Something Freaky...

Trilby • Nov 25, 2009 6:52 pm
...is happening to America's fish!

the males are taking on the characteristics of females!

Why?

It may tell us something alarming about our water!

More than 70% of males in some river in WI (small mouth bass) are showing female characteristics!

chemicals in the water - like birth control pills - are to blame!

Makes you wonder what else this super-freaky female water is doing?!

sorry - just channelling the news....
Aliantha • Nov 25, 2009 6:56 pm
Many fish are hemaphroditic as we know, and sometimes the sex is determined by the temp of the water. Maybe that's it?
DanaC • Nov 25, 2009 6:57 pm
Don't plastics contain oestrogen? Or is that an urban myth?
Trilby • Nov 25, 2009 6:59 pm
you mean this is NOT a sign of the apocalypse? damn.
DanaC • Nov 25, 2009 7:02 pm
You want the apocalypse?
Aliantha • Nov 25, 2009 7:04 pm
DanaC;612161 wrote:
Don't plastics contain oestrogen? Or is that an urban myth?


I don't know, but a NZ researcher has recently published an article about facial cleansers being dangerous to the aquatic environment. Apparently the 'micro-beads' they use these days are plastic as opposed to traditionally being apricot husks etc. So anyway, little teeny tiny fishies (krill etc) are gobbling them up and apprently it's no so good for them.

Sounded like a bit of BS to me in that the impact is likely to be marginal, however it was interesting to know that even those sorts of things can have an effect on our environment.

As I said to Dazza, it doesn't make much difference to my way of life, but I'll try not to choose those types of cleansers although I usually use organic stuff because my skin is pretty sensitive to begin with.
DanaC • Nov 25, 2009 7:15 pm
We have had a real problem in the Uk with fish in some stretches of river. I think one of the reasons put forward was it might have been plastics getting into the water and increasing the oestrogen levels thus having an impact on gender levels and increasing hermaphroditism.

But that might just have been tv-science. And it was several years ago, so I am hazy on detail.
Griff • Nov 25, 2009 7:20 pm
DanaC;612161 wrote:
Don't plastics contain oestrogen? Or is that an urban myth?


Apparently there are chemicals in some plastics that mimic estrogen.
DanaC • Nov 25, 2009 7:27 pm
ahhh. Ok, thanks.
casimendocina • Nov 25, 2009 9:08 pm
Not sure if this is the place for this or if this has been said before (get the disclaimer in first)...but I've heard (from a CSIRO scientist) that apparently the Western world is slowly sterilising itself by taking oral contraceptives which end up back in the water.
Starring_Emma • Nov 25, 2009 9:15 pm
Brianna;612154 wrote:


More than 70% of males in some river in WI (small mouth bass) are showing female characteristics!



[CENTER][SIZE="6"]OMG... The same think is happening to liberal men![/SIZE][/CENTER]
Starring_Emma • Nov 25, 2009 9:18 pm
Aliantha;612159 wrote:
Many fish are hemaphroditic as we know, and sometimes the sex is determined by the temp of the water. Maybe that's it?


I think that the fish are getting their news from CNN and watching Micheal Moore movies.
Aliantha • Nov 25, 2009 9:19 pm
casimendocina;612303 wrote:
Not sure if this is the place for this or if this has been said before (get the disclaimer in first)...but I've heard (from a CSIRO scientist) that apparently the Western world is slowly sterilising itself by taking oral contraceptives which end up back in the water.


Well depending on your point of view this could be viewed as a good thing.
Clodfobble • Nov 25, 2009 10:57 pm
casimendocina wrote:
Not sure if this is the place for this or if this has been said before (get the disclaimer in first)...but I've heard (from a CSIRO scientist) that apparently the Western world is slowly sterilising itself by taking oral contraceptives which end up back in the water.


Children of Men. If you've never seen it, do so. An amazing movie.