Used Car Buying

Perry Winkle • Feb 27, 2009 11:05 am
I could have sworn I saw a thread about this at one point. I can't seem to find it, so here are my questions. This is my first car, so be gentle.

I'll be buying from a dealer. Do I need to get insurance before I start doing test drives?

In Virginia, and previously New York, I was always covered on my parents' State Farm policy. Now that I've permanently (hopefully) moved out and am living far away, I need to get my own policy. I assume, the dealer won't sell me a car if I don't have insurance. What's the usual way of getting insurance when getting a new car, when you don't already have coverage?

Fun fact: My current top pick in the area's used car market is a 2007 Kia Rondo.
glatt • Feb 27, 2009 11:44 am
Perry Winkle;539306 wrote:
Do I need to get insurance before I start doing test drives?


This is an interesting question. I think the dealer's insurance will cover damage to the car they own, but probably wouldn't cover your personal liability if you crippled someone in an accident. Most states require that you have liability insurance to drive, but I don't think an insurance agent would be willing to give you car insurance without knowing what kind of car you would be buying. The rates are based in part on the car you buy.

I'm sure the dealer would be more than happy to sell you anything. I seriously doubt you need insurance for the dealer to sell you the car.

The bottom line is that I don't actually know the answer. A call to a local insurance agent would tell you.
lookout123 • Feb 27, 2009 1:02 pm
In AZ the dealership insurance covers everything. They want people test driving vehicles and only require insurance to drive a purchased vehicle off the lot.
lumberjim • Feb 27, 2009 1:12 pm
Perry Winkle;539306 wrote:
I could have sworn I saw a thread about this at one point. I can't seem to find it, so here are my questions. This is my first car, so be gentle.

I'll be buying from a dealer. Do I need to get insurance before I start doing test drives?

the dealer's garage policy covers the car as long as a salesman is with you


In Virginia, and previously New York, I was always covered on my parents' State Farm policy. Now that I've permanently (hopefully) moved out and am living far away, I need to get my own policy. I assume, the dealer won't sell me a car if I don't have insurance. What's the usual way of getting insurance when getting a new car, when you don't already have coverage?

Fun fact: My current top pick in the area's used car market is a 2007 Kia Rondo.

call geico first and get a quote, then call from the showroom and finalize it
Perry Winkle • Feb 27, 2009 1:13 pm
lookout123;539345 wrote:
In AZ the dealership insurance covers everything. They want people test driving vehicles and only require insurance to drive a purchased vehicle off the lot.


My question is that, if I need insurance to drive the car off the lot, how do I get it when all of the quote things ask you about the cars you own? I'm assuming I can just call up an insurance company when I am ready to buy and they'll sell me a policy and provide proof of insurance by fax or something.

I keep trying to call agents in my area but none of them will answer their damn phones.

I must be making this harder than it is.
Perry Winkle • Feb 27, 2009 1:14 pm
lumberjim;539346 wrote:

call geico first and get a quote, then call from the showroom and finalize it


That's exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks.
LabRat • Feb 27, 2009 1:18 pm
Perry Winkle;539347 wrote:
I keep trying to call agents in my area but none of them will answer their damn phones.


Alternatively, call a dealership that you might be interested in buying the car from. Let them know you are looking at buying a car, but currently do not own one, and thus do not have insurance either. Might they be able to recommend a few? Many insurance agents schmooze with salesmen to get clients in exactly your situation. ;) A busy agent is more likely to answer a call from a buddies number first, before an unknown one.

PS geico suxors. dble ;)
lookout123 • Feb 27, 2009 1:21 pm
Jim nailed it on the head. We actually had a company out here for awhile that had an ATM-like kiosk in the showroom to buy shortterm policies to cover the first 30-60 days while you shop for better insurance on the new car.
classicman • Feb 27, 2009 1:25 pm
lookout123;539351 wrote:
Jim nailed it on the head. We actually had a company out here for awhile that had an ATM-like kiosk in the showroom to buy shortterm policies to cover the first 30-60 days while you shop for better insurance on the new car.


Was it expensive?
Perry Winkle • Feb 27, 2009 1:41 pm
LabRat;539349 wrote:

PS geico suxors. dble ;)


And from the quotes I just got they are 1.33 times more expensive than State Farm and 2.33 times as expensive as Progressive.
lookout123 • Feb 27, 2009 3:10 pm
classicman;539353 wrote:
Was it expensive?

Yes. The reps for the company would even tell you that upfront. They only marketed themselves as a bandaid until you got your regular insurance set up. The only ones who kept it long term would be the ones unable or unwilling to be insured elsewhere.
Pie • Feb 27, 2009 3:21 pm
Perry Winkle;539359 wrote:
And from the quotes I just got they are 1.33 times more expensive than State Farm and 2.33 times as expensive as Progressive.

Interesting. SF was by far the most expensive quote we got. Geico was the best, and the one we eventually picked. They paid for me to fix a chip in my windscreen with no hassle (or deductible) at all. Hope I'm not in for a rude surprise later! :eyebrow:
classicman • Feb 27, 2009 5:12 pm
LabRat wrote:

PS geico suxors. dble


Perry Winkle;539359 wrote:
And from the quotes I just got they are 1.33 times more expensive than State Farm and 2.33 times as expensive as Progressive.

I'll make an assumption here that you do NOT currently have insurance. If that is correct, go with progressive for 6 months and then call Geico again. You'll be amazed - pleasantly.

Been there done that. Oh, and good luck with the car.

Pie;539374 wrote:
Interesting. Geico was the best, and the one we eventually picked.

Me too - been really happy with them for over 5 years now - and yes I have had claims.
lumberjim • Feb 27, 2009 5:41 pm
their customer service is second to none. I deal with them daily.
Perry Winkle • Mar 7, 2009 1:33 am
Ended up with a Black 2007 Kia Rondo with 26,000 miles. I really like it so far. Does okay in the snow without snow tires.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 7, 2009 2:29 am
Little late but...
http://www.automopedia.org/2009/02/09/what-if-you-crash-during-a-dealer-test-drive/
BrianR • Mar 7, 2009 11:20 am
another satisfied Geico customer here. Been with them for 12 years now, no claims but have talked to their reps and had a pleasant call each time. My rates are reasonable, full coverage on my new Avalanche, previous coverage on my motorcycles, I will put my RV on the policy as well if the rates don't go up TOO much.
Shawnee123 • Mar 7, 2009 11:27 am
I left Geico for a while but went back. I chose them at first like I've chosen other services: if their website is user-friendly and accessible, I feel like they probably care about their consumers. I looked around, but went back.


Plus I love cavemen and geckos.