Terrier Breeds

busterb • Feb 17, 2009 11:27 pm
Anyone know what breed the Terrier is that's in Pet smart commercial?
My rat terrier is close to 14, plus I'm getting up there also. Might need a replacement for one of us someday. :bolt:
busterb • Feb 18, 2009 7:52 pm
PetSmart generally uses dogs from our adoption partners in their
commercials. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing the breed of dog
in that commercial.
wolf • Feb 18, 2009 8:20 pm
If you mean the senior dog that gets pushed around in the shopping cart (just saw it today) and gets pushed around past a young yellow lab and a dal ... I think it looked like a rough coated Jack Russell.
morethanpretty • Feb 18, 2009 8:34 pm
I don't know what kind of dog that is in the commercial. I do suggest you visit the local animal shelters and find a dog that you like from there. Keep your mind open on breed, think more about personality/size. Good luck!
busterb • Feb 18, 2009 9:28 pm
Thanks wolf. I believe it's either a rough coated or broken coat Jack Russell. In add it looks a bit large for one though. MTP. I have a yard dog from shelter.
Not much choice around here.
wolf • Feb 19, 2009 4:54 pm
I thought the basket looked smaller than the regular supermarket kind.

If the television adds ten inches, or whatever it's supposed to do, then it's a Jack. Otherwise, perhaps a wire-haired fox terrier, but clipped close instead of show cut?
wolf • Feb 19, 2009 5:00 pm
Jack Russell.

When did they start calling them Parson Jack Russells?

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Shawnee123 • Feb 19, 2009 6:47 pm
Jack Russels are high energy dogs. Very good dogs, but too high energy for me. They're cuter than snot, though.
be-bop • Feb 19, 2009 7:17 pm
I know I'm biased as i have one but if you are into terriers try a Border Terrier not as psycho as a Jack Russell but as brave and loyal as they come who could not love this face
Shawnee123 • Feb 19, 2009 7:22 pm
Oh my word, how freaking cute.

Of course, I'm partial to Irish Wolfhounds. They have a terrier face...they're just really huge! They are not terriers...but those faces!
busterb • Feb 19, 2009 11:46 pm
I know I'm biased as i have one but if you are into terriers try a Border Terrier not as psycho as a Jack Russell but as brave and loyal as they come who could not love this face
Thanks. Do they have to be trimmed, clipped, or whatever?
DanaC • Feb 20, 2009 5:49 am
They're called Parson Jack Russells over here. Don't know how long that's been the case, but it was so when I was dog hunting about 11 years ago.
Sundae • Feb 20, 2009 7:14 am
Our dog was a Jack Russell/ Collie cross.
We got her from a local farm.

She could run all day, and in the summer holidays she often did.

Sadly, my brother chose her because she was the runt of the litter, and consequently the least forward (we were getting a dog because he was very afraid of them and my Mum feared it might affect his life - he would cry if one came near him). She was much loved, but had heart problems and diabetes and in the end had to be put down. Mum is sure this is because she was half the size of the other dogs which was probably a sign that she didn't receive proper nutrition in the womb.

Anyway, just an aside. She was a lovely dog and well suited to our family. And my brother, although he is very much a cat person like me, no longer cries when apporached by a dog.
TheMercenary • Feb 20, 2009 7:29 am
The Parson Russell Terrier was recognized by the UK Kennel Club in 1990, followed by Australia and FCI countries, then American Kennel Club in 2001, as Parson Jack Russell Terrier and then in the USA as the Jack Russell Terrier, Because the name Parson Jack Russell was registered in the USA by a person who did not wish to relenquish their trade mark, the Kennel Clubs of the world had to "re-badge" the PJRT to PRT to accommodate this problem. So now the taller type of Russell is a Parson Russell (over 12") and the shorter version is a Jack Russell (10-12").

The Parson Russell Terrier is descended from early white-bodied foxing terriers used in the hunt field. At the end of the 19th Century, these dogs were drawn into the Kennel Club as "fox terriers," but their still-working antecedents were referred to as "Jack Russell" terriers throughout the 20th Century, in honor of the Rev. John "Jack" Russell, a noted fox hunter of the 19th Century "The Sporting Parson".

In time, Kennel Club Fox Terriers and working Jack Russell Terriers looked completely different, with fox terriers growing both larger in the chest and also having longer heads.

The name was changed to "Parson Russell" Terrier for the American Kennel Club because of a compromise with the Jack Russell Terrier Club of America. The rest of the world recognises Jack Russell and Parson Russell as 2 separate breeds.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parson_Russell_Terrier
Shawnee123 • Feb 20, 2009 8:16 am
DanaC;536642 wrote:
They're called Parson Jack Russells over here. Don't know how long that's been the case, but it was so when I was dog hunting about 11 years ago.


Did you shoot one? :D

:lol2:
dar512 • Feb 20, 2009 10:50 am
Shawnee123;536672 wrote:
Did you shoot one? :D

:lol2:

Great minds and all that. I was going to post the same thing until I saw yours.
Shawnee123 • Feb 20, 2009 10:53 am
The greatest of minds. :)
wolf • Feb 20, 2009 1:18 pm
She's British, so I was picturing her in elegantly tailored hunting pinks on the back of a bay gelding.
be-bop • Feb 20, 2009 5:53 pm
busterb;536598 wrote:
Thanks. Do they have to be trimmed, clipped, or whatever?



No they are bred with a double coat and they have to be hand stripped,you can do it yourself but it takes a bit of time to get right.we take ours to the Dog Parlour once or twice a year.
cost is minimal about £30 twice a year.
Some people leave them shaggy looking but they get very hot in the summer unstripped
Undertoad • Feb 20, 2009 6:02 pm
Here's a page with a very shaggy border terrier, before, during, and after handstripping:

http://www.munakennels.com/handstripping.html

They also have before and after of a cairn terrier and an irish terrier. It's actually kinda hilarious.

I like a shorthair dog because there's no maintenance, but I'm sure I could take a dog to a shop every 6 months.
DanaC • Feb 21, 2009 6:00 am
We had Westies when I was a kid. One of them had something wrong with his fur. We didn't know until we took him to have his undercoat stripped, and then it never grew back! He always looked slightly pink through the long white fur:P


[eta] looked even pinker when my bro and me died the two westies with food colouring ... didn't tell mum. Just dyed them while she was out and left them for her to find. One candyfloss pink, one mint green; both with a blue cross daubed on their foreheads and a helium balloon attached to each collar:)
TheMercenary • Feb 22, 2009 12:02 pm
:lol2: Dana that is evil. I love it. What was her reaction?
Sundae • Feb 22, 2009 12:42 pm
Tina is well experienced in the art of handstripping a dog whether it be to get your dog ready for a show or to make your pet look the way it was intended.

Not by nature!

I have to admit how much better they look though. And I'm sure it's a relief to them too - it's just the wording made me go :eyebrow:
DanaC • Feb 22, 2009 2:36 pm
@ merc. she was surprised. baffled at first. :P What we hadn't banked on was that the dye wouldn't wash back out... they stayed like that for about 6 or 7 weeks til it faded and grew out.
sweetwater • Feb 22, 2009 2:52 pm
A dog with its coat is better protected from the sun than a dog who has been shaved down "to keep him cool", though I've worked with groomers and had to do it when owners demand it. I think mostly they don't want to be bothered with maintaining the coats, but say otherwise, thinking we'd believe it. *sigh* Stripping coats is mostly to keep them hard, as required by the standards, because clippering can make them grow back softer. Do what is easier for the dog if it is not going to be shown.
busterb • Feb 24, 2009 9:34 pm
Border Terriers are like hens teeth in the south. I check online adds in most newspapers in my state and Neu awlins. + Don't think I'll ever pay $650 and up for a dog.
busterb • Mar 26, 2009 8:08 pm
This mutt showed up a few days ago. Cute as hell. Young male, which seems to come and go. I've fed, petted and fixed a place for it to sleep.
Two people have called today and asked if mine. Not yet.
morethanpretty • Mar 26, 2009 8:34 pm
Its adorable Buster!
sugarpop • Mar 26, 2009 9:03 pm
awww, what a cute puppy!

My sister has always gotten a lion cut on her chow in the summer, because it's wicked humid and hot here during the summer. Last year her hair didn't grow back on her sides. it finally did grow back on one side, but the other side just has fuzz on it. :D
classicman • Mar 26, 2009 9:38 pm
Now that you posted pics he's yours. There are rules ya know.
busterb • Mar 27, 2009 12:15 am
Last night he was gone. Today came back. Just turned on outside light and he's in box I fixed for bed. But it's raining, again. Weather hasn't been nice in south past day or so.
busterb • Mar 27, 2009 12:42 am
In this one, you can see his eyes.
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xoxoxoBruce • Mar 27, 2009 12:49 am
He's a beauty, looks healthy and well taken care of though. Maybe he's from a family with a lot of kids and comes over for a rest. ;)
How old do you figure he is? Has he been neutered?
DanaC • Mar 27, 2009 8:05 am
He looks very well cared for. He is absolutely lovely. And he clearly feels comfortable and trusting of you.

[eta] I want to bite that little black nose. I am betting it'd taste of liquorice.
TheMercenary • Mar 27, 2009 8:42 am
Great looking dog. You need to go ahead and adopt him. :)
Trilby • Mar 27, 2009 11:00 am
you know what's weird? I just got a Jack Russel terrier (by accident) yesterday.

i've never had a dog...now I have this JR.

she is four and her name is Autumn. (she came already named0


I asked the Universe for a little black cat and I got a JR terrier. weird.

eta--dana! don't bite his nose!!
Shawnee123 • Mar 27, 2009 11:30 am
Awww, cutie doggie.
Pico and ME • Mar 27, 2009 12:53 pm
Bri, your Jack Russell will be a lot more fun and engaging than a kitty.
DanaC • Mar 27, 2009 10:16 pm
Oh! You have a Jack Russell! They are such playful mischievous creatures. That's one of the breeds I considered when I was last puppyhunting.
Shawnee123 • Mar 28, 2009 10:19 am
An old friend had a JR. They are QUITE playful. That dog was darling, but way too much energy for me. It never ever stopped bouncing off the walls, like a little pinball. I suspect it was probably more wired than average for the breed, though. They are really sweet.
sugarpop • Mar 28, 2009 9:19 pm
Pico and ME;550110 wrote:
Bri, your Jack Russell will be a lot more fun and engaging than a kitty.


ummmm, I dunno. I love dogs, but cats can supply hours of entertainment. :D I love my kitties.
sugarpop • Mar 28, 2009 9:21 pm
Brianna;550021 wrote:
you know what's weird? I just got a Jack Russel terrier (by accident) yesterday.

i've never had a dog...now I have this JR.

she is four and her name is Autumn. (she came already named0


I asked the Universe for a little black cat and I got a JR terrier. weird.

eta--dana! don't bite his nose!!


I wonder how that worked? :D

Jack Russels are great though. My brother has one. She has springs on her feet. :D
sugarpop • Mar 28, 2009 9:24 pm
TheMercenary;549962 wrote:
Great looking dog. You need to go ahead and adopt him. :)


I'm with Merc. He's very cute and adorable. I would have to adopt him. But I suppose you could put an advertisement in the paper, just in case he belongs to someone.
xoxoxoBruce • Mar 28, 2009 9:34 pm
But maybe he lives with kids and comes to Buster's for a rest. :haha:
busterb • Mar 28, 2009 11:40 pm
Guess the little shit was just using my place for a crash pad, or someone picked him. Not seen for 2 days. Crap!
morethanpretty • Mar 28, 2009 11:47 pm
Oh noes! Well buster, guess it just wasn't meant to be.
Shawnee123 • Mar 29, 2009 12:34 am
busterb;550568 wrote:
Guess the little shit was just using my place for a crash pad, or someone picked him. Not seen for 2 days. Crap!


Awww, bummer. :( Maybe he'll be back.
sugarpop • Mar 29, 2009 1:24 am
:(
BrianR • Mar 29, 2009 11:29 am
Anyone wanting to adopt a Shih Tzu, spayed and shots, let me know. I'll post a pic later.
sugarpop • Mar 29, 2009 12:15 pm
We need another medium sized guard dog. My sister's chow is getting on in age and she is starting to have some problems. We've (mostly I've) been thinking about what kind of dog we should get next. I would like a doberman or pit bill or another chow, maybe an akita. I just don't know. My sister wants a rotweiler I think.
BrianR • Mar 29, 2009 2:24 pm
Rotties are great dogs. Chows can be tough to control. Any dog that is medium or larger with strong territorial instincts can be a good guard dog. My personal favorite is the German Shepherd Dog. Beautiful, intelligent and loving. Easily trained and controlled, good temperament and socially acceptable. What's not to love?
Shawnee123 • Mar 29, 2009 4:56 pm
I was thinking of a GS, too. They are beautiful, smart, and sweet. BrianR did you see the GS pic in lol cats... thread? They're so awesome. The ex and I used to dogsit our friends' German Shepherd (good old Minga, RIP girl) and she was about the best dog I ever knew, besides Zeke the Wonder Dog.
Undertoad • Mar 29, 2009 5:30 pm
GSDs are beautiful. A lot of them have bad hips though.
Shawnee123 • Mar 29, 2009 10:49 pm
yeah, Minga did. Poor old girl, we'd help her get onto the couch, when she was older.
busterb • May 14, 2009 10:09 pm
Well the little shit is in my kitchen, now and Dottie doesn't know how to take this. Sitting beside me now.
Guess I'll step in something nice tomorrow. After Dr. visit about my knees I'm too tired to try to bath the little shit.
xoxoxoBruce • May 15, 2009 1:29 am
Any signs he's had a collar on him?
Juniper • May 15, 2009 2:10 am
Shawnee123;550798 wrote:
I was thinking of a GS, too. They are beautiful, smart, and sweet. BrianR did you see the GS pic in lol cats... thread? They're so awesome. The ex and I used to dogsit our friends' German Shepherd (good old Minga, RIP girl) and she was about the best dog I ever knew, besides Zeke the Wonder Dog.


I have a German Shepherd. His name is Maverick. Have I ever mentioned him here?
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He's awesome. He was 4 when we adopted him, 2 years ago. Had some emotional issues, didn't like women, but he's really come around. He's sweet and gentle and sensitive and playful and we love him to bits!

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DanaC • May 15, 2009 3:59 am
Oh post more, post more! I love Maverick. He's gorgeous. He's one of my favourite doggie-dwellars.

I particularly like the snippy snap jaws on that top pic lol. That reminds me of Pil when he's trying it on. Usually as we're leaving for a walk when he thinks I;m not going fast enough/in the wrong direction. This often precipitates a stern conversation about etiquette and whether or not he'll live to see another day if he shots at me like that again.

He also does snappy jaws when he's playing. I try to catch his nose and he does snappy jaws pretending to try and get my hand. (there's no force to it. He's just swinging his jaws about pretending to snap). Looks for all the world like laughing :P
classicman • May 15, 2009 8:34 am
My what big ears you have...


He's a nice lookin dog!
busterb • May 15, 2009 12:56 pm
Well, the little shit had run of house last night. So, only a few shoes moved around, chewed the label off a 100 pack of DVDs. No crap on floor that I've found. Yet!!
So We need a name once again from the Dellars.
Shelia is fine, been doing some spring cleaning on her tunnel to downunder.
busterb • May 15, 2009 8:14 pm
Today 3 dog fights in house 1 in yard. I picked up 3 rawhide bones today, 1 for each. Then they fight over the bones. Go figure ?
I'm wondering if the gleam in his brown eyes are the debils eyes?
Undertoad • May 15, 2009 10:28 pm
We need a name


He's halfway between a Brother and Trouble so I'm thinking Bubble, Bub for short, or Bubba if you want to go more southern. Or Hobo, since he's obviously a beggar.
xoxoxoBruce • May 16, 2009 4:06 am
Devil dog? call him Radar. :haha:
busterb • May 19, 2009 9:37 pm
@ UT. That fits. Was thinking about Scottie, but it sounds like Dottie, Not that if makes a lot of difference to them.

@Bruce. Oh No. That would be a bad hit on Mash. Plus when he gets grown, his politics would be screwed. He would marry a lady from Southeast Asia and want a hot dog cart.
:biggrin:
xoxoxoBruce • May 20, 2009 2:07 am
:lol2:
capnhowdy • May 20, 2009 7:44 am
I had a dog one time that looked similar to yours, Buster. His hair was coarse and wiry so I named him "Brillo". That was one cool dog.
Queen of the Ryche • May 20, 2009 11:40 am
He looks like a "Chuck" or a "Charlie" to me.
busterb • May 22, 2009 10:37 pm
Well he's Hobo. Today the little shit gnawed the end off a power cord for floppy drive that I left hanging over the table edge.
capnhowdy • May 23, 2009 1:04 am
Spank him with it. It works.
limey • May 23, 2009 7:07 am
Congratulations Buster! You've been chosen by Hobo as his preferred place of habitation!
He looks a real character - watch OUT!
busterb • May 25, 2009 11:17 pm
Thanks. Limey. Dotty and the little sob seems to have sorted out most of their problems.
busterb • Jun 5, 2009 1:20 pm
Today's senor discount day, so Hobo's at beauty shop today for a trim, shots and what ever. Before & after photos later. Trying to get a voucher for neutering, so he will get clipped when, if, I get one.
Shawnee123 • Jun 5, 2009 1:24 pm
I thought neutering required an "oucher."

Ba Dum dum

Must see pics!
busterb • Jun 5, 2009 1:27 pm
:biggrin:
busterb • Jun 5, 2009 5:54 pm
This goat roping started out at $77 bucks and ended at $93.
Anyway I don't like, changed the whole character of dog.
Before and after.
Shawnee123 • Jun 5, 2009 6:58 pm
Awwww wook at his widdle face!

My brother has a Golden and they get that thick curly hair cut off every summer. Jack loves it...so did Zeke. Zeke's hair wasn't curly and thick as Jack's is, though.

It'll grow back, but he's cuter than heck either way.
Shawnee123 • Jun 5, 2009 6:59 pm
We need a pic of Bri's JR, ya know! :)
BrianR • Jun 6, 2009 3:34 pm
the groomer did the same thing to our Shih-Tzus. They went in for a trim and came out NAKED! You can see the pigmentation on their skin through their "coats". I'll try to get the wife to send a pic that I can post.
capnhowdy • Jun 6, 2009 8:20 pm
I'm thinking about cutting Frank's hair cut but I hate to see him muzzled. I takes him days to get over the attitude that he's been violated. He would like the short hair, but the process seems to humiliate him.
busterb • Jun 8, 2009 7:55 pm
I gave some thought about using my credit to pay for this and said, Naw. Have to login to BOA. So I paid by debit. No recourse.. I'm just glad that I no longer drink Jose Cuervo. And I bet there's some folks at vets office that could feel the same way Or I might be on other side of jail house fence in my back yard.
Anyway Hobo has been going to park up the street in late afternoon, I know of no way to break him. Today I went to Dr. and left Dottie and Hobo in kitchen from 10:30 am till 5pm and no mess.
Cap. I agree with you. I think it traumatize the little shit. Lady told me would see how he did w/clipper and might had to sedated him. No way will I pay 15 bucks to make your job easy. So she asked if it was OK, a little more off. Right down to the flappin hide.
Did a worm test that I didn't order. Hell I knew dog had worms. maybe from birth.
I've been looking after dogs almost 50 years and I need no butthole to charge, tell me what to do. Part rant!! Carry on
busterb • Jun 9, 2009 10:52 pm
Hobo was at park again this afternoon. I talked, begged and when I left he chased me home in car. Go figure, guess it's a game to him.
Dottie, Hobo playing.
xoxoxoBruce • Jun 10, 2009 1:49 am
I wonder if he goes back because someone left him there originally?
Undertoad • Jun 10, 2009 10:08 am
A Jack may need obedience training before he gives a crap what you say, B. :)
capnhowdy • Jun 10, 2009 8:44 pm
You don't train JRT's... they train you. Trust me.
busterb • Jun 16, 2009 4:19 pm
Hobo has found his bed at night, and sometimes comes to the whistle. Stiil hits the park.
Never got a voucher for nueter. ( So as Shanee123 said) he having an oucher done today. Pick him, her, it up tomorrow. Dog is playing hell with my money.
dar512 • Jun 16, 2009 5:06 pm
busterb;574724 wrote:
Dog is playing hell with my money.

That's part of their job. :D
busterb • Jun 17, 2009 10:31 pm
Hobo will now be known as Hobo-ette and he doesn't seem none to happy about it.
Can't say I blame him. So for a damn stray, I'm out about $250. Oh-Well anyone want to adopt a virtual pet? Send money to Hobo in care of me.
busterb • Jun 20, 2009 10:34 pm
Tonight I let the dogs out and turned Shelia loose also. What a show. They ran around the jail fence till, I guess they all gave out. Hobo runs like a rabbit.
MoonFreckle • Jun 24, 2009 8:23 am
Undertoad;572415 wrote:
A Jack may need obedience training before he gives a crap what you say, B. :)


This is our Jack to a tee...He doesn't give Jack Shit when we want him to come:(...He's clever otherwise:)
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Trilby • Jun 24, 2009 8:58 am
capnhowdy;572614 wrote:
You don't train JRT's... they train you. Trust me.


a hearty AMEN, BRO!

Autumn is smart, fash as lightning and WILL NOT COME WHEN CALLED. She's a little demon, she is.

But we wuuuuuuuv her. :)
limey • Jun 24, 2009 9:25 am
Buster, thanks for all the updates on Hobo. He does look cute as all-get-out, but he'll lead you a merry dance. But you know that already ;). Please keep posting pics and reports!
DanaC • Jun 24, 2009 11:27 am
most terriers are stubborn little buggers with their own ideas on when and how to do things *chuckles* Jacks more so than most, but westies are almost as bad :P
capnhowdy • Jun 24, 2009 7:58 pm
Sometimes Frank and Trixie get a little too close to the road while they do potty biz, or fuck up some way like wandering too far in the woods, etc. I have a designated "puppy swatter" that I use to enforce commands. I rarely touch them with it and when I do I lightly 'spank'". When they screw up I yell at them and start toward them with the puppy swatter. Trixie disappears like a ghost. No way to get near her at that time. The times I have tapped her with the swatter she screamed as if I were killing her. Took hours for her to stop sulking.
Frank, (JRT) on the other hand... you go at him and he just sits there..staring in your eyes and waiting. You can spank him all you want and he'll never make any effort to run away or never utter a whimper. When your done, and he's damn ready he does what you want. Acts as if you never even talked to him, like he doesn't recall any of it.
If he's lying next to you in bed or on the sofa, when you need to get up and he's in your way you can tell him to move all day and he ignores you. You have to physically pick him up and move him. Trixie jumps out of the way every time you flinch.
What a pair. I love 'em.
busterb • Jun 25, 2009 2:48 pm
Cap. You tell Hobo something and you can see the wheels turning. Hobo. "Right, I'll get back to that later." I move a twin bed into living, junk, computer room in summer and close off rest of house.
On mantel is a Tiger whatnot. So Hobo sneaks and jumps on my bed, barks a few times and back in kitchen before I can catch him.
A mouse trap under paper works for some dogs, he came dragging the paper and trap to kitchen. Oh for a shocking collar.
busterb • Jul 1, 2009 10:25 pm
I've realized that the Vet cut the wrong thing off, should have cut his flappin head off.
Monday I had to go for an endoscopy. Let the dogs out, got a call, Hobo was at Chevron. Crossed 2 highways to get there. Today I had to go to VA for new leg brace.
SOB was at Shortstop after I let them out this am.
Tonight when I got home I turned them loose. Lady called from park, another from video store. I found the little shit in parking lot between Wards and Shortstop. Took 4 or 5 liver treats before I could catch him. No one will pick him up because they can't catch him.
But a log truck or something will leave a spot in road.
A damn street dog is what he is, and I know of no way to brake him?
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 2, 2009 1:36 am
How about tying the dogs to each other?
Undertoad • Jul 2, 2009 9:13 am
A Jack may need obedience training before he gives a crap what you say, B. :)
Trilby • Jul 2, 2009 9:27 am
Buster, I know how you feel. Autumn will take off like a shot and she is impossible to catch. To her, it's all a game. When I turn around and quit chasing her, she comes back but you're right about being a spot on the road - these Jack's just don't pay any mind to anything but their noses. I'm going to take her to obedience class - I'm fed up with it. Good luck!
sugarpop • Jul 2, 2009 4:27 pm
busterb;571154 wrote:
This goat roping started out at $77 bucks and ended at $93.
Anyway I don't like, changed the whole character of dog.
Before and after.


WOW. They really butchered him. Was he supposed to be naked like that, or just clipped?

My mom and sister used to take their dogs (a chow and a silky) to Petsmart to be groomed. The last time they took them, they both came out naked like that. I told them I would have refused to pay, because it is CLEARLY not what they ordered. And as I said, the overcoat on the chow still hasn't grown back, to this day. She just has the wooly undercoat on one side.

I adopted a husky over the weekend, and you can bet she won't be getting trimmed. The coat helps keep them cool as much as it keeps them warm. I think I want to learn how to groom her and do it myself. Some groomers are just too unpredictable.

She went in today to be spayed, and when they opened her up they found an abcess in the bellybutton area, so they removed it and she is on antibiotics for 10 days. She is so damn sweet though, and SMART! She smart as hell, and stubborn too. HA! Reminds me of me. :D

*edit to add* shaving a dog down to the skin also makes them vulnerable to sunburn.
sugarpop • Jul 2, 2009 4:49 pm
The dog needs training. He needs to know YOU are the pack leader. Maybe you should write to Cesar Milan, you could end up on TV. :D Here is a link to his website... http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/about/

Seriously though. I've been watching the Dog Whisperer a lot lately, and when it comes to dog psychology, that man is a GENIUS. I swear I think he was a dog in a past life.
capnhowdy • Jul 2, 2009 8:24 pm
Until you've raised a JRT you really can't understand. Srsly.

My Frank would eat Cesar's lunch for breafast. I took him to a pre-screen thingie to apply for obedience training. He was like the church of god/holiness kid at gym class or at the pool. Just sat on the sidelines and refused to interact. He picked out a female from the crowd and instantly fell in love. After that he was focusing ENTIRELY on the bitch and all else was irrelevant.

@Buster.
I think you're just gonna have to do some serious fencing. Maximum security type.
busterb • Jul 2, 2009 11:38 pm
Cap. I'm looking at my bank book and thinking a shock collar. I had one before for Dotty, it worked. Only if they'll let me return if he gets ran over before I get it.
Then I'll have to get dressed before I let them out, so I can keep an eye on his fast moving ass.
I kinda wish I had popped him in butt with BB gun and got his tail away from here first time I saw him in yard.
busterb • Jul 2, 2009 11:42 pm
Bruce I've given that some thought. Along with turning Shelia loose and sticking his butt on the wire. Shelia comes when I call and lets me hook her up again.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 3, 2009 12:25 am
There was a guy with a VW garage on a real busy main drag near here, that kept the old dog and the young dog tied together with about 2 feet of rope.
The old dog kept the youngster out of traffic
capnhowdy • Jul 3, 2009 11:16 pm
xoxoxoBruce;579314 wrote:
There was a guy with a VW garage on a real busy main drag near here, that kept the old dog and the young dog tied together with about 2 feet of rope.
The old dog kept the youngster out of traffic


I thought you were joking about this. But it really does make good sense.:)
Undertoad • Jul 4, 2009 10:12 am
Some dogs will fight if they are trapped in close quarters though.
sugarpop • Jul 4, 2009 10:41 pm
capnhowdy;579269 wrote:
Until you've raised a JRT you really can't understand. Srsly.

My Frank would eat Cesar's lunch for breafast. I took him to a pre-screen thingie to apply for obedience training. He was like the church of god/holiness kid at gym class or at the pool. Just sat on the sidelines and refused to interact. He picked out a female from the crowd and instantly fell in love. After that he was focusing ENTIRELY on the bitch and all else was irrelevant.

@Buster.
I think you're just gonna have to do some serious fencing. Maximum security type.


I don't know. Cesar's handled JRTs on the show before. And my brother and sil has a JRT.
busterb • Jul 4, 2009 11:10 pm
Wonder if they ever show the F@#-ups? Why, no It's all taped and he has bull shit his way into big money. You watch him, I'll do the best I can for my 3 dogs.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 5, 2009 12:42 am
See that's the problem, they need a 4th for bridge. :haha:
monster • Jul 5, 2009 12:45 pm
Can't you tie him to a post on a long rope, in reach of shade and water?
Undertoad • Jul 5, 2009 1:44 pm
or set up a dog run, a trolley system: http://www.unchainyourdog.org/Trolley.htm
busterb • Jul 5, 2009 9:33 pm
I have over 100' of cable for Shelia. No room for another. No I don't like to tie a dog with a chain or rope. Shelia is loose now and past 2 days, but she comes when called.
monster • Jul 5, 2009 9:36 pm
What do you mean, no room for another?
capnhowdy • Jul 6, 2009 6:57 am
Where I live, if Animal Control sees your dog outside a fence with no leash, it's a $150.00 fine.
I understand they are trying to expedite a law that prohibits "tethering" which is having any animal on a rope or chain unless it's a leash while you walk the animal.
capnhowdy • Jul 6, 2009 7:03 am
Yep. And the trend is spreading all over the US.
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 6, 2009 11:17 am
That's just fucking stupid. :mad:
busterb • Jul 6, 2009 1:14 pm
monster;579791 wrote:
What do you mean, no room for another?


No place in yard for another cable run.
capnhowdy • Jul 6, 2009 4:56 pm
xoxoxoBruce;579871 wrote:
That's just fucking stupid. :mad:


I totally agree.:mad2:
sugarpop • Jul 7, 2009 6:43 pm
capnhowdy;579826 wrote:
Where I live, if Animal Control sees your dog outside a fence with no leash, it's a $150.00 fine.
I understand they are trying to expedite a law that prohibits "tethering" which is having any animal on a rope or chain unless it's a leash while you walk the animal.


If your dog is outside a fence with no leash, and you are nowhere in sight, you should be fined.

One of our neighbor's dogs (a pit bull puppy) got loose the other day and attacked a woman walking her dog (a shitzu). And the puppy KNEW the dog/woman he attacked. She lives in a small rental unit behind their house. She told the police she didn't want to file charges or have anything happen to the puppy. The shitzu that was attacked was taken to my vet. She (vet) told us the injured dog was OK, it wasn't really hurt. All the blood in the street (and there was a LOT) and on the dog actually belonged to the woman, because she was bitten numerous times while trying to get her dog away from the puppy.

I didn't even KNOW the people had a dog, and apparently they have THREE, all pit bulls. They never walk them, which is probably WHY there was a problem in the first place. I swear, some people just should not have dogs. Dogs need to walk, every day. Some need to walk more than others. But they ALL need to walk. AND they ALL need discipline (rules, not punishment).
sugarpop • Jul 7, 2009 6:56 pm
busterb;579633 wrote:
Wonder if they ever show the F@#-ups? Why, no It's all taped and he has bull shit his way into big money. You watch him, I'll do the best I can for my 3 dogs.


Depends on what you mean by f***kups. He gets bitten all the time. In one show, at the end of the show, he said one of the owners had put down one of the dogs featured on the show. It's sad too, because Cesar would have taken him and put him in his pack. Many times, if he is working with a person who he believes cannot handle the dog, he will exchange it for one of the dogs in his pack. The dogs in his pack (at any time he has around 40 dogs at his psychology center) are all balanced. They all get along with each other. They are not aggressive.

When I went to Petsmart the other day with my newly adopted dog, I met the trainer (he said I should put my dog in the advanced class there). He said he had met Cesar back before he had a TV show, and Cesar had told him in order to train dogs, he needed to know what he (Cesar) did (which is dog psychology, not training). The man said he was absolutely right, it has been valuable knowledge.

It IS a TV show though, so of course they are going to show the best material they have. We have used some of his techniques on our dogs, and they worked. We don't have aggressive or fearful dogs though. If we had one that was too out of control, I would consult a professional, which is what they always say to do on his show.
capnhowdy • Jul 7, 2009 10:31 pm
sugarpop;580132 wrote:
If your dog is outside a fence with no leash, and you are nowhere in sight, you should be fined.

One of our neighbor's dogs (a pit bull puppy) got loose the other day and attacked a woman walking her dog (a shitzu). And the puppy KNEW the dog/woman he attacked. She lives in a small rental unit behind their house. She told the police she didn't want to file charges or have anything happen to the puppy. The shitzu that was attacked was taken to my vet. She (vet) told us the injured dog was OK, it wasn't really hurt. All the blood in the street (and there was a LOT) and on the dog actually belonged to the woman, because she was bitten numerous times while trying to get her dog away from the puppy.

I didn't even KNOW the people had a dog, and apparently they have THREE, all pit bulls. They never walk them, which is probably WHY there was a problem in the first place. I swear, some people just should not have dogs. Dogs need to walk, every day. Some need to walk more than others. But they ALL need to walk. AND they ALL need discipline (rules, not punishment).


My nearest neighbor is a half mile away. I let my dogs out three times a day to potty. I never let them out of my sight.
But the law here is, if I don't have them on a leash, Badaboombaddabing. 150 bucks. Pay the man at the door. The total weight of my two dogs is 35 lbs. What a major threat to my neighbors 2640 feet down the road on the other side of a 5 lane highway.
I agree with you about leashing your pet in certain scenarios. But I've cared for my dogs 7 & 9 years without incident. Now they want me to tie a leash around my buddies' necks every time they need to go outside? I beg to differ. They'll just have to fine me. Fork 'em.:headshake
xoxoxoBruce • Jul 8, 2009 12:40 am
If they try to fine you, shoot the son of a bitch for trespassing.
capnhowdy • Jul 8, 2009 4:34 pm
Don't tempt me. I may get away with it if I blame it on a flashback. I AM unstable, you know.
busterb • Jul 8, 2009 5:29 pm
Sugarpop. How about we agree to disagree and you go F@## Off!
Pico and ME • Jul 8, 2009 6:54 pm
My husband runs in our neighbood. The other day a boxer cornered him and when my husband put his hand out in a friendly gesture, the dog bit him. My husband called the cops on the owners and they are being fined. Its fine and dandy if you live in the country, but if you let your dog run loose in a populated area, you are just asking for Animal Control to pick him up.
Aliantha • Jul 8, 2009 7:09 pm
My dad shot his last dog that wouldn't stay inside the fenceline (it's only a barbed wire fence to keep the neighbours cows out of his property). It kept wandering up to the neighbours place which is about half a km away.

The dog he has now is pretty good. She goes for long gallops all over the place, but never goes up to the neighbours. Her favourite passtime is catching hares and rabbits.

We have two dogs, and if we leave the gate open, they'll bugger off up the street. i don't agree with dogs being 'let out' in residential areas, but when you're in a rural area, it's a bit different imo.
Aliantha • Jul 8, 2009 7:12 pm
Oh, and I wanted to say, Hobo looks identical to a dog I had once. His name was monty and he was a chiwawa x shitzu. Same wiry coat and all. Exactly the same colouring. He was a wanderer. Actually, I should have called him hudini. He could escape any fence. If he couldn't climb it, he'd just dig under it. He spent a lot of time on a long rope, but then he'd bark.

In the end I had to find him a new home when Mum got sick. I didn't have time to look after her and chase a wayward dog all over the neighbourhood.
sugarpop • Jul 11, 2009 1:38 pm
busterb;580350 wrote:
Sugarpop. How about we agree to disagree and you go F@## Off!


Why the hostility? I simply gave an opinion. You disagree? Fine. There is no need to be an asshole about it though.
sugarpop • Jul 11, 2009 1:42 pm
capnhowdy;580200 wrote:
My nearest neighbor is a half mile away. I let my dogs out three times a day to potty. I never let them out of my sight.
But the law here is, if I don't have them on a leash, Badaboombaddabing. 150 bucks. Pay the man at the door. The total weight of my two dogs is 35 lbs. What a major threat to my neighbors 2640 feet down the road on the other side of a 5 lane highway.
I agree with you about leashing your pet in certain scenarios. But I've cared for my dogs 7 & 9 years without incident. Now they want me to tie a leash around my buddies' necks every time they need to go outside? I beg to differ. They'll just have to fine me. Fork 'em.:headshake


That is a little different. I was speaking more in terms of being in close contact with other people. And I acknowledge that some dogs can be off-leash and not run up to other people or attack or act up. Those dogs are well trained. Not all dogs are though, and it's hard to tell if a dog is off leash running around the neighborhood which he will be, unless you know the dog personally. In the country it doesn't matter as much, and I agree the laws should be different in those situations.
capnhowdy • Jul 12, 2009 12:30 pm
Yeah.... really they should have two ordinances. One for city and one for county. But they don't.
If I ever take my dogs to a congested area or any place they are not familiar with, I am sure to leash them. For their safety.
binky • Jul 12, 2009 3:42 pm
Undertoad;572415 wrote:
A Jack may need obedience training before he gives a crap what you say, B. :)


We have a Basenji - Maybe German Shepard (?) mix that is like that. Smart sucker but willful as hell. Sweet, too (thank goodness). He is the first dog I've ever had that I actually wanted.
sugarpop • Jul 13, 2009 10:18 am
binky;581067 wrote:
We have a Basenji - Maybe German Shepard (?) mix that is like that. Smart sucker but willful as hell. Sweet, too (thank goodness). He is the first dog I've ever had that I actually wanted.


My ex had a Basenji once. He said she was the coolest dog. She didn't bark, but made singing noises. My husky makes really interesting sounds. She's very chatty. She is also sweet and willful as hell, I'm learning.
binky • Jul 14, 2009 1:31 am
Mine very rarely barks but does this great BAROOOO howl when he gets excited (as in going for a walk, his favorite thing to do)
sugarpop • Jul 15, 2009 2:15 am
Do you by any chance have a beagle? :D
busterb • Jul 20, 2009 10:04 pm
Sugarpop. I apologize for my cheap shot. Too much going on.
How about we agree to disagree
busterb • Jul 20, 2009 10:07 pm
I have some great stories and photos about the little shit, and maybe the Skunk. Stand by.
sugarpop • Jul 21, 2009 2:56 am
Thanks busterb. No problem. Apology accepted and much appreciated. :)

I now also have a border collie. He used to belong to my ex. He's the one in the picture I posted in the pet thread. :) Only now he's gained a bunch of weight, so I have to get him trim again. He's a great dog, very sweet and highly intelligent. I only wish I had some sheep for him to herd. :D
busterb • Jul 25, 2009 9:57 pm
Good part first. I hope.
HoBo has been missing since Wednesday night, but, I have a cop friend looking into it.
busterb • Jul 25, 2009 10:02 pm
One more
busterb • Dec 17, 2009 12:57 am
Since July, and Hobo has been gone.
Today I had a talk with the mayor and he sent the cheif of police around.
Who I had called twice a week and he never came.
Today He tried to tell me he had called & talked to me about this.
So I told him that since I've had troubles about my son's student loan, I started to record all phone calls. So you can wait. It'll take me about 2 hours on computer to re-call all the messages and find yours. Well the shoe didn't fit then. We'll see what happens now.
xoxoxoBruce • Dec 17, 2009 1:27 am
Fingers crossed. :fingerx:
busterb • Dec 19, 2009 7:56 pm
Nothing happened. Big bunch of BS when he came back. Said that the guy that talked to kids had moved on.
But I told him I need the names of kids. We'll see! I haven't forgotten about this.
Griff • Dec 20, 2009 8:13 am
Sorry busterb.
busterb • Dec 21, 2009 10:24 pm
Carried dog to vet today. No good news, but gave me some meds to try.
DanaC • Dec 22, 2009 4:35 am
Awww. Hope the meds help Buster.