Nov 23, 2009: Recortadores

Running with the bulls is foolhardy, fighting the bulls is even more so, but these bull jumpers are just crazy. :haha:

Flying through the air these amazing bull leapers compete in the ultimate game of chance. Displaying flips, leaps and jumps these modern day Spanish 'Recortadores' continue a bull leaping tradition that goes back to the legendary King Minos from Crete's Minoan civilisation around 1500 BC. Each year, bull fighting teams from all over Spain descend upon the Plaza de Toros stadium in Valencia to battle in this daring competition.

With as many as three bulls in the ring at any one time, each 'Recortadores' team - made up of between 5 and 7 members - go head-to-head in a dangerous and skilful performance which can last up to four hours.

Three bulls running around in the ring at the same time? Sounds like a triple threat I'd want no part of. :headshake

link

I'll pass, too Bruce. I don't even think I'd enjoy watching it. I've always wondered why the animal rights activists tend to ignore these bull related activities. Not that I think they should raise hell about it. Just sayin.

capnhowdy;610842 wrote:

I've always wondered why the animal rights activists tend to ignore these bull related activities..

They don't ignore it.

Takes 10 seconds to find it:
http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=64

That's just PETA. I've heard opposition to it for years.

load of bull.






bbq please.

capnhowdy;610842 wrote:

I'll pass, too Bruce. I don't even think I'd enjoy watching it. I've always wondered why the animal rights activists tend to ignore these bull related activities. Not that I think they should raise hell about it. Just sayin.

According to what I've read, the bulls are not hurt in Recortadores.

Pie;610864 wrote:

According to what I've read, the bulls are not hurt in Recortadores.

Just vverrrrryyyy frustrated!!!
:banghead:

The only good thing about these kinds of 'sports' is when the bull gets a good one in and impale or gore some dumbass. Darwinism at its finest. Best when vital organs are pierced.

morethanpretty;610846 wrote:

That's just PETA. I've heard opposition to it for years.

Sure, PETA's a given.

Unlike bullfighting, at least the bulls have an even shot in this game.

I know they're against it. (I found it in 5 seconds), but they don't seem to raise as much hell about it as they do other things. That was my point. I think the reason is that the Spaniards tell them quickly where they can shove it. I got quite a chuckle at some of their posts at the bottom of the link page. They basically tell folks if you can't handle these types of events, just stay the hell out of Spain LOL.

I guess you pay less attention that I do. I've heard of big outcries against bullfighting. I agree that it is cruelty. Are you for dog fighting and chicken fighting? Do you think that should be legal here in the US?
If you do, then I know why you think its ridiculous to be against bullfighting. If you don't, then there is no reason why you should support it.

(I am not speaking about the recortadores - i would consider it kinda mean, but its not on the same level as cruel.)

Shawnee123;610894 wrote:

The only good thing about these kinds of 'sports' is when the bull gets a good one in and impale or gore some dumbass. Darwinism at its finest. Best when vital organs are pierced.

Same thought was running through my mind...


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What is 3579?

I find the word, "recortador" interesting in this context. I think it means "well cut" or "a well cut person."

If they're doing it right (by clearing the horns), they wouldn't be cut at all.

I was going to just look and listen, but followed the PETA link which discusses only traditional bullfighting, OT really.
Then I figured these bulls may be the same ones later killed.
But best, I found a Spanish Wikipedia artcle which in English translation provides this great definition of Trimming: "Dribble the bull by the andarle face and avoid the fuck."
I should think so.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recortador&ei=OSQLS-bCCYrYsQOE5I1L&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CBkQ7gEwBTgK&prev=/search%3Fq%3Drecortador%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26start%3D10

I have no problem with bull jumping, rodeo riding or Portugese style bull fighting where the bull is not killed, becaue the main risk is to the human.
I do object to Spanish style bull fighting where the bull is slowly and painfully killed.

Cloud;611067 wrote:

I find the word, "recortador" interesting in this context. I think it means "well cut" or "a well cut person."

If they're doing it right (by clearing the horns), they wouldn't be cut at all.

You have to be circumsized...

Cloud wrote:

I find the word, "recortador" interesting in this context. I think it means "well cut" or "a well cut person."

If they're doing it right (by clearing the horns), they wouldn't be cut at all.

-ador means "one who [does]" rather than "one who [is]," so it's "one who trims," or "a trimmer." I suspect it's roughly something akin to our expression of "cutting it close."

I love it when The Cellar posts things related to what I'm studying in school.

Apparently the ancient Minoans did it too:

http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Arts/MinoanBullJump.htm

no one reads Mary Renault anymore?

Pie;610864 wrote:

According to what I've read, the bulls are not hurt in Recortadores.

It doesn't matter. Unless we're letting animals just go around doing whatever animals do, without exploitation or interference, those folks are going to be protesting. Think of cows in New Delhi.

Gives a whole new meaning to Beef Kabob.

'Hot Beef Injection' means something else...

Shawnee123;611059 wrote:

What is 3579?

My post count at that time.

He'd better be careful, or that bull will win with a hole in Juan.

Saknussem;611289 wrote:

He'd better be careful, or that bull will win with a hole in Juan.

:thumb2:

My wife agrees with Clobfobble and Cloud on the translation. It doesn't really translate as it refers to the people specifically doing this activity.

She also had a few other choice words. Idiota, pendejo, and a few unprintable others.

Saknussem;611289 wrote:

He'd better be careful, or that bull will win with a hole in Juan.

Juan won one!

Have you ever seen cowboy poker?

ETA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtJohKREv2E

Thanks for the reminder Zen.

I think these two are better!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOIyo-h6qys&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PG1RTK5vr4&feature=related

The first game I ever saw had 8 guys at a table and they were actually playing cards. The cards really made it special. They went everywhere on impact like a giant exclamation point!

I'd love to see Chicken On A Chain or Code Blue going all in.