A woman scorned...
Those gals really stuck together.
The women are free on $200 cash bails.
:lol2:
Totally not worth it if they are convicted of sexual assault. Dumb.
Of course if this had been 4 men who glued a cheating woman's vagina shut, there would have been no bale.
And I would have made some joke about listening to the Go-Go's song "Our Lips Are Sealed".
:headshake
there would have been no bale.
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You know, I say good on them, and anyone else that do something that ballsy.
I could tell you the story/s of some of the things I've done to men because they've been dicks...if you wanted to know.
I'm sorry, I'm just really bothered by that attitude. I think cheating men are loathsome, but sexual assault is more so.
Yeah, why is this okay?
Forget innocent until proven guilty--the article doesn't even say he "allegedly" cheated, that part is just the gospel truth. And, so what? Did his wife cheat on him? Were the women he was cheating with also married and living in infidelity? Had he cheated on her multiple times before and she knew about it, but stayed with him anyway?
We didn't ask those questions. Yeah, I'll be the tw in this thread. First principles are not established here.
And, in the final equation, brutal vigilante justice is not okay unless you are in a comic book.
I suppose that... because there is a history of violence towards women, perpetrated by men, we should chalk this one up to "payback" for all of the sins of history? I call bullshit.
FYI: In my previous marriage I was cheated on. I just left and got a divorce. That seems like a more appropriate response to me.
Or even just confronting him together, filming it, and putting it up on YouTube. Humiliation achieved -- without assault.
Yeah, okay--it's bad to cheat. What bothers me is all the snickers and laughs about the way they handled it. That's just mean, and I don't do mean.
There are things that are okay and things that are not okay.
Extreme situations test a person's parameters on this.
The true person comes out at these times.
I suppose it's better than actually castrating him with a butcher knife.
Relatively speaking, yes. Of course on the other end of the scale you have "none of the above" so it's actually pretty close.
Hell, I have a problem with that fucking song about the hillbitch who tears the shit out of her boyfriend's cars cause he's all up in the bar getting drunk with some other chick.
Shel is right: if men had done that to a woman can you freaking imagine?
You say goodbye, you leave, or make him leave...and you get on with your life wiser and better.
There's absolutely no sense in what they did...and it makes me sick that there still exists a double standard that women can smack men around or do whatever they want because we're just weak l'il ole things who done been scorned. I see this kind of behavior as being completely counter-productive to fighting domestic violence.
OK, so smacking him around wasn't nice, but why should he get off scott free? They could have been more imaginative and then it would have been really entertaining.
FWIW I was laughing at the ridiculous $200 bail. Yeah, these women should get written up as sex offenders. Along with prison time (if convicted).
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Calm down. I was just playin' with ya. :cool:
Auntie Em? Surrender Dorothy!
It is appalling that very real violence, with the headline calling it torture, is laughed off as if this was a harmless practical joke.And a $200 bail is very low in fact the bail would have been higher if they did something to his car.
A bunch of my friends think it's funny. It's really pissing me off. I understand the impulse to laugh at other people's misery, but we are further evolved than chimps.
...but we are further evolved than chimps.
That is arguable.
Well, some of us are, at least.
I'm blowing this all out of proportion. There are worse things, but sometimes things just get to me; sorry.
I see no reason to apologize you have understandable outrage.
I'm blowing this all out of proportion.
Maybe in your head/heart, but what you've written here is right. :thumb:
Well, some of us are, at least.
I'm blowing this all out of proportion. There are worse things, but sometimes things just get to me; sorry.
No, you're not. If we don't find this behavior deplorable then how can we turn the tables when the sexes are exchanged?
I don't care if I look like Ms Blow Out of Proportion to anyone: it is not right and it is not funny and I don't find it charming when women behave like stupid classless savages any more than I find it charming when men do, which is to say: it turns my stomach, and it's a dangerous precedent.
I went to bed last night still thinking about this--about why it bothered me so much. I compared this to the burning bed scenario, which I wasn't upset about at all. Why was this different? I realized that-- I really don't care about the guy--he's a jerk. Nor do I care about the women--they're stupid. I care more about people thinking it's funny. I
understand why people laugh at such things--I just don't
like it.
I just have a "Thing" about people being mean, petty, and cruel. Of course, I don't have as much of a problem with being shallow, selfish, and lazy.;)
And my last word on the subject-- if you didn't recognize the chimp reference, here's my foundation: Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein. (I've often said I read too much Heinlein at an impressionable age).
Of course it wasn't funny-it was tragic. That's why I had to laugh. I looked at a cageful of monkeys and suddenly I saw all the mean and cruel and utterly unexplainable things I've seen and heard and read about in the time I've been with my own people and suddenly it hurt so much I found myself laughing."
"But- Mike dear, laughing is something you do when something is nice - . . not when it's horrid."
"Is it? Think back to Las Vegas- When all you pretty girls came out on the stage, did people laugh?"
"Well ... no."
"But you girls were the nicest part of the show. I grok now, that if they had laughed, you would have been hurt. No, they laughed when a comic tripped over his feet and fell down ...or something else that is not a goodness."
Here's an article on the whole thing--about The Nature of Laughter:
http://ockhamsrazor.joeuser.com/article/161492I think the difference between this event and those depicted in The Burning Bed (and this is a BIG difference) is the former is a cheater, the latter was an extremely abusive person who had continually beaten and hurt that woman until she broke. NOT the same thing AT all.
Fuck a bunch of cheaters. Leave his dumbass and find you a real man. A man who beats a woman should be dealt with within the law, but if I were on a jury I wouldn't vote to convict a woman in such an extreme situation as the one depicted in The Burning Bed.
I call bullshit, Shawnee.
Domestic violence is not an excuse to burn someone alive.
or "hurt them back" in any way, shape, or form.
If violence is against the law, then revenge for that violence using violence is ALSO against the law.
You can't say one sort of violence is ok (or justified) and another isn't.
Well, I guess you can, but you'd have a double standard.
I call bite me.
Read again, darling: what I said was that domestic violence is a far cry different than some gangbanger on the street (relating two different threads I was cross-posting in) and that women gang-assaulting a man out of revenge isn't right either, but that if I were on a jury I would find it hard to vote to convict someone who had been through what the woman depicted in The Burning Bed went through. I didn't say it was right, I said it should be dealt with within the law. However, I know how I feel when I see such things, and it gets me where I live, so to speak, so I admit my human flaw of thinking "fuck you you abusive control freak who uses your strength and intimidation skills to hurt someone who once loved you so much."
Oh, and bite me. Twice.
A man who beats a woman should be dealt with within the law, but if I were on a jury I wouldn't vote to convict a woman in such an extreme situation as the one depicted in The Burning Bed.
You wouldn't vote to convict a woman who tortured a man.
So how is the situation supposed to be dealt with by law if the jurors don't follow the law?
You're saying you would let this violent criminal go free.
I'm just calling it like I see it.
Oh, and bite me. Twice.
Is that really necessary?
Oh I will resist the urge to respond about what you eat...
You just pop on in here and act like a bitch to me, who you don't even know? Yeah, bite me. No reasonable discourse, no "can you explain to me your feelings about this?" No, just a big "bullshit" call. You don't know fucking shit about me, but you're going to call a bullshit on me? You even seem the type to glue a man's dick and assault him. What? I can't make that call? I don't know you? Huh.
Fuck. You.
First of all, I didn't just "pop" on here? I was here **years** before you were.
My "reasonable discourse" followed my initial statement. And if you think *that* was bitchy, you ain't seen nothin.
Get a grip. Just because you have been called on a double standard, don't get all pissed off at me. And the whole "fuck you" thing with the excessive punctuation? That supposed to what, exactly? Make me change my mind? I'm not entirely clear here. Can you explain to me your feelings about this?
Yeah, I will. You're an abrasive and abusive person. This is why you take offense, something inside you rises up and overcomes your deeply-ingrained Christianity, and the only way to deal is to call out someone else on something that doesn't exist. If you can't see the difference between the two scenarios, well, you're blind, but if you actually read what I said and I ADMITTED TO KNOWING ISN'T RIGHT, you'll see no double standard exists. Can we get a UG in here to teach reading comprehension?
Oh, you have longevity on me? Wow, let me bow to your superior internetness.
Yeah, I will. You're an abrasive and abusive person.
Abrasive I can understand that you might "hear" my tone that way. Abusive? cite. Seems to me you're the one saying "Bite Me" and "fuck you" and whatever else.
This is why you take offense,
huh? take offense at what?
something inside you rises up and overcomes your deeply-ingrained Christianity, and the only way to deal is to call out someone else on something that doesn't exist.
What does my religion have to do with you having a double standard?
If you can't see the difference between the two scenarios, well, you're blind,
Why do you think I can't tell the difference between the two scenarios? Because I disagree with you?
but if you actually read what I said
I did read what you said. several times, to make sure I understood what you were trying to say.
and I ADMITTED TO KNOWING ISN'T RIGHT, you'll see no double standard exists.
I disagree. I think a double standard does exist, and I agree that it isn't right.
Can we get a UG in here to teach reading comprehension?
Can we not and say we didn't?
Oh, you have longevity on me? Wow, let me bow to your superior internetness.
My pointing out to you that I've been here longer than you wasn't in an attempt to be better than you, it was to point out that I didn't just "pop in here", like I was some n00b who doesn't know the culture here.
We've disagreed before, Shawnee, and you've not been this vitriolic, at least without quite a bit more pushing.
And as I've pointed out (bit by bit), you're making ALOT of assumptions and I think you're "hearing" my "voice" in a much different tone than it's written.
Calm down, take a breath. It's OK. Really.
Stop patronizing me. Yes, it's OK. And it's over. You wanted a squabble and you got one. I contend that I do not have a double standard...you just don't listen. Simple enough. Keep pointing at me with your powerful DS designator, I'm already bored with your approach, which is to say I don't have time nor the inclination to watch you play "let's rile up Shaw because she admitted to being happy" while you sit back and play Miss Calm and Informed.
You don't know me. I wouldn't expect you to. We certainly wouldn't seek each other out IRL, our values being so vastly different and all. Therefore, I see no reason to continue down this useless road.
Oh, and I just like saying Fuck You and Bite Me, but I'm a bad person. :lol:
Stop patronizing me. Yes, it's OK. And it's over. You wanted a squabble and you got one.
No, I didn't. You assuming. Again.
I contend that I do not have a double standard...you just don't listen. Simple enough. Keep pointing at me with your powerful DS designator,
What's a DS designator?
I'm already bored with your approach, which is to say I don't have time nor the inclination to watch you play "let's rile up Shaw because she admitted to being happy"
Stop assuming you know my motives or my thoughts. I didn't see where you admitted to being happy, and if I *had*, I certainly am not the kind of person to rile up anyone on purpose without considerable reason. STOP ASSUMING. It makes you look like an ass.
while you sit back and play Miss Calm and Informed.
Actually, I'm kind of upset, but I'm trying keep from making the kind of personal attacks on you that you're doing on me. I don't like what you're doing, and I don't want to act like that, which is why I deleted the part of my second post that wasn't nice. I recognized it didn't help anything, that it was a trollish statement, and removed it before you commented on it, but not before you saw it. So, I apologize for "saying" it.
You don't know me. I wouldn't expect you to. We certainly wouldn't seek each other out IRL, our values being so vastly different and all.
Oh please. "Our values being so different and all"? Since you *don't* know me, how can you say what my values are?
Therefore, I see no reason to continue down this useless road.
Oh, and I just like saying Fuck You and Bite Me, but I'm a bad person. :lol:
Its only a useless road if you're close minded.
And as a final thought, taking your pissiness from this thread and then going behind my posts on other threads and making snarky comments is, in my opinion, childish and petulant. Grow the hell up and act like an adult.
[done with this]
Your opinion isn't relevant to me. *shrugs*
Instigating asshole's opinions usually aren't. I just like to watch you prance around on your fake high horse. Turning the tables, so to speak. This goal has been achieved. It's a very telling little story: you're something special, aren't ya? ;)