Attention, Shawnee:
While playing fuckaround with Lumberjim, I said something about you that I really shouldn't have said. Seeing as how the insult was public, the apology should be public as well. The "knob" comment was a reference to cheerleading, not the actual sexual act...though looking at what I wrote, I can see how you would not take it in the way that I meant it. Still, neither meaning was warranted, and I was definitely over the line, and I sincerely apologize.
I do not, of course, expect this to change your opinion of me, or somehow fix the hurt feelings and anger you expressed in the "red alert" thread, but you have my apology all the same.
How about me, Mr. Reconciliation? Am I still offering sexual favors to lumberjim for booting you out of chat, or was that a mistake too? For the record, I asked that you be kicked out because I was having a lovely evening with my friends, something I don't get to do often, and you strut in clearly looking for a shit-stirring. Chat is for friends. Make some friends here, and you may find it a more pleasant experience.
How about me, Mr. Reconciliation? Am I still offering sexual favors to lumberjim for booting you out of chat, or was that a mistake too? For the record, I asked that you be kicked out because I was having a lovely evening with my friends, something I don't get to do often, and you strut in clearly looking for a shit-stirring. Chat is for friends. Make some friends here, and you may find it a more pleasant experience.
I didn't say anything about you offering sexual favors, did I? The way I remember it, I stated that Jim was acting in a "White Knight" fashion with that expectation...obviously hyperbole, and no mention of YOUR motivations was stated or implied.
All I know is that I replied to something Jim said about an old fight between he and Tiki, and you started yelling for me to be banned. I am sure Jim can access the chatlogs to demonstrate this, should it prove to be necessary.
http://www.cellar.org/showpost.php?p=596889&postcount=69
Yes, that is the subject I am apologizing to Shawnee about. Your point?
I didn't say anything about you offering sexual favors, did I? The way I remember it, I stated that Jim was acting in a "White Knight" fashion with that expectation...obviously hyperbole, and no mention of YOUR motivations was stated or implied.
Right.
Did you impress Clodfobble with your enormous epenis?
I mean, I watched you have a flash of integrity "meh", etc, then I was banned. So, did your caving in get you some epussy?
Thing is, I believe you honestly don't remember saying or implying it. Because you're fundamentally not interested in other people, or making friends. Which is precisely why you don't belong in chat.
All I know is that I replied to something Jim said about an old fight between he and Tiki, and you started yelling for me to be banned. I am sure Jim can access the chatlogs to demonstrate this, should it prove to be necessary.
Three posts in, you were aggressively discussing "double standards." You were looking for a fight. There was no fight going on before you entered. There was not one after you were kicked out. I am happy with this chain of events.
Right.
Thing is, I believe you honestly don't remember saying or implying it. Because you're fundamentally not interested in other people, or making friends. Which is precisely why you don't belong in chat.
Actually, it's because I'm typically fucked up on weird drugs. Of course, I'm an asshole when I'm not on the pills, so that's an excuse for the memory issue, not the behavior.
Now, that WAS directed at Jim, but you WERE involved, so yes, I do owe you an apology, so I do apologize.
Three posts in, you were aggressively discussing "double standards." You were looking for a fight. There was no fight going on before you entered. There was not one after you were kicked out. I am happy with this chain of events.
Actually, no, I showed up to say hi to Zip, and Jim jumped me over some old shit in which I was expected to take responsibility for someone else's actions. It's in the logs.
Zip wasn't in chat last night. So I guess you shouldn't mind that you didn't get to hang around then.
Where's my fucking apology you bastard?! I recognized your handle when I happened upon the chat on this site... Are you going to trash this like you did to my board??? I mean who the hell fucks with a miscarriage support board?! WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?!!!!!! YOU FUCKING PIG!!! GET CANCER AND DIE!!
Tiggr was already logged into chat when Jim and I got there last night. Didn't mention zippy, but was annoyed that C-man didn't take the bait of his obama troll thread. He also seemed genuinely surprised that UT didn't want to be his BFF.
Apparently it's been slow over at PD because a whole bunch of them popped in.
Tiggr was already logged into chat when Jim and I got there last night. Didn't mention zippy, but was annoyed that C-man didn't take the bait of his obama troll thread. He also seemed genuinely surprised that UT didn't want to be his BFF.
Apparently it's been slow over at PD because a whole bunch of them popped in.
He's a bastard. I hate him.
Tiggr was already logged into chat when Jim and I got there last night. Didn't mention zippy, but was annoyed that C-man didn't take the bait of his obama troll thread. He also seemed genuinely surprised that UT didn't want to be his BFF.
Apparently it's been slow over at PD because a whole bunch of them popped in.
Troll thread? Troll by virtue of my having posted it, I presume?
He's a bastard. I hate him.
Back in your box.
Back in your box.
Good God.
You mean that infighting from last night? That shit was nasty.
I mean, I certainly got it out of context, but still. That room was filled with hatebad.
He's a bastard. I hate him.
I'd like to be the first to welcome our newest Dweller, Marisa Tomei.
/obscure...
Kids, you better start playing nice or I will turn this thread right around and go home!
While playing fuckaround with Lumberjim
Is that anything like reacharound?
Is that anything like reacharound?
Maybe.
Is that anything like reacharound?
Remember kids, a reacharound is different from a Rusty Trombone, which is completely different from a Dirty Sanchez.
Apology withdrawn. I can't justify apologizing to racists.
Surely your experiences on your own board would lead you to the conclusion that it's hard for an outsider to understand someone's sense of humor without getting to know them first?
Surely your experiences on your own board would lead you to the conclusion that it's hard for an outsider to understand someone's sense of humor without getting to know them first?
Dunno. It's all too much for a poor "darkie" like myself. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go put on my gaudy clothes and get out on the porch with my banjo. We're happier amongst our own kind, you know, and it's bad for us to get airs.
40 acres and a mule. Jesus H Christ.
Right dude. And joking about miscarriages is funny too. Your superior moral position is clear, no doubt.
:headshake Those fuzzy wuzzies
They don't like it up em!
Right dude. And joking about miscarriages is funny too. Your superior moral position is clear, no doubt.
I did nothing of the kind.
Would you please make an effort to be more honest?
No, what you didn't do was actually go to a miscarriage support board and harass them. What you did do was laugh amiably about the idea that your friends would act as if you had, as a joke at your expense. You found their joke about miscarriages funny and reveled in it; ergo you joked about miscarriages.
Which, for the record, I don't have a problem with in this specific case. I also don't have a problem with lumberjim's indirect reference to making fun of black people without actually making fun of real black people.
Face it, you don't have a leg to stand on in this argument--oooh, wait, you're not paraplegic are you? :thepain:
No, what you didn't do was actually go to a miscarriage support board and harass them. What you did do was laugh amiably about the idea that your friends would act as if you had, as a joke at your expense.
So, what am I going to do, Clodfobble? Rag two of my friends out for the sake of a bunch of people who made up their minds to hate us a full year ago? In public? For YOU?
LAWL.
Yeah, good luck with that. After the last few days - and your lack of class earlier in this thread - I wouldn't piss down your neck if your heart was on fire. This racism hilarity is funnier than hell, though, and the fact that you're defending them for this behavior by drawing false equivalences just makes it funnier.
Which, for the record, I don't have a problem with in this specific case. I also don't have a problem with lumberjim's indirect reference to making fun of black people without actually making fun of real black people.
As opposed to fake Black people? Or are you saying that Blacks aren't real people? Not sure what you're getting at, there.
Actually, I think the butt of the joke was segregationists, not black people.
Actually, I think the butt of the joke was segregationists, not black people.
Actually, I think the butt was "darkies", as the segregation of the rooms is considered by the three of them to be a good thing.
Struck me as an ironic comment by Monnie, which Jim responded to by taking on the persona of a southern segregationist.
Mind you, Monnie's a Brit. We do irony.
After the last few days - and your lack of class earlier in this thread
[citation needed][citation needed]
You demanded an apology. I proffered one. You ignored it.
You have an astounding lack of class, Clodfobble. You should do something about that.
You guys are not trying hard enough to ignore Rog.
You guys are not trying hard enough to ignore Rog.
Clodfobble lacks the self-discipline. Shows a lack of character, which is consistent with her classless behavior earlier in the thread.
So, what am I going to do, Clodfobble? Rag two of my friends out for the sake of a bunch of people who made up their minds to hate us a full year ago? In public? For YOU?
You claimed to desire vengeance on them. You have not been playing very well.
You demanded an apology. I proffered one. You ignored it.
Honestly, I didn't realize it needed acknowledgement--I read it, and accepted it. I'm sorry that seemed like I was ignoring it. I did appreciate your change of heart.
I would like to point out, however, that most people don't leap all the way to "I wouldn't piss down your neck if your heart was on fire" just because they feel like they've been ignored. You are once again displaying erratic emotional jumps that simply have no basis in what is actually being said. Some of us prefer friendliness over drama.
You claimed to desire vengeance on them. You have not been playing very well.
Sure, and vengeance I will have.
But not for the entertainment of scum like Clodfobble. Not going to air any dirty laundry in front of her or MTP, Monster, Jinx, Jim, Shawnee, etc.
First, it just isn't done. Second, I would hate for any of them to have the satisfaction, given their fucked up behavior. Particularly Jim, MTP, Clodfapper, and Monster.
You guys are not trying hard enough to ignore Rog.
Sorry about that. I figured I'd give him another chance after I got him booted so quickly from chat the other night. I was hoping there might be a genuine person under the persona.
Honestly, I didn't realize it needed acknowledgement--I read it, and accepted it. I'm sorry that seemed like I was ignoring it. I did appreciate your change of heart.
I would like to point out, however, that most people don't leap all the way to "I wouldn't piss down your neck if your heart was on fire" just because they feel like they've been ignored. You are once again displaying erratic emotional jumps that simply have no basis in what is actually being said. Some of us prefer friendliness over drama.
Naw, I've reached that point because of what happened last year, followed by the insane behavior of certain cellar dwellers this year, topped by the notion you floated that I am responsible for something I never said, and that Jim is not responsible for things he DID say.
Completely unprincipled. So the idea that someone can be acceptably left hanging after they issue an apology comes as no great shock.
I was hoping there might be a genuine person under the persona.
No you weren't. You and a few others here have acted to dehumanize ever PDer you've come across, some of you since the very first time we've met (that psychopath Classicman comes to mind, during the "reverse Safari" last year).
Completely unprincipled. So the idea that someone can be acceptably left hanging after they issue an apology comes as no great shock.
I can only assume you are equally incensed that Shawnee123 hasn't entered the thread to officially accept her apology either.
I can only assume you are equally incensed that Shawnee123 hasn't entered the thread to officially accept her apology either.
I no longer view Shawnee as a human being, given her level of participation in the "darkie"/segregation business.
However, she had not solicited an apology from me, and was under no obligation, morally or otherwise, to respond. I would have, in her shoes, but it's not the same as demanding an apology with the intent to humiliate, as you seem to have.
Soylent green is made of people.
Soylent green is made of people.
Well, it's a good thing the PDers aren't people then.
But we "smell funny".
Things must be very dull at PD Towers for you guys to be this interested in fucking wid us.
Things must be very dull at PD Towers for you guys to be this interested in fucking wid us.
Actually, this is only about 10% of us. The other 90% of PD couldn't give a shit less about this.
'you guys' = the people who are here from PD - not the whole of PD.
I can't really be arsed when new people screw up your perfect equilibrium by virtue of bring new people. Most of you guys don't even bother talking to us in the first place, so what difference does it make? New people join, they get their own room, you guys continue doing whatever you were doing in another public room.
I'd simply question why this board itself is public, or open to new registration, in the first place.
'us guys' = the people who visited PD at any time - not even 5% of Cellar.
'us guys' = the people who visited PD at any time - not even 5% of Cellar.
Point?
Rog threatened a PD Army denial-of-service attack against the entire Cellar during a misunderstanding over five Cellar users' participation at PD and his participation at the Cellar. (No Cellar folks returned the threat, nor would we I imagine.)
So when he complains "oh but that wasn't all of us" one can only assume he hasn't thought through the bigger picture. It's "all of us" when he wants it to be, even though it's rarely "all of us" in any case.
This is an interesting spiral we're in, now. Undertoad has stated that IP fuckery is fair game, so we are doing the same for every member of the Cellar that has ever posted at PD or #discord. Both "sides" have technically competent people and/or an unlimited supply of proxies. Both sides have the vast majority of their boards uninterested in the squabble, but likely to get splashed with shit anyway.
Ought to be good for a laugh, anyway.
Rog threatened a PD Army denial-of-service attack
Actually, I threatened to spam the fuck out of the place. To be precise.
Your actual words were "You'd have to reset the board."
Is it all of us now?
Rog threatened a PD Army denial-of-service attack
lol no
You guys are kind of posting at cross-purposes now, aren't you?
Individual spamming the board =/= mass DDOS on behalf of pd.com
Your actual words were "You'd have to reset the board."
Is it all of us now?
It is now. Since member's personal information is now fair game, both here and at PD.
Isn't this awesome, UT? We're all now at the mercy of the least stable person involved. Historically, that's been Jim.
says the admittedly over-medicated peyote user
Individual spamming the board =/= mass DDOS on behalf of pd.com
Who cares? UT has declared open season on peoples' personal information. What's a little spamming next to that? Maria's busy datamining like a madwoman as we speak.
I bet Reagan used to feel like this, back in the day. You know, wondering when - not if - one side or the other will overreact or just start the ball rolling for no good reason.
says the admittedly over-medicated peyote user
Keeps the Boojums away.
But at least I wasn't posting peoples' PI in the chatroom.
Notice the past tense. There is precisely zero guarantee that this trend will continue.
Oh well, that's just swell. We're exchanging threats now.
Ffs.
Ftr Tgrr, I believe that apology you started with was well-meant. Also ftr: I don't care. You've been perfectly friendly to me, so this really isn't personal: but I don't see anything good coming from you being here. You or the little gang you have sitting in Chat. Again, nobody was hostile to me: again, I don't care.
Your presence here is a negative thing.
a town in a state that was probably inaccurate ( judging by where it thinks I come from) is hardly personal information, Roger, you insufferable cunt.
you've repeatedly demonstrated that you have no concern for the truth, and that your main goal is to troll.
I think that the repeated threats you've made at this point are sufficient cause to IP ban you. This is a privately owned board with ONE owner. If you attempt to harm it or the people that frequent it because of your imagined offense at one user's behavior, then you are clearly crazier than Tiki.
Who cares? UT has declared open season on peoples' personal information. What's a little spamming next to that? Maria's busy datamining like a madwoman as we speak.
I bet Reagan used to feel like this, back in the day. You know, wondering when - not if - one side or the other will overreact or just start the ball rolling for no good reason.
I figured UT might have posted that in some critical lapse of judgment.
He's usually a pretty level guy as I've come to know him.
Oh well, that's just swell. We're exchanging threats now.
Ffs.
Ftr Tgrr, I believe that apology you started with was well-meant. Also ftr: I don't care. You've been perfectly friendly to me, so this really isn't personal: but I don't see anything good coming from you being here. You or the little gang you have sitting in Chat. Again, nobody was hostile to me: again, I don't care.
Your presence here is a negative thing.
Yeah, it's just kind of spiraling down, isn't it?
Funny thing is, this all started because I dropped into chat to say hi to Zip and Jim. That's honest to God all I had in mind.
And yet here we are today.
But it's kind of an obsession, too, isn't it? You don't LIKE the Cellar, you don't TRUST the people who run parts of it, yet you desperately want to remain here.
I believe you Tgrr. But it is spiralling down. And we are here today.
a town in a state that was probably inaccurate ( judging by where it thinks I come from) is hardly personal information, Roger, you insufferable cunt.
you've repeatedly demonstrated that you have no concern for the truth, and that your main goal is to troll.
I think that the repeated threats you've made at this point are sufficient cause to IP ban you. This is a privately owned board with ONE owner. If you attempt to harm it or the people that frequent it because of your imagined offense at one user's behavior, then you are clearly crazier than Tiki.
Thanks and I'mma let you finish, but UT did one of the best IP bans of all time.
OF ALL TIME!
a town in a state that was probably inaccurate ( judging by where it thinks I come from) is hardly personal information, Roger, you insufferable cunt.
You used the IP function of the board to state some peoples' location, in an attempt to intimidate them. No other explanation for your behavior makes any sense.
As a result, I have stated my intention if this continues. If you choose to take this as a threat, go right ahead.
But it's kind of an obsession, too, isn't it? You don't LIKE the Cellar, you don't TRUST the people who run parts of it, yet you desperately want to remain here.
At the moment, I'd walk away if I thought it was possible. However, the idea that our PI is now up for grabs complicates things.
cloned dogs are hellbeasts and spawn of satan
They will suffer the wrath of God
cloned dogs are hellbeasts and spawn of satan
They will suffer the wrath of God
No, that's cats.
Puppies!
Cloned
puppies of 911 hero dog!
We all understand that this is just attempted lulz-producing behavior on your part, so if you quietly left I'm sure nothing would happen with your information, or anyone else's.
We all understand that this is just attempted lulz-producing behavior on your part, so if you quietly left I'm sure nothing would happen with your information, or anyone else's.
On MY part?
If you quietly left I'm sure nothing would happen with your information, or anyone else's.
It's OK, we all understand.
Okay. Guess the talking is done.
If you quietly left I'm sure nothing would happen with your information, or anyone else's.
You know, a quicker way of going about this would be users -> ban user, but I like your way of doing it. Really efficient, and you get to swing your dick around more.
That's a really good point, Id.
Maybe there is a way to bury the hatchet, make a new start and just be friendly one to another?
As a person on the fringe I see by the accounts there is error on both sides. Since I am not involved emotionally I just see two groups of people with an axe to grind.
No you weren't. You and a few others here have acted to dehumanize ever PDer you've come across, some of you since the very first time we've met
that sucks
Surely your experiences on your own board would lead you to the conclusion that it's hard for an outsider to understand someone's sense of humor without getting to know them first?
true
very true
...or perhaps they could just go away and stay away. They come around every few months when they get bored of each other.
Originally Posted by TGRR
No you weren't. You and a few others here have acted to dehumanize ever PDer you've come across, some of you since the very first time we've met
I don't know if I should call this freaking idiot a crybaby or a just a stupid cunt.
I should let it lie and enjoy the silence. ;)
This is all so last year...
....
The sound of silence...
Simon & Garfunkel?
Sound of SilenceMind you, Monnie's a Brit. We do irony.
Good.
Here are two shirts and a suit.
Remember to roll-press the sleeves.
Oooooooooh!
Spanked!
Not that I'd pay to see that or anything...
