Paula Deen - A NUT

Trilby • Nov 25, 2009 7:05 pm
perusing thanksgiving day recipes I came across this:

Deep-Fried Cranberry Sauce Fritters

by Paula Deen

Deep frying cranberry sauce seems so very wrong - but, I bet it's good. I also wonder if ol' Paula is Scottish. They seem to want to fry everything, too. Where is bebop? Where is a Scottish person when you need one? typical - at the fry shop.
Dagney • Nov 25, 2009 7:07 pm
Oh, I saw her make those - they were NASTY looking! (But the audience seemed to think they were yummy!)
jinx • Nov 25, 2009 7:07 pm
I can not stand that woman.
Trilby • Nov 25, 2009 7:13 pm
jinx;612182 wrote:
I can not stand that woman.


lol. I can't,either. I can't stand any of them, really. Now that I have one clue about cooking - I can be more discriminating about who I take advice/recipes from.

I do like the barefoot contessa - I have one of her cookbooks and it's ok.

I like marcella hazan....
jinx • Nov 25, 2009 7:15 pm
I like Diners, drive-ins and dives. And Iron chef.
Cloud • Nov 25, 2009 8:10 pm
can't be any crazier than the turducken. I saw this on Paula's show, and am like WTF? I have to tell the Cellar about this.

but I searched, like a good girl, and notice it's been discussed before. But seriously--turducken WTF?
limey • Nov 25, 2009 8:21 pm
Brianna;612174 wrote:
perusing thanksgiving day recipes I came across this:

Deep-Fried Cranberry Sauce Fritters

by Paula Deen

Deep frying cranberry sauce seems so very wrong - but, I bet it's good. I also wonder if ol' Paula is Scottish. They seem to want to fry everything, too. Where is bebop? Where is a Scottish person when you need one? typical - at the fry shop.


OK. where's the recipe? I'll give it a go (not Scottish ,but living here ...)
Trilby • Nov 25, 2009 8:31 pm
sorry, limey!! here ya go - and if you make it - gotta tell us how it was!!


Ingredients
1 (13-ounce) can jelly style cranberry sauce, sliced into 1/2-inch thick rounds
2 cups all-purpose flour, divided
2 tablespoons sugar
Pinch salt
1 teaspoon baking powder
1 cup water
Oil, for frying
Directions
Lay the cranberry sauce rounds out in a single layer on a parchment paper-lined sheet pan and freeze for 4 hours or until solid.


In a shallow bowl, place one cup of the flour. In another shallow bowl combine the remaining cup of flour with the sugar, salt, and baking powder. Pour in the water and stir together until smooth. Let the batter rest for 15 minutes.

Heat the oil in a deep-fryer or large Dutch oven to 375 degrees F.

Dredge the frozen cranberry sauce rounds in the flour. Then dip rounds in the batter and gently place in the oil. Fry until golden brown, about 3 minutes. Transfer to a paper towel-lined plate to drain.

Serve and enjoy immediately.
limey • Nov 25, 2009 8:56 pm
Brianna;612281 wrote:
sorry, limey!! here ya go - and if you make it - gotta tell us how it was!!


Ingredients
1 (13-ounce) can jelly style cranberry sauce, sliced into 1/2-inch thick rounds
2 cups all-purpose flour, divided
2 tablespoons sugar
Pinch salt
1 teaspoon baking powder
1 cup water
Oil, for frying
Directions
Lay the cranberry sauce rounds out in a single layer on a parchment paper-lined sheet pan and freeze for 4 hours or until solid.


In a shallow bowl, place one cup of the flour. In another shallow bowl combine the remaining cup of flour with the sugar, salt, and baking powder. Pour in the water and stir together until smooth. Let the batter rest for 15 minutes.

Heat the oil in a deep-fryer or large Dutch oven to 375 degrees F.

Dredge the frozen cranberry sauce rounds in the flour. Then dip rounds in the batter and gently place in the oil. Fry until golden brown, about 3 minutes. Transfer to a paper towel-lined plate to drain.

Serve and enjoy immediately.


Tricky 'cos I don't have a deep-fat fryer, but I'll try to work out how to give it a go ...
Aliantha • Nov 25, 2009 9:00 pm
Sounds a lot like how you make deep fried icecream. That's yummo!

Also deep fried mars bars!
skysidhe • Nov 25, 2009 9:07 pm
She makes a great shrimp creole though, oh and a chicken pot pie.
I have found most of those meals on those shows are not simple enough for me. I find better recipes on blogspot.

Mostly I watch the Food Network Challenge and the Food Network reality star show.
Urbane Guerrilla • Nov 26, 2009 12:57 am
Cloud;612264 wrote:
can't be any crazier than the turducken. I saw this on Paula's show, and am like WTF? I have to tell the Cellar about this.

but I searched, like a good girl, and notice it's been discussed before. But seriously--turducken WTF?


A smaller scale American edition of Stuffed Camel, Cloud.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 26, 2009 1:21 am
The right way to do turducken, is to remove all the bones from the three birds. Then you can slice through it like a jellyroll, for maximun effect. That's a shitload of work, though. :sweat:
classicman • Nov 26, 2009 1:33 am
lol - too funny

http://showhype.com/video/paula-deen-hit-with-ham/"]Link[/URL]
Sundae • Nov 26, 2009 7:13 am
Cloud;612264 wrote:
can't be any crazier than the turducken. I saw this on Paula's show, and am like WTF? I have to tell the Cellar about this.

but I searched, like a good girl, and notice it's been discussed before. But seriously--turducken WTF?

We're having turducken for Christmas dinner.
The nice people at Tesco have already done all the hard work though.

I mis-spelled it in my previous post (turduckhen).
Tulip • Nov 28, 2009 1:29 am
Turducken may be WTF health-wise, but it sounds yummy to me. Me wanna try. :D
Spexxvet • Nov 28, 2009 9:13 am
I'd like to hit Paula Deen in the face with a ham!

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Never mind...
TheMercenary • Nov 28, 2009 9:50 am
We have to live with her in our face on a continual basis. People who come to Savannah flock to line up in the summer Georgia heat to eat at her place. It really is a waste of your time. Most food at a local dinner is better. It is all homestyle cooking and way over priced.
classicman • Nov 28, 2009 9:21 pm
Spexxvet;613116 wrote:
I'd like to hit Paula Deen in the face with a ham!

Never mind...


eh hem see post #14
wolf • Nov 28, 2009 10:34 pm
I'm just not that into white trash or white trash cooking.

momwolf was a big fan of the Food Network, and would sometimes end up watching Paula while waiting for some actually good show to come on.

The show where she went to England and played the Even Uglier American was a complete travesty.

And there just should not be a recipe for fudge that uses Velveeta Cheese as an ingredient.

Ick.
richlevy • Nov 28, 2009 11:02 pm
xoxoxoBruce;612457 wrote:
The right way to do turducken, is to remove all the bones from the three birds. Then you can slice through it like a jellyroll, for maximun effect. That's a shitload of work, though. :sweat:
Don't forget a layer of stuffing between each bird and inside the last one. Extra points if you use three different kinds of stuffing.

A friend made this for Christmas dinner a year or two ago. The meat was very good. My only issue is that I like crispy skin which didn't happen on the 'underbirds'.

I just guessing, but I wouldn't be suprised to find 'deep fried turducken' out there.
Sundae • Nov 29, 2009 11:21 am
wolf;613304 wrote:
The show where she went to England and played the Even Uglier American was a complete travesty.

Damn. Couldn't find that on YouTube :(
TheMercenary • Nov 29, 2009 11:36 am
richlevy;613317 wrote:
I just guessing, but I wouldn't be suprised to find 'deep fried turducken' out there.

I may need to try that for X-mas.
xoxoxoBruce • Nov 30, 2009 4:17 am
richlevy;613317 wrote:

I just guessing, but I wouldn't be suprised to find 'deep fried turducken' out there.
I read that's a no-no. Deep fried birds work, because the oil is also cooking from the inside. A Turducken is basicly solid and would be underdone, unless you fucked up the outside.

Here ya go.;)
richlevy • Nov 30, 2009 9:52 pm
jinx;612182 wrote:
I can not stand that woman.
Sorry. Too late. Your Cellar Santa has already sent you Paula Deen: Season 1.:D
Urbane Guerrilla • Dec 1, 2009 3:02 am
xoxoxoBruce;613611 wrote:
I read that's a no-no. Deep fried birds work, because the oil is also cooking from the inside. A Turducken is basicly solid and would be underdone, unless you fucked up the outside.

Here ya go.;)


Bone and deep-fry your birds, cool, then stuff and bake all together to warm it up again. You'd likely want moist heat, a tight-covered roaster, or cooking in parchment.
Lamplighter • Jun 27, 2013 9:44 am
Hypocrisy abounds ...

Paula Deen
I've Used the N-Word
... But I'm NOT Racist


When Paula Deen was asked, under oath, if she has ever used the N-word
-- she responded, "Yes, of course" ... and the shocking admission was all captured on tape.

Deen was being deposed in connection with a pending sexual harassment lawsuit
filed by a former employee who claims she was subjected to a barrage of racist,
sexist and generally inappropriate comments while she worked at
Paula's Oyster House restaurant in Georgia.
<snip>

[QUOTE]Lawyer: Have you ever used the N-word yourself?
Paula: Yes, of course.
Lawyer: Okay. In what context?
Paula: Well, it was probably when a black man burst into the bank
that I was working at and put a gun to my head.
Sidenote -- Paula was held up at gunpoint during a bank robbery in 1986.

Lawyer: Okay. And what did you say?
Paula: Well, I don't remember, but the gun was dancing all around my temple ...
I didn't -- I didn't feel real favorable towards him.
Lawyer: Okay. Well, did you use the N-word to him as he pointed a gun in your head at your face?
Paula: Absolutely not.

Lawyer: Well, then, when did you use it?
Paula: Probably in telling my husband.
Lawyer: Okay. Have you used it since then?
Paula: I'm sure I have, but it's been a very long time.

Lawyer: Can you remember the context in which you have used the N-word?
Paula: No.
Lawyer: Has it occurred with sufficient frequency that you cannot
recall all of the various context in which you've used it?
Paula: No, no.

Lawyer: Well, then tell me the other context in which you've used the N-word?
Paula: I don't know, maybe in repeating something that was said to me.
Lawyer: Like a joke?
Paula: No, probably a conversation between blacks. I don't -- I don't know.

But that's just not a word that we use as time has gone on.
Things have changed since the '60s in the south.
And my children and my brother object to that word
being used in any cruel or mean behavior.
As well as I do.
[/QUOTE]

So what is the answer to any lawyer's question that begins with...
"Have you ever used the word ... ? "

Mark Furman tried this but it didn't work: " No, never "
Richard Nixon tried this, but it didn't work: " I don't remember "

Maybe Paul should have tried ...
[YOUTUBE]x25l4sIJ3bg[/YOUTUBE]
glatt • Jun 27, 2013 9:52 am
I've never used the N word to refer to anyone, and I don't think I'm racist, but when I was a kid, I repeated that word and got in trouble for it.

In a deposition, I would have to admit that I used it long ago but that I don't use it any more, and I don't think I'm racist. Which is almost verbatim what Deen has said.

I don't care for this woman, and she may be racist, or she might not. But I think she's getting unjustly crucified by a bored press.

It's absolutely ridiculous that the press is bored. There is so much news of substance happening in the world right now.
zippyt • Jun 27, 2013 11:36 am
She's an old white lady from the deep south , of corse she has said nigger , Duuuuhhh !
Perry Winkle • Jun 27, 2013 11:39 am
When I was in 2nd or 3rd grade the kids in the neighborhood taught me a "game" called "N***** Knocking". You know, knocking on doors and running away.

I had no idea what the N word meant. I just thought it was the name of the game. It was a short-lived game we only played a couple of times and I quickly forgot about it.

It wasn't until I was in my early 20's that I made the connection and was very ashamed. But really, can you really blame a child using a word without knowledge of the meaning and context of the word.

I would not consider myself rascist, though I have used the word a quite a few times. Even somewhat recently when quoting people and in discussion about the word itself and the cultural baggage attached.
BigV • Jun 27, 2013 11:45 am
I agree with both of y'all.

I'm curious about actions more than words. There can be empty words, but if they're matched with similar actions, then there's likely a cause for concern (action).

Deen was being deposed in connection with a pending sexual harassment lawsuit filed by a former employee who claims she was subjected to a barrage of racist, sexist and generally inappropriate comments while she worked at Paula's Oyster House restaurant in Georgia.


In this context, I think such questions are appropriate. They're not sufficient, but they are pertinent.
Happy Monkey • Jun 27, 2013 11:52 am
I have more of an issue with her idea of a "plantation style wedding" than any use of any particular word.
Sundae • Jun 28, 2013 5:20 am
I worked with a man who would use very inappropriate language about our gay colleague. Behind his back.
Gay colleague was supercilious, snide and quite unpleasant.
Person using the inappropriate language was funny, open-minded and was BFF with a gay all the way through Uni (they lost contact he he moved away from Brighton, not because of any other disagreement).
He was not homophobic.

But had he ever been in court and it was called into question, he would have been judged by his words, not his attitude or behaviour.

I must remember this.
I secretly roll my eyes at many things Mum says. They speak of embedded attitudes ("Well, we do have one Asian family living nearby, but they don't really cause any trouble.")
But her actions and behaviour show differently.
She was so touched at how they responded to Grandad's death. She appreciated the fact that Mr H read her some verses from the Koran, in the same way an atheist like me would appreciate a true Christian reading reading a relevant passage from the Bible - if it is intended to comfort then it's the thought that counts.

They put a card through the door every Christmas, she puts one through their door at Eid.

Sorry, a bit off topic.
No idea who this woman is and whether she's racist or not.
But I do get a little stab in the throat when Bri's name comes up on my screen.
chrisinhouston • Jun 28, 2013 10:02 am
Funny but I was about 10 or 11 when we moved from New York to Atlanta, Georgia in 1967 and not long afterwards Martin Luther King was shot. I recall a teacher bringing up a topic about the then governor, Lester Maddox who was an avowed segregationist refusing to attend King's funeral. The teacher let students discuss if this was right or not. I recall one boy defending the decision with, "a white man don't go to a nigger's funeral!"

I think her use of the word as explained in the deposition is pretty overblown as it was not recently and like it or not that was a part of the deep south. Now, the stupid idea for the wedding for her brother with old black men serving all the white guests was and is telling.

This opinion piece hits the nail on the head, it points out that Paula Deen's Andy Warhol moment lasted long enough and her dismissal from her TV show and connections to products and companies is not so much because of the fall out from her deposition but that her butter slathered star has faded.

http://blogs.ajc.com/food-and-more/2013/06/26/paula-deen-the-message-and-the-market/
Lamplighter • Jun 28, 2013 10:23 am
I think her use of the word as explained in the deposition is pretty overblown
as it was not recently and like it or not that was a part of the deep south.
Now, the stupid idea for the wedding for her brother with old black men serving
all the white guests was and is telling.


Thank you, Chris. Well said.
BigV • Jun 28, 2013 11:36 am
Sundae;868948 wrote:
I worked with a man who would use very inappropriate language about our gay colleague. Behind his back.
Gay colleague was supercilious, snide and quite unpleasant.
Person using the inappropriate language was funny, open-minded and was BFF with a gay all the way through Uni (they lost contact he he moved away from Brighton, not because of any other disagreement).
He was not homophobic.

--snip


I have a problem with this kind of behavior, one face to the world, a different face to the friends. Was the "very inappropriate language" about the gay colleague about the colleague's sexuality? Your post makes it sound that way. So, your co-worker was not homophobic, didn't like a gay colleague, and expressed that dislike by calling names; not about the colleague's actual unpleasant qualities. What is the purpose of such complaints? Maybe he was a king joker, a clown who made jokes about all kinds of people. But mostly this kind of disconnect makes me suspicious. I don't like it.
Sundae • Jun 28, 2013 12:51 pm
V, his issue with the colleague was not based on his sexuality.
He used terms that other people used in conversation. And had he used them in general conversation I would not have engaged with him.

All I can think to compare him to is Frankie Boyle, but I have no idea if his humour has even made it to the States, let alone translates.

M did not talk about T casually using those terms.
Only when relating particular incidents. So he might say, "Blah blah blah and then T went straight in to see [boss] and blah blah blah. Crawly little shit-stabber."
It's a ref to his proclivities, but it's also an attempt to say something nasty.

Maybe he was wrong.
I did listen with my hand over my open mouth and say, "You can't say that!"
So I dunno.
I've used the c word about other women before. I've also talked about hitting other women. I wouldn't get into fisticuffs because I am terrified by confrontation, let alone physical violence. But I can talk up a good bitch-front. I think the trash talk I heard from M was the same.
classicman • Jun 30, 2013 11:50 pm
glatt;868885 wrote:
But I think she's getting unjustly crucified by a bored press.
It's absolutely ridiculous that the press is bored. There is so much news of substance happening in the world right now.


I don't think they are bored at all. I think they are looking for something, ANYTHING other than the substantive issues currently happening.