Poor, Pitiful Palin
PALIN: Says she made frugality a point when traveling on state business as Alaska governor, asking "only" for reasonably priced rooms and not "often" going for the "high-end, robe-and-slippers" hotels.
THE FACTS: Although travel records indicate she usually opted for less-pricey hotels while governor, Palin and daughter Bristol stayed five days and four nights at the $707.29-per-night Essex House luxury hotel (robes and slippers come standard) overlooking New York City's Central Park for a five-hour women's leadership conference in October 2007. With air fare, the cost to Alaska was well over $3,000. Event organizers said Palin asked if she could bring her daughter. The governor billed her state more than $20,000 for her children's travel, including to events where they had not been invited, and in some cases later amended expense reports to specify that they had been on official business.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091114/ap_on_el_pr/us_palin_book_fact_check;_ylt=ApV2J.6G6CMjEiQvx5CYFsTgtY54
Palin’s book appears to be attempting to re-write history. Yet even the dumbest high school kid knows that history is written by the winners, not by the losers. It gets even worse when you are a loser who is writing self-aggrandizing propaganda and expecting us all to swallow it whole. Anyone around here have some antacid?
:headshake
She is dumb as a rock when it comes to politics on the national level. Will Tums work for ya?
She is dumb as a rock when it comes to politics on the national level.
Yet, many within the Republican social conservative base just love her!
I guess that makes them "dumb as a rock" as well.
Republican social consevatives are dumb as rocks? :eek: I would like to protest this slander on the behalf of rocks everywhere. RSC's are more closely akin to simple single celled organisms such as blue-green algae. Algal blooms can kill pets and even people. It is an example of a once benign organism gone haywire. Sign of the end times no. 983 - blue green algae take over the earth.
Go here if you want to worry about something today:
http://www.pca.state.mn.us/water/clmp-toxicalgae.htmlI protest that post on behalf of anything on earth colored blue-green.
Yet, many within the Republican social conservative base just love her!
It's not just them, I think that a lot of people are so overwhelmed and disgusted with politics/politicians, they're attracted to her as someone they can identify with. Those people don't see her as being ineffectual in national/international politics, because of their own naivety in those areas.
I don't know anything about bugs or poisons, so I hired that exterminator because he's got a cool truck with a big bug on top. :haha:
I think that's true. Some see her as a straight-shooter, one of "us" the way Joe the Plumber was thought of by some.
Of course, I don't see her that way.
Yet, many within the Republican social conservative base just love her!
A few weeks ago I met someone who aspired to be the senator of Alaska and he thinks something big is going to happen with Sarah Palin. She will be able to rally her base whether she is running for office or not and depending how the next few years go, it may have some strong effects. From my opinion, it is one of the best short-term strategies the Republicans can have since she will have two to four years to practice speeches and interviews and show how much she has grown.
On the other hand, I think this is a very foolish long-term strategy. The demographics of the United States are changing quickly and if the Republicans want to have a chance in twenty years, they have to change their stance to socially liberal. Palin may be effective in the next decade but the Republicans need to start looking for young fiscally conservative socially liberal Republicans to build up or they will be in trouble in twenty to thirty years. It will probably happen naturally but the more they push Palin, and others like her, the more trouble they will have in the future.
It's not just them, I think that a lot of people are so overwhelmed and disgusted with politics/politicians, they're attracted to her as someone they can identify with. Those people don't see her as being ineffectual in national/international politics, because of their own naivety in those areas.
Also people that don't like her speaking style and analogies probably would never vote her anyways so she doesn't have to take them into account. It will be interesting to see if she has changed for 2012 at all.
I've gotten very tired on trying to figure out what it is about Palin that would make ANYONE think she has what it takes to run ANYTHING.
From now on, all I have to say is "Sarah Palin...what a cunt!"
Amen, Shel. The woman hasn't one redeeming quality.
But, but, but, she's a hockey-mom. :rolleyes:
But she kills mooses .... and probably squirrels.
And she can see Fearless Leader, from her house.
I heard on NPR today that she might be thinking as far out as 2020. Maybe she'l look better in 10 years than she does now. I kind of doubt it though. In my experience age does not burnish character so much as it enhances what ever eccentricities that were there to begin with. At any rate, I can't imagine ever voting for her. She's cute on the talk radio circuit though. :rolleyes:
Oh, and I wish her daughter's baby daddy's 15 minutes would end soon. That kid is a puke!
Oh, and I wish her daughter's baby daddy's 15 minutes would end soon. That kid is a puke!
But Joanie [strike]
loves[/strike]
loved Chachi!:lovers::doit::sadsperm:
Nice taste in men. Does he remind her of her dad? (I know, she's young and probably didn't realize what an ass he was, but man he is a Grade A Asshat!)
I wonder how much truth there is in this?
AP Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
"Imagine that," the post read. "11 AP reporters dedicating time and resources to tearing up the book, instead of using the time and resources to 'fact check' what's going on with Sheik Mohammed's trial, Pelosi's health care takeover costs, Hasan's associations, etc. Amazing."
AP spokesman Paul Colford said the organization, with more than 4,000 employees, and 49 Pulitzer Prizes earned for asking the hard questions, has the luxury of putting multiple reporters on major stories. He confirmed 11 people worked on the story, but not all full-time. He refused to say, however, if similar number of journalists were assigned to review other political books, or if Palin has been treated differently.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/17/ap-turns-heads-devoting-reporters-palin-book-fact-check/Consider the source. I'm always skeptical of Faux. :eyebrow:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/17/ap-turns-heads-devoting-reporters-palin-book-fact-check/
Of course before they could run the story, Fox News had to call in an expert to explain this concept of 'fact checking' to them.:cool:
Of course before they could run the story, Fox News had to call in an expert to explain this concept of 'fact checking' to them.:cool:
You mean like FOX news today showing a "crowd shot" and inferring that it was at a book signing when it fact it was from a campaign even last year?
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From what I've seen on the net, those 11 AP reporters would be kept busy just answering the phone calls and emails, from former campaign staffers working for McCain and the Democrats, wanting to tell their side.
You mean like FOX news today showing a "crowd shot" and inferring that it was at a book signing when it fact it was from a campaign even last year?
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Wow. Frickin' Fox.
People, please. That's merely an anchor making a mistake about B-roll footage. It happens all the time.
There are several media-watching outlets on both sides, that monitor news 24x7, and breathlessly feature every single thing that could be interpreted as bias. They have a lot of source to work with and they re-tube everything.
They know it's an anchor making a mistake about B-roll footage, too. (No serious newshound could not understand.) They love it when you get all breathless over stuff like this, because it excites them to be a part of the professional wrestling side of politics. Too bad it's all fake.
People, please. That's merely an anchor making a mistake about B-roll footage. It happens all the time.
There are several media-watching outlets on both sides, that monitor news 24x7, and breathlessly feature every single thing that could be interpreted as bias. They have a lot of source to work with and they re-tube everything.
They know it's an anchor making a mistake about B-roll footage, too. (No serious newshound could not understand.) They love it when you get all breathless over stuff like this, because it excites them to be a part of the professional wrestling side of politics. Too bad it's all fake.
When the anchor says "These are some of the photos coming into us..." there is an intent to misrepresent. Other networks used real time videos at a mall book store...with relatively long lines and respectable crowds, but not screaming with enthusiasm for Sarah. FOX chose to misrepresent the video.
This was much like Hannity did recently with the rallly at the Capitol opposing health care reform....using video from an old rally with the intent to demonstrate inflated numbers. Its one thing to use stock footage of the Capitol when reporting a story about the Capitol. It is another to use footage with the intent to misrepresent the news.
They all do it? You have some examples from CNN, MSNBC?
Do they all misrepresent Rs as Ds when reporting on members of Congress involved in sex scandals? Unintentional mistakes by low level staffers?
Yes, they all do it. It happens all the time.
If you didn't know, I'm the Cellar's appointed cable news viewer, and although I don't do it any longer (preferring internet news sites), for several years I watched a good 10 hours/day, 7 days/week of all three cable news networks.
They all make these kinds of mistakes because it is very difficult to put together this amount of live news. It's tons of airtime to fill, and not enough good people to do it properly.
The silly thing is, it's much easier to spot real bias in the news, rather than these "gotcha" mistakes, but it's harder to build a narrative around that bias. If Think Progress examined which stories Fox covered, and how they covered them, it would be far more damning for serious thinkers... but far less damning for folks with low attention spans for it, who prefer that knee-jerking OMG FOUL BLOOD SPILLED REF KNOCKED OUT style. Folks like yourself!
Do they all misrepresent Rs as Ds when reporting on members of Congress involved in sex scandals? Unintentional mistakes by low level staffers?
They all display much, much more serious bias than merely getting the letter wrong. Getting the letter wrong is paper-thin fluff compared to what else goes on.
If you didn't know, I'm the Cellar's appointed cable news viewer, and although I don't do it any longer (preferring internet news sites)....
I like internet news sites as well....many are always good for a laugh.
Most recently on Newsmax:
Palin-Beck Ticket? Sarah Doesn't Rule it Out
"I can envision a couple of different combinations, if ever I were to be in a position to really even seriously consider running for anything in the future, and I'm not there yet," Palin tells Newsmax. "But Glenn Beck I have great respect for. He's a hoot. He gets his message across in such a clever way. And he's so bold — I have to respect that. He calls it like he sees it, and he's very, very, very effective."
The Dream Team..........for Democrats!
Here's what the righty version of Think Progress and Media Matters would say, if you want an example of 10-second excerpting of media bias.
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But it doesn't really tell you anything.
Are you having trouble keeping up with Sarah? What is it about Sarah, what makes her tick? Do you want to know all of these things, but don't think you'll be able to schedule in a reading of her book?
Worry no more! Slate has compiled
an index for Going Rogue so that you may find answers to the questions you are asking.
A sampling:
prayers
__answered
boyfriend, 33
job for Todd with British Petroleum, 50
__not answered
winning debate with Joe Biden, 295
winning 2008 election, 333
pregnancy
__descriptions of
"I porked up," 50
"ready to calve," 51
"more nauseated than usual," 171
"starving for king crab and scallops," 192
feeling contractions during Texas speech, 194
__reaction to own
"Holy geez!" 171
__reaction to Bristol's
"Truthfully, I was devastated," 207
campaign's advance knowledge of, 214
campaign's botched handling of, 234
science, inadequacy of to explain existence, 47
sentence, actual
"As the soles of my shoes hit the soft ground, I pushed past the tall cottonwood trees in a euphoric cadence, and meandered through willow branches that the moose munched on," 102
upbringing, hardscrabbleness of,
sewed own clothes, 16
baked own bread, 17
stacked own firewood, 17
unheated, unfurnished family room, 26
didn't ask for money from parents, 32
terrorists
Obama palling around with, 306
regret over inability to talk more about, 307I wonder how much truth there is in this?
AP Turns Heads for Devoting 11 Reporters to Palin Book 'Fact Check'
"Imagine that," the post read. "11 AP reporters dedicating time and resources to tearing up the book, instead of using the time and resources to 'fact check' what's going on with Sheik Mohammed's trial, Pelosi's health care takeover costs, Hasan's associations, etc. Amazing."
It's all about what people will watch/read, which generates income. It's a shame that people will pay more attention to showing what a train wreck Palin is. In the same way, it's a shame that her book is so popular.
I care as much about her as I do every other Gov. of Alaska whom I can't name and couldn't bother to waste a brain cell trying to remember.
D's keep bringing her up as a distraction and the extreme R's are trying to keep her in the media as something viable in the future.
She is a waste of space, time and money.
It's not a shame at all -it's recycling through re-use. she's all done as a politician so now let's use her as a source of entertainement. When she ceases to be amusing, we can watch in happy horror as the train wrech reaches it's inevitable conclusion and then we can use her to reignite the "why do we love to build them up and then enjoy their downfall" and "it's all the fault of the media" debates.
~snip~use her to reignite the "why do we love to build them up and then enjoy their downfall" and "it's all the fault of the media" debates.
Sarah does a bit of media blaming herself. :p
media
--getting things wrong, 203, 233, 237, 238, 276, 342, 378
--getting things right, 246
--liberalness of, 270
:lol: I may have to read this book, if I can stomach it, just for some laughs.
(I won't buy it though...strictly a library thing.)
...(I won't buy it though...strictly a library thing.)
Kind of ironic that her book will be in libraries even though she's never been in one.
:D
Kind of ironic that her book will be in libraries even though she's never been in one.
:D
I'll bet she's recommended burning or banning some library books, though.
Funny you should mention that. This is from when Palin was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska. From Wikepedia
Wasilla librarian Mary Ellen Emmons strongly objected to remarks by Palin that Emmons characterized as being about censorship. Emmons said that Palin asked two or three times in October 1996 if she would object to books being removed from the library. Palin has said the question was "rhetorical".
:eyebrow:
We worked that issue at the time and found nothing there. Here's the deal:
When Palin was first announced, there was a media fishing [strike]expedition[/strike]frenzy that moved to Wasilla for about three weeks, looking for garbage. They interviewed her political enemies. The library story was one of the things they came back with. It was a non-story, as no books were banned and nobody lost their job.
The non-story was widely played presenting Palin as a book-burner and unreasonable mayor. This information was somehow coupled with a bureaucratic approach where all city officials are fired and re-hired, and many people repeated the notion that the librarian refused to ban the books and was fired.
Why are liberals so afraid of her? Because she wrote a book?
Why are liberals so afraid of her? Because she wrote a book?
It is quite the contrary.
I cant speak for all liberals, but I LOVE the character known as Sarah Palin. She brings a smile to my face every time I see her on the news or hear her speak.
It is a wildly entertaining show, knowing that she is the most visible and popular (and unpopular at the same time) Republican on the national scene.
It is the Republican establishment that is afraid that she wont go away.
Why are liberals so afraid of her? Because she wrote a book?
Speaking for myself, I'm amazed and horrified that Bush 2 ever made it to the White House, and was reelected. If somebody like him is able to make it into the White House, then somebody like Palin can absolutely make it there too. I don't think she has the the right qualities to hold any position of authority, but she came fairly close to the most important position in the free world, and it's possible she will again.
Why are liberals so afraid of her? Because she wrote a book?
Not afraid of "her". She would make a poor leader, and we're afraid stupid people will elect her.
Liberals love her as a punching bag.
After her departure from Alaska, we can dismiss any possibility that she would be on a national ticket. She is a highly divisive figure, either deeply loved or deeply hated; and furthermore she will remain a generally poor candidate, not cut out for a national campaign. This is now a cash run.
Speaking for myself, I'm amazed and horrified that Bush 2 ever made it to the White House, and was reelected. If somebody like him is able to make it into the White House, then somebody like Palin can absolutely make it there too. I don't think she has the the right qualities to hold any position of authority, but she came fairly close to the most important position in the free world, and it's possible she will again.
I agree with every thing except the thought that, " she came fairly close to the most important position in the free world." She never had a chance. But I have enjoyed all the frothing by the left as her new book has come out. It is like Kabuki Theater. :lol:
Liberals aren't afraid of her. They love her as a punching bag.
If they would ignore her she would be more marginalized. IMHO, the more attention they give her the more hard core right wings flock to her just to piss off the left. I think she may have a chance to get into the senate or house but that is about it.
...
After her departure from Alaska, we can dismiss any possibility that she would be on a national ticket. She is a highly divisive figure, either deeply loved or deeply hated; and furthermore she will remain a generally poor candidate, not cut out for a national campaign. This is now a cash run.
I agree it is highly unlikely but not impossible.
With the way that Republican primaries are structured in many states -- winner take all the delegates (as opposed to the Democratic primaries with proportional delegates) --and with the right advisors and a shit-load of money (she is currently the best fund raiser for Republicans), she could win in some front end states with 30something% in a field of 4-5 primary candidates, build momentum and roll, baby roll to the convention!
I agree it is highly unlikely but not impossible.
With the way that Republican primaries are structured in many states -- winner take all the delegates (as opposed to the Democratic primaries with proportional delegates) --and with the right advisors and a shit-load of money (she is currently the best fund raiser for Republicans), she could win in some front end states with 30something% in a field of 4-5 primary candidates, build momentum and roll, baby roll to the convention!
It would never happen, no matter how much you would love it.
Liberals love her - she's worth millions of votes . . . for them.
It would never happen, no matter how much you would love it.
I bet between now and 2012, we will see the Republican leaders urge the state parties to change to a proportional voting system for the primaries to prevent even the remotest possibility of such an outcome.
I bet between now and 2012, we will see the Republican leaders urge the state parties to change to a proportional voting system for the primaries to prevent even the remotest possibility of such an outcome.
Why?
Why?
Simple...because proportional allocation of delegates prevents any one candidate, like a Palin or a Tea-Bagger, with the most and energized active base, winning all the delegates from states with only a plurality, but not a majority, of support from within their own party.
On a more general level, it also extends the primaries to give every state a voice...which, btw, was the reason the Democratic race between Hillary and Obama went to the very end.
I think Palin is high comedy. You can never lose, though, by betting on the stupidity of American voters. :rolleyes:
Simple...because proportional allocation of delegates prevents any one candidate, like a Palin or a Tea-Bagger winning states with only a plurality, but not a majority, of support from within their own party.
On a more general level, it also extends the primaries to give every state a voice...which, btw, was the reason the Democratic race between Hillary and Obama went to the very end.
That is not necessary for the process to move forward fairly.
That is not necessary for the process to move forward fairly.
It is not necessary, but it provide more fairness.
Personally, I never understood the value of a winner-take-all system, that enables a candidate to win a state when the majority of the party voters in that state did not support that candidate.
But, hey, the party can chose what every system they like.
It is not necessary, but it provide more fairness.
Personally, I never understood the value of a winner-take-all system, that enables a candidate to win a state when the majority of the party voters in that state did not support that candidate.
That is your opinion. Do you want to see us abandon the Electoral College as well?
Do you want to see us abandon the Electoral College as well?
Nope.
Liberals love her as a punching bag.
...
But the big difference between Palin and a punching bag is the punching bag doesn't run head first into the fist.
I think ut wants to marry her and have like ten thousand of her babies. ;)
:bolt:
If they would ignore her she would be more marginalized. IMHO, the more attention they give her the more hard core right wings flock to her just to piss off the left. I think she may have a chance to get into the senate or house but that is about it.
There are still a lot of roles she can fulfill, depending on how split the Republican party is. She could be doing this for cash, as UT suggests, and then use her influence for support of a candidate she personally endorses. If she tells her base that "candidate X" is a good choice, there is a good chance her base will support that candidate. Another scenario is that she may make a presidential run solely to try to influence the race. Even if she will lose, she will have a large influence on the race and her political opponents will be forced to fill the voter vacuum when she drops out, making the winning candidate closer to her views then if she didn't run. She could also be delusional.
She could also be delusional.
This one has my vote.
A rather interesting interview from a reporter from the Weekly Standard notes how Palin's political statements have changed now that only the extreme right is supporting her. As governor in AK, Palin had plenty of Democratic support because she was more moderate and was taking on real problems - such as renegotiating oil company contracts with the state.
Steve Schmidt (if that name is spelled correctly), from Cheney's office, somehow took over the McCain campaign after McCain took the Republican nomination. Somehow he eliminated McCain's VP preferences and got Palin on the ticket. Then (somehow) Palin was not saying what she was expected to say.
Palin's job was to be the attack dog - criticize Obama. But she kept 'going rogue'. Palin was not the right wing extremist they expected and wanted her to be. So Palin was kept closely controlled - could not even campaign for weeks without McCain at her side.
The irony is that Steve Schmitt and right wing staffers imported to McCain's campaign are now is a pissy hiss with their choice - Palin. Unfortunately for Palin, she cannot seem to get beyond this cat fight. Instead of attracting moderate Republicans, she is preaching more extremist rhetoric while conducting a 'hearsay accusations' fight with many of those same party extremists.
After reading the previous posts, and all of the mud stream media hatred for Sarah Palin, I can only come to one conclusion. Everyone who has views which are contrary to what the founding fathers were is as terrified of Sarah Palin as I am of Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Therefore, no matter what is said here, or MSNBC, I will support her. No apologies to my athiest communist anarchist friends.
Republican social consevatives are dumb as rocks? :eek: I would like to protest this slander on the behalf of rocks everywhere. RSC's are more closely akin to simple single celled organisms such as blue-green algae. Algal blooms can kill pets and even people. It is an example of a once benign organism gone haywire. Sign of the end times no. 983 - blue green algae take over the earth.
Go here if you want to worry about something today:
http://www.pca.state.mn.us/water/clmp-toxicalgae.html
I would like to protest on behalf of prokaryotes.
I'll see your prokaryote and raise you two eukaryotes. ;)
After reading the previous posts, and all of the mud stream media hatred for Sarah Palin, I can only come to one conclusion. Everyone who has views which are contrary to what the founding fathers were is as terrified of Sarah Palin as I am of Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Therefore, no matter what is said here, or MSNBC, I will support her. No apologies to my athiest communist anarchist friends.
OOOOH! I've never been called an athiest communist anarchist before. May I quote you?
I feel a sudden surge of user titles coming on,
Not afraid of "her". She would make a poor leader, and we're afraid stupid people will elect her.
Yes, except for Quayle, the major party's choices of candidates were people that you might note vote for, but you didn't have to worry about them causing an Apocalypse.
...and then use her influence for support of a candidate she personally endorses. If she tells her base that "candidate X" is a good choice, there is a good chance her base will support that candidate.
The Republican Oprah.
Therefore, no matter what is said here, or MSNBC, I will support her.
No surprise there.
Palin addresses dejected fans on book tour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8mAZhOJIfI
The video above shows how upset Palin fans were as Palin was unable to fill everyone's request for an autograph at a book signing on Thursday in Noblesville, IN. Outside the Borders bookstore, fans shouted, "Sign our books! Sign our books!" as Palin's bus drove away, heading for the next book tour stop.
The estimated 100 or so disappointed fans were reportedly given signed pieces of paper, while some demanded refunds. Most fans were dejected because they never received an apology. However, late Friday night, Palin addressed her fans on her Facebook page:
[INDENT]"The response on this book tour has been overwhelming. We are truly humbled, and I thank you.
I've been told that yesterday there were supporters in Noblesville who stood in long lines for hours in the cold and rain, and the book signing event ended without a chance to say hello to everyone who showed up. I am so sorry. We are working on a solution for those who were left behind.
I apologize."[/INDENT]
"I've been told?!" She couldn't hear the shouting from inside her fancy bus? She refused to look out a window?
Ms. Palin's "quitting early" stunt last night kinda reminds me of something else she did not long ago...
:rolleyes:
I find it tough to hold her personally responsible for this gaffe, because I doubt she's in charge.
This tour is like a campaign, organized by the publisher, with a group of handlers, and a whole lot of logistics to coordinate. I'll bet Palin is busy jumping through hoops, in this dog & pony show, and could have been completely unaware of what was happening in Noblesville.
I've been told that yesterday there were supporters in Noblesville who stood in long lines for hours in the cold and rain, and the book signing event ended without a chance to say hello to everyone who showed up. I am so sorry. We are working on a solution for those who were [COLOR="Red"]left behind[/COLOR].
Interesting language choice...
You suspect she signed the books of the right behind, and not those left behind? :lol:
Actually I was thinking about the second favorite book for Palinists.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51xc2vGfhhL._SL500_.jpgAs in ... no child left behind?
As in "Christian" end-timers.
there's an art gallery at the end of my street (I know, hard to believe) with a current show of sculpture three-D stuff. One of the winners is titled "Sarah Palin as Kali" and it's fooking hilarious. Wish I knew how to post a pic....I'll try to find....BTW, it's the Rosewood Arts Gallery, Kettering, OHIO. HWD is the name of the show.
eta_ nope, can't find a pic. was really cute. she had an AK in one hand, a spear in the other, a couple shields in other hands...you get the picture.
Therefore, no matter what is said here, or MSNBC, I will support her. No apologies to my athiest communist anarchist friends.
To simplify the previous post. From that Weekly Standard reporter who knew Palin before she was selected. She did not represent your extreme right wing politics. She is now preaching that party line because those are her only supporters. She is learning how to be political - less honest. We know who Palin was before she was selected by Steve Schmitt - a right wing extremist. Even her book discusses the right wingers accusing her of going rogue. She had a bad habit of saying what she believed; not the campaign rhetoric. Why would you support her because she is learning how to be more political? Spinning a political line that is more extremist because that is where her only political support lies.
Palin may be effective in the next decade but the Republicans need to start looking for young fiscally conservative socially liberal Republicans to build up or they will be in trouble in twenty to thirty years.
They also need to separate themselves from the Christian Right. The stench of theocracy puts off a lot of us middle of the roaders who would otherwise be able to consider a Republican.
Another "real American" star has waded into the sarah-fest:
Forever a part of American electoral history, Joe Wurzelbacher--better known as "Joe the Plumber".....
In a wide-ranging interview with E&P, Wurzelbacher also shared his thoughts on Sarah Palin (he hopes she doesn't run for president in 2012).... He also called President Obama's ideology "unAmerican.
..."I hope she doesn't (run) because I think she could do a lot for America outside of office," Wurzelbacher said. "And I think she could rally Americans to get together and make some changes from the grassroots level. I think she could be an incredible rallying point, and I think that's where she could serve America best."...
...In her memoir "Going Rogue," released Tuesday, Palin writes of Wurzelbacher, "Joe the Plumber reminded me personally of those Country Kitchen guys I'd sat with on Friday mornings in Wasilla when I was mayor. I liked him."
Asked what he thought of the compliment, Wurzelbacher said, "That's pretty cool. I'm glad she liked me because the feeling was very mutual."
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1004044948
We missed ya, Joe. Keep it up!
They also need to separate themselves from the Christian Right. The stench of theocracy puts off a lot of us middle of the roaders who would otherwise be able to consider a Republican.
Amen, the Christian Right is a bigger danger to us/US than all the Islamic countries put together.
Ahhh, "UnAmerican". The criticism you use when you don't have a coherent criticism. UnAustralian works almost as well, but we get to use "Anti-American" too.
Actually I was thinking about the second favorite book for Palinists.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51xc2vGfhhL._SL500_.jpg
:lol:
Another "real American" star has waded into the sarah-fest:
Sort of like Pelosi calling Americans she disagrees with Nazi's?
Sort of like Pelosi calling Americans she disagrees with Nazi's?
Please explain how it is in any way similar.
If Joe believes Obama's ideology is "unAmerican" that must make Joe a better American than Obama supporters who share that ideology.
It really isnt that easy to run away from your ignorant and offensive Pelosi/Nazi characterization.. one that you appear to take great pride in.
Please explain how it is in any way similar.
If Joe believes Obama's ideology is "unAmerican" that must make Joe a better American than Obama supporters who share that ideology.
If Pelosi thinks that Americans who don't support her views and are willing to stand up and say so in public are Nazi's it is the same thing.
It really isnt that easy to run away from your ignorant and offensive Pelosi/Nazi characterization.. one that you appear to take great pride in.
Does it bother you that I like to call Pelosi a Nazi?:p
I'm going to have to photoshop a picture of her in an SS uniform just for you. :D
Does it bother you that I like to call Pelosi a Nazi?
Nope...it doesnt bother me that you come across as ignorant when you gloat and make that type of characterization.
I'm going to have to photoshop a picture of her in an SS uniform just for you. :D
You do that, Merc....very mature.
Nope...it doesnt bother me that you come across as ignorant when you gloat and make that type of characterization.
Actually I pride myself on pointing out how you Dems are no different from the Republickins.
Sort of like Pelosi calling Americans she disagrees with Nazi's?
Nah. More like GW Bush and Donny Rumsfeld calling Americans they disagree with
Nazi appeasers.
Nah. More like GW Bush and Donny Rumsfeld calling Americans they disagree with Nazi appeasers.
Sounds like a name calling fest with both sides pointing fingers. :fumette:The Demoncrats in power in Congress are as much Nazi's as the Republickins who were last in power. I wouldn't piss on Pelosi or Bush if they were copulating and on fire.:vomitblu::greenface
Sounds like a name calling fest with both sides pointing fingers. :fumette:The Demoncrats in power in Congress are as much Nazi's as the Republickins who were last in power. I wouldn't piss on Pelosi or Bush if they were copulating and on fire.:vomitblu::greenface
Uh...the only Cellarate repeatedly playing the Nazi card is you, Merc.
Sounds like a name calling fest with both sides pointing fingers.
Perhaps, but did you notice who frist brought Pelosi/Nazis
into this discussion about Sarah Palin? Godwin's Law, dude. You lose.
The Demoncrats in power in Congress are as much Nazi's as the Republickins who were last in power.
I completely disagree - there are no Nazis in Congress, nor in the White House. It appears you are using a definition of
Nazi that is markedly different than mine.
Uh...the only Cellarate repeatedly playing the Nazi card is you, Merc.
Actually I believe Pelosi did. :D
Actually I believe Pelosi did. :D
Whatever you say, Merc.
Its there for all to see and I wont be surprised if we see it again.
Whatever you say, Merc.
Its there for all to see and I wont be surprised if we see it again.
I can promise you that! :D :thumb: :fumette:
Speaking of Nazis, Merc, put that bloody apostrophe back where you found it. Grrrr. ;)
The video above shows how upset Palin fans were as Palin was unable to fill everyone's request for an autograph at a book signing on Thursday in Noblesville, IN. Outside the Borders bookstore, fans shouted, "Sign our books! Sign our books!" as Palin's bus drove away, heading for the next book tour stop.
The estimated 100 or so disappointed fans were reportedly given signed pieces of paper, while some demanded refunds. Most fans were dejected because they never received an apology. However, late Friday night, Palin addressed her fans on her Facebook page:
"The response on this book tour has been overwhelming. We are truly humbled, and I thank you.
I've been told that yesterday there were supporters in Noblesville who stood in long lines for hours in the cold and rain, and the book signing event ended without a chance to say hello to everyone who showed up. I am so sorry. We are working on a solution for those who were left behind.
I apologize."
"I've been told?!" She couldn't hear the shouting from inside her fancy bus? She refused to look out a window?
Ms. Palin's "quitting early" stunt last night kinda reminds me of something else she did not long ago...
:rolleyes:
We are truly humbled
Now she thinks she's royalty.
Time to reiterate:
Sarah Palin; what a cunt.
Time to reiterate:
Sarah Palin; what a cunt.
Same for Pelosi...:) What a fucking cunt.
That's why I like this place - all the pithy insights. :rolleyes:
Ahh... Life is filled with diverse views on many subjects. It is what makes this place so grand.
Opinions are like arseholes. Everybody has one but that doesn't mean we want to see yours.
(not aimed at anyone in particular there).
Well to be honest I can't stand Palin either. I just think turnabout is fair play. I subscribe to none of them. Really. It is all a bore.
That's why I like this place - all the pithy insights. :rolleyes:
The lithping too.
Given a choice between Obama and Palin -- I'd take the one who
isn't at all a socialist. Which lets out every Democrat leftwards of Joe Lieberman.
Many wish she would just go away, including a lot of conservatives who agree she's just a nutjob.
Yeah, and I wish she'd keep that daughter of hers off the net, too. ;)
Y'know, Classic, I am not very impressed with those. Assorted people, some of them really pretty goddam grubby, run about clanging the cowbells chanting "Palin is a nutjob, Palin is a nutjob," but I just don't see it. It looks much more to me like a cultural clash between stuffy Northeasterners and the necessarily rugged and frontiersy Alaskan than any question of even eccentricity, to say nothing of mental health.
Y'know, people were saying things like "Don't look at her personal life, just her policies". That is not an absolute. The one question I had for her was "Now that you know from personal experience that good teenage girls from good families have sex, have you changed your view on only funding abstinence only education?"
She could say she hasn't and keep her base.
She could say she has which would show the ability to learn from experience and change.
She would probably dodge the question and attack the questioner.
Or just listen for keywords and recite the appropriate talking point.
The lithping too.
Given a choice between Obama and Palin -- I'd take the one who isn't at all a socialist. Which lets out every Democrat leftwards of Joe Lieberman.
Yeah because pure right wing ideology creates a perfect government, just ask any nation that has had a fascist in power. Like Germany.
Assorted people, some of them really pretty goddam grubby, run about clanging the cowbells chanting "Palin is a nutjob, Palin is a nutjob," but I just don't see it.
It must be really fun to live in SoCal. People hardly ever run around here clanging cowbells. And when they do, they never bother to chant.
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Sorry, but I absolutely had to do it.
Yeah because pure right wing ideology creates a perfect government, just ask any nation that has had a fascist in power. Like Germany.
Oh really? Have you never ever, not once in your life or your education, ever EVER run across the term "Beefsteak Nazi," nor heard the quip that "Nazism went so far right that it met Communism coming around the other way"?
Fascism is just as leftist as Communism -- both are about government ownership of the means of production, both push the "collective," both expected to create, by legislative fiat yet, a "new class/sort of man," which was expected to be a large improvement over the regular variety, and both had the essential characteristic of the left wing: that a very large, omnipotent, omnicompetent State should run every least aspect of everyone's life. Thus, an immediate tropism to large-scale POWER is evident in both. Leftists really want power, and a lot more than conservatives do.
MTP, mistaking conservative ideas for fascistic ones (Might you be doing that, do you think? -- any risk of it? Can you spot any differences?) is simply lazy -- and exactly the deception the perfidious, dissembling, aggrandized-state Left wishes you to labor under. Ignorance Is Strength? Read that one somewhere? More precisely,
your ignorance is
their strength. Is that how you want it? If you wish to remain deceived or to remain lazy, then continue in your present view. But could I take you seriously as a thinker until you discontinue this received unwisdom and strike out on your own, with a searching mind? I for one find the ultrastatists' blandishments less and less attractive. I have better values than that. (They
hate that.)
I'm not pulling this out of the air; it's von Kuehnelt-Leddihn, who was smarter than you and me both together. At any rate, not a philosopher to sneeze at, for all his sentimental fondness for the house of Habsburg and the throne of Austria-Hungary. He clearly thought with Austria-Hungary gone belly-up that Europe began its long slide downhill. Perhaps this had something to do with most of its former territories falling behind the Iron Curtain.
It must be really fun to live in SoCal. People hardly ever run around here clanging cowbells. And when they do, they never bother to chant.
Danggggg... that's just... well, it's terrible.
"We will fight for Bovine freedom,
And hold our large heads high
We will run free with the buffalo
Or die...
Cows With Guns!"
The extreme left and right are equally evil and disgusting. You're an extremist. Wouldn't matter if you were left or right.
You're wrong about me. No surprise there.
How am I wrong? You wrote a certain thing, a certain way. This is the product of your mind and what is in it. Thus, I see and understand you, and have some insight behind the words.
The point I am trying to make here is that the extreme left and the extreme right are not actually distinguishable, and calling me an extremist here is simply wrong and lazy -- therefore, I conclude you haven't any experience at all of conservative -- not radical -- thinking. Not exactly a rare condition.
What's keeping you reticent is you know how difficult it is to try and defend leftist-type beliefs around someone like me, who has a pretty clear idea what ideas are worth keeping, and what is wrong with the ideas that aren't. This is hardly extremism, merely sense. Certain valueless goobers would go, "Oh, he's one of those coots that make MORAL judgements," while dramatically rolling their eyes inviting other people into agreement with their worthless opinion and valueless "values." Not being impressed with such as these, I continue being some description of a moral being, and am not afraid of this. Some people would want me to be. Up theirs.
I wrote a certain thing a certain way. You read it wrong. Also, again, your conclusion about me is wrong.
I am lazy, but not wrong.
Really?
And just how could I have read it "better?" If you can't write what you mean, why did you write at all?? You have fully communicated that you can't distinguish a conservative from a fascist, which I say is a hell of a mistake. You are certainly not communicating any clarification -- of any point. That isn't thinking, and it isn't writing either.
Don't expect me to express frustration. The conversation may pause from time to time, but it need not end.
I did write what I mean. Again, you read it wrong. I never said anything about plain conservatism, I said far right. Do you really think you're moderate?
Yeah because pure right wing ideology creates a perfect government, just ask any nation that has had a fascist in power. Like Germany.
Translation of Nazi Party= National
Socialist Party. Socialism is a left wing, not right wing philosphy. Just sayin'.
Fascism is just as leftist as Communism
No, you're comparing Germany's Fascism with the USSR, which was not Communism, but another dose of Fascism... and neither are left. (no pun intended):headshake
Translation of Nazi Party= National Socialist Party. Socialism is a left wing, not right wing philosphy. Just sayin'.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Because its
called National Socialist Party you think it was socialism? Do a quick google search. They were fascists.
Nazism is often considered by scholars to be a form of fascism. While it incorporated elements from both left and right-wing politics, the Nazis formed most of their alliances on the right.
Just sayin'. :rolleyes:
Or just listen for keywords and recite the appropriate talking point.
No, she'd probably listen for keywords and recite the
inappropriate talking point.
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Y'know, people were saying things like "Don't look at her personal life, just her policies". That is not an absolute. The one question I had for her was "Now that you know from personal experience that good teenage girls from good families have sex, have you changed your view on only funding abstinence only education?"
How do you know that she did not know previously that "good teenage girls from good families have sex"?
I read a quote where she claimed it was a surprise her kid was sexually active.
That statement surprised me, but I don't remember where I read it.
I read a quote where she claimed it was a surprise her kid was sexually active.
That statement surprised me, but I don't remember where I read it.
It has been my experience that most parents say the same thing, esp when their kid shows up prego. They knew it went on but never thought their kid did it. All the more reason to educate kids in all aspects of sex education and make contraceptives available to them when they do become sexually active.
Maybe parents need teen-sex education too.
Or contraceptives, so they aren't parents.
How do you know that she did not know previously that "good teenage girls from good families have sex"?
I'm saying that, giving her the benefit of the doubt, she based her 'abstinence only' decision on her personal beliefs and experience. After she was 'surprised' by her own daughter, did this alter her beliefs in any way?
The distinction between ignorance and stupidity is that the first means lack of knowledge, and the second means the inability to learn.
As a potential voter, I am curious as to her capacity for learning and adapting to new circumstances as well as doing what's best for her constituents versus what's satisfies her political base.
Give credit to Obama that on most of the major issues right now he is willing to piss off his base to get things done. From what I hear, on this specific issue Palin is still giving the party line. If she got into office and her worldview got a shock similar to that in her personal life, would she be able and willing to adjust, even in her first term in office and looking at reelection?
I'm saying that, giving her the benefit of the doubt, she based her 'abstinence only' decision on her personal beliefs and experience. After she was 'surprised' by her own daughter, did this alter her beliefs in any way?
The distinction between ignorance and stupidity is that the first means lack of knowledge, and the second means the inability to learn.
As a potential voter, I am curious as to her capacity for learning and adapting to new circumstances as well as doing what's best for her constituents versus what's satisfies her political base.
What constituents? She is not in any office. She is not running for office. She wrote a book and is trying to become a mouth piece for the far Right. Why demonize a mother who is not unlike any other mother surprised by a teen pregnacy who is her daughter.
What constituents? She is not in any office. She is not running for office. She wrote a book and is trying to become a mouth piece for the far Right. Why demonize a mother who is not unlike any other mother surprised by a teen pregnacy who is her daughter.
A) What makes you think she isn't running for office or will be. There is every possibility that she will present herself as a candidate and I have every right to gather information and form opinions.
B) This isn't about her being a mother. This is about her remaining a political figure publicly lobbying for policies which her personal experience demonstrates as unworkable.
A) What makes you think she isn't running for office or will be.
Because to date there is no evidence that she is or will.
There is every possibility that she will present herself as a candidate and I have every right to gather information and form opinions.
Oh, I had never said anything to contrary.
B) This isn't about her being a mother. This is about her remaining a political figure publicly lobbying for policies which her personal experience demonstrates as unworkable.
Her personal experience as a mother who happened to have a daughter who made a bad decision, on her own, has nothing to do with her personal views or public lobbying for any policy which supports her moral views. Don't get me wrong, I am no Holy Roller, and do not support the hard right views on many things, including crap Palin has supported. My point is just because a teen daughter fucks up and screws some dude and has a baby has nothing to do with Palin the Right-wing supporter. Her daughters pregnancy is not part of what Palin may or may not believe she wanted her daughter to do or not do. Why doesn't anyone attack any of the left wing mothers who are in congress? Pelosi must be one fucked up mother with 6 kids she is neglecting as she screws this country up right?
I still wish she would go away - just fade off into the sunset - your 15 minutes of fame or whatever are over. I am still shocked that anyone - ANYONE still feels she is a viable candidate for anything.
I can see why the left would want to keep pumping her up as viable because she is unelectable, but the stupidity of the right to give her even a cent for any election is a total waste of time, effort and money.
I don't care what she does. I don't think she will get elected to squat. I think that if she stuck out her governership she would have had a shot at a senate seat in congress for alaska, but not now. She has been marginalized.
She has been marginalized.
And yet her book is huge success and she appears to have a large and loyal following in what remains of the base of the Republican party.
If the Republicans were still committed to 'big tent' moderation, I would agree that she has been marginalized. If, however, they continue to woo the right in the partially correct assumption that the far right are more committed voters, then she still has power.
The far right strategy may win the Republicans primaries and possibly off-year elections where the rest of the population is too apathetic to vote.
This is why the Republican's only hope is anti-Democratic sentiment, saying in effect that they are the only other game in town. IF they pack themselves up with far right candidates, even this strategy may fail.
It's a mistake to assume her fans are all in the "base of the Republican party", though. I've met educated liberals that think she's a breath of fresh air, to a system they're disenchanted with.
And yet her book is huge success and she appears to have a large and loyal following in what remains of the base of the Republican party.
So basically you and the liberal left fear her?
Not at all - I think they love her because she is so unelectable to the masses.
It is just that, as Darling E-girl understood, all liberals are wankers. If you'd ever tried tossing off to a picture of Hilary, you'd understand why they like Sarah.
I did write what I mean. Again, you read it wrong. I never said anything about plain conservatism, I said far right. Do you really think you're moderate?
Yes, MTP, I do. I amount to center right. I'm not timid about it to be sure, and all the less so for the best my opposition here can muster. Their want of wisdom amazes. Their inability to maintain their argument is... routine, that's the word.
The center-right is the bulk of the people at the TEA Parties. Middle America goes to TEA Parties.
No, you're comparing Germany's Fascism with the USSR, which was not Communism, but another dose of Fascism... and neither are left. (no pun intended):headshake
Bruce, I'll trust Erik von Kühnelt-Leddihn's judgement on that one over yours, slightly sorry to say -- however much easier your handle is to spell than his. He was as bright as both of us put together, maybe with Wolf added in. (I wouldn't add Radar except as a make-weight.) Were you to bother to get his
Leftism Revisited you'd have the understanding of it that I do: he makes the case that both are in the leftward end of the spectrum. Until you do this bit of required reading, you're flailing away in disgraceful ignorance. Not a problem I have.
The left side of the aisle began as a French enthusiasm for using a large, activist, much-empowered State to right social ills. Nothing, really, more than that. In the beginning.
You'll believe anybody that says what you want to hear, silly boy. :rolleyes:
Until you do this bit of required reading, you're flailing away in disgraceful ignorance. Not a problem I have.
Oh, quit whining, UG. WE all know that you are quantum leaps above the rest of us when it comes to IQ. You have read every book in the library of congress at least three times. This is in addition to your usual persual of the Congressional Record, never mind the Federal Statutes and any pertaining slip laws.
I, on the other hand like those large comic books with the big crayon. No doubt you will call me a fellow traveler with the other commie cunts. Or with any luck you'll label me a "natterig nabob of negatism."
I am mostly mad at you and your cronies boring Redux to tears, so that he departed from these groups. Between Mercenary, Classicman, and you, all there is left to read is anti-commie propaganda. Why don't you just go down and picket Wally World and leave the rest of us in peace.
I, on the other hand like those large comic books with the big crayon.
Hey! I like those. Don't judge a book by a single issue. {or would that be a magazine since it would be published more often?}
Between Mercenary, Classicman, and you, all there is left to read is anti-commie propaganda.
Would you like some cheese with that?
Redux and I have had both good and negative discussions both on the board and off. Please leave me out of your petty little squabbles. mmmkay?
Sorry that everyone isn't all aboard the Obama train. :right:
Sounds like a name calling fest with both sides pointing fingers. :fumette:The Demoncrats in power in Congress are as much Nazi's as the Republickins who were last in power. I wouldn't piss on Pelosi or Bush if they were copulating and on fire.:vomitblu::greenface
Would you like some cheese with that?
No, but I would like to see you with a mop, cleaning up after your own over active imagination. :eyebrow:
I think my statements were quite fair. I wouldn't change a word. You have a problem with them?
Would you like some cheese with that?
Redux and I have had both good and negative discussions both on the board and off. Please leave me out of your petty little squabbles. mmmkay?
Sorry that everyone isn't all aboard the Obama train. :right:
I went back and looked at your posts and see nothing to really quarrel about except I'm pro Obama and you're not. Peace?
Then what are you doing on the interwebs, pansy? :D
Is rhat directed toward me? Its just the internet for Heaven's sake. I can turn it off or engage in a flame war if I so choose. Drivel like :wstupid::devil::drunk::smashfrea:apistola::sniper::rattat::magnum: Make me want to :bolt:
Besides, I miss Redux. I sorta had a crush on him. :blush:
I went back and looked at your posts and see nothing to really quarrel about except I'm pro Obama and you're not. Peace?
there will be no peace until we are crushed into a singularity . . . or something like that. :o
Actually I am pro America. Thats where I split ways with many people. Their first allegiance is to a party, many times without even realizing it. I don't give a flying fork what party someone is with. I care about this nation. I calls 'em like I sees 'em.
Eh, me, I am just anti-double standard.
Sorry, Sam, it was an attempt at a humorous response to you and Merc being polite to each other in a politics thread.
Humour staus: fail.
I don't think she has an interest in being polite to me about politics. But I respect that. No biggie. Carry on.
Oh, generally I'm polite to people who are polite to me. I think UG has put me off my feed in that regard. On the other hand, I don't mind a knock down, leave no enemies standing debate. I think its possible to do this without referring to my incredible intellect plus the use of sophmoric humor. And if you don't know who I mean, stick sround another second or two. ;)
....Actually I am pro America. Thats where I split ways with many people. Their first allegiance is to a party, many times without even realizing it. I don't give a flying fork what party someone is with. I care about this nation. I calls 'em like I sees 'em.
Oh man....the bullshit alarm was so loud this morning, it woke me up early.
But let me be the first to congratulate you on climb towards the Mercenary level of patriotism!
You are now a MercPat Second Class and officially a self-proclaimed better American that “cares more about the nation” than many of those who might have a different perspective on what is best for the country.
Pay attention now....In order to achieve First Class status, you must also proclaim that you are “anti-double standard” while posting more partisan opinions/articles than all other members combined and then claiming “failed” whenever those partisan opinions are challenged by those with a different view.
Silly me. I thought pro-American means having those core values of respecting the fact that we are all not required to think alike and one is free to express an opinion regarding what is best for the country w/o having his/her patriotism questioned.
A rhetorical question for you …..why is it that those who claim they put “country above party” (you, Merc, UG) are most often the same ones who are so intolerant and dismissive of the views of fellow citizens?
Come on, dude(s)......why should anyone take you seriously when put yourself above others here by sinking so low?
Oh...and before you bitch that I misinterpreted your post.....I'll just quote you...”I calls 'em like I sees 'em”
**resetting the bullshit alarm until the next “real American” posts another outrageous self-promoting comment that disparages those with a different point of view---- I'll be watching ;) **
Oh look what the cat dragged in...
Humour staus: fail.
Weird english spelling: fail.
Typing status: also fail. :D
A rhetorical question for you …..why is it that those who claim they put “country above party” (you, Merc, UG) are most often the same ones who are so intolerant and dismissive of the views of fellow citizens?
:lol2:
Weird english spelling: fail.
Typing status: also fail. :D
We should respect the opinion of others on how to spell words like humour, colour, grey or any of those others the wanna-be-brits and brits alike spell wrong!
Why doesn't anyone attack any of the left wing mothers who are in congress? Pelosi must be one fucked up mother with 6 kids she is neglecting as she screws this country up right?
Eh, me, I am just anti-double standard.
Just to clarify darlin'... Please give me a list of
male politicians neglecting their families. Ta.
I think it's dreadful that women are criticised for working - that's what happens in pretty much every Western country. And if the majority of women work, then it should be accepted that they can work in politics. You can bet that even
Kinder Kuche Kirche affliates these days have some female employees with children. Why? Because young mothers work for cheap.
If a party takes a stand on mothers in the home (risky even in right-wing America, surely?) then they cannot criticise working mothers. And if parents of both genders are necessary for a healthy upbringing, how can they support male career politicians who see their children about as often as a divorced Dad? Is he there at breakfast? Home to bath them? There all weekend?
Politicians are all mouth and no trousers. They try to enforce morals on us that they don't live by themselves (ditto journalists). Don't be fooled, people.
Sundae: :notworthy
Weird english spelling: fail.
Typing status: also fail. :D
Bah, I poke out my tongue in your general direction. :p
If you don't like the English version of English, maybe you should rename your peculiar regional dialect American or something. ;)
Just to clarify darlin'... Please give me a list of male politicians neglecting their families. Ta.
All of them.
I think it's dreadful that women are criticised for working - that's what happens in pretty much every Western country. And if the majority of women work, then it should be accepted that they can work in politics. You can bet that even Kinder Kuche Kirche affliates these days have some female employees with children. Why? Because young mothers work for cheap.
I agree, so why attack Palin in the first place?
If a party takes a stand on mothers in the home (risky even in right-wing America, surely?) then they cannot criticise working mothers. And if parents of both genders are necessary for a healthy upbringing, how can they support male career politicians who see their children about as often as a divorced Dad? Is he there at breakfast? Home to bath them? There all weekend?
I agree 100%.
Politicians are all mouth and no trousers. They try to enforce morals on us that they don't live by themselves (ditto journalists). Don't be fooled, people.
I agree 100%.
We should respect the opinion of others on how to spell words like humour, colour, grey or any of those others the wanna-be-brits and brits alike spell wrong!
Aw. I'm just joshin. Everyone knows I'm really an Anglophile.
maybe you should rename your peculiar regional dialect American or something. ;)
Yeah. Prolly.
Pro-ba-bly. Say it clearly. [/ass]
blah blah blah ...
Struck a nerve did I? You must be looking at the poll numbers.
Struck a nerve did I? You must be looking at the poll numbers.
Nope.
I'm just not impressed with self-proclaimed uber patriots who believe that they care more about the country than others who might have a different outlook on what is best for the country.
But hey, wave the flag and shout out that you're a real American and others here are not!
Nope.
I'm just not impressed with self-proclaimed uber patriots who believe that they care more about the country than others who might have a different outlook on what is best for the country.
But hey, wave the flag and shout out that you're a real American and others here are not!
And I'm just not impressed with self-proclaimed uber Demoncrats who believe that they care more about the country than others who might have a different outlook on what is best for the country and want to jam changes down the throat of the public while they tax and spend like whores.
And I'm just not impressed with self-proclaimed uber Demoncrats who believe that they care more about the country than others who might have a different outlook on what is best for the country and want to jam changes down the throat of the public while they tax and spend like whores.
I dont speak for anyone else, but please point to
any post of mine where I proclaimed that I care more about the country than others here.
Thank you in advance. :)
And perhaps explain at the same time
your self-proclaimed non-partisanship when you post more partisan opinions/articles than all others here combined..and when the "facts" (sic) in those opinions/articles are challenged, typically respond by calling others partisan.
Sounds like a double-standard to me, which I thought you oppose. :confused:
I am starting a Redux Fan Club. Who else is in?
:notworthy
I dont speak for anyone else, but please point to any post of mine where I proclaimed that I care more about the country than others here.
Thank you in advance. :)
It is not so much your thought that you and your party care more than anyone else but that you think you know what is
best for our country.;)
It is not so much your thought that you and your party care more than anyone else but that you think you know what is best for our country.;)
When I have I said I know what's best? You're right, I offer my opinion on what I think are the best policies for the country.
And when I have I attacked the patriotism of others or said that I "care more about the country" than those who disagree with me?
I'm just not impressed with self-proclaimed uber patriots who believe that they care more about the country than others who might have a different outlook on what is best for the country.
But hey, wave the flag and shout out that you're a real American and others here are not!
Now you are completely misquoting me. Cut the crap. I never said I was a self proclaimed patriot, never said I care more than anyone else, Never said anything about waving the flag and shouting. And most importantly I never said anything about anyone here being less of an American than I.
You're being overtly sensitive there. Everything ok?
Zengum, Dana, Sundae, and Ali are LESS American than you are. There. I said it.
Haggis - Thank you Bri. I bet you're gonna pick on Limey next huh?
Now you are completely misquoting me. Cut the crap. I never said I was a self proclaimed patriot, never said I care more than anyone else, Never said anything about waving the flag and shouting. And most importantly I never said anything about anyone here being less of an American than I.
You're being overtly sensitive there. Everything ok?
I calls em like I sees em:
[INDENT]
Actually I am pro America. Thats where I split ways with many people. Their first allegiance is to a party, many times without even realizing it. I don't give a flying fork what party someone is with. I care about this nation. I calls 'em like I sees 'em.[/INDENT]
Putting our Brit friends to the side :).....who among the dwellers involved in these discussions are not pro America?
I am starting a Redux Fan Club. Who else is in?
:notworthy
I will post the loyalty oath shortly and expect a pledge of absolute fealty...or else :behead:
Well, you know I'm all about my country. (Breaks into America the Beautiful)
(blah blah bitch bitch moan moan)
;)
Well, you know I'm all about my country. (Breaks into America the Beautiful)
(blah blah bitch bitch moan moan)
;)
Now you're sounding like Sarah Palin :eek::
[INDENT]We believe, we believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of
what I call the real America, being here with all of you
hard-working, very patriotic, pro-America areas of this great nation. This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of
everyday Americans: those who are running our factories and teaching our kids and growing our food and are fighting our wars for us[/INDENT]
It is that kind of self-righteous divisive bullshit (Classic:
Actually I am pro America. Thats where I split ways with many people...) that I find insufferable, if not laughable.
I care more about the party.
They booked UT's band, and I'm planning on sex, drugs and rock&roll.
When I have I said I know what's best?[/qquote]Every time you post.
You're right, I offer my opinion on what I think are the best policies for the country.
And that differs from what anyone else posts how?
[quote]And when I have I attacked the patriotism of others or said that I "care more about the country" than those who disagree with me?
I don't know and don't really care. But one could easily take many of your posts about the state of the nation and your responses to such as a statement of "care more about the country than those who disagree with me" in the tone of your posts as you try to contrast your position or that of your party against anyone who disagrees with your party line. You did it repeatedly in the discussion on Civil Rights, you have done it repeatedly in the Healthcare debate, and in numerous other posts. Now you act like you are someone without sin. I don't buy your bull shit.
I don't know and don't really care. But one could easily take many of your posts about the state of the nation and your responses to such as a statement of "care more about the country than those who disagree with me" in the tone of your posts as you try to contrast your position or that of your party against anyone who disagrees with your party line. You did it repeatedly in the discussion on Civil Rights, you have done it repeatedly in the Healthcare debate, and in numerous other posts. Now you act like you are someone without sin. I don't buy your bull shit.
One could say the same about you and your posts.
The difference is I have not told those who disagree with me to "fuck off" or called them "assholes" or repeatedly giving them a "failed" grade (well, it has been fun recently to throw that one back in your face).
Unlike you, when have I ever denied my partisanship? Or proclaimed that I am here to "represent the people"?
I calls em like I sees em:
[INDENT]Actually I am pro America. Thats where I split ways with many people. Their first allegiance is to a party, many times without even realizing it. I don't give a flying fork what party someone is with. I care about this nation. I calls 'em like I sees 'em.[/INDENT]
Putting our Brit friends to the side :).....who among the dwellers involved in these discussions are not pro America?
Who among our fellow dwellars were mentioned? None. I wasn't referring to anyone from here. I was referring to the extremists and/or blowhards in both parties. A few simple examples for you would be....Joe, Rush, Rachael, Sean, Glenn & Keith.
[QUOTE=TheMercenary;616403]
One could say the same about you and your posts.
Absolutely. It is the politics thread dude. That was my point.
The difference is I have not told those who disagree with me to "fuck off" or called them "assholes" or repeatedly giving them a "failed" grade (well, it has been fun recently to throw that one back in your face).
Eh, so you don't like my delivery sometimes, fuck off. :D
Unlike you, when have I ever denied my partisanship? Or proclaimed that I am here to "represent the people"?
Because someone is against the party in power, currently the Demoncrats since they gained the majority in Congress, does not mean one is in the "other" party. No matter how hard you have tried to box me into a Republickin mold. It would never work. I would never be accepted. Nice try though.:p
(blah blah bitch bitch moan moan)
well some things never change :rolleyes:
Watch it, I'll pop an Acorn in your ass.
Because someone is against the party in power, currently the Demoncrats since they gained the majority in Congress, does not mean one is in the "other" party. No matter how hard you have tried to box me into a Republickin mold. It would never work. I would never be accepted. Nice try though.:p
Right....posting more partisan opinions/articles than all others combined, then attacking as "partisan", anyone who might question the veracity of those partisan opinions/articles.
I guess you dont see the double standard from someone who is so
anti-double standard.And I'm just not impressed with self-proclaimed uber Demoncrats who believe that they care more about the country than others who might have a different outlook on what is best for the country and want to jam changes down the throat of the public while they tax and spend like whores.
Wait a minute: Gearge W Bush is a repubican!
Wait a minute: Gearge W Bush is a repubican!
Thought I'd preserve that for the spelling nazi.
Right....posting more partisan opinions/articles than all others combined, then attacking as "partisan", anyone who might question the veracity of those partisan opinions/articles.
You only call them partisan because they disagree with your parties position on the issues. That does not mean they implictly support the Repubs.
I guess you dont see the double standard from someone who is so anti-double standard.
There is no double standard.
Wait a minute: Gearge W Bush is a repubican!
Who is
Gearge?:p
Who is Gearge?:p
Your mom.
:D
I guess you dont see the double standard
There is no double standard.
:cool:
You only call them partisan because they disagree with your parties position on the issues. That does not mean they implictly support the Repubs.
There is no double standard.
In non double standard speak that you can relate to:
FAILED!
Bla, bla, bla... I love everything the Demoncrats do... Bla, bla, bla...
What ever dude. You are predictable.
What ever dude.....
Oh No....not the teen, angst-ridden "what ever" comeback!
(emma....is that you hiding under than merc mask?)
Who cares, Reflux has been exposed as a partisan hack.
Who cares, Reflux has been exposed as a partisan hack.
Thats the difference between us.
Exposed? I've been honest and up-front about my partisanship right from the start...never hiding behind a self-painted facade of being a "real" American for the "people".
That, and the fact, that I havent had to consistently resort to childish name calling and character assassination to make a point. ;)
Of course, you and UG are known for your carefully thought out posts and the fact that you are ever so right that you don't even bother to check your sources. I'd check a few of UG's posts where he openly aspires to the return of the monarchy before I got too cuddly under the sheets with him myself. :eyebrow:
Exposed? I've been honest and up-front about my partisanship right from the start...never hiding behind a self-painted facade of being a "real" American for the "people".
I will give you that. But don't try to box me into your bullshit box of "being a "real" American for the "people". I have never made such statements ever.
That, and the fact, that I havent had to consistently resort to childish name calling and character assassination to make a point. ;)
Total and utter bullshit. You have done the same thing you fucking idiot.
I will give you that. But don't try to box me into your bullshit box of "being a "real" American for the "people". I have never made such statements ever.
Total and utter bullshit. You have done the same thing you fucking idiot.
Bullshit is in the eye (or on the heel) of the beholder and you keep stepping in it....with your "no double standards"...or your "I'm not a partisan...I'm for the little guy" followed by your excessive number of partisan links....or your (and UGs) "Obama socialism"..or.....
I understand you are unable or unwilling to acknowledge any of the above.
No big deal... its business as usual around here. :)
And yes, I'll get in the gutter when I have to.....I just don't start in the gutter with personal attacks.
Bruce, I'll trust Erik von Kühnelt-Leddihn's judgement on that one over yours, not in the least sorry to say it, either.
See, EvKL (as I'll now call him) had all world politics down to two simple systems. Both fascism and Communism are actually the same thing. The only way to get us out of this mess is red-blooded monarcy or EVKL (ever notice how if you add the missing "i's" to EVKL you get EVILKIL? That means something I'm sure.
The comment on EVKL's brilliance had been deleted due to massive redundency
Though I will say that Wolf seems quite capable of defending herself. You're flailing away in disgraceful ignorance. Not a problem I have.
Well, thank god for small mercies. I don't know what I'd do with an intellect the size of yours. Pick up trash along the side of the road perhaps?
The left side of the aisle began as a French enthusiasm for using a large, activist, much-empowered State to right social ills. Nothing, really, more than that. In the beginning.
Right, then the social ills started getting addressed , the noblemen of Europe began to decrease in power, and you call yourself a midde of the road American. Have you ever thought of writing comedy? Oh by the way, what are your thoughts on droit de seigneur?
Come on fellas, it's nearly Christmas.
They even called a truce at Gallipoli for Christmas. I'm sure your need to belittle each other isn't nearly as life threatening as a bullet in the brain.
Silly me. I thought pro-American means having those core values of respecting the fact that we are all not required to think alike and one is free to express an opinion regarding what is best for the country w/o having his/her patriotism questioned.
A rhetorical question for you …..why is it that those who claim they put “country above party” (you, Merc, UG) are most often the same ones who are so intolerant and dismissive of the views of fellow citizens?
What we're dismissive of is views that amount to active support of less-than-democracies, that don't amount to active support of liberal democracies and the capitalism whereby they flourish (though you yourself are less hostile to capitalism than some bad examples we could name presently strutting the national stage), and in your particular case, your steady effort at uncalling (to coin some Newspeak) a spade a spade in insisting that socialistic policies instituted by the present Democratic Congress and Administration are somehow not socialistic. We know what socialism looks like, and we know what it does too -- punkers were simply a quick visual manifestation of socialism-driven goofballery, with their damaged clothing and their somebody-tied-me-to-a-chair-to-give-me-these haircuts. No; I quite dislike ugly styles. Even worse are styles vying in their ugliness.
I think there's a disconnect between your raw intellectual powers and your political allegiance -- voting Dem is for dull-normals. People who live without values that can actually be valuable. That sort of suboptimality. There isn't, by contrast, a disconnect between my politics and my brainpower, nor is there for Merc or Classic.
We're not intolerant. We're just able to make value judgements and to live by them. Some ideas and ways are worth more than others, and we three, anyway, seek the ways that are worth more, forsaking the ways that are worth less -- with the space or without it. (And we're the loudest about it, which is why I noticed.) Now you, by contrast, inasmuch as you have so internalized white liberal guilt that you believe it to be a moral structure and a road to virtue, are left trying to imply that we'd better live life without values, as your posts suggest you do. We are what not paralyzed by white liberal guilt looks like and sounds like, and I guarantee that's a better road than what you've hitherto trod.
"Fellow citizen" -- how would that equal "wise?" I'll quote Heinlein (as seems inevitable :rolleyes:)
Democracy is based on the assumption that a million men are wiser than one man. How's that again? I missed something.
Autocracy is based on the assumption that one man is wiser than a million men. Let's play that over again, too. Who decides?
A lot of subtle and provocative tensions between those two suspension points. The question of how wise the million could be was brought home to me sharply in the Clinton and Obama elections, not so in Carter's.
We do not see that the "difference of opinion" adds up to being pro-democracy, pro-liberal social orders, pro-prosperity
enough. Because of your liberal guilt, you're not enough of an apostle of democracy. Were you enough of one, you'd be ravening to cut Ba'athist throat, among those of other nondemocrats viciously opposing the democratizing and enriching effects of globalization. This would not necessarily make you a nice guy, don't get me wrong -- but it would be enough, aye, even a surplus. I think we three would only raven about it if we were in a particularly bad mood; we're not quite proof against the sable bird. Still, we cannot despise cutting totalitarian throats, and we have no reason to object to their passing from this world to another. It means they can't enslave our fellow creatures here. That is valuable.
Failing to destroy foreign tyrants, and domestic ones, is NOT "best for the country." Our troubles don't come from places of democracies. They come from places of tyranny, of undemocracy. So do not fail to destroy these things of villainy.
Thus we do; thus, you do not.
Thus, you could be doing. We wouldn't kick you out of the treehouse for trying.
Of course, you and UG are known for your carefully thought out posts . . .
Hey, how nice to be appreciated. Redux does cause me to think it out; Radar not so much.
I'd check a few of UG's posts where he openly aspires to the return of the monarchy before I got too cuddly under the sheets with him myself. :eyebrow:
Better do that checking, Sam; you will find I don't. I've remarked in a couple of posts that von Kühnelt-Leddihn visibly does, and even Russell Kirk sometimes wistfully looks that way.
Meantime, you should not make excuses for not reading EvKL. You should simply read the man and mull him over -- "helps to train and develop the brain/Except if you haven't got any." You were in effect asking to be allowed to remain stupid, to continue in ignorance. I always answer that goddamned question with a firm "No." It is not allowed.
Right away, you'll sputter, "Are you calling me stupid?!" I will always reply, "I am showing you an opportunity to become smarter."
Wiser, or better informed may be used as needed. Dunno 'bout you, but I find being not bright to be very uncomfortable, hence I hand you some discomfort when I don't think you're following a way of wisdom. And what if EvKL's works make you smarter than I am? While you're not there now -- no smart man will ask to limit his intelligence or his knowledge -- wouldn't it be cool if you could?
Meantime, you should not make excuses for not reading EvKL. You should simply read the man and mull him over -- "helps to train and develop the brain/Except if you haven't got any." You were in effect asking to be allowed to remain stupid, to continue in ignorance. I always answer that goddamned question with a firm "No." It is not allowed.
Excuse me, but I'll remain stupid if I feel like it. I am currently reading the comix ilustrated editions of
Collapse by Jared Diamond,
Zen Buddhism. selected writings of d.t. suzki, and
No Nature by Gary Snyder.
Here's a fav passage from
No Nature:
In the first thirty years of my life
I roamed hundreds and thousands of miles.
Walked by rivers through deep grass
Entered cities of boiling red dust.
Tried drugs but couldn't make immortal.
Read books and wrote poems on history.
Today I'm back at Cold Mountain
I'll sleep by the creek and clarify my ears.
I'll will not lower my standards to include your so-called definition of intelligence. Try reading more poetry, especially Rilke. God might just jump out at you and give you the scare of your life (and if you need me to explain that I would be honored to do so.)
Right away, you'll sputter, "Are you calling me stupid?!" I will always reply, "I am showing you an opportunity to become smarter." Wiser, or better informed may be used as needed. Dunno 'bout you, but I find being not bright to be very uncomfortable, hence I hand you some discomfort when I don't think you're following a way of wisdom. And what if EvKL's works make you smarter than I am? While you're not there now -- no smart man will ask to limit his intelligence or his knowledge -- wouldn't it be cool if you could?
I couldn't care less if you call me stupid. Repeat it long and often. After all, even negative attention is better than none at all. I question your ability to "make" me smarter. I have to respect a person before I seriously consider his thought processes.
Then you will cut off your nose to spite your face, Sam. Can't say that does anything to improve your looks. I shall continue to throw smart-making things your way. "Here I stand; I can do no other."
Of course you question my ability. And so what?
Regarding stupidity, here's a little something I live by, which is why I told you I don't allow people around me to stay dumb:
Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death, there is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity.
Heinlein again.From
here. Hopefully, Entertainment Tonight isn't too biased.
Former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin doesn't find the humor in "Family Guy," calling the show "cruel and cold hearted," yet she had kinder words for Rush Limbaugh on the same controversial issue.
Of a passing reference to her on "Family Guy" made by a character with Down syndrome, Sarah said she took it personally and found it to be offensive. "This world is full of cruel, cold hearted people who would do such a thing," she told Bill O'Reilly on "The O'Reilly Factor" Tuesday night.
Her son Trig also has Down syndrome. "Trig is going to have a pretty tough, challenging life ahead of him," she said. "Much more difficult than we ever will, so why make it tougher on the special needs community? That's what I thought when I first heard about this episode."
In conclusion, she asked: "When is enough, enough? When are we going to be willing to say, you know, some things just aren't funny?"
She also recently blasted Rahm Emanuel for using the word "retard" in a closed door meeting with liberal activists -- even calling for him to be fired -- yet did not seem to take offense at fellow conservative personality Rush Limbaugh, who used the same term.
On his program, Rush said: "Our political correct society is acting like some giant insult's taken place by calling a bunch of people who are retards, retards ... I mean these people, these liberal activists are kooks."
Sarah says Rush was "using satire" so he could bring to light what Rahm was calling other people.
"Family Guy" is an animated half-hour comedy on FOX, Sunday nights at 9 p.m.
Oh, typical Palin. She is SUCH a victim of the evil writers of Family Guy, but Limballs could call her a cunt and she'd be salivating. :rolleyes:
Oh, typical Palin. She is SUCH a victim of the evil writers of Family Guy, but Limballs could call her a cunt and she'd be salivating. :rolleyes:
Ha! Yeah, a sign that she has no self-esteem, crawling around after him like she does. Apparently, she fits the "i love abuse" stereotype. Way to set the women's movement back 200 years, Sarah, ya dumbass. :p:
She is SUCH a victim of the evil writers of Family Guy, ...
Dan Quayle had enough common sense to ignore the silliness. Where is Dan Quayle when we need him? Still sitting in that room waiting for the next "Project for a New American Century" meeting?
We got the New American Century we wanted - with Palin as its new spokesman.
So what if we start making fun of kids with Autism? Is that ok? or is it just because it is Palin that makes it ok to attack her family?
Its because of Palin's different responses. St. Limbaugh can call people retards and Palin's fine with it. Its like bass ackward political correctness. :headshake
Its because of Palin's different responses. St. Limbaugh can call people retards and Palin's fine with it. Its like bass ackward political correctness. :headshake
My point is that is not correct in either contex. Limbaugh gets no pass from me. I think he is an idiot. Nothing excuses attacking a child of a political person you hate, even if it is Palin. We heard all this shit about Palin and how bad a mother she was during the election, abandoning her kids, etc. But no one batted an eye about that bitch Pelosi who is the terrible mother of 6. Right? No. It has nothing to do with it. And even though I believe Pelosi is a retard I don't make fun of her because of that.:)
Dan Quayle had enough common sense to ignore the silliness. Where is Dan Quayle when we need him?
On Fox News announcing that his son in running for Congress.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2010/02/former-vp-quayles-son-runs-for-congress/1
Not every rookie political wannabe gets to have his campaign announcement on national TV.
Palin/Qualye, 2012 ....
That sounds like a particularly troubling example of slash fiction.
[eta] *snicker* So..... Urbane, Mercenary and classicman: united against the world...one for all, and all for one! The Three Mouseketeers.
@ merc and classic: sorry. Couldn't resist. Bet you boys are thrilled to have Urbane represent you :P
[eta] *snicker* So..... Urbane, Mercenary and classicman: united against the world...one for all, and all for one! The Three Mouseketeers.
@ merc and classic: sorry. Couldn't resist. Bet you boys are thrilled to have Urbane represent you :P
Wrong order.
Classic, Urbane and Mercenary - The CUM Party
tagline: the manly freedom fighters!
Wrong order.
Classic, Urbane and Mercenary - The CUM Party
tagline: the manly freedom fighters!
Naval freedom fighters - they're all semen. :D
My point is that is not correct in either contex.
I agree
Limbaugh gets no pass from me.
really?
I think he is an idiot.
He is
Nothing excuses attacking a child of a political person you hate, even if it is Palin.
But what about
this
Though no tape of McCain's quip has yet emerged, this is what he reportedly said:
"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
Because her father is Janet Reno."
We heard all this shit about Palin and how bad a mother she was during the election, abandoning her kids, etc.
All true
But no one batted an eye about that bitch Pelosi who is the terrible mother of 6. Right?
Prove it.
No. It has nothing to do with it. And even though I believe Pelosi is a retard I don't make fun of her because of that.:)
You just insult her by calling her a retard. OK. More insults, still no substance.
I was thinking about Chelsea Clinton. I have a feeling many of those currently crying FOUL were guilty of making jokes about Chelsea. Probably got a big yuk-yuk about it as they stood around their pick-ups adorned with mudflaps depicting an overly-endowed woman silhouette in shiny chrome.
How must that have felt to a pre-teen/teenage girl? Would you want someone to hurt your daughter like that? :headshake
A great man once called it "selective outrage." ;)
edit: no it's not right in any case. It happens. My point is the selective outrage. Just like Palin, it only upsets you if by yelling you seem righteous and good, and your feigned anger propels your agenda.
You just insult her by calling her a retard. OK. More insults, still no substance.
I have made no statements about Pelosi's mothering skills other than to point out the duplicity and short memory of the Lefty-wingnuts. I will always insult Pelosi the politician. :D
@ merc and classic: sorry. Couldn't resist. Bet you boys are thrilled to have Urbane represent you :P
eh, those are groupings place by others. No biggie. Neither UG or Classic represent me. I represent me. :p:
I have made no statements about Pelosi's mothering skills other than to point out the duplicity and short memory of the Lefty-wingnuts. I will always insult Pelosi the politician. :D
ORLY?
How about Pelosi? she must be one shitty mother to leave all those kids alone while she went after the power of a member of the US House.
From here.As I stated, it was to point out the duplicity. I am glad you now see it.
:headshake:
Do you have yourself fooled?
As I stated, it was to point out the duplicity. I am glad you now see it.
The post you were responding to was about McCain, and said nothing about his parenting skills or whether he should have been a politician. So no, you were pointing out no duplicity or hypocracy.
Does anyone here really think Palin has or should have a shot in hell at ever getting elected? The best I can come up with is that the left would love to have her on the ticket, cuz then whoever is on the other side is a shoo-in.
ETA - and rightfully so. (no pun intended)
Its because of Palin's different responses. St. Limbaugh can call people retards and Palin's fine with it. Its like bass ackward political correctness. :headshake
In fact, Palin excused Rush Limbaugh explaining that
his use of "retard" was "satire."
And yet....
When a Fox TV show (Family Guy) - a hyper-satirical show - makes a cheap joke about someone with Down Syndrome,
her response is:
This world is full of cruel, cold hearted people, who would do such a thing.
The woman is a walking contradiction. And a partisan moron.
Does anyone here really think Palin has or should have a shot in hell at ever getting elected?
No. I and I don't know anyone who would vote for her either.
In fact, Palin excused Rush Limbaugh explaining that his use of "retard" was "satire."
And yet....
When a Fox TV show (Family Guy) - a hyper-satirical show - makes a cheap joke about someone with Down Syndrome, her response is:
The woman is a walking contradiction. And a partisan moron.
The funny part is, aside from Stewies' song about her, the show doesn't make fun of the girl with downs. It doesn't even make fun of Palin. it just says that the girls' mother used to be Governor of Alaska.
Other than that, it was about a main character falling in love with a girl with downs syndrome.
But Palin being Palin, that cunt is open for anything that will keep her name in the news and anger her tea baggers.
The funny part is, aside from Stewies' song about her, the show doesn't make fun of the girl with downs. It doesn't even make fun of Palin. it just says that the girls' mother used to be Governor of Alaska.
Other than that, it was about a main character falling in love with a girl with downs syndrome.
Come on dude.. :lol:
The episode (which, yes, I have actually seen) was actually an example of equal, non-discriminatory treatment in its purest form--just not the "warm and fuzzy" kind people like to see. The Down's Syndrome girl was portrayed as the opposite of the usual Down's stereotype, therefore showing that people of all kinds are unique beyond their "classification" and have their own personality and character.
I have tried, but I don't remember Palin being mentioned at all.
Well I guess you could make a case for all the Gov's of AK who had kids with Downs Syndrome being easily confused with each other. I saw the episode as well. I wasn't all that bothered by it but I can see why she might be.
I don't remember "all the Gov's of AK who had kids with Downs Syndrome" being mentioned. It must have been a real doozy...
Does anyone here really think Palin has or should have a shot in hell at ever getting elected?
Should? No. Can?
Maybe.
The post you were responding to was about McCain, and said nothing about his parenting skills or whether he should have been a politician. So no, you were pointing out no duplicity or hypocracy.
Bull shit. You have no authority or crystal ball to define my intentions in a post. So no, you are full of shit. When you get the ability to get into any individual posters head and tell us all what their intentions are let me know. There is a whole Congress of scumbags I want you to examine.:rolleyes:
I don't remember "all the Gov's of AK who had kids with Downs Syndrome" being mentioned. It must have been a real doozy...
Guess you never actually saw the episode. Whateva....
Bull shit. You have no authority or crystal ball to define my intentions in a post.
I don't need authority or a crystal ball to read your post, the post it was replying to, or the thread they were in. There was nothing about McCains parenting skills, or his decision to become a senator despite having a family. So no, you were pointing out no duplicity or hypocracy.
I'd need a crystal ball to discover whether you actually believed that you were, but if you did then you were incorrect.
Guess you never actually saw the episode. Whateva....
Bull shit. You have no authority or crystal ball to define my [anything]. So no, you are full of shit.
Bull shit. You have no authority or crystal ball to define my [anything]. So no, you are full of shit.
Fuck off mate. Just admit you never saw it or that you can see how the majority of other people could see that they were talking about Palin. Don't be a dick.
I don't need authority or a crystal ball to read your post, the post it was replying to, or the thread they were in. There was nothing about McCains parenting skills, or his decision to become a senator despite having a family. So no, you were pointing out no duplicity or hypocracy.
I'd need a crystal ball to discover whether you actually believed that you were, but if you did then you were incorrect.
What was the date of the discussion? But you made the Assumption. So you were wrong. It was totally about hypocracy and duplicity.
Fuck off mate. Just admit you never saw it or that you can see how the majority of other people could see that they were talking about Palin. Don't be a dick.
I don't give a fuck about your panties being in a wad because of whatever dumbass bullshit is going on is this thread. Don't call me a liar, TWICE IN A FUCKING ROW you fucking prick. You think I give a shit about some political bullshit that I am going to lie about whether I watch Family Guy? What the fuck planet are you from? I said I don't remember the Palin comment, and in fact, I had to search through about four different Youtube videos before I found it. It wasn't memorable.
Don't let your being in an argument with Happy Monkey let you feel like it is okay to call me a liar, right to my face, after I already indicated that it offended me--because that is NOT okay, you piece of shit. Fuck you, and fuck your stuck-in-a-rut fucking mindset which makes you too goddamn stupid to read and comprehend a simple comment. You can cram whatever your stupid point was up your ass.
I don't give a fuck about your panties being in a wad because of whatever dumbass bullshit is going on is this thread. Don't call me a liar, TWICE IN A FUCKING ROW you fucking prick. You think I give a shit about some political bullshit that I am going to lie about whether I watch Family Guy? What the fuck planet are you from? I said I don't remember the Palin comment, and in fact, I had to search through about four different Youtube videos before I found it. It wasn't memorable.
Don't let your being in an argument with Happy Monkey let you feel like it is okay to call me a liar, right to my face, after I already indicated that it offended me--because that is NOT okay, you piece of shit. Fuck you, and fuck your stuck-in-a-rut fucking mindset which makes you too goddamn stupid to read and comprehend a simple comment. You can cram whatever your stupid point was up your ass.
I guess no one else saw it your way. You are full of shit and you know it. I don't even like Palin. You are the one with your panties in a wad.
After making headlines for calling out Rahm Emanuel for his use of the word "retard," Sarah Palin may have a new target: "Family Guy." The show, which has a history of crossing the line at every opportunity, took a shot at Palin last night, mocking her son with Down syndrome.
In the episode, a main character, Chris, dates a mentally disabled girl. While never mentioning Palin by name, the girl drew a clear comparison to her son, Trig, when she told Chris, "My dad's an accountant, and my mom's the former governor of Alaska."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/15/family-guy-trig-palin-vid_n_462522.htmlI guess no one else saw it your way. You are full of shit and you know it. I don't even like Palin. You are the one with your panties in a wad, fucking liar.
For the record, Rahm Emanuel's use of the word "retard" once with no reference at all to Palin...yet, she was offended.
Then Limbaugh went on a 5-10 minute rampage on his show with "retard" this and "retard" that ..refering to "retards" like 30 times and that did not offend Palin.
WTF?
For the record, Rahm Emanuel's use of the word "retard" once with no reference at all to Palin...yet, she was offended.
Then Limbaugh went on a 5-10 minute rampage on his show with "retard" this and "retard" that ..refering to "retards" like 30 times and that did not offend Palin.
WTF?
As I stated before, Limbaugh is an idiot. So is Rahm it Home Emanuel. That was not the point of this discussion. The point is there is no doubt about the dig that FG was making towards Palin.
You are an idiot. Three times now you've called me a liar because I stated that I don't remember a joke. You obvioulsy are foaming at the mouth so much right now that you somehow think that my statement had anyhting to do with whatever the fuck your point in this thread is, which, incidentally, is something I don't even know or care about in the least. So, congratulations, you are using the ultimate power of the internet to tell me which TV shows I watched at my house, all in the name of some stupid goddamn point which I will blissfully continue to have no idea even exists.
By the way, nice late edit to remove you calling me a liar again, for no discernable goddamn reason.
You are an idiot. Three times now you've called me a liar because I stated that I don't remember a joke. You obvioulsy are foaming at the mouth so much right now that you somehow think that my statement had anyhting to do with whatever the fuck your point in this thread is, which, incidentally, is something I don't even know or care about in the least. So, congratulations, you are using the ultimate power of the internet to tell me which TV shows I watched at my house, all in the name of some stupid goddamn point which I will blissfully continue to have no idea even exists.
By the way, nice late edit to remove you calling me a liar again, for no discernable goddamn reason.
:corn: Yea, I figured you were really not worth it.
An honorable man doesn't act the way you are acting, regardless of whether he is hiding behind the internet. You're calling me a liar (about, incidentally, something which is completely unprovable) and the worst part is you are doing it for no reason. You think you are proving a point, but the only thing you have proven is that you are a shitty person. I will not forget this. Whether you think this matters to you or not, I will never be able to read your posts again without thinking that you are a worthless piece of shit. Great job, great job. You did good today.
An honorable man doesn't act the way you are acting, regardless of whether he is hiding behind the internet. You're calling me a liar (about, incidentally, something which is completely unprovable) and the worst part is you are doing it for no reason. You think you are proving a point, but the only thing you have proven is that you are a shitty person. I will not forget this. Whether you think this matters to you or not, I will never be able to read your posts again without thinking that you are a worthless piece of shit.
:corn:
You have blown this out of proportion, but whatever. I don't have time for your bullshit rants.
Yeah, "whatever" is a substantive response. That fixes it. Hard to imagine why would I get mad about being called, directly and without a trace of ambiguity, a liar, three times in a row, by someone who keeps doing it instead of apologizing like a decent person would do. Regarding something which was a non-point to begin with. Sure, nobody would regard that as an affront to basic human civility. Hope your "point" (whatever it was) was worth it.
So anyway, my theory is that Seth MacFarlane's true dream in life was to be a Broadway song and dance man. Stewie's little musical routines are just his way of acting out that fantasy. And all the characters he voices, for that matter (Stewie's pseudo-British accent just brings the point home).
Yeah, "whatever" is a substantive response. That fixes it. Hard to imagine why would I get mad about being called, directly and without a trace of ambiguity, a liar, three times in a row, by someone who keeps doing it instead of apologizing like a decent person would do. Regarding something which was a non-point to begin with. Sure, nobody would regard that as an affront to basic human civility. Hope your "point" (whatever it was) was worth it.
Nothing I could say or do at this point would fix shit. You have made that evident. Carry on.
You're not even capable of following the breadcrumbs I laid out for you?
Carrying on (again)... So anyway, my theory is that Seth MacFarlane's true dream in life was to be a Broadway song and dance man.
You're not even capable of following the breadcrumbs I laid out for you?
After that diatribe? :lol: fuck off.
Carrying on (third attempt)... So anyway, my theory is that Seth MacFarlane's true dream in life was to be a Broadway song and dance man.
An honorable man doesn't act the way you are acting, regardless of whether he is hiding behind the internet. You're calling me a liar (about, incidentally, something which is completely unprovable) and the worst part is you are doing it for no reason. You think you are proving a point, but the only thing you have proven is that you are a shitty person. I will not forget this. Whether you think this matters to you or not, I will never be able to read your posts again without thinking that you are a worthless piece of shit. Great job, great job. You did good today.
Hey!
I still hold the record of being called a liar, an asshole, a scumbag.....by Merc. You're not getting my gold medal!
He's your typical internet bully....but laughable, because he is so transparent and predictable...and so easy to expose his "facts" and occasionally poke until he has a meltdown.
Everything you else noted is absolutely true.
Hey!
I still hold the record of being called a liar, an asshole, a scumbag.....by Merc. You're not getting my gold medal!
He's your typical internet bully....but laughable, because he is so transparent and predictable...and so easy to expose and occasionally poke until he has a meltdown.
Everything you else noted is absolutely true.
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What you don't have the guts to repeat it?
No meltdown here. Why don't you have the guts to repeat his statements if you support him?
After that diatribe? fuck off.
Why is it that the supporters of George Jr and Cheney, advocates of "Mission Accomplished", posters of so much rhetoric from Limbaugh, promoters of the Liberal verse Conservative mantra, haters of science, advocates of welfare to the rich, and those who deny this economic disaster we all 2000 through 2009 ... why do these same people also post profanity and cheap shots everywhere in the Cellar?
Well that the political agenda promoted by neocons who also said, "We want Obama to fail."
These same neocons did virtually everything they could to protect bin Laden. And (I suspect) they wrap themselves in the American flag everytime they go to bed.
In the episode, a main character, Chris, dates a mentally disabled girl. While never mentioning Palin by name, the girl drew a clear comparison to her son, Trig, when she told Chris, "My dad's an accountant, and my mom's the former governor of Alaska."
No, she was saying, my father was an accountant and my mother was a retard.
No, she was saying, my father was an accountant and my mother was a retard.
bruce with the win!
Who loves 'em some Flint? Er, uh, I mean, Samuel Lapp.
supporters ~snip~ advocates ~snip~ promoters ~snip~ haters ... why do these same people also post profanity and cheap shots everywhere in the Cellar?
One simple question for you tommy - and it only needs a one word answer - yes or no.
Didn't you call a posters wife a "gonorrhea dripping whore"?The Cellar - we provide our own trolls.
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What was the date of the discussion? But you made the Assumption. So you were wrong. It was totally about hypocracy and duplicity.
Shawnee
linked to it, mr "google my sources yourself". I made no assumptions; I read the post. Your post pointed out no duplicity or hypocracy.
Didn't you call a posters wife a "gonorrhea dripping whore"?
As a wacko extremist, you routinely forget relevant facts. Once we discussed your wife's gonorrhea, you suddenly stopped doing incendiary attacks. I do not apologize for slapping you back to civility using the only tone you understand. Posts as equally nasty finally made you civil - for a while. Wackos forget lessons from history. Why should it be necessary for for him to learn again?
Redux has accurately described your political agenda:
To ignore the Clinton "finding" to kill Bin Laden, the Clarke memo, and the disbanding of Alec Station and the diversion of resources from Afghanistan to Iraq.....is the revisionist history and is nothing short of irresponsible and inaccurate.
morethanpretty also described Classicman's political agenda in
Choosing network adapter in the Technology board.
The cheapshot at TW before he ever even posted in this thread was very unwarranted and bad taste. I don't appreciate it in the politics threads (any of the cheap shots taken by anyone), but shit like that needs to stay in those threads. I generally stay away from them because I don't like all the personal attacks. I hate that the politics threads are so immature and unpleasant because of it,
Why does classicman post cheapshots? It works. It makes others (you) not challenge wacko politics. It makes you zone out. Wackoman was caught and exposed lying. Overt and intentional lying. He posted what the political agenda ordered him to believe: Tsonis’ paper as proof of global cooling. Then his lie was exposed by facts:
http://www.cellar.org/showthread.php?p=625815&highlight=anthropogenic#post625815
This sudden climate change was not the point of his paper. Tsonis' paper is about a new simulation technique that maybe only applies to weather changed anthropogenically. Credibility is in the mathematics of his simulation - not in the simulation's result.
wackoman has ratcheted up his personal attacks to a frequency not seen since we had to discuss his family gonorrhea. Cheap shots. Lying. He even denies how his beloved president all but protected bin Laden. Classicman wants Obama to fail. To prove his reality – more aggressive insults and personal attacks.
It was necessary to be as nasty as classicman - to restore civility. Need we relive history? Unchallenged nastiness is how Hitler gained power. Classicman is doing what he was told to do. Nasty cheapshots work because others (ie morethanpretty) will zone out. Do not challenge his lies and personal attacks. Cheapshots work. This time his lies were flagrantly exposed in the Tsonis example. So he escalates his cheapshot attacks to now constant frequency. He forgets why it was necessary to discuss his family gonorrhea. A disease directly traceable to his political agenda.
Ok, to Flint I apologize. I completely miss read your post and made an incorrect assumption. After re-reading it I completely misunderstood what was being said and should not have accused you of being a liar. I was wrong.
Ok, to Flint I apologize. I completely miss read your post and made an incorrect assumption. After re-reading it I completely misunderstood what was being said and should not have accused you of being a liar. I was wrong.
What an asshole! :stickpoke:hide::p::bolt:
TheMercenary... I accept your apology, and that is very awesome of you. I'm sorry I called you names and said bad things about you.
These things happen, no hard feelings on my side. Have a great weekend.
It wasn't my wife tommy-boy. You really should remember who you insult. It might make it easier for you to apologize if you ever become man enough to do so.
For a moment there, this thread was heart warming. Better not blink, or you'll miss it.
TheMercenary... I accept your apology, and that is very awesome of you. I'm sorry I called you names and said bad things about you.
These things happen, no hard feelings on my side. Have a great weekend.
I screwed up and admit it. Cheers.
It wasn't my wife tommy-boy. You really should remember who you insult. It might make it easier for you to apologize if you ever become man enough to do so.
I do not apologize to assholes who only post gonorrhea. When do you apologize for your constant sniping and personal attacks? You cannot. You cannot even admit you do it constantly.
So let;s discuss the gonorrhea you gave to your wife because of your politics. You so want to discuss your diseases. Please do so. Make the Cellar a nasty place because that is your political extremists agenda.
How long will it be before you burn down the Reichstag? Being nasty is how wacko extremists gain power.
Did you intentionally omit this part tommy?
Yes I'm playing Devil's advocate here. Someone has to ask the questions.
tw selectively quotes a post just to make tw's invalid and incorrect point. Boy how much lower can tw go? Oh, thats right tw knows no boundaries. tw will even attack a posters wife if he disagrees with that poster.
For a moment there, this thread was heart warming. Better not blink, or you'll miss it.
FUCK YOU!!!
*blink*
SORRY!!!
*blink*
FUCK YOU!!!
:D
Tom White - If you ever say one word about my wife, I will personally come to Phoenixville, PA and beat the living shit out of you. That is a promise. Please, please try me.
That's threat of assault. You are now using the Cellar to break the law. That is against the first rule of the Cellar:
1. Do not try to break the law using the Cellar.
2. Do not try to break the Cellar.
3. Do not be "intolerably irritating".
I deleted it and apologize.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7zvGGSkLe0An interesting twist.
Yes, but you see that actress with downs syndrome isn't a politician trying to hustle a buck, so she's allowed to have a sense of humor.
Yes, but you see that actress with downs syndrome isn't a politician trying to hustle a buck, so she's allowed to have a sense of humor.
Ever been to a casting call? ALL actors are politicians trying to hustle a buck. lol!!!
Thanks for that link, Shel.
Here's the text, for those who didn't watch the video:
'Family Guy' Actress Responds To Sarah Palin's Criticism
My name is Andrea Fay Friedman. I was born with Down syndrome. I played the role of Ellen on the "Extra Large Medium" episode of Family Guy that was broadcast on Valentine's day. Although they gave me red hair on the show, I am really a blonde. I also wore a red wig for my role in " Smudge" but I was a blonde in "Life Goes On". I guess former Governor Palin does not have a sense of humor. I thought the line "I am the daughter of the former governor of Alaska" was very funny. I think the word is "sarcasm".
In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and votes.
And there's more...
‘Family Guy’ Voice Actor Says Palin ‘Does Not Have a Sense of Humor’
Q.When you get asked to play characters who have Down syndrome, does that make you at all uncomfortable?
A.No, I’m proud of it. I’m not embarrassed. But mostly, it doesn’t matter if you have Down syndrome. Really, it just matters to have a different challenge.
Q.When did you find out about the reaction that the episode elicited from Sarah Palin and her family?
A.[laughs] That I did not even know about until my mom told me, “You’re on Channel 4!” And when I watched on Channel 4, on “Extra,” and I saw Sarah Palin with her son Trig. I’m like, “I’m not Trig. This is my life.” I was making fun of Sarah Palin, but not her son.
Q.Do you agree with what she and her daughter Bristol were saying, that the character and the jokes were insulting to people with Down syndrome?
A.It’s not really an insult. I was doing my role, I’m an actor. I’m entitled to say something. It was really funny. I was laughing at it. I had a nice time doing voiceover. It was my first time doing a voiceover, and I had fun.
I think this speaks to my point about whether the show was offensive or not. As for the S____ P____, the attention whore who is trying to ride the free publicity bandwagon, the reference to her carried neither positive nor negative connotations, as far as I can tell.
Another non-event.
My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and votes.
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:lol:
Interesting. Thanks for the info, Flint. I wonder if Palin knew that it was an actress with Down's doing the voice-over?
Family Guy’ Voice Actor Says Palin ‘Does Not Have a Sense of Humor’
Is this the same TV show that did this? He sniffs her perfume. Says it makes her smell like Elizabeth Taylor. Then says it smells like a combination of bourbon and vicodin. Why is that also not causing major turmoil? Apparently the public figure called Palin is more 'special' than Elizabeth Taylor.
Is old Liz even still alive? Never mind. I soundly protest on behalf of druggies and alcoholics everywhere. We need more understanding and more access to our drugs of choice. We don't need these sly barbs equating us to Liz Taylor. I bet when I tell my AA group about this tonight, they'll all be joining me at the bar. Fttttttt!
Is old Liz even still alive?
She outlived her good friend Michael.
Who is your favorite vicodin addict? Taylor or House? (Palin is banned from this list due to threat of lawsuit or public outcry.)
Definitely House. I'm watching House as I type.
What was it lumberjim said... "I love a funny tw"
House for sure. ;)
Actually, my fav druggie was Bill the Cat from the old Bloom County comic strip. Steve Dallas of that strip was a pretty good drunk, too. They both were so totally not PC. Whatever happened to the Cellar's Steve Dallas, anyhow?
Like her running partner McCain, she'll do anything and everything to get political power. She'd like nothing better than to attract tons of Jewish money (campaign contributions, a.k.a. bribes) to get into national office and then sell influence to all the special interests out there, including international corporations of course. These phony conservatives, the "neocons", make me sick. A true conservative follows the Constitution and tries to serve the American National People, while keeping cognizance of the Common Law and the Law of Nations. For a true conservative, Keynesian economics is anathema, as is "free trade", or any other kind of international meddling. True conservatives aren't afraid to explain their policies in detail to the public. They HAVE policies, real policies, not just following instructions like Obama. Kennedy's mistake was he thought he really was president, and he tried to actually stand up for his country. He listened to General MacArthur and Sen. McCarthy. He was also trying to bring the CIA and Federal Reserve Bank under control.
These were all FATAL mistakes!
Welcome to the Cellar, BobbyBoyNYC. :D
....She'd like nothing better than to attract tons of Jewish money (campaign contributions, a.k.a. bribes) to get into national office...!
The secret Jewish/Zionist cabal....we are everywhere. :D
Hi Bobby and :welcome: to the cellar.
Hallo Bobby:) Nice to have you on board :P
I am, however, slightly disturbed by the 'Jewish money' aspect of your post; especially when the same post contains the phrase 'American National People'.
I am aware, though, that my own particular political outlook and history can make me oversensitive to such things. Perhaps you could explain and set me straight :P
Ok, Palin is making me ill. She says she needs to be part of the Tea Party and Take over the Republickin party. [gag]
Ok, Palin is making me ill. She says she needs to be part of the Tea Party and Take over the Republickin party. [gag]
A curious fact in polls at that tea party conventions. People such as Palin only got a 40% approval rating. But Limbaugh and Beck got in excess of 70% approval. Which begs the question who the tea party wants for president. Also begs the question, are they promoting solutions or just promoting negativity and destruction?
Insofar as, say, Glenn Beck is a "good-government" guy, he resonates with the TEA Partiers who are primarily good-government -- balanced budgets, stable currency, national security rather than unreasonable facsimiles thereof -- proponents. Sure, some propeller-beanies show up at the rallies -- but contrariwise every tinfoil hat I've seen at these was worn in jest and mockery. TEA partiers run pretty humorous rallies anyway. They oughtta set up potlucks.
...if she has no connection to reality?
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20354193,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+people%2Fheadlines+%28PEOPLE.com%3A+Top+Headlines%29
Sarah Palin to Host Alaska Reality-TV Series
By Sandra Sobieraj Westfall
Wednesday March 24, 2010 11:50 AM EDT
Sarah Palin
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Facebook Twitter Yahoo Buzz E-mail Good news for Those Who Can't Get Enough of Saran Palin: The former Alaska governor – who's now a Fox News commentator, best-selling memoirist and Republican campaign machine – has a deal in the bag with the Discovery Channel, a source at the network confirms to PEOPLE.
According to everyone from Variety to The Washington Post, the series Sarah Palin's Alaska has been picked up for a reported $1-million-plus per episode.
Variety says Palin's project with reality-TV rainmaker Mark Burnett "will center on interesting characters, traditions and attractions in the 49th state – with the ex-VP candidate as a guide."
A spokesman for Palin referred questions to Burnett's office, which did not return requests for comment. Neither did a Discovery spokesperson.
I dunno, Sheldon -- the people who most lack a connection with la Palin seem also a pretty unreal lot themselves. Certainly not the sort I'd take any advice from; they think too much like Radar, regardless of their specific opinions -- the manner is the same, the lack of people skills not too different.
