Ammonia in Ground Beef

I can see this Zicato character is going to be a trouble maker. he's already casting aspersions on the US ammonia industry. :rolleyes:

Yeah Pete, if that is your real name, what could possibly be wrong with:

The company, Beef Products Inc., had been looking to expand into the hamburger business with a product made from beef that included fatty trimmings the industry once relegated to pet food and cooking oil. The trimmings were particularly susceptible to contamination, but a study commissioned by the company showed that the ammonia process would kill E. coli as well as salmonella.

Do these guys work directly for Al Queda or are they just a subsidiary?

Ick! I'll never eat a burger again - at least until I forget this unappetizing tidbit of information. :greenface

They have a very extensive discussion of that process, along with video, in Food, Inc.

Which after seeing, you will not want to eat pretty much anything you didn't personally grow or raise, much less store-bought ground beef. That is unless you are really good about thinking about something else while you eat.

I'll never eat a burger again

Ground beef in cello from supermarkets is generally ground on the premises. Every other burger, including from mid-level chain restaurants, should no longer be considered edible.

From BPI's own website.


11. We are all told to be more "green." I want my food to be "natural." Is this just another chemical in my food?

Ammonia and ammonium hydroxide are naturally occurring in all proteins. Ammonia is essential for life and we have included information about its uses and benefits for you.

Essential for life! That's their sales pitch!?


Question and answer #3 has a whole pdf attached to why ammonia is essential for life.
http://www.beefproducts.com/government_academic/Ammonia-EssentialForLife.pdf

No question and answer on why we need to eat the trimmings usually put in pet food.

That said, we ate McDonald's yesterday. We only eat fast food one every couple of months or so and I must say my garbage burger was delicious. :drool:

I didn't read this article until this morning. I feel no barf reflex or remembrance of any terrible taste. Good thing the big mac is dripping in dressing and cheese which is probably fake too.


Usually I buy lean ground beef from the grocery store. I am glad it is ground on the premises other wise I might stop eating ground beef all together.

skysidhe;625374 wrote:

That said, we ate McDonald's yesterday. We only eat fast food one every couple of months or so and I must say my garbage burger was delicious. :drool:

Beef is for chewing and nutrition... fat and salt, for taste.;)

What do you call a steer with no legs?


Ground beef!

haahahahahah

I'll be here all week folks, try the, umm, ahh hmmm...

So, now that we're eating what we formerly fed our pets, what the hell are our pets eating?

Corn gluten, wheat gluten, chicken necks, feet, cow horns?

I've noticed that the ground beef in the plastic "chub" at Kroger smells faintly ammonia-ish. Actually I don't like any meat from Kroger anyway; I usually get it at IGA or a couple other local grocery stores with better stuff.

I've been planning to get a side of beef and some free-range poultry for the freezer, just have to clean out my garage so I can get to the freezer first! Planning to get it from a local farm, discovered through this site: http://www.eatwild.com/

If I absolutely must eat at McD's or etc., I usually get a salad or baked potato. Can't stand fast food burgers.

Thanks for posting that site Juniper! I found a source in my town. When I checked a few years ago the closest I could find was an hours drive away.

"The federal school lunch program used an estimated 5.5 million pounds of the processed beef last year alone...Since 2005, E. coli has been found 3 times." From the Times story. I wonder what the track record is for free range beef.

"Also, in the last year alone, ammonia has been found an estimated 5.5 million times."

Juniper;625496 wrote:

...If I absolutely must eat at McD's or etc., I usually get a salad or baked potato...

You wouldn't believe what they do to the spuds. ;)

Thanks for the link Juniper. I found 1/4 buys with a list of cuts.

Many years ago I bought from a slaughter house and got not one steak except for a round. I took it for granted people were honest and didn't inquire, having grown up butchering our own beef, I knew there should have been more than just round chucks and stew.

That still bothers me to this day. sheesh. Now with people wanting more organic products these 'eat wild' ranchers come to the Saturday markets.
That's great because single organic steaks at the health food stores are not that great and too expensive.

Now I know where to buy a decent quarter cow if I want thanks to you Juniper :)

Elspode;625470 wrote:

So, now that we're eating what we formerly fed our pets, what the hell are our pets eating?

melamine?

skysidhe;625582 wrote:

Thanks for the link Juniper. I found 1/4 buys with a list of cuts.

Many years ago I bought from a slaughter house and got not one steak except for a round. I took it for granted people were honest and didn't inquire, having grown up butchering our own beef, I knew there should have been more than just round chucks and stew.

That still bothers me to this day. sheesh. Now with people wanting more organic products these 'eat wild' ranchers come to the Saturday markets.
That's great because single organic steaks at the health food stores are not that great and too expensive.

Now I know where to buy a decent quarter cow if I want thanks to you Juniper :)

Sky, we have bought a half a butchered cow before and the only good meat was the ground beef. The steaks were ok, but really not that great. I am not sure we would do it again. If we did we would go to another farmer. The price was certainly right.

TheMercenary;625926 wrote:

Sky, we have bought a half a butchered cow before and the only good meat was the ground beef. The steaks were ok, but really not that great. I am not sure we would do it again. If we did we would go to another farmer. The price was certainly right.

Try steer