goOgLe sHanGhaiED!

snagglefish • Sep 9, 2002 9:31 pm
well, not sure if this really qualifies as a 'quality' image or not - just thought it was pretty interesting. as some of you probably know google.com has been blocked by the Great Firewall of China for several days now.

what you probably don't know is that as of yesterday China has hijacked google's DNS out of China. if i type in google.com (i live in shanghai) i am taken to some random search engine that is propogated here.

yesterday it was a site from Peking University, and today it is some clowns called eNet.com.cn

here is the screen shot.

i like the copyright info at bottom.
Undertoad • Sep 9, 2002 10:40 pm
Can you get to it via a proxy somewhere?
snagglefish • Sep 9, 2002 11:00 pm
yes and no.

if i need to google search right now i go through http://canoe.ca which has a google function that provides me with results. a friend set up a proxy server for me, but since i already need a proxy just to get out of my LAN it isn't useful to me. plus trying to configure things on my chinese language IE is a pain in the ass.

if anyone has the know-how and the want to set up some sort of a proxy where i type the url into a dialogue box and it is served up in a frame that would be wonderful.

in the meantime i am stuck here behind the great firewall of china.
MaggieL • Sep 10, 2002 12:47 am
I had heard that some Chinese folk were using the joke site "Elgoog" to serve as a kind of proxy. The hole may have been plugged by now.

http://www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/ is a joke site; you ask someone if they've tried the Google mirror site, and point them to it....it's a joke on the work "mirror", of course.

But today they have a plea at the bottom of the page, with a Paypal donation link: "Hosting a Google mirror for 1.3 billion Chinese people isn't cheap. Please help us out with our bandwidth costs."
Nic Name • Sep 10, 2002 12:59 am
As mentioned in another thread:

As most of you already know, China has blocked access to Google.

Google is getting all the press, but access is also blocked to altavista.com.

Fortunately, the powers that be in China don't understand the Internet. Access to excellent search engines is still available at www.alltheweb.com and www.vivisimo.com. and www.teoma.com.
From outside the Great Firewall of China, you can test what's blocked and what's not here.
snagglefish • Sep 10, 2002 1:27 am
well elgoog isn't blocked, but it is kind of silly. and either i am an idiot (possible) or else it really isn't linking to google's actual database because my searches aren't turning anything up (spelled forward and backwards).

oh well.

incidently google.com in china now points to cnnavigate.com. seems like they are changing where it is pointing every few hours.

wacky.
ndetroit • Sep 10, 2002 1:58 am
hahahaha...

$28.98 later, and google.cn is all yours, snagglefish... ....

of course... the great firewall of china is likely to block a capitalist credit card transaction like that, too...


hahahaha..
ndetroit • Sep 10, 2002 2:01 am
wow I suck at posting images.. .. ;(


oh well.. ... SORRY to everyone on dialup.. ... ;D



-nd
snagglefish • Sep 10, 2002 2:20 am
well i would register the damn thing if i could *find* a site that does .cn registrations. incidently, google.com.cn is taken.


*s
Nic Name • Sep 10, 2002 2:27 am
No can do: http://www.cnnic.net.cn/e-domain.shtml ;)
snagglefish • Sep 10, 2002 2:35 am
yeah - i think *technically* i should be able to register a .cn top level domain (being that i am a resident here, or a good friend is anyways ;), but i suspect that registering the top-level domain is a pain in the ass. i remember when i tried to register a .ca they wanted all sorts of proof of ownership of trademark and whatnot.

oh well.

maybe it will have to be elgoog.com.cn

;)
juju • Sep 10, 2002 10:46 am
Snagglefish, what you need is a unix shell account somewhere outside the firewall. Then you can use lynx to search google yourself.

Or what about an anonymizer? There are lots of those available online. Like maybe http://www.rewebber.de/ or http://www.anonymizer.com/index.shtml?

Also try http://soapclient.com/googlesearch.html.
snagglefish • Sep 10, 2002 11:04 pm
rewebber and anonymizier are both blocked, as are most anonymizers that i have tried. soap works though. is there any way to use it to search groups.google....?
MaggieL • Sep 10, 2002 11:47 pm
Originally posted by snagglefish
well elgoog isn't blocked, but it is kind of silly. and either i am an idiot (possible) or else it really isn't linking to google's actual database because my searches aren't turning anything up (spelled forward and backwards).

Mine seem to work, when spelled backwards. The text box works a little funny because it's right-aligned.
snagglefish • Sep 11, 2002 12:16 am
i am an idiot. i can get it to work now. but it still rather silly. canoe.ca's google doesn't require me to type backwards....but still can't access groups yet....*sigh*......
snagglefish • Sep 11, 2002 12:25 am
WIRED here:
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,55030,00.html
actual news.

as of sept 9 1235 pm PST...they may have beat my initial post....:'(

NYT here: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/10/international/asia/10BRIE3.html

oh well. i am sure it will eventually re-appear.
Nic Name • Sep 13, 2002 10:16 am
Google's back in China, sort of

Reuters News Agency

Beijing — China has restored access to the popular search engine Google, but is still blocking Internet users from content it deems politically taboo as part of a media crackdown ahead of November's pivotal Communist Party congress.
Nic Name • Sep 13, 2002 7:44 pm
Asynchronous Google Access - CapeMail (Formerly GoogleMail)
snagglefish • Sep 15, 2002 10:59 pm
yeah - so google is back here in the middle kingdom. for the time being. thanks to all who suggested alternate links to suvert the great firewall.
snagglefish • Sep 16, 2002 5:14 am
so i can access most of google - but cannot access any of the cached pages. this nytimes article talks about the slightly more nuanced approach:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/14/international/asia/14CHIN.html
Nic Name • Sep 26, 2002 4:32 pm
Chinese Name Generator
Slight • Sep 26, 2002 9:21 pm
Please check out Peek-a-booty . It is a spin off from Hacktivismo and The Cult of the Dead Cow. They are writing a program that allows you to surf uncensored. You run a client on your pc that connects to a peek-a-booty node and then you surf the web using that other computer's uncensored net connection. Its kinda like anonymisers, vpns and ssh tunnels. It is also like distibuted.net, SETI@home and Gnutella in that it requires many people to give up thier computing resources.

The linked page also has a webpage (php) that will let you use google off of their server. Have fun.
snagglefish • Sep 29, 2002 5:13 am
slight - that is a great site...thanks for digging that up for me.

nic - i do indeed have a chinese name 'An de Long' (I am totally butchering the spelling of my own name i am sure)....in any case it means something to the effect of 'Quiet, Moral, Dragon'

booyah.

and speaking of names, i have become the bestower of english names in my office. so far Conrad (closest to Comrade that I could get); Arwen and Galadriel. I am hoping to name the tech guy Gandalf cause he gets stuff done.

ta ta from china.
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