CELEBRITY DEATH POOL 2009!!!
I was thinking that this year, as a way of raising money for the tip jar, and to have a bit of fun, we should all kick on some money for the celebrity death pool. Not a lot. Let's say $20.
I believe Lumberjim would be a good choice to hold the money, or even UT himself.
If we each kick in say $20 for the prize and half of it goes to the winner, with the other half going to the cellar. It would be kind of fun.
Please let me know if you're interested.
The rules would be as follows:
1. All players pick 10 celebrities they believe will die within the year 2009.
2. A celebrity is someone whose name is immediately recognized so if the person is a drummer in a band none of us have heard of, it doesn't count and neither does "uncle joe" unless your uncle Joe is Joe Lieberman or something like that. If there are questions on the celebrity status of a user's choice, a vote of all players will decide whether the person is really a celebrity. A tie goes to the runner....or in this case the player.
3. If someone on your list dies, you subtract their age from 100 and this is the number of points you get for that person's death.
4. Half of all prize money will go to the Cellar tip jar, and the other half will go to the winner. If there is a tie, half will go to the cellar tip jar, and the other half will be divided amongst the players who won.
5. All money must be paid and picks must be made no later than January 1, 2009 at midnight in Hawaii. This makes the game fair so people don't start joining the game when they find out a celebrity has a terminal illness or something.
6. Picking people who are on death row does not count.
What do you guys think? Do you want to make this game a bit more interesting?
No, thanks. I'll play the game, but not for money
yeah,...no munny.
And I won't hold anything I can't eat, pet or choke.
That's fine. You can make picks but not win money. I was just trying to come up with a way to make the game more fun, and to have a cool fund raiser for the Cellar.
Why don't "some people" just donate monthly, instead?
Where's the fun in that? Besides it's the most I'm personally willing to do. I might be willing to do more if he weren't grossly overspending for his bandwidth. I don't want to contribute to wasteful spending. It reminds me of paying taxes.
You certainly wouldn't know.
if stuff isn't fun unless you pay for it....
:lol:
1. William Shatner
2. Cloris Leachman
3. Mickey Rooney
4. Nancy Reagan
5. Amy Winehouse
6. Robert Redford
7. Sean Connery
8. Leonard Nimoy
9. Dick Van Dyke
10. Robert Duvall
I thought it was a nice idea, Radar...regardless of the fact that it became a source of bitching.
'Member this?
...I'm thinking it's only "in the spirit of the thing" if you don't make a song and dance about it.
True of anything, in my opinion. God some people are attention whores, or else money is a penis or sex substitute...not sure which.
I'm great. Look at me. Look at me. I'm wonderful.
Anyhoo...I will think about my list tonight...sounds like fun. It'd be easy to stick into a spreadsheet, if you're keeping track Radar. :) So, no money, but has a winner ever been decided in the past?
I don't get the whole idea of this death pool thing. It's really rather morbid to me. I don't like it. That's probably why I've never participated.
I thought the fundraising idea wasn't bad though although I would have suggested a lower amount. The SS limit was only $15 ffs. lol
UT...don't get upset about Radar being a dick. ;) You know he's always going to say something that resembles nice and then slam you when you least expect it (which is usually about one sentance later). It's just the kind of weirdo he is.
Heehee...great last paragraph, Ali!
You know, it is kind of morbid. What if I made a list, and every single one of them died, in order even? I'd be like the "wishing into the cornfield" kid. :lol:
It'd be 'The Secret' at work. lol
Just don't do it!!!
That's all I'm saying. ;)
eta: Unless there's someone you really do want to die.
Now that really is all I'm saying.
Nope, that's another lie. You all know I'm not going to shut up no matter how much you wish I would. :)
Eeek...there are some people I seriously don't like, but I don't wish even, say...Adam Sandler, dead.
Now if he's dead tomorrow...
Yeah, he gives me the willies too.
Anyway, this is starting to look like a conversation.
Pretty soon the 'chat police' will be here. lol
Quick, run! Hide! They might....bitch at us! lol
Heehee...great last paragraph, Ali!
You know, it is kind of morbid. What if I made a list, and every single one of them died, in order even?
I'd hire you immediately.
It is a bit morbid, but the reason I haven't gone in it is that I have little interest in celebrities and I have trouble thinking of ten famous people.
I'm really having a hard time making my picks this year. I have closer to 20 really good names, and I've got to narrow it down...
I failed horribly last year. Celebs should hire me to pick them. I even picked one of my faves just to make sure it wasn't a wish list......
I've only got 1 spot left on my roster, and I've got at least 7 people who would be good to fill it. I'm scared to put my entries in now because they don't count until the start of the year and one of them might die between now and then.
Prince Phillip
Margaret Thatcher
Dick Cheney
Amy Winehouse
Boy George
Patrick Swayze (aww :cry:)
...i have to get back to work, my other 4 to follow later
and for my bonus pick, some 19yo in Iraq who's wife gave birth to their first son on the moment he died.
Oh, and someone's mother on 9/11
pah, if mine die before then, I'm taking a free pass and adding a new one :D
Anybody have
Forrey Ackerman in his pool for 2008?
OK, think I'm ready:
Louie Anderson
Karl Malden
Olivia DeHavilland
Ted Kennedy
Hulk Hogan
Tara Reid
Oprah Winfrey
Walter Cronkite
Daniel Craig
Joan Rivers
Good call on Ted Kennedy. I was wondering whether to add him to my list.
I've got more than enough for 2 really good lists.
Ok, I'm going with the following list...
1. Abe Vigoda
2. Amy Winehouse
3. Billy Graham
4. Nancy Reagan
5. Kim Jong Il
6. Mickey Rooney
7. Kirk Douglas
8. Peter O'Toole
9. Fidel Castro
10. Andy Griffith
My secondary list (which doesn't count for the game, but which is still very strong is...
1. Fidel Castro
2. Jerry Lewis
3. Elizabeth Taylor
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Bob Barker
6. Ernest Borgnine
7. Sidney Poitier
8. Ted Kennedy
9. Peter Falk
10. Dick Clark
I'd have to go to the "dead/not dead" site...I had no idea a lot of those folks were still living. :lol:
ok thats it - I'm stealing radars secondary list!
1. Fidel Castro
2. Jerry Lewis
3. Elizabeth Taylor
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Bob Barker
6. Ernest Borgnine
7. Sidney Poitier
8. Ted Kennedy
9. Peter Faulk
10. Dick Clark
I'm in!
Man it would suck if you beat me with my own list.
I'm plannin on it! loser puts an extra $50 in the tip jar?
I think I'm going to have to let my 2008 list ride since I went 0 for 10.
1. Roger Moore
2. Brittany Spears
3. Dick Clark
4. Paris Hilton
5. Donald Trump
6. Barak Obama
7. Bill Clinton
8. Clint Eastwood
9. Keith Richards
10. Will Ferrell
I'm going to have to add Obama this year for the sheer points value.
C'mon!
John Mortimer
Fidel Castro
Margaret Thatcher
Patrick Moore
Norman Wisdom
Mickey Rooney
Clive Dunn
Bobby Robson
President Obama
Prince Philip
I'm plannin on it! loser puts an extra $50 in the tip jar?
I thought nobody wanted to kick any money into the pool?
This is just between you and I, since I stole your list.
Wow, that's tough. Put $50 that I can beat my secondary list with my primary list. Ok, I guess I'm down. Either way the cellar wins.
that was sorta the whole point.
Anyone else want part of this action?
sorry, i vowed to put all my money towards liquor, cigars, and hookers this winter.
I can't remember who said it, but I think it was either Pete Best or W.C. Fields that said, "I spent most of my money on women, booze, and gambling. But I wasted the rest of it."
Prince Phillip
Margaret Thatcher
Dick Cheney
Amy Winehouse
Boy George
Patrick Swayze
Elizabeth Taylor
Liz Dawn
Fidel Castro
Woody Allen
1. Barbra Streisand
2. Kenny McCormack
3. Matt Lauer
4. J.D. Salinger
5. Ernest Hollings
6. George Beverly Shea
7. Dolores Hope
8. Gloria Stuart
9. Karl Malden
10. Risë Stevens
Never heard of Risë Stevens, Gloria Stewart, George Beverly Shea, Ernest Holdings, or Kenny McCormack. Isn't the point of choosing celebrities, picking people that are well-known? Also, Delores Hope isn't a celebrity. She was just married to one.
So, you're telling me Bobford Alexander Dooflebag doesn't count?
Never heard of Risë Stevens, Gloria Stewart, George Beverly Shea, Ernest Holdings, or Kenny McCormack. Isn't the point of choosing celebrities, picking people that are well-known? Also, Delores Hope isn't a celebrity. She was just married to one.
yebbut you didn't know who Brianna was.....
1. Abe Vigoda
10. Andy Griffith
5. Bob Barker
6. Ernest Borgnine
who?
which one?
which one?
who?
don't tell me to google them until you've taken your own medicine....
who?
which one?
which one?
who?
don't tell me to google them until you've taken your own medicine....
Are you joking, or have you seriously never heard of these people?
So, you're telling me Bobford Alexander Dooflebag doesn't count?
Are we just making people up and adding them to Wikipedia? Are we naming funny sounding relatives?
Are you joking, or have you seriously never heard of these people?
backatcha, buddy. try this one and take it from there:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Stuart
Most deathpools use the rule that it has to be reported natoinally in the star's country of fame, not "known to the egotistical maniac who first started the thread that year". Just because you in your little backwater of california have not heard of someone doesn't make them not a celebrity. I'm quite impressed you've heard of all my picks, actually. :p
Never heard of Risë Stevens, Gloria Stewart, George Beverly Shea, Ernest Holdings, or Kenny McCormack. Isn't the point of choosing celebrities, picking people that are well-known? Also, Delores Hope isn't a celebrity. She was just married to one.
Just because a celebrity hasn't been on Oprah, doesn't mean they're not celebrities. Also, spouses sometimes become celebrities by virtue of their marriages, Hillary Clinton comes to mind as a person who wouldn't have gone anywhere without her husband bringing her along.
Sure looks like a hefty dose of research into E-list celebs can take all of the Fun out of the Death Pool.
[SIZE=1]it was so much fun before
it's spelled "McCormick" btw
you bastards
[/SIZE]
Uh-uh UT.
Don't you be callin me no bastard. [Looking for a talk to the hand smiley]
I admit, some of mine might not be known worldwide, but I am happy to be called on them (Clive Dunn, Norman Wisdom, Patrick Moore - all titled as far as I remember).
But I think it is reasonable to ask that the death of Death List members should be expected to be reported in the national press of the country of origin of the poster. Okay - that puts us Brits at an advantage in a way (as we'll have both ours and ours) but also at a disadvantage as we'll have less news of the health of some of yours when creating our lists.
I hope the matter will lie there. RIP.
Scoring!
Shawnee – Ted Kennedy, Walter Cronkite
Classicman – Ted Kennedy
Spudcon – Karl Malden
I had Malden too!
I'm winning?
:cheerldr:
Is Tara Reid still kickin'? I think I put her on there.
I had Malden too!
...
oops!:blush::dunce:
I just posted in the Celeb Deaths topic that I was saddened by Ted Kennedy's death. Then, I received an email from my Death Pool mod saying that he scored me 62.69 points.
http://muddbutt.com/viewpage.php?page_id=18
I'm a terrible human being (but I'm also in fifth place :D ).
Hillary Clinton comes to mind as a person who wouldn't have gone anywhere without her husband bringing her along.
Her husband comes to mind as a person who wouldn't have gone anywhere without Hillary Clinton bringing him along.
Fixed it for ya.
List is so wonderful!!! Good point... Amen Chris. "The greatest singer in the world" needs to experience "the most violent death in the world"............
:sniffs breeze:
Bad Mojo in this one. Zengum no like.
i may be drunk, but Zengum seems to be on the right path. i feel a ban coming on.
look at you guys sensing the spammer from 100 meters
We have spam antenna. Looks like windswept hair to the uninitiated. Also works at picking up alien signals.
Talented bunch, we.
shame we can't include the spammers on our lists really.....
None of that changes the fact that I'm winning. There is little time to go in the year. I have it in the bag!
Wait, what do I win again?
Wait, what do I win again?
A dead celebrity.
A particular one, or do I get to pick one?
you can have Jackson. they've buried all the rest
Rats. Foiled again!
Wasn't he supposed to do some kind of frozen thing, and come back later all alive and stuff?
Michele Bachman
Sarah Palin
Steven Anderson
Oh, that's my WISH list!
Aw, but (winky winky) you don't love the Palin? :(
...
Patrick Swayze (aww :cry:)
......
score
So Far this year...
Patrick Swayze = 43 points
Karl Malden = 3 points
Ted Kennedy = 23 points
Walter Cronkite = 8 points
Kenny McCormick = 0 points
Monster - 43 Points (Patrick Swayze)
Shawnee – 31 Points (Ted Kennedy & Walter Cronkite)
Classicman – 23 Points (Ted Kennedy... using my own list to beat me)
Spudcon – 3 Points (Karl Malden)
omg. I'm so sorry, Patrick......
:lol:
Classicman – 23 Points (using my own list to beat me)
lol - sorry bud.
So Far this year...
Patrick Swayze = 43 points
Karl Malden = 3 points
Ted Kennedy = 23 points
Walter Cronkite = 8 points
Kenny McCormick = 0 points
Monster - 43 Points (Patrick Swayze)
Shawnee – 31 Points (Ted Kennedy & Walter Cronkite)
Classicman – 23 Points (Ted Kennedy... using my own list to beat me)
Spudcon – 3 Points (Karl Malden)
'Scusi - I doubt it's many points, but I score with John Mortimer.
I put him on there to save him (it worked for The Thatch for after all) the least I can get is a few measly points for my loss.
Damn damn damn. :headshake
You know, the points system...I not like. You get beaucoup points for Swayze when he has had one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel for HOW LONG? [/competitivesoreloser]
Oh, and LOL at madman!
So Far this year...
Patrick Swayze = 43 points
Karl Malden = 3 points
Ted Kennedy = 23 points
Walter Cronkite = 8 points
Kenny McCormick = 0 points
Monster - 43 Points (Patrick Swayze)
Shawnee – 31 Points (Ted Kennedy & Walter Cronkite)
Classicman – 23 Points (Ted Kennedy... using my own list to beat me)
Spudcon – 3 Points (Karl Malden)
Shawnee had Malden, too.
Thanks Spexx. :)
:mad:
edit: so I predict THREE deaths and lose? I need another fatality from my list. What the hell is Tara Reid doing? Is she all fucking sober or something? That'd be my luck!
:lol:
You've not lost yet, chick.
You gotta gun?
Ok, revised year to date totals...
Patrick Swayze = 43 points
Karl Malden = 3 points
Ted Kennedy = 23 points
Walter Cronkite = 8 points
John Mortimer = 15 points
Kenny McCormick = 0 points (animated people don't count)
Monster - 43 Points (Patrick Swayze)
Shawnee – 34 Points (Ted Kennedy, Karl Malden & Walter Cronkite)
Classicman – 23 Points (Ted Kennedy... using my own list to beat me)
Sundae Girl - 15 Points (John Mortimer)
Spudcon – 3 Points (Karl Malden)
Oh come ON...look at that! With what weird logic am I not winning?
I'm declaring myself winner anyway. Hmmph.
Just kiddin'. Kinda. Yeah, I'm a bit competitive...what of it? ;)
Well it IS bullshit. I don't care how you slice it.
Sigh, Shawnee. This is how it works.
You choose people who are going to die.
You take more of a chance if your choose young people, but you get more points if they die. However there is a tendency for older people to die sooner, you just don't get as many points.
There is no "logic", there is no "fair", death is random.
Taking a weapon out on the streets is the only way you can hope to have any impact on your position on the list. Or a putative knowledge of healthcare.
That is what Monster has done after all.
Or at least that's what I assumed when I got a text message from her saying, "That's for Chappaquiddick you arsehole!"
I hope that makes things clear.
You don't take a chance if you know they have terminal cancer and they're like, 41 years old.
That's OK, I still think Tara will pull through for me.
Thanks for the 'splanation: I get it, I just think the fact I predicted 3 deaths is pretty impressive! Yeah they were old...but with the exception of Teddy there was no news story of their impending death.
But I wouldn't begrudge the mon anything! I love the monster! :)
Thanks for the 'splanation: I get it, I just think the fact I predicted 3 deaths is pretty impressive!
I know you know the rules, babba. I was laying it on thick for my own amusement.
Me, I'm gutted that the first year I get a single hit, I'm
still coming in last of the scoring Dwellars! AND I had to lose a hero in order to do so! So, I sympathise almost completely. Not totally of course, because I still won't bloody catch you.
I love Monnie too, but what say we off her anyway?
Shaw, you win in the "most deaths predicted correct" category, Its kinda like winning best supporting actress.
I know you know the rules, babba. I was laying it on thick for my own amusement.
Me, I'm gutted that the first year I get a single hit, I'm still coming in last of the scoring Dwellars! AND I had to lose a hero in order to do so! So, I sympathise almost completely. Not totally of course, because I still won't bloody catch you.
I love Monnie too, but what say we off her anyway?
Wait, let me add her to my list. :bolt:
Shaw, you win ion the most deaths right category, Its kinda like winning best supporting actress.
Apparently, less is more. :D
Damn, I forgot about offering a made-up prize to an obvious fruitloop... Yeah, they did to to Michael Jackson, didn't they?
Did I say that out loud?
'Scuse me, just go to go and deadlock the door...
;)
I'm impressed with your mad death predicting skillz Shawnee! You go, girl!
I am impressive like that! I got the impresses goin' on! :)
Oh come ON...look at that! With what weird logic am I not winning?
I'm declaring myself winner anyway. Hmmph.
Just kiddin'. Kinda. Yeah, I'm a bit competitive...what of it? ;)
That's why the game is tough. When you go for older people, you have a better chance, but if you get lucky and pick someone young, you jump to the head of the class.
I'm glad to see Robert Downey Jr. has his shit together now. He was on my list for awhile.
That's why the game is tough. When you go for older people, you have a better chance, but if you get lucky and pick someone young, you jump to the head of the class.
I'm glad to see Robert Downey Jr. has his shit together now. He was on my list for awhile.
You have an even better chance if you pick someone with terminal cancer about whom the headlines once blared
SWAYZE DEAD IN FIVE WEEKS. Duh...that's my point.
It's your scoring system, I am just pointing out it's not flawless, so quit act like I'm not winning. ;)
yeah but that five weeks was in 2008! you figure if they kast 20 months, they must have it beat, right? :lol:
Anyway shawnee, stop going all Kanye West on me or I'll have to start photoshopping images of you......
Imma let you finish, but I had the best death count of the YEAR!
Bwaahahahahaaaaaaa
oh, I have my photoeditor open and two pics in there awaiting my attention....
is there anyway I can squeeze Kanye into my list? I reckon some redneck's bound to do him in after he hurt their country music princess ;lol:
oh, I have my photoeditor open and two pics in there awaiting my attention....
Ruh roh :eek:
I'm truly sorry, from the bottom of my heart. :p
You have an even better chance if you pick someone with terminal cancer about whom the headlines once blared SWAYZE DEAD IN FIVE WEEKS. Duh...that's my point.
It's your scoring system, I am just pointing out it's not flawless, so quit act like I'm not winning. ;)
I agree. Those who are widely known publicly to be terminally ill shouldn't count. I mean those who are in death row don't count. But I don't know if Patrick Swayze's cancer was widely known about in January.
You have an even better chance if you pick someone with terminal cancer about whom the headlines once blared SWAYZE DEAD IN FIVE WEEKS. Duh...that's my point.
It's your scoring system, I am just pointing out it's not flawless, so quit act like I'm not winning. ;)
That doesn't always work out. Ariel Sharon is still alive, the bastard. I think I had him on my lists in 2007 AND 2008!
Yeah, I had Magic Johnson on my list...when he first got aids. About 50 years ago. :eek:
:lol:
and fidel castro is hanging in there too..... fucking miracles of medicine :lol:
Kim Jong Il won't die dammit!
Has John Madden Carked it yet? cuz, you know he's either gonna die before the end of this football season, or he'll live to be 104
Ok, revised year to date totals...
Patrick Swayze = 43 points
Karl Malden = 3 points
Ted Kennedy = 23 points
Walter Cronkite = 8 points
John Mortimer = 15 points
Kenny McCormick = 0 points (animated people don't count)
Monster - 43 Points (Patrick Swayze)
Shawnee – 34 Points (Ted Kennedy, Karl Malden & Walter Cronkite)
Classicman – 23 Points (Ted Kennedy... using my own list to beat me)
Sundae Girl - 15 Points (John Mortimer)
Spudcon – 3 Points (Karl Malden)
Alternate scoring system: instead of adding points, multiply them, thus giving a big return for those who get multiple deaths.
Shawnee 552 – Points
(Ted Kennedy (23), Karl Malden (3) & Walter Cronkite (8)) 23 x 3 x 8 = 552
Monster - 43 Points
(Patrick Swayze)
Classicman – 23 Points
(Ted Kennedy)
Sundae Girl - 15 Points
(John Mortimer)
Spudcon – 3 Points
(Karl Malden)or add them then multiply by the number of hits: Shawnee would be on 102....
would have 0 points under any of the scoring schemes because he didn't submit a list
Meh - if he was going to implode he'd have done it by now.
He's just got better at not picking up policemen on the Heath...
Is it time for the 2010 pool?
I'm guessing no one got Brittany Murphy?
Is it time for the 2010 pool?
Actually yes, it's time to start formulating your lists. They should be in by New Years Day.
fuck. she was a cute kid.
I never thought much of her as an actress until recently when I saw a movie called "Ramen Girl" and she did a pretty good job as the protagonist.
I'm guessing no one got Brittany Murphy?
Oh fuck. I really liked her. I'll never forget her creepy character in Girl, Interrupted. :(
I remember her best from Sin City.
ok thats it - I'm stealing radars secondary list!
Man it would suck if you beat me with my own list.
Ok, I guess I'm down. Either way the cellar wins.
Whats the deal? Who won. . . err lost. . . err who puts the $50 in?
That would be me, but I'll need a bit of time since money is tight without a job for the last 11 months.
we'll take $5 -when you can afford it..... $50 is a lot, even when everything is back on track. Well that MHO.
Don't sweat it Radar. I was bustin' your chops more than anything.
but cellar not run on air.....
IIRC radar doesn't believe in contributing anyway. I think thats partly why I made the bet in the first place. Whatever - to each his own.
I do believe in contributing, I just prefer to contribute when I know the money is being spent efficiently. For instance before I donate to a charity, I check them out at
http://www.charitynavigator.org to see how much of the money they collect goes toward overhead costs, and how much gets to the people who need it.
After speaking to Tony, I was convinced that he could host this site with an equal amount of bandwidth or more for a lot less than he is paying because he chooses to host it at his house rather than having it on a virtual server at a major hosting company or even a dedicated server.
For instance here's a site that offers unlimited bandwidth, unlimited sites, and unlimited disk storage for $8/month. Even if you go with a dedicated server of your own, their most expensive package is less money than what Tony is paying.
http://www.hostgator.comWhuddever, y'all.
The point remains, I rule at death prediction.
The servers aren't at my house. They're in a half-rack in a private cage at a quality colocation facility an hour away. One server runs the site, the other runs the database. Bandwidth used is... let us just say surprisingly high. To operate this setup at Hostgator would require 2 X "basic" package at a price of $174 each, a total of $348 per month, or $148 more than it currently costs for colo and bandwidth.
It is, of course, always a simple matter to price out the flavor of the month. It's entirely another matter to run one of the net's oldest communities for two decades. The Cellar started probably some 15 years before something called "Hostgator" was dreamt up, and believe me, the Cellar will outlive the business plans of 99.99% of Internet hosting operators. It does so because of my careful and considered decisions about how best to make it happen.
These decisions, by the way, are not so much up for discussion. I don't care to hear how you think you could run a system like this on "unlimited" plans for $8 a month. If you want to try it, go ahead. Start your own. Have a ball. Put it on a virtual server. Knock yourself the fuck out.
godradarisadouche
heisactuallycringeworthyinhishubris-ugh.
Radar, I am shocked.
Edited because Classic has been through this already.
I just hope you are 100% happy with every single cent you spend, in every single store.
You are a hypocrite if not.
OMG - lets not rehash all this please - I was bustin his chops on a year old bet borne from virtually this same discussion.
It's just pars and courses and status quos.
The servers aren't at my house. They're in a half-rack in a private cage at a quality colocation facility an hour away. One server runs the site, the other runs the database. Bandwidth used is... let us just say surprisingly high. To operate this setup at Hostgator would require 2 X "basic" package at a price of $174 each, a total of $348 per month, or $148 more than it currently costs for colo and bandwidth.
It is, of course, always a simple matter to price out the flavor of the month. It's entirely another matter to run one of the net's oldest communities for two decades. The Cellar started probably some 15 years before something called "Hostgator" was dreamt up, and believe me, the Cellar will outlive the business plans of 99.99% of Internet hosting operators. It does so because of my careful and considered decisions about how best to make it happen.
These decisions, by the way, are not so much up for discussion. I don't care to hear how you think you could run a system like this on "unlimited" plans for $8 a month. If you want to try it, go ahead. Start your own. Have a ball. Put it on a virtual server. Knock yourself the fuck out.
Except you don't need two servers because you can run the database and site on the same machine if it's beefy enough which those at hostgator, or any of the dozens of other hosting companies are offering. In fact you don't even need 1 fully dedicated server to run the cellar because they're offering unlimited bandwidth, storage, and even sites for $8/month.
What it really means is every dollar you spend over and above $8/month is a dollar wasted. As far as the cellar outlasting hosting companies, I highly doubt it. It's extremely rare that any hosting company goes away. They are merely swallowed up by larger ones.
But even if this is your argument it has no merit because Amazon EC2 will allow you to setup a server in minutes on a GIGANTIC server farm with guaranteed uptime, with auto backups, upgrades, etc. and it would still cost a fraction of what you're paying.
http://aws.amazon.com/ec2
Do you really think the cellar is going to outlast Amazon?
But as others say, this argument is old.
And Brianna you can go fuck yourself. This is an IT discussion and I know at LEAST as much as Tony does if not a lot more on the subject and have as much or more experience in the field. This isn't hubris, it's just a fact.
It's not a discussion. Again, if you want to start your own, go for it. Final word.
I know at LEAST as much as Tony does if not a lot more on the subject and have as much or more experience in the field. This isn't hubris, it's just a fact.
...and yet you're still unemployed. it's a strange world, innit?
yeah, I know... go fuck myself :lol:
My employment status has nothing to do with my skill and everything to do with there being no IT jobs where I live. I've been getting calls from people in Los Angeles who recognize my skill and experience to come back to work for them and I've been weighing the decision to return to Los Angeles carefully.
I have strong business contacts out there, but I really don't want to raise my daughter there. I believe Tony had his own stint being unemployed too. That's the nature of the IT business.
It's not a discussion. Again, if you want to start your own, go for it. Final word.
I've never disputed that this is your site Tony. Of course you can run it any way you like. You could run it just as well for less money, and I just have a hard time doing the math on why you wouldn't. It would be a lot less stressful to worry about coming up with the money every month if the bill were cheaper, and the donations you get would last a lot longer.
Clearly you've got some personal reason for wanting to spend more money and have the server where you can touch it because there is no technological reason you couldn't run it on a virtual server elsewhere just as fast and stable and secure for a lot less money.
As for me, I'll come up with the $50 to honor my bet with classicman in the next couple of weeks so you can put it toward your bills.
Monster - 43 Points (Patrick Swayze)
Shawnee - 34 Points (Ted Kennedy (23), Karl Malden (3) & Walter Cronkite (8))
Classicman – 23 Points (Ted Kennedy)
Sundae Girl - 15 Points (John Mortimer)
Spudcon – 3 Points (Karl Malden)
Hey, wait! I didn't get points for Bobby Robson! He died aged 76, so I get another 24.
I thank you.
Gets me a silver at least.
I never heard of him, but after a little research it seems that you are correct, which puts you in second place barring the death of anyone else on the list in the next 2 days.
Monster - 43 Points (Patrick Swayze)
Sundae Girl - 39 Points (John Mortimer & Bobby Robson)
Shawnee - 34 Points (Ted Kennedy (23), Karl Malden (3) & Walter Cronkite (8))
Classicman – 23 Points (Ted Kennedy)
Spudcon – 3 Points (Karl Malden)
It seems as though Monster kicked all of our butts by picking someone young. I'm wondering if I should change my strategy and pick 10 young people who live dangerously (Olsen Twins, Artie Lang, etc.) and hope I catch just 1 of them.
I've been going with the "so old they have one foot in the grave" method and it hasn't been paying off for me.
I got three dead people, man.
I know. That's why I'm saying a young person strategy might be better. You're batting 300 which is good enough for the majors.
I picked young people who didn't happen to die. Most pick young AND old.
I think 3 dead people to only one person having two dead people and then only one dead person is pretty good, especially since Swayze had admitted to a cancer with a bad prognosis...leveled the playing field.
Oh well, there's still time for Tara Reid to kick it.
Anyone who had Heath Ledger or Brittany Murphy would have won big this year. You'd get 139 points for both.
True. Who woulda thunk?
Those are always the surprising and sad ones.
But even if this is your argument it has no merit because Amazon EC2 will allow you to setup a server in minutes on a GIGANTIC server farm with guaranteed uptime, with auto backups, upgrades, etc. and it would still cost a fraction of what you're paying.
http://aws.amazon.com/ec2
Do you really think the cellar is going to outlast Amazon?
I never answered Radar's question because he was being a gigantic dick. The answer was yes, yes, yes! I believe that the Cellar is going to outlast Amazon. That's exactly what I thought at the time of posting and I still believe it today.
Especially today!
Yesterday Amazon's EC2 suffered a massive, massive failure which brought down many of the net's biggest websites. Affected for going on 24 hours are Reddit, Foursquare, Quora and many, many more sites and services.
Now, because their service level guarantee of 99.995% uptime was not met, these websites can demand a refund from their next Amazon bill...
a refund of 10%.
Able to do no business for an entire day and counting, and they get 10% off.
Speaking of which, was there a cellar outage yesterday? I was just wiping the last tears of laughter from my eyes when all connectivity to the cellar failed. I tried the TRACERT command and it got to what I know is the penultimate step (ptr.us.xo.net ) and declared "destination net unreachable". I was quite irritated.
This happens sometimes but yesterday was particularly annoying. Usually the break occurs earlier, somewhere between Sydney and LA.
Okay it just happened again immediately after I posted that. WTF?
At least it is working again now. So, what's the latest batch of crazy?
everything cool on this end