away from me several times when I would slip up and eat something really sweet. I have learned to eat sugar in moderation and eat it AFTER a meal that way I'm not eating it on an empty stomach.
I do eat out now occassionally but I promise you, you will never get your money's worth going to a buffet! Some doctors will give you a card that you can show to resturants that explain you have a small pouch for a stomach and some of the resturants will allow you to pay a child's rate. But for me, it's just easier to avoid such places and only go to resturants that offer child sized meals. I have been known to simply order off the appetizer menu.
You go girl!
I will finish your plate off at the buffet!
....gets off cellar and hits the gazelle .....
I will finish your plate off at the buffet!
That's a euphemism for more honeymoon sex, isn't it?
....gets off cellar and hits the gazelle .....
and that.... JUST PACK IT IN WILL YOU ...some of us have been married for 16 years and more....
That's a euphemism for more honeymoon sex, isn't it?
actually no, he was being serious. When we went to the Chinese Buffet today, I ate all I could and passed him my plate and he finished it off. (See, we don't always stay in the gutter!) :)
and that.... JUST PACK IT IN WILL YOU ...some of us have been married for 16 years and more....