I finally bought my hot dog cart!!!

Radar • May 12, 2009 5:47 pm
It's not the cart of my dreams, but it will work. I got it for $2,300.

It's a steam cart, but it has a portable grill on it. I figure I can use this until I break even, then I can get something better. The guy took a photo with a Sabrett's umbrella, but didn't give me the umbrella. It's not a big deal. The handles are missing on some of the pans but the guy says to use the tongs. I may just buy new pans.

The latch on the left door at the bottom is missing so I can see this being a problem when driving. The burner on the left is missing a couple of bolts to hold it in place so it jiggles. I will replace the bolts. It's missing the connector that goes from the propane to the portable grill. I'll have to buy one if I can find it.

I've already got my spot secured and paid for. I'll be selling dogs directly across the street from the Social Security Building in an area that has one of the highest concentrations of retired people in America. I'm working on the business paperwork at the moment.

I've got to get my state license. Then I apply to get a plan reviewed by the health department. Then I get an inspection. Then my county and/or city occupational permit. I'm also talking to a lawyer and an accountant about business structure, dba, etc.

I just got offered an IT job for $40/hr down here. That's almost what I was making in Los Angeles, and it's a lot cheaper here in Florida. It is very tempting, especially because the job is from 5pm to 2am. I could still run the cart.

Here's the ad I got the cart from. Let me know what you think.


http://orlando.craigslist.org/bfs/1158363561.html


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lumberjim • May 12, 2009 6:18 pm
his is a quality mobile hot dog cart.
Custom body 2 propane tanks
1 hand washing sink
[COLOR=Red]1 Umbrella [/COLOR]
Hook it up to your vehicle drive away and open for business!
4 Steaming pans with lids
2 direct heat pans
Stainless steel grill
Two custom made fold out shelves
All necessary equipment to start making big money


WTF? what kind of a lay down are you?! go get your umbrella or take him on Judge Judy this instant!
Beestie • May 12, 2009 6:29 pm
The ad says the umbrella is included. C'mon Jim, I'll swing by and pick up Zip and we'll teach that shiester a lesson he won't soon forget.

Who the hell does he think he's messin' with?

The cart is awesome, Radar. I respect a man who says what he's going to do and, adversity be damned, goes out and does it. Serve hot dogs from 9:30am to 2:30pm, go home, shower up and report to the IT job at 5pm. Good man.
Radar • May 12, 2009 6:38 pm
lumberjim;565211 wrote:
WTF? what kind of a lay down are you?! go get your umbrella or take him on Judge Judy this instant!



It's seriously not that big a deal. My uncle Manny sells Sabretts and he has extra umbrella's he can give me. It's just the point that he said it was included in the ad, and when I went to buy it, suddenly it's missing.
Undertoad • May 12, 2009 6:39 pm
I should think there'd be legal restrictions on that, ie, can't sell a Sabrett's brella to anybody because they might not sell Sabrett's.
Radar • May 12, 2009 6:46 pm
Excellent point. I'm torn between branding myself (some people are brand loyal) or not. I'm leaning toward not branding and just getting a nice red & white umbrella.

If you brand yourself, they give you free things like umbrella's, signs, menus, etc. especially if you brand with Vienna Beef. They give you everything.

Sabretts are a bit less generous, but they do have the red onion sauce a lot of people seem to love.

If I don't brand, I don't get screwed if Sabretts or Vienna decide to raise prices. I can just switch brands.

On the advice of a very intelligent man I know, I was considering using Thumann's dogs, but they only sell 8/1 dogs. They don't have footlongs, or quarter pounders. This means I'd have to sell 2 different brands or only sell regular dogs...which might turn out to be better anyway.
lumberjim • May 12, 2009 7:01 pm
if you're gonna market your brand, put your Dante's Devil Dogs Logo on the Umbrella.

oh, and congrats, man.....that's freaking awesome!
Radar • May 12, 2009 7:07 pm
Thanks. Now if I can only get a van with a tow hitch. :)
Pooka • May 12, 2009 7:08 pm
For some reason I thought you were somehow comparing yourself to Ignacious... but I see you are serious... in which case I must add...

Hebrew national have ALWAYS been my favorite and were the only dogs I went for in NYC when I lived there. Are you going to grill your dogs or will they be "Dirty water dogs?"
Radar • May 12, 2009 7:30 pm
I would prefer to have a flat grill like I originally intended. I think the smell of grilled dogs, onions, peppers, Italian sausages, brats, etc. brings a crowd.

For now, they will be dirty water dogs.
Aliantha • May 12, 2009 7:35 pm
Good for you Radar. I hope it all works out exactly as you'd like it to. :)
lookout123 • May 12, 2009 7:38 pm
congratulations radar. don't get discouraged with all the little hurdles, you're living the dream.
Radar • May 12, 2009 8:26 pm
Thank you all.

We bought a house cash and it will close on Thursday. We'll have no credit card payments, no house payments, no car payments, etc. and will be able to get by on very little, but will be able to save a lot if I make a lot. :)
glatt • May 12, 2009 8:26 pm
That cart looks great! Good job Radar. It's really coming along now.
Elspode • May 12, 2009 8:30 pm
This is awesome, Radar. I say take the IT job, get a firm financial foundation under you and your family, and build the dog business slowly, with a plan and a goal. In three or four years, pay others to run your fleet of carts, and live like a king.

You go, dude. Oh. And get a custom Devil Dog umbrella made. Trust me on this.
jinx • May 12, 2009 8:44 pm
Congrats Radar! I am so totally impressed :thumb::thumb:
Tiki • May 12, 2009 9:20 pm
It looks awesome!
richlevy • May 12, 2009 9:37 pm
Congratulations Radar.

Don't forget spicy beef sausages. I love the Dietz and Watson ones.
capnhowdy • May 12, 2009 9:56 pm
I knew you could do it. Good luck!
monster • May 12, 2009 9:59 pm
Just yesterday I was wondering how you were doing and meant to ask for an update (and from the other dwellars currently "at a turning point in their career").

I'm inclined to vote for no branding -you seem more the independant sort, and get your mascot on the umbrella instead.
classicman • May 12, 2009 11:19 pm
That's awesome Radar. I'm so very happy for you. You are living the dream. You set up the plan and you're seein it through - most courageous and entrepreneurial. The American way. Congrats and great luck.

Oh, one last thing. If you don't get Dante on your umbrella I'll come down there and ...
spudcon • May 12, 2009 11:34 pm
This might be the most secure business in this economy right now. Congratulations!
ZenGum • May 13, 2009 3:57 am
Congrats radar, way to live that American dream.

Let us know how long it takes for some joker dressed as Buddha to come up to you and say "make me one with everything".
DanaC • May 13, 2009 4:04 am
Oh! This is SO exciting!

Radar I'm chuffed to bits for you, I really am, mate. Sounds like a sensible thing to do, maybe, taking on the job as well. Just in case the business is slow to build. Though, I suspect it won't be!

This is exactly the sort of thing that (I personally think) will do well in the current economic climate. People are less happy about eating out at restaurants, but a few dollars on a hotdog is a cheap way of feeling flush and makes for a decent workday lunch.

Good luck with it. Keep posting pics! We want one with you set up at your pitch, lookin' all hotdoggy :)
ZenGum • May 13, 2009 7:27 am
Let me just add:


Hot-diggetty-dog!!!
Pie • May 13, 2009 9:32 am
ZenGum: "Make me one with everything"
:lol2:

Congrats, Radar! Do Dwellars get a free dog? :yum:
Shawnee123 • May 13, 2009 9:35 am
Pie! That was perfect! :notworthy:

Hope you are very successful Radar.
ZenGum • May 13, 2009 9:44 am
He will be. That Radar, no matter what happens, he just bounces right back.
classicman • May 13, 2009 9:48 am
lol
Pie;565365 wrote:

ZenGum: "Make me one with everything"


ZenGum;565373 wrote:

Radar: He just bounces right back.

Those two belong here
Pie • May 13, 2009 10:33 am
ZenGum;565318 wrote:
Let us know how long it takes for some joker dressed as Buddha to come up to you and say "make me one with everything".

Shawnee123;565368 wrote:
Pie! That was perfect! :notworthy

I was quoting ZG there... ;)
Shawnee123 • May 13, 2009 10:54 am
Oh...OK ZEN that was perfect.

:)
kerosene • May 13, 2009 12:02 pm
So happy for you, Radar. We just had brats at a hotdog stand yesterday and it made me think of this thread. The guy makes his own brats. They were very good.
Radar • May 13, 2009 2:40 pm
Pie;565365 wrote:
ZenGum: "Make me one with everything"
:lol2:

Congrats, Radar! Do Dwellars get a free dog? :yum:



Thanks everyone. I am still in the midst of doing paperwork, and stuff. It will be a month or so before I actually open up.

And yes, Dwellars get a free dog if they make it to Ocala, FL.


Do you remember the response to the "Make me one with everything"?

I believe it goes like this....

A Buddhist monk, visiting New York City for the first time in twenty years, walked up to a hot dog vendor, handed him a twenty dollar bill, and said, “Make me one with everything.”

The vendor pocketed the money, and handed the Buddhist monk his hot dog. The monk, after waiting for a moment, asked for his change. The vendor looked at him and said, “Change comes from within.” With a wistful smile, the monk walked away.
Queen of the Ryche • May 13, 2009 3:09 pm
I was hoPING the stand would be on its way! Way to go Radar!
BrianR • May 16, 2009 7:33 am
Free dog: I'll take you up on that, Tom!

I get there from time to time and I have relatives living there.
lumberjim • May 16, 2009 12:39 pm
BrianR;566145 wrote:
Free dog: I'll take you up on that, [COLOR=Red]Tom[/COLOR]!


paul
:blush:
lumberjim • May 16, 2009 12:40 pm
Radar;565426 wrote:


A Buddhist monk, visiting New York City for the first time in twenty years, walked up to a hot dog vendor, handed him a twenty dollar bill, and said, “Make me one with everything.”

The vendor pocketed the money, and handed the Buddhist monk his hot dog. The monk, after waiting for a moment, asked for his change. The vendor looked at him and said, “Change comes from within.” With a wistful smile, the monk walked away.


put that on a plaque on your cart
ohgr • May 16, 2009 10:36 pm
Out of curiousity sake how many hotdogs would you have to sell every day to live off of?

Maybe i underestimate the general populous' ability to consume mass amounts of phallus shaped meat
lumberjim • May 16, 2009 10:49 pm
EAD hot dog carts sell over 300,000 hot dogs per day in the US.
ZenGum • May 16, 2009 11:50 pm
lumberjim;566271 wrote:
EAD hot dog carts sell over 300,000 hot dogs per day in the US.


Eat A Dick hot dog carts?????


I always thought so ....:right:
Ibby • May 17, 2009 1:34 am
Radar:
speaking as one of clearly only a few resident vegetarians, are you going to serve veggie dogs? Or is it simply not profitable?
Radar • May 17, 2009 10:38 am
There are people who sell veggie dogs. I'm not one of them because you don't sell enough of them to make it worth it, and also because veggie dogs is sacrilege to hot dog lovers.
Ibby • May 17, 2009 10:58 am
*shrugs* fair 'nuff I guess.
Griff • May 17, 2009 4:14 pm
How about a gluten free wrap?
capnhowdy • May 17, 2009 5:14 pm
I think poosie shaped buns would be cool. Maybe not marketable, but cool.
ZenGum • May 17, 2009 9:35 pm
veggie dogs in gluten free buns ...

...maybe in San Francisco, but not in Florida!
monster • May 17, 2009 11:54 pm
i'd like a dog with 2% fat, beef and chicken meat only -definiely no pork, with the soy and flax-based filler.

I'll ake it on a garlic narn with organic mushroom ketchup.

thanks.

No, you're OK, keep the 14c change.... you've earned it.....
Undertoad • May 18, 2009 12:33 am
one wit mustard
kerosene • May 18, 2009 12:50 am
No mustid! Tastes like earwax. Just ketchup, thanks.
xoxoxoBruce • May 18, 2009 12:57 am
And you know what ear wax tastes like, how? :eek:

The management reserves the right to refuse service to anybody he damn well feels like.
kerosene • May 18, 2009 1:02 am
Oh, um, well...

:bolt:
ZenGum • May 18, 2009 1:11 am
xoxoxoBruce;566454 wrote:
And you know what ear wax tastes like, how? :eek:

The management reserves the right to refuse service to anybody he damn well feels like.


I reckon Radar should, and probably will, put that sign on his cart. :lol:

I reckon the first one should be there too, in smaller print. Just to deal with the smart-alec whingers. :D
Griff • May 18, 2009 6:21 am
case;566452 wrote:
Just ketchup, thanks.


Blasphemy!
Pie • May 18, 2009 8:54 am
Kraut and mustid, please
dmg1969 • May 18, 2009 1:27 pm
Congrats on the purchase, Radar! I agree...go get your umbrella! If I'm ever in the area...hold a dog with ketchup and onions for me. :p
Queen of the Ryche • May 18, 2009 4:57 pm
I can haz chili n cheez?
capnhowdy • May 18, 2009 5:11 pm
Have a box of Tums® and TicTac® on the cart too.

Me wants mustid & relish. And onions finely chopped.
Undertoad • May 18, 2009 5:25 pm
One all-beef, mustard, dijon if ya got it. Do you have Orangina or something like that?
Chocolatl • May 18, 2009 5:54 pm
Woohoo! Good luck getting everything up and running.

(Also: please include mayo among your cart condiments.)
Kitsune • May 18, 2009 6:09 pm
ZenGum;566425 wrote:
veggie dogs in gluten free buns ...

...maybe in San Francisco, but not in Florida!


Not in that area of Florida, anyways.

Radar wrote:
I'll be selling dogs directly across the street from the Social Security Building in an area that has one of the highest concentrations of retired people in America.


Hope the cart came with a blender. ;)

Congrats! After you're running, we'll stop by on our next trip out to ONF and have a dog.
dar512 • May 19, 2009 10:11 am
case;566452 wrote:
No mustid! Tastes like earwax. Just ketchup, thanks.

Then you've used the wrong mustard.

Here in Chicago, it's a strongly held belief that ketchup does not belong on a hot dog.
TheMercenary • May 19, 2009 11:00 am
Wow. Great job. Where did you finally relocate in Fl. ?(generally)

Glad to see your plan is coming together.:beer:
Radar • May 19, 2009 1:05 pm
dar is right about ketchup on a hot dog. In Chicago, only children do that.

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Merc,

I'm in Central, FL between Orlando and Gainesville. Bought a 3,000 square foot house cash for $70k, and I'm putting another $30k cash into fixing it up into a very nice place.

Between the house insurance and property taxes, I'll be paying less than 200 a month and I've got my own well so I don't have to pay for water.

Last year I paid off all my debts to credit cards, student loans, car payments, etc.

So now I have no rent or house payment, no credit card payments, no student loan payments, no car payments, etc. I could get by on pretty much nothing. My wife could support all 3 of us on the money she makes doing nails...which ain't much.

I figured this would give me a chance to make the hot dog biz work out well, but as luck would have it, I may have an IT job out here making the same money I made in Los Angeles. It's a swing shift job so I'll have the day time to run my cart. Even without the really good job, I'd be able to save a ton of money by just running the cart, but if I do both, I'll be one tired...and financially secure....man.

I'm still getting used to the weather. I've never sweat so much in my life.
jinx • May 19, 2009 1:52 pm
dar512;566720 wrote:

Here in Chicago, it's a strongly held belief that ketchup does not belong on a hot dog.


That's because there's no room once you get all that other crap on there...

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Shawnee123 • May 19, 2009 2:07 pm
There is way too much going on up there!

This is a hot dog. Plain. Simple. Perfect. No "smoky" or "red hot" or some german word implying it's either "beef-stuffed pork" or "pork-stuffed beef."

A touch of plain old yellow mustard OR some shredded cheddar (not melted) would be acceptable. :yum:

I will never write a book entitled "Adventures in Eating."
TheMercenary • May 19, 2009 2:11 pm
Got to have the occas chili as well.
kerosene • May 19, 2009 2:29 pm
Radar;566777 wrote:
dar is right about ketchup on a hot dog. In Chicago, only children do that.


Surely you will have some ketchup available for those of us children who like it? :D
Pie • May 19, 2009 4:21 pm
Maybe in little foil packets, that he can grudgingly dig out of a drawer somewhere. :haha:
Along with the admonition to "grow up & get a job!"
Flint • May 19, 2009 5:04 pm
jinx;566785 wrote:

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Do y'all know how hard it is to find a proper hotdog (see: above) in Texas?!
Pooka • May 19, 2009 7:11 pm
Flint;566861 wrote:
Do y'all know how hard it is to find a proper hotdog (see: above) in Texas?!


How hard honey??? All you have to do is ask... every time I've managed to provide... ohhh I guess you me for everyone else in Texas... yes it is a sad thing... texas is not know for its hot dogs... chili dogs maybe, but that is another beast.

Personally, Im loving the horseradish and saurkraut dogs... mmmmm a spicy pungent kick in the nose..... for all you wasabi lovers out there trust me on this one... it is a similar kick and pretty damn tasty.
Radar • May 19, 2009 11:12 pm
case;566804 wrote:
Surely you will have some ketchup available for those of us children who like it? :D



Of course. I'm not from Chicago or in Chicago. I sell what the people want.

Though I'm considering only having Coke products rather than both Coke & Pepsi.
lumberjim • May 19, 2009 11:15 pm
Pooka;566887 wrote:


Personally, Im loving the horseradish and saurkraut dogs... mmmmm a spicy pungent kick in the nose..... for all you wasabi lovers out there trust me on this one... it is a similar kick and pretty damn tasty.


i need to try that.


i have all of those ingredients.
monster • May 20, 2009 12:32 am
Radar;566965 wrote:
Of course. I'm not from Chicago or in Chicago. I sell what the people want.

Though I'm considering only having Coke products rather than both Coke & Pepsi.


Good lad. I hate it when there's only Pepsi products....

although we (summer outdoor pool) found that the best way for pop is to shop at the grocery stores when they have sales and just sell whatever they have cheap. better prices than contract or wholesale prices. For example this week you can get 60 cans of coke or pepsi for $11. So we stock up on that deal.
TheMercenary • May 20, 2009 12:33 am
We always do our brats or sausage with kraut and a horseradish based mustard. I rarely eat a regular dog anymore. To whimpy.
xoxoxoBruce • May 20, 2009 12:58 am
Radar;566777 wrote:
dar is right about ketchup on a hot dog. In Chicago, only children do that.

But you could call it a "Lorena Bobbit". ;)

monster;567024 wrote:
For example this week you can get 60 cans of coke or pepsi for $11.

That's a hell of a deal, how is that packaged? 10 six packs? 5 twelve packs? 2 thirty can cubes?
Pie • May 20, 2009 9:05 am
If you go with the coke products, please carry Coke Zero in addition to (or instead of) Diet Coke. :sick:
Shawnee123 • May 20, 2009 9:15 am
Radar;566965 wrote:
Of course. I'm not from Chicago or in Chicago. I sell what the people want.

Though I'm considering only having Coke products rather than both Coke & Pepsi.


YEAH! Pepsi sucks!

:rolleyes:

But really, it does.

Pie wrote:
If you go with the coke products, please carry Coke Zero in addition to (or instead of) Diet Coke.


Pay no attention to the Pie behind the curtain. Diet Coke is second only to coffee as a Drink of the Gods.
lumberjim • May 20, 2009 9:17 am
brand loyalties are weird. i'm starting some polls to delve deeper into this weirdness
Pie • May 20, 2009 10:48 am
All right Shaw, put up yer dukes! Diet Coke is teh suxxors!
Shawnee123 • May 20, 2009 10:52 am
I've had this fight with my brother already. He says DC makes him pee more. :lol:
kerosene • May 20, 2009 11:21 am
lumberjim;567095 wrote:
brand loyalties are weird. i'm starting some polls to delve deeper into this weirdness


Now I see where all of that came from.

Yes, they are weird. usually, we buy generic, whenever possible...I have an idea for a poll!
Radar • May 20, 2009 12:03 pm
xoxoxoBruce;567034 wrote:
But you could call it a "Lorena Bobbit". ;)


That's a hell of a deal, how is that packaged? 10 six packs? 5 twelve packs? 2 thirty can cubes?



Out here right now it's 48 cokes (4 - 12 packs) for $10. This is still a pretty good deal. When you can get a can for under $.25, you're doing pretty well, especially when you're selling them for a buck.
Radar • May 20, 2009 12:04 pm
Pie;567089 wrote:
If you go with the coke products, please carry Coke Zero in addition to (or instead of) Diet Coke. :sick:



I LOVE Coke Zero and pretty much dislike Diet Coke. I'll carry both because people will ask for both by name.
Radar • May 20, 2009 12:05 pm
lumberjim;567095 wrote:
brand loyalties are weird. i'm starting some polls to delve deeper into this weirdness


For me, it's not so much a brand loyalty as it is a taste loyalty. Pepsi is too sweet to me. It almost taste like medicine because it's kind of like syrup.
capnhowdy • May 20, 2009 5:03 pm
I just hope your cart can hold all this stuff.
Flint • May 20, 2009 5:06 pm
I like those Mexican, cinnamony things, what are those called? Churros. Get some of those, too...thx.
Undertoad • May 20, 2009 5:30 pm
Yknow what might go over, are muffins. But not the dumb store bought ones, they have to be good.
Flint • May 20, 2009 5:48 pm
Don't you dare get those grocery store muffins, dude. Or I will ruin you. Oh, and here's another thing: fortune telling.

You're welcome.
capnhowdy • May 20, 2009 8:10 pm
And don't forget beads and trinkets. But be sure and tell them not to eat them.
Radar • May 20, 2009 10:24 pm
No muffins. I'll try to make a deal with a local bakery for the buns. It'll probably be cheaper and better than regular buns from the grocery store. I want high quality buns though. Something that can compete with Wonder or Bunny buns.

I'll be selling 8/1 dogs, and 5/1 or 4/1 precooked brats and Italian sausages. I may consider 4/1 dogs too, but no footlongs. I'll use hoagie buns for the Sausage & Pepper sandwiches, and hot dog buns for brats & dogs.

I'll offer Coke, Diet Coke, Coke Zero, Orange Crush, Dr. Pepper, Sprite, Squirt, Barqs and possibly orange & lemon lime Gatorade (I live 20 minutes from where it was invented) and bottled water.

As far as chips go, I'd like to offer something better than Lays brands because people know they can buy a metric ton of them at Costco for nothing. I'd like to offer some quality chips like kettle chips, but I will also offer a variety of Doritos because they sell like crazy. I was thinking of offering Wise brands, but I'm not sure.

I have a feeling I'll sell a lot more drinks than dogs because of my location, but that's ok with me because the profit margin is higher.

Eventually I'll also offer hats, t-shirts, keychains, etc. with the mascot on it.
ohgr • May 21, 2009 1:15 am
Solid drink selection although i would say you're missing Mountain Dew (i dont like it but i know some people who must have it in their blood). Do not get Dasani water, anything else will do better and if you want to go high end go fiji over evian.

Props on Squirt. Not enough people carry that and it is the only soda on that list i would drink.

Here in utah there are two chains that sell Herr's chips (from philidephia iirc) and every time i visit the restaurant every single person orders a bag of them with their sandwich (either in place of or in addition to fries). People who can't readily access Herrs chips will worship and buy them. My wife makes me buy a few extra bags when i go there to keep on hand.

Also can't go wrong with Tim's chips if you want kettle. They are the best imo. http://www.timschips.com
Pie • May 21, 2009 9:11 am
Gonna stock any candy bars?
jinx • May 21, 2009 11:35 am
ohgr;567468 wrote:

Here in utah there are two chains that sell Herr's chips (from philidephia iirc)


Nottingham, PA, actually. Jim worked right down the street from the factory for a few weeks.
I keep meaning to take the kids on the tour and then I forget about it... I'm making a note now...
glatt • May 21, 2009 11:45 am
That's a great idea. I still remember the factory tour I took of a sardine cannery in Maine when I was a kid.
Radar • May 21, 2009 5:58 pm
Pie;567488 wrote:
Gonna stock any candy bars?


I'm pretty sure candybars would melt here...at least all the chocolate ones.

I could carry Munch bars or PayDay, but I might eat 'em all.
Radar • May 21, 2009 5:59 pm
ohgr;567468 wrote:
Solid drink selection although i would say you're missing Mountain Dew (i dont like it but i know some people who must have it in their blood). Do not get Dasani water, anything else will do better and if you want to go high end go fiji over evian.

Props on Squirt. Not enough people carry that and it is the only soda on that list i would drink.

Here in utah there are two chains that sell Herr's chips (from philidephia iirc) and every time i visit the restaurant every single person orders a bag of them with their sandwich (either in place of or in addition to fries). People who can't readily access Herrs chips will worship and buy them. My wife makes me buy a few extra bags when i go there to keep on hand.

Also can't go wrong with Tim's chips if you want kettle. They are the best imo. http://www.timschips.com



Good call on the Mountain Dew. On the chips, I've heard Cape Cod are the best kettle chips, but I'm willing to try anything. I was toying with carrying Red Bull or Monster, though I'll be across from the Social Security building so I don't know how popular, that product might be.
Pie • May 21, 2009 8:16 pm
Radar;567631 wrote:
I'm pretty sure candybars would melt here...at least all the chocolate ones.

I could carry Munch bars or PayDay, but I might eat 'em all.

If'n you're keeping sodas cold, you can keep candy cold. :eyebrow:
Radar • May 21, 2009 8:26 pm
Good point. I suppose I could put 'em in plastic bags in the coolers to keep them dry and cold.
Clodfobble • May 21, 2009 8:38 pm
Or sell those awesome ice cream Snickers bars. OMG those are so good.
where are the fnords • May 21, 2009 10:24 pm
have you thougth about any contests or promotions for your grand opening?
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also veggie dogs might not sell well but what about veggie corn dogs
xoxoxoBruce • May 22, 2009 2:17 am
You're gonna need a bigger cart. :haha:
capnhowdy • May 22, 2009 7:37 am
capnhowdy;567300 wrote:
I just hope your cart can hold all this stuff.


amen:D
skysidhe • May 22, 2009 11:29 am
mmm this thread is making me hungry
Shawnee123 • May 22, 2009 12:22 pm
How about filet mignon? Will you be carrying filet mignon? On a stick?
where are the fnords • May 22, 2009 12:25 pm
filet mignon or dog food
Shawnee123 • May 22, 2009 12:28 pm
Hot dogs are dog food. Cats get hungry too ya know. Will you carry Whiskas?
lumberjim • May 22, 2009 12:45 pm
sean connery wants haggis

[youtube]GjVGxWNa8oI[/youtube]
Shawnee123 • May 22, 2009 12:47 pm
:lol2:
DanaC • May 24, 2009 6:33 am
Oh. Haggis. I loves me some haggis.
richlevy • May 26, 2009 10:10 pm
Y'know Radar, I always did wonder one thing about vendors, especially hot dog vendors. Since the dogs need to be cooked and ready, unless your planning is dead on, you are going to have leftovers every day. Guys who have food trucks with grills don't have as immediate a problem, since raw ingredients can be kept for more than one day.

Does this mean your family will be eating hot dogs every day for as long as you own the cart? Should we buy you a "1000 hot dog recipes" book?
capnhowdy • May 27, 2009 7:36 am
Who needs a recipe book when you've got the Cellar?
ZenGum • May 27, 2009 8:29 am
What kind of installation art could you do with all those left-over sausages? Hmmmm......
Radar • May 27, 2009 4:26 pm
richlevy;568824 wrote:
Y'know Radar, I always did wonder one thing about vendors, especially hot dog vendors. Since the dogs need to be cooked and ready, unless your planning is dead on, you are going to have leftovers every day. Guys who have food trucks with grills don't have as immediate a problem, since raw ingredients can be kept for more than one day.

Does this mean your family will be eating hot dogs every day for as long as you own the cart? Should we buy you a "1000 hot dog recipes" book?


The cart I really want does have a grill. It's easy to cook as you need 'em. Even with that, I'd cook a few ahead of time and keep them warm in a steam pan.

The key is not to cook too many at once. If at the end of the day I've got 5 extra dogs, I'll look for the next 5 people walking by and say...

"Hey, have you ever tried a Dante's Dog? Let me give you one...my treat. Because I know when you taste how great my dogs are, you'll be back and you'll bring a few friends."

Then I'll give a dog away for positive public relations and maybe to help a hungry homeless person.
BrianR • Jun 6, 2009 3:42 pm
Don't overlook the local stray dogs.

The Lord said "As you do unto the least of these, you do unto me".

I'm not particularly religious but that's one maxim I try to live by. Usually.
Kitsune • Jun 7, 2009 12:26 pm
Mmmm. Delicious.
Radar • Jun 7, 2009 12:45 pm
Thanks for that Kitsune. It's the Peter North of hot dog animated .gif images.
Cicero • Jun 7, 2009 3:45 pm
I can't believe I just went through this whole thread and there is not one photo of the cart. What?!?
Nor any mention of my "seventh level spicy dog".

This is so bullshit!! :)
capnhowdy • Jun 7, 2009 5:06 pm
Yeah... how 'bout some pics, dude? I can't wait.
monster • Jun 7, 2009 5:32 pm
there were photos in the very first post, but you're too late to the party and now they're just big red Xs.
busterb • Jun 8, 2009 7:32 pm
Radar. I've got something I picked up at a stand in front of Lowes in Hattiesburg, ms. today. Black guy had a Swan dogs cart, and he had the BS down pat.
Scan later. See I don't hate ya. I had a chilli cheese dog w/onions, 3 bites, small I guess.
+ tax about 4 bucks.
busterb • Jun 8, 2009 8:16 pm
Here ya go I didn't try anything grilled .
ZenGum • Jun 8, 2009 9:55 pm
0% swan, 0% dog ... so how come he can call them swan dogs?
Undertoad • Jun 8, 2009 10:05 pm
It turns out if you come up with something awesome and unique, you don't have to advertise... just post your location on twitter and the people will find you.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/living/2009/06/01/rowlands.taco.truck.cnn
monster • Jun 8, 2009 10:41 pm
That's cool. Cashing in on the stupidity of punters. But it is Cali.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 9, 2009 4:05 am
Hey Radar, check out HR 875.:eek:
sad_winslow • Jun 24, 2010 7:32 pm
soo, i've been lurking for ages, and dying to know what's happened with the hot dog cart. any updates?
Urbane Guerrilla • Jun 26, 2010 11:40 pm
Winslow, poster Radar picked up his ball and went home sometime last January after Undertoad the sysop chewed him out for being a perennial shithead. Not only did Paul Ireland/Radar not have any people-skills, he hadn't the smallest idea why anyone would find them useful. You probably do not want any contact with so pathological a narcissist. It's good riddance.
lumberjim • Jun 26, 2010 11:58 pm
I liked him. But I never read his long posts.
sad_winslow • Jun 27, 2010 12:59 am
Urbane Guerrilla;666725 wrote:
Winslow, poster Radar picked up his ball and went home sometime last January after Undertoad the sysop chewed him out for being a perennial shithead. Not only did Paul Ireland/Radar not have any people-skills, he hadn't the smallest idea why anyone would find them useful. You probably do not want any contact with so pathological a narcissist. It's good riddance.


Oh, I missed all that drama, I just saw the hot dog cart thing and thought it was kind of cool. Too bad. I admire it when folks can do things that they dream about and start small businesses and so forth - if I wasn't on my current career track, I'd love to do something fun like that. Oh well.
Undertoad • Jun 27, 2010 7:50 am
I believe he bought the cart and then failed to do anything with it.
squirell nutkin • Jun 27, 2010 8:42 am
probably dawned on him that selling hotdogs would mean interacting with people who might have opinions different from his.
monster • Jun 27, 2010 8:50 am
doubt that. I just used to watch in awe as he trumpeted his superior business prowess without noticing what a spectacularly disastrous and incomplete plan his was. It was almost poetic, but I felt a bit like I was watching a rabbit in the headlights of real life. I hope his wife and baby are OK.
Clodfobble • Jun 27, 2010 4:42 pm
I dunno about his baby, but I think his wife has him completely figured out and is far more successful at getting what she wants than he is.
monster • Jun 27, 2010 4:49 pm
you could be right there. perhaps this was his outlet.
Tulip • Jun 27, 2010 5:17 pm
If I remember correctly, he blamed his wife for not being able to launch his hot dog cart business.
sad_winslow • Jun 27, 2010 5:31 pm
Wow, and here I am all completely oblivious to all this. i had no idea, i just remembered the hot dog thread and how cool i thought it was. didn't know anything about the dude. yet again, my faith in humanity, slightly crushed once more. sigh. i think *that* is where the "sad" in "sad_winslow" comes from.
monster • Jun 27, 2010 5:34 pm
sorry.
Jaydaan is setting up a new business quite successfully selling lingerie, if that cheers you up....
HungLikeJesus • Jun 27, 2010 7:59 pm
It might, if there were pictures.
TheMercenary • Jun 27, 2010 9:29 pm
Tulip;666844 wrote:
If I remember correctly, he blamed his wife for not being able to launch his hot dog cart business.
Was she an illegal alien or why was he so up tight about that issue? It seemed to me that all her assimilation was completely legal from his posts. I never understood that aspect.
Clodfobble • Jun 27, 2010 11:52 pm
It wasn't her nationality which prevented him from running the cart, it was just that (supposedly) she didn't want him to do it. As it turns out, foreign women are not better at knowing their place than American women, and his... well, let's set aside the question of possible financial restitution, and merely call it an arranged marriage... did not seem to be the joyful bliss he had instructed it to be.
classicman • Jun 27, 2010 11:59 pm
I believe there was an issue with moving far away from family - not sure if it was his or hers though. IIRC he had family, perhaps and uncle where he moved.
Clodfobble • Jun 28, 2010 12:08 am
He had an uncle in Florida, who already ran a successful hot dog cart. Her whole family was back in Vietnam, where she had made every effort to stay even after they were married, up to and including giving deliberately wrong answers at her greencard interviews (things like, "Where did you and your husband first meet?") He also talked about how she tried every excuse in the book not to have to have sex with him.

I'm surprised I'm the only one who remembers all this, it was quite the entertaining train wreck at the time.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 28, 2010 12:09 am
I remember.
sad_winslow • Jun 28, 2010 1:31 am
god, that's horrible. i'm kind of sorry i brought it up. i was hoping that somewhere, somebody normal and decent with a small dream made something happen. bah.
ZenGum • Jun 28, 2010 8:18 am
Hey Winslow, check out Grifftopia. Is there a thread for it? Anyone?

Man, I missed a lot of the details about Radar ... but none of it surprises me. I kind of miss him, just for being so far out there.
classicman • Jun 28, 2010 9:05 am
Wow Clod - your brain/memory never ceases to amaze me. With all you have going on, you still have the capacity to remember all that. I'm struggling to remember all that I need to lately.

Yeh, me too. Zen - He made me appear closer to normal. I miss that.
morethanpretty • Jun 28, 2010 9:18 am
I remember when he said he would rather kill his wife than let her leave him...that's real dedication right there!
Sundae • Jun 28, 2010 12:14 pm
And that if his wife got a boobjob their marriage would be over because it meant she was going to cheat. And that wasn't just a private issue, he applied it to every woman out there - including female Dwellars (despite evidence to the contrary).

It was somethig along the lines of every woman gets the richest man she can for her looks. Or every man gets the best looking woman he can afford. Quite shocking.

I do miss him though. I like me some cranks if they aren't too prolific.
Clodfobble • Jun 28, 2010 4:03 pm
classicman wrote:
Wow Clod - your brain/memory never ceases to amaze me. With all you have going on, you still have the capacity to remember all that. I'm struggling to remember all that I need to lately.


Heh, it's all long-term vs. short-term. I can remember Radar's Jerry-Springer-drama from a couple years ago, but I'm not sure if I even had breakfast this morning, let alone what I might or might not have had.
classicman • Jun 28, 2010 4:04 pm
hahahaha - Don't get me started on memory issues...
Griff • Jun 29, 2010 12:27 pm
ZenGum;666974 wrote:
Hey Winslow, check out Grifftopia. Is there a thread for it? Anyone?

Man, I missed a lot of the details about Radar ... but none of it surprises me. I kind of miss him, just for being so far out there.


The details are spread across a lot of old threads. I don't remember if I had one serious thread somewhere. Here is a video I put up in Jan 08. My life doesn't provide the drama Radar's has. He is an interesting character.

[youtube]Bbr64t5UlPU[/youtube]
Urbane Guerrilla • Jun 30, 2010 12:50 pm
Classicman sent me this a few months back.

http://mojoey.blogspot.com/2006/06/nutball-alert-paul-ireland.html

The link in there to his Congressional campaign website was still hot, four years and sixty-three votes later. Not any more; I just checked.

Note the photograph: a man with a waistline like that needs about two feet of cock to get past his bellybutton for most of the usual sex positions. Though his daughter's existence says he managed it at least once -- and I worry for her. Him I miss not at all: he was not disposed to allow freedom of thought, so quite naturally I chainsawed him at every opportunity once I grasped his nature. I am a man of liberty; he, a man of narcissism.
Nirvana • Jun 30, 2010 8:07 pm
Is it a sign of the apocalypse to agree with UG? :eyebrow:
monster • Jun 30, 2010 9:12 pm
yup
classicman • Jul 1, 2010 12:03 am
morethanpretty;666986 wrote:
I remember when he said he would rather kill his wife than let her leave him.


Radar;623070 wrote:
I'll correct you. I didn't say I'd kill my wife if she wanted to divorce me. She could go right ahead. What I said is I'd kill her before letting her take my daughter away from me and spiriting her away to Vietnam. If she wanted to divorce me and leave my daughter with me, I would have no beef with her other than losing my wife whom I love very much.
Urbane Guerrilla • Jul 1, 2010 10:47 am
Nirvana;667700 wrote:
Is it a sign of the apocalypse to agree with UG? :eyebrow:


Fun's fun -- but in a word, no.:D
TheMercenary • Jul 1, 2010 10:56 am
Clodfobble;667062 wrote:
Heh, it's all long-term vs. short-term. I can remember Radar's Jerry-Springer-drama from a couple years ago, but I'm not sure if I even had breakfast this morning, let alone what I might or might not have had.
:3eye: First sign of old age dementia.