My names not William it's Casey.

william talked • Jan 4, 2010 12:35 pm
Hello everyone!

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TheMercenary • Jan 4, 2010 12:36 pm
Hellllloooooooo![/waves]
Shawnee123 • Jan 4, 2010 12:36 pm
Oh, gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up, William.

See ya later William. Take care of yourself, William, and please keep coming back to the Cellar, William.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 12:38 pm
Shawnee123;623358 wrote:
Oh, gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up, William.

See ya later William. Take care of yourself, William, and please keep coming back to the Cellar, William.


Oh look I met my first troll on the cellar.
Cloud • Jan 4, 2010 12:40 pm
so, you couldn't pick a name that reflects yourself, you had to have one randomly assigned? I suspect you are not a real person. Points for proper apostrophe use though.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 12:46 pm
Cloud;623363 wrote:
so, you couldn't pick a name that reflects yourself, you had to have one randomly assigned? I suspect you are not a real person.


NOT TRUE... I could have picked a name that reflects myself, but I choose not to. (I like random)

Yeah, I'm real... very, very, very, very real.
Spexxvet • Jan 4, 2010 12:48 pm
william talked;623368 wrote:
NOT TRUE... I could have picked a name that reflects myself, but I choose not to. (I like random)

Yeah, I'm real... very, very, very, very real.


So why didn't you choose "random", William?
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 12:53 pm
Spexxvet;623370 wrote:
So why didn't you choose "random", William?


because "william talked" spoke to me.

Ha, get it "william talked spoke to me" :blah:
monster • Jan 4, 2010 12:57 pm
oh dear is the two months up already? nice while it lasted.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 1:00 pm
monster;623372 wrote:
oh dear is the two months up already? nice while it lasted.


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glatt • Jan 4, 2010 1:22 pm
william talked;623355 wrote:
My names not William it's Casey.


Miss Jackson, if you're nasty.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 1:31 pm
glatt;623382 wrote:
Miss Jackson, if you're nasty.


what?
Radar • Jan 4, 2010 1:44 pm
Hello UG2, oops I mean William.
classicman • Jan 4, 2010 2:41 pm
Run for the hills, its Emmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
classicman • Jan 4, 2010 2:43 pm
Oh and nice email ya got there . . . williamtalked @ loveholes.net
DanaC • Jan 4, 2010 4:14 pm
Aye, he talked and talked.....but did he really say anything? *ponders*
Sundae • Jan 4, 2010 5:03 pm
Oh lord.
Explains the liberals and atheist comments I suppose.

Haggis at Glatt, made the thread worthwhile.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 5:06 pm
Radar;623393 wrote:
Hello UG2, oops I mean William.


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WHAT[/SIZE]

[SIZE="5"]Is this one of those post shit while on acid forums?[/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"]Not many of you are making much sense.[/SIZE]
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SamIam • Jan 4, 2010 5:07 pm
At least he hasn't started using all caps yet.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 5:09 pm
classicman;623427 wrote:
Oh and nice email ya got there . . . williamtalked @ loveholes.net


Everyone email me something!
Clodfobble • Jan 4, 2010 5:12 pm
See, the thing is, about half of us are aware that you are Emma, fresh-released from your temporary ban. The other half hasn't figured that out, but is still picking up on the irritating habits that got you banned in the first place, and thus you are once again being compared to UG (i.e., Urbane Guerrilla.) You should examine his posts, because while he has similar political beliefs, he's still around because he has a less irritating posting style.
dar512 • Jan 4, 2010 5:13 pm
Have any of the moderators checked to see if William is a sock puppet for emma? Just wondering.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 5:15 pm
classicman;623425 wrote:
Run for the hills, its Emmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh


DanaC;623463 wrote:
Aye, he talked and talked.....but did he really say anything? *ponders*


SamIam;623501 wrote:
At least he hasn't started using all caps yet.


Can someone tell me what's going on here?
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 5:17 pm
Clodfobble;623504 wrote:
See, the thing is, about half of us are aware that you are Emma, fresh-released from your temporary ban. The other half hasn't figured that out, but is still picking up on the irritating habits that got you banned in the first place, and thus you are once again being compared to UG (i.e., Urbane Guerrilla.) You should examine his posts, because while he has similar political beliefs, he's still around because he has a less irritating posting style.


Who are you talking to? :neutral:
Qice • Jan 4, 2010 5:21 pm
I believe she's talking to you :eyebrow:
DanaC • Jan 4, 2010 5:30 pm
Post #18 kind of confirms it. Stylistically. Prior to that I was having slight doubts, thinking maybe this was just a different troll; because font-use etc was so different.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 5:35 pm
dar512;623506 wrote:
Have any of the moderators checked to see if William is a sock puppet for emma? Just wondering.


You mean like lambchop?
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william talked • Jan 4, 2010 5:36 pm
Qice;623510 wrote:
I believe she's talking to you :eyebrow:


What makes her think she knows anything about my political beliefs?
dar512 • Jan 4, 2010 5:41 pm
william talked;623521 wrote:
What makes her think she knows anything about my political beliefs?

I would think this is indicative:

http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=623332&postcount=29
Radar • Jan 4, 2010 5:46 pm
william talked;623500 wrote:
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WHAT[/SIZE]

[SIZE=5]Is this one of those post shit while on acid forums?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]Not many of you are making much sense.[/SIZE]
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No Emma, it's not. Why are you here? Got kicked off of every other forum again?
classicman • Jan 4, 2010 5:51 pm
I would say that emma thinks she smart and figured a way around the IP ban and is using a friends computer or something along those lines.

The use of images in posts, the questioning who is talking to whom, the athiest/liberal/troll diversionary comments et all; all point to one person. Next will be posts in big bold colors. zzzzzzzzz

Perhaps a mod can check on it.
Qice • Jan 4, 2010 5:52 pm
Emma had been banned before I joined this community - and made a reappearance as Severed Penis I believe - (also banned)...
but like a good and loyal lurker I've read damn near every post on this site...
William (or Casey, as you prefer) why not quit while you're ahead?


[COLOR="DarkGreen"]But realizing that you won't - I'll make myself a gimlet, sit back and watch as the spanking commences :right:[/COLOR]
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 5:58 pm
dar512;623522 wrote:
I would think this is indicative:

http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=623332&postcount=29


That said absolutely nothing about my political beliefs. The fact is liberals and atheists are stupid people.

Don't shoot the messenger!
Radar • Jan 4, 2010 5:59 pm
DanaC;623518 wrote:
Post #18 kind of confirms it. Stylistically. Prior to that I was having slight doubts, thinking maybe this was just a different troll; because font-use etc was so different.



She must think we're as retarded as she is. Here's a bit of stylistic proof.

http://www.cellar.org/showpost.php?p=612305&postcount=1


I checked when UT banned her for 2 months, and it doesn't appear that her "time out" is done yet. She must have run out of places to annoy and harass people.
Radar • Jan 4, 2010 6:01 pm
william talked;623529 wrote:
That said absolutely nothing about my political beliefs. The fact is liberals and atheists are stupid people.

Don't shoot the messenger!


The fact is the dumbest liberal or atheist on earth is smarter than Emma will ever be, even when she pretends her name is William.
Spexxvet • Jan 4, 2010 6:02 pm
SamIam;623501 wrote:
At least he hasn't started using all caps yet.


The [COLOR="Red"]c[/COLOR][COLOR="Blue"]o[/COLOR][COLOR="Orange"]l[/COLOR][COLOR="Purple"]o[/COLOR][COLOR="Lime"]r[/COLOR][COLOR="PaleTurquoise"]s[/COLOR] will be coming soon.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 6:03 pm
classicman;623525 wrote:
I would say that emma thinks she smart and figured a way around the IP ban and is using a friends computer or something along those lines.

The use of images in posts, the questioning who is talking to whom, the athiest/liberal/troll diversionary comments et all; all point to one person. Next will be posts in big bold colors. zzzzzzzzz

Perhaps a mod can check on it.


Who is Emma?

Can someone please explain to me whats going on here? Is everyone on this forum a troll?
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 6:06 pm
Qice;623527 wrote:
Emma had been banned before I joined this community - and made a reappearance as Severed Penis I believe - (also banned)...
but like a good and loyal lurker I've read damn near every post on this site...
William (or Casey, as you prefer) why not quit while you're ahead?


[COLOR="DarkGreen"]But realizing that you won't - I'll make myself a gimlet, sit back and watch as the spanking commences :right:[/COLOR]


Quit what while I'm ahead of what? What the hell is going on here? Is this some kind of a joke being played on the newbie?
classicman • Jan 4, 2010 6:06 pm
classicman;623525 wrote:
Next will be posts in big bold colors.

Spexxvet;623532 wrote:
The [COLOR="Red"]c[/COLOR][COLOR="Blue"]o[/COLOR][COLOR="Orange"]l[/COLOR][COLOR="Purple"]o[/COLOR][COLOR="Lime"]r[/COLOR][COLOR="PaleTurquoise"]s[/COLOR] will be coming soon.
classicman • Jan 4, 2010 6:07 pm
william talked;623534 wrote:
Is everyone on this forum a troll?

Yeh, go with that. just go away.
Z҉A҉L҉G҉O • Jan 4, 2010 6:21 pm
Can I smite this bitch? Please??
Radar • Jan 4, 2010 6:22 pm
william talked;623534 wrote:
Who is Emma?

Can someone please explain to me whats going on here? Is everyone on this forum a troll?



No, everyone on this forum isn't a troll. Just you Emma and your buddy UG.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 6:25 pm
Radar;623531 wrote:
The fact is the dumbest liberal or atheist on earth is smarter than Emma will ever be, even when she pretends her name is William.


Who is Emma and why would she pretend that her name is William?
Qice • Jan 4, 2010 6:27 pm
william talked;623535 wrote:
Quit what while I'm ahead of what? What the hell is going on here? Is this some kind of a joke being played on the newbie?


Too late for you now William..... Z*A*L*G*O is here....:headshake
DanaC • Jan 4, 2010 6:27 pm
UG isn't a troll. Mad as a box of frogs, yes, but not a troll.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 6:28 pm
Z҉A҉L҉G҉O;623544 wrote:
Can I smite this bitch? Please??


Which bitch are you talking about? I see a whole forum full of bitches!
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 6:34 pm
Radar;623545 wrote:
No, everyone on this forum isn't a troll. Just you Emma and your buddy UG.


I see you talking to someone named Emma but I don't see anyone here named Emma. Are you tripping on acid or something? I don't know if you're a liberal or not but if you are then you're probably tripping on acid because liberals like tripping on acid while eating free government cheese and watching gay porn.
DanaC • Jan 4, 2010 6:35 pm
Well, that's certainly how I like to spend my weekends.
Radar • Jan 4, 2010 6:38 pm
william talked;623555 wrote:
I see you talking to someone named Emma but I don't see anyone here named Emma. Are you tripping on acid or something? I don't know if you're a liberal or not but if you are then you're probably tripping on acid because liberals like tripping on acid while eating free government cheese and watching gay porn.



I see a temporary ban just wasn't enough for you, Emma. You're not happy unless you're completely banned from every site on the Internet.

Well I for one say it's nice to have you back. Maybe they'll compare you to UG instead of me. At least you two deserve to be compared since you're in the same intellectual league.

I'll admit to being snarky on occasion, especially when others initiate it, but I'll never be the kind of poorly-educated, worthless, idiotic, disgusting, troll like you or UG no matter what anyone else says.
Radar • Jan 4, 2010 6:39 pm
william talked;623552 wrote:
Which bitch are you talking about? I see a whole forum full of bitches!


Talking to yourself now Emma?
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 6:39 pm
Qice;623549 wrote:
Too late for you now William..... Z*A*L*G*O is here....:headshake


To late for what? What the hell is everyone talking about?
Qice • Jan 4, 2010 6:41 pm
DanaC;623558 wrote:
Well, that's certainly how I like to spend my weekends.


Me too! and I am card-carrying republican!
Radar • Jan 4, 2010 6:42 pm
You're a card carrying Republican? How long have you been cheating on your wife with a man in an airport, or molesting children, making excuses for Bush, pretending we had justification for the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan, or being involved in saving and loan scandals, or putting corporations above the American people?
DanaC • Jan 4, 2010 6:44 pm
Well, y'know, there are only so many hours in the day Radar.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 6:46 pm
Radar;623559 wrote:
I see a temporary ban just wasn't enough for you, Emma. You're not happy unless you're completely banned from every site on the Internet.

Well I for one say it's nice to have you back. Maybe they'll compare you to UG instead of me. At least you two deserve to be compared since you're in the same intellectual league.

I'll admit to being snarky on occasion, especially when others initiate it, but I'll never be the kind of poorly-educated, worthless, idiotic, disgusting, troll like you or UG no matter what anyone else says.


I think your username should be Ratard it fits so much better with your posts then Radar does!
Qice • Jan 4, 2010 6:47 pm
Thank you Dana - you beat me to it! :grinnylov
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 6:47 pm
Radar;623561 wrote:
Talking to yourself now Emma?


Who are you talking to?
DanaC • Jan 4, 2010 6:48 pm
Who are you talking to?
pilau • Jan 4, 2010 6:52 pm
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Grrrrrowr!
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 7:02 pm
DanaC;623576 wrote:
Who are you talking to?


[CENTER][SIZE="7"]USE QUOTES PEOPLE![/SIZE]

[SIZE="4"]It would be nice if we knew who you're talking to.[/SIZE][/CENTER]
Qice • Jan 4, 2010 7:04 pm
pilau;623579 wrote:
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Grrrrrowr!


Couldn't agree more!
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 7:29 pm
pilau;623579 wrote:
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Grrrrrowr!


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DanaC • Jan 4, 2010 7:32 pm
*chuckles*
Elspode • Jan 4, 2010 7:58 pm
william talked;623529 wrote:
That said absolutely nothing about my political beliefs. The fact is liberals and atheists are stupid people.


No, the fact is that Conservatives and mindless Christians are stupid people.

Okay, now that we're all at neutral again, can we ban her?
Elspode • Jan 4, 2010 8:07 pm
Atheists: I don't believe in anything but this, right here, right now. Dead is dead.

Christians:
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I'd say we're all batshit crazy.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 8:13 pm
Elspode;623615 wrote:
No, the fact is that Conservatives and mindless Christians are stupid people.

Okay, now that we're all at neutral again, can we ban her?


How smart is it to make the choice to burn in hell for all eternity?

How do you know I'm a girl? Casey is also a boys name.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 8:19 pm
Elspode;623619 wrote:

I'd say we're all batshit crazy.


When did "batshit crazy" become the new cliche that everyone who uses it thinks their being unique?
Elspode • Jan 4, 2010 8:22 pm
How smart is it to accept an ancient hodgepodge of mythology as eternal Truth? For that matter, how smart is it to assume that have The Truth (tm)? Further, how smart is it to go around passing judgement on your fellow beings, working your ass off to deny them the same rights that you enjoy, based upon that same hodgepodge...which, by the way, specifically states "judge not lest ye be judged"?

Unless you've read the Holy Scriptures all the way back to the original texts, untranslated and unadultered and unfiltered, or had a direct visitation from God/Jesus (and I'm gonna want video/audio/electromagnetic measurements as evidence), y'all might want to just walk *your* walk and let the rest of us figure it out on our own.

Oh, wait...you *can't*. 'Cause there's that whole evangelical imperative thing. You've been condemned to a life of ramming a 50/50 choice down people's throats, haven't you? Oh, and legislating your rules into existence despite living in a country where separation of Church and State is specifically set forth in the founding documents?

Yeah, all of us non-Christians are stoopid.
Elspode • Jan 4, 2010 8:24 pm
william talked;623630 wrote:
When did "batshit crazy" become the new cliche that everyone who uses it thinks their being unique?


Since when do Right Wing Evangofascists get to decide whether or not I'm trying to be "unique"?
Spexxvet • Jan 4, 2010 8:35 pm
william talked;623547 wrote:
Who is Emma and why would she pretend that her name is William?


william talked;623626 wrote:
How smart is it to make the choice to burn in hell for all eternity?

How do you know I'm a girl? Casey is also a boys name.


Are you pretending that your name is William or Casey?
SamIam • Jan 4, 2010 8:59 pm
I think William/Casey is the many horned beast. Here, for fun visit this site. http://www.freeratio.org/index.php :p
dar512 • Jan 4, 2010 9:31 pm
william talked;623529 wrote:
That said absolutely nothing about my political beliefs. The fact is liberals and atheists are stupid people.

Don't shoot the messenger!

Right
Elspode • Jan 4, 2010 9:50 pm
I vote that we shoot the messenger, cut off it's head, and send it back to whatever psychotic fascist force that sent it with a note pinned through it's nose that reads "Please...knock it off."
classicman • Jan 4, 2010 9:58 pm
william talked;623587 wrote:
It would be nice if we knew who you're talking to.

We all know, don't you?
Elspode • Jan 4, 2010 10:16 pm
As proof that Emma is back, I submit this: It is after 9:00, even in the Midwest, and so all good little Christian minors must be safely tucked into their virgin beds, safe from all the naughty late night TV shows and the Liberal perverts that roam the streets of America with the sole purpose of corrupting her and turning her from Jeebus to do the work of the Horned One...so she's not able to post now because her NetNanny cuts her off. After all, a little bit of enforced morality goes a long way toward creating chastity, right thinking (translation: you can either choose Jeebus or refute him, and that's called "Free Will") and purity of thought.
monster • Jan 4, 2010 10:21 pm
Free Willy?
dar512 • Jan 4, 2010 10:26 pm
Elspode;623689 wrote:
As proof that Emma is back, I submit this: It is after 9:00, even in the Midwest, and so all good little Christian minors must be safely tucked into their virgin beds, safe from all the naughty late night TV shows and the Liberal perverts that roam the streets of America with the sole purpose of corrupting her and turning her from Jeebus to do the work of the Horned One...so she's not able to post now because her NetNanny cuts her off. After all, a little bit of enforced morality goes a long way toward creating chastity, right thinking (translation: you can either choose Jeebus or refute him, and that's called "Free Will") and purity of thought.

Just a reminder that some of us on this board besides William/Casey/Emma are Christian. The Christian bashing gets old.
Elspode • Jan 4, 2010 10:29 pm
You don't fall into the same category, Dar. Please don't take what I poke at her as having *anything* do with you, a Christian who apparently understands and lives their own precepts.

I apologize if what I shove at judgmental, vapid, mindless twits somehow causes you pain. From all I've been able to tell, you aren't one of the Rightist Robots. You and yours are victims of the co-opting of rational Conservatism and Christianity by the Modern Right, just like me and mine.
dar512 • Jan 4, 2010 10:39 pm
I will certainly agree that there are many people who call (and think of) themselves as Christian who don't deserve the name.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 11:01 pm
Elspode;623633 wrote:


Yeah, all of us non-Christians are stoopid.


Now that you've accepted this fact you can begin your journey of fixing it!
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 11:15 pm
Elspode;623634 wrote:
Since when do Right Wing Evangofascists get to decide whether or not I'm trying to be "unique"?


Ever since you got it in your head that Evangofascists was an actual word. Smart people will always get to judge and label the stupid. That's called survival of the fittest. That's why Christians go to heaven and smelly child molesting liberals go to hell and burn in a lake of fire... because they're weak and stupid.
Elspode • Jan 4, 2010 11:19 pm
Wow. Can I please have five dollars worth of whatever your pastor put on the host last Sunday?
lookout123 • Jan 4, 2010 11:19 pm
Trolls like Emma don't really bother me except for the fact they get otherwise reasonable people like Elspode in the mood to heap shit on Christians and write it all off with a simple, "i don't mean people like you". Tiresome.
Elspode • Jan 4, 2010 11:20 pm
You're absolutely right. I therefore quit, and shall allow Emma/whothefuckever to continue to spew uncountered lest someone who isn't an idiot become offended.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 11:21 pm
Spexxvet;623642 wrote:
Are you pretending that your name is William or Casey?


"william talked" is my username and Casey is my real name... Seriously is everyone in here on drugs besides me?
Elspode • Jan 4, 2010 11:21 pm
william talked;623716 wrote:
Ever since you got it in your head that Evangofascists was an actual word. Smart people will always get to judge and label the stupid. That's called survival of the fittest. That's why Christians go to heaven and smelly child molesting liberals go to hell and burn in a lake of fire... because they're weak and stupid.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a time when "Christian" wasn't a word? Or even a concept?
classicman • Jan 4, 2010 11:25 pm
william talked;623722 wrote:
Seriously is everyone in here on drugs besides me?

Yeh whatever - now go away.
Elspode • Jan 4, 2010 11:26 pm
william talked;623722 wrote:
"william talked" is my username and Casey is my real name... Seriously is everyone in here on drugs besides me?


Seriously, yes. Yes, we all are. Thank the Gods you've arrived just in time to save us all from ourselves.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 11:27 pm
Elspode;623689 wrote:
As proof that Emma is back, I submit this: It is after 9:00, even in the Midwest, and so all good little Christian minors must be safely tucked into their virgin beds, safe from all the naughty late night TV shows and the Liberal perverts that roam the streets of America with the sole purpose of corrupting her and turning her from Jeebus to do the work of the Horned One...so she's not able to post now because her NetNanny cuts her off. After all, a little bit of enforced morality goes a long way toward creating chastity, right thinking (translation: you can either choose Jeebus or refute him, and that's called "Free Will") and purity of thought.


It's only 8:26 in California
piercehawkeye45 • Jan 4, 2010 11:29 pm
Peyote is gooood.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 11:35 pm
dar512;623694 wrote:
Just a reminder that some of us on this board besides William/Casey/Emma are Christian. The Christian bashing gets old.


Unfortunately the payback for these heathens will be an eternal one... hells fire and brimstone! I've heard that Satan is extra cruel to forum trolls!
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 11:43 pm
lookout123;623719 wrote:
Trolls like Emma don't really bother me except for the fact they get otherwise reasonable people like Elspode in the mood to heap shit on Christians and write it all off with a simple, "i don't mean people like you". Tiresome.


Why can't I see these post from this Emma person that everyone is replying to?
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 11:48 pm
Elspode;623721 wrote:
You're absolutely right. I therefore quit, and shall allow Emma/whothefuckever to continue to spew uncountered lest someone who isn't an idiot become offended.


Now that you're going to stop being a retard when replying to this Emma person... Maybe you could stop being a retard when replying to me!
lookout123 • Jan 4, 2010 11:52 pm
Get pissy if you want but you know you'd get irritated if the cellar frequently got douchebag trolls pretending to be Pagan and a dwellar you respected started the shit slinging. It just gets old.

emma or whoever the current/next incarnation is will be banned soon. Just ignore it like you would any troll post or Radar.
william talked • Jan 4, 2010 11:53 pm
Elspode;623723 wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a time when "Christian" wasn't a word? Or even a concept?


Yes but it didn't become a word or concept just because of some retard on forum does to many drugs and has gay sex with Satan worshipers.
Elspode • Jan 5, 2010 12:17 am
lookout123;623719 wrote:
Trolls like Emma don't really bother me except for the fact they get otherwise reasonable people like Elspode in the mood to heap shit on Christians and write it all off with a simple, "i don't mean people like you". Tiresome.


Okay, I've had a moment to think about this, and now I'm going to try to respond intelligently.

I...*we*...all live in a society where the norm has become accusation, finger pointing and character assassination. We live in a society where *one side* claims to own the keys to all things Right, Good and True. This One Right Side, while doing everything humanly (and often, religiously) possible to besmirch anyone who doesn't fall into lockstep with them, also makes claims that their *spirituality* is being suppressed - that their *religious freedom* is being subdued...by "evil forces". Yes, *evil*. Not misguided. Not disagreeable. *Evil*. As in, "In league with Satan". As in, "you disagree with us and our motives, therefore you are minions of Darkness." Egad.

Meanwhile, the "other side", being equally inept and misguided, spends all it's time trying to tear down other perfectly functional standards of public legality because it might be abused or inflated by the "other side" to further restrict processes that the "other side" doesn't yet want put down.

What I, as a thinking, ostensibly free, American, don't like is this whole notion of "all or nothing". I especially dislike politics being furthered through the addition of Damnation and Hellfire as a lever. Yes, we have moral issues that need to be sorted out in this country. Yes, there are things that were better in the God-fearing 50's than they are now. There are also things that are much better now (anyone remember when it was okay to hate black people because God didn't like 'em either?).

In summary, I'd like to say that injecting (insert your religious path here) and holding it up as the be-all, end-all of Life on Earth is *never* the right answer, and as long as anyone tries to shove it down my throat and call me a moron for not swallowing it, I'm going to complain.
lookout123 • Jan 5, 2010 12:20 am
Fair enough. I'm just saying your reaction was based on something said by a troll. I'm fairly certain this twat isn't really a believer out to convert anyone. Just a troll winding up a guy who should know better.
Elspode • Jan 5, 2010 12:25 am
...and yes, I know this is just a troll, Classic, and it could have been any other nipple tweaking topic being trolled.
classicman • Jan 5, 2010 1:08 am
Wait, what the hell did I do now?
william talked • Jan 5, 2010 2:30 am
Elspode;623752 wrote:
Okay, I've had a moment to think about this, and now I'm going to try to respond intelligently.

I...*we*...all live in a society where the norm has become accusation, finger pointing and character assassination. We live in a society where *one side* claims to own the keys to all things Right, Good and True. This One Right Side, while doing everything humanly (and often, religiously) possible to besmirch anyone who doesn't fall into lockstep with them, also makes claims that their *spirituality* is being suppressed - that their *religious freedom* is being subdued...by "evil forces". Yes, *evil*. Not misguided. Not disagreeable. *Evil*. As in, "In league with Satan". As in, "you disagree with us and our motives, therefore you are minions of Darkness." Egad.

Meanwhile, the "other side", being equally inept and misguided, spends all it's time trying to tear down other perfectly functional standards of public legality because it might be abused or inflated by the "other side" to further restrict processes that the "other side" doesn't yet want put down.

What I, as a thinking, ostensibly free, American, don't like is this whole notion of "all or nothing". I especially dislike politics being furthered through the addition of Damnation and Hellfire as a lever. Yes, we have moral issues that need to be sorted out in this country. Yes, there are things that were better in the God-fearing 50's than they are now. There are also things that are much better now (anyone remember when it was okay to hate black people because God didn't like 'em either?).

In summary, I'd like to say that injecting (insert your religious path here) and holding it up as the be-all, end-all of Life on Earth is *never* the right answer, and as long as anyone tries to shove it down my throat and call me a moron for not swallowing it, I'm going to complain.


When did God ever not like black people?
william talked • Jan 5, 2010 2:36 am
lookout123;623755 wrote:
Fair enough. I'm just saying your reaction was based on something said by a troll. I'm fairly certain this twat isn't really a believer out to convert anyone. Just a troll winding up a guy who should know better.


I had a feeling this place was full of trolls... best thing to do is just ignore all the liberal non-Christians
william talked • Jan 5, 2010 2:44 am
classicman;623769 wrote:
Wait, what the hell did I do now?


You're a troll and everyone knows it!
xoxoxoBruce • Jan 5, 2010 4:07 am
I'm gobsmacked at the collective vitriol directed at william talked.
a hundred posts in 12 hours. Now I'm glad to see the family pull together, if you put that much effort into curing cancer, it'd be done.

I really don't know how you came up with william being emma, but I had to laugh at a few posts. Like saying the ban was up... it isn't, or throwing inside jokes at him that would confuse anyone. Goodness, you people are rude. :lol:
Sundae • Jan 5, 2010 6:02 am
We are rude, aren't we?
But it's kinda fun.
I occasionally want to have strong words with people who don't see things the way I do. Like when they park on pavements, or don't indicate, or stop right in front of me, or shop assistants who ignore me to chat with their mates etc etc. But I don't, apart from occasionally breaking out into tut-tuttery.

Then I come here and someone is calling me stupid and perverted and a child molester and on my way to Hell.
Yay!
NOW I can say all the things I didn't IRL :)

Meh. I overstate. But the in-jokes are funny.
So what if this newb is put off?
I don't like it, it's rude.
Pull up the ladder to the Treehouse Club, fellers.
william talked • Jan 5, 2010 10:48 am
Sundae Girl;623791 wrote:
We are rude, aren't we?
But it's kinda fun.
I occasionally want to have strong words with people who don't see things the way I do. Like when they park on pavements, or don't indicate, or stop right in front of me, or shop assistants who ignore me to chat with their mates etc etc. But I don't, apart from occasionally breaking out into tut-tuttery.

Then I come here and someone is calling me stupid and perverted and a child molester and on my way to Hell.
Yay!
NOW I can say all the things I didn't IRL :)

Meh. I overstate. But the in-jokes are funny.
So what if this newb is put off?
I don't like it, it's rude.
Pull up the ladder to the Treehouse Club, fellers.


tut-tuttery? WTF?
Stormieweather • Jan 5, 2010 11:08 am
I must say, the attitude I see displayed here by Casey or William talked or whomever is most un-Christlike.

When the missionary E. Stanley Jones met with Mahatma Gandhi, the political and spiritual leader who led India in its quest for Independence, he asked him, "Mr. Gandhi, though you quote the words of Christ often, why is that you appear to so adamantly reject becoming his follower?"

Gandhi replied, "Oh, I don’t reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It’s just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ." By Dr. John Pearrell


Maybe instead of pointing fingers, labeling, rejecting, mocking and belittling gays, liberals, and others who frighten you, a little more acceptance and genuine love for all would demonstrate an actual understanding and following of God's teachings.

For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

—Matthew 6:14-15

Then Peter came up and said to him, “Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven.

—Matthew 18:21-22


70x7...that's 490 times. Lots of forgiveness goin' on there.


for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

—Romans 3:23


You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. -Romans 2:1


So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. -John 8:7


Are you without sin then, William Talked/Casey/Emma? To go around so freely casting stones?
Urbane Guerrilla • Jan 5, 2010 11:12 am
Radar;623531 wrote:
The fact is the dumbest liberal or atheist on earth is smarter than Emma will ever be, even when she pretends her name is William.



I wouldn't be so sure of that, Mister Sixty-Three Votes of 2006. "C'était un succes." -- Cyrano de Bergerac

I've met liberals with educations. They are glib, yes, but it really seems the more liberal, the less wise.

For recent instance, yesterday's LA Times has an op-ed, "Overthrowing the overpaid," by one Moshe Adler, where the man seems completely unaware he's advocating grand theft, because he's so busy dressing it up in legalization and legalism. Apparently, he's got some problems with the Eighth Commandment, and likely the Tenth. Funny position for a Jew to be in, no? Leftwingers think they can justify banditry, apparently by the "mysterious multiplier" factor of governmental action, so despised by Libertarians. Conservatives think otherwise, and are the better for it.
Urbane Guerrilla • Jan 5, 2010 11:48 am
Elspode;623633 wrote:
Yeah, all of us non-Christians are stoopid.


Elspode, you are trying too hard -- for the extremely dubious reward of living as if there were no afterlife.

I could name a whole long list of nasties known to history who acted just like that. Picking two out of the middle, I might exhibit Bertrans de Born and Elizabeth Bathory.

Smart to reject religion and a regard for the holy? Well, I dunno. Everybody has subjects they are really dumb on. You wanna be dumb on this one? Why?
SamIam • Jan 5, 2010 11:52 am
Please, UG. Do not defend Christians or spirituality. It is a travesty.
Urbane Guerrilla • Jan 5, 2010 11:56 am
Sorry, but I'll defend whomever I like, particularly from ill-conceived attack, and most especially from the ill conceived, full stop. I do not think your request is proper.
dar512 • Jan 5, 2010 12:06 pm
We live in an older home. The guy who had the place before us was decidedly unhandy. Most of the work done to renovate the place was done by professionals -- and you can tell. Other projects, he tried to do himself -- and left things worse than if he had just left them alone.

I've been reminded of this sort of thing recently.
william talked • Jan 5, 2010 12:11 pm
Stormieweather;623859 wrote:

Are you without sin then, William Talked/Casey/Emma? To go around so freely casting stones?


I only state the facts ma'am.
Stormieweather • Jan 5, 2010 12:15 pm
Are you disputing God, then? :eek: His writings say we are all sinful beings.
SamIam • Jan 5, 2010 12:16 pm
William/Emma is a hypocrite as well as a pharisee.
dar512 • Jan 5, 2010 12:24 pm
william talked;623881 wrote:
I only state the facts ma'am.

Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

1 Peter 5:5 All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble."

Going by your posts, you don't seem to understand the basis for Christianity.
monster • Jan 5, 2010 12:58 pm
James 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain

James 4:7 Resist the devil and he will flee from you

Cellar 1:1 Resist the troll and s/he will wither and die

rAmen
william talked • Jan 5, 2010 1:01 pm
Stormieweather;623884 wrote:
Are you disputing God, then? :eek: His writings say we are all sinful beings.


Who are you talking to?
william talked • Jan 5, 2010 1:25 pm
SamIam;623885 wrote:
William/Emma is a hypocrite as well as a pharisee.


Who is William/Emma?
Sundae • Jan 5, 2010 1:33 pm
Who am I talking to now?
anonymous • Jan 5, 2010 1:33 pm
everyone that appears on this list of who has posted in this thread should punch themselves in the eye once for each post.
Sundae • Jan 5, 2010 1:35 pm
I haven't had two black eyes since the last time I ran downstairs.
I consider myself suitably chastised.
william talked • Jan 5, 2010 1:36 pm
dar512;623887 wrote:
Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

[CENTER][SIZE="6"]Amen to that![/SIZE][/CENTER]

1 Peter 5:5 All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble."

[CENTER][SIZE="6"]Hallelujah![/SIZE][/CENTER]

Going by your posts, you don't seem to understand the basis for Christianity.

Could you give me an example of that last part please? I'm sure that Jesus is very proud of all my posts.
SamIam • Jan 5, 2010 1:36 pm
william talked;623908 wrote:
Who is William/Emma?


Emma, you posted your picture in the "Post your pet thread." Just how stupid can you get? :eyebrow:
william talked • Jan 5, 2010 1:39 pm
Sundae Girl;623916 wrote:
Who am I talking to now?


Use the quote function so that we'll all know!
Sundae • Jan 5, 2010 1:39 pm
Don't tell me what to do you stupid cunt.
Spexxvet • Jan 5, 2010 1:40 pm
anonymous;623917 wrote:
everyone that appears on this list of who has posted in this thread should punch themselves in the eye once for each post.


Poor Pilau! Anonymous? I think you're Michael Vick.
william talked • Jan 5, 2010 1:50 pm
SamIam;623921 wrote:
Emma, you posted your picture in the "Post your pet thread." Just how stupid can you get? :eyebrow:


I looked in the "post your pet" thread but I couldn't tell which person is Emma. I'm curious as to what this Emma person looks like. She seems to be very popular with everyone here. I don't understand why I can't see any of her posts.
william talked • Jan 5, 2010 1:53 pm
Sundae Girl;623927 wrote:
Don't tell me what to do you stupid cunt.


Please be more specific! There are a shit load of stupid cunts on this forum and if you don't uses the quote function we won't know which stupid cunt you are talking to.
Nirvana • Jan 5, 2010 1:56 pm
[QUOTE=monster;

Cellar 1:1 Resist the troll and s/he will wither and die

rAmen[/QUOTE]

:rotflol:
lookout123 • Jan 5, 2010 2:02 pm
I've changed my mind. I don't think it is Emma. UT has created this sockpuppet to give some of you the windup. That is the kind of evil genius UT is.
william talked • Jan 6, 2010 9:39 am
lookout123;623942 wrote:
I've changed my mind. I don't think it is Emma. UT has created this sockpuppet to give some of you the windup. That is the kind of evil genius UT is.


Who is UT?