Why nasty?
"Let them eat sand", "Let them die", "execute them", "Nuke 'em", "bomb them back to the stone age", "those lazy bastards don't deserve welfare", etc.
Why do conservatives always try to come across as tough, nasty, callous, "people" with no compassion or the ability to put themselves in another's circumstances?
I think, somehow, it elevates them. "Look how tough I am."
It takes a really tough and strong person to show compassion. It takes guts to care.
A cop-out is to say all the nasty things and pretend one's bravado is what sets one apart from the "bleeding hearts."
Inside, they're scared to death. This is their wall, which must afford them some small comfort. I don't buy it, though.
Let me make it simple. I'm fiscal conservative and I hate you all. ;)
We could probably go off on some all too long argument about what a real conservative or a liberal is, then move into who hates babies and kicks more puppies, then veer into who is more American and compassionate, before winding up at the inevitable "You insensitive bastard my dog died under a falling giraffe saddle on 9/11!".
I would, however, on a somewhat serious note point out that your premise ("why do conservatives always...") is just as ridiculous as UG's anti-liberal rhetoric or Merc's "demoncrats" posts. People are people regardless of creed. Some are compassionate and caring some are heartless assholes. Welcome to humanity.
Thanks lookout, and I'mma let you finish, but Greenspan is one of the most compassionless people of all time.
Compassionless? who cares about that, the guy didn't even do his job well and that is the part I care about.
My parents read a conservative paper.
It has its own memes, one of which is that left wing loonies love rules. Anyone with even a slight liberal bent is trying to make life as joyless as possible for everyone. They don't say so precisely (any more) but the idea is that England will become like Russia under Communism if anyone with any kind of socialism in their agenda is allowed to have their way.
So I am wary of painting with broad strokes.
Thanks lookout, and I'mma let you finish, but Greenspan is one of the most compassionless people of all time.
Hahhahahaha---haggis.
That made me chortle a lot.
"Let them eat sand", "Let them die", "execute them", "Nuke 'em", "bomb them back to the stone age", "those lazy bastards don't deserve welfare", etc.
Why do conservatives always try to come across as tough, nasty, callous, "people" with no compassion or the ability to put themselves in another's circumstances?
True, true...but the liberals are just as bad. They just wring their hands a little more before they harpoon you in the back and go back to their soy lattes.
Compassionless? who cares about that, the guy didn't even do his job well and that is the part I care about.
Sure he did.
It's just that he wasn't, you know, working for you and I.
He wasn't working for I? He ain't not?
He wasn't working for I? He ain't not?
He ran the banking system. Of course he wasn't working in your best interests.
From the POV of the board of directors of the banks, however, he did a GREAT job.
I was referring to your poor grammar. I don't give a hoot about your opinions.[/grammarnazi]
I was referring to your poor grammar. I don't give a hoot about your opinions.[/grammarnazi]
Which poor grammar? I thought you were just having a trailer park moment.
Working for you. Working for me. Working for you and me.
As you were, smartest man on earth.
Working for you. Working for me. Working for you and me.
As you were, smartest man on earth.
Oh, what WOULD my 3rd grade teacher say? :sniff:
Probably that you need to repeat 3rd grade.
Probably that you need to repeat 3rd grade.
Probably. I was all fucked up on drugs the first time around, IIRC.
some things never change
True, true.
You can basically replace anything I say with "I'm all fucked up on little yellow pills".
What's your excuse?
True, true.
You can basically replace anything I say with "I'm all fucked up on little yellow pills".
What's your excuse?
little blue pills?
little blue pills?
Okay, I'll buy that.
Cypher: I know what you're thinking, 'cause right now I'm thinking the same thing. Actually, I've been thinking it ever since I got here: Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?
Cypher: I know what you're thinking, 'cause right now I'm thinking the same thing. Actually, I've been thinking it ever since I got here: Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?
What if you took BOTH?
What if you took BOTH?
they'd mash up into a green pill? Cool.
And then you could be off to see the Wizard?
He wasn't working for I? He ain't not?
Haggis:D
...I would, however, on a somewhat serious note point out that your premise ("why do conservatives always...") is just as ridiculous as UG's anti-liberal rhetoric or Merc's "demoncrats" posts. People are people regardless of creed. Some are compassionate and caring some are heartless assholes. Welcome to humanity.
Fair enough. But have you ever heard a bleeding heart liberal say something like "nuke 'em" or "they're not getting any of my money - let them starve"?
"they're not getting any of my money - let them starve"?
Damm. Who said that?
Prolly you, merc. ;)
:lol: I doubt I ever said I wanted someone to starve. Well I mean other than the trolls from PD. :lol2:
I wanna lose 10 pounds, can you throw some 'starvin' mojo' my way? :lol:
Hell, I wanna lose 20. :D
I wanna lose 10 pounds, can you throw some 'starvin'[COLOR="Red"] hobo[/COLOR]' my way? :lol:
fixed that for ya
Well crap, c-man, you almost made diet coke come out my nose.
Anyway, it wouldn't work. I'll chop up and cook ANY hobo, no matter the meatiness or lack thereof.
Shawnee, everyone knows the hobo diet is the best around...even better than Atkins, they say.
There was some good eatin on old Doc Atkins but free range hobo is healthier.
Have you noticed conservatives are getting more pessimistic these days?
Pissy-mystics?
Hail FSM:fsm:
I'd like to poke you in the eye with my finger
Working for you. Working for me. Working for you and me.
As you were, smartest man on earth.
I'm with Shawnee.
Whether or not you want it that way, in English, the pronouns decline -- as in every other language in the Germanic group. Pronouns have an objective case when they are the objects of verbs and prepositions, and only second-person pronouns singular or plural show no visible change. First- and third-person pronouns do, mostly.
So
do avoid incomprehensible solecisms (that they occur at all among normally intelligent adult native speakers being the incomprehensible part) such as "between her and I."
Frankly that sort of thing is tough on my tooth enamel.
Have you noticed conservatives are getting more pessimistic these days?
No. And I know more conservatives than you do, and better besides.
What kind of pessimist goes to TEA parties, Spexx?
No. And I know more conservatives than you do, and better besides.
What kind of pessimist goes to TEA parties, Spexx?
A tea baggee.
That's no answer, and why did you think it might be?
That's no answer, and why did you think it might be?
Because you like having scrotums draped across your face.
Spexx! When you are talking to UG, remember, he insists on scrota being draped across his face...
Actually, that's not something I insist on, being broadminded and not terribly difficult to amuse... ;)
Actually, that's not something I insist on, being broadminded and not terribly difficult to amuse... ;)
Broadminded. Is that what happens when someone spreads their cheeks as they sit on your face?
:corn:
I love these guys! ;)
:corn:
I love these guys! ;)
Do you think it's one person, playing both parts? TWUG?
All hail TWUG. He is like the everypolitician.
I've been telling you that for years.
let me tell you how to properly cook an MBA.
...first, you take a leek....
let me tell you how to properly cook an MBA.
...first, you take a leek....
Ask your doctor about Flomax if uninary symptoms are impacting your recipe writing.
let me tell you how to properly cook an MBA.
...first, you take a leek....
MPMs do it with gusto.
Particularly those of us who specialized in anti-guerrilla and anti-mercenary strategies and tactics.
let me tell you how to properly cook an MBA.
...first, you take a leek....
Heat oil to 350 degrees...
Do you think it's one person, playing both parts? TWUG?
"I am quite convinced that I do in fact exist," said Spock.
I'm also more than you can handle, Spexx. I'm realer than you are or can be, I'm smarter than you are through not being a hoplophobe and therefore able to ratiocinate (phobias negate thought, you know -- and have shown), and I'm saner than you are too. Better-than-you looks and sounds like me. As long as you labor under your debits, it shall always be that way. You being bad is by no means necessary to me feeling good; I'd rather hail Spexxvet as a good man than bash him as a bad one, but I don't always get just what I want, do I?
Tw's image, of course, just follows his spherical-asshole nature. That guy doesn't believe in
anything that's good. He also thinks he can bother me by exhibiting this side of his mentality. No effective intelligence seen there.
what?
i mean ....i got tha part about you being smarter and better than spex....but ..duh...who isn't? ...but the rest of it???? whacky man...whacky.
Just an old silverback preening his fur and bellowing about being king of the jungle, mostly.
...I'm also more than you can handle, Spexx. I'm realer than you are or can be, I'm smarter than you are through not being a hoplophobe and therefore able to ratiocinate (phobias negate thought, you know -- and have shown), and I'm saner than you are too. Better-than-you looks and sounds like me....
And 100 times more humble, right, you moron?
Tw's image, of course, just follows his spherical-asshole nature...
Unlike a cubical asshole, like you.
I've reached the point where I just skip over UG's posts. I have my own issues with psychosis without adding his in. :rolleyes:
Don't skip them, they are comedy gold. He's the wacky neighbor in every sitcom you've ever seen.
I'm forming a tw fan club. Wanna join? ;)
I'm forming a tw fan club. Wanna join? ;)
Only if it is for target shooting.
Yeah, tw is strictly on the bottom of the totem pole. He processes emotion like a toddler. Not out of line at age four, grotesque for a man in his fifties.
Radar has the same problem, but his emotional development got arrested at a later age -- I'd suppose about six. He has held it in close confinement since, not recognizing that he has grown a personality that forbids and neutralizes thought.
And 100 times more humble, right, you moron?
Humble... no. I just think it's too bad I can't cure you through the Internet. I have one phobia -- weaponry isn't it, and I don't run down the checklist of psychopeculiarities that you display that are listed in
Raging Against Self Defense archived on JPFO's site. No, on self defense I am always going to be both wiser and more moral than you are, for I approve of it unreservedly.
Unlike a cubical asshole, like you.
Childish and pettish much? You are so very consumed by your resentments. I show quality, you get bitter, is that it? Now for a contrasting example, do I sound consumed by resentments when I write?
When will you behave like a man, not a child? When will you show quality? When will you show courage? A courageous man in the full fire of his convictions would have at least offered to drop by my place and personally stick that gun barrel up my ass the other month or so ago, assuming the risk that it might not be you doing the sticking, but you couldn´t manage even that much gumption, passively expressing the hope some anonymous someone might do it, sparing you the effort to accomplish what you desired enough to spend time writing about it.
I see the pattern of your life's philosophy. It is unfortunate.
I'm forming a tw fan club. Wanna join? ;)
I'm in, after all the entertainment he's provided me, it's the least I can do. :thumb:
Aaand Spexxvet retreats, abashed and silent. Happens fairly often.
Aaand Spexxvet retreats, abashed and silent. Happens fairly often.
UG...you mean like you retreated and gone MIA and silent on your claims of
Obama/Democrats as socialists....or.....
gun control leads to genocide?
Hmmmm..who is the master of not so urbane hit and run guerrilla tactics and unwilling or unable to defend his positions?
Aaand Spexxvet retreats, abashed and silent. Happens fairly often.
No, I just stopped reading your posts. Except this one.
Try holding one of UG's posts up to your ear. You can hear the ocean.
Oh no, I've not retreated one step, Redux. I am composing the essay, and it will be devastating to any idea that you can do genocide without gun control in place. This happens sometimes decades in advance. Thus, if you are truly anti-genocide, you will be anti gun control as well. If you are not truly antigenocide, as for instance Spexx is... well, I'm sure you see what I'm driving at.
Whether it arrives instantly or tardily, what is truth is still truth. I know some truth, and you haven't studied. Who's going to have the informed view?
Oh no, I've not retreated one step, Redux. I am composing the essay, and it will be devastating to any idea that you can do genocide without gun control in place. This happens sometimes decades in advance. Thus, if you are truly anti-genocide, you will be anti gun control as well. If you are not truly antigenocide, as for instance Spexx is... well, I'm sure you see what I'm driving at.
Whether it arrives instantly or tardily, what is truth is still truth. I know some truth, and you haven't studied. Who's going to have the informed view?
You started composing that essay more than two months ago!
[INDENT]
I shall happily demolish your ignorant contention that it's bizarre that gun control should connect to genocide in a following post. It's a routine thing. I have the knowledge at my fingertips, though it does take a little while to compose the essay and supply you with links -- Sept 15, 2009[/INDENT]
And I am anxiously awaiting to see how you will make the case that the US democratic system, based on Constitutional checks and balances, including an independent judiciary, is in any way comparable to those authoritative genocidal regimes you like to cite - Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia, Pol Pot's Cambodia, Mao's China - with strict gun control where citizens have neither a comparable 2nd amendment right or any such protections.
BTW, you ignored these questions regarding your incessant Obama/socialists charges:
[INDENT]Please explain how temporary bail-outs to address an economic crisis equate to a permanent government take-over of all means of production in the interest of the workers....completely different goals.
Explain how health care reform with a significant reliance (200+ million workers) on the private sector is socialism....as opposed to a single payer, government subsidized system for all.
How is Obama's war in Afghanistan a socialist ideal when a socialist would call for the immediate closing of all U.S. military facilities at home and abroad.
A socialist would also demand the immediate withdrawal from NAFTA....have you seen that in the Obama/Democratic policy statements.
Socialists oppose the IMF, the World Bank, the WTO.....does Obama?
Explain how government environmental regulation is socialism....NOT government ownership of environmental resources as a socialist would support.
How is Obama's support of the Patriot Act representative of socialism?[/INDENT]
Should I expect to wait another two months?
Added:
Rule number 1 in political advocacy -- Don't write long-winded essays when you can make the point in a paragraph. :)
What, are you going on a three-month vacation soon and won't have internet? I said I'd write it, and I will. There's nothing whatever bizarre in the connection between gun control and genocide -- it is observed through numerous genocides that the two correlate. And because of that, one may form a theory of vulnerability to genocide, which may be thought of as a crime done to government specifications, and of vulnerability to crime on the personal level -- both predicate upon victim defenselessness more than anything else.
What, are you going on a three-month vacation soon and won't have internet? I said I'd write it, and I will. There's nothing whatever bizarre in the connection between gun control and genocide -- it is observed through numerous genocides that the two correlate. And because of that, one may form a theory of vulnerability to genocide, which may be thought of as a crime done to government specifications, and of vulnerability to crime on the personal level -- both predicate upon victim defenselessness more than anything else.
Rule number 2 in political advocacy -- dont attempt to bullshit your way out of corner with gibberish. You might succeed in fooling a naive 15 yr old follower, but not any well informed observer.
Rule number 2 in political advocacy -- dont attempt to bullshit your way out of corner with gibberish. You might succeed in fooling a naive 15 yr old follower, but not any well informed observer.
ooooh I've gotta remember that one.
I am following Rule 2 Of Political Advocacy closely. You, Redux, are in for quite an epiphany, it seems. But I really ought, indeed, to get what I promised done before the end of Advent!
I am sure that what persuaded me will in the end persuade you also. I think I may correctly assume genocide is something you do not like?
I'm calling rule 34 on Redux
The republicans aren't the only ones. . .
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Scott Murphy (NY-20)
Bobby Bright (AL-2)
Frank Kratovil Jr. (MD-1)
Walt Minnick (ID-1)
Eric Massa (NY-29)
Parker Griffith (AL-5)
John Adler (NJ-3)
Glenn Nye (VA-2)
Chet Edwards (TX-17)
Travis Childers (MS-1)
John Boccieri (OH-16)
Larry Kissell (NC-8)
Jason Altmire (PA-4)
Harry Teague (NM-2)
Betsy Markey (CO-4)
Jim Marshall (GA-8)
Suzanne Kosmas (FL-24)
Dennis J. Kucinich (OH-10)
Lincoln Davis (TN-4)
Allen Boyd (FL-2)
Heath Shuler (NC-11)
Tim Holden (PA-17)
Michael E. McMahon (NY-13)
Brian Baird (WA-3)
Jim Matheson (UT-2)
Ben Chandler (KY-6)
Ike Skelton (MT-4)
John Barrow (GA-12)
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (SD)
Mike McIntyre (NC-7)
Dan Boren (OK-2)
Collin C. Peterson (MN-7)
Bart Gordon (TN-6)
Gene Taylor (MS-4)
Mike Ross (AR-4)
Rick Boucher (VA-9)
Artur Davis (AL-7)
Charlie Melancon (LA-3)
John Tanner (TN-8)
What are those numbers? How many points they are worth? :sniper:
That's their district number, within their home state. These are Congressmen from the House of Representatives, not the Senate.
Damm, I thought that was their IQ.
Which would explain why they are all negative numbers.
Zen is invoking the Heinlein definition of a committee here.